>>51806 You can tell Zootopia went through multiple revisions, the world building is unbelievably fucked. Had it not been for furries and women being easily pleased, it would have been forgotten as quickly as Elemental or Wish. There's such a simple fix, too. Instead of prey and predator, the racism metaphor should have been done through a herbivore and carnivore split. Have the main plot be about the two sides making peace and how eating meat from a sapient species is seen as a ginormous taboo. On top of that, each species has its distinct quirks which may or not play into each side's respective stereotypes (carnivores are dumb, strong savages, herbivores are weak but clever pacifists). Judy and Nick are living subventions who embody what Zootopia is all about. Also, Judy only becomes a cop because of DEI shit pushed by the lion mayor (she becoming a cop could be a movie on its own, really). She's not taken seriously by the big, tough cops (herbivores and carnivores alike) because tiny bun. Something something women in the workforce metaphor, something something unbroken persistence. They go after the lion mayor, thinking he's a carnivore who wants to return to the good old days. The big reveal is that the lion genuinely believes in a peaceful coexistence. It's the sheep that wants a race war. The sheep is making a drug that'll make carnivores go feral because she also got bullied for being a herbivore but unlike Judy she never got over it. Throw in a Monsters's University lesson about Judy dealing with the fact that she'll always be a tiny bun and can't be as fast as a cheetah or as strong as an ox but that doesn't mean she doesn't have something to offer. Something something tiny bun fits through vents and is clever just like fox. She saves the town and the big, tough cops now respect her.

>>51829 Beastars isn't a story about the world or changing it. Ultimately it's a love story in a world where they can't be together for things they can't control. The world just serves to show why. Of course Zootopia 2 is going to be another "racism bad" story. But I just know it's going to be a misunderstanding story where the hooded figure in the teaser is the real culprit but puts the blame on the snake for some crime.

>>51774 >reptile arc KINO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjkIOU5PhyQ I'm calling it now: - Snake is "le poor wholesome immigrant" - Horse is "literally Trump who wants to build a WALL"

>>55264 >>55266 This definitely looks like the snake is going to be a ham fisted immigrant metaphor. It makes me think they're doubling down on certain political stuff now because the execs made them get rid of the more obvious gay stuff in Elio and Inside Out 2 after repeated unprofitable bombs.

>>55562 How would you write the snake character?

>>55665 super star that gets filmed swallowing a chicken's egg.

>>51773 This entire series is such a ginormous waste of potential, only carried by its art direction. It perfectly demonstrates how even a garbage script can be salvaged by marketable cartoon characters and a superficial take on serious themes to appease the "I wanna watch this cartoon but I don't wanna be made fun of" crowd.

>>55778 >This entire series What do you mean "series"? It's just the two movies. Right?

>>55792 If it has tie ins it can be considered a series. Besides, it's obvious that Disney's gonna milk this concept to death.

>>55794 I dunno. Last movie Disney ever made an animated series out of was Tangled and that was ages ago by now.

>>55665 >How would you write the snake character? Mysterious security guard.

>>55792 If you want to accept the abortion comic as canon.

>>55964 Don't forget the JFK one.

>>55973 Back, and to the left...

>>51773 How the hell are they going to one-up getting away with a fucking nudist colony scene in a "PG" movie?

>>56055 Too bad the snake isn't a girl.

>>56445 That has never stopped furries (or scalies or what have you).

>>56452 I don't care about fag snakes.

>>56445 YES. You get it.

>>56488 Good snek toon porn is rare. Most of it is fucking vore. I need more.

>>55562 >Zootopia is now some kind of psuedo-White nationalist state that keeps the undesirable reptilians out out They did the same thing with Hotel Transylvania. They had one ham-fisted message of tolerance in the first, then another that almost contradicts the message of the first in the second.

new trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AwtptT8X8k

>>57227 Snake is missing a fang there but not in the trailer. What's up with that?

>>57227 The whole "reptiles are mostly peaceful immigrants who dindu nuffin" is going to be pretty tone-deaf when it comes out. I'm reminded of a Latina vlogger I was watching the other day who was calling to close the border for the next 40 years and deport any immigrants who burn the American flag even if they're legal. I wonder how the writers would react to such a woman. They'd probably blue-screen. With the established trend of: >niggers = predatory mammals >illegal immigrants = reptiles What will faggots and/or trannies be in the 3rd one? Birds?

>>57233 >I wonder how the writers would react to such a woman. "She's surviving in a patriarchal, capitalistic society by being forced to adopt racist and eurocentric ideals, such as that those who are not white or male (whose suffering is different as they're born in an empowering place) gravitate towards antisocial behavior due to a naturalized, racist, socio-historic construct supported by the church, the state and medicine, as demonstrated by media (insert 1960s beauty magazine here). These institutions have normalized unfair power dynamics that are detrimental to oppressed groups, showcasing the necessity for more positive representations in media." t. deals with obnoxious activists on a semi-daily basis

>>57233 >What will faggots and/or trannies be in the 3rd one? Amphibians and/or other aquatic creatures due to how the sexual dynamics of those species are not as rigid as they are with land animals. Though I wonder how they retcon that shit since the trailer for the second film showcases them eating fish >Birds? Birds are more similar to reptiles

>>57230 They got plenty good concepts for many buddy cop duo plots why again with the previous movie whole racist theme it's just feels lazy.

>>57233 >What will faggots and/or trannies be in the 3rd one? Nick and Judy as the faggots as they are in a sick and unnatural relationship between herbivore and carnivore, and it's socially unacceptable for them to be together and illegal to get married. Probably are put in the position of having to hunt down a young herbivore-carnivore couple who's violating the law by getting secretly married. Bonus points if they make a big show at the climax of the movie about 'coming out' to the shock, horror, and eventual acceptance of the citizens of Utopia. What should the slur be for herbivores and carnivores who are romantically involved?

>>57256 >Probably are put in the position of having to hunt down a young herbivore-carnivore couple who's violating the law by getting secretly married.

>>57256 Carnivores, probably something like "meat fucker". Herbivores, maybe "predophile" and "predo", especially insulting because of what it sounds like. Can't really think of anything for both right now.

>>57300 >predophile

>>57300 >>57313 >Judy: Dad, I love him! >Judy's Dad: I don't remember raising my daughter to be some kind of.. >Judy: Some of what, Dad? >Dad: Some kinda predophile! >The tense ambiance stops, Judy's siblings and mother all gasp in wide eyed shock. The backing track is replaced with a somber tune. Judy's Dad looks around, his eyes filled with remorse as he's said something he can't take back. >Dad: Judy, wait. I didn't mean- >Judy, with tears brimming in her eyes: I know exactly what you mean, 'Dad'. >Judy storms out into the night as her father calls out her name in dismay one last time.