Kill 4chan cucks Simple as

>>58560 Staying here. I can't deal with the abhorrent spam on cuckchan anymore.

I wish it was faster here. I just wish the entirety of the non-faggot population of /a/ went to the same place. I don't want to go back. I held off this time but will I next time? I don't know.

>>58560 I'm gonna stay here and use 4chan for other boards that didn't migrate well unless they improve things which it seems like they won't I'll just keep flip flopping between the two.

>>58560 I'm probably still staying the weekend at least, then I'll check how things are. If this is the end, I just want to thank this place for the best consistent posting experience I've had in a long time. I wish 8anons all the best for the future. *snuggles closer to 8anons and spoons them*

IP range block for now. I guess I'll wait for a week to see if they've fixed things enough.

>>58560 Nothing fucking changed, I'm staying here. The site is just inferior compared to 8chan

I keep 8chan open

>>58560 Staying for the reasons you've given I fucking hate 4chans captcha shit rangeban shit, cooldown shit. It's garbage fuck 4chan it should just stay dead.

>>58560 There's no real reason to leave here. The posting experience is better, there's less spam, bots and trolls, and the ones in charge are more responsive. I highly doubt anything on halfchan's backend changed.

>>58620 Something changes it looks like they increased the cooldown to 120 seconds instead of 60.

>>58621 I will now never return.

80% of /a/ is just imagedump storytimes which are effectively generals. It's more of a discord than this place without IDs while encouraging poojeets to run rampant.

>>58621 They did lmao

>>58615 Only retarded spammers hate those things

>>58633 Also enjoy the new indian jannies

>>58645 I hope this is a troll

>giving up thread ids, multi image posting, slow comfy discussion The only reason I haven't taken the plunge into 8chan indefinitely is that I religiously browse so this is my only social interaction and more (You)s the better and also Chance doesn't let me post from the app

>>58621 The reason is that this board will probably slow down to a crawl again. Everyone ultimately gravitates toward the most popular location.

>>58560 i'm one of the people cucked by ISPs to visit here via tor, but i still like the general experience and tech stack here better. i'll give 8 at least a week from me even if half returns in full.

I still don't understand how 4chan images load faster than the ones here even for similar file sizes. Isn't the server supposed to be really outdated there?

>>58664 4chan has a much lower image limit compared to here (4 MB)

>>58664 throughput of a cdn is not the same as up to dateness.

>he thinks hiring pajeets is a troll Yeah, all those big international companies are trolling by hiring pajeets, like microsoft or boeing

I will keep 8chan open and continue to use it as much as possible, however, I will still watch certain shows on /a/ for stitches and good webms.

>>58560 Looks like I'm stuck here because it just broke again lel. Seriously though, I'll keep coming back here every so often from now on, I never gave any altchans a chance before now, but I owe them some consideration for their hospitality at the very least.

>>58653 Before it went down all of 4/a/'s population was concentrated in not-generals where nothing happens. Then you had manga dumps, which were nice in a way, but I wanted that form of discussion in regular threads. Said regular threads died early because of the number of not-generals drowning them out. Jannies would find reasons to ban you if you pissed them off and that ban was always global. The topic of loli is outright forbidden. All characters who happen to be loli have a 30/60 chance to getting their thread 404'd. Asked why the mods said it was p*doshit. On fucking /a/. How can you expect to discuss anime when the mods are more at home on resetera?

>>58705 halfchan needs an /ag/ and you know it. they made no less than 6 /v/ offshoots.

>board owner invests their own hard-earned money into new hardware >everyone leaves

>>58767 They'll be back when halfchan shits itself again in the next week.

>>58767 It wasn't enough lol

>>58560 I'm not leaving, I have never really left. Whenever I remember I have to make soundless 3MB webms for *chan I understand that insecure dogshit website isn't worth caring about

>>58781 i was already comfy, but polish ips, and now the german gov all decided this board is more dangerous than halfchan and hard blocked it. you could blame acid for choosing hosts wrong, but the players involved are honestly huge, he would have had to have as much experience as sadpanda hosters to avoid all potential attack vectos. then again, most users can access .moe so they don't feel this.

>>58799 BLOAT

>>58800 So far I'm still just chilling from krautistan.

i'll stay here as long as it remains relatively active. i hate current 4cuck

>>58560 8chan won me over by being pro-loli

>>58560 I'll at least keep an eye, though not for long if TOR remains the only option for me. I genuinely like it here, but this place will realistically mostly become the abode of those banned from 4 chan looking for their fix. I can testify that their moderation is not perfect, but it's still probably bad news.

>>58560 I'd rather we didn't go back but this site as a whole was done for as soon as the moderation went full control freak you are trying to steal users for the most popular imageboard, you are already in a disadvantaged position, you want to please the users as much as possible instead of giving them reasons to go back also the shitty servers likely played a huge part, this site evidently wasn't ready for the 4chan flood nor reactive enough to fix shit quickly

>>58904 I take threads off the overboard and reply to the ones that sound interesting despite board culture so I might be a problem, but I can assure you anyone who gets banned from cuckchan and doesn't feel like relying on any of the usual evasion methods but prefers to go somewhere else is worth their posts in internet gold. a real problem with 4chan moderation is how it strikes firsts and asks questions later, does not tolerate anything ever so slightly transgressive and cannot understand context. it seeks to artificially create culture, and like any other social media site with similar ambitions you end with milquetoast garbage on the whole spectrum between shitpost and effort. you should only browse through tor, by the way. at least if you live in a country where ISPs go out of their way to ban sites like 8moe.

>It's only a 120 second timer now based but it's still worse than here.

>>58904 >>58928 The overboard has been a game changer for me. I can be on every board at once.

>>58932 Way worse.

>>58935 what's the overboard?

>>58645 This screencap is fake but jeet jannies have already been a thing for a couple of years so it might as well be true

>>58940 It's that circle icon in the top left between the board list and the briefcase (which is the sfw overboard)

I love 8chan.

I'm staying. >>58592 >I wish it was faster here. Now realize how much of 4chan's speed might've been due to people just spamming threads. I think the speed is almost fine, if that means I can discuss stuff in peace.

>faster You mean higher volume of low-effort posts?

>>58963 That and you have to bump threads with menial pointless fluff posts to keep them alive.

>>58985 This, it's honestly nice not having to worry about if your thread for your niche anime is gonna die in an hour

The cloudflare thing just loops for me, the only time it wasn't broken was Jan/Feb this year

I can't even post because I get "Bad Gateway" whenever I load the captcha

>>59006 Have you tried calling your gateway a Good Boy?

>>58928 >you should only browse through tor, by the way. too much hassle. balancing several browsers is a lot more annoying than several tabs. >at least if you live in a country where ISPs go out of their way to ban sites like 8moe. I deduced that it's 8chan who were geo-blocking my country, but their explanations in the meta-thread were lacking, or i'm just retarded. either way it's clearly not direct ISP block >>58935 the what now?

>>59056 The little circle in boards bar it shows you newest posts from threads on every board

>>58645 >from india omegalul

Is 4chan.gay also gone now? Then I guess I won't be able to post on halfchan anymore anyway. Thanks Hiroshima for rangebanning everything and everyone.

>check 4chan >same dumb generals and dailies spammed everywhere >same retards shamelessly replying to threads 10+ times the second they make them off of their 30 second pass timer >just a massive treadmill of shitty threads, threads flying off the catalogue so fast that the some threads have been remade 3 times already The thought of going back there makes me genuinely stressed. I don't think I can do it. Where can I go to just discuss things with people and not feel roped into some retarded twitter-adjacent rat race of disengenous attention whoring?

>>59073 I'm here, anon. What would like to discuss?

the funniest part of a slow board so far is that my watcher is filled with threads that probably will never get a reply and will die like 2 years from now, so it takes the entire page when unfolded even after i removed the padding through custom css

>>59075 Usogui

>>59073 We're with you, anon.

>>59068 no idea what the use case is here, i don't really care about any other board, and even someone who browses a few is better off relying on watcher+multiple tabs

>>59077 >Baku Madarame (斑目 貘, Madarame Baku known as The Lie Eater (Usogui), is a master gambler who thrives on high-stakes games against ruthless and maniacal opponents. Alongside his loyal protege Takaomi Kaji (梶 隆臣, Kaji Takaomi) and his formidable bodyguard Marco (マルコ, Maruko), Baku sets his sights on taking control of Kakerou (賭郎), an underground gambling organization that oversees life-threatening wagers. Haven't read but it sounds pretty cool!

>>59077 Great manga that I need to reread. Are you reading Sako's new manga? I'm liking Genikasuri so far but everything seems like it's moving fast, it feels like it's gonna be shorter than Batuque.

>>59073 why care? i always took for granted that vast majority of threads alive at any given moment is some nonsense i don't care for. same is here, just cleaner and slower. in both cases I just skim through the first few pages or ctrl+f when looking for something specific

I'd rather stay here where I can post with my VPN on. Shame everyone will run away.

>>59085 >Are you reading Sako's new manga I'm like 4 chapters behind but the artwork is pretty insane and I like the premise, so I'll likely catch up immediately after I'm done with Usogui, which will be very soon. I'm hesitant to even make any assumptions about what a Sako manga will ultimately be like.

>>58560 I didn't get the 15 minute timer this time but >no IP counter >/pol/ and /lgbt/ still exists >mods will go full retard by Monday and all the twitter menheras will be back

>>58560 You just posted Taiga dressed as Megumin and now you dare asking me if i want to leave? Sure you jest.

>>59126 >checks a thread 278124490 >the usual shitposters >gets archived when I refresh the tab Maybe earlier

>>58560 i'll use both

I'm sorry bros but I'm back to 4chan. The critical mass of users just makes it so much easier to talk about more niche series. I'll keep a tab open for the 8chan catalog though.

>>59150 I do love loli theads here however it has to be aaid.

>>59150 >more niche series enjoy your generals

>>59186 Meh. Altchans are so slow that they might as well just be generals here too except they won't even get pruned off the board fast enough because the site is too slow.

>>59150 >I'm sorry bros but I'm back to 4chan. The critical mass of users just makes it so much easier to talk about more niche series. I mean I'll post there but I don't see going back permanently anymore.

>>59150 >1pbtid HMMM.

>>58560 >looking at a Ninkoro thread on 4/a/ >it's much faster than here but the post quality is so low that it might as well be one bot replying to itself over and over Finding out that image boards don't have to be shit really was a mistake.

>>58560 I'm going to keep posting here, I may have 4cuck up in the background for the things that can't be replaced (This site hasn't had a functional automotive board in years) but I think I'm kind of hooked on the better software and every board being effectively a red board.

I would be sad if you guys left

>>58645 This isn't real btw Well, the actual post is real but it's not a moderator/admin or anybody affiliated with 4chan. It's just an IRC rat saying shit and making a joke.

>>58560 4chan /a/ was my main board for close to 10 years, I rarely went there after 2018/19. I went there last year and saw actual paid marketing for Gook Leveling and never went back. 4chan can stay dead for all I care. The hack just confirmed what we all suspected. Honeypot, trannymods and turd world jannies.

>>58560 I was hoping 4channel.edu would stay in deadnigger storage longer honestly. I'll stick to mostly posting here now that the soyraids have given new life to a bulk of this website. I keep getting B&'d from /k/ and /a/ for to much fun posting anyway. Have a cold one OP

>>59150 This place ruined me I never realized how much of nothing gets said on 4/a/. The new font there also hurts my eyes to look at long term

>>59241 I am kind of glad 4chan came back up. I hope that this community develops into a more condensed fun place. I was also getting worried about the amount of normalfags posting about 8ch

kek they auto flag 8chan as spam now

>>59270 Normalfags get bored too fast to leave 4chan.

>>58560 Why abandon an objectively superior imageboard just to perpetuate a long-abused monopoly on board vibrancy? 8ch deserves more traffic, and 4ch needs serious reform. To those ends, the Internet needs us Here. Let's stay.

>Go back for a second because I wanted to see the Official Art thread in 4/e/ >Mod moved it to a board called /test/ >Need a mod login to get into /test/ Thanks mods, now I don't have any reason to go back to that shithole.

>>59270 >I am kind of glad 4chan came back up. Well I'm not glad, 4Chan.gov's death was a genuine improvement especially after confirming for sure what was long suspected who the Janny's where.

As long as the anti-ID niggers leave, I'm staying here. no loli, no life

>>58560 Probably a mix of both as I figure out hw things will go. There isn't much point in being the only person who stays here if everyone leaves despite how much more freedom you have over here.

>>59150 Same, but for me the worst part is how fucking slow this site is. What's the value of multiple images (which I don't like either) when each one takes over a minute to load? It's like I'm back on dialup.

>>59301 Didn't they actually fuck up so hard that literally anyone could move any thread for a while?

>>59301 When 4cuck came back, some sharty niggers exploited a bug that allowed you to move whatever thread you wanted to whatever board and the site didnt check to verify if you were a moderator before allowing you to do so. So a ton of threads on /a/ were getting moved to /g/ and a bunch of /lgbt/ posts were being moved everywhere.

>>59304 ids weren't even reliable. this post will be my third itt

>>59150 >The critical mass of users <samefags and bots

>>59211 >it might as well be one bot replying to itself over and over The secret is that it is, or "humans" that are no better than bots

>making fun of the jannies is now an enforced bannable offense >bringing up anything regarding the hack gets you instanuked Wow, what is this bullshit

>>59317 Give it up to cuckchan to get the "Worst reopening of a website" achievement. YTMND somehow did it far better.

>>58560 >go back to 15min lockouts, no soundposts, a putrid janny team that doesn't do their jobs, and an admin that literally gives 0 fucks about his website outside of the passive income it generates you'd have to be insane for that

>>59333 Checked and it's literally 4reddit. Anyone who supports it and wants to go back are retards.

>>58560 After the dopamine reset, I don't care about fast or slow responses anymore >>59333 literally cucked website

>>59333 I knew those freaks would just double down. Hopefully they get hacked again.

>>58560 I can be on both. I do like 8chan more though.

>>59333 Why are they sensitive? What legitimate reason is there to censor criticism? People are going to be addicted to the slavebox no matter what anyone says on there.

They all got doxed so they all have trauma, you cant be mean to them they are really going through hard times and they it might be insensitive/offensive to make jokes about the jannies, plz understand.

>>59403 if they took in new jannies maybe they want them to feel happy, like with voters in politics

>>59373 >I knew those freaks would just double down. Hopefully they get hacked again. Praying for that outcome right now, please let it become a common recurrence.

A key thing is that I prefer altchans because 4chan exists. 4chan is the first line of defense essentially, and the only people who get to the altchans are those in some way sick of 4chan (of course, this leads to the 'website for banned users' issue thats been talked about for decades now, but that's neither here no there). The big issue post-2019 though was that 8chan's death caused people to just leave entirely or go back to 4chan. I'm hoping these ten days of no 4chan do cause a semi-revival of at least this 8chan to bring the site back to the state the original one was in from 2016-2019. Will that actually happen? I doubt it. Maybe if another 4chan vulnerability is discovered and the site goes offline again for a similar extended period of time, but I doubt that will occur. I will stick around, but I dunno. Prior to this event I remember checking this /a/ every few months and seeing it be pretty dead- I had written off this 8chan entirely as "Mark's playground", just for /v/ermin and diaper fetishists.

If the performance is fixed I and probably most others will stay here. There will be a lot of low-IQs attracted to the appearance of traffic generated by the shill farms but good riddance. HOWEVER don’t think that this site will be some kind of renascence — the shill farms will hit these boards which don’t have even basic precautions against them. They are are going to gobble up site resources like crazy for the same ultra low-quality trash content 4chan was known for. Yes Israel got range-banned, but that’s something a shill farm can get around if they need to, and there’s PLENTY of regions shills operate out of. Site quality will plummet and it’ll just be 4chan except with some extra features and worse performance.

owari da

>>58560 I can't stand that place anymore.

>>59403 power tripping

What's with all this kvetching and pretend superiority? Just use both. I have three catalogs open of different /a/ boards.

>>59446 This. It's free anyway, and if something happens everyone knows where the alternatives are noe.

>>59446 Me, I don't get the point of imageboards without Tor. But I need to taper off my use, anyways. I think people just fear a monopoly.

>>59455 my lord, your people are starved for (You)s. what one would want is activity, but also a removal of the worst of shills and menheras. so like we had around the time IDs hit.

>>59318 The ID hoppers will leave.

>>59403 >Why are they sensitive? What legitimate reason is there to censor criticism? Have you paid attention when the Board Volunteer/Owner said repeatedly that meta threads are now the most active threads on 8/a/, and keeping up with them has taken over his life to the point that he's desperate for new volunteers? Did you ever think that it might be the same way on other boards when meta discussions are opened up? Considering that every meta thread here has turned into a shit-flinging, low IQ free-for-all of people repeating the same arguments over and over, not making any progress whatsoever....

>>59333 >making fun of the jannies is now an enforced bannable offense

>>59333 >making fun of the jannies is now an enforced bannable offense >bringing up anything regarding the hack gets you instanuked I know people like 4chan a lot, with it being part of their lives (me too, i've been there daily since 2009), but come on now.

BTW it looks like 4chan is back up, more or less, hitch is why performance is so decent tonight here. As I predicted people dumped this site the MOMENT they didn’t have to deal with the lag any longer. 8chan missed it’s window of opportunity, the owner should have immediately put it on a higher bandwidth when it became clear 4chan could be gone for an extended period of time. As is usually the case with humans we tend to take action too late at critical junctures. I wonder if it’s an official psychological problem.

>>59496 There was basically no way to know how long it was going to be down. I saw people speculating everywhere from a few days to multiple months. And without knowing that there was no way to know when, if at all, it would be sensible to start upgrading this site to accommodate so many more users.

>>58560 I will post on here as long as I get replies and see other people's interesting threads pop up regularly enough. 4chan's shitty moderation really turned me off for a long time and it'll be a bitter pill to swallow going back now.

Looking back at halfchan right now you can really see what's the problem was and still. Though there's still some merit in it like the traffic is fast enough that one-off thread like announcement or major news can be made without worrying about clogging the catalog.

>>59536 while this place keeps you with no incentive to necrobump like a monkey, because every the thread was safe for a week with even 0 bumps. you never even think of booting up the monkey brain to find something to post.

>>59293 They've done that since Q Anon.

>>59536 Auto-pruning threads that are over a certain age limit that aren't planned generals would probably be good for making the site look less like a graveyard. Better to have a small catalog than one that is full of threads from 2 years ago with 30 replies.

>>59566 *since gamergate

It really depends on how active 8chan remains after this. The threads I have open now had pretty much stopped updating, everyone went back to 4chan. I'll keep both sites open, but in the end it doesn't matter how comfy this place is if there's no one to talk to.

>>59293 I've noticed there are clever ways around that like just typing it as '8ch' and I recall getting away with it by saying things like '8cake' and '8cripple' in the past too. Maybe I'll make some shill images for this site that some brave anons can spread on 4cuck before I head to bed. Gonna go make myself some tea first though. Example... >https://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/63602807#p63603632

4*2chan I call it

>>59574 Use code word anontalk and they'll come straight here.

Just call it infinitychan.

2^3chan

>>59574 what song is that?

>>59293 First exodus?

>>58560 I left 4chan months ago, when they implemented the timer. There are other image boards out there to enjoy. 4chan either reforms to be more user-friendly or dies. It no longer holds a monopoly.

>>59610 >muh timer How fucking stupid are you people? Seriously. The fucking timer only applies when you change your IP and delete your cookies like a menhera. If you're posting on desktop, it will pop up once a year, if that.

>>59611 How fucking stupid are YOU? Not to use private windows or auto-clear you session when you close the browser? I can guess what kind of industry you work in, faggot. You slimy cockroach.

>>59616 >clearing anything at your home rig, when you just browse episode threads as you watch.

>>59616 Do you use computers at your university library to browse 4chan? Fucktard. Absolutely no reason to clear your cookies.

>>58560 ngl i think i'm done with 4/a/ and 4/v/ except for one general i can't tolerate the menheras and the shills anymore after two weeks of lurking here

>>58639 Except this website doesn't have spam and doesn't need any of those measures, 4chan has turned the dial way to much in the other direction. Fucking 15 minutes to post on a browser without cookies, rangebans on some boards for days on end until their anti-spam deems you not a spammer, but don't worry you can bypass it if you have a goypass or verify your e-mail. Fuck 4chan it's shit. Everyone that goes back is a fucking retard.

>>58664 It's really simple, 4chan has more servers with more CPUs, that's it.

>>59628 Actually its just because 4chan can use Cloudflare. Any time you download an image here, you're maybe connecting halfway around the planet. That takes a sec. We're looking at trying a non-CF type general CDN very soon that should speed things up a lot. But we're going to do it as a test first (probably using an extra server on the .SE domain), so we don't have all of our eggs in one basket.

>>59490 >I know people like 4chan a lot, with it being part of their lives (me too, i've been there daily since 2009) Are people really unable to separate their love for the idea of a chan from 4chan's shitty implementation of it? I thought more people would stay here because it's objectively better in every way, but they all went back like a woman to her abusive boyfriend.

>>59624 What’s the point of lying? You came here because this is where everyone from 4chan came. It was a slow shitty experience so everyone went STRAIGHT BACK to 4chan when it reopened — and you will go right back to it, too. Why? You know why, it’s where all the discussion is happening. The site owner had a window of opportunity to increase bandwidth / servers and he BLEW it. So even though performance is okay now everyone is gone and you’ll go too.

>>59630 >.se Did you solve your dispute with krauts? >>59632 It's fomo mostly, personally i think that some of the anon that took refuge here will at least start using both sites.

>>59638 No, we're bypassing the krauts entirely.

>>59490 This I just don't understand why people would go back. If 4chan was a semi decent website with decent moderation and responded to user feedback and improved I'd go, but they don't the mods don't have a clue they treat the users with contempt its full of low quality threads and brining up anything about the site even meta discussion will just get you a ban. Then throw in the obnoxious captcha, cooldown times range bans etc. I just don't understand its like people enjoy eating shit, this site isn't perfect but other than IDs its a lot better than 4chan even if its slower.

>>59647 4chan mods realized the hacker cared about the user base, so they decided they didn't have to. Their position is to do the bare minimum to get the site back up and get their users crawling back, and if someone wants to hack them again then they'll just patch it even better the next time. Hard to say what damage was done, they don't care about their privacy or lack thereof

>>59647 Stockholm Syndrome is one hell of a drug.

>>59635 >It was a slow shitty experience so everyone went STRAIGHT BACK to 4chan when it reopened I was never really bothered by the images loading sightly slower. Are you too young to remember dial-up? I begrudgingly went back to 4chan, first to lurk just in case, and when I saw everyone is talking there, I realized I had to stay there.

>>59640 Uh am I not supposed to be able to connect at all or just .se? Currently it all still werks for me. t. kraut

>>59635 >You know why, it’s where all the discussion is happening. >discussion lol. This place is refreshing. You have no idea how I missed this feeling even though it took 4chan going down to remember it. Have you never wondered why memes suddenly stopped spawning from 4/a/? >>59611 No, fuck that shit. The email thing, on an anonymous website, is a bigger crock of shit.

>>59635 >it’s where all the discussion is happening I'd hardly call what happens in the average /a/ thread discussion. Just look in the bleach thread

>>59635 >You know why, it’s where all the discussion is happening. you have a point but for every legit post on a thread you have like 5-10 shitposts or so and i can't stand it anymore i don't browse imageboards all day anymore so i'm not going to be able to keep up with fast-moving threads i'm fine with slower threads as long as they're not dead the alternative is giving up posting on imageboards entirely because it seems these days you either post on 4ch (which is a cesspool), no-fun-allowed altchans with draconian rules, dead ones, or altchans for specific communities this is the only real alternative to 4ch, just like the old 8ch

>>59661 >No, fuck that shit. >The email thing, on an anonymous website, is a bigger crock of shit. I have never given 4chan my email. Stop clearing your cookies like a fucking menhera, and you won't get the long cooldown timer. It is just that simple.

>>59595 ∞chan

>>59611 What's the point posting on an ANONYMOUS image board if you don't use VPN or TOR and delete your cookies after every session? Might as well put your real name and address into the name field. You just saw how competent 4cuck was at protecting sensitive data and you STILL want to give it to them?

>>59686 >Implying the other chan is anonymous...

>>59635 Fuck off Jay Irwin we ain't coming back to your cuckchan

>>59686 If you post anything illegal, the police will contact 4chan, and 4chan will give up your IP address, which is tied to your ISP, which is tied to your identity. VPNs also keep user data, and if you pay for the service, they have your financial info too. Tor is also not untraceable. You are never anonymous online. Why you want to make your life harder by deleting site cookies for no reason is beyond the realm of logic or reason.

>>59687 >>59691 Using a non-cucked VPN, rotating your browser fingerprint and deleting cookies will make it pretty much impossible to identify you. It's not like they have enough resources to trace every menheraid loli poster on the net.

Post now gets posted instantly here

>>58560 I will use both 4cuck is basically plebbit now but they still make some good threads every once in a while, and everything moves faster, alt chans are too slow

>>59692 You’re underage, I’m guessing? You clearly have not done your research.

>>59691 "Illegal" is mostly situational and prone to interpretation, for example in my country outright saying "fucking kike" is legally persecuted and even in countries with non-cucked dictated speech legislations, like the US, entities like the ADL exist and can make your life miserable given the chance/excuse.

>>59699 Funny telling that to someone who works in professional cybersecurity for over 15 years. You clearly picked the wrong target for your larping.

>>59647 You can use both retard.

>>59706 Sure, bro. Now you’re a “cybersecurity expert.” But you just can’t figure out how to get around 4chan’s 2 minute cooldown timer. Lmao. Underage little shit.

>>59692 >pretty much impossible to identify you >Standing out as a sore thumb makes you unidentifiable I really liked the old cybsec guides of /g/ but most were stupidly retarded.

>>59710 Why so mad Jimmy? I do know how to get around the timers and captchas but it's not worth the effort for worse board quality.

>>59711 You don't stand out like a sore thumb if you do it correctly. The whole point is to make it look like a normal client, just that its a different normal client every time you go online and doesn't trace back to you.

>>59715 You clearly have the wrong idea of what's "normal"...

>people think they know better about my job than me lmao

>>59691 >Tor is also not untraceable. Don't flatter yourself, law enforcement isn't going to spend hundreds of man-hours investigating who said he likes a drawing of a child on a basket weaving forum. Tor is for all intents and purposes untraceable unless you're the world's most wanted terrorist or something.

4chan really needs to adress some problems but i doubt they will do that

Honestly i prefer this place

>>59736 Me too! We should kiss.

>>59647 yeah I'm just done with halfchan for good personally. I'm fine with the slower speed if that's the cost. I'll just have to start posting more myself >>59736 >>59737 *smooches both of you*

>they already have a bunch of cuck and spam threads yea i'm staying, but not in this place (imagine posting on the site that has an interracial board in the top 10)

It's sad seeing people abandoning this site after halfchan came back online. Like seeing a girl being used as a convenient side chick and being dropped abruptly despite trying her best (I can save her btw).

Man, I tried to go back. Not as a permanent thing/not to abandon this place, but I told myself that the traffic and board activity was worth it. Jesus christ I was already fatigued and burned out with halfchan being full of low quality fucking threads and shitposts for years now, but actually going back there after a 2 week break and experiencing how good things can be on here really fucking jaded me. Can't even have a proper Gundam thread on /a/ without the OP being some form of bait about how "yuri boogeyman btfo aiiiyyyeeeeee" and that thread's left to fester for hours because jannies and mods are retarded pricks who are more concerned with upholding the post-2015 status quo than moderating their damn site. I don't know if I can do it. It's all so tiresome.

>>59790 >I can save her btw No you can't. Nice girls always lose, haven't you learned anything from harem romcoms?

>>59794 i have been only in very specific threads/boards on 4c before and seeing altchans really showed how shit infested it is yeah

>>59790 I wasn't using her I love her She's just so distant, and I have connections... I will stay with her though

Another big problem of 4chan is that the threads there are actually repetitive and unoriginal. Threads to some topics are just repeating the same stuff they did before the site went down.

>>58560 I'm probably gonna keep using here, 4chan and sharty simulateously tbh

>>59794 Are you the guy whose post got deleted? It had a Machu image and similar sentiments. Did they get you for using the word 8chan?

>>59815 Yeah that was me. I actually tend to delete posts ahead of time that I figure will get banned if I leave them up, like complaining about jannies/mods or talking about altchans. My current living situation makes it hard to ban evade since I have a static IP address and I caught on years ago that jannies won't do jackshit if you delete your post before they can do anything.

also, machu cute

>>59150 i think 4/a/ is way too fast, but everywhere is too fast for me nowadays

I'm staying. Speed is meaningless if 90% is trash. It just buries the few good threads,

>>59729 Dude, TOR is an NSA honeypot, and has always been an NSA honeypot. If you use TOR, you are on a list automatically, it's that traceable. This came out in one of the Wikileaks disclosures YEARS ago.

>>59822 Depends, sometimes even if you delete a post, if it was reported and made a janny shit themselves with rage, you'd still get a 3-day vacation. Happened to me a couple of times.

>>59881 That's a pretty bold statement and would need some evidence to back it up, otherwise sounds like "just use clearnet". Glowies also need a secure network to do their drug trade, etc. and that's why they allow TOR to exist.

>>59886 Tor is also known to be use by CIA to incite terrorism inside other nations, like with the arab springs which were closely involved with TOR

>>59888 I'm not a /pol/tard so I'd need more evidence than da joos and "woke" virtue signalling. Like technical documentation of an exploit or otherwise some files that'd show all or most tor nodes are compromised.

>>59794 >>59801 I feel the exact same way, I have a daily I need to finish dumping (literally since the hack happened right before the end of the current EN translation) and it kills me to think of getting it done there.

>>59894 what manga?

>>59902 Sentai Red Isekai de Boukensha ni Naru / The Red Ranger Becomes an Adventurer in Another World

>>59888 >>59889 Man you are really retarded

>>59908 oh you're that fag. godspeed. it was nice watching the show with /m/ tourists. most references would have flown over my head without you guys, and it wouldn't have been so civilized.

how much the episode threads have been abandoned by today really is grim. 60 vs 0 posts for one example.

>>59999 Thanks, only have chapters 38, 39, and 40 left to do, though I feel like redumping 37 as a refresher since it's been a long while is probably a good idea. The real issue that's been bouncing around in my head is whether to do it there or here. I'm glad I at least got a chance to bump the last dump with info of when (and where) the next one will likely be, and to keep an eye on desuarchive ghost posts if it got bumped off (it did).

>>60004 The less popular shows never got many posts for these past two weeks either so I'm not surprised. I could live with using 4/a/ for discussing my niche animu and 8/a/ for discussing everything else anyway.

>>59794 >"yuri boogeyman btfo aiiiyyyeeeeee" That's the usual welcome to any anime with FMC, female author, etc. the r*k influence is real.

>>59888 Maybe /pol/ is more your speed...

>>60012 well i'm in for the 8 catalog for now. i made my post in one thread, won't bump it alone so that one's a lost cause. >>60015 they cannot handle the yuri kino

>>59794 >Jesus christ I was already fatigued and burned out with halfchan being full of low quality fucking threads and shitposts for years now All me btw, your welcome.

cope all you want but you'll come crawling back once this place slows way down

>>59794 I started to doubt myself, wondering if halfchan really was terrible or I was simply coping with the fact that it was down. Now I have the answer and it's tiresome.

>>59892 >>59886 Look, I don't keep a running bibliography for every single fact I have ever heard, just in case a redditor demands to see my citations during a casual conversation. I did read it in a Wikileaks release, and it seemed legitimate enough to remember it. I'm not going to spend a half hour digging it up for some shitposter who is probably just using TOR to post cp or something. The only people you are anonymous from on TOR are the site admins of the websites where you are posting. As soon as law enforcement gets involved, you lose anonymity. And not to be one of these "if you have nothing to hide" people, but we're on a fucking anime basket weaving website. What the fuck are you even doing that you think you need to be "totally untraceable," as if you were? Probably something that you shouldn't be doing on someone else's site. Jesus Christ. Learn to cope with thread IDs better. Maybe just don't samefag here like you would on 4chan. I mean fucking god damn, what is wrong with you.

>>60010 >The real issue that's been bouncing around in my head is whether to do it there or here. Why not both? There's no captcha here so it's no extra effort

How did the moniker "halfchan" catch on so quickly? I thought it was a wordfilter, but no, you can say 4chan just fine. It can't be native 8channers using it since the 4chan refugees overwhelmingly outnumbered them, yet for some reason they all instantly started calling it "halfchan".

>>60051 WikiLeaks still says Tor is trustworthy https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Tor You're full of shit.

>>60058 Halfchan was used over a decade ago when everybody migrated to the original 8chan over moot's mishandling of Gamergate. This current 8chan and the other 8chan (8kun) aren't the same site as the original one but they came from the ashes of it and share the same general idea around disliking how 4chan's run and trying not to become another 4chan. t. posted on the original 8chan/infinity chan for a year or two before crawling back to halfchan in like 2016/2017

>>60062 >over a decade ago >over a decade ago*

>>60051 Calling your brothers redditors the moment they Annoy you is very unbecoming of You, Anonymous!

>>60064 >do work for me, I'm your brother! Are you Jewish? You sound Jewish.

>>60066 You're incorrigible Hmph *throws hands in the air*

>>60061 This page says you are safe from "internet spies," not from the government.

>>60051 I post through TOR because my shithole started blocking .moe for whatever reason last week. Also doubt all glowfag machinery would get involved over minor things if it's possible in the first place. Everyone can run Tor relay nodes and the source code is available. >T-there's no source but you're a reddit pedo shitposter who hates IDs if you don't believe me I did a quick search and found a menhera website that links illuminati to european union and also a reddit post. Not really convincing.

>>60068 no privacy software dev claims you're safe on the internet against shit like pegasus.

>>60055 That being very true is a big part of it. If I knew that all of the people that cared about the daily saw the posts and know to check here as well, why take all he extra time to dump on 4chan? Even one page at a time is only ~30 seconds, while there it's 60. Only upside is more time for me to comment on the page I'm posting, but I don't do that too often anyway and could just do it after the dump is finished instead.

>>60058 I still don't know what menhera means and I'm not sure I want to.

>>59729 >>59881 TOR is owned by/at least has connections to Feds but they can't really touch you and they won't touch you unless you're the final boss of terrorism/building a nuke or some shit, because if feds actually bypassed TOR's anonymity to make an arrest and brought you to court they'd have to publicly disclose how they did it and how TOR's not completely anonymous which would kill the entire platform.

>>60074 Cute little girls

>>60074 It's the japanese term for BPD chicks. In this context anon is just accusing anon of being a menhera.

>>60074 Woman with a mental illness. Comes from "mental health", I believe. On here, the s-word gets wordfiltered to this. Actually, I'm gonna test this myself: menhera

>>60059 time for correction

>>60080 Oh there's a wordfilter! I see. Why?

>>59536 >Though there's still some merit in it like the traffic is fast enough that one-off thread like announcement or major news can be made without worrying about clogging the catalog. i don't mind posting on a general thread dedicated for news and stuff in 4/a/ there's a lot of bad faith posters over there muddying the waters to drown out the legit posts, so i would prefer discussing it here

And yet as soon as people (see terrorist) don't use smartphones 24/7 and post their pics with GPS data on IG they're essentially impossible to find. The usual anon isn't worth enough to track unless the browser is cooperating with the tracking and fingerprinting. There's no "100% safe browsing" when even the level 8 is the usual point of failure.

>>60086 then.... prevention (hidden ip, no trackers, avoiding triggers of mass surveillance) and keeping a low value profile is key to not be targeted

>>60068 What else do you think "internet spies" refers to if not governments? The word "spy" already implies military/government affiliation.

>>60084 Because it's generally used for low-quality namecalling. In a similar vein, s-l-o-p is filtered to "kuso". I like it. I always wanted more Japanese wordfilters beyond the classic baka desu senpai

a couple of other boards I follow on 4cuck like /g/ are currently being flooded with bots having the most menheraphrenic conversations with themselves. I think they're copy+pastes from comments on Youtube that someone is bringing over to 4cuck to try annoying people into leaving. Well, it's working, I have more 8moe tabs open right now chan 4cuck and I may gradually reduce those.

>>60088 >hidden ip Sure, that's the basics and depending on the ISP isn't even needed for most activities because they re-use the IP for multiple users even at the same time. >no trackers Each time CF detects that an user doesn't have "tracking history" it's flagged and at minimum that user needs to proof it's a human, so botting a website will not hide your activity without paying. Being non-interesting is better than try to go fully untracked. >avoiding triggers of mass surveillance A lot of surveillance are just keywords and using internal resources like financial data, mostly to target groups rather than "sole wolves".

>>60093 so with being non interesting a base line, how would you hide interesting traffic on the same device?

>>60092 >are currently being flooded with bots having the most menheraphrenic conversations with themselves I've had a few responses on /v/ today that seem so outrageously over the top while not actually addressing any of my points that they feel like they were written by an AI instructed to be as obnoxious as it possibly can. This doesn't even feel like it was written by a fucking human. For context my post this bot is responding to was talking about how surreal and crazy it was that people are fitting vaporwave, a modern genre, with voice samples and everything, into Super Mario World romhacks on early 90s hardware and in theory can be played on an actual SNES.

For major boards like /a/ and /v/, I am staying here, but there is no alternative for slower ones like /p/, /trv/, /n/ unfortunely, if these boards are dead, people will just go outside really. >>60092 Only thing left to do is make /t/ not fucking dead.

>>60089 This isn't high school where they have to speak in code. It's their own website. If they meant "government," they would say "government."

>>60098 >that post What in the fuck is that? Yeah, that has to be a bot. For my own sanity, nobody can be this unhinged and/or stupid.

>>60098 > while not actually addressing any of my points that they feel like they were written by an AI instructed to be as obnoxious as it possibly can. I had exactly the same feeling like 2 weeks ago on /k/. If you try to cornered them they just go tangent and avoid replying directly. I don't know if young people behaves like that or it's a chatGPT bot.

>>60098 I'm seeing this on /g/ as well. Earlier a thread devolved into a spiel about creationism and if computers are the tool of satan. I recognized immediately that it was probably ripped from a comment posted on reddit or youtube. This seems new as well, I don't remember these kinds of posts being so frequent.

What the fuck is up with this new captcha anyway, it's actually easier than before? It's no wonder bots are still everywhere, are they even meant to deter them or do bots mean more activity and thus more money so they get a free pass?

>>60098 >>60109 That's what jeetposting looks like. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qHSxtWGZWd4

>>60110 Young people would just go "Dude your regarded 🧂🧂🧂🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀" and that would be the last you would hear of them. Anyone who engages but continues to avoid any replies is either trolling with pasta or AI.

>>60098 it's like reading a post from a bot account on x but it's been like that on 4ch since 2019 or something, those constant, fake ragebait posts

>>60112 I haven't had to slide anything yet, I'm guessing it's turned up to 11 for anybody outside of the US.

>>60098 God I really need to finish that series. Stopped in the middle of S2 for some reason.

>>60094 The question is too broad and what's being tracked changes. Blatantly illegal things shouldn't be done with the same device and it shouldn't be traceable to your persona irl. I'm sure there's a lot of manuals about that for journalist living on dictatorships. Besides that keeping your real life persona separated is enough, that's where people fails though, especially if their net persona is popular. For things just questionable or avoiding fingerprinting Tor is enough even if people says some nodes are compromised. Shortening the session is essential and it's default setting of tor browser. But if you're using a proxy to ban evade in twitter, to give and example, then it's kinda a waste of time because most people repeats their behavior and you can re-id that user after a short time. I'm talking from my own experience after doing some data mining with the nearly complete metadata of a (now dead) social network. The metadata was public for some reason.

>>60036 Not today Satan Maybe tomorrow!

>>60098 >/v/ The difference in quality of the expedition 33 threads on 4/v/ and the ones on 8/v/ make me sad

>>59794 Weird how survived on 4chan for all these years even though alternatives were available. Want to know why? Because you go where everyone else goes, and everybody demands performance above all else. So when 4chan came back everyone disappeared from here because no one was willing to put up with the slow performance for one second longer than necessary. That’s not the bots and shill farms, that’s the quality posters you claim to love.

>>60082 Noooooooo

>>59300 >serious reform While im not versed on jannies and borads drama, If 4 is making a comeback it needs a moderately technology competent person that knows how to install a fucking security update. In these days, installing a patch is not rocket science. While manye people argue that 4's demise was becvause of inter - management conflicts, it was manly due to utter technological incompetence and neglect. Seems that nu-moot read to took updooter meme kool-aid

If God's final Sysadmin fixes the server load this weekend I'll be staying >>60067

>>60100 You do realize you can just create 8/p/ and moderate it yourself if you want to, right? Did you read the website manual?

>>58800 I’m German, what are you talking about?

>>60105 They did say it. They said spies, and spies work for the government, who the fuck else? It's common sense. You think some random hobbyist hacker wants your data?

>>60155 to be fair it's very easy to miss it. imo the manual and the board list should both be front and center on the main page so new users can learn how the site works, and also learn that the boards in the top bar aren't the only boards

>>60153 Most of the server load probably is related to retards DDoSing the page. >the culprit? hard to know, probably sj* and angry samefaggers (one of them even made a script to shill against ids)

>>60160 >It's common sense. Common sense would say that a tool developed by and for the NSA wouldn't be released for free, public use without a backdoor for cp-dealers and other victims of the honeypot to be easily caught. Do you think these people want you to actually be "free" on the internet, or do you think they would prefer if you be lured into a false sense of security? Internet anonymity is fake. The best you'll ever get is pseudo-anonymous interactions with other members of the public.

>>60160 Even someone like Edward Snowden, who was a government contractor for the NSA with knowledge of ALL of their systems--if there was anyone who had a shot at internet anonymity, it would be him--yet he had to flee to Russia to escape the dragnet.

>>60178 Snowed did something illegal, even if you agree with him.

>>60185 Was there an attempt at making a point here?

>>60178 tor is a tool like any other. it's good for some threat models, having heat on your back and glowies watch your actions 24/7 and tapping your wires is not something it's designed to handle. but the openness of the protocol actually shows its flaws and has some scientific effort put into its constant enhancement. that's not to say it's perfect but if you're a relatively anonymous civilian with some tweaks a bit of tor can go a long way. you should read up what it is, what its flaws are and how people using it get caught.

>>60176 You're speaking about software that has its source available and could be audited easily. Any obvious backdoors would be detected sooner or later. Also it stopped being affiliated with glowies some time ago (from wikipedia): >In 2004, the Naval Research Laboratory released the code for Tor under a free license, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) began funding Dingledine and Mathewson to continue its development.[12] In 2006, Dingledine, Mathewson, and five others founded The Tor Project, a Massachusetts-based 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization responsible for maintaining Tor. This further bumps the complexity level of adding any unwanted features, at this point glowies tracking you through a proprietary OS (if you're dumb enough to use Windows and do crime on it) or proprietary firmware (Intel ME, AMD PSP) sounds more probable.

>>60191 >>60192 >you should use tor like us >no one will notice

>>60192 I feel like if ME/PSP was actually used for surveillance we would already know. they draw the ire of one too many autists to not have some monitoring their home networks for any funny business. are they essentially backdoors, though, still? yeah, but I'm halfway willing to bet it's mostly kusopy engineering

>>60178 Years later and people can't even get the story straight even when they're sympathetic to Snowden. He didn't flee to Russia, he had no plan to stay there at all. He was headed for Ecuador when America decided to revoke his passport and leave him stranded in a Russian airport, and every country that even thought about offering asylum would receive a threatening phone call from the US government advising them to reconsider. >>60185 The laws exist to enshrine our freedoms, not to prevent us from speaking out even as such freedoms are infringed upon. You are not going to look it up, but go ahead and look up what happened to previous whistleblowers who went through the "proper channels" as they were repeatedly exhorted to do.

I can't go back. My 1 year ban is still in effect. (if you get banned like 70+ times on 4cuck, they just give up and slap you with a 1 year ban)

>>60202 >speaking out If you're using your freedom to agree with an NDA, then you can't just disclose reserved info. Stop conflating ideas.

>>60196 You imply that there are backdoors in TOR and that it's compromised without providing any evidence while claiming that going raw into the net makes actually a better protection. Clearnet provides zero protection so I can use an NSA honeypot as well if it makes no difference, thank (((you))) for caring so much about my privacy, but I'm sticking with TOR. I'm out of this discussion. >>60200 >I feel like if ME/PSP was actually used for surveillance we would already know. they draw the ire of one too many autists to not have some monitoring their home networks for any funny business. Well, could be that afroamericans that glow in the dark are less competent than people think. They'd probably use a backdoor in Windows first anyway.

>>60196 >you shouldn't research, think, consider your options or make a threat model >you should not hope to anonymity, just give up >you can't try anything. don't ever think for yourself >here's what you should do, you should put labels on everything >let labels take over your thinking >you should fear >here's a funny image, here's the depth of your thought hmmmmmmmmmmm....

>>60208 >If you're using your freedom to agree with an NDA, then you can't just disclose reserved info. Sure you can. Some of us have these things called "principles", you see. I know you're not familiar with that term.

>>60223 >. Some of us have these things called "principles", you see. I'm only interested in discussing from the LEGAL point of view, that's why I said " even if you agree with him.". You're conflating "principles" with "legality".

>>59894 will you be starting some storytimes here? i enjoyed them sometimes and dumping here should be so nice with multiple images.

>>60227 If this place keeps a decent enough number of people, sure. May even finish the Sentai Red Isekai dump here instead of 4chan depending on how things go.

>>60215 I want to fuck this fat sow so god damn bad

>>60226 I am not conflating the two. I am expressing clear disregard for one in favor of the other. Go ahead and talk about it from the legal point of view. Of course it's "illegal". Who do you think is writing the laws that cover their asses?

>>60081 s-word? wat

>>60240 Well, I can't type it. S.c.h.i.z.o. Did that work?

>>60239 >I am not conflating the two. but >I am expressing clear disregard for one in favor of the other. Do you understand that expressing "clear disregard" is meaningless when the point of the discussion is legality? >Who do you think is writing the laws that cover their asses? He voluntarily chose to sign an NDA. That isn't "covering their asses" it just following the rules. Otherwise any complex organization would be illegal with your (probable) worldview. >Bank hires an anon >anon releases secret passwords of the bank and internal vulnerabilities >WhY Are ThEy SuIng Me!?!?

menhera

>>60243 i see. no idea what the one word has to do with the other but whatever i dont type either anyways.

>>59888 >Even in the "inclusive-safe" art they can't help differentiating asians with small slanted eyes lol. the people who make this shit lack self-awareness

>>60258 Two faced hypocrites can't help themselves.

>>60249 Yeah, it took me a bit to catch on to it for those reasons. I guess it's just somewhat generally used for "crazy" chicks, hence the connection. But whether it's accurate or not, I find it kind of funny.

>>60098 Those are pretty much pajeetbots faking engagement in order to later use it at xitter to farm engagement bucks

>>58560 4chan is only good for dumps now

It's okay guys! The hacker has been given a 3 day ban! 4chan is saved!

>>60496 Hallelujah!

>Notice 4chan is back >Check it out >Zero attempts have been made to improve it, the issues with bots, sharty children and paid Indian trolls/shills are as bad as ever HAHAHAHAHAno not going back.

>>60233 how did you post what i was going to post before i posted it? are you me?

>>60612 I think it's even worse now. Not just the mods, the user base is even worse than before. You would think this brief moment of respite would force them to self reflect alas they lack the self awareness for such a feat.

>>60672 it's because the best users are the ones who haven't gone back

>>60279 How so? Dumping is downright painful on 4chan with its captchas.

>>58560 >15 minute timers some just use those throwaway gmail accounts on to bypass the 15 minute timers

>>60205 You don't have a dynamic IP? I can evade any ban by simply waiting until 1 AM when the router resets itself

>>60797 Hold it. "Throwaway" and "Google" don't belong together in a sentence. I don't have to explain why right?

4chan doesn't have cute Nia at the bottom of the page.

>>60672 It was all over mainstream news so I'm guessing a lot of normalfags who never used it before are there now

>>60074 Menhera is my favourite word filter tbdesu

Well it's been 2 days and I'm already banned on 4chan again, so I guess I'll be discussing anime, technology, politics, and other stuff here with y'all again for the next week.

>>60897 >already banned What'd you do?

I like 8moe, but I refuse to post with IDs. Which is sad because it's a recent thing. So that just means animu or smug or something, not necessarily 4ch. >>58621 That's only for the first post. Once you post + get the cookie for it it's standard 60 seconds. >>58904 >I can testify that their moderation is not perfect, but it's still probably bad news. They need to learn that they can not influence posters / posting habits the way they think. >>59126 Eh. You can't judge a board by what other boards are on the site. 4ch may have /pol/ and /lgbt/ but this site has /interracial/ which is more disgusting.

>>60899 Well, they rule 1'd me and didn't link what post was allegedly rule breaking. Rule 1 is supposed to be for illegal shit, but can be either for posting illegal things or "discussing" them. I'm guessing the latter since the ban duration was only 1 week. And also I've made so few posts in the past few days that the only thing I can think of that comes close was a post on /pol/ I made in reference to discussions of hypothetical violence against ICE. Someone suggested that illegals can't own firearms, and my response was "who said the people doing the shooting need to be illegals?" Like that wasn't supposed to be interpreted as encouraging people to shoot at ICE. It was meant to be interpreted as "you shouldn't assume that only illegals would have the motivation to do so". Basically telling the other guy he shouldn't be so narrow minded. I guess it's a sensitive topic.

>>60946 For illegal shit, huh? Be careful that glowies don't swat you. Stay safe, /pol/fag.

>>60657 Psychic powers

I'm using both for now, mainly this one. I think the couple weeks away from halfchan gave me perspective on just how bad it was because the quality of the exact same generals I frequent were noticeably better. Also the fact that some of the known menheras and shitposters were not here, yet the moment halfchan was back up they were there. It's like I knew they were SEA/Indian but knowing and actually seeing it for yourself is different. The other thing is that halfchan jannies are rampantly biased and contribute to the problem while the mods are too jaded to care. There was a show I was watching last year that was being spammed by an aifag on cooldown, literally 50+ posts per thread of the guy spamming aishit that he was copy pasting from pinterest. Basically derailed every thread with posts telling him to fuck off and he doubled down with le ironic real art, muh artists etc. arguments and made the threads unusable. Reporting him never did anything because the shitposter was literally a janny/friends with a janny and never got banned for it. Instead everyone telling him to fuck off got 3 days for "troll posts." I even went to irc to try and talk to the mods about it and they were just like le 3 days can't be appealed and banned me from the irc too. So the situation essentially continued until the end of the season and by then threads that were previously getting 2-3 bump limit threads per week were now dying at 150 posts in a single thread. Basically one shitposter was allowed to completely kill threads for a show because a janny was in on it and mods refused to do anything about it. I didn't think I still had it but pic very related. Either way I think the new perspective was the most valuable thing to come out of all of this. I'll just see where it goes from here but for the moment it seems like halfchan is only going to continue to get worse rather than better.

Wait a minute, this board doesn't have a mahoako thread? That must be fixed

>>60974 What a shitshow. These could be bots or shills deployed by FAGMAN megacorporations to promote "AI art".

>>60978 fixed >>60982

>>60933 >>60946 I stopped posting here outside of meta threads because of the BV justwannahelp who's an unironic z**mer redditor snowflake and the BO who admitted to not having ever visited 4/a/ and not understanding chan culture. Massive sell signal. See >>60965. >>60974 The powertripping tranny mods on 8/a/ are not much better. They will instead delete and ban you if they don't like whatever show or character you bring up, or label your post "low quality", as happened with yuri and GuP threads. Plus all the ID and word filter faggotry. They rolled most of the filters back, but not z**mer, because I'm pretty sure justwannahelp is one and gets triggered.

I'm just gonna test the filters real quick. Shōwa ojisan onani master doomer Reiwa kodomo

>>60997 >doomer I doubt those kind could survive in this place. Their kind were the most likely to samefags.

>>60997 >Shōwa ojisan >onani master >Reiwa kodomo Yup. Filters are active. I did not write these words

>>60984 >I don't even post outside of meta threads You said the quiet part out loud

>>59621 >Absolutely no reason to clear your cookies. This person is clinically insane.

>>60766 Yeah, I'm not really sure what he means. Hell, depending on the time of day and what you're dumping, you may need to pause for 5 minutes to selfbump your dump on 4chan, while here that's not an issue.

>>58767 Action was taken too late. Using the site during peak hours was torture and as I predicted most people wouldn’t tolerate it for a second longer than they didn’t have to.

>>61002 >I don't even post outside of meta threads Stop misquoting me you tranny faggot. I said >>60984 >I stopped posting here outside of meta threads Meaning that I used to put effort into posting in anime discussion threads, and then I found out what absolute faggots the staff on 8/a/ are. As predicted, all non-redditor ID haters went to 4/a/ and 8/a/ now consists of trooncorders circlejerking and ID haters seething in meta threads. Enjoy your /pol/ nu-/a/.

>>61096 I've been seeing a lot of >8chan is le bad and le reddit posts all around the site lately, and when it doesn't work, sudden gore and scat start to appear. Really makes me question if this is a coincidence or not.

>>61106 8chan is not bad, but /a/ mods are faggots. Stop strawmanning.

>>61109 the nice thing about here is that you aren't held hostage by bad moderators like on halfchan. you can always make another board or join an existing one. it's pretty cool

>>61111 Checked and yes, 8chan on the whole is better than cuckchan. The issue is that most anons are absolute spineless faggots who will never stop sucking tranny janny dick and never leave the first board they imprint on, which leads to Stockholm syndrome like on 4cuck and 8/a/, which does hold non-retarded anons hostage to PPH. The issue, as always, is the people, not the rulers.

>>61111 another dead board, you mean. and no, I don't wanna babysit anons and cleanup after their shitposts

>>59826 >>59815 >>>/m/ >>59892 You won't get that because he's lying. He's probably an alphabet agency asset trying to scare people off Tor. Like this >>60196 makes it so obvious. >>60156 https://8chan.moe/site/res/5423.html#12415

>>61121 +1'ng what this anon said, this is important: https://8chan.moe/site/res/5423.html#12415 >So our new host for .se was legit. He allowed all our content. Also his upstream was legit. They allowed all our content. And the same with the CDN network. >However the Tier 2 ISP that services the entire region folded because of a legal threat from the fucking German government. The server for .se is still up right now, but its entire IP address subnet (read: part of the datacenter) has been blackholed. We can't even ssh into it, the block is total. And the best part? No warnings, no tickets, no nothing. Germany hissed and the cowards pulled the plug on the CDN, the host, and by extension, us. We have officially been hit with what hit Kiwifarms - ISP level censorship. Kinda wild, and also kinda surprising that we haven't seen it sooner. >Anyway that's the bad news. The good news is, the host and his upstream providers are pissed about this. They're going to set up a special network gateway just for us that avoids the compromised networks. He's almost as determined to get .se back up as we are, so we're going to go bust some heads together. And fuck Germany. Not sure on ETA yet, it sounds like it'll take a day or two for him to set this up, but when its ready we're gonna be all over it.

>>61121 >You won't get that because he's lying. He's probably an alphabet agency asset trying to scare people off Tor. Like this >>60196 makes it so obvious. Yeah, I noticed. The low IQ polack bait makes it obvious. Basically "be an extremist in the clearnet where we can see you and use you as a tool".

>>60974 >of the known menheras and shitposters were not here Some were here but half of the time in the meta thread complaining about IDs.

>>60984 >BO who admitted to not having ever visited 4/a/ and not understanding chan culture. Massive sell signal. See >>60965 (58591). The chan culture of animu flopped tho.

>>61141 nice chart. i bet the pph of 8/a/ will drop another 50% once the ID haters leave the meta threads.

>>60155 Create it and moderate for 0 to 2 people at max.

>>61145 You mean >>>/animu/? It's not flopped, just doesn't have any visibility because it's not on the board list on the front page and the owner of /a/ refuses to link it in the board message.

>>61152 updated with also the time when 4chan went dark

>>61165 >have any visibility I've seen the link spammed everywhere and it even had an active spinoff of a big general. Maybe it isn't that attractive compared to alternatives...

>>61168 "Everywhere" is a bit of a stretch. And if you're only now or in the future discovering 8chan, where are you ever going to find the link to /animu/? It's not on 8chan's or /a/'s front page, it's too far down in the board list to notice, not that new users will know about the board list anyway, and you wouldn't know to search through all the posts on the meta threads, since you wouldn't know about the existence of an alternative anyway. That is, if meta threads will still be up in the future, since the previous one was already 404'd >>35037. I'm pretty sure the BO refuses to link animu because he's scared /a/ will lose most of its traffic. I mean, even a dead board like >>>/mahodou/ is linked, despite it not reciprocating the link. >Maybe it isn't that attractive compared to alternatives... Maybe 8/a/ isn't that attractive compared to 4/a/... Stop being stupid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect

>>61187 >gaslighting Your lack of self-awareness is evident, you can argue without using that method, it would be better received even. And I want to see your posts in other websites to promote /animu/. As you said the Bandwagoon effect applies to the website as a whole...

Welp, I'm probably staying gone but FWIW it seems PPH will stay decently higher than before. Godspeed, 8bros.

>>61152 >>61166 stonks

>>61141 >/vyt/ had the smallest dropoff 4/vt/ can't be that bad right?

>>61378 It seems 4c mods are trying to do a "demographic replacement" in that board and /jp/.

>>61381 howso?

>>61385 They remove most threads that aren't lewds of touhou, idols or yt. I can't find the post talking about that, but in the past its topics were far broader than that.

Of course the vtuber board is still busy. A lot is happening in the vtuber world. Gawr Gura (the most popular vtuber with 4.5 million subs) is retiring this month. In the past 30 days alone, she is the fourth vtuber to leave her company. Something big is happening if that company is bleeding talents like crazy lately. They all mention "disagreement with management" as their reason for retiring.

>>61406 NOBODY CARES

>>61389 just went there I see what you mean >>61426 I care the vtuber stuff is mildly interesting even if I don't care much about the drama side of it

>>60974 This weekend gave me a renewed perspective as well. 4chan is fucking full of low IQ Indians (but I repeat myself) and menheras who CAN'T NOT samefag. They just can't help themselves. There isn't even a way to talk with one of these fucking people without them trying to slip in a little piece of shit snark without your post number being replied to, or else LARPing as if they were someone else. The jannies who do nothing or else actively hand out 3-day bans to people posting in good faith while ignoring the shitposting are also a big factor.

>>61406 Thank fuck, may they alld rop off the face of the Earth

>>61426 >>61567 Why is there so much hate against vtubers and gatcha in the anime community? I'm not a big fan of either but as an anime fan I can see the appeal and some are at least mildly entertaining. But why do some people hate both so much? Genuine question.

>>60974 Has anyone made a similar compilation for that disastrous thread in March? Basically, the nailfag AI spammer who makes ritual threads for his fetish (nails) made an entire thread and serially posted s|0p. No anime discussion, just sl.op. Every, and I mean every anon who told him to kill himself (and there were many), or to go away, or who simply opined negatively about genAI got their posts deleted and received bans. "Off-topic" and "trolling" were the reasons I think. There was almost certainly a mod staking out that thread and babysitting that fucking retard spammer because you could watch posts disappear in under 2 minutes tops. I don't know what policy changed there, some people were claiming the mods are being paid off. I suspect things will get worse; so far the board has fought off being colonized by AIs.lop, but moderators have not been deleting AI threads for months now. Eventually a base of operations will be set up within so-called "AI containment" general, and from there the familiar pathogenesis will reoccur, as it has on many boards. the sl0p will metastasize outside of its "containment" general under different names, but retain the same pattern low-quality, high volume submissions. Maybe this is just part of RapeApe and Hiro's keikaku to mask the declining activity sitewide.

>>61582 I don't agree with it, but I've heard some people who think vtubers&gacha take away some of the attention & money that would otherwise go into normal anime/actual games (e.g. harder to justify making ecchi games like senran kagura when gacha cornered the coombait game market) personally, I like both t.//

>>61582 >anime community A single anon isn't the "community", just a tiny part of it...

I never understood the fags that worship some seiyuu but are disgusted by chuubas how are these things different

>>61582 I assume something about it not being "authentic" or whatever. Maybe because it is similar to irl celebrities. Either way there are always "people" who take pride in liking X while hating Y. Could be also because it's simply a new thing and people tend to be conservative and gatekeep their chinese cartoons.

>>61582 >vtubers Because they're literally 3DPD whores who milk lonely men by exploiting anime avatars. Despicable. >gacha Not as bad since there's no roasties involved, but still a corporate cashgrab that takes away funding from anime and visual novels, which were staples of otaku culture.

>>61641 >all that r9k and pol jargon grim

>>61582 vtuber and gacha fags are subhumans Vtubers are 3dpd whores with a jpg or gif as avatar gacha is one of the worst things of modern /v/ It you cant see why gambling for jpgs in a game is evil, then you are a retard

>>61641 >>61647 >>61649 Just watch vtubers without spending money Just play gatcha without spending money I don't see the issue, it's literally free and nobody is forcing you to spend anything

>>61649 I don't spend money on either and still enjoy it >gambling is evil stop being a bitch

>just ignore the cancer growing Besides hating 3D whores is deeply rooted in real otakus Most otaku fags that like vtubers are heise or reiwa era faggots

>>61652 I've done that, but the problem is you contribute your views and attention to the popularity statistics and still give them money in case you don't block ads. Popularity attracts the simps to the vtuber, so you still indirectly contribute to the milking of lonely men. There's a saying: the only winning move is not to play. Boycott everything related to vtubers and gachas. Don't give them any money and attention. Don't shill for them on the internet like a cuck (for free btw). >>61657 >hating 3D whores is deeply rooted in real otakus Correct. Old-school otaku are disgusted by the worshipping of 3DPD. Literally just an e-whore streamer with a webcam filter.

>>61659 I'm not shilling for them and I don't care if lonely men get milked. There's also another saying: nothing ever happens.

>>61641 >>61647 >Because they're literally 3DPD whores who milk lonely men by exploiting anime avatars. Despicable. But you're aware that anime itself is a form of entertainment that also milks lonely men? Same for anime merch. You can also watch for free without paying a cent, but same goes for vtubers.

>>61665 >anime itself is a form of entertainment that also milks lonely men Correct, but the money goes to the anime industry, which is 99% either otakus or psychopathic executives (still better than roasties). This incentivizes the otakus to produce more anime and manga. With vtubers half of the money goes to roasties (who hate cute anime girls, and absolutely seethe at loli btw) for them to buy dinners for ch.ad or raise his children, and the other half to agencies to perpetuate this scam. Guess who doesn't get any money? The otakus. >You can also watch for free without paying a cent, but same goes for vtubers Answered in >>61659.

>>61582 Because vtumorfags and gachafags are filthy paypigs. That's why they're shunned. They waste money on streamer whores and gambling for PNGs. Literal subhumans.

>>61665 An anime may or may not be produced with the intention of milking money however the end product, when it's good, is entirely removed from their intentions. Anime girls speak and behave accordingly to in-universe goings on. Their movement is completely compartmentated off from reality. The same cannot be said of vtubers that are functionally identical to masks.

>>61669 While I understand your point now and mostly agree, then with the same logic you could also argue that the money goes to roasties who then provide more content people want, even if said people are extra cucked. And then otaku don't have a monopoly on the anime/manga style which became so successful even retarded westerners and roasties like/use it. But I have no energy in myself to hate such people, if the crap is what they want. >>61672 Okay, this is more convincing. Thanks.

>>61695 Vtubers aren’t e-thots, they are entertainers: basically idols who don’t need to be attractive irl. WESTERN vtubers do resemble e-thots to a high degree so I want to make that distinction because they’re also really bad as entertainers, ie, can’t be bothered to change their voice or pretend to be a certain character etc. Japanese vtubers are straight-up entertainment workers in the entertainment industry.

>>61711 I've never masturbated to 3DPD as far as I can recall. My introduction was 2D 15 years ago, and I've remain faithful.

>>61714 yeah I keep forgetting how much western indies ruined the scene and made it look just twitch streaming with an avatar, but most JP chuubas are basically digital idols, kinda makes me think of how AKB48 started as "idols you can meet!", but for the internet

>>61723 Probably because it's just blogposting past a point, but I find the conversation of masturbation to 2D vs 3D part of the entire otaku identity. It's also irrelevant to the thread I suppose. Could also just be the anon deleted both posts by mistake, since they posted it twice in a row.

what is this śchizo thread even about anymore

>>58560 8moe didn't have the same exposure as 4chan does cause to begin with it being censored by Search Engine Giants(Google, Bing(Microsoft), and Yahoo, and it prevents it from getting the exposure it needs. In fact the only search engines so far that show 8moe is Startpage, Mojeek, and Brave Search, with the latter two requiring specifically to search 8chan moe while you can actually find 8chan.moe by just typing "8chan" on Startpage. That said, 8moe has done remarkably well for being censored by association for the original 8chan. It retains good traffic even if its declined after 4chan has reopened. It just needs to maintain steady servers and the rest will take care of itself. >the cuck website with its 3 captchas, 15 minute timers, blocked VPNs and every other thread getting nuked? Obviously not, 4chan has its base largely due to brand recognition and being one of the "1st" imageboards out there. However, gradually, people will realize the superiority of 8moe and will flock here as they get tired of 4chan's arbitrary restrictions.

>>61750 🙏 🙏 🙏

>>61750 >However, gradually, people will realize the superiority of 8moe and will flock here as they get tired of 4chan's arbitrary restrictions. I wish I had your optimism anon

>>61750 >However, gradually, people will realize the superiority of 8moe and will flock here as they get tired of 4chan's arbitrary restrictions. How will people find us though? you need to know about 8chan and remember it as an option in order to go there. really 8chan just needs more exposure. that's the biggest issue imo

I'm thinking about taking a break from posting because it seems there's little actual anime discussion here and there are literal frogposting faggots in the other thread dominated by the retarded ID discussion.

>>61764 fugg, I thought it'd take a bit longer for frogposters to appear welp, it was nice while it lasted

>>61764 >checks thread >no frogs >the closets thing is a dbs capture

>>61776 See >>61730

>>61777 well that's Apu. he's the good frog

Lol, he deleted the frog out of shame

>>61780 no such thing as good frogs. let a single frog in and they take over your entire board. this is why they need to be genocided on sight. >>61783 no, probably got deleted by justwannahelp for triggering him.

>>61784 >checks logs >it was a different bv rent free

>>61790 he samefags now from multiple accounts now? sad.

>>61792 >avoids the point

>>61795 >wittgenstein midwit, opinion discarded

>>61800 Thanks for confirming there's a freeloader in your head. Q.E.D.

>>61802 I accept your concession.

>thread for the niche show i'm following this season is now dead sad

>>61874 on here?

>>61582 Because you're being offtopic and oversharing stuff people give no crap about, like a low-functioning autist. >>61714 Dude, they are hostesses in an online hostess bar wearing masks. They do what the customer wants for spare change, not with 'artistic expression' or the 'love of singing/acting/stand-up comedy' goals in mind. Any third-rate starlet writing crappy songs and being a piece of wood on the stage is more respectable and authentic than them. >>61728 It has outlived its purpose. >>61750 Bing doesn't censor 8chan. See pic. >However, gradually, people will realize the superiority of 8moe and will flock here as they get tired of 4chan's arbitrary restrictions. Perhaps to 8chan as a whole, but definitely not this ID-infested board. >>61762 Do your part.

>>61599 If you want to go conspiracy theory, the 4chan blog had a grok generated image, and GrapeApe is known to pay for a Xitter subscription.

>mods create a new meta thread and autosage this one instead of just pinning this one fucking retards

>>62001 It's meta but not related to 8/a/. The alternative is merging this thread with >>37670, that would bumplock both.

>>61582 There's no shared appeal and people post vtumors because muh anime artstyle

All this lash back at vtumors is heartwarming lol >>61719 Aniki.. Similar situation but 12 years here

>>61582 Japan raised vtubers and gacha games organically, but they weren't getting translated to English until they got huge, so to the western sphere they look like sudden invaders that are killing anime.

>>58560 this place has the problem of 8kun of not pruning old threads/not having a bump limit the board is full of obsolete and old threads that doesn't help the fact that this place has a really small population