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Legend of Galactic Heroes: My conquest is the sea of stars Anonymous 11/21/2021 (Sun) 06:49:28 No. 653
First off God damn that's a long subtitle, as ridiculously long a title to have to begin with they managed to top even that. Seriously what a fucking mouthful. So this anime is shilled a lot, and yesterday I finally was convinced to try it out. I began with the prequel movie "My conquest is the sea of stars", and I have serious issues with the last ten minutes, and nowhere else more appropriate to air them. There's a giant fleet engagement with about a million vessels taking part, as the democratic "good guys" are getting creamed they come up with a move to win. Three guys take a ship and kick everyone else off (if these ships don't need gunners to fire the guns, engineers to oversee the powerplant, marines for boarding actions, or even crewman to man radar. Then why the hell are these ships manned at all?) Then fly up to the enemy commander, come along side and sit there. The entire warzone goes quiet. Everyone to afraid to fire a single shot, EVEN MILLIONS OF KILOMETRES AWAY, for fear the commanders vessel might be struck. The "good guys" (who were getting crushed) use this confusion to sail away in peace, leaving this single vessel with three crewman alone behind enemy lines. Then that ship leaves too. That was the summary and already I bet many can see the obvious issues with this plot. 1. Coming alongside another vessel does indeed mean you probably won't be targeted by canon fire, sure, BUT that simply means you are commiting a boarding action. Pistols and sabers time. So why doesnt the "imperialistic" "badguy" commander sound repel boarders and? Or when it's clear he isn't being boarded, BOARD THE OTHER SHIP. 2. why the fuck would you let the enemy go? 3. Why would a ship fighting off boarders (which has been a common occurence for so long as naval vessels have existed I.E. all of western history) silence not just his own side, but the other side as well? 4. In a battlespace billions of kilometres wide why would anyone else give a shit? 5. Why let the enemy suicide vessel go? Why would noone take a potshot after it left the side of the commanders ship? 6. Is the entire series this monumentally retarded? Did the author even look into naval tactics from any century? 7. Will it get better? I mean what kinda ship doesn't have marines on board? How is there no procedure for dealing with a close in enemy? Traditionally you board it, kill the crew, and then cut away boarding ropes, wait til you are out of range of it exploding, and then sink the bastard. Or you take control of the enemy vessel, crew it, and keep fighting now with another ship in your flotilla. I just don't understand how that was a conundrum that has never occured in that animes world. Simple fucking shit guys. All that being said I liked it. Good music, good art, cool massive fleet battle. On the negative sides, bad dialogue (or maybe stilted is a better way of phrasing that) stupid understanding of warfare, and silly deus ex machina at the end for all the main characters to live. I'm thinking of making diagrams of the battle, and ones of Lord Nelson's victory at Trafalgar to further demonstrate how ridiculously naive the writer was in terms of tactics, complete with footnotes to the equipment available in the anime and the tactical considerations such weaponry necessitates. I don't know about tonight though. Oddly not feeling nearly autistic and angry enough to commit to what will be a minimum of three hours of work to create something that honestly only 3 people will ever see.
>>653 I also tried it due to all the praise. After a few minutes in the first episode, I dropped it. The main characters and their crew are all sipping tea and philosophizing like literal faggots, with NOBODY checking out radars and security equipment, then they all get a surprise attack by their enemies, since none of the entire crew of the ship was doing any form of surveillance, and instead, were drinking tea and talking about life like literal faggots. Then they go on "emergency mode" to try to retaliate against the enemy, all the while many ships in the fleet get attacked and destroyed. That scene alone made me drop it. I don't care what the rest of the series has to show. When the author made a scene as idiotic as that opening "surprise" attack, nothing that he wants to show is worth watching.
I challenge you to write a story about space warfare warfare make it sound exciting. There is no "up" There is no sound The weapons themselves are invisible, and fired from reductions distances from the target Slow as fuck, but also extremely tense as well, as you could instantly be hit by an attack that totally wrecks your shit at any momment. Etc. Space combat is boring af to write about with any amount of believable realism.
>>708 Also you can't see anything, so everything is being navigated by instruments.
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>>656 >watch a heavily politically driven anime >get upset when there's philosophical debate Okay retard
out of context vids of this gem is so much better than watching it full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLYBVHjONPM&list=FL8txYntxfcx8Fqny7oi0SYw&index=27
>>724 watching the full episodes*
>>656 >>708 that's it retards, LoGH is philosophical more than it's about politics and realism, it discusses ideologies and political theories purely as abstract ideas not their application
>>708 Realism > style.
>>715 >Being this much of a shill >muh philosophy good Found the soyfreak. >let's discuss philosophy instead of fortifying our defenses Ok, retard.
>>726 >it discusses ideologies and political theories purely as abstract ideas not their application Made by retards and for retards then.
>>782 By that logic, fiction itself would be completely trumped by history.
Straight in there with the overt anti-white shit, this one. Second time around my nose got too sensitive for the stench & I dropped it.
>>893 Only retards like fiction more than reality.
>>898 >overt anti-white shit Where? At any rate, I personally rooted for the Goldenbaum dynasty. Doesn't matter anyway; it's not like there are any nignogs in the empire for Reinhard (or his heirs) to push for diversity, and Reinhard has never interacted significantly with any non-white to care.
If only Kircheis were here
Too high brow for today's sloppa enjoyers. No centralized MC penis to suckle on.
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i wanted to write something but >>25068 was enough to satisfy me. have a shitpost.
>>782 >>991 Why the fuck are you on a board that discusses mostly fiction retard?
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>>653 Space America vs Space Nazis, and those meddling phezzans. >>726 The theory is mostly political but it definitely likes to show a policy's application in military strategy. I cried a little bit when that village got burned down
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>>30368 LoGH is the naruto of space operas.
>>37130 I should watch more space operas
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Anyone else been reading the novels? It honestly feels like the original OVA's narrator >>25068 Great soundtrack Sieg Kaiser Reinhard! Sieg fĂźr das Neue Galaktische Reich!
>>37125 The Patriotic Knights Corps...
>>37125 Just saw this episode. The incessant use of classical music is pretty great. 30 years has changed a lot...
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I still have to watch the prequel films/OVA, and rewatch the OVAs...
>>61138 I envy you
my sides are gone
>>653 While, the animation and sound need better direction; it was good enough for me to enjoy the story. It truly was a grand experience.
>>25068 Epic, the music is honestly the best part
>>64872 Sieg
>>25068 >I hate krauts who disagree with me but I hate other countries even more <This statement alone caused a breakthrough in German thought. Led by this "genius" rhetoric, the germans brought their inferiority complex to new heights. They were now united as one. The germans were all finally living in one country. Undivided in their quest for relevance, they decide to call their country... The unified german "empire"
>>64893 Kaiser Reinharddoe!
the series indeed goes off the deep end midway thorugh season 2 and starts wanking off democracy instead of criticing both as it had done so up to that point. it also has to show autocracy as horrible through just not writing any good ideas for reinhard, which is plain lazy. democrats witholding information on terrajews is also what caused the season 4 shit show to ensue and what led to the death of that bloke in season 3. the series high notes were that all the main cast were male leads for first season and that the girls that were introduced were all tomboys. the ship combat and the political manueavring is top notch too. the gore is on point as well, minus the few parts where the focus on it to show the horrors of war even though they've been showing worse gore as if it was nothing up to that point. lets not forget the openning and ending songs all being composed by the director and song by the same person each time so the mood, tone and words are as appropriate as it can get. I never saw reinhard as someone who wants absolute autocracy to be his legacy. just that he wanted to make the world a fairer place so people like his sister have a lower chance of tragedy. yang always said that autocrats will degrade in standards and the system goes to shit, and democracy is there so people can "vote" force that shit out of the system when it happens, and full on democracy only happens when no one can be trusted anymore and is a emergency answer that cant last forever as it will buckle under its own weight. he could have gone to reinhard, a so called good autocrat, and tried making a system together that is on the sweet spot between autocracy and democracy, but noooo the author had to wank one side and shit on the other after season 2. honestly fuck that shit civilization. Im glad they all died. yes there I said it.
>>65356 Most of the time the Alliance evolves into a nearly complete overreliance on Yang that is kinda an oxymoron for a "distributed" system of power.
>>65430 Great Man theory is possibly what Platonic aristocracy entails. Only chance few individuals who are both talented genetically and grow in ideal societal conditions improve conditions, the government doesn't matter at all for improving people's lives whether tyranny or democracy. At some point in the narrator pointed out the absurdity of how the dictatorship produced a more democratic outcome in their country


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