>>13110 Sometimes the evil Supes are well thought out. Sometimes they're not. To me, it all depends on where they're trying to go with their "evil Superman" fan characters. >>13140 Gone are the days of kid's cartoons pushing the bar/winking at adults in the room with their subtle adult humor. It's all got to be watered down and chock full of morals like promoting equality, the LGBT narrative, and all that other nonsense to shove down the viewer's throat. >>13151 I'm thinking anon is referring to adult animated cartoons, which are somewhat like that. >>13151

>>13110 I cant stand the deconstructed shit either. In fact I can't even consider watching that sort of thing given the One Punch Man exist which perfectly deconstructs capeshit AND shonen and then immediately reconstructs it and distills it back down to something great. >>13114 If you think about it Brightburn is just Dragonball if Goku hadn't fallen on his head.

>>13151 >Or are you going to tell me you want more Harley Quinn the series? I was having a good day until you mentioned that VB knockoff riddled with STD, thanks.

>>13116 >No no he has to kill his enemies, including the innocent babies of his dying race, That doesn't happen. He has the DNA of his dying race and refuses to terraform earth and conquer it so he can reseed it with that DNA. Very different from killing babies.

>>13285 The babies were literally growing in the machine as he destroys it.

>>13288 >The babies were literally growing in the machine as he destroys it. So you're saying that the 80's Predator has more respect for innocent life than Snyder Superman does? Fucking wonderful. I hope Discovery puts DC in the media oubliette. At least movie/tv DC anyway.

>>13289 All Discovery is going to do is have the heroes and villains fighting and shouting amongst themselves. Workplace conflict will be the theme for it all.

>>13289 Yep. Paul Blart 1 & 2 does more to show how Blart is not a killer than Zack Snyder does for Superman.

>>13171 >uppity black gets punished for stepping to a human I fully endorse this version of Superiorman

>>13171 >wall-eyed on the cover gr8 start

>>13110 >Development and progress on the characters. <Next clip. >It all resets and pretend that never happened. <Writers are still flexing they're Harvard's graduates. Can you guess the show's name?

>>13364 Futurama?

>>13110 I don't mind if others do these kind of stories. I do mind that they're doing it with movie Superman - the version of the character that gets the most exposure. In 10 years, normies will probably think this is what Superman's character is like (if they don't already).

>>13569 Normies already do. There's way too fucking many normalnigger snyder cultists on twitter that worship the ground he walks on.

>>13570 >Normies Its normalfag ya fucking retard.

>>13573 Shut up faggot.

>>13576 Don't use Cuckchan talk if you don't want to be bullied.

>>13570 >>13573 >>13576 >>13592

>>13364 >the show will eventually reach 40 seasons ngl that's impressive.

>>13114 >People can't help but wonder what the kind of power in the wrong hands would be like. General Zod. These people just write these stories because they think it makes them smart.

>>13110 Many comic editorials fell into victimhood for this: >Continuity shits itself into an incoherent mess >Writer gains a fragile ego because of his league of yes-men once he struck gold <Goes full on Chris Chan mocking anyone who questions his retarded logic <Questions why comics will never be real literature >>13140 Only lewd stuff is allowed as long the trannies get their hands on it and come out with the most disgusting shit that only cater to their terminal online kind.

>>13594 Gainax died for this >>40166 When the majority of episodes is just slop for the consumers just to keep their mouths shut.

>>40167 >People can't help but wonder what the kind of power in the wrong hands would be like. >General Zod. And by my count, we have at least four versions of General Zod in the mainstream DCU, as well as four Ultramans, and four Bizarros. Plus all the other Phantom Zone criminals, and the occasional villain who is a Daxamite or some other alien that just has extremely similar powers to Superman. Or stories where a guy like Parasite steals Superman's powers. Plus other alt-universe Supermans like Overman. I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty of other examples. When they just have Superman and call him Superman but make him evil, and don't even make a reference to Ultraman, it tells me they're just casuals who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And yes, I know about The Justice Lords, and that version was pretty good, but Injustice and the other stories OP is complaining about are not that. They're just for idiots who think they're doing an original concept even though it was first done in like 1963, if not earlier. Hell, Siegel and Schuster's original Superman was a villain, before they ever came up with Clark Kent. But he was at least different enough that, fine, I won't count it. But that's me being generous.

>>13110 I think the concept of a "trope" in itself needs to fucking die. Ever since normalfags and REddit midwits learned that word the quality of media discourse went from rock bottom to fast tunneling to the planet's core.

>>13142 Ironically that could be considered an outdated trope since it was rooted on gender segregated schools: >Men were being taught on rough experiences >Women were being taught on trivial shit Apparently knowing how to cook, sew and laundry is rocket science while building houses, plumbing or electricity is plain hillbilly caveman acknowledge. There's the fact that women manipulate emotionally to get what they want, apparently that's considered worthy of a chess-master.

>>40175 They used to just be called cliches but I blame TVTropes for fagging up the discourse.

You have talk the exact same shit for like 3 years

>>40181 It's like the entertainment geniuses stagnate into mediocrity and refuse to improve, always go for the easy path and gain their rock bottom redditors to defend their pretentious hour and half commercials.

>>40193 This it's not going to stop or change, not anymore

>I have evidence that will prove I was framed & who the guilty parties are! I won't make any copies whatsoever or share it with the public, I will instead haul the only physical copy with me to show to someone who is my friend but thinks I am guilty, to prove to them I am innocent! >Oh shit they brought their allies along & now my only copy of this evidence was destroyed before anyone could see it! It's a cheap manner to artificially extend the story.

>>13364 >character backstories set in certain era >series lasts & lasts but characters never age >has to backpedal & retcon backstories to a later era to make up for it Or just >series goes on for a long time but no one ages

>>40249 >>13364 >Simpsons has gone on for so long that Homer has been retconned into being born at the time Bart would have been when the series first aired. >Grandpa Simpson went from being a WW1 vet to a WW2 vet, to now almost replacing Skinner as the Vietnam vet. >Skinner might get retconned into being a fucking Gulf War or even 2003 Iraq war vet What happens when you don't let shows die.

>>40270 >>40249 They could have dealt with this by just making Springfield permanently 1990s in a sort of Brigadoon fashion with the world around them going on as usual. Like that would be the easiest way to deal with this kind of situation in general. Where's there's change from outside that leaks in in bits but the foundation is static in time. Why does no one ever do this?

>>40295 >Why does no one ever do this? A few reasons I can think of. It restricts the writers in what they can make an episode about. Due to the show eternally taking place in the 1990's, they cannot make any references or direct simularities to events, people, content that has been made since 2000. So any "recent" jokes about Batman would be in regards to the Batnipples instead of Baneposting. Only two Jurassic Park movies exist. There never was a nigger president. The WTC towers never fell. The only game console that can connect to the internet is the Sega Dreamcast. VHS tapes were still in widespread use. You get the idea. It doesn't matter if Springfield is the only place that exists in the 1990's because that still requires an entirely different mindset compared to literally everywhere else. They probably could keep up the charade for the first decade of the Aughts, but you'd end up getting farther and farther removed from the original material to where writing about the 1990's in the 2010's would feel almost alien. Not to mention that you then encounter the problem of not trying to repeat the same story that you already did years ago. Another reason is that people tend to have some sort of "pride" over living in the 2020's compared to 30 years ago despite the fact that very little has quite honestly changed. Drop someone from the 1990's into the 2020's and they wouldn't be that impressed with modern tech. Yes, we have toys like the smartphone, but they would just see it as the natural evolution of the PDA. Yes, you can instantly buy something from anywhere in the world and have it shipped directly to your front door, but Apple was already heavily advertising the internet and e-commerce with the iMac back in 1998. Yes, they would be blown away by how amazingly "real" computers can generate graphics, but they still lack the quality of practical effects and video games are an even more of a hollow shell. So the one hand is that you have people who have increasingly little attachement to the original work as people eternally change, and the other is a spiralling depression that society really hasn't evolved over the past 30 years.

>>40249 >>has to backpedal & retcon backstories to a later era to make up for it The smart thing to do is just not acknowledge it and let the audience just roll with it. If I watch The Simpsons and I see that Bart was a baby when the finale of MASH was airing, I can understand that Bart is ten years old and the episode took place (with its framing device) in 1993, so when they flashed back to ten years ago it was 1983. An episode from a year later takes place in 1994, and I can accept that characters haven't aged a year just because a year has passed for me. This isn't hard to grasp, and it takes a very particular form of autism to be autistic enough to be bothered by it but not autistic enough to not be able to figure it out. Also, I find it funny that people bring it up in reference to The Simpsons. I get it, because The Simpsons is popular, but it's also a show where the story doesn't matter very much. You don't have to worry about the fact that Grampa fought in WWI, then WWII, then WWII but he was only a baby who lied about his age, because it's just occasional jokes now and then. It would be a lot worse if it was a show that expected you to follow continuity. Like they did the episode in like 2009 where they flash back to the '90s, before Bart was born, and yes it's silly, but I don't see why people had to get up in arms about it. Good episode? No. But it's not hard to wrap your head around what they were doing. On the other hand, you have comics where characters have backstories intricately tied with WWII, and they do expect you to actually appreciate that and think about it a lot. I appreciate that by the '90s they did actually start killing off a lot of the Justice Society and All-Star Squadron guys (really this started in the '70s and '80s), even if mostly the less popular ones. But then they tried to pull magic sci-fi shit to keep the popular ones alive. Then they had Alan Scott come out of the closet when he was literally 100 years old, in-universe. So yeah, would have been better to let him die back with Madame Fatale or whatever. Also it's even more fucked since they wanted others like Superman and Batman to still be young, but then that's a whole thing particular to DC being retarded. >>40270 >>Simpsons has gone on for so long that Homer has been retconned into being born at the time Bart would have been when the series first aired. If Bart was 10 when the first Simpsons short aired in 1987, then he'd be born in 1977. Homer's age has actually increased over time, he has technically aged, but he's always been in his 30s. Let's say he's 40 now (I haven't watched in over ten years, so maybe he's aged more, not that I want to count the new episodes). That would mean he was born in 1984. Current Homer was born at least 7 years after original Bart. >>40295 Nobody does that because it's too autistic. You think it's simpler, but it's not. The simplest thing is to just not acknowledge it, or if you do ever acknowledge it, only rarely and jokingly. When you're dealing with a sitcom, especially a cartoon one that rarely relies on continuity, that makes sense. Drawing attention to small details, even in attempts to fix them, can often make things worse than just ignoring them. To go back to my Justice Society example, what's really simpler? Alan Scott being de-aged by his magic ring, and by being trapped in alternate dimensions for millennia, and by fighting time travellers like Per Degaton, all to try to keep it "making sense" that he fought in WWII, or is it simpler just to have Superman, who started fighting crime "about 15 years ago" relative to whenever the current story takes place? Drawing attention to it makes it a lot more confusing in most cases. I am precisely the type of person to get autistic over details like this, but the fact that I'm autistic enough to understand them is why I understand why you shouldn't always acknowledge them. Actually, I just remembered the best example, Sonic the Hedgehog comics. Why is Sonic an anthropomorphic animal if Robotnik and others are humans? The games just don't acknowledge it. It's a cartoon, and in this cartoon, some people are animals. The comics did acknowledge it. They said that the games take place in the far distant future, and in our near-future, nuclear war wipes out humanity, then out of the new primordial ooze, anthropomorphic animals like Sonic evolved, and so did cartoony-looking humans like Robotnik, and the realistic-looking humans (actually anime-looking) from some other Sonic games were descendants of survivors who hid under a mountain for millions of years. Now is that really better than just not acknowledging it at all, and trusting your audience to understand that it's a cartoon? I personally don't think so.

>>40299 >>40299 >Only two Jurassic Park movies exist. >There never was a nigger president. >The WTC towers never fell. >The only game console that can connect to the internet is the Sega Dreamcast. >VHS tapes were still in widespread use. God how I want to go back.