>>49583 Let's be honest, there's only one thing in this show that any of us even cares about now.

I stopped following this after it became clear it was a yaoi drama simulator. Anything interesting actually happen yet?

>>49620 >I stopped following this after it became clear it was a yaoi drama simulator. I'm going to assume you made that distinction with the Season 1 finale, sooooo... >Anything interesting actually happen yet? Well, the predictable happened: Stolas is disgraced, Octavia disowned him and he's now living with Blitzo. Oh and Millie's pregnant now. No, she is NOT taking it well and she has NOT told Moxxie yet.

>>49631 >>49620 Besides the completely clashing fanfiction using biblical & apocryphal lore to none of it's full potential, the problem with these VivziePop shows is what they focus on. It's ALL just crying about daddy issues, cheap relationship drama, pointless musical numbers for the sake of it, being some flavor of LGBTQP+, & cursing. No sense of pacing, maturity, or focus on plot. For either show. Vivzie is a bad showrunner.

>>49615 Speak for yourself I never cared about the bland Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse trying too hard to be lovy dovy relationship between Moxxie and Millie doesn't help that Millie has less personality than Minnie Mouse. For some time now my biggest interest in both Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel is to see just how TERRIBLE it will become while using forums to discuss how awful it is. The best part is that Helluva Boss is a free internet show on Youtube so watching it is easy as is discussing all the failings the show has. I would laugh at Viv if she suddenly transformed Helluva Boss into a Members Only type of show on Youtube meaning charging cash for the privilege of watching that badly written filth. It would ensure a faster failure. Anyway I just watch to see how horrible both Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel will become. And I think that's the opinion of most people especially given how the number of watchers keeps decreasing with each new episode. Anyone who remains merely watches to see how much of a trainwreck the whole series will become.

>>49620 Even if the characters were straight they are still exceedingly hateable. The show is betting on the formula of Bojack Horseman, South Park, Family Guy, etc. Basically... Our main characters are evil monsters but we want you to root for them and care about their melodrama issues! And how popular are things like Bojack Horseman or South Park in recent times. Think that people are finally growing tired of immoral main characters. Even Rick and Morty has lost some popularity because people just don't care about unrepentant bastards and cunts.

i just think they all should get fat

>>49636 >It's ALL just crying about daddy issues, The irony is that Viv said that she has a good relationship with her father. If her father saw her shows he would probably disown her since she keeps insulting fatherhood. And it doesn't help that in some cases you get examples like Charlie and Lucifer where these two did not speak to each other for YEARS without fighting each other and the big plot twist when they reunite is.....Lucifer always loved his daughter. There was no fight, no disagreement, no anger between them. There was no substance to said "daddy issues" in that subplot. At least in the pilot it was implied Lucifer outright ridiculed Charlie's idea of redeeming sinners. In the final edition of the story Lucifer doesn't insult Charlie's dream. He's not gun ho about it and its mostly because he doesn't like the idea of his daughter becoming a potential target for angel soldiers ready to destroy her.......so yeah so much for a father and daughter conflict in this specific example. Whole lot of nothing. Viv is simply awful. The mocking of fatherhood is merely ONE type of flaw that this bitch's media has.

>>49645 We can go back to the other main criticism of how she handles the biblical elements all extremely poorly too. It all seems to be in a spiteful purposeful misunderstanding of what heaven & hell is. Like her writing is rebelling against her normal loving upbringing just because.

>>49646 Yes that's another one. Speaking of religion in this stuff why is the character Rosie in an obvious Christian themed Hell? Her character description is that she's Jewish so wouldn't she be in her own Judaism Jewish Hell for being a cannibal? She literally doesn't belong in the Christian Hell. What's next an Asian Shinto sinner or an India Buddhist Sinner being shown in this Christian Hell?

>>49620 no

>>49583 A few people involved said the next season will be way more Stolitz (even though that's what it's been for 3+ years). It's only gonna get worse, even though I thought it's quality hit rock bottom in early/mid S2. a shame since the first several eps of Season 1 were pretty good. Verosika's debut ep was 10/10. that's all gone now.

>>49583 No? Are ya retarded or smth?

>>49648 Jews don't have a hell, they have Sheol which is more like the Greek underworld than any "Lake of Fire" idea we have of hell.

>>49648 Vivzie lazily masses Christian, jewish, & apocryphal biblical lore altogether without really expanding on them. It's an even lazier version of mainstream pop culture hell born from media referencing Dante's Inferno or Paradise Lost. Which were big inspirations for this world.

>>49651 >A few people involved said the next season will be way more Stolitz While I'm not at all surprised by this, last I heard it was going to revolve more around Loona. That was months ago though. I guess more of the gay soap opera couple is to be expected now that we're living in the age of "resistance", according to Viv's party.

>>49583 I truly hope for Stella development beside "she always was evil" bullshit since viv give a promise about it. If, just fucking IF she is have some kind of daddy issues too I'm going to kil myself immediately.

>>49665 The cure to modern culture is for the rot and damage to become so extreme that society collapses. And when idiots start asking "Gee what went wrong?" That's when you throw every single failing that ruined civilization right in their faces from stuff like Feminism/Women's Rights, tolerance of degenerate lifestyles like homosexuality, etc. Viv says resistance but at the same time I can't help but wonder how would Viv react if one of her own starts betraying or attacking her. After all bleeding heart idiot liberals always eat their own, like cannibals ha ha! I want to see Viv's face and opinions change BUT she's not allowed to physically speak publicly about how much she resents her former allies because she was attacked in the first place by them. That alone would be entertaining. I never feel sorry when these scumbags end up eating themselves. Its always to quote Adam "is Entertainment!"

>>49665 My hope is that if Loona is going to get focus I hope that she gets utterly ruined. Do anything that would truly tarnish the character. The best way to damage Loona's fandom is to make Loona like Millie's sister a transsexual. And use actual demon magic from the dark arts to truly make Loona like Baphomet the demon that has both tits and a dick. That would be the most damaging way to ruin Loona. And if you want to ruin Loona even further full blown turn her into a male character using dark magic. Lets not fool ourselves Loona's fanbase is straight. The best way to ruin Loona is to transition her into a biological hellhound male. And then the cherry on top would be to grab the Male Loona and make him also turn homosexual like Blitzo and even have Blitzo mentor the newly male Loona on how to find a male to date. So that it really goes into detail for multiple episodes of such a garbage idea which will indeed CRIPPLE the popularity of Loona. That's how you hurt Loona's fandom, they are straight so force the thing they like to turn into a male homo.

>>49696 What did a Loona fan do to you? >also implying any of that wouldn't just make people hornier

>>49699 As mentioned Loona's fandom is STRAIGHT. And have you noticed the trajectory of Helluva Boss? The whole show is about doing anything that makes straight dudes turn away. So since we know Viv is like this for two season's worth of content you have to imagine that eventually its Loona's turn to be damaged. Loona escaped ruination mostly because she spent a chunk of Season 2 episodes not speaking or having a role but now its her turn on the spotlight. And that usually means its time for the Bad Writing to work its magic. All I'm saying is get ready because something awful is most likely going to happen to Loona which will further hurt the reception of Helluva Boss.

>>49701 The worse they'll do to Loona is keeping her as just a voiceless unfocused character for more gay drama. They already also implied she's bi in the stupid pride parade image.

>>49665 Vivzie the Hutt is a two-faced liar. she also once said "I love Millie and she'll get her time to shine." did she? not really.

>>49693 She's just a typical showbiz/entertainment industry liberal now, they don't want to deal with the actual ramifications of the things they support

>>49693 >After all bleeding heart idiot liberals always eat their own, like cannibals ha ha! This is what happened to that bitch who created Harry Potter. She was a Leftist but as it turns out she had a limit to which agendas from the Left she supported and when would not support tranny trash she was attacked by her own group. The only thing that pisses me off is how many IDIOTS think that Harry Potter's creator is against Leftism and Democrats and stuff like that. That bitch is still rotten to her core. She's the one supporting tactics like race swapping white characters including within her own franchise, she's not clean and innocent. So I'm disappointed idiots still have blind faith in shitty people like Harry Potter's creator. And that's merely one example.

Dawn after all that ranting i wonder. how would you make show better if you got a chance?

>>49774 Have it be an episodic series with way less lore faggotry. Make Loona less gothy or get rid of her so people can focus on what's actually important. None of the soap opera shit or any other tangent and it's a good enough show. By the way, has anyone found the uncensored version of Stolas blowing his brains out?

>>49615 Moxxie is going to cuck Millie for loona? Is he gonna fuck loona? And if moxxie or loona dump on eachother, what’s next? Moxxie fucking bee and Tex? This show is gonna fucking suck. This is why invincible and JJK won https://youtu.be/ytEFhyHie7o?si=hB62X8Jpv9b9JnbT https://youtu.be/YpkLKkHa4-c?si=zg_b3kQofG89hJFY <Sinister mark after seeing loona being chained up and been treated like a dog <Sinister mark : >SATAN!!! YOURE DEAD!!!!

>>49734 Why not hire a different voice actress? Maybe methodswitch? https://youtu.be/apiuOHn2GpM?si=29YczJLvcUUoFe6t

>>49620 >Not a single straight male self insert let alone shonen style self inserts, hell let alone a human straight male >Most of the main cast has no self insert >Loona most likely treated the same way, basically a dog less than a person like all other hellborns. >So many Fuji clown soap opera gay shit >The crashout beatdown scenes are still fucking lame like lucifer on adam or stolas on andralpheus >Unlike the based mark Grayson that had his crashout shine like a demon that beats NOTHING BUT BLOOD AND PULP ON ANGSTROM AND CONQUEST. >Most humans of helluvaboss are fucking mentally retarded than Billy and Mandy, and invader zim characters >Stolas or fizzaroli always camera hogging on gay romance like whores they are, >worse than snorlock and tree trunks/pig from adventure time at least they are damn funny and worth watching Nope this show is going to die soon.

/co/ won't load capchas for me, any news from the lvl up expo?

>>50107 viv's having another meltdown

>>50109 When isn't she Any actual news

>>50112 rumor that Bee was recast

>>50114 Would be an improvement. Striker's new VA is terrible, but Kesha sounded like she has critically low blood pressure whenever she spoke as Bee.

>>49934 Vivzie would rather waste money on celebrity voice actors.

>>50119 non-zero chance Kesha departed and it wasn't on the bestest of terms. Striker's new VA is Bosco after he had the Alastor role taken away from him.

The next HB episode is gonna be Hulu exclusive for at least a week. Congratulations on becoming the new RWBY.

>>50142 Helluvaboss is going to be pirated like crazy, nobody os going to want to be left out after having prior investment for 2 seasons

>>50148 That's the joke, Dobson. It's exactly what /rwbyg/ did.

Okay, correction: It's going up on Amazon Prime, not Hulu, then will go onto Youtube after a MONTH. Everyone post your favorite laughing pics to mock Amazon.

>>50131 >get thrown under the bus along with everyone else the very nanosecond your "friend" gets a taste of the mainstream >come crawling back when that "friend's" other show gets picked up by another streaming service So how long do you think it'll take for him to lock his socials over this? Because there's no way he's not getting trolled or harrassed to some degree for this move.

>>50142 >new RWBY. Too bad Viziegoblina hasn't died yet, letting Jeff Beezos rape her beloved creations.

>>50256 He's been voicing Striker for a couple years now. Reedus only did one episode.

>>50280 Well shit. Shows how much I've forgotten since last season ended. Also completely forgot Hazbin was always on Prime until I watched the announcement trailer just a little bit ago; hence the crossover talk. God, why do I subject myself to Vivzieslop when I can't even be bothered to remember basic facts? Ed is still a bitch for ever working with Viv again in any capacity.

>>50290 That shit is borderline bestiality, spoil it.

>>50274 Could the writers from invincible revision helluvaboss, and better than what Brandon and viv writes?. Just imagine how edgy Stolas trains like mark grayson. then has a massive crashout to beat the antagonist, more brutal than andralpheus possibly angstrom beat down style to a T?

>>50448 What did the nigga post?

>>49583 i've been following Helluva ever since the pilot and it's honestly unfortunate that it turned out as mid as it is. Stolas used to be my favorite character before they made him completely flawless, and i think that's the main issue with HB. of course i'm not a movie critic or anything like that, but Stolas is the main issue with the series right now i think. also think them making Stella a dumb bitch was unfortunate and a waste of a potentially good villain who seemed intelligent and had decent plans in the first season, Stolas was the dumb one in their relationship(but again, they made him flawless now).

>>51324 i'm a retard who went on a rant instead of answering OPs question but i think the third season will be mid too. they seem to be focusing on nothing but Stolas as of right now and i think it'll just be more yaoislop from now on.

Is it offensive that all the gay characters have daddy issues or that’s just me

>>51324 >>51325 Nigga u gay. >>51368 No, it's retarded they all have daddy issues; It makes zero sense that's the only problem any one of them have but I could guess why considering how fuckin' boring this show is.

>>50274 Viv is your basic white lib Broad yet she can’t appease these people

>>51397 >White She claims to be hispanic, but looks and acts like a gringo. Guess that's what being fully Americanized, LA born and raised gets you.

>>51293 Have all the characters get brutally killed as a "fuck you" to all the fans who ignored every redflag when Viz sold out. >>51294 ViziePop naked

>>51434 >ViziePop naked How and why did something like that winded up in any anons possession. Post spoilered, Risk be damned cause I'm curious.

>>51447 Probably the worst idea of all time.

>>49615 I love this meme

>>49682 It would be so easy, but I don't think Vivzie is capable of giving her any nuance. As far as canon is concerned, Stella will always be the hateful bitch wife of poor put upon Stolas for no other reason than 'she's just a bitch okay guys!' That's why I stay away from canon and occupy myself with fan interpretations of characters. It just makes them more entertaining and focuses on the aspects of the show that are actually interesting

>>53301 The set up for her and Stolas' relationship has good potential for a ruthless, though understandable character. >Forced into a loveless marriage with twink bird because of parents, maybe she had someone she was interested in that she had to leave for her familial duty? >Twink husband immediately cheats on her with the excuse of 'you don't love me and our marriage is a farce anyway' >And he's so unsubtle about it that everyone fucking knows about i, even their daughter All that alone could've been the basis for so many different interpretations of her. Maybe she's only pretending to be mad because she wants to play the part of the angry wife so it won't look bad when she either kills him or gets a divorce and starts seeing someone else? Maybe she only got angry when he started bringing his affair partners around their kid and making things even messier? Maybe she actually fell for him at some point and she's upset because he's not even into women? But no, she's just gotta be the one note murderous (ex)wife who has no character other than hating Stolas so that it makes Stolas seem justified in his affair with Blitzo (despite the fact that it's still, you know, an AFFAIR). This kind of writing is why I like Hazbin more, though it's not really much better in writing. At least the characters are more fun to watch.

>>53306 I could see how even for a demon from hell having your husband bring his hitman/gay lover around your kid might be a little much.

>>53306 My thoughts exactly. I don't even necessarily have an issue with her being pretty much a bitch by default, but they so clearly set up some good reasons for her behavior that it's really impossible for you to not at least understand her anger. She gets forced into a loveless marriage as much as Stolas does, if they were interested in actual drama they could have made her at least try to make it work only to get cheated on by Stolas which breaks her patience and she delves into being a full on bitch as a coping mechanism. the way I see it, her entire life feels like a massive cope, being manipulated by her family as nothing but a pawn to accrue power and often being talked down to due to her lack of guile and power. She acts like a bitch because a) it's a way to at least TRY and give herself some self actualization and b) her family never even cared enough to discipline her.

Is this thread safe from all those weirdos on the other chan?

Wait are there two Hell cartoons?

>>53354 Hazbin Hotel, and Helluva Boss.

>>53351 The issue is Vivzie and the writing team do not want their pet characters to have to be wrong or truly flawed. Stolas can't really be a bad husband and father for cheating, his dad was a jerk to him and he never wanted to marry Stella and she was definitely always a bitch, so he's justified in fucking Blitzo (in the writers' eyes). Granted, I heard that the more recent stuff has Stolas get stripped of his noble title and fuck up his relationship with his kid, so at least something's happening, but that doesn't excuse the original issue.

>>53356 I honest to God thought these were the same show and now I'm not sure which character goes in which.

>>53352 What kind of weirdos?

>>53352 For now at least.

>>53373 Is it even possible for 4chan /co/ got even worse?

>>53367 There's Sandeep who spams the threads with AI porn, and the Loona-Moxxie Schizo.

>>53365 Tall red twink in the suit with the tan skin and the blonde girl with completely white skin and the dot nose is Hazbin, red, vaguely humanoid imp with horns and tall owl fag (along with the furry girl) are Helluva.

>>53377 Sure doesn't feel like it, but you know what they say about rock bottom. At the moment, the only time I'm ever excited to go on 4chan /co/ is when they're doing the Usagi storytime, but that happens once a year, and the rest of the time, it's the lowest tier bait threads, East v. West tripe, and gooners ruining cheesecake threads. Shit's down right abysmal

Is the Loona x Anon spam prevalent here?

>>53525 No LoonaxAnon, only OctaviaxAnon

>>53538 Ah, ACTUAL Hoot Game talk. That is a bit more agreeable.

>>53538 What ya say?

>>53540 Hootgame for Octavia, I Wanna Hug That Hellhound for Loona obviously

Any hopes for season 3?

>>51368 Offensive no, boring predictable and lazy yes

>>53538 >What if CHERUB was put on DHORK's payroll?

>>53640 >I wanna hug that hellhound Heh, technically the Japanese pun still works, just instead of "Wani" for alligator/crocodile, it's "wan" like a dog barking.

>>51368 Na that's just normal for gays.

Can Stella be redeemed?

>>53945 I hope not. Viv would probably make her a cuck or something, which would be horrible. At best, she's sidelined, but at worst, she'll be ruined even more

>>53699 >I Wan Hug That Hellhound I like it.

>>53945 I think it could be possible, but it'd probably involve Stella getting a sappy song about how she was never loved and how deep down, she's just jealous of Stolas for finding true love when she never could or some shit like that.

Steven Universe was, in its entirety, garbage.

>>49583 where did helluva boss succeed where hazbin hotel didn't?

>>54174 They're different shows?

>>54174 I mean, it's been far more active. We had like 2 or three years of HB before the first season of HH even came out. People got more attached to the characters (for better or for worse), and the "storylines" were able to make some approximation of progress. Also, Loons was instant boner material for, like, half the internet.

>>54174 Hazbin Hotel was stuck in development hell (no pun intended) while Helluva boss got 2-3 seasons in the time it took HH to come out.

How do yall feel about Millie?

>>54249 My friend really likes her

>>54250 I like her too. Your friends got good taste.

>>54249 I like her, I just wish she had more going on as a character other than being Mox's girlfriend.

>>54249 >>54258 Her family is literal trash - she doesn't have much doing on like the other Anon said outside of being a stereotype as best her design is attractive but I dunno. It's hard to give a shit about anything from this series, it's either wasted potential or dragged down by modern hedonistic bullshit.

>>54315 I do too man. Something, anything really. Make bitchy toward Loona, give her a hobby like collecting weird dolls - something other than just "Southern Country Girl". >>54322 I feel that. Despite everything I still try and hold out the slightest smidgeon of hope that things can be salvaged, that something good can be pulled from the ass of shit.

>>54382 You know what could've been interesting? Have her and Mox's positions switch over the course of the series. He starts off relying on her heavily because he's not as a good of a fighter while she's one of the best on the team. Then, after the episode with Striker and her family, Mox decides to seriously work towards being a more competent fighter so he can be taken seriously. He starts getting better at fighting, which Millie is happy about at first, until she starts to worry about what that means for their relationship, since he's always relied on her and now he's becoming more self-sufficient. This could throw her off balance and make her start fucking up on jobs. The resolution would be her realizing it's not about one of them being competent and the other one solely relying on them, but both of them relying on each other and being supportive to each other, both in their work and on a personal level. I dunno, this is idea guy shit, but even if this is ass, literally anything would be better than what she has right now.

>>54391 You'd think her being pregnant in the more recent series would be a perfect time for Moxie to step up, want to get stronger since he's going to be a father. But no, that would be interesting character development. So instead Vivzie is going to probably go the boring millennial "wesponsibiwity is scaaaaawy" route and just having her get an abortion, which means that whole arc was a fat lot of nothing.

>>54174 Is it more successful than Hazbin? I haven't heard anything from either in while, so at the very least it isn't popular enough to break out of containment.

>>54391 See, I wouldn't mind that. It would make for some interesting character interaction and possibly even story progression on, whatever the fuck they even have for a story. At the very least it would make them more than just the cute and adorable couple. >>54396 If Viv can do something besides Abortion, I would be happy. Imagine lil Jr. being apart of the crew. >They call the baby Skittles. >Baby is a crackshot and thinks guns are fun. >Saves Mom and Dad now and then. >Gets kidnapped at the start of the episode, and during the entire runtime its slapstick comedy with the Baby being such a pain that at the end when IMP is there for the rescue, the kidnapper is begging for help.

>>49583 Any news going on and is Hazbin Hotel season 2 still happen? I wanna see how this dumpster fire is trudging along or is it pretty much close to death now? Viziepop's fanbase is a lot more critical these days compared to a decade ago even before she hit it big especially during her Zoophobia days.

>>54824 Unfortunately.

>>54824 What the fuck, Charlie.

>>54837 Well atleast it didn't take years to make it. >>54842 We know vaggie (who's actual is actually Vagina)

L O L >>>/v/1640257

>>55613 Why doesn’t He have a beard?

>>55613 >he came >can be easily misinterpreted by showing the face of the dyke protagonist being repulsed by Jesus' hand Oh no! Stonetoss finally cracked the code and he's getting some good karma points! It's so heckin joever!!11!!!

>>55619 Was that really intentional though?

>>55619 The fuck you mean misinterpreted? That's the fucking joke!

Will trashbin S2 be put on hold if homosuck gets greenlit? That would be the one silver lining.