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Technology and the /fringe/ Anonymous 11/05/2024 (Tue) 04:57:47 No. 4170
Continuing off of the posts about electroencephalography: While I've been waiting for my literal children's toy amateur EEG monitor to arrive in the mail, I discovered that the college I'm attending has a more professional EEG headset that uses the same hardware. So far I've written a basic python API for the NeuroSky chipset (used in both devices) that can read the signal quality, frequency bands, and raw EEG waveform from the device. Planned experiments include: >Quantifying the efficacy of different methods of meditation >Analyzing the brain's state during energy work or within an altered state of consciousness >Determining if the astrologer for my university newspaper is a real psychic or just a FAKE MUNDIE POSER Any suggestions or comments are welcome. Also, please feel free to discuss other technologically-related /fringe/ topics, I don't want this thread to just be my EEG blogposts.
One of my friends is an artist who used meditation with these electrodes to cause a procedurally generated story to change depending on your meditative state. The biggest thing i noticed is that single point meditation versus no thought meditation activated completely different brainwaves. Also the precision isn't great, these do work but the data is very noisy.
I’ve heard that handheld machines exist that allow spirits to communicate with humans by making the machine form text on a screen. What’s a good such consumer-grade machine? I’d like to buy one.
>>5469 Just learn channeling via automatic writing.
>>5469 I like this.
In one of Bruce Moen's books, he tells that one day he was sitting with Bob Monroe, and Bob pointed at a light switch or something and asked how come we can't turn it on and off with our intent like we can change things in the astral. The answer is partially density, partially that you actually can, and if you see the light in a switched state long enough, it will eventually switch somehow (most probably synchronisticaly). There are consumer products such as lamps that contain a mechanism that is very sensitive to quantum tunneling and can be triggered by thought, but their marketability is very limited. They could probably be used for spirit communication, too. But how would you avoid the Philip Experiment effect (other than being extremely disciplined with your energy), I don't know. I had the idea once to buy a hardware random number generator that is susceptible to quantum interference. But I know it would just gather dust after my initial experiments, just as my EEG is.
>>5695 This is the kind of thing I was talking about: http://www.psyleron.com But it seems very dead. Perhaps /fringe/ should build one such device.
>>4170 Did you continue with this project? Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53Y-iaAauY
>>6309 Sorry for not replying in a while, I've been slowly continuing with the project, but college has made things busier. To sum up what's happened so far, the good news is: >Got the Force Trainer II amateur consumer EEG headset, and it works perfectly with the NeuroSky python library I wrote. (Albeit only on Windows for some reason? Must be a software issue.) >Talked with one of the professors about this project, got approval for doing an independent study >Learned that there's a grad student who's doing similar studies on brainwaves The bad news: <After doing all this preparation, I've now just realized I have no idea how to perform proper scientific research, WHOOPS <I've generally realized that I know hardly anything about this field compared to most of the Anons on this board Granted, those two issues will hopefully solve themselves given time and work on this project. >>5695 >>5738 I did a bit of digging into that psyleron website, the papers they cite seem to suggest that their products are based around detecting patterns from some hardware random number generator. Somewhat related, but I managed to find a project page for a DIY, NIST-compliant hardware quantum random number generator: https://github.com/openqrng/QT1 (Interestingly enough, it works on that same quantum tunneling principle you were referring to.) I'm mentioning this since every other "consumer" QRNG device is so expensive that you're likely better off going to an online custom PCB fab/assembler if you want to do any experiments with this sort of tech. While I'd like to do some tests with these things myself, I'm still in the middle of working on EEG stuff, and frankly I'm not sure what I could even do with it other than replicate previous experiments that others have done. I've also built a transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) device on a whim earlier so I'm trying to steer clear of doing this sort of thing again >>4177 >Also the precision isn't great, these do work but the data is very noisy. Yeah, the medical papers I've read and experience I've had with those headsets seem to corroborate that fact.
>>7627 >I've now just realized I have no idea how to perform proper scientific research You should be able to pick extra courses and add them outside of your regular curriculum (depending on what kind of education/institution you're at, of course), there should be one giving an introduction to the scientific method. If you're serious, that's how you'll have to do this.
>>7629 "The scientific method" is simply hypothesize, test, refine. That course should be called "modern research techniques" or something. And don't get me started on some idiots trying to shove "publish in a peer-reviewed publication" into the scientific method. >college It's sad to see most people just forget about magical pursuits once they get into "real life", or get a "real job". Fucking Demiurge.
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>>4170 >Tech for psychonautics These devices work in various ways, as far as I know: >Light or stroboscopic stimulation (is a stroboscopic flickering light art device that produces eidetic visual stimuli) because these stimulate eye-brain with lights (similar to sleep machines, causing a slight altered state of consciousness) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamachine >Sound or binaural loop beatsound because these emit binaural sounds (and you know what this cause, like gateaway and etc, relaxation and change brainwaves) >Or music making You can put some music or BGM or SFX you in the tech-gadget like to turn the thing into a pathwork (or reality shift or active imagination or any quantum-babble you want to call it) >Placebo slight electric shock in head skin because these (supposed) send slight electrical shocks to the brain, but these electric stimulus are so small that these cause little more than tingling in skin-head, and the placebo effect does its magic (pure suggestion-hypnosis belief) Or they are a combination of all of the above. Some of these combinations of tech are good for pathwork (or guided imaginary if you want call it in secular) by tech. >The sleep-dreams lucid machines Then there are machines that tap or touch you at bedtime, detecting a sleep pattern. I believe these are still being tested. They use a method similar to Dali technice, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>4170 >Quantifying the efficacy of different methods of meditation I don't think there's such a thing as ranking meditation methods. You just have to practice, do it often, invoke often, or fake it until you get it right, and follow medical advice as much as possible. I like (and know these) >Breath -Box/square breath or any number of times you want and more time - the golden dawn and the military of today and therapist use this for relaxation -Anapasanti -deep breath -diaphragmatic breathing (If you concentrate on your stomach, you will achieve some body awareness) -reverse breathing -Fire breath/fast-breath (warning with this, is used in sports, dont use it in watersports) -Pore skin respiration/ body awareness breath (similar to some qigong techniques i dont remember the name, bardon have this technique) -Combination: or combine with other techniques like visualizations (breath light, smoke, colors/ entering in your nose nostrils or naddis or etc) -or with somatic exercizes (similar to qi gong or same) -Anulon Vilom or alternate nostril breath (and variations) >Gaze focusing on something (Gaze on a thing or focus on mantra or body or visualization) like -disc color kasina -fire kasina, tatrak gaze on canddles -tattwas or color geometry gaze (used in pathwork) -wall gazing (like zen monks) -sky gazing (like tibet monks) eye gazing or gaze your fingers (this sometimes can make you start to see aura or for me, the retinal burn effect of light or synesthesia colors if you're lucky) the qigong, new agers and in some kriya yoga techniques use this >Body awareness or physical exercises somatic exercises or you can do light physical exercises, slowly exercises or yoga, cardio or martial katas moves, dance. or you can combine techniques and call it chi-qi gong shit with some hypnosis of energy-belief and visualizations (visual imaginery with body awareness and hypnosis) >Hypnosis (if you want) You can add Hypnosis to this, Hypnosis is not the same as meditation, from what I have read about clinical hypnosis and scientific studies, at least the brain responds differently to the two. But you can turn hypnosis into meditation and relaxation (as the Chinese and others do in qigong) and achieve body awareness and ideomotor reflex effect in you. I do Progressive muscle relaxation (PMR) with hypnosis, eye fixation and sometimes i play with other techniques. >Analyzing the brain's state during energy work or within an altered state of consciousness It's a bit useless, but I guess it's okay... There are studies on that in PubMed about Christian monks, Buddhist monks, and even people who hypnotize themselves and so on. >Determining if the astrologer for my university newspaper is a real psychic or just a FAKE MUNDIE POSER Yes, it is very likely that he only writes in the astrology session because he was forced to and not because he wants to. sometimes these even know anything about astrology than Forer and cognitive bias of taging people into personality meme archetypes of signs and ignoring the amount of thing of astrology and etc.


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