>>511270
>You keep saying that like it was ever a thing, it never was. People who are WN don't care about Christianity or are Christian. It is totally unrelated. Why would there be secular WN? It's pointless infighting in dire times.
secular doesn't mean irreligious, it means non-religious. when I say "secular white nationalism", I mean white nationalism where Christianity is unrelated to it, as you are saying
>There are people who are WN and pagans, there will always be overlap with different groups. Tying yourself to one simply decreases viability. There's also overlap between WN and enjoying nature, do you also want to turn it into a Christian-WN-Pagan-Gardening movement? WN is enough to be it's own thing, it's a broad tent.
how is it going to obtain political power, though?
>>511267
>There weren't tho, they won, look outside.
anti-racists won everywhere and they have to be fought everywhere, including within Christianity
>Once again you are tempering it, I want killing them to be on the table, maybe not first choice, but it needs to be there. Also I want to begin recolonising the world after we save Europe.
I don't disagree but there is a such thing as the 'Overton Window' and from where we are now, we need a viable first destination to get the inertia going. pro-White Christian Nationalism could be a step on the way to William Luther Pierce type stuff. idk how you would even get there otherwise, the masses of unthinking nigger cattle aren't ready for it
>Well exactly you are tempering the message because of the beliefs of Christians despite you knowing it correct. And I do agree with you that we shouldn't be repugnant in our messages by doing a BASED NA and screaming Hitler was right outside by the local post office. I agree we need to present good representatives, this does not mean they are required to be Christian.
but without Christianity, there's no logical reason not to go full Chuddopotamus rex Walshart avenger, and I think even stupid people can pick up on that
<wait so you're saying these people are worthless subhumans... so logically that must mean you want to kill them? sorry, I can't get behind that
so you have to include a religious reason for why that's off the table to make normal people comfortable with the idea of being racist. we have to look at our target demographic, create a product that they will find palatable (things that they already would agree with- white people should not be exterminated, the 2% minority of evil Jews should not run the government/everything, we should have moral values and a pro-family culture, etc.), and market it to them
>We can not put breed them, they are fucking vermin, it's a losing battle. We have to win with quality, quantity was never on our side and never will be.
it's not that we can outbreed them, it's that white birthrates are far below replacement so our population is dropping in absolute numbers, as well as the percentage of the population due to the invaders. I agree that the presence of the invaders is the existential crisis, without which low birthrates wouldn't be as big of a problem, but we do still want there to be as many white people as possible and right now there are not nearly enough being born
>I think it's performative LARP for the most part, Christianity is dead. Or maybe the US is different and when you walk into church it's dominated by white boys but I doubt it.
I live in a relatively irreligious region, but from what I've heard, there is a resurgence of Christianity and right-wing views in general among young white men. how could that not be the case, with how gay things are? things have deviated so far from normalcy that the ones that were born into it are craving something healthy/normal for a change. although, this phenomenon seems heavily skewed by sex, with young males becoming more right-wing/religious and young females doubling down on being feminist cunts (which in turn radicalizes the boys further). that is actually the recipe for removing women's rights, which is one of the most important things we need to do. like at the end of the day, women do not get an opinion and we need to physically grab them regardless of their consent
>So a mutt runs WN in the USA in your view?
that is factually true, yes. he's like 7/8ths white, looks white with light eyes, at least
>Also, let's pretend he has made WN take off with the youth like you said, where's the paramilitaries that run drugs? Where are the local WN political candidates? Spic Fuentes, has make kids WN, society has, being around niggers and spics has made white kids racist. Not some spicy LARPing. How does he onboard these kids them? Because he's not the first in the line of influencers, there's a pipeline to this and there are early figures that put them on this path. Influencers like Carl of Swindon did more to convert the kids by beginning the journey even if he's a grifting liberal cunt.
well he does a news show and has a twitter and has a large following and many connections to powerful/influential people. and he uses these followers to influence social media, as well as do 'Groyper Wars' against political opponents that do live events, like Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk runs Turning Point USA, which is the dominant 'Young Republicans' organization operating on college campuses. years ago, Nick got his followers to go ask him questions (when he solicits questions from the audience) about why he supports Israel, homosexuality, shitskins, etc., which exposes him as a fraud to the audience which is right wing young people. this is a huge problem for them because now every time they do in person events, which is basically the thing that they do, they live in fear of getting groyped and they need quick answers for everything despite being objectively wrong
>Carl of Swindon
never heard of him. Nick's clips are everywhere on TikTok/Instagram, which are the apps that the young people use
>>511271
the isn't really a counterargument to the 'most white people in the US that are being born are being born to Christian families, so that's what we have to work with' claim. also I'm not bald, it's just my hairline that went back a bit, but it's better now due to fin/min/microneedling