You can talk about whatever in whatever order, but I'm going to play through the games myself in chronological order whenever I get a chance. I'm playing with several mods. BetterSADX, SADX:FE, Smooth Camera, Improved Voice Clips, Dreamcast Conversion, Latern Engine, Dreamcast Characters Pack, Pause Hide, Frame Limit, Onion Skin Blur, Idle Chatter, Steam Achivements Mod, Egg Carrier Ocean Music, Super Sonic, Sound Overhaul, Perfect Chaos Music Swap, Time of Day, HD GUI 2, HD GUI 2 Xbox 360, Dreamcast DLC, Snowboarding Amy, Twinkle Park Ex (Amy), Boss Lighting Tweaks, Chao Gameplay, Emblem Challenge, Dreamcast Conversion Fixes. I'm not going to bother with Chao gardens TOO much on SA1, I'll save that for SA2.

Btw, it only crashed like 5 times and required a hard restart. :P

>>41884 AH MAMA MIA! I didn't turn off resampling! I spent 4 hours trying to find a converter that made it the right codec for editing and forgot! Now the videos slightly ghost. Why is it on by default?! Anyways... Chao 0 is a sick intro boss.

>Friend just died in a plane crash seconds ago >Getting Sympathy pick ups at the pool.gif

Obligatory

Doing these as thread uploads makes this game have a neat timer built in. Can you beat the stage before the file size gets too big?

Sonic and Tails both build planes, in fact Tails picked up his hobby from Sonic. Proceed to claim Sonic knows nothing about mechanics from here on out, even though dude's big thing back in the 90s was he was a huge planefag.

>>41882 Since Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg was built in the same engine as the Adventure games, has anyone been able to mod Billy Hatcher into SA1?

>>41890 Sadly just a skin so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAn4gVaiNiw

You know, a promotion like this might also be working as some sort of filter, or subjugating people that are lonely to better suit the park's image. Think about it, a park letting happy couples in fills it's occupancy with a more attractive audience. Snap a few pictures, use it to advertise. Twinkle Park is fucked.

Here's a cool trick I always did. But I can't remember if I got it to work on Dreamcast or if it only worked on Gamecube and on. I'm using Dreamcast conversion, but no idea if that mod is 100% accurate. Anyways, you can get to the burger statue a whole 5 minutes earlier, what a skip!

What... did she mean?

This girl's cute. Someone draw her.

I have to admit, I had way more trouble with this trick this time around, I actually got completely stuck trying to leave and had to restart the game. I'll leave it here for tonight.

>>41894 I guess there's nothing back there you can do to skip parts of the game? >>41896 She's cute, but is probably too generic for anyone to have drawn.

>>41898 I'm going to completely guess and say no there's not really anything back there. There's no levels and they made sure to cover the light shoes with the car Big later moves, which is pretty thorough foresight considering they didn't expect anyone back there yet. Although, even if the car wasn't there, the light shoes probably wouldn't be either. I was actually a bit shocked when that girl walked in, I don't remember any NPCs in that boundry break. Part of me was expecting default test dialog from her. Too generic? Even with the white bow?

>>41899 >Too generic? Even with the white bow? She's just a low poly anime girl, there are probably tons of them from back then. If she weren't in SA1, she'd be completely forgotten. Maybe ask the drawthread if someone there would want to draw her.

>>41888 I still can't stop thinking of being 5 years old playing this at world of tomorrow at Disney. Blew my mind and got a Dreamcast that Christmas, my fate as a autismo was sealed. anyways, I like the song Emerald Coast's song was based on (Almost the exact same song, might be a cover even.)

>>41902 Senoue originally composed it for Sonic Adventure, then made the lyrics version for the JxJ album later. He also did this with another track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av2maOIAEv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri55v-49iJQ And then he did it again the other way around with one of the JxJ songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKihg4uqEQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdY_TUSYuRo

>>41889 Sonic owns and pilots a plane, but I don't think they ever said he can build them.

>>41894 >I'm using Dreamcast conversion, but no idea if that mod is 100% accurate. I think that's only for the graphics, not things like collision glitches.

>>41899 >I was actually a bit shocked when that girl walked in, I don't remember any NPCs in that boundry break. Part of me was expecting default test dialog from her. I remember someone a while ago said that's the only NPC that's always loaded and that she's tied to that area.

>>41919 I wonder if her being loaded was intentional or if it was an accident.

I rebooted the story, I forgot they have a >LAST TIME ON SONIC ADVENTURE for every single point of every story, which would be pretty crazy if it wasn't outdone by 2 which had them all VOICED. Sonic Adventure 2 has tons of spoken dialog in it's files for every possible recap, even with Amy since she does it for the last story.

More Mr. Know-it-all tricks and tipz

There's only the station square, and a jungle immediately outside it, the city's actually only 3 square miles.

...why does a train lead to the middle of nowhere anyways? Does Tails get enough visitors to warrant a train stop? Surely they didn't build a railway leading to the ass end of a humid jungle for a small exploration team,

This is the 8,372nd time I'm watching this cutscene in my life. I have nothing to add.

This is the 11, 782nd time I'm playing this boss fight. I got hit to make it more exciting.

I usually skip this one.

>>42023 I sort of respect going the extra length to make sure the player remembers what they were doing last even if more than 50% of it might never be seen

And we never even go inside Tails' workshop, instead getting the "wind key". What is the wind key? I feel like it would be something to do with echidna temples, but we're not on Angel island, it crashed right next door, which is a weird plot point. I feel like Tails and Sonic would bring this up. >By the way Sonic, Knuckles island just fucking plummeted into the earth and almost obliterated me and my house But they never even acknowledge that Angel island is in stepping distance. Most players don't even realize that wall next to the train stop in the Mystic Ruins is suppose to be the island crashed into the land, you have to talk to a few NPCs who mention it.

oops, Windy Valley needs to be split, that's it for tonight then

>>42027 I think that's the case. Tails says the train station was built recently

I wanna get some opinions on this because I never see people really bring it up, but I'm surely not the only one that thinks SA1 is way more fun to control than SA2? In regards to SA2, I'm only really talking about the sonic and shadow stages. Sonic and shadow in SA2 feel really heavy, slow, and not nearly as fluid as SA1 Sonic and it really puts me of from playing SA2 over SA1 anytime I go back to the adventure games. Especially coupled with the treasure hunter and mech stages which I never really cared for in all my life of being a sonic fan. Sonic, tails and knuckles in SA1 are fast, floaty and the level design feels a lot more open, which imo is way more fun since you actually get to go fast. IDK might be a skill thing but I've 100%'ed both games and I haven't touched SA2 over SA1 in years

>>42049 Absolutely agree, however SA2 has more tricks, like grinds, bounces, quick lightspeed. That's why I use a mod that gives Sonic and Shadow SA1 controls, the mod is actually sick. You can map the controls of each game's moveset to a different button. So when I want SA1's spindash and jump cancel, I press x, and when I want the short roll to go under gaps and bounce, I press B, and light speed is mapped to Y. It really just makes me wish we could just crush the two games together.

>>42049 >I'm surely not the only one that thinks SA1 is way more fun to control than SA2 Yes, if nothing else because rail grinding was a nightmare to do right.

>>42049 I'm very much a casual, having never replayed any Sonic games, but I definitely enjoyed SA1 more than 2.

>>42161 It's true that grinding is stressful but did you play the game on PC? SA2's analog controls are completely busted on PC unless you mod it.

>>42161 I seem to be able to do fine as long as you just flick the controller in the right direction at the start of the turn and leave it in neutral. >>42241 The steam port is absolute dogshit and I can't believe they released it like that. Sega did absolutely nothing to justify PC sales and the mods should have just used a pirated copy. It's what was deserved.

>>42241 How did they even manage to mess up the grinding on PC? What did they even change for that to happen? >>42245 I wish they'd give the Adventure games proper rereleases in this era

>>42241 Yeah, it was the PC version. I'm not sure if it was a problem with the controls, I just went right through the rails so many times. It was so cathartic to play Shadow Gens and have rail grinding work correctly.

>>42255 From what I heard in the past, it's a problem with the controls

>>42245 >>42248 >>42255 >>42256 SA2's PC port isn't AS bad on a technical level as SA1's but the Dreamcast had this weird joystick they didn't really account for when porting both games so the deadzones are all really big and strange which makes precision platforming way harder than it has any right to be. Both issues are fixed by mods. It even comes built into the mod launcher for SADX. It's even sort of a problem when emulating Dreamcast games. Go play the Dreamcast port of Daytona USA on an emulator and you'll see what I mean.

>>42257 What about the GameCube version of SA2? That's the only one I've ever seriously played and I never had any issues with it.

>>42258 I think that might've had the same deadzone problem but I don't really remember. Might be bullshit.

>>42257 >create game that becomes loved by players >wait a few years >re release the game in pitiful state >new players play the game >new players rightfully bash the game >old players naturally defend the game >it was all a scheme to pit newfags against oldfags Sega are the ultimate trolls

>>42261 This never actually happened. The closest is SADX, but that release also legitimately fixed issues that were in the original release. The problem is that it added issues of its own >new players play the game Most people played them on GameCube or PC. The Dreamcast wasn't a very popular console.

>>42262 >This never actually happened I know but it's funny to think about. Personally I didn't enjoy the game so it sounds plausible to me, I don't know why more people don't hate on it.