>>49603 I'll probably still need to take medication for the issue so it doesnt develop into something worse but I'll discuss with my doctor about it. Maybe I can do both...

Well I finally invested in a diaper pail. Gonna be between jobs for a bit as I prepare to move out of state. This may be my last time in a very long time where I can wear close to 24/7 so I'm planning on taking advantage of it as best as I can. I live with my mom and tend to wear cutsey jammies that reveal the diaper if you look hard enough so this should be an interesting next few weeks. Any advice would be much appreciated. I'm excited for this!

>>49495 It means a lot that you were willing to listen. Thanks, anon.

>>49930 Same to you.

Not really going 24/7 but this is close enough >Trying to get used to sleeping in diapers >After months trying I go a whole night without feeling any discomfort >wet naturally without effort >Feel the mattress wet soon after >PANIC >all night diaper wasn't able to hold my full bladder >remove bed covers and see the wet spot >not that big can wait until morning >return to sleep

>>50011 After doing this for almost twenty years, I wet almost every night. I will frequently leak, at least two or three times per month. Usually the leaks are small, but occasionally its bad enough to need correction. I usually wear Megamax, they're the most consistent with a fair price point. My last month average output is about 2.1 liters per night, but ranged from 1.5l to 3.2l. I weigh every morning diaper; but do not use dry nights in calculation of my average. Anyway... I have two complete sets of sheets on my bed. When it is really bad I just strip the top set and go back to bed. The base layer is a waterproof breathable mattress protector. I have a high-end mattress that is remarkably comfortable and was crazy expensive, I want to make sure it lasts a good long time. On top of that is disposable pads, usually two Goodnights pads. If not Goodnights, will use regular store brands or other pads, but I always use two and will tape or glue them together so the mattress is completely covered side to side with no gap. I put a regular sheet on over that. On top of the sheet I put another couple of pads, like the first layer. And then I put another sheet. This second layer gets stripped in the middle of the night whenever I leak so badly that it keeps me up, though it has to be pretty bad at this point. I could practically sleep in an actual puddle, I think. For what it is worth, I have tried every diaper ever boasting about their 10l+ capacity and have yet to find one that won't leak after 3l. At 2.5l to 3l, every diaper is 100% wet from edge to edge, top to bottom.

>>50016 you're on another level, respect I just got some mattress protectors the damage was low and is already dry. I'm going to be more careful, don't want my mattress smelling. >Megamax Not available here. I use heavy duty medical diapers and they work well enough for the price it's just the all night diapers that aren't reliable >3l diapers I'd love to try that, could last the whole day for me or at least close to that

>>48096 Switched to wearing BetterDry during the week too and different type of booster and this seems to have given me more confidence to wet during the night. Earlier I always clearly woke up to wet, but in the recent nights I have only had vague memories. Hopefully this was the missing link stopping me from progressing towards bedwetting.

>>50020 >you're on another level, respect No, not really. Incontinence is something I like. I feel like a need was fulfilled. It does make you need to change how you live your life though. > I use heavy duty medical diapers and they work well enough for the price it's just the all night diapers that aren't reliable >3l diapers > I'd love to try that, could last the whole day for me or at least close to that Not sure where you are, but if you are in Europe, you can look at several companies for supplies that perform well. My go to when I lived in Germany was Save Express - those folks are amazing and helped me many times. When I lived in the UAE, it was a problem though. I could get daytime diapers easy at most pharmacies (usually, Attends 10), but diapers that could last all night were a big problem. I took to hot glue, Pampers, and the Attends to make some sort of Frankenstein-diaper. Don't laugh ... it did the job.

>>49613 Yeah i do a lot of this already but I need to get precheck... Last time explaining was a doozy because I kept saying "it's a brief" to each agent before the head guy came over and I had to finally say "diaper". Retards working at TSA

Maybe this could be its own thread, I don't know. I decided to do the math on how many years I've actually been "out of diapers". I figure that in a given year, almost all potty-trained adult wear exactly 0 diapers, so I count any year where I wore diapers at all. It really rewires my brain a little bit to know that I'm 30 and that I've only spent 12 years wearing normal underwear. Can I really say that I should be wearing boxers when I've already spent 2/3rds of my life diapered? Try it yourself if you want.

>>50462 Let's see, I wore diapers/pullups at night time until I was 4ish. Then, when I was 10 I realized I wanted to wear diapers again and biked to the store to buy some. I'm 33 now and have worn at least once a year since then so I've only been fully "out of diapers" for like 6 years by your metric lol. A lot of that time I was in living situations that made it difficult to wear as much as I wanted though and I would always go through the binge/purge cycle. The past few years though I've started wearing a lot more and have been thinking a lot about going 24/7 soon.

>>50471 That's 27 years of some diapers and only 6 years diaper-free. I think if you told someone you're thinking about 24/7 and gave them those stats, they would hardly be surprised

>>50147 Still working on bedwetting, still in almost the same position. I can easily wet only on my stomach, other positions require a lot of pushing. I only wet while consiscous, though I usually wake up multiple times per night to wet, some rare nights I wet while falling asleep and wake up with a full bladder. I had a month of summer vacation during which my sleep was very inconsistent, and I didn't have the usual alarm on to make sure I wake up to wet during the night. I am now back at work, so my sleep is much more consistent, and I've set the alarm again to wake me up to wet. I also have an audio track playing on loop of a few hours that has a louder part of water being poured in it in hopes of creating an urge and tickling my consiscousness to wet.

>>52173 Some incredible progress has been made. I've finally figured out how to properly relax my muscles, and I can wet laying down without having to push at all. I do have to make some consiscous effort to get the muscles to relax, but it's getting easier and easier. While earlier it felt like I was fighting an uphill battle and did question if I'll ever actually become a bedwetter, now it seems a true possibility if I keep going.

>>44153 I remember, that 4o usually used to refuse to help in that, but now I've checked GPT-5, and it give me (not so specified) plan, without hesitation. But for the context, it knows, that I'm 24/7 abdl, and it's set to be more encouraging.

>Do you wear 24/7, if so, how long? 5 years, since I was 25 >What got you interested in 24/7, and more generally ABDL? Do you consider yourself leaning towards AB or DL especially? It started when I was 11 or 12, but I think diapers have always been something interesting to me. When I was 13, I discovered the whole ABDL community, which was quite fascinating because I learned that there were more people like me. Since then, wearing diapers 24/7 has been my dream, but I never thought it would ever come true. Clearly DL at the beggining slowly became both AB and DL i equal parts, but with diaper as necessary. My 24/7 journey started in march 2020. Few weeks before that I moved out from my mom and could finally wear diapers more freely. And when pandemic started and I was sent to work remotelly, it just happened. I put on a diaper, when I came back from work one day, and stayed diapered since then with almost no break. >Do you want to untrain? How will you/have you done so? Yes. And there of course is some progress in those 5 years. In most situations I don't really think about peeing anymore. I usually feel an urge and a second later my bladder let it go. I've also developed a certain reflex - what standing next to a balcony window in my apartment, I pee practically involuntarily, unless my bladder is empty. It's really hard to hold it, which tells me, that reflex is a key to untraining, but unfortunetelly, I don't know how develop such reflex in other conditions. There are olso things I still want to change/improve: 1. Bedwetting (happens only ocasionally 2. Wetting while very focused on something - talking with someone, reading, work usually still makes my more "trained" 3. Mental block to wet when I'm afraid of diaper leakage. >Who knows you wear 24/7? No one, I suppose >If you untrained, do you honestly regret it? How has your mood about it progressed since you started? As I mentioned above, I have made some progress in untraining, and I do not regret it.

Anyone else got overactive bladder and hate the idea of meds, surgery, and those kegel stretches? I think I could easily justify being diapered 24/7 due to OAB, but I still feel like maybe I should tell myself something that it's okay to mess in them, too.

>>53210 >Anyone else got overactive bladder and hate the idea of meds, surgery, and those kegel stretches? Never okay to mess in public. That's just gross, the people around you didn't sign up to be part of your fetish. I am incontinent, but UI only. Mine is OAB with interstitial cystitis and resulting in urge incontinence. The OAB and IC make painful spasms and inevitably my bladder reflex kicks in and releases the flood gate. On top of that I have BPH with can actually help with control but if the spasms get too forceful, even if I can control the reflex, I get overflow. So at this point I don't want surgery but if it meant I would have no more pain and spasms I would get today.

I have recently been wearing the new goodnite xxls every day at work. And when i get home i change into an m4. Took me till the end of the week to make me realize i just did 24/7. I only realized when i wasn't wearing and got a little too relaxed and dribbled a little.

>>52958 Last couple of nights I have seen dreams where I have peed. One dream was very vivid, where I had a desperate urge and I pissed myself while running for a toilet. Sadly after waking up, I noticed I hadn't peed in real life. The other night I remember being awoken to the urge, then falling to a half-asleep state where I dreamed of peeing, then waking back up noticing I'm not actually peeing, and again falling back to a dreamlike state where I felt like peeing. Both times I did have to consiscously wet while awake, but it seems like another step closer to true bedwetting.

Recently I started wearing 24/7, I normally just wear some goodnites at night because I tend to dribble but I started wearing my megamaxes full time and for the first time this morning I woke up with a full wetting. Kinda happy actually.

Anyone got tips for overseas travel long term travel? Heading out of the country for 2 weeks. I've done many short term trips (~3-5 days) for work and can fit all my diapers, boosters, diaper covers, and adaptive clothing in a carry on. But bringing enough diapers in a check-in doesn't seem feasible. What has eveyrone else tried? I'm debating on just bringing enough Sunkiss for each day and then try to buy the LivDry booster system in japan for all day/night protection. Unsure how it'll go though. Still feels like I'll need a check in.

>>56253 I studied abroad in Japan and wore 24/7. ABU has a branch out there. When I was there at least, the stock was relatively easy to get shipped to my student housing. I'm sure there are ways to get products shipped to hotels as well. I packed an entire suitcase that I was going to bring back with other stuff full of diapers. That got me through the first week while I waited on stuff to arrive. Biggest thing in Japan is there are just not a lot of trash cans. I highly suggest carrying around those smell proof bags, especially for changing after you mess. Other than that, public restrooms seemed to always have a private enough place for wall changes and my university had a goated changing room. For the people who are jerking off to this, yes, two of my friends did find out. I had killed all semblance of potty training by that point and genuinely medically needed them. I would not recommend the LivDry option personally, but if it's the only option it's better than nothing. If you can afford a trip overseas, you can afford a few hundred in diapers for your trip. I think its the wiser option and frankly just feeling confident and not stressing is worth it.

>>56253 >Anyone got tips for overseas travel long term travel When I travel for up to a month, I always bring enough diapers with me. This might take two or three large duffel bags. If you are traveling from the USA you have the benefit of the American's with Disabilities laws. Airlines cannot charge you for bags that contain only medically necessary supplies. You have to declare them at check in, they may be searched by the agent to verify. They cannot contain non-medically necessary items. They are subject to weight and size limits (and overage fees if too heavy and/or too big). This is true for all USA airlines. I've also been able to use this exception in the EU. If you claim to be incontinent at check in, diapers are necessary "medical supplies". In the EU though you can also buy good diapers and easily. Someone posted this in another thread: >>55711 >I spent the first three months of the year in Germany. As someone who's bladder incontinent, packing enough supplies was non-negotiable for any trip. I flew out from the US with about two or three weeks worth from NorthShore Supreme for day and Megamax for night. Supremes are hands-down my go-to for days out; they absorb a lot and spread things out so nothing sags or leaks on me. >Europe has solid alternatives, so I didn't overpack - just enough until I could restock. My first orders were from Amazon.de. Tried Molicare for both day and night. Wasn't thrilled with night performance, they soaked through to my sheets a few times in the first week. The night slips were a bust after dark but held up okay during the day if I changed regularly. Tried the Molicare Premium elastic too, and they were comfy enough and wicked moisture away nicely, but gave a rash on my thighs. >Picked up some Seni Quatros from Amazon as well—those were solid for daytime action, super absorbent. But the tapes? Total garbage. They'd break off after an hour or so, and one time I had one sliding down my leg mid-stride while hunting for a bathroom. Ended up slapping duct tape over the edges to keep 'em in place under my pants. They also gave me a rash - which is why I don't like the 'cloth-like' covers and prefer plastic backing only. Gave the leftovers away because of the hassle. >The family I crashed with knew about my situation and pointed me to a local company called Save Express (www.saveexpress.de), not far from where I was staying. The folks there were awesome and after I laid out my concerns, and they hooked me up with samples at a fair price for local pickup. Tested a bunch: Attends (way better than the US version), Tena, Abena, Venixe, a different Molicare (the Maxi Slip), and more. All worked fine for days, no major issues. >They stocked InControl BeDry Nights too, and those were great. Zero leaks, even after a drinking myself to oblivion. I woke up the next morning and the diaper weighed over 3 kg, but the bed stayed dry. They had NorthShore Megamax as well, but I switched to the BeDrys for a bit since I'd never tried before. BetterDry Night was another option they have and that fit me great. They perform okay most nights. Megamax and BeDry never failed me, but BetterDry leaked a couple times a month, so I skipped them for this trip. >For daytime, I ended up loving the plastic backed Abena. Reliable and no chafing on my thighs from all the walking we did (I dropped 10 pounds eating like a king and pounding beers daily). Gave the BetterDry Day ones a shot too; comfy as hell, but a few split right up the back one after another. No leaks, but the fluff and sap went everywhere. >Wanted to sample more brands, but at 5-10 changes a day, I had way too much leftover. Donated leftovers to a local care home and some to friends of the peeps I stayed with. If you're heading to the EU, Save Express and Amazon have good choices.

catheters scare me due to potential infection and having to reach so far into the urethra, I just want something that keeps me from completely clenching/closing my outer muscles because I want to pee more freely while padded but I have a shy bladder and I struggle heaps to pee while lying down, would this help with significant less risk of fucking something inside of me?

>>56258 >>56281 Where are the best places to pick up incontinence supplies in Japan? The Pharmacy? Also does ABU have a location in Tokyo or is it shipment only? I remember LoveMerci in Akihibara selling single ABU diapers at like $8-15/diaper... I don't mess so I'm not worried. But from the LivDry option, I'm talking about these specifically. I was planning to pick up the Hyper2400 which is quoted at 95 oz apparently From my understanding, japan has multiple bathroom options to disposal so I'm not too worried honestly. My main issue with bringing so much incontinence gear is needing a large check-in luggage to accommodate 36 diapers plus clothes. I was hoping to only bring my carry-on and travel backpack. Judging from my estimations, I can fit ~16 Sunkiss/Megamax Diapers+boosters, plus enough clothes for 4-5 days with plans to wash them at hotels when I can.

>>56294 This won't do anything. You have 2 muscles that regulate urine output. The internal urethral sphincter and the detrusor muscle, both are located far deeper than this penetrates. Your best non-surgical route is to practice reverse kegals/pelvic floor drops. The only true way to have no feeling is surgical excision or ablation of the muscle plus potentially the prostate. There's a few that have done this on the DailyDiapers Forum. A temporary option is Botox, but you will have to keep getting injections. Success rate seems to be 50-50 Regardless, to get the aforementioned treatments, you would need to seek a urologist who diagnoses you with some sort of pre-existing incontinence like Urge or stress or overflow incontinence.

>>56326 thank you for the information anon, I am feeling kind of down lately and for some reason my brain nudges me into the reasoning of "if you get to experience incontinence for a while you wont be sad anymore"

>>56326 could you use a foley catheter to stretch the internal urethral sphincter by inflating it right on it?

>>56357 Balloon filling pressure for urethral dilation is about 6 to 12 atmospheres (90 to 180 psi). Burst pressure for a typical Foley catheter is approximately 0.16 to 0.26 atmospheres (2.3 psi to 3.9 psi). >could you use a foley catheter to stretch the internal urethral sphincter by inflating it right on it? No, and don't try this unless you want a visit with a urologist to check for and remove bits of broken balloon. Urethral dilation is a common procedure in urology, they use a specialized high pressure catheter that is longer and holds far higher pressures without bursting. A Foley catheter can only withstand about 2 to 4 psi maximum, but a dilation catheter will typically see 90 to 180 psi. https://goldstandardurology.org/common-conditions/urethral-dilation/ >>56324 >Where are the best places to pick up incontinence supplies in Japan? Well, Google is your friend who helps with this type of search, but Japan has a robust adult diaper market. Adult diapers outsell baby diapers in the country. I think pharmacies, supermarkets, and others stores will carry them. There are also several AB/DL outlets. https://fortune.com/2024/03/28/japans-population-old-diaper-manufacturer-oji-holdings-adults-babies/ https://www.babys-angels.com/

>>56364 cheapest was 180 a bit on the expensive side about 300 when taking 12 ATM of max pressure. the other issue is the inflate sizing only going to 18fr or 20fr which is kinda normal. I am not into sounding but that seems a better route than this. Wonder if they have issues with incontinence ((people who use urethral sounds).

>>56294 Just drink some booze, it should loosen your ability to hold right up.

>>56294 Really, really should not use catheters if not medically needed. Way more likely to get a UTI shoving something in there than just wearing diapers and cleaning yourself well after use. Even in medical settings they try to avoid and minimize use of urinary catheters as much as possible because of the risk of complications from sticking something in there. >>56357 Don't inflate stuff in your urethra. As other Anon said if it bursts that's an embarrassing visit to a urologist to get the pieces removed. Thrombosis is also an issue, especially if not knowing what you're doing. Facepalming at some of the very obviously stupid and dangerous stuff people do for a fetish. Same thing in the messing thread of people mentioning stuff risking bowel perforation, infection, and rectal trauma. Don't be one of those people who has to go to doctor because of doing something stupid while horny. Not even just ABDL, look up various things doctors have had to pull out of people because of weird sex stuff. >>56410 Agreed. Other diuretics like caffeine may work too. If benzo are available those work too, just don't mix them with other sedatives.

>>56410 From my own experience I'd say it is extremely rare for people apart from long time alcoholics to piss themselves when sleeping drunk, and even for drunkards it's not that common. Anyone I've ever been absolutely shitfaced with and slept in the same location has never pissed themselves, and I've only heard one person tell a story about a chick who pissed themselves after passing out, and seen one hobo passed out mid day in a train station piss their pants.

>>56680 He's not saying to drink enough to get shitfaced and piss yourself while passed out or become an alcoholic. Alcohol is a diuretic, muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic even at low amounts. All those will help ease a shy bladder The point here is to make it easier to pee, not get drunk enough to pee involuntarily. Depending on the person only one to a few drinks would be more than enough for this. Same reason >>56417 suggested caffeine (diuretic) or benzos (muscle relaxant and anxiolytic) to help with shy bladder. Shy bladder is even a common symptom with anxiety disorders which benzos are used to treat. Alcohol and benzos have similar sedative, muscle relaxant, anti-anxiety effects and are cross tolerant because they hit a lot of the same receptors. That and benzos having a much longer half life is why they're used to wean heavy alcoholics off booze without sending them into withdrawals or DTs too.