>>31888 >Sorry Amy, I can't date you, tarot cards are Satanic. If you haven't noticed I fight demons instead of take "readings" from them. >Amy, I already told you, I'm not going to date anyone outside my own religion, I want my kids to grow up in a Christian household Honestly, this is somewhat believable.

>>31891 Nonsense.

>>31888 It's obviously the opposite. Amy getting repeatedly rejected for over 30 years has caused her to give up on faith. Sonic broke her spirit. Except Amy actually uses Tarot cards in Frontiers, so nevermind. It's just a contradiction. Or maybe we're all misinterpreting the line. Maybe she's surprised because she has faith but she doesn't think other people in her world do, and blames their technological society for it.

>>32004 I interpreted the line like, if aliens showed themselves one day and it turned out they were Catholic. It would be weird and surprising.

>>32005 Maybe Amy is one of the only religious people in her world because gods keep trying to destroy the world so people don't wanna worship them anymore. After Chaos and Dark Gaia, you'd probably get a lot of people that only believe in demons, not gods. God doesn't save them, Sonic does. Sonic should have a cult that worships him. I guess he is supposed to be a major celebrity in his world, and that's kind of the same thing. The fact that Sonic is supposed to be the coolest and most popular figure in the world should be played up more often. And it isn't just because he's cool as hell, it's because he's literally saved the world from evil gods on many occasions.

>>32009 the thing is people worship gods out of fear (thats how abrahamism in particular has maintained its grasp for so long). with sonic there to defeat whatever evil god is on a rampage, they no longer have anything to fear

>>32019 no, people donate to churches, mosques, etc. out of fear

>>32024 Well you'd better, or you're going to hell. Or Chaos will come and drown your city. Whatever.

>>32025 you don't even know what you're talking about in the bible (old testament, so it counts for jews too) it says that an altar to God should only be made of an arrangement of earth and uncut stone, and should not be intentionally raised above the surrounding area institutional religion in general is non-biblical

>>31896 Do you have a better explanation then? I'm all ears.

>>32027 the bible specifically incriminates the mere act of QUESTIONING the divinity of yahweh as "blasphemy of the holy spirit", an unforgivable sin that once you do it you are 100% guaranteed to burn in hell forever with no chance of redemption. abrahamic religion in general defies all logic but people still follow it because if they dont, theyll burn in hell forever. thats why preachers need to devote a shitton of time to "debunking" scientific fact

>>32057 >preachers devote time to debunking scientific fact If you're protestant or reformed, maybe. But the catholics are the opposite The catholic church has historically been a huge patron of thr sciences. I mean even today the vatican operates an observatory. Gregor Mendel was an Augustinian Friar, and Lemaitre was a priest. I could even go into church doctors like bede or aquinas, or even present-day catholic philosophers like ed feser, but we'd be here all day.

>>32038 Either it's exactly as stated in the credits or it's a power struggle between the writers and Sega just wants the name brand because that's what sells to idiots who buy into Flynn's bullshit.

>>32057 Cite chapter and verse.

>>32086 matthew 12:31

>>32038 I think it's the "Ian Flynn" branding as the other anon said.

>>32005 They didn't talk about any specific religion in that scene.

>>31599 Ian is constantly lying.

>>32126 I don’t see how that matters.

>>32134 Doesn't he double down on his writing decisions when criticized though? If this was him, I think he would double down on it too.

>>32134 >Ian F-lyin'

>>32122 >matthew 12:31 >And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is traditionally believed to be unrepentance. Since repentance is a prerequisite for forgiveness, this is rather obvious if you think about it. So: >>32057 >the bible specifically incriminates the mere act of QUESTIONING the divinity of yahweh as "blasphemy of the holy spirit" No, it specifically does not.

>>32005 >if aliens showed themselves one day and it turned out they were Catholic. It would be weird and surprising. Not particularly. "Catholic" means "universal". It would just be indirect evidence that Catholicism is correct. You may regard that as surprising, but if it's correct, it wouldn't be surprising that aliens might know about it. There's been some official statements on the matter of hypothetical aliens. Things get interesting if the aliens didn't fall from grace.

>>32635 >Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is traditionally believed to be unrepentance. This is not the definition of blasphemy that anyone else uses. Go ask anyone on the street and they won't say it means to not be repentant. Trying to say it means a completely different thing is a massive stretch to try to make biblical morality fit your own personal morality, when you should be trying to fit your personal morality into biblical morality.

>>33563 >This is not the definition of blasphemy that anyone else uses. >CCC 1864 "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin."136 There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit.137 Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss. https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P6C.HTM Blasphemy in general is disrespecting/insulting a deity. In Christianity, the Holy Spirit is the aspect of God which acts as the intermediary between people on Earth and Jesus / the Father, by directing them to repentance, avoidance of sin, the cultivation of virtue, etc. Knowingly rejecting repentance of sin (this is not a sin of ignorance) is therefore an insult to the Holy Spirit, and therefore blasphemy.

>>31887 So fucking based and precious.

>>34810 This is a massive reach trying to do mental gymnastics to justify a blatant contradiction in the lore. And this is the board where everyone accepts that a random background mural in one screen of a Genesis game with no dialogue secretly relates to Shadow's origin in a game that came out seven years later.

>>35024 It's the official doctrine of the largest, oldest denomination of Christianity. And one with a handy online reference explaining their beliefs. You'll see similar in other Christian denominations if you care to look. To bring this back to what prompted this line of discussion: >>32057 >the bible specifically incriminates the mere act of QUESTIONING the divinity of yahweh as "blasphemy of the holy spirit" No, that's neither in the Bible nor believed by Christians as a matter of doctrine. It's unclear where that idea came from.

>>35032 It's definitely believed since most people just use regular definitions of words and not mental gymnastic definitions of words.

>>35024 I don't care about the religion discussion, but the mural isn't needed to make the connection in SA2

>>35036 >It's definitely believed By whom? Where did that come from? Has anyone written it down as a professed belief?

So is Jesus a human or an animal person in this world?

>>35201 Narnia precedent suggests a lion.

>>35036 >most people just use regular definitions of words and not mental gymnastic definitions of words Like blasphemy being something actively insulting to a deity one believes in rather than questioning the divinity of a deity one isn't sure about? Legitimately questioning articles of faith is regarded as normal in Christianity, though people with doubts are expected to be open to doctrinal explanations. See "doubting Thomas" now regarded as a saint.

>>31646 I theorize it was the result of a consultancy firm getting a Sonic Team member to write this.

>>35357 That would make a lot of sense. Someone did point out Frontiers was on the about page of some consultancy firm. I don't understand why any of these companies bother with them, no one in the audience wants this garbage, even the people who defend it wouldn't care if it wasn't there.