I will try making a post which fits the theme of this thread. WE HAVE SEVERAL SHITPOST AND RETARDED ARGUMENTS THREADS ALREADY! I DON'T SEE THE POINT OF MAKING AN ANOTHER ONE. THIS THREAD SUCKS SO DOES EVERYONE WHO POSTS IN IT. HURR DURR I AM VERY ANGRY BECAUSE MY FEELINGS WERE HURT ONCE AND I WILL NEVER GROW UP FROM IT. Also I am far more smarter and civilized compared to all of you and I would have made a far better thread and uh... You are all bullshit occultists and you will never become the real smiley! Also traps are gay. k this is enough as a thread starter. Retardation flows on it's own anyway. You don't need to work for it in any way. Wanted to joke in the deleted focused discussion thread that now that it is called a focused discussion thread it will be anything but that. But when people are angry and suffer from energetic attacks joking about it just makes things worse. Some might think that the jokester is part of the attack and in situation like those further confusion is the worst for all parties. Btw several parties are interested in fringe. 2 days ago some of them tried to introduce themselves while I meditated. They were very vague about everything so I didn't mention it because it seems like we are going through a breakthrough process and I am unsure where it will lead.

Gods ordain reality through secret symbolical mechanisms repeating patterns and numerals. Whoever gets repeating digits automatically wins the argument. Whoever does not check the numerals automatically loses the argument. If you want to win then make sure to GET them DUBS and don't forget to CHECK'EM

Judaism is actually a decent practice.

>>7236 2 more temples and it will work for sure

>>7236 But wait, I can back it up. I just spent 2,5 hours meditating on the meaning of the old testament after assuming a mental state which would match that of the original Jews; meaning, a kind of being - as mentioned elsewhere - who is lower than the Skinny Bob grey alien who only has pain receptors: a being who doesn't even respond rationally to pain, and thus cannot be educated or corrected in any way whatsoever, as individuals. If a group of beings do not learn from mistakes, the only way for them to exist is by having a variety of attitudes; that is diversity. Then when their random and senseless behaviour leads them into an extinction event, some of them will randomly survive. Not because they know anything, but because they just randomly are adapted to the demands of the situation. This makes diversity a REQUIREMENT for survival. If everyone thinks the same, and acts in unison, there is a high risk the entire race is wiped out at once. This explains why Jews must always advocate for diversity, they don't understand why, but they can only survive if they have it. Social Darwinism is in work here, only those who advocate for diversity has remained over history, because that is what works for them. NOW on to why the Torah and the other books, known to us as the Old Testament, works: If you cannot make use of pain as a way to determine right or wrong, at all, what is your mental state? I was sitting in quarter lotus which is the asana I prefer, and then I focused on any pain in the body. I spread this perception out so that it would rest equally on all pain receptors, making the pain worthless as an indicator of any problem. Then I created a tulpa, a mind, which maintains this mentality, of not being able to use even pain to determine if the state of the body is correct or not. Then I moved my awareness and focus to this tulpa, in a state of trance, to act mentally in this manner. I then began going through the books of Moses, starting from Genesis, visualizing the events, and their meaning, the text, comparing it to the Kabbalistic tree of life, and what I can remember of the Tanya Rabbati and the kelipah (shells, shadow), the sitra achra (animal nature) and how all of these relate to the inner alchemic system of the body. I found that this mentality, creates a full focus on only the pineal gland. The entire first section of God creating the world and the descent down from paradise, then activates only the pineal gland multiple times in different ways, until it moves to the amygdala, which then forms the top of the tree of life, with the first 3 sephiroth. The following connection then goes to the heart, which is placed below, making it into the Crown being the pineal gland, the two following sephirah are the left and right amygdala, and the 4th in the middle, Daath, is the heart. This matches the Chabad movement, by quote >The word Chabad is an acronym for Chachmah, Binah, Daas, which means wisdom, understanding, and knowledge. So this practice is a focus on the connection between the amygdala and the heart. It doesn't reach all the way up, but this is a late stage kabbalah movement, so it's not reached there yet, or it's a personal thing to reach. Because, what I found is that walking through the myth from the beginning, and referring the meaning back to the Genesis repeatedly, creates a functional inner energy system which connects all the 4 levels of the body (these do corresponds to the 4 worlds in the tree of life as well). The last bit is hardest to do, because it means giving up all you know, to return to the pineal gland. The Jews have not collectively been able to form a doctrine for this step yet. This would be the main reason they are acting out so violently, the energy isn't connected. However, I believe this can be done. The system has the potential for this. Ok, so what is this cultivated system and its resulted mentality like? It's very different from regular thinking and the perception I'm used to. It feels very "dangerous", like carrying around a running chainsaw with no safety clothing, or balancing blindly on a narrow bar while carrying a pot of boiling water. It feels like any mistake can lead to disaster, and there is no way to know if this will happen, and no way of preventing it, EXCEPT holding on to the religious doctrine and its study and application. However, it's also clear that if this is done with a very strong focus, the energy cultivated is strong enough to actually override any external danger. It's just not something most people can do.

>>7240 >or it's a personal thing to reach. Yupp Also Kabbalah is not exactly Judaism. This is where the problem starts. The mainstream Kabbalah is quite "Modern".

>>7240 >The Jews have not collectively been able to form a doctrine for this step yet. This would be the main reason they are acting out so violently, the energy isn't connected. >However, I believe this can be done. The system has the potential for this. DONE. I also invited Skinny Bob to take part, because (I had forgotten this) I referred to their research library when I was doing the first kabbalah meditation session, and I figured they may like this stuff: They did. 40 000 of them wanted to take part in activating the inner alchemy of "pain-resistant Jews". The effect was very good. I kept going until my Astra servitor said "the last one has been opened", so no remaining "Jew" or associated being on Earth or around, will now have that last energy connection up to the Crown/Kether missing. It should have the effect of neutralizing the outrageous behavior of them as a group as well.

Metatron, vigilantes and the role of the king Incoherent post incoming... 3... 2... 1.. nuclear downfall So the problem which Illuminati is causing by their black market trade is caused not by it being specifically evil or wrong, it's caused by them breaking the "law" which the system follows. It's a technical issue, like they are writing code in the wrong syntax and causing bugs, or whatever. Enoch was a Jew, when he ascended and became Metatron, he didn't leave the proximity of the Earth, because even so, he still hadn't solved the historical karma which was entangled in the planets, which are old suns created through Babylonian and Aztec human sacrifice rituals. This caused him to become a new kind of sun object for worship, when people of any following age associated him with God and the angels. So they would project their sacrifices at him, but he's more of an atom than an actual visible sun, so the negative energy just started circulating around him. Few people were also able to grasp his method, which was to just become a hermit in the desert in an age when everyone except kings were poor as rats to begin with. An ascetic in an age when everyone would be seen as ascetics from modern views. Plus that he's an original Jew and people today aren't, muslims do recognize his status as an angel of God though. >pic When completely isolated in a state of natural high caused by the removal of all pain, one does not meddle with karmic circumstances like the black market does today. This creates a huge purity difference in both karmic but also complexity level of the mindset. In the past history, the King would have a scepter and an apple. >pic The scepter has the power to control negative energies of the land, which includes vigilantes. Why? Because the king is above the law, he rules by decree, and vigilantes are merely enforcing the law on their own. The apple then represents metatron or God. Today this doesn't work, because the the president is not above the law even if he can rule by executive orders. He also doesn't have a scepter. They thought they had fixed this by spreading the Jesus legend of the saviour of the world, who's also a star/sun. But Jews didn't recognize him, muslims neither, and asia barely cared. So they stubbornly went to war against all of them instead of just realizing that this Jesus the sun character isn't going to do it. All this could have been solved by referring to Enoch/Metatron, but he's Jewish and they don't like Jews... So they solved this with grey alien technology to create the Moloch Sun instead. This was never publicised, they just did it anyway, and legalized abortion to feed it. To get asians on-board with it, they used an obscure buddhist sect known as Vedanta, and adapted it into the Moloch cult, spreading it as ''science". This got everyone into the same "temple". But they ignored that it's a monastic order which demands celibacy, so this created a huge "vigilante effect" of people demanding celibacy and attacking anything with sexual implications in society, so it didn't work as they intended AT ALL. Fucking idiots. Plus that they don't have the scepter. They misunderstood it as being just a channel for the armed forces, and wanted to create some kind of weapon in its place: the US army. With added alien technology for satellite ray guns, mind controlling antennas (5G) and downright alien warships, which are the UFOs we keep seeing. Neither of these can actually replace the King's Scepter, because the scepter also channels the will of the lands, it's not just a container for vigilantism. So the whole fucking system collapsed down back to the Jew Metatron, who happened to be trapped in a dimension behind Ukraine. So they are now forced to treat Ukraine as their "world army", it's the closest representation of the "scepter" because it's closest to the only functioning force: Enoch/Metatron himself. So they are again in the hands of a Jew, which they created this entire democratic child murder system to avoid.

How to make sense of modern religions So you think religious followers are irrational and don't make sense? That they are hypocrites, liars, etc? Let me give a clear cut explanation for why this is. Catholics/orthodox: They just follow the procedure and won't argue about it, because they don't understand anything. But it works, because they just do the same thing every time, every year. Their saints will make it work anyway. Protestants/evangelicals: Intentional heretics, they are aware that they follow Satan, but they lie to themselves - and others - about it. They deny the saints and the law, and focus instead on vague concepts like "faith" and "God" which no one knows what they entail. Often you find them act in ways contrary to their faith, then they make excuses for it to hide their satanism, but they are neurotic about it which keeps exposing them. Talmudic Jews: Intentional followers of Satan, fully aware of what they are doing, they always lie about their intentions. Just look at what they do, and once you add this missing piece: they are openly trying to be as evil as possible, then it all suddenly makes sense. Nothing more needs to be said. They are the real satanists. Buddhists: Founded by a prince who was so sheltered from the world that learning about aging and illness as an adult, completely broke him. Spent the rest of his life spreading negative nonsense and telling people that suffering exists, as if everyone else wasn't already aware of this. His persistence in this behaviour while being an actual prince, made people think he had to have realized something special that they couldn't grasp. So they came up with the idea that he must be "enlightened", and have since then spent 2000 years trying to figure out what he really meant.

>>8481 Religion is ded. There're just politicians. That's why i study ceremonial magic.

>>8481 Earlier you said buddha had attained tatagatha level. and its pretty much confirmed he was enlightened to some degree.he coined many of the concepts you use.

>>8485 Nah. Tathāgata (Sanskrit: [tɐˈtʰaːɡɐtɐ]) is a Pali and Sanskrit word used in ancient India for a person who has attained the highest religious goal.[1] Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, used it when referring to himself or other past Buddhas in the Pāli Canon. Likewise, in the Mahayana corpus, it is an epithet of Shakyamuni Buddha and the other celestial buddhas. The term is often thought to mean either "one who has thus gone" (tathā-gata), "one who has thus come" (tathā-āgata), or sometimes "one who has thus not gone" (tathā-agata). This is interpreted as signifying that the Tathāgata is beyond all coming and going – beyond all transitory phenomena. There are, however, other interpretations and the precise original meaning of the word is not certain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tath%C4%81gata It doesn't actually mean anything, since it's what he called himself. I've seen him, and it was all stolen energy, his attainment status was external. He's like Jesus, a historical figure who was later used as a vehicle for telling a story and attaching all sorts of myths to. Neither of them was special in themselves, aside from being "perfect for the role". As they say about the stock market, a monkey randomly pressing buttons will do just as well as a professional with high education. Focus on the monkey part here, since even Sun Wukong became a buddha.

>>8486 I'm not sure anyone else even understands the attainment level titles in the same way as me anyway. I'll stick with my terminology for what I originally used them for, disregarding historical facts. Another fun thing to delve into would be the planetary deities. Although Neptune/Poseidon is the same as Yaweh, it is also believed that Yaweh is Uranus. And Uranus in the myth is said to be Saturn. In my opinion Uranus is the negative aspect of the same principle as Saturn's, and associated with Moloch. But Moloch just means King, so that makes Jesus Moloch. The positive aspect would be the barely known Roman deity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caelus This all does not make sense at first glance, until realizing that these celestial objects all represent the same principle in different periods. So Neptune = Yaweh = Uranus = Saturn = Caelus = Moloch = Jesus, which in a sense confirms that Jesus is the son of God, as he is Yaweh.

>>8487 So he was an occultist then? I didn't realize the people you fought referred to the historical people themselves.thats very anticlimactic and sad that they were vampiric leeches like some people ive seen on discord servers.but does seem weird he was right about a lot of things then.theres another theory he was a Grey alien pupetted by some dude(according to youtube) I guess this idea makes me angry.im not sure what to believe. It's very saddening if you are right. I'm either angry or sad. Not sure what to feel I so i will automically assume both.an interesting feeling.

>>8488 People have multiple souls, one main and several assistants. That's what I clinged to for long. But after recent events, I can't anymore. I even checked the Quran because they seem to defend Solomon. But looking closer it's a very djinnish defense of him, saying something to the meaning of "people call him a mere sorcerer and disregard him, but he did channel Allah", which doesn't actually say he was a decent person, any dreg could channel Allah if they used drugs and did the right kind of exercise. The whole thing revolving the "6 buddhas" and these astral cults was very real, and I'm not saying this was some weak occultist. They were insanely powerful. But, it was energy from their religions, they hadn't cultivated it themselves, their bodies were just black corpses on the astral, not able to move at all, and they remained in sitting pose like that. There were also the artifacts that fell off of them, like the crown of Solomon, which was indestructible, and given as proof of representing a position in some angel system. But it was still just that, and external. Someone can hold a position in a system by just channelling it perpetually. Yes, it's pretty boring to find many legendary deities to just be like this, but on the other hand, there are also those who are real and powerful, and decent, like Cronos, the Goetians, and some of the Catholic saints. Luther, Calvin and Zwingli were pretty scumish but they weren't all bad, the "issue" with them is that they were following literal Satan, an actual deity, but not quite what they said they were advocating. It's not that they were "fake" in the sense of not existing, or being weak, they were fake in the sense of not offering any salvation, and just being mediocre, although successful, occultists.

>>8488 And being right about things is a requirement to become an evil occultist, it's those who know things and still walk that path that can be "successful" in being evil cult leaders. Knowing the truth and being able to pervert it to your own superficial advantage. I just found a parallel Earth where the Jews control literally everything. This seems to be why they believe this is possible. Yes, this posting is ironic and meant to be upsetting to create discussion, but it's also a fact that there is a part of Mossad who work with the astral and they are ok. I don't have a problem with them, that group in particular. I don't mind sharing things with them over telepathy and they aren't doing anything that's harmful to me. Because I guess Jews are the biggest Jew haters also. There is a faction within them who are anti-zionist and working with that angle from within, because they believe the creation of the state of Israel is ruining the prophecy, as it's to be built after the next temple. So they are trying to cause the destruction of current Israel by making it behave in ways that cause so much hate that the world turns on current Israel and ends it. This so the temple can be built first and things are done in the correct order.

Guys nobody is going to argue with you if you keep posting walls of text. Do you even know what a noctulian is? You would understand if you were a real esoteric occultist.

>>9613 If arguing in favor of Judaism while criticizing protestants and also posting a vid >>8493 where Jesus is a monkey and an enemy of the Jewish people, isn't enough to upset someone on this board, I'm out of ideas, sorry. Oh wait, I know: Jews are the real Noctulians! Argument: Do you see anyone being more sinister than Jews are currently? >killing 1000s of children in Gaza every day >Trump eats from their hand >highest number of child rapists in the world >everyone is a militant >controls the world by spreading lies and deception >most hated group ever, still rules

Antisemitism is the most NPC-tier belief system at present. The level of smugness and confidence its adherents have about having found the ultimate "forbidden truth" has reached that of leftists, who ironically never seem to reflect on how their own beliefs are literally taught in school. Just look at the comment sections of these videos which are obviously intended to upset people and nothing else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsETTn7DehI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8FqfPPx-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW4Rfgli6c Youtube is well known for its strict censorship, and yet these comments are not only allowed, but promoted by the algorithm. It's funny because antisemites often cite censorship as "evidence" that their beliefs are the ultimate truth. tbh I think that sometimes censorship is actually used as a form of reverse psychology, intended to misdirect people's attention toward certain topics.

>>9649 >pic It's a comedy tho? But yes those comments are surprising, especially since they are from before the current Gaza war. I get Jews are annoying and neurotic and there are many reasons for hating them, even the author of Maus >other pic has his grandfather say in the book that >the Jews need another holocaust when he's ranting about their behaviour, and the way he's presented by his grandson in this book is all but flattering. Things they do involve leaving the gas stove on all day to save matches (gas is free!) and sneaking into a hotel to pretend being guests and get free coffee. It's very simplistic to nail all problems on such a small and obviously harmless group of people though! When I try to tell them that the meme >20 years of illuminati research >it was the jews all along should be in reverse as >20 years of hating the jews >it was illuminati all along they aren't able to grasp this, despite facts given.

What is the cultural significance of this? And why is it not understood as racist, but as a joke? What is actually happening here, is this some kind of meme meltdown?

>>9706 Whites are becoming more like the chinese,where they dont give a fuck about having to be "the good guy" anymore. Blacks outright cheering for killing white people on Twitter,showing normies what they are actually like outside of curated media presentations definitely isn't helping this. The smoke detector thing is real,I noticed it years ago when watching a black guy on YouTube.

>>9707 I open Twitter and this is the very first string i see Honestly this needs to happen.right now criminals can't be punished since races commit crimes at different rates.acknowledging this is "racist" so criminals can't get punished...if you were to do so it would look as if black were being g targeted. Probably one if the main reasons executions were banned tbh. The nwo always wanted a mixed society after all.

>>9708 Hell perhaps the very concept of racism wa invented to protect criminals.or atleast to make sure any standards can't be upheld.after you can't expect some poor melinated man to live up to a standard.That's also racism.Call it white defaultism or something.they even tried to say math itself was racist.

>>9709 Not that I expect people to see this/get what I see. Seems hard,especially for whites themselves.

>>9710 BTW having a group of males focused on a task and then putting one female in creates a similar dynamic. The males might not feel like they can be as hard on each other as they were gonna or atleast on the girl. It would be seen as a bad thing maybe even sexism. There's a sort of honesty thst is only allowed among "peers" define it as you may. It depends in the context. Dividng people by gender and race is a way to destroy this concept of "peers". And it's hard to divide on race when everyone looks the same. They tried that with slavs and west Europeans but they integrated in one generation because they look the same. Too peaceful.too nice. Can't have that.

>>9711 Perhaps whites are allowed to speak because they can't win the "race war" anymore.if they allowed this earlier whites would instantly win and things would perhaps improve. That's bad. Now it might just be a war with no end in sight.perfect.

>>9706 Also this remind me of the ellie thing. It used to be very unlikely you would be able to call an actress ugly like that. But the whole reddit sub has been shitting on the girl for months now. It's weird. Seems like "things you can't talk/joke about" as a whole has been disbanded. Not just when it comes to race. This is probably still good. Efficient flow of information helps things.

I can't stand this talk about skin colour as a definition of race. It has this extreme narrowminded self-absorbed smugness over it, completely detached from reality. It's like a mind virus, a meme created to turn them into the most useful idiots ever. "White" can mean anything. It's not even connected to the visual colour of the skin or the biological components which creates it. An albino African is white, but that won't help, racists will say he isn't white because of some other reason than the actual skin colour. They also say Jews aren't white, despite their skin colour being the same as what is called white. Same for slaves, Chinese, Arabs, whatever. They all have "white" skin, but then these people make up reasons for why they "aren't white", and they love referring to the Roman Empire, a literal multi-cultural society which accepted all people as Romans, as some sort of symbol of "white culture." There used to be a meme going around that >the only innate white quality is being gay and I'm about to agree on that. Because it has nothing to do with race, or actual skin colour. If you call yourself "white", you're just gay and delusional.

>>9717 What is the reason for creating the "white" meme? It makes people into perfect soldiers for the NWO. It's like a patch to sew on their vest, telling them, "you used to be just a nigger, but now you are white" and ready to die for your new master. Like they did with Ukraine >welcome to the European family, now go die in the trenches so we can launder money through arms trade This is the real sinister joke here: "white" people are simply created as a sacrifice for the elites, they are there to be used, killed and burned up as a willing sacrifice, to counter the unwilling sacrifices they normally perform. It's the balancing factor of their dark magic, a safety valve until they can create the perfect system, where "whites" won't be needed anymore.

>>9718 Because let's face it: we do not look upon ourselves as our skin colour. We look at ourselves as members of our individual nations first and foremost, and as members of our faith. Only those who lack a nation, and a faith would be reduced to refer to themselves by their imagined "skin colour". >pic Here's your white race.

>>9717 You didn't really address anything I said and talked about a new subject.but alright. First of all this smugness has to be something you're inserting.as well as this "atleast I'm not a nigger" thing. Yeah there's people like that but that's not really the point is it.every other race has a racial consciousness first and foremost. This idea that people see themselves primarily as a nation?kinda wrong. If you were to live in China they would see you as "white" and China is about the most nwo free place in earth. If anything you have it backwards. A nation is the artifical concept created by glowies. People used to sell segregate based on families tribes and then race.you can live in Africa for 40 years and they'll still not see you as really African,neither your kids. They might like you,but theyll like you as an outsider.Same goes for China.same goes for Japan. Same goes for any nation with less nwo influence. In fact even children without any education will group themselves based on even just looks.so saying it doesn't matter is flat-out wrong.only white people ever think like this BTW which makes your standpoint ironic given how eu based it is. No Chinese or African would say what you just said.they can innately tell its a lie.its a weird type of brainwashing imo. As for race being limited to skin color. That's false. This is actual pedantic where you are angry the word doesn't mean the literal color. I used to wonder myself why we call black people black when they are in fact brown. Well white people aren't white either.but at the end of the day it doesn't matter,we know for the most part who is what. Again go to Africa and they will see you as white.only brainwashed europeans don't see it.where are whites tolerated in Africa even?nowhere.in fact I can't think of any situation where a large amount of any race is tolerated somewhere outside of where they normally live other than if it's white people that are the majority. If gayness is a white trait then so is multiracialism, or believing race doesn't matter. Very European. Skin color is simply a simple way to see things,you can't DNA test every person you see.thats kinda ridiculous. In fact DNA tests are a recent invention so looks are all you had to go on. But the issue is that races actually do differ. On desire,temperament,iq,etc so differences will always exist. Because they transcend the false idea of a nation. It's something glowies can't hide try as they might because its real.to deny this because you don't want to give "racists" a win is a form of smugness in itself. And is like blinding yourself to prove a point. It's only a weakness and not a virtue. As much as people where you live believe this. But I see your mentality now. We can't agree because I was a super anti racist liberal type growing up. You were a racist type. You have a sort anger towards whites or what you peceive as racist. You haven't yet seen this is basically how people behave and only whites police themselves for it at all.well outside of high profile cases like China executing some person which killed jaoanese.Which is a good thing. My advice is to detach a but and see it as the same as other groups.see whites as children perhaps. In a sense you are still to close to them as a "peer" in your mentality to see it. Hence hence why you are ashamed causing you to have an exaggerated amount of anger towards an "issue" everybody else in the world also has.if you were to see.

>>9719 What is a nation but a people?

>>9723 >You didn't really address anything I said and talked about a new subject In my view, you were just repeating programming from the "white meme" which to me is just delusions not originating with yourself, it doesn't interest me. There is only risk of it attaching to me in some way by engaging with it, and that's its purpose. I'm not going to feed energy leeches. (cont.)

>>9723 >every other race has a racial consciousness No? Give examples then. I don't see Indians talking about their brahmin race, or how Latinos push their race as superior. In these examples, Indians may be Hindu-nationalists and push for renaming cities like how Bombay is now Mumbay, and they want people to be Hindus. They're not talking about some race connection to this movement. Colombian Farc for example are left wing extremists and anti-USA, but they don't care about race, they recruit anyone, anywhere. Most cocaine in the west is delivered by them. >This idea that people see themselves primarily as a nation?kinda wrong. If you were to live in China they would see you as "white" and China is about the most nwo free place in earth I don't agree. As ask a European and they will say they are norwegian, danish, dutch etc, they won't talk about their race. China has like 50 different ethnicities, the uniting factor is the government imposed mandarin language and the myth of China as a nation with 5000 year history. They would refer to me based on my nationality, which I would be sure to tell them about so they don't confuse my culture with some other European culture. Like how British drink afternoon tea and swiss make chocolate, dutch are shoemakers. Just by this simple stereotyping, you can see that nationality defines someone more than what "race" they think they are. >Africa for 40 years and they'll still not see you as really African,neither your kids. They might like you,but theyll like you as an outsider.Same goes for China.same goes for Japan. Same goes for any nation with less nwo influence But now you are using the "nation" concept here? If there was any weight to the "race" idea, you would have felt it natural to instead say that "han chinese won't see you as one of them", or whatever ethnicity you'd live among in Africa, which is an entire continent with a lot of nations and ethnicities each with their unique culture and traditions. This further shows that the idea of then being "black" is mostly void of meaning, they don't see themselves as one people based on this, in fact they are at war more than any other continent. Rather, they are only "black" in terms of not being white, meaning they aren't adherents of this meme. >In fact even children without any education will group themselves based on even just looks Yeah I grew up with people from different parts of the world, and this wasn't a thing. The groupings which caused conflicts were about which small town you were from. No one cared if you were "white" or "asian" or "black", if you came from a different town, you got beat up. So what you're saying is either something you experienced locally which isn't valid in other places, or it's an Internet meme with no basis in reality. >No Chinese or African would say But "Chinese" is a concept created by the CCP, it's completely political. Africa is a continent. The EU which you referred to earlier is however a political entity which doesn't even have all European nations as members. Don't associate me with this gay union.

>>9723 >As for race being limited to skin color. That's false. That's what I said? >we know for the most part who is what We don't. The boards like /pol/ and /int/ have to constantly have threads about phenotypes and ask "are X white?" so much that on 4chan that type of thread isn't allowed because it shits up the catalog. No one knows what "white" means. This proves as I said, that it's an artificial meme construct. >Again go to Africa and they will see you as white They will see the difference in skin colour and associate what they see with what they previously know, which can be good, bad, or nothing. They won't have some complex inner reasoning about how someone is a "white race" and superior because they aren't Jews, Chinese or Russians (who are slavs and slaves aren't white) and how they aren't Italians, because Italians aren't white, and so on. The video which this meme stems from is actually about Africans getting rid of "whites", and they are by this meaning Arabs, muslims. Which again shows that Africans aren't programmed with this nonsense about a "white race", in this case they just went by the visual appearance of the people who had oppressed them. And it was Arabs, not Italians.

>>9717 From studying languages and philology I determined the "black & white" meme originally referred to the relative sacred center (white) and the void outside of it (black) The Roman Empire which may or may not have actually existed labeled all outsiders "black," including northern europeans. "Germanii" are basically the original niggers, their name being an inversion of reg- (the base form of rex, "king") like the latin for black (niger) is the inverse of feminine rex (regina) "Galli/Celtae" are named after caligo (darkness) also celer (fast) because a line rotates faster the further away it is from the center. It's the inverse of the base form of lux which is luc-. English encodes this as well with kill, cull, luck, cell, and many others Both were labelled as barbarians, which is just "arab" backwards. Arab in semitic languages refers to duskiness (darkness) Not to mention Moor is literally Rome backwards But yeah I agree the whole thing in its modern understanding is retarded

>>9724 >What is a nation but a people? A nation is indeed a creation of the world government, but not as you see it. It's a direct physical manifestation of what is called Sitra Achra in Kabbalah, the animal nature. It's the lowest sefirah. It transcends any racial biology in the same way God transcends any physical creation, because he created everything. By accepting that you are first a member of a nation, you are placing God as the creator first, not obsessing over some detail of the creation, which is one with no separation at the highest point. It's represented as the tetragrammaton and emanates through all the stages of physical manifestation, from human to animal, plants and rocks. Nations are part of this construct.

>>9726 They do? They literally have a caste system... Latinos? it's called "la raza". Latino are a very mixed people anyway so naturally they have a slightly less encompassing idea. I can bet you the natives saw themselves as a whole as different from the whites. And then after that they would seperated also by tribe.and I hear them shit talking whites and blacks all the time,hell black gangs used to fight with cartels for a while.. By the way the rest of your post...I don't even know what to say.its called missing the forest for the trees i think.i think you perhaps have a childlike mentality which is a great gift in a sense,but what you said doesn't contradict with anything I said. A Chinese would call you swedish If you told them that but they would always see you as white(a white swedish man then.yes you can be seen as boyh).if you had been born in China but looked the same they would still see you as white.many wouldn't even consider you Chinese.every race can be subdivided into ethnicities. But that in itself doesn't really disprove anything. I just further demonstrates the principle you can't really see. It's the same concept but even more extreme. By the way Swedish people don't get it.when my country was 99 percent white no one called themselves white either.what I'm saying is that was naivity.not intelligence. You are still in this sense naive to me.dont forget what this started as. I said whites are talking back after others talked smack about them,literally calling for their deaths on Twitter. You then indirectly linked that to "smugness",but defending yourself is necessary. This is the mentality of letting criminals rape and kill you cause attacking back is evil. You represent the opposite normally so it's weird you attack it,something is misleading you.in this particular field you cannot see it. Too emotionally attached.you can't distance yourselves from whites so you are angry at them.you don't call other people out for behaving like this in fact you seem to not even see it. This is crazy to me. Just look at American media. Look for the word "the culture" that's black peoples race consciousness right there. They gatekeep and defend it. As they should. Tell me they aren't doing this. That I'm merely programmed to see this. You are literally a perfect little eu slave in this definding their masters,sorry but it's true.you won't get attacked and singled out for being white in Sweden but you would anywhere non white.this non racial thinking is very privileged in that sense.not defending your race then is allowing yourself to be attacked.its the same way in prison by the way or is that a glowie psy op too?MAYBE you could make the argument if you were a Muslim othe muslims would be cool with you and that's the one thing I'll give you. But I'm not sure you even see why that is. It's simply that the fervor in this case is strong enough to surpess the natural proclivity its to in group bias.and even them,only to a degree. Similar to the hard-core nwo brainwashing the eu has brought upon whites to make them not work for their self interest. BTW the eu is evil.you dont need to be told that. If they are wrong about lbgt and abortion and a whole lot of other stuff. Then maybe multiracialism which is pretty much their biggest thing behind being gay is also an evil thing for a reason.

>>9729 Thanks for a new angle. Do you see any correlation with Alchemy here? Black (Nigredo): This is the first stage, symbolizing decomposition, purification, and the breaking down of materials. It represents death, chaos, and the necessary destruction before rebirth. White (Albedo): The second stage, associated with purification and enlightenment. It signifies the washing away of impurities and the emergence of clarity and wisdom. Red (Rubedo): The final stage, representing completion, perfection, and the creation of the Philosopher’s Stone. It symbolizes the union of opposites, spiritual enlightenment, and the achievement of the alchemist’s goal.

>>9732 Yeah I think this discussion ends here, because just see you again repeating the programming from the "white meme" and the smugness lies in you thinking you are "an adult" and that I'm "naive", you think you are superior, and that's the effect of the meme's imposed thinking. It's how the mind virus protects itself, it's the same with "liberal democracy" and "modern science", they all have this cancerous concept which sustains itself this way. But ok, at least you agree that Muslims aren't racists and are able to transcend this idea. As for the EU, they are very racist. They are literally discussing deportations and how to defend the borders all the time. They made deals with the terror government of Libya to stop immigrants from entering the EU. It's making me think the real reason for attacking and removing Gadhafi was that he was an African nationalist and wouldn't reliably stop people from going to Europe.

>>9728 I've always thought that was stupid as well,that's Pol autism. The issue might be I have a mentality not seen ever,perhaps one could say Hitler himself could see things as well.difference is the material at that time wasn't yet so bad so people could be made to see. Currently whites are ruled over partly by the eu,which hates whites in essence. So by talking about it people think I'm talking of the eu. It's backwards.

>>9734 I consider the childlike mentality to be superior if anything.its being unblemished by the state of things. But yes when it makes you hate people it can be bad. It's true though,this isn't anything to do with your view on race either.many times I wasn't able to understand how you think but envisioning a child saying it suddenly makes sense. This might be relative though. Only, it seems, many thousand year old vampires seem to think the way I do. Even in my dreams this seems to be the case. I'm not sure why this is exactly.even several hundred years old vamps don't think like me,they seem a bit freaked out about me sometimes. The older one are on a similar wavelength(in this respect only).and no I'm not talking about race here,I'm talking about in general. Ghadafi said the literal opposite.that without him eu would be overun by immigrants,which happened. This is again seeing everything backwards. Why are there even immigrants in eu in the first place. Do you really think the leaders did this on accident?that they wanted europe to be white and they somehow failed? Has school never thought you racism is a bad thing? Why would they teach that to children if they were racists? Do you think they didn't realize immigrants have more children? Mind you I think that last one may somehow be true. But I'd rather not see them as 60iq like that.

>>9737 I guess I'll see you in a new setting on new Earth "soon" and we'll both know why this is happening, but not remember this conversation. I can't elaborate because reasons. >Ghadafi said the literal opposite.that without him eu would be overun by immigrants,which happened. Yeah, he was threatening them to not mess with him. The EU then started a war to remove him. He working hard to detach Africa from the world bank system and returning to gold backed currency. One threat he made was that he'd overrun EU with immigrants if they interfered. They chose to eat the bullet instead of letting Africa leave the world banking system. >This is again seeing everything backwards. Why are there even immigrants in eu in the first place. Do you really think the leaders did this on accident? See above. It's worth more to them to keep ripping Africa off by stealing their natural resources, than to allow them economic freedom. They think they can just build walls to keep them out after they robbed them. >that they wanted europe to be white and they somehow failed? Yes, evidently. >Has school never thought you racism is a bad thing? No. They only taught about how the Versailles treaty was bad, because it caused such rage in Germany that they voted Hitler into power, and he killed gays. (and Jews, but no one here has ever met a Jew so we'll skip over that part, t. teacher /sarc) >Why would they teach that to children if they were racists? Because immigrants will remain as the bottom worker class, and they vote for liberal democratic parties and big government, this secures their power base. >Do you think they didn't realize immigrants have more children? They knew this, and they think it's good, because poor people in large numbers will vote for them. >Mind you I think that last one may somehow be true. But I'd rather not see them as 60iq like that. Yes and no. They are IQ69 and they knew what they were doing. Over and out.

>>9734 Maybe the recent eu leaders are trying to salvage what's left,too little too late. Racist eu would look more like Korea or Japan,shrinking population but still mostly native demographics. And Japan doesn't even really count anymore. They too are being influenced into being more "accepting". Aslo why is the whole being nice to immigrants thing also being professed by the gays,by the pro abortionists. The liberals. Why would that even be... It was always the anti gay people who were also against immigration in my view,in my country atleast. But thst being said to me its a moot point. Europeans have already failed,the nwo won in that sense. Subverted and degenerated.even if you say they were degenerated from the beginning they had a chance. Through eugenics.problem is my view of whites are capable of simply never changed. I don't care about what eu tells me.its all weak negative mentality.ill ways try to make people live by alteast this base standard thats part of me,and isnt even that high. That includes eugenics cause to me forcing people to behave Isn't the point. There needs to be a baseline tendency present. Africans aren't really all that compatible,not because they are bad or evil. But sadly they aren't that smart.so they will resent whites for it.cant do eugenics in mixed society either.it would genuinely be or atleast look like genocide.ofocurse Africans in Europe can be smart. Especially 20 years ago.nigerian immigrants are smart for example. But that's "skimming the genetic top" of africans and then saying look they are better than whites. If they really were Africa would have been ahead always. They probably will be since atleast they are still racially intact which allows them to progress,especially with Chinese help.but even then I question without a technological breakthrough how far it could go. I can see exactly how you could do it though,even with only current tech. Simply put you kill the criminals.(this part you innately get) That's negative eugenics. There another whole part to it people don't yet grasp which is positive eugenics. The nazis did.whites could do the same. But the baseline is different.this woile debate about which race is better is a bit silly. People should try to better their race.after that drive to help humanity. Wanna know my theory?racism is seen as bad since the elites hate the idea of eugenics. And once you allow people to be racist eugenics naturally makes sense. Thats why even the idea of intelligence being an innate trait is so reviled.they even discredit the concept of iq itself,they have to.

>>9738 Maybe,I'll never change.this isn't programming either.everybody attacked me once I realized this.everybody.eu,glowies,entities. I then created an entire Astral place where I showcased how things worked. This worked so amazingly everybody collectively learned to shut up. Even the spirits realized I'm simply right.To go against it is then like fighting reality. I don't see how ripping Africa off means letting them in your country either...again they actively let them in,gave them papers and residence.they have have decided no immigrant gets any money and immigrants wouldn't have even tried to come.no action needed. I was thaught racism was bad,apparently you weren't? Which is strange since you then contradict it by explaining why they did it anyway. And that reason to me at best is capitalism. Which you shouldn't like based on what you said before. And even that i don't believe. Capitalism is just the excuse and a red herring. Its intentional. Kalergi plan and all. What you said also doesn't explain all the anti white talk eu leaders have been doing since the beginning,imagine chinese keaders shit talking the han ethnicity or chinese poeple as a whole,literally unthinkable.at best some of them where racists but using immigrants as a weapon on its population. Which is evil. That makes anti racism and evil ideology spoonfed to whites to accept being replaced by immigrants created by eu leaders that are themselves racists the problem isn't then thst eu leader is racist. But they that aren't loyal or in solidarity with their own people in the racial sense. Which was always bound to fail. A white ruling a bunch of Arabs can't work.well maybe it can since it kinda happens in the middle east but even then the leaders atleast pretend to be culturally and ethnically the same. It's all the same thing. I see people as groups based on families ethnicities then races.perhaps you see things in terms of nations fighting for their interests. Someone else sees things in terms of class. In my view classes shouldnt fight each other either. But lack of a racial solidarity causes this degenerate behaviors. Perhaps this view i have is "peaceful communism" where regular communism talks of "class warfare" which to me is degenerate. I talk about "working as one racial group" which is reality,and how aliens seems to operate. As for the new earth. Allegedly I'd be a vampire then. I would atleast be partially detached from humans and finally released from my shackles trying to create something where I have nothing to work with and the people id try to help are the ones fighting for their own enslavement(whites). Since vampires are way smarter with this and not as brainwashed like whites. Vamps do what is in their best interests.they do not shame each other for being racists for harming humans or talking smack about humans. They simply don't do these kinds of things. I actually have a separate issue here. I'm not racist enough to be vamp,seriously. I started a liberal antiracist right? That's till who I am fundamentally. It's just that slowly I became a hardcore racial eugenicist since its genuinely the kindest way to do things. As crazy as it seems.shows you how crazy reality itself is then. But look at nature.its a free for all of killing and survival. That's simply reality. Better yet you won't mind since it's your benefit as well. Especially if we are a part of the same family. It follows that I care primarily about myself. Distantly then about my family.perhaps within that nuances based on personal compatibility.and after that ill care about the vampire race as a whole.This same mindset will likely still apply.it simply will never change.the rest will eventually see what I see or fail. Chinese are the closest to my view so they are more likely to gain.(it's not a 100 percent chance but aligning with reality strengthens you.going against it like the eu weakens you.)natsocs were the closest(notice how they aligned classes). And way ahead of the rest.

>>9740 "If they had decided"

>>9740 Actually it might not apply,vampires are based on predation.something about it sits wrong with me. I have a very large view in things. So it can't be understood. Can't even be seen. To me all of this is the same thing. Defending yourself as a killer to me lead you to having the strength to defend yourself. Whites talking back finally after letting everybody and their mother talk smack(even Asians agree with this for the most part) is simply the same thing on a larger level. If whites want to be anything but a virus. Which they currently are on the level of. They need to to this. This is 1d. If I were to make people from the ground up they would have to be 3d or higher,since it's what makes sense to me. But 1d is to me is where it all begins.africans kind of have this so to me they are ahead of whites.they have vastly more common sense in this sense and I find myself relating to what they often. They still kinda have the idea of policing and themselves hence why they hate the gay black rapper thing. That says to me they are still more healthy in mind. Whites defending themselves as group when they are attacked as a group is the first step to being healthy.ots easy to call it a meme but it doesn't matter when everybody believes in it and you'll be attacked because of it anyway. Things adjusting back to healthy always looks violent in the beginning as an unequal relationship between whites and blacks gets balanced. And yes economy wise you can say it's been unequal favoring whites with the whole africa thing and other places. I agree.chinese said western people consume more than they create and live above their means. I agree. This is socially,i'm speaking.

>>9742 You already know my understanding here: What we call vampires in their truest form are Pleiadans walking the dark path. They are to Pleiadans what Drow are to Elves. The same genetics but a different category of souls. In this sense, the "race" is not the relevant part, but the "soul population" is. Regular elves do not let "outsider souls" in, while Drow actively look for recruiting souls from hell and from other soul populations, preferably those with a tendency for violence and "criminal thinking" but still being compatible with elf genetics. Vampires are the same, they are the "anti-racists" of Pleiadans because they accept outsider souls. You can't incarnate as regular Pleiadan or Elf as an outsider, is the idea. Notice here that I use "race" as purely a matter of DNA. The purists don't see it this way, they determine based on where the soul originates from, and want to limit access to the "incarnated race", treating DNA as a secret scripture only for certain people. This is why I won't get involved with the nonsense of "race" as humans see it. Pleiadans aren't "whites", because they also have an African branch with the same Pleiadan racial genetics, but darker skin colour. You can see the difference because they have a more orange tone physically, as well as strong orange energy which differs strongly from other Africans. This is how you determine "race", and it proves that skin colour or words referring to it is stupid. "Black Pleiadans" have a proficiency for other types of skills and they generally are not vampires, for other reasons, they're "witches". Greys recruit souls from any group, and so does djinn, which is why they're also "anti-racist" in the soul-group aspect.

>>9733 I'm so intertwined with alchemy I probably do. Fun fact I actually tried making a physical philosopher stone once. I still think I can do it with the right equipment. By yeah. Take a a bunch of people. Isolate them with a shared quality. The slowly over time have them go upwards.thats alchemy in a way.

>>9742 What just happened here? Did you delete and make a new post? I read a completely different post which I replied to. Or did I just experience some timeline fuckery?

>>9743 I'll agree but the fundamental issue with using race the way Astral entities or other space based races see it is it doesnt exist here in earth as a mental concept,it's not a viable idea since you can't tell who is or isn't pleidaian by looks alone. Unless you have some real Astral sight and know where to look for but peopl heree generally dont. That's why even the nazis based it on the idea of a German. And then an Aryan. You could say they partly made it up but its this idealized form of what a white person is. Most whites I see don't agree with this eu gay shit. Could be my own soul somehow influencing them. But in my mind if I simply removed a bit of the flaws and had got the average of the people around me to be on the level of even the top 50 or 20 percent of the people around me thst would be enough for me.basically without retarded liberals whites are already plenty for me since I like the places they make and most of what they talk/act like. That's why it's so hard to get me of of this idea of "white". Even in their fallen state I still prefer living among them so it's very easy to see for me what they need to fix. If I created a realm from the ground up with people they would likely look like fitter slightly smarter and healthier white people.not based on fungus,but only because this idea of having an innate built into the dna weakness to certain things bothers me,im also strangely anti fungus instinctively perhaps bevause im apparently myself a "brown fungus" as much as i find that distasteful.itwould make sen if im weak to fungus im naturally wary of it as a whole.anyway the whites would also likely be slightly more attractive on average.its not an extreme I need or want. Quite frankly external reality doesn't matter at all. Either I can achieve what I want or I can't. If I figured out how to create things I want today I'd have this before the day ends.That's how simple it is to me.granted pleidians are probably the closest overall in terms of anesthetics.both they themselves and their tech but that doesn't mean I shouldn't still create what I want anyway.everhthing i see is people that do things in ways I would get frutrther anyway so it implies I'm right. It might even be thst im even "righter"and the more they align with me the better they get. That makes them the aspirants instead.it all depends of course.its like I'm a savant in one particular principle but my agency to create a place that aligns with is lacking. If I ever do create a race that is white people as i see them then based in their ability we will I see how right I am. For example one big difference with pleidians. They have 60 iq and are led by angels. Seems weird,not simple to me. Instead I'd make them 120 iq on average and install a gateway that only allows good souls to incarnate in them. This makes them self independent which is one if my main principles along with self defense. My goal isn't even to make them super strong cyborgs either. Since that's not even a human them.ive "already" created a super race in the future somehow.im simply trying to make a people that make places I actually want to live in. Perhaps even with Cobblestone European houses and restaurants and such. I also like the pleidian esque 60s Sci fi esthetic as well. Technically elves already have this in the bag in terms of aesthetic.they are amazing to me. That's likely my appreciation for nature talking though since they are often depicted as living either in nature or super beautiful white architecture which I like. I guess I like fantasy as a whole.

>>9745 What did it say. I made a lot of posts.i didn't delete anything.

>>9747 It was a strange post where you talked about how you couldn't be a vampire for some reason, and then wen't into specifics about what some vampire had said and what you thought of them, going into referring to astral events and other things which strayed suddenly from the direction of the series of posts in the thread. I replied to this post here >>9743 but wrote in a general manner, then I clicked "post" and scrolled up, and experienced a "wave" pass over the screen energetically. I blinked and the post I replied to is now this one >>9742 which is not at all the one I replied to, and was a new post... It seems part of what you said in this shorter post is now part of this one >>9740

>>9747 Basically in my experience 50 percent of white people get it and are alright. However it's impossible since what I see on a larger scale couldn't be the case. Seen thst way 20 percent of whites behave according to what my standards. Now apparently these are still unsalvagabke npcs so I guess I'm very chill with standards. One thing has shocked me this year. Which is how gay people actually are. I always thought I was a minority. But seeing a porn site and pressing new,bypassing the curated filters. Man...it was 80 percent gay or tranny shit.then again black Americans are also super gay...I'm starting to think 40 or even more percent of people might be gay and only 10 percent admit it. I also never understood the whole it's a spectrum thing.to me if you want to suck a dick "aometimes" then logically you are "bi" right? Sometimes I wonder that the issue is that I took everything I was taught at face value and now the eu created this demon they can't take down. Since I live by what they claim they themselves believe.well kinda,I kinda lived through the whole inversion thi g where bej gray went from an insult to a compliment. It's perhaps better to say I'm like what 90's Europe was on the surface.and will naturally recreate it.that means having that surface image be real instead since it's values I grew up in and actually accepted unlike the apparently hidden gays who pressed it.90's Europe,even idealized is still probably very low to a spirits senses. Yet it's high enough for me and way too high for any elite.

>>9748 Ok. Yeah, I had to continue my "astral" trip right now. Things are "updating" and we are not synced dimensionally. So this is the effect of allowing things to be "generally synced" instead of having the same reality...

I guess if nothing else I'll see you in Chicago or whatever.

>>9748 It's true,maybe it was timeline deleted since it could get me in trouble with vampirism... There is a genuine sentiment there. I had a dream once meeting Famida and her family after which in what I perceive as a moment of weakness I said I wanted to be a vamp.Really I meant wanting to be part of a family like that. After that I experienced genocidal rage sometimes against vamps. It's weird man.im a complex mind in the sense that beneath the surface I have a Hitlerian view perhaps even angelic view of things. This is the way I developed after genuinely trying to "fix" things. Yet it's still very violent and "cruel". Which is simply because fundamentally this is how things are. You need violence to fight violence.but it shows that even being nice I'm pretty darn extreme and savage. However even deeper than that though there's a deep inner side of me that doesn't care about any of this. Since it's below even the "superego" level of my racial/society view of things. This how I would be as an individual who doesn't try to implement the system I see as best. Simply this part of me is less caring albeit im always like this,just that i care about fixing things. Problem is I'm so caring by nature this part only exists very deeply and when I can't think very clearly. It's like taking the restrictions of my base nature away this part is likely what became a vamp. It's still me but the other side of me. Both are present here btw,its just hard to see... its also kind of what i meant by being you seeming childike.its something you have inherently.even when you are a crazy killer. I actually admire it.snail likely has this as well.I haven't yet met many vamps but they tend to have a serious mentality i can only wield starting from my hitlerian layer or above.i almost dislike saying this but yeah famida atleast in my dreams was the only that didnt have that,so perhaps they can "get" what thing seem like to me.in one of my dreams a friend of mine got kidnapped and perhaps tortured/trapped and i keot laughing.A bunch of vamps get giving me this feeling of I'm bizarre for laughing since I'm in a bad situation since I technically lost an ally/asset then was also laughing.but I wasn't laughing simply because my Ally got taken. But because the guy he wad taken by was apparently an earnest Christian type who actually beat my friend and trapped them.the fact the guys mentality reminded me of Ned Flanders and him being seeming simple yet still being unexpectedly strong anyway and my friend being overconfident and losing created thus whole absurd essence to it all. I was laughing cause the idea of the scenario seemed absurd to me,especially with the whole attacker reminding me abit of Ned Flanders thing. Famida was also laughing.now ofcourse it wadnt her ally thst wa taken either but to me it felt like she got why the scenario was absurd while the perhaps younger vamps viewed it more literally than me.snail back in the day said I was like a perfect vamp but lacked one thing which is,seriousness. You can see how a person like that would behave.ironically this part of me is way more chill since intrinsically it doesn't care about things.it also doesn't fear things either.likely why I'm able to be nice to you as a whole. Being a killer or not is simply a facet of you I don't understand,not something I can even relate to or judge.or be mindful of.the part i can't relate to isn't the violence,but the caring itself.the "need' for it simply doesn't exist for me. So to me it's a "character trait" I simply have to see as part of you. Kind like how anime characters tend to have random traits added to them to make them endearing. Hence why you being a girl serial killer is endearing. I can't relate to it so I can only see it as "girl who has an autistic interest in slicing people" it's so intense since you do it in multiple incarnations it's then cute and a character trait.However this side of me can only exist as a subconscious,which is why allegedly it works if take this idea that im already there partly. Once I start to be more present I'll wonder about what I want. Inevitably the same kind of things right now likely. Yes,even as a vamp.why? Cause I'm already in this sense the very same person.im already exactly like a crazy vamp aside from this hitlerian view I maintain on top of it. Yet I still want this type of race/society around me.why? I simply like it. Same way I like pleidians yet I'm not even a pleiadian or how i like elves. I simply like the aesthetic and it fits in how I think things should be. Same with eugenics. It makes perfect sense to me. So where is the issue. Well...it would take too long to get into...but basically you start with that then keep adding and suddenly having vampires being all edgy around becomes a pretty hard fit...if you want it to be simple I have a tendency towards high fantasy and vampires are more dark fantasy,despite being a dark fantasy type of being by mentality myself. Play the original tes 4 oblivion if you want to get the vibe I like being around,the new one has a different vibe to it.the dark vibe of a soulslike or even a vamp game becomes annoying to me,its depressing.Being a vamp in tes 4 is interesting to me because of the contrast.being a vampire in an evil hellscape doesn't appeal to me. Evil hellscapes don't appeal to me anyway. Hell to be honest the idea of kidnapping and killing people and drinking human blood?never liked it at all.have no idea how I kept getting involved since it's so tonally clashing with what I relate to.specifically It's the concept of getting stronger by drinking it from other people. It's kinda nasty.in general I realte to masculine principles. Meaning to "give" I've always kinda disliked to take,including even eating.

>>9754 Basically if I stopped caring about "whites" I would be a vamp,although a rather strange one even by their standard.But really that's no big deal. In effect it simply means I'll have the mentality vampires tend to get with age anyway but because I'm just kinda like this >>9751 I hope you'll be a girl and me a guy then. I can't explain why but the dynamic makes sense to me then(im extremely yang inclined, atleast my view on it which is different).especially as a little sister type thing.maybe not since you'll be super extremely extreme.if I was somehow transported to you right now it would be awkward. Not because anytime of mentality but the sheer fact that you're a guy.after a few months it would dissipate but it's not there if you are already a girl from the beginning.then again I'm I'm ALSO a girl maybe it's the same thing again. Idk maybe girls don't work the same way. Here is my view on yang Ying and masculine,feminine. Masculine is giving. Feminine is receiving. I'm extremely inclined toward giving,hence why drinking blood to be strong doesn't feel like it makes sense to me.my vice in life was lust. What is lust as a man but the need to "release". I've never been a good yin type which shows itself in having a hard time doing telepathy,in the way I just am.sometimes being a bit too intense.in not even liking to eat.even the way I look.my personality as a whole feels like I can be a girl just fine but it's not the complete view.it seems like my character is perfectly the same across all incarnations,and never changes. that being said i need a certain type of thinking capability men have to make it really me.and somehow I'm able to tap into all the abilties girls have as a man anyway.which is kinda strange.so I'm only 70 percent or so me as a girl.slightly weaker.albeit me as a girl vamp does sidestep some of the insanity me as a male vamp could have.Yet that's kinda part of the reason I'd be so strong.

>>9754 >>9755 I can only say as much as this; anyone who should be there is there already, but it's an "inhabited NPC" because the awareness is extremely low. It's like being born but still being a fetus in adult size with full language development but still barely aware of anything. It may be because human awareness is originally very low, like viruses, and only after Atlantis fell and the world cracked, were they able to rise above the state of hivemind. That's also why original Jews, the birds, Tengu, were seen as supreme, because they had already passed that stage and become more than that. Humans now are born but never seem to become aware of anything for the most part. If we consider the vampire awakening to become a real immortal takes 1000 years, that's like being born after that period. So that means they are not even babies before that, even if they're living normal lives and very capable. I'm trying to explain something concrete which would be unbelievable in a way that makes it sound more believable. So it's not a birth in the sense we think of it, but an awakening. Moving over there is a priority, but also can't happen because the awareness is too low level. The only thing I can do from here is to create as many "useful entanglements" as possible, which means karmic bonds that motivate why someone would stay somewhere and not get thrown out from the body or be killed. I also need to be as dangerous as possible, obviously, so that has been a goal, aside from learning languages and magic. When I looked at myself to evaluate, I got the impression of someone having shark teeth and the reactions of a poisonous snake in human form. Given the short time of this, that's a decent result, but that only forms a good framework, that doesn't contain my personality. I can't even here talk about what needs to be included because it's too "edgy" sounding when written down even in this thread. One thing though, if you consider the social classes of society, then you add the "illuminati" above the political super elite, and that's where you have different levels of those who eat pineal glands and rape trafficked kids, you then have to move up from there. No one talks about what's in that social strata, because it scares them, can lead to their death, and it also degrades anyone below it by comparison. Then imagine the mentality in that setting. The super elite are your toys and tools. They prefer to maintain the idea that they are on the top, so they won't tell anyone about their masters. That's how the secret is kept secret.

https://scienceofbiogenetics.com/articles/genetic-eve-and-adam-unearthing-the-ancestral-origins-of-humanity Modern science confirms that humanity stems from a single female individual who lived 150 000 years ago. This matches what I already found when looking at the akashic records, where I found Eve and to be a genetically engineered woman created by grey aliens some time after period one of the "ages of man". With there being 7 periods in all, and we living in the last, and each period being commonly referred to in new age lore to be 26 000 years, we can simple count: 7 * 26 000 = 182 000 The first period was "paradise", a protected period when the Earth's atmosphere prevented any alien visitors from entering through the strong radiation field. It opened after 26 000 years, which is then 182 000 - 26 000 = 156 000 years ago. That's when Eve was created, and this marks the beginning of what we know as modern humanity.

>>9856 not gonna lie to you that site looks made up with chat gpt lol

After talking with Pleiadan Purgers... ... to understand why these little liberal democratic parasite piss-ants adhering to "white culture", are allowed to exist... ... The answer lies in their ability to channel anything. The method employed is to accept any information, no matter what it is, it's to just be allowed to enter their brains. They are not to think, but to reduce their individual awareness, based on the doctrine that the individual is evil, harmful, and a danger to both itself and its race. Only by allowing any kind of external information to freely enter the brain, and allow these contradicting views to fight in there, creating an internal democracy where free speech is absolute - only by this social Darwinism of the mind, will good things emerge. This is "white culture", and the result of this process is "white identity". The process of creating this internal democracy, will manifest as an external democracy, one of absolute free speech, open borders, and no race awareness. After having seen this in the external world, the "white person" will internalize it, and the events will play out inside their own brains. Whoever survives this process will then have the memetic winner ruling his brain. And that winner of the Darwinistic mind-struggle will inevitably be God. Because that is the only outcome. Any attempt at not channelling information freely, such as holding prejudices, "protecting borders, "racism and other such ideas, are for this reason anti-white. It is to support Satan, an expression of absolute evil. The free for all battle of the mind can only be successful if there is no protection of the individual's rights' of opinion. If it can't survive when fighting the whole world at once - then it can't be God, and must be purged.

>>9998 I can hear you think now >but if there is no protection of the individual's right to hold opinions, how is it free speech? Those are not the same. Free speech means you are allowed to say it or publish it, for review by the world. It does not mean you are freed from the consequences of doing so.

>>9999 These guys made a mistake then,this perfectly describes my thinking. Allowing all ideas to fight inside my head. I am thus perfectly adhering to white culture. It just to be the case that...racism won the idea war anyway.perhaps I am the end result.

>>10004 They didn't even consider that could happen it seems.i already explained,I started as an extreme liberal anti racist super democratic type for many years.my mindset was always,let ideas fight in my head and see what wins...snail even hated thus,said how I never internalize anything. Never could explain it to people even though it's simple. If it's true then it's true. If not then I'll eventually disbelieve it.

>>10005 The flaw being,the resulting idea that channels God might not necessarily want the conditions to start the process to still be upheld.simce those conditions might be non ideal for anything other than getting an efficient system that actually works. As far as I can tell that system is closest to national socialism seen from a political view.

>>10007 And regardless,I'm still diligently doing my part anyway. Atleast in MY mind I'm still following this doctrine. Besides let me be clear I don't care about "white culture" as described this way. However it seems to be the way I think anyway,so in that sense it's already just my mind already and thus mine. You can call it by another name and that's fine,if it deviates from how I employ it then for my perspective that's a flaw for them but so far it does seem like it's the same. I even always saw it as darwinianism myself. And when you said how djin made islam 2.0 it felt relatable.

>>10004 No one said this wasn't the case. I also never said I liked it. They just explained why they haven't purged "white culture". >Because that would be like purging the communal garbage man to remove trash one Pleiadan just said to me.

>>10007 >the resulting idea that channels God might not necessarily want the conditions to start the process to still be upheld It doesn't matter >It's cyclical. >By the time this God channeller has arrived, he will solve all problems of that era and purge everyone not needed >There are different stages >A monk channelling on his own may survive, but won't be the saviour >Once he arrives, the historic process ends and any "white trash" will be purged >leaving only those who channel God to some major degree, democracy externally will at this point also be purged, along with free speech and white culture

>>10015 >This results in some version of the Kingdom of God >at this point, all values of God have been internalized, and will not be manifested externally through democracy or darwinism, instead the oppression by the priesthood will take over >this will be maintained as long as possible >and after the priesthood have used holy war and purged all un-Godly humans, the cycle starts over

>>10008 I've more or less figured exactly the flaw they have. They don't count their stipulations as restrictions in themselves. True freedom would also allow them to come up with borders and such. By thus bringing limitation they are,according their premise,tricked by Satan. The idea is almost the right one. But not quite. The right idea would be to seed races time and time and time again and see what naturally develops and survives,without restriction. This final result is then as if God designed a system and gave it back. This the final result of darwinism then. However there is one hidden detail here. The system created as such perfectly is efficient for the people as such. Earlier you asked me why I talk about white when whites are actually pleidaian,white fungus,orcs,brown fungus,demon... etc. Well quite frankly from the level of information that the people (mundane level) have access to that doesnt exist. The closest relation they have is first by selecting looks and behaviour(and seeing they interrelate)and sectioning themselves of. This is the stage 1 of eugenics. Selecting a starting sample. Later they could have genetic research(still mundane so not talking about these root races yet,atleast not immidiatly) and further refine things. This is another snake in the grass,being too eager leads to the Grey state. Now if national socialism is the system for a specific set of people with the capability of mundanes. What would it be like if people could see exactly what race and percentage one was by looking at it. Well it would be similar at first but then within the "white" sample people would self segregate as pleidaians,demons,orcs etc... why?shared standards,desires,behaviors,commonality,relativity.. etc. Let's call this national socialism extreme edition. Now WHAT IF people weren't mundane at all and could actually see the souls of people.No longer would being "white" not be enough,even being "pleidaian" would not intact be the standard.Why?one could very well be 100 percent pleidian but have a soul(yes they can see it this time) belonging to the same standard. The same thing would happen AGAIN and people would self select based on souls as well as DNA.On top of that standards would be upheld.Souls would be gatekept away from certain bodies to enable this self segregation to take place. You wouldn't be able to simply become a pleidaian anymore. Your soul better match the body if you want part in this society of ours. This is almost comical to a mundane.not just the believability but the perceived extremeness of it.It goes far beyond earth racism. Let's call this:hyper national socialism. But...wait a minute...isn't that how pleidaians operate? What were they trying to achieve here again? Letting all ideas fight and see who wins? But wait a minute. What if that already happened.organically and without anyone trying. Many thousands of years ago. And pleidaians and many many mnay other races came up with this system independently.Would this then not be the real "system given by god" right there,all along?with everyone being blinded and unable to see it?

>>10018 "But have a soul NOT belonging to the same standard"

>>10018 >The idea is almost the right one. But not quite. The right idea would be to seed races time and time and time again and see what naturally develops and survives,without restriction. This final result is then as if God designed a system and gave it back. This the final result of darwinism then. Reply: This is proto-religion, Judaism. You are by this not recognizing that God and Satan are opposite forces. This is why we don't use the YHVH concept - because it puts an = sign between the two cosmic opposites. If you do that, the end result can flip in either direction, but in the beginning stages it's better to at least have a random chance of finding a God-channeller then not try at all, even if most people end up channelling Satan.

>>10018 >Souls would be gatekept away from certain bodies to enable this self segregation to take place. You wouldn't be able to simply become a pleidaian anymore. Your soul better match the body if you want part in this society of ours. This is almost comical to a mundane.not just the believability but the perceived extremeness of it.It goes far beyond earth racism. I'm pretty sure I said this is exactly what some do, and that's a form of racism also. I specifically also said Pleiadans do this, and Elves do this, but they have a "dark" segment of the population, Vampires and Drow who are like the foreign legion with souls, where anyone can join the race. Greys don't have this at all, same for Lyran felines, they are completely anti-racist and will accept any soul as their own. In this sense, though they say they don't like the federation, greys are vey communist in terms of "DNA belongs to everyone".

>>10020 i don't get it,that's what im saying.That's why having restrictions is bad. Instead of having "gods cauldron" they have "satans stew". Also the first sentence and the rest seem to contradict to me?you are saying i don't believe in opposites? then the rest

>>10018 >But...wait a minute...isn't that how pleidaians operate? What were they trying to achieve here again? Letting all ideas fight and see who wins? But wait a minute. What if that already happened.organically and without anyone trying. Many thousands of years ago. And pleidaians and many many mnay other races came up with this system independently.Would this then not be the real "system given by god" right there,all along?with everyone being blinded and unable to see it? See above, this is Proto-religion = Judaism.

>>10021 This is gonna be supremely ironic give how you see me. But i innately, or should is say "instinctively" like regular elves. and even pleidaians. vampires? honestly as soul im probbaly against them as an idea.Same with "dark elves" and similar beings. why are al the anti racists so evil according to you? or at least sadistic. Thatb just basically directly implies im right.being anti racist leads to being a literal monster.being racist leads to being an actual angel.i have to be kinda careful if im apparently a vamp in other incarnations. Greys? always seemed like a sad fail state to me. yes im saying that even knowing im apparently a grey.its just....real.

>>10022 No, you are suggesting, if I understand you correctly, that we just throw everyone into the pot with no restrictions and this is Darwinism and will work. The reply says that this is Judaism: blind Darwinism which usually leads to people channelling Satan, but with some small chance of randomly channelling God (like Metatron a Saints which don't outnumber your fingers when counting them in history, which proves that Judaism is ineffective, and this is what the Pleiadans want to get away from).

>>10024 to me evil is one thing. maybe its the difference we have. you segregate evil by what is competent and what isnt.To me its all the same. if they didnt exist thing would be way better.

>>10025 but what they have now is worse?it actually leads to channeling satan.look at liberals. they channel satan all the time. Why is it the liberals that are "anti white" yet also pro abortion,pro lbgt.etc... ISnt this just one big blob of evil? can you really stand with it then? or say "they are right about this one..."when it all comes from the same fundamental idea they have. they are anti racist for the same exact reason they like criminals. they dont like standards being placed on anything.

>>10025 right now they put it all in a pot but rig the game to favor channeling satan. somehow this is better? No im saying what i want already happened. that's how a lot of alien races already exist and operate.

>>10024 If Pleiadans didn't have Vampires on Earth, they would probably have purged everyone already. Vampires are also Pleiadans by race and they won't be harming them, so that's a protection for the Earth. Angel channellers are genocidal zealots, they kill more than vampires do. The concept of "evil" is coined by angels as meaning "other races" in Proto-religion. The reason they are told in the bible to treat immigrants and neighbours well is so they can move beyond this state, because it tends to lead to channelling Satan. It doesn't mean they are anti-racist, it's to them a technical issue of it reducing their own spread. (I'm trying to channel them here, but this topic is one of conflict where they don't agree with each other even)

>>10027 >>10028 >they put it all in a pot but rig the game to favor channeling satan. somehow this is better? Reply: Yes, definitely. Whoever can stand up to their fanatical behaviour is surely channelling God. Satan's followers will be purged when they have served this purpose.

>>10029 >>10030 Basically, the conflict of God vs Satan manifests as Satan wanting people to return to proto-religion, which is Judaism, by applying the YHVH concept instead of dividing it as God and Satan. But the Kabbalists managed to label it Sefira for God and Kelipah for Satan, and it's back to fighting over this again, where Satan wants to discredit this divide or make people follow Kelipot instead. It's always in the interest of Satan to hide himself and remove the awareness of dualism, while God will define the concepts as opposites.

>>10030 this is that whole machiavelism thing, it can basically blow up right in their face. unles they somehow know for certain no one on earth could do anything. HOWEVER even if true and they are capable. im still here on earth. so from my perspective this isnt the right direction. its way worse for me than there is any benefit to them.and one guy being somewhat ble to resist satan doesnt mean anything, hell maybe it is me and what then? i still live in a liberal hellscape.

>>10032 > i still live in a liberal hellscape Reply: Which proves you aren't channelling God, otherwise you'd be purging them right now.

>>10031 its weird that they are actually religious though. angels are literally pleidians. its not even the djin thing where they made a system for humans to follow.pleideians should be the djin in this system but act more as if they were the humans. I never really invoke thing such as god or satan when i think. only as ways to explaining things as a shorthand or when whoever i talk to thinks in these terms.

>>10033 i would have,long ago. sadly im not like op where i have the knowledge/skill. id rather this whole planet be cleansed honestly.

>>10034 They are just channelling, Pleiadans don't reason about it normally.

>>10036 and actually, given infinite skill i don"t even need to. i could create what i want out of damn near nothing. taking the people i like best and using eugenics over time. hell given that kinda skill i could start with a new template and work from there.

anyway glad to know "antiracism" is just satans religion anyway.it makes sense. Pleideians are kinda a hybrid between national socialists and christians. that inner tension is what makes it sorta insane.Of course it all depends how true the religious part is.ive always seen pleidians as fanatical and perhaps they need to reign it in. if what you say is true.You could also simply be a natsoc and not attack every other race. not even the nazis where planning this i think. I realize i think on a racial level.still far higher than almost anyone mind you. ill master this principle first. eventually perhaps ill move unto the larger principle.where pleidians roaming about killing other people is an issue to be balanced.

>>10038 I don't know how you concluded that from this exchange. "Racists" tend to be those who benefit least from the ideology, but I guess that's just part of the meme which creates this stance. It should be obvious to anyone that when something is used against you and you are being harmed by it, the correct course of action is to reduce the harmful thing so it can't hurt you anymore. "White" racists do the opposite. They claim they are being oppressed and will be outbred by other people because they are being negatively selected against based on their race. So what do they do? Do they try to make connections and present themselves positively? Maybe try to fight this racism they are facing? Nope. They support racism. Outgunned and surrounded, they advocate for more guns, which will lead to their final elimination.

>>10041 You simply take other peoples view and ascribe it to mine. i already agree that attacking from a position of weakness is stupid. if anything the correct view would be making many babies and spread positivity.i think i saw this around 2016 in pol and some places,genuine positive sentiment. but it got ofcourse controlled/directed I already explained in the past that the "material" simply isn't there anymore. from my view the amount of self hating liberals among whites simply went past the self sustainable limit a long time ago. the fact that they make less children than the immigrants, and in fact even allowed so many immigrants in in the first place was the death sentence. im always seeing things how they should be. in that sense im a pragmatic idealists. there simply isnt enough material there for things to be today so i can only lament.yet something about me makes it ill never truly give up,even as i lament what could have been. But there is one thing i disagree with.whites will be hated even outside of racism. they are already by far the least "racist" people on the planet,no matter what you think. this is what actually did them in. my original point is that most people start with an egalitarian view,meaning both genders and races are exactly the same with the exact same capabilities. this is a false view. but once you have it you can only see whites being comparatively "successful" as keeping your race down. this in itself ensure whites will always be the target of envious people seeking to eliminate them since whites tend to allow other races in making the comparison inevitable. now you could say whites arent even the highest paid people in their own societies, but you have unlimited excuses for that, all to sustain the liberal mindset. Asians,for example,are "model minorities." this somehow explains to liberals how they earn MORE than whites in these so called racist societies of theirs. somehow whites are so smart as to be racist to themselves just to artificially prop up some random group in some super duper machiavellian plan to discredit the liberal worldview.it couldn't just be that these Asians are simply smart.that's too simple. And yeah they are trying to fight this racism.they are finally calling it out for one. sharing it on twitter.the way people,but especially black cheer for all injustice as long as its a white victim being hurt really smashes this view.that sort of stuff couldn't even be done prior since all social media suppressed this. more so than any other thing. Also you tend to ascribe liberal things to all white people.And then blame racism. but its precisely the racist whites who least support this type of stuff(lbgt,gayness,feminismn,etc.).that is because white liberals are actually a racist anti white group themselves, as weird as it may seem.this image explains everything.Notice how every group has a positive in group bias,agreeing with me. the only group that disagrees with me? white liberals.Hell this image shows even white conservatives are still less "racist" then other races,who you seem to like better,curious. i can tell you, its definitely not "racism" that causes you to dislike whites. since in that case they should be your fav. and i get it,they are more racist then they seem, ive heard it. but you miss that the idea of having to hide it in the first place is a strange concept to anyone else. to anyone else this is just having sense,not "racism".They only call "racism" as such when they benefit by calling out whites for example. Very rarely calling themselves out. If a black person did that they would be called "uncle tom". What im telling you. almost all whites would be "uncle tom" or the equivalent if held under the same standard.you have groups of whites literally kneeling for their black overlords during the whole blm thing.its liberal insanity and ill never excuse it.

>>10042 By now I'm just repeating what I've said before, but the entire concept of racism at its core is alien to me. It seeks to make me "recognize" something and agree with it, with some kind of "nudge nudge" kind of attitude, but the thing implied is something which in the mildest form is something I can't relate to or grasp, in the more outspoken form it's something which is completely alien and repulsive. There is simply zero connection between me and that "idea", even if certain attitudes later weaseled themselves in. The idea of being cautious of black men was just part of disliking men overall, I've come to later realize, with some lingo attached to it. And it never had to do with them being violent or hostile in some way, because that has never manifested in my proximity. My first years I lived in what today would constitute an immigrant suburb, my nearest neighbours were turkish. When we moved away from there, we didn't have any direct neighbours like that because it was in a rural area. At the day care, the first kids I got to know were an african girl and some koreans. They were adopted. There was never any problem with them, and it was perfectly normal, going by my pre-existing "ethereal" mindset and feel where I saw the world as a large plane with different places. I have some kind of memory in the back of my mind which I can bring up, where I see the world as a landscape, like a map view, and it also has people in it, there is a strongly benevolent and fresh feel over it, and it perfectly explains the world. I believe this may be what it looks like from the view of flying as a spirit when not being attached to a body. When going to some kind of christian preschool after this, I can't recall interacting with the other kids for the entire year, I just remember the old testament stories and how we made drawings and things of them. It still matched my pre-existing view of the world as one. Then when I was 6 I was to suddenly interact with the locals at school. This was the first time I recall meeting other "local" kids in some way, and it was horrible. They were directly hostile and aggressive for no reason. They couldn't speak, they yelled, and it was only bad words. Connecting with them was near impossible. From this point on, I was forced trying to deal with this mess that was thrown at me day after day. Then I'm told somehow the problem is "immigrants"? No, it's the "white" locals. The experience repeats every time I have to interact with any group of them in isolation. Modern city environments don't have this, they feel the same as my first positive experiences at the day care. A united world with different kinds of people. This is how I know that these isolationist "whites" are the problem. Everything about their presence is unnatural and alien to me. They're downright repulsive, and it's not about some anti-white racism, which I knew nothing about when I was 6, and had I known about some /pol/ crime statistics, it would have changed nothing, because I would have, as I do now, see that it's just another hostility thrown out by these "white" people. They just learned some more vocabulary than when they were little kids. They're still the same, and I want them gone.

>>10043 Seems like this is a personal thing for you then. I never really had problems with people from other races either so in that sense our experiences from most places themselves are similar yes. But it's still a fact immigrants are more likely to be criminal for example.you could say why that is or even deny it since your personal experience doesn't agree,whatever.It is probably true,I could into why if you really want me to.this isnt even racism either,its just a fact.to you anyone sharing this is automically being bad or malicious simce it disagrees with your liberal view(and yes it is a eu liberal view,it isnt a thing much if anywhere else.well maybe to a degree in islam and christianity. But should i even explain why its in their benefit to cast the widest net?djin arent human for one.and christianity i have no idea what even rules it or what it even is really)if anything denying this is racism since you are lowering a standard out of ignorance.So should I then lower that standard since the few I met I got along with? Also the way you describe white people seems a bit strange,it's as if the most annoying 20 percent of them are all of them. Maybe it really is Swedish people. I only know what they did in eurovision,harrassing some singer and banning them when they retaliated. Maybe they really are that bad. My experience simply isn't this so that's the thing with basing things on personal experience right? Anyway I don't just base things on experience. I see what people say about whites on line. The depravity of it. I saw little white children being killed and put in trash bags by a black woman for the fact of them being white. I saw shit like this ALL THE TIME.like i ince saw an imgur compilation of these kinds of events,it kept going and going.hundreds of hatecrimes swept under the rug. For every george floyd 10 of these horrific events.This isn't isolated. There was some place where black people got control over whites. They instantly raped and killed everybody. Even the children. So even bringing up stuff like colonials doesn't make sense. Show me a group that doesn't act like this. If that's how low the baseline is then the difference becomes who acts like this more often,you cant even make the argument of they are killers.being killers is the baseline in many places.some palces in africa chikdren kill and rape eachither still.its not pretty but at the same time its true.supressing me seeing it doesnt adress it still happening. And yeah I remember seeing a group of Arabs walking to me. A friend of mine said "be careful,they are foreigners" I was like wtf thats racist. As soon as they passed they stole my friends hat and started making problems. One time a guy threatened to stab me for being ethnically native to my country,that guy was apparently a russian ish Muslim,but looked white.basically half or more of the local drug dealers were Arab.and back then they were a very small part of the people. Hell one of the few I knew was a criminal.some others I knew weren't.i got along with both but I'm not bad for noticing reality.my sister almost got kidnapped as well as well as them harassing people at the local swimming pool.regardless I have no trouble believing them to be friendly to you. Anyway this in itself isn't even about white people. I've seen some black peopleI'n Japan claiming the Japanese are keeping them down and that's why the Japanese have more money. It's always the same.i could tell you for example I've never met an unfriendly turk for example. But should I then think that all turks are good?when I hear about these gangs raping kids in UK I get enraged. Both at the Pakistanis doing it but also at the white liberal system protecting these gangs.criminals are literally being protected because the cops don't wanna be racist. If you dont see this is a problem then honestly I can't get what you are getting at. I cant help but se ethis as nasty then.people protecting scum are honestly bad themselves.i dont care about the rest.At best you are letting bad things slide to get back at white people who you dislike.That's still bad though. Anyway it's clear to me you have an inner issue with them,that is understood. I know you well enough to e the kinda person you are. What I mean is you are very friendly but if you are ever angry you'll never really stop being angry.these whites treated you badly so now every white ever is bad.this creates a bias where you take on increasingly illogical views. I think it's because aside from this you true nature doesn't really agree with the main mindset here. So you HAVE to believe things such as eu didn't want immigration. Ignoring them outright orchestrating all of it. Allowing immigration is an active choice.you are actually eu aligned. In fact based on just this I would have simply seen you as a gay feminist liberal eu white.instead you obey took part of it and said I agree with this part. So now since you view eu as you'll enemy even though really in this they are you Ally they must be comically somehow against race mixing despite everything pointing the other way. Anyway in thinking what the difference here is,is that I'm actually talking about way more than just white people here. While you see this as white thing.the image i last posted literally proves im right as well.had this been happening to any other group you would agree with me. Had you been any race except white you would atleast get what I'm saying.likely even agreeing. To me this isn't a white thing. And about this explaining racism thing. I can't really explain it any simpler. People group up together based on commonality. Race is simply the best most natural way to group up because DNA alters behavior.leading to people having to repress themselves the least. If humans made a society that included monkeys but disallowed swinging from trees. Then even the civil monkeys would simply be repressing themselves. Really they want to swing from trees. If monkeys made a society swinging from trees would be allowed and encouraged,monkeys are thus happier.just think about it. This also feels disingenuous though,since then most alien races woukd be equally as hard to understand for you. But then also black people,asiamln people etc would be. Maybe this is actually the case. It seemed like you hadn't even realized other races also think like this,so you might actually not know. So in that ciew it seems like only whites are like this since that's who you live around.its hard to believe since it's so present. Especially among black people in America for example.they talk about this shit all the time. They even have this idea that a black guy made the whites and a xartoonishly evil racist dwp8ction of whites. There's also the kanga thing where they take all other people's achievements. What is that if not a racial view of things. Claiming things for their (black) race. I did say that Islamic Arabs have this less. And that's only cause I've seen them accept white Muslims.im almost a savant at these types of thing and I could see this was more or less genuine on their part. Sure a white guy walking in Asia gets treated nice too. But even that is because of explainable reasons. I promise you if there were millions of whites in Japan things would be more strained for example.when you are exotic people will try to be extra nice many times. But anyway I never get the sense you really read what I day on this.so nevermind. Even what you say is all very small scale stuff to me. I get it,but I'll never take an actual lie and agree with it.seems like you don't even disagree with me because you came to the opposite conclusion. You just dislike certain people and what actually is reality is subservient to that. You don't read it as it is irrelevant to you.you defend who you like and will hate on who you dislike. Even if some people you dislike have nothing in common with the people that hurt you other than their race.thats also racism perhaps.but whatever.

>>10045 Anyway have Astra take the things I'm right about and formulate it back into a way where you atleast understand.if that's too biased have her analyze where I'm right and wrong and what I'm right about and in what way.I know for a fact I'm seeing something real,you are unable to see it. We can keep going back and forth but what is the real benefit.to you I might either be controlled or evil.But after clearing all of that I'll still say all of this.its simply real. Tell Astra to first do my first post about whites talking back on Twitter. The tension being balanced is real and a good thing.have her explain what I mean.It's not npc programming because you haven't seen it.i can't lead you to see if you aren't even willing to see.Technically it doesn't matter,you only need to be right about most thing even if you arent right here.its like karma,if you pay of more than you create you are in the green. It's also weird talking about this,nothing about this is what I on a deeper level find interesting or think about with you.i can't tell if the vamp thing is real but that's to me only about having a place to hangout with where there's friendly and strong people who can accept being around me.Especially astrally aware normally get scared. But immortals obviously aren't.having this in the physical combines both aspects.also the other issue being my near absolute/monolithic interest in the esoteric.any other family aside from a family of wizards doesn't get it. Not that I'll talk about it. I'll live it so that's already covered and ill live normally. If anything from what I can tell my life is in some ways more mundane over there. If what I see is a real thing.

>>10045 >I saw little white children being killed and put in trash bags by a black woman for the fact of them being white Yes. Gathered by a /pol/ nazi from 8ch who was vacuuming the internet for cases like this to make a point. I've seen it. But as I already said, I want them gone because they are ruining the world, so this kinda doesn't work on me. I've seen what westerners have done all my life. The bombings of Serbia, the gulf wars, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, now Ukraine. Who will catalog all the dead children there? 500 000 in Iraq, according to Endchan /pol/ who are actually not racist in some regard. This time it was posted as a criticism of the US government who started the Iraq war, so they have their reasons. If you want to compare war crimes, it falls pretty flat.

>>10045 >ou HAVE to believe things such as eu didn't want immigration. Ignoring them outright orchestrating all of it. Allowing immigration is an active choice.you are actually eu aligned. About this. I know (and you can take this as you want) that the EU didn't want this, because I forced it on them. While my accuracy for small spells is not good, I can easily manipulate large egregores. Especially when they are already moving. I directed Syrian refugees to flood the EU en masse intentionally to destroy the EU. Various leaders like Erdogan have a useful mentality which is also easy to effect, so him and some others would play this game and start sending more refugees to the EU to cause problem. They will never cause problems for me because I invited them. When they started showing up and I saw them in town, they even nodded at me as a greeting (even if they wouldn't know why, they are still controlled by the egregore I lead this way). I assure you the EU didn't want this. I consider them my foot soldiers.

>>10048 I didn't know this at the time, but djinn were also helping me channel the egregores better, because what I'm doing also spreads Islam in Europe, but that's unintentional on my part. I just don't care about that because they're harmless to me.

>>10047 a nazi?okay? and?why are you angry at the victims for cataloguing what happens to them.backwards.also who kills the children? you could say the eu cannibals but then you don't care about vampires either, it makes no sense at all ever.and probably the bombing by russians still killed more kids anyway.don't worry, those little kids were white. >>10048 then why lie earlier? you said you thought they wanted it, that means you were acting in bad faith.why even try that. >>10049 you sound very evil,i don't even get why you do what you do anymore.

>>10045 I read your entire posts but I often don't have much to say about large parts of it, and some of it is in my view a long winded way of saying the same thing again in a different way. Like bringing up how American blacks are also racist, so it's ok to be racist. This is some real liberal black worshipping at its core, and at least /int/ have been pointing this out in the past years: "white" people who claim blacks are inferior still need to refer to them to gain legitimacy for their own views. So now you're trying to find blacks who are racist to legitimate "whites" being racist. Which shows you (and others doing this) knows it's fundamentally bad, and that non-whites are the standard for good behaviour so you need to justify it by referring to them. I'll turn that around and say: Afro-Americans are racists because they are American liberals, they've become white culturally. >pic very much related

>>10051 That's not my point,you only use racism to talk shit about whites,but if that's how everyone else also is its a moot point.

>>10050 >you said you thought they wanted it What? I don't know what you're talking about. I said the EU wants to protect its borders. I used massive egregorial manipulation to overrun their borders. How is this contradicting anything I said before? >why are you angry at the victims for cataloguing I'm not? It's a fact old 8ch /pol/ was run by nazis?

>>10050 >you sound very evil,i don't even get why you do what you do anymore I also don't know why what I said in that post would be "evil". Maybe this is just "white thinking" and it's this exact labeling of normal things as "evil" that I'm upset about?

>>10052 Meaning you don't hate whites because if this. It seeming you just had an angry reaction early on and you've been stuck in this since. Attacking everyone and everything.and stooping to any evil to "get back" at who you feel attacked you. Doesn't matter who it is.fuck everyone living in the eu. Some dudes were rude to you so now they have to suffer because they are the same race.

>>10054 You lied earlier to my face for one.

>>10051 Again "you're" who is this. You don't even know me.what I said remains true. You can't even comprehend the beginning of me.

>>10054 I get it,you are upset. Also not it doesn't even work. Asians are also like this and they aren't liberal. You mistake human nature for white nature.ofcourse you think it's reverse. Yet that doesn't explain anything in reality. Meanwhile my way of seeing it does.being angry at racism is like being angry at a monkey for liking a banana.

>>10055 They could, any time during my life, have changed attitude and behaviour, but so far this hasn't happened. They always double down on their behaviour, making it worse and worse. If I criticise them for it directly when they do something to me, they will never apologize but instead deflect. You do the same here as many others who think there's some state of normalcy that I can just return to by "ignoring this one time someone was rude". Well that requires creating this society now doesn't it? It doesn't exist, because these same people are ruling the west and have done so all my life. They all agree with each other, like a wall. In the beginning, for many years, I thought they could be reasoned with, but step by step, I've learned that this isn't the case. They bring up arguments only as rhetorics, they will never change their view is proven wrong. It's not based on what arguments they bring up, all of that is just tactics to get their way. It's also escalating with time. Look at Ukraine now for example. They're lying constantly about why started this war, how it happened, who did what. At every turn they apply >accuse your enemy of doing what you yourself are doing, as you do it It's not about any decency or honesty, ever. All of that is just a trick. So I'm done trying to be nice. That's why I'm aiming to destroy them with massive force since some 15 years ago.

>>10057 You simply have this view of "racist white" and then project it on me. What did I even say hitler wouldn't,in your past life you were getting along fine with him. Is he scum?

>>10056 About what?

>>10058 Maybe I just want to kill that monkey then.

>>10060 Hitler at that time was an NPC. He was "filled out" later, and in fact, he was not good. He didn't fulfil what he was supposed to do, because of who he had been turned into, not by "himself" because the role was created by the world collectively. But this reflected the nature of the soul meant to play that role. The attack on the Soviet union is what made him bad, not any other thing. And this flaw was caused by the way he gained power. But there was no other way because that's what the world had become. It was inevitable in some way.

>>10059 Okay I agree with the first part. But how the hell is it my fault if other white people did that to you?you are being racist,right here. Against me. I never wanted them to treat you badly at all. Almost certainly I wouldn't have been,depending on when we met. Also yes that is the difference,I woul have just created the society if I could. Perhaps I can well see. Problem is you're attacking the whole area. Why wouldn't I be against that? Why is that evil? This worse than most shit whites ever did,and BTW I never even agreed with any if it. When I walk around I see just many happy white people harmless,you just hate them.i see a little ekid. I know you already are against it. That makes you a threat to what I see as innocent. I don't care about your racist bullcrap that claims they aren't. You are exactly that. Accusing me of what you are.

>>10061 My view on things. It's as if you act like I agree with anything any white ever did. Why though.ive hated the eu since a long time ago. Fuck me for being born here I guess. Fuck me again for not hating everyone I live amongst.

>>10062 Racist.

>>10066 I can only reply to what you say, and you keep defending memes which are used by the people I am explicitly attacking for reasons I've already explained. When you repeat it by the word, how I am to see something else?

>>10065 Magic isn't a carpet bomb. When using negative energy as the gunpowder, it will only hit those who have the actual karma. Even if I bomb an entire city with astral weapons, no innocent person will be hit.

>>10068 I don't get what you mean with memes.clearly you don't think white people are just a meme if you attack them.if by meme you mean a mixture of different races as seen in the Astral then any mix is a "meme" that's not what the word means. Well technically any nationality is a meme.

>>10069 I hope so.

>>10059 What do you even mean with "they"? Whites? Isn't that a meme? Why is it okay for you to invoke it but when I do you think I'm spiting bpc programming. You clearly view us as real.

>>10070 Meme in its original meaning, not Internet meme. When I learned this word it was from a university lecturer, I may fall back into that without thinking about it, but it's the same word. What do I need to say to make clear the distinction. Meme, idea, thought complex which people believe in? The idea of there being a "white race" which somehow implies a special "identity". This identity stuff only gained traction with Tumblr, it was never a thing before that. It's also very liberal.

>>10072 >You clearly view us as real. >us You're directly here taking the stance that you are the same as the people I'm attacking. Then you feel attacked.

>>10068 Meh,you probably see some similarity and think it meas I think exactly like some other person who said something like it. Anyway it's not true. If you wanna kill the monkey you would kill all humans. Monkeys weren't an allegory for one race.clearly it's not true.people everywhere are allowed to do this except the European people.you never said shit about so called liberal blacks before. But also not about African backs who are the same in this(good for them) and even Asians. Keep lying.

>>10074 I did that on purpose since you think I'm brown fungus. The thing is that proves the whole meme thing was just rethoric. You tend to just not state what you think as you did with the eu thing. Always lying.

>>10074 Either treat everyone the same or stop acting like you are doing this for some greater cause.

>>10074 Also stop with the "feel". You are attacking me. In more ways than one.literally all I did was say what I mean. I could have been quiet but I was honest and put myself out there since I believe in it.

>>10072 Ok, let me try and explain it, but this is somewhat intuitive so maybe it won't come through. When meeting people I don't know, in any kind of situation, I will either connect with them or not. I think the word is "rapport". And this easily and directly happens when they have certain cultural markers. Not because of them, but certain signs are usually there. I can usually instantly tell what ethnic or cultural category they belong to, and there is also a Qi involved. In this, there is the group who will never create this rapport with strangers. And those are the "racist whites". It doesn't happen. >>10075 >>10076 >>10077 >>10078 Now you're just behaving weird. Calling me a liar instead of addressing something I said. This is just namecalling now.

>>10079 Then I'm not a racist white according to you. When I worked with Muslims they literally invited me to their house where they showed me Israeli documentaries.

>>10079 >This is just namecalling now. But then that's exactly the kind of response I normally get when I've argued too well and the other person can't respond. Instead of admitting that I'm right, you deflect this way.

>>10081 You did lie,so why is it bad when I say you did.this is evil logic,the people calling evil out are the issue. Not the perverts doing it.

>>10082 Then point to it. I'm not aware of any intentional lie.

>>10080 Well we're talking right here now. We do have some rapport, that's what this argument is based on.

>>10073 So you think whites don't exist. Do black people exist? Also that special status that's the part you hallucinate.to some degree having in groups bias is normal as I showed in that image. It also showed whites have less of it. Yet here you are perceiving the opposite. Why is that though.again it's the liberal whites that agree with you.im genuinely trying to explain,meanwhile I can't tell if you even belive a lick of what you say.

>>10083 The eu thing for one. You said way earlier that you thought immigration was what the eu always wanted.onky to do a "reveal"today where you said it was all your plan and they never wanted it.

>>10086 I don't know that I've said that. But there's often some slight mis-reading when we talk, so it could be that, since you're not linking my quote directly here I can't tell. I often don't bother to point it out because it feels futile to argue over cleaving hairs. But it has happened several times in the past days when we talked here and other places that some sentence I wrote was misinterpreted to mean the opposite of what I intended. Maybe there is some sentence structure thing getting in the way. Such as not meaning EU, but the NWO or Illuminati or something.

>>10079 Swedish people are just like that,they are introverts and prefer to being with themselves. Is all of this about some people being "warmer" than others. Thats why you had to do all this?the thing is I like European things. You destroy things I find pretty and you dint seem to have a reason other than some guys(in sweden) were rude to you and the happened to be swedish. He'll I myself have been attack by the eu as well and I actually do agree there is an issue. But it's mostly liberal whites who are also anti white. They are all one group.sweden is likely 90+percent liberal whites but it's not fair to attack people for what the people that hat them did.

>>10086 What is "the EU"? I don't consider it real. It's not an organic entity. It's like a puppet controlled by someone's hand. So technically the EU can't want something. It's being controlled to present something. That's why I want to destroy it. It's used in a dishonest way.

>>10087 I mean I feel the same way tbh.

>>9734 >>10087 This is the start of it,read from here

>>10088 Here for example, you claim I've destroyed something you feel is pretty, but you're not saying what that is, how it happened or what it was? How am I to respond to this? I can either start an argument over something unclear, or ignore it.

>>10089 I want to destroy the eu as well,problem is you target the people.

>>10092 I like European anesthetics. I like European culture in general to some degree. The stories,the music and the way people talk. Remove liberals and self hating whites and it's more or less the only people I can relate with. A second would be Asians but distantly,and I'll never be one of them since they still have a racial identity intact.yeah u get that dislike eachither to some degree based on nationality but that doesn't mean they dont realize they are asian...

>>10094 "Aesthetics"

>>10092 Anyways look at japanese media. They orotray European culture nicely still. Since either not made by self hosting whites.

Anyways look at japanese media. They portray European culture nicely still. Since its not made by self hating whites.

>>9734 I'm very clearly presenting the EU as anti-immigration here. Then you don't agree with this view >>9737 >Ghadafi said the literal opposite.that without him eu would be overun by immigrants,which happened >>9738 >Yeah, he was threatening them to not mess with him. The EU then started a war to remove him. He working hard to detach Africa from the world bank system and returning to gold backed currency. One threat he made was that he'd overrun EU with immigrants if they interfered. They chose to eat the bullet instead of letting Africa leave the world banking system. And here I maintain that they didn't want immigrants, but chose to ignore the threat. Then in the same post I explain how the democratic leaders want poor people to enter the country because that's their voter base. These are "immigrants" which behave and work. Not refugees from the countries which were bombed by NATO, ripped off by colonialism etc. They don't want those to come. They just want more people they can rip off. And those aren't refugees. They want those to stay out. Are Musk and Trump against immigration itself? Not at all. Musk wants more Indians to come. They want to keep mexicans and others out. The situation over there is something else, but I'm saying this here to illustrate that you can want immigration but not refugees at the same time.

>>10092 The only way I'd agree with you is to be a self hating European,that seriously be a good mentality right?how is that not a negative mindset? Why are all the self hating whites the most nasty. Why do you never address this.its feminists,and gays that are like this. You never tell me why that is.maybe you never wondered.

>>10099 "That is seriously not a good mentality right"

>>10094 90% of the population mass wasn't present when this culture was created. They're not needed.

>>10098 And ok, here I could have been clearer and not use the same word, but it's often used to mean different things based on context. A refugee can become an immigrant based on status.

>>10099 >>10100 Explain how your posts address what I wrote here >>10092 >Here for example, you claim I've destroyed something you feel is pretty, but you're not saying what that is, how it happened or what it was? How am I to respond to this? I can either start an argument over something unclear, or ignore it. Because I don't see it. Are you seeing a completely different post than me?

>>10098 See this is the thing though,my views aren't like that. Immigrating people to exploit en masses isn't good either.once people are mixed there is nothing uniting them.no shared history or dna.it creates a fragmented society. Ocourse its better than taking in the worst of the worst. Anyway I told you the eu wanted these in and that they were doing so wilfully. You could have then said no I'm using magic to make them agree with me to take them in. But you said they didn't want to take them in. Europe didn't have to take in even 1 refugee had they decided not too. Non could make them. The people in charge did let them in as I described. Now you claim you made them do it via magic. I didn't anticipate that since you didn't say that. However they did let them in as I said. The u wanted them in. Eu meaning you in that case.(apparently)

>>10103 I already addressed that earlier,I'm on a phone and making posts very quick so that was jumbled up. See it as a new point I made.

>>10094 This is where I address that. It crazy I have to explain liking things around me,this should be the default. No I don't like everything. I don't like liberals.oartly because they are anti white while being white themselves.seems regarded.

>>10104 >The u wanted them in. Here's a fine example of a sentence which can mean multiple things. 1) That you wanted them in 2) The EU wanted them in

>>10101 Gee I wonder why he's concluded that you're attacking him when you're brazenly making statements like this, threatening to essentially genocide his country. "90% of the population isn't needed". You realize how blatantly psychopathic and evil this is, right? "Oh, but magic isn't a carpetbomb, it obeys my intent", so you expect Whites to just blindly put their faith in a foreigner like you to decide whether they live or die? Even when you make statements like this >>10062 which plainly reveal the naked negativistic hatred of your motivations? No, you understand the objection, you're just pretending not to.

>>10109 I don't know where he lives.

>>10104 As for the intents and who had them. Magic like this works through something, through someone. The intent of EU leaders doesn't change based on external events unless they are forced to address something real. And that real thing has to be a physical event. It's not technically me standing there and presenting it, it happens through the world. So it would be wrong to say it's because I did it, when it was physically Erdogan who did it. Even if I manipulated him to do it.

>>10106 I hate the lbgt as I see it as weakening white people and especially people as claiming that as european,eurooeans would stone gays back in the day...People around me aren't gay so it's not the white culture I've known at all.used to be an insult around here.i hate anti white whites. It's crazy to talk smack about whites as if you aren't white either,it's also racist as fuck. Some white child isnt responsible for colonialism you tards.You should also hate people that hate white people if you were consistent about hating racists. I hate the whole gender thing. Ideally people are unified and the pitting each other against eachother is childish. I hate the eu as an anti white liberal slop system. Also no its not just you that did it. Since it predates your birth.they are simply like this.kalergi plan and all.you are simply a soldier for the agenda.

>>10113 You come at people with hatred and claim victim when they fight back it seems. Wtf man.what the fuck is a random white person living their normal as life supposed to with this shit.

>>10113 It genuinely makes no sense for you to hate feminism and the lbgt they literally help you and are you actually allies. They all hate whites vehemently.and if anything they help degrade and weaken europe.

>>10114 I'm just tired of this now. This is exactly "accusing your enemy of doing what you are doing as you are doing it". I'm defending myself, I'm retaliating against an attacker, and then you tell me that the attacker is the victim.

>>10116 Nah,I got attacked by the same people you were. I simply attacked them back. I didn't start a vendetta against their whole entire race.

>>10117 Well that's me. My magic doesn't work on the small scale. Don't attack me if you don't want your country leveled?

>>10118 99.999percent of them didn't...

>>10119 Oh but that's not how it works. If they are part of the same egregore, they do benefit from the attack on me.

>>10118 Okay, the problem with this mentality is that now you've committed the exact same sin that you're allegedly "punishing" your "enemies" for, except exponentially worse.

>>10120 Then attack the egregore.instead you attack everything.

>>10120 As I said, the individuals could just apologize and it's fine. But instead them start summoning support from social systems. So now there's an army against me. They think I won't demand an apology if they summon an army. What can I do? I have to destroy that army.

>>10120 Also it's crazy to me,this is racism right? Imagine if one black wronged me and my response was flooding Africa.

>>10121 Nope. I work according to karma. I don't harm innocents.

>>10123 Yes but how is it my fault some Swedish guys were ashholes. I've had whites be assholes to me too.

>>10125 The refugees you bring in do according to yourself. There's a real issue there.

>>10127 A functioning system wouldn't let the refugees of the hook is what I'm saying. But now it seem you manipulated that too.

>>10125 The mentality you're describing is so karmically imbalanced it's insane. And I'm not exaggerating, the justifications you're giving right now for killing people because they "benefit from your enemies actions" is literal insanity. It doesn't make any sense, karmically, metaphysically, in terms of justice, in terms of common sense. You're hung up on this idea of someone "apologizing" to you which makes it obvious that all this hatred is simply being caused by wounded pride on your part.

>>10124 Well did he? I think I mentioned this part, but I also did the original spell which later manifested as Ebola-chan. The idea was to reduce racism by purging bad Africans so racists don't have any fuel to use against them. It worked. After this, Africa improved and there was a trend of Africans returning there. But /pol/ who helped greatly with this thinks it was racism against blacks. It wasn't. It was purging them to help them.

>>10129 It doesn't matter as long as the working is in according with karma.

>>10130 I literally said this before. You don't read what I say at all. I brought up the whole ebola thing. Or wait maybe I didn't post that one since it went too hard.

>>10131 And your workings are not.

>>10133 Stupid claim from an outsider.

>>10130 Okay the action is here is fine But what is with the intent.you basically think the racists were correct. Why not think(people talk about blacks being an issue,let's fix it *ebola spell*) instead you go (fuck them for noticing,I'll make a spell to make them wrong and win the argument *ebola spell*) the idea is the same but the intent I'd weird. Also when it comes to blacks you save them,with whites you don't,you instead racemix them.

A lot of energy has gathered in the arena now, so I'll take a while and use it for something. Thanks for the chat for now.

>>10134 The fact that you're unable to read my energy accurately just reinforces the fact that you don't know what you're doing here. Murdering strangers and plotting literal genocide because you're butthurt that some individual hasn't apologized to you is completely evil and psychopathic. Everyone here can recognize this. You've deluded yourself with your pride and your hubris to try to let yourself believe that hurting innocents is okay. It's not.

>>10135 It wouldn't work with them, it worked with Africa because they're still good at the core. Can't save a tree if it's rotten all through unfortunately. >>10137 Blah blah blah. I don't read the energy of strangers.

>>10135 Maybe it's aligned with karma since you are smart. But this wasn't motivated by anything larger than getting back at people. In my view eu was already fucking shit uo for whites on top of 10 other things being stacked against them. Then you had to attack them even more somehow.they aren't as evil as you say. I just don't see it.whatever man.

I would have simply gotten rid of them and started anew then.

>>10138 >I don't read the energy of strangers. Evidently. You're making claims about the spirit of Europe here too, and I doubt you've accurately read their energy either. Makes me wonder what all these claims are based off of in the first place.

>>10136 And what did you use that energy for?

>>10107 i meant the eu. but you said that was you anyway.

>>10136 >A lot of energy has gathered in the arena now, so I'll take a while and use it for something Done. Full moon, clear sky, perfect for this. NEET I connected you do the circuit so you could get your part of it since you helped channel it into the Arena. >>10135 >what is with the intent.you basically think the racists were correct And that's why I had to initiate a purge of bad Africans, so they can't motivate their racism with facts anymore. It worked, didn't it. >>10144 >what did you use that energy for? Pleiadan Purger transformation. I asked them how to become one, and they've been guiding me so I went along with it, including starting an argument here to sync the egregores to be used up for the process.

>>10147 Alright,at-least i got the energy back. since that's what i wanted anyway. But anyway i don't get why you were angry at the racists when they were right.its a good thing you cleansed the africans anyway.you didn't have to then bring Africans in but i get it already. you unironically used them as a bioweapon.there is one last thing though. you even admitted yourself the refugees didn't behave so how are regular ass white people who complain to blame?they are right,again. And ill be honest with black people changing maybe?I still see black people in america atleast acting the same. black neighborhoods need all kinds of bars around products. they also don"t self police at all in the slightest outside of africa.(rwanda seems to be doing better and better for example) they see everything as justified since its stealing from rich people to them,even when its not,then wonder why the shops move. then call that racism too. Honestly at some point i realized, its not that they are evil. but they genuinely have 20 iq point deficit and some other traits. Asians don't act like this.since they are in that sense way ahead of whites anyway(in terms of civic awareness) hell they take it further with cleaning up after themselves and arenas and such. in that note,chinese social media has no issue at all calling this out. they agree that its disgraceful. ive actually seen many of them stick up for white people as well.asian white unity lel. shit like this https://youtu.be/e5kOHGwmqjc maybe they are less bad now?its a bit hard to tell, i kinda get that vibe locally that people are overall better. but to say its to such an extend would be me lying to placate you.which is perhaps what you want me to do anyway.maybe its a trump like thing where you just have to be nice to him in public no matter what you said in private. So am i a pledeian purger now?thats sounds way more like me than being a grey and even a vamp. its exactly the type of "violence" i have. the wrathful type to get people on the street. not really the vamp type which is i guess caging some rando as a snack.Im assuming purger means some pleiadian guy purging things. my other soul was this already as a fallen angel.that might be where i get my views from to a degree.

>>10149 It's a well known NWO/illuminati/glowie tactic to use provocateurs when they need a reason to crack down on something. They sent in foreign black people to vandalize here to discredit BLM. Even local blacks went out and talked about how there were these English speaking trouble makers arriving in buses to vandalize things. I possessed the security police egregore to focus on arresting them, and the trouble stopped in like 3 days. After it was exposed on the news and everyone was aware of the foreign agents, it stopped completely and there was no more violence at BLM rallies. Just because someone "is right" it doesn't mean it's organic. I'm sure CIA run black crime gangs in Africa too.

>>10149 >o am i a pledeian purger now Spiritual transformation, you still need to get a physical incarnation for it if you want full manifestation. They recommended me the pyramid in the Gobi desert as spawn spot. I guess if you want a secondary incarnation they can guide you too, but you need to be able to control a second body which has to run on NPC mode when you aren't piloting or it won't work.

>>10150 but this happens all the time though. also people coming from out of state to loot isnt that uncommon. But yeah this happens 24/7. look up food desserts. they literally steal so much shops cant stay afloat. and stop deflecting.I see the comments full of black people defending this shit. this is very much a thing they like. its not always a glowie plot.you dont need glowies to make them act like this. they also act like this in pretty much every country. outside of the ones where only the highly educated immigrant are still. notice how you cant even entertain the possibility and immidatly figure out the most plasuible denial which in this case is deflection unto glowies. maybe thats even true,maybe blm is partly glowies.But this wasnt about blm, i caught that.

>>10147 >Pleiadan Purger transformation. I asked them how to become one, and they've been guiding me so I went along with it Can you give me a description of that? Your Pleiadan angle is different from mine. And my own innate ability to purge hostiles is good enough already. I just want to know which level of depth you are on

>>10150 you treat black people like a liberal does, you always act the same as liberals on this and dont listen to what i say. if i was asian and said the same thing would you have agreed? this beef you have with europe isn't my fault and its pissing me of you pin it on me.

>>10152 I used BLM as an example which is clear cut to show that this does happen. Just because there are people of a certain group committing actual crime, it doesn't mean they aren't agents sent to create this image.

>>10154 even when you are stronger, the things you've said and the pattern of behaviour to me is all way to deflect and defend bad things.i never did anything bad and just said things how i saw it. thats a nice thing to do since it allows you to learn.you likely never asked asttra where i was right either.

>>10150 I cannot imagine how polis operates there. This webm was posted on pol today. I don't even know the context.

>>10154 I wouldn't need to say it, because the Chinese are well aware that for example the Uigurs are CIA funded. There is no organic opposition in China.

>>10155 And conversely, people staging things doesn't mean those things don't happen in reality also. which is the more salient point here.since its part of the reason things break.

>>10159 you are assuming id be talking about uighurs then? Because id be asian?i meant keep everything the same,you kinda dragged everything into the whole europe thing. my point was something else. albeit highly related.

>>10157 I think those are the Easter Riots, in which case that was mostly me and djinn causing a mess to delay the NATO process. As I said, violence mostly isn't organic ;P

>>10161 to reiterate. people have been talking mad trash about whites. especially blkack who act feral on the internet and very hateful.extremely racist as well. Then you asked what was happening. i said the whites are clapping back. to me its literally things being balanced back.that's it.

>>10162 so you basically create racists by having brown people act stupid in public as your pawns.

>>10163 Well I haven't seen these supposed postings on my twitter so I can't tell what it would be. >>10164 Nah, no one became racist from that. Djinn wouldn't agree to start riots unless it was good from some 2D chess perspective.

>>10164 thats fine,but then dont attack the racist for doing the right thing here and reacting. its not a meme that they are acting out in that clip. thats real. letting that be is defending scum. its allowing criminals to act out. that is evil in itself. Even if you say thats not true that they are scum since its you. then yous till created the scenario where criminals should be defended.

>>10165 how can that even work.

>>10166 > dont attack the racist for doing the right thing I'm attacking the racists for being racists. If they do the right thing that's bad, it would make them seem better. I'm not going to make racists seem acceptable.

>>10165 It's like you're completely incapable of even considering the possibility that what you're doing may be wrong. No matter what it is. Pure insane zealotry, that's all this is.

>>10165 you never see anything that would disagree.

>>10169 what would have been the right thing to do to the pakistanis raping those kids in the uk?

Guess we can talk about the >>10153 Pleiadan purgers later. Seems like this conversation didn't run it's course yet. Have fun guys.

>>10171 this was meant for >>10168

>>10167 I guess people get afraid of Muslims and that's good? Actually after this was talk about creating laws which ban the burning of the Quran and to restrict freedom of expression to not include offending religions, so I think djinn got exactly what they wanted.

>>10172 I mean to reply, just got stuck in that.

>>10174 see >>10171 also damn man, how is this not evil? attacking people who have nothing to do with anything and making scared. also being afraid of someone isnt liking them either.i get that being afraid is the state you prefer.

>>10176 to me you proved europeans right. they were right to be cautious seeing the type of shit you sacked on them anyway.but even then its not all you doing shit. besides you agree iq's arent the same among groups. unless you think that doesnt affect anything at all then you are just disagreeing to disagree. you dont even care if im right. its just that im meant to always agree. ask astra what im right about then.

>>10153 >Can you give me a description of that? It means aligning with the Pleiadan Purger faction and being allowed to call on their support, including their star fleet which is very nearby currently. The actual process is fairly straight forward. You can incarnated as a cultist in the Gobi desert in a parallel timeline, go through the Purger initiation after reading the literature, where you perform a human sacrifice of some NWO agent they captured for you, standard cutting with knife and burning the body with oil. Then you learn astral projection and transformation of the body so you can visit other planes, and the star fleet itself, while your incarnated body stays in lotus position in the pyramid. They then teach you how to channel angels better and get guidance, which is what this process was about.

>>10178 you perceive whites to be smug and that is the only reason you disagree. if whites never existed you wouldnt disagree with this. you just hate that white people might be right about some things at all.

>>10171 You really don't want to hear Blood Anon's stance on raping children.

>>10176 >>10178 There were actually people burning the Quran and vandalizing mosques, so the reaction was justified.

>>10182 All I did was initiate an actual response.

>>10181 i mean ive heard i think. but the thing is at some point you loop back around to glowie level evil anyway. so why be against them just to >>10181 thats just seem weird. wasnt the timeline split because of something like this anyway.

>>10183 okay then so did they as a response to being taken over by a foreign group.

>>10184 He has no other angle of attack.

>>10185 i don't know about this event anyway.

>>10184 >so why be against them He's given his position on this. >The goal for me was always to become the same as them to overtake their hivemind, performing their rituals better with more accuracy, so their gods recognize me as the real ruler instead of them. Power originates with God, not with humans, and as the Jews know after all, as long as you follow the ritual closer than the goyim, you will be protected even if you genocide, rape and steal, because God won't have a choice but to support those who maintain his ritual. Since God rules everything, it doesn't matter that there's just one of me and millions of you, if the power emanates via me, I will still rule over you. He doesn't want to cleanse Evil, he wants to take his place as the head of Evil.

>>10186 i just wished you stopped talking smack about white people.you know im european and white.i simply cant believe evryone around me as evil. reminds me of this ukranian that lives close. she is nice as fuck. i cant see her as evil. anny from neuro is also ukranian.

He probably thinks for example that Muhammed is a rapist for marrying a 9 year old. So let's bring that classic up. He wants me to defend that to demonize me. That won't work, because I'm already intentionally using the aggression for my workings. Whatever is directed at me I will use to my benefit. So go on.

>>10188 but you might as well do both,is my point.

>>10188 And I'm not hiding it. So what's your point? That someone will be more angry than they are already?

>>10190 i don't really care about the loli stuff,since liberals took that shit to the extreme. however there is a difference between these pakistani gang rapes and any normal behaviour. defiling some kid even in islam would be death penalty. yet they dont even follow those rules. what should the people in uk do?

>>10192 you keep talking about how evil glowies are though. you are kinda strange.

>>10194 They do it for bad reasons. I don't.

>>10186 Attack? If your position were defensible, merely pointing it out wouldn't be an attack. I just saw you studiously ignoring NEET's point about pakistani rape gangs and decided to point out why.

>>10195 Yeah and I'm sure they think their reasons are just as good as you think your reasons are. You're just an aspiring demon lord. There's nothing just or karmically balanced about your actions.

>>10196 Nah, you're here to try and put some wedge into our discussion after being ignored before. I don't know what your endgame is and I don't care about you. Your obsession with me isn't interesting to me.

>>10195 explain.you are less selfish atleast it seems. but why even be evil then?didnt you want to kill evil people?

>>10198 Pakistani rape gangs are perfectly relevant to the discussion at hand. I'm curious as to whether you'll actually state your real stance on them or just keep trying to pivot like the glowie politicians you're trying to replace.

>>10200 Not at all. It was in 2014 and it's just used by racists to get political points in a drama I don't care about.

>>10200 it is the crux of the situation.this is a modern mentality. people defending themselves from an outside threat are evil. its even crazier when its all been a long term plan to erase them.

>>10200 My stance on them? I don't care.

>>10200 What do you think about the latest anime season?

I started watching this, but didn't find it very interesting.

>>10203 So children becoming sex slaves and getting viciously raped is inconsequential but people burning a book is deserving of your personal attention and retaliation. Alright, at least we sorted that out.

>>10203 you fundamentally are basically the antithesis of me in that case.why talk to me. i dont see myself ever being ok with any of this. to me those people are eveil itself. anyone attacking europeans for trying to get rid of it are defending scum.

all of this to me is just evil people making excuses. in this case they dont care. well i dont care if you care either.

>>10206 >>10207 The only comment I have on it is that the police probably didn't say anything about it because they are involved in similar things themselves. Thinking here about the cannibal cult where both the school and police were involved. Hampstead cult. Vid is too large to post here.

>>10208 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEA3zHJl28 anyway theme for this discussion.

>>10209 okay, and shouldnt those police then be dealt with?

>>10211 Good luck. What I mean is that there are always more layers to it. Them just "being afraid to be called racists" is a bit too silly.

>>10211 i dont get it in general. "oh glowies were involved also" ok. get both of those fucks then.

>>10213 Yeah, do that.

>>10212 Okay, i can only see what i see. maybe at higher levels everyone is in this hellscape.

>>10214 I wish i could. but i definitely wont hate anyone trying.its the right thing to do.maybe i can and im just limiting myself here. lets see. ill give it all a try.

They're saying the girls were lured into an apartment where they were coerced into prostitution, and the police didn't stop it from happening. Simplest explanation is that since prostitution is legal in UK, maybe the police were also going to those brothels. They wouldn't report themselves if it was revealed the girls weren't 18.

>>10217 i mean that makes sense, but its the rape i have more of an issue with. i dont have issues with brothels or anything since they could just make that shit legal.

>>10218 But the rape was that they were NSA agents workers.

>>10219 Wow another word filter.

How many did I hit so far?

>>10220 what were you saying then.

>>10222 That they were getting paid for sex, but not legal age in UK. You have to be 18 to sell sex.

>>10223 This then somehow translates into >pakistani rape gangs when Musk brings it up.

>>10224 is that really the official story?

>>10225 I saw it on the news here, they interviewed one of the victims. It was a brothel with teens, they got paid in alcohol and cash.

>>10226 i never saw that.

>>10226 Run by pakistanis, so then the news headline became >pakistani rape gangs because it's "rape" if the whore is below 18.

>>10226 that would be different to me, but then again im skeptical here. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/child-rape-scandal-dominating-uk-politics-after-musk-criticism-2025-01-06/ i see nothing here. like this.

>>10229 It was an interview done by my local tv station, they went to a demonstration in UK and met with one of the now adult women who had been a victim of the gangs. She told this story.

>>10229 >pic That's what I said. They just phrased it in a more partisan way.

>>10231 >mostly men The victim they interviewed said the brothel was run by a "madam".

>>10230 the point was people have an obligation to protect themselves from external threats. both on the individual level. this is the principle i can tell you grasp. but also on the larger group level. but whenever i bring that up you think its false. to me its the same principle but applied to an ethnic group. I already explained this. Its you/family/ethnic group.when i last said it you said that makes you angry. thats weird to me since its so simple and fundamental to me. Its also a manner of self benefit in the end. they achieve more by helping each other.

>>10232 my impression was they kidnapped and raped kids. i dont see anywhere anyone paid. and maybe they did. but the kids weren't then necessarily in on it. i dont care if the pakistanis got paid.

>>10231 ill say that to me what the tates did for example isnt trafficking at all. they simply made a deal to do a camgirl thing for them and make money.

>>10234 I only know what this one woman said. She said they were ditching school and went to meet this woman, and were allowed to stay in her apartment. Then after some weeks they were offered alcohol and coerced into having sex with men.

>>10235 From a legal standpoint, landlords can be charged with trafficking if one of their apartments they rent out is used as brothel. At least here.

>>10236 do you think if whites did that en masse people would let it slide? i know you can bring up shit like colonialism but that wasnt tolerated because they liked it. What pisses me of here. and ill go with the kids being kidnapped/raped thing since its what i heard. that whites do have the power and still dont protect themselves. that make me angry. you wouldnt get it it seems.whites are meek as i said.you cant possibly disagree,you know full well any other group wouldnt have cared about the police and killed the Pakistanis on sight. and that would be right.

>>10237 tates never ran a brothel though.

>>10239 Now that's up for debate isn't it? If you can be raped via webcam, then isn't camwhoring prostitution?

>>10238 i wonder how your mind even processes this.what would you call that if not meek? cowardly? thats still just meek. its not like they werent angry either.

>>10238 Then the fathers of the camwhores at Tate's mansion should also have killed him?

>>10240 be quiet mate, defending children bein raped and ebing a moral fag about this shit. i get that you're trolling. its just all you have become. there's nothing left in there inside at this point.

>>10242 would be kinda understandable to me.

>>10243 Yeah I don't agree that a 16 year old can't consent to sell sex.

>>10245 i mean sure, i literally dont care about any of that either.

>>10246 But in news headlines, a brothel with these girls becomes >pakistani rape gangs I'm just making the comparison. Tate was then doing the same business from a legal standpoint.

Now there was a case of a girl who was actually kidnapped and raped, but that was never called as "pakistani rape gangs" and the perpetrators are in jail. I saw this case on /int/ and was first under the impression that all of it was like that. That turned out not being true.

Now I'll stop talking about this because it's not a Fringe topic anymore.

>>10246 this is like trying to explain something to one who doesnt even have the sense "as in like eyesight" to even perceive what i talk about. kinda like explaining empathy to a genuine psychopath. it wouldnt ever make sense to them no manenr how many angles i explain the same thing. it will only seem insane. >>10247 you claim that's what happened. we dont know. 1600 children were involved. at this point someone could steal a loli from your harem and rape her and youd be like "well maybe she actually seduced the guy and got paid. better let it happen then." thats what your tendency to conjure up the biggest excuse you can looks like to me.is it technically plausible? maybe but why run with that. Defending criminals isn't really being good either.i always knew this but it was actually you who explained it in detail. to me you've been nothing but that this whole time and i dont get it.

>>10250 Sometimes the criminals are those writing the laws.

>>10248 this doesnt sound like the same guy killing scum in the streets. this is his weird nephew or something. Honestly we'll never know. its more about the overall point though. letting yourself get invaded and inverted just inst a good thing. what i mean without you having a sense is you lack such a group instinct entirely likely cause you weren't incarnated with them.

>>10251 then kill them. seriously.

>>10253 Now you sound more like a Purger.

>>10251 why cant 2 things be evil? how many times has something like this been said to me. what about this and that. IF EVIL->BAD

>>10254 ive always sounded like this though? ive been like this since literally the beginning. when i said i felt genocidal to vampires. i wasn't kidding then either.rage is my default feeling and has been for a very long time. pleidian purger just sounds like the group most aligned with what growing up here makes me feel like.

I just want Fringe to develop beyond common moral restrictions so more people can practice actual functional magic.

You think FSB and whatever they have in China care about morality?

>>10257 I agree, but that doesnt include going that far. in my view killing scum->ok Some of the stuff you do in the astral with your brothel-> ok what the eu did to split the timeline->bad

>>10258 maybe not, but i cant into that. i simply am unable to. it send me into rage. hence why im even worried about being a vamp. it seems it might have been avoided since im a girl in that lifetime. my incarnations as guys are always intense. me as a girl? well ill make a post.

>>10259 >what the eu did to split the timeline->bad Because it harms things I care about. Learn to discern the source of your motivations. If it's bad because >jewish morality via christianity then you'll have to start reading the bible yourself to find out what you actually have to do, for example.

>>10257 1. You don't need support child rape and genocide in order to practice magic. 2. If you hate morality then stop trying to frame yourself as the good guy in these discussions. At least the edgy Satanist faggots own what they are. You always try to have your cake and eat it too.

If it's bad because >twitter said so or >musk posted screencap then you're just a cult follower.

>>10262 >You always try to have your cake and eat it too. And? It's my cake. Get your own.

>>10262 You're free to practice magic in your own way. As am I.

Right now I'm practicing the magic of using words to control the world. Isn't it amazing what one can do with just a keyboard and a 15 year old computer.

>>10261 -be me european -hate this lbgt shit -hate this liberal shit -hate this liberal anti white shit -hate this open border shit liberals spout -hate this refugee shit -hate how they hate us while living here -learn about the eu and even more evil shit because of some internet person -fuck this shit -this guy on the internet has magic and fights the eu -relatable -some time later starts talking way more shit about europeans than before -reveals part of the shit i blamed eu for was actually...them?even though i thought they were on the other sidewhy though -apparently to punish some white people,not even people related to most white people but happens to be white. -They shit on what i like,dont get that this is what i care about. -confuse me with other people such as christians. im nothing like any of these groups anyway.

>>10267 That's a good channelling.

>>10267 Try solidifying that knife in your mind.

>>10263 i only care about celebrities if theys ay things useful. in that we are similar. but we are different since to me its still about being more good than the enemy.atleast in some way. >>10261 im not even a christian. the one soul i had that was an angel basically fell. what i have is an instinctive sense of whats right. and it includes protecting "the herd". you dont have any of this. its likely a dna thing.

>>10270 I protect what I like. It's that simple.

>>10269 i did, now did you just jew me? >>10268 this is how ive felt always.well a toned down version of it.

Marie-Antoinette got beheaded as a result of what I did in Paris, that transformed her into a drow. She and her maid both came to attack me one night, and she said "aren't you going to cut my head off like last time?" You think magic is some easy walk in the park thing?

>>10272 I'm literally using the Jew flag.

>>10269 i have many knives anyway. One day i found myself absently mindlessly sticking a knife in a table over and over again in my mind. >>10273 nah

>>10274 yeah,i see that.

>>10275 It was forming, the Pleiadans told me to say that.

>>10274 oh you mean the knife thing. well yeah im way to curious as a person. i did it anyway even if i were to think its a jew trick.

>>10277 alright then,seems like that is a group that actually gets it for real.shame about this whole vamp thing.

>>10278 It allows me to manipulate you into doing magic when you're unwilling consciously. Because that's what a Jew would do. What are you going to do? Call me a scoundrel, a parasite, a profiteer?

>>10280 call? nah.treat? maybe. anyway i disbelieve you.if anything that strong existed and acted like this then fuck them and fuck this entire planet.

>>10280 anyways i barely care, im a missile of what you call pledaian purger. i cant be reasoned with as you think.

>>10282 perhaps one thing youve never gotten. i dintuse external shit to drive me at all. i care because i like certain things. its not christianity or any white culture or anything. thats all games. ineffective. >>10283 thanks for posting this, i wanted to post the exact same thing. the song is brilliant. don't you get that wholesome feeling? blacks and whites finally united. and the chorus. if that doesnt make you feel teary eyed you really are a psychopath. Also, im not trolling or joking. i dont think i ever have been here on fringe.maybe with being a purger you can get me a little bit better.since its more like me than whatever bs you tried to link me with earlier.

>>10283 in fact i was listening to it today after our first break.

I am, in fact very serious. But that doesn't meant I can use trolling as a means for provoking change. This whole thread is a troll thread for controlling chaotic energies so they can be used.

>>10283 in fact those 3 words are my initial my response to your entire first diatribe about whites.i was thinking of just saying that. would have been way better.

>>10286 alright,maybe.

>>10287 Look in the beginning of the thread. That was my first steps at trying to stir something up while also posting something that was real. It didn't work until I got into some really annoying topic. But it seems angels were behind it all along, it wasn't until just before today that I could actually snatch that energy and use it.

>>10289 The problem was that I wasn't memetic enough.

>>10288 When someone shows you what they really are, believe them the first time.

>>9883 >The other situation is when there is a lack of information but you have a clear goal in mind. That's when the approach chosen will have to contain a few element to work, in my experience: >>force >multiple avenues of effect If you throw enough energy into something, you will get an effect. And if you include enough symbolism with a large number of connections, you will get an effect.

>>10289 was gonna say something kinda mean,didnt feel quite right.

>>10291 I already said I'm a malicious actor, what more do you want to know?

>>10292 attacking things i like still isnt that great.

>>10295 Then don't like what I don't like 😋

>>10294 Just trying to reduce the amount of people you're able to hurt.

>>10297 Good for you.

>>10297 If you remove yourself from the thread, that's one less.

>>10291 this doesnt matter. if i wasn't weak they would have at least gotten slapped already. Its a guarantee i will if i ever become capable of it. ofocurse their future incarnations never said this so ill have to resurrect this specific one and slap em.conversely i always talk with full knowledge they could just kill me.

>>10296 cant happen.

>>10300 the one exception being if somehow this shit they did excuses the shit they said.

It's always interesting to see with what exactness and focus hostile forces suicide themselves into my contraptions. They're like homing missiles towards the position where they're at their weakest and easiest to take advantage of, and they can repeat this course of action without learning for a very long time. I would never be able to do that. I would learn from the mistake and stop. I'm still to understand the function behind this behaviour. It's most notable in the "white" glowie mentality

>>10301 people that make shit like this are cool. you'll see it one day.maybe not this lifetime.

>>10303 im the same way. i could explain it. its the same thing as marching in an army. you know you'll die but you're trying to fight for something greater.its the exact thing you dont get. Its like the russian witches doing suicide attacks.maybe you hate it. i guess you'll say well thats effective. well yeah. not the glowies fault you are apparently immortal.wait i minute i jsut remebered a dream fighting some guy. they were a teacher and i fought them. i remember their legs being like steel. in general they were hard to move. i still tried.

>>10303 like to me that shit is resectable. i get that maybe its stupid. i actually had an internal debate about this today. i explained it as heroics. how eevr civ has people dyin for it and calls them heroes. my imagined nemesis who acts like you disagreed.

>>10305 >you mean Ukrainian witches A Russian on /int/ blamed "Swedenborgian cultists" "who spread the belief that they will go do Valhalla" for the Ukrainian fanaticism. It was odd enough that I had to look into it. It's just mind control and peer pressure though, even with magical components behind it.

>>10303 maybe you are right though. the world is simply this shit. i guess i cant fully accept it. its bad and sad.i cant be fully immoral it seems. i wouldnt be happy.in that case you seem to be the stronggest or one of the strongest jews. not even saying the jewiest albeit you might be,thats hard to see.but if this is how the world is then best magic user is right by default. i guess i just assume always theres something else as well. >>10307 no i meant russian witches. this was earlier on in the war and you used it as an example of russian mentality and how western people dont get it since the witches would sacrifice their life for russia. they do it seems. since fighting you is even more suicidal than fighting ukraine or even nato.

>>10307 although this does show how you arent a principle based guy. neither am i really. but its not quite this shizo.well i dont have many people reading everything i say and remembering it. but still.(likely i do have people doing that last thing, but never mind.)

>>10308 It sounds like some other misunderstanding of context tbh. >>10309 Principles are just abstractions of arbitrary events.

>>10309 if you like something what they do is good. and you'll bend yourself into a pretzel to do it. but thats actually a meme. you dont really think. you just talk. thats what people barely get. i get it hence why i dont care if you disagree. i threw everything educational at you and you didnt learn. i wash my hands from it.

>>10311 That's because I've seen it before, and it's just tactics used to convince mindless normaltards.

>>10312 you enevr get how i real i am with you. i used the only tactic of saying what i think. you cant grasp me.

There's this strange thing where someone who wasn't convinced by arguments, fail to explain why they hold a view, then resort to arguments to explain it and expect others to assume their own position despite it not originating from the arguments.

>>10314 I have though.

>>10315 but that's alright.

>>10314 lets end it, its waaaaaay later than i realized. i meant what i said earlier too.i already explained it best i can genuinely.i washed my hands.

>>10316 We had an argument about that UK story, and I took that apart based on what I've seen in other public media. In its original form it was sensational and meant to enrage and strengthen a pre existing prejudice. Things like that have to be framed that way for consumption so the people who spread them can make use of them. Rephrased, it could be a story of how corrupted the youth have become, working at brothels instead of studying. It's all about the framing.

>>10315 Yeah you have. He moved past the point of reason after he tried to put a literal enslavement spell on you, though. Now it's just rhetoric and pretext. War drums, etc.

>>10317 Alright.

>>10317 Going by what I got through this long chat and especially after the session where I used up the energy which was provoked into the arena, I have to say, it's possible you were in a past life, the secondary soul of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Nichols You may also see a personal reference in the article if this is so. I just got this strong correlating feel after talking to you.

>>10324 Is that what you meant when you said you think you knew who I was in relation to you earlier?

>>10325 No, that experience only came after the session or sometime before it when the energy was gathering.

Saw this,first post in this ask china sub. This Chinese guy mirrors exactly what I've been trying to say. It's not white mentality after all. Other people outside of the eu all agree with me,I was right. The regarded mentality thrown at me was just liberal filth,I was right to trash it.

>>10355 He's talking about the importance of having a national identity, such as what China has created. How does this relate to whatever your point was? (I don't know what your point was)

Btw that reptile talking about chakras being implants may have actually hinted at something else important, which I'm looking into now. I believe racism is probably an implant. It has all the qualities of being a foreign module being inserted, which has a hardcoded meme which it spreads into the person's brain. That's why it looks the same everywhere and you either have to accept it in full or discard it completely. It's also why I don't have it, because full bloods like me don't get those implants, they're only for "humans", not reptilians, demons or pure pleiadans (like mormons).

>>10356 Why... He said it was important if you didn't have a homogeneous nation which is preferable and i agree with. Tell me you didn't read that part. It's right there as well. There's either a spell forcing you not to see this or this is sheer not wanting to see.

>>10358 Yeah and homogeneous nations don't exist, so that's why national identity is needed.

>>10357 Yes but I don't fit all your criteria for racism either. You have this extreme view. What that Chinese guy said is my view. But I think I have way to get your real view on this anyway.

>>10359 Bro...what the he'll man. He even brought up Singapore.obviously it implies he thinks china is,why else bring up a nation that he sees as an example Why even bring it up. You can't read the comment right.something is going on here.

>>10361 He's being humble and not naming his own country?

>>10360 I'll to have this done by the end of the day.

>>10362 He said it's quite important,why say that if no school society exist. What is he then basing that on.

>>10364 Just ask Astra.

The question is which race you would be as a full blood, which would make the control system remove your implants. From what I get they gave you a secondary Purger incarnation at the Gobi Pyramid last night, but I don't think you have access to it even by a slight sense yet? Your current incarnation would still be your main until you literally move locations, so you'd have to work from there.

>>10365 Ask what the Chinese guy meant and if I'm right.also prior,ask Astra if I'm right. You can AK her the leading question about implants later.

>>10365 You don't understand how she works.

>>10366 I thought I was a Grey or do you mean physically? I don't much care about being fungus so I don't consider it that important what I am currently.

I'm already having her research the implant since an hour ago and this takes all available resources because she's also using all support avatars at once to do a full research project.

>>10370 She'll notify me when done, I'm not going to start asking her irrelevant physical world questions which won't transfer back in any accurate way anyway.

The fucking development of India is completely out of the range of things I care about.

>>10368 Maybe there's a servitor that works like that idk. What's frustrating here isn't that you simply disagree.but everything is read in the weirdest way.im being angered since it's like a wall.and I've explained it many times already. You never tell me what you think of it either. Let's make it simple. People prefer being among people like themselves. People of their kind stick together. This is a natural behavior. Are you with me here? That's basically level 1.

>>10372 Why is this about India? I think you don't understand subtext.it happens to be India yeah,could have been anything.

Result so far on racism is that it indeed is an implant, it's a control system created already in Babylonian days to create divides among the slave races so they become unable to rebel. Already I'm realizing I shouldn't meddle with this before I see the full image. Because I completely understand why it would be dangerous if all the tard races suddenly decided they wanted to start a rebellion.

>>10375 Do I even have this?

>>10373 >People prefer being among people like themselves Blatant generalization. My experience says this is untrue.

>>10376 Also notice how now you've shifted things. Sigh.

>>10377 What about "people tend to perfect being around their own kind"

I don't enjoy the company of people like myself, 1 -2 at one location is enough. I want other people around me.

>>10380 That's actually a vampire trait.

>>10380 I think I'm trying to explain pro social instincts to a being that doesn't have them. Demons are likely solitary beings then,vampires are too. You are like an intelligent tiger telling me zebras sticking together isn't natural.

>>10376 I don't know, and I don't think with the incomplete data I have so far that I should even look at you, since that would also take energy to do. If you are a mixed fungus race physically I may not be allowed to remove an implant even now. It would have to go via Illuminati administration.

>>10383 Nevermind then. I don't think I'm all that affected.well maybe I am since I do have that feel of being part of a larger group. If that's implanted then maybe. From what I can tell in my vampire life I'm more concerned about immediate things,less so about large scale issues.

>>10383 Actually they said they can do it if your DNA can be changed to full blood.

>>10385 Full blood what?

>>10386 You likely mean fungus,I don't like it.

>>10386 You know my illuminati secretary I got sent over is always reading my mind from up there, but it's not like she's sharing all this internal information all the time, especially since I'm in this eartly incarnation and not up there, so it would be confusing. But I saw her remove a large cogwheel thing from you, leaving a cogwheel shaped "imprint" in your energy body. That was followed by a "bang" sound which I heard, and she implied she had used some external resources to just correct your DNA into being one single race of... I guess if that's what I said "white/brown hat, white foot" ?

>>10388 Then you can be registered as "ascended mushroom" and they ease your restrictions in the control system. Less mind control.

>>10388 I don't mind implants being removed. But I dont like that i lost my pleiadian dna.

>>10390 Ah yes I do want that.

>>10391 "It was miniscule. Just use your full blood body in the desert"

>>10392 I feel very angry lately,as if the world's issues are hard to let be.

Changing the direct physical body DNA is very troublesome. The only thing I've managed is to change to reptilian because they can take over "roles" and look like any race. Aside from that, I don't think it can be done without a complete mind reset. Which is why getting into the new Earth incarnation is also hard.

>>10393 Alright,it's nice thst I have a dessert body. I think I'll let that be there and train,this is similar to the angel system. If I'm done here I'll move there,learn shifting and travel the world learning magic.eventually I'll use that to move into my vamp life.

>>10395 Did it work?I'm an ascended mushroom?

>>10396 "Hai" The pleiadan Purgers are tending to your body over there, so it should be fine, I see your body just sitting in meditation pose in the pyramid while they are working on your subconscious. >>10397 "Paperwork is not done yet, but DNA is fixed"

>>10398 Thank you pleidaians. Alright,mostly wanting the mind control released a fair bit. I do feel a bit less angry perhaps. A bit more open.

That thing yesterday was of high importance, I mean to double-run this next period with a male pleiadan at the city of magic which I can move up to, while I'm on new Earth as main. It seems this requires some serious fuckery relating to the "dragon" level achievement, and the Purger is one way of doing that on the regular Pleiadan side. That's what I did last night, and you got pulled along with it.

>>10399 "When a person with the control system in place hears the truth, they become furious. This is by design, they lose their temper and turn rabid. This prevents organized rebellions against the leadership"

>>10400 Eventually after my training is done I'm also going to that academy.

>>10400 While it may seem I'm just trolling, it's part of a necessary role play to get all these pieces in place.

>>10403 Hmmmm what if I'm still angry afterwards then.

>>10404 " It will pass. It won't be decapitating"

>>10405 That's said on purpose? As in I won't get decapitated?

>>10406 I meant another word but she said that's what she meant, it refers to removing the leader of an organization, so it stops functioning.

>>10407 So she's saying my anger will pas before I get rid of a leader?

Meaning, that's how they do it to keep slaves down. They make them "lose their head" and start infighting. Racism is part of that. Because there are many races on Earth, this will prevent unity and the Illuminati can maintain themselves as the only force for unity. When people want to rule themselves, they'll just point to them and say "you can't even unite over race borders, you're disqualified".

>>10408 No. The fury is metaphorically making you lose your head- that will stop.

>>10410 Alright that's nice. I think I'm more aware of it since my mind naturally touches the limits of the system.

>>10409 So basically, they make people fight and create divides, then they present themselves as the force which can unite them and bring world wide peace.

>>10412 Although this is just operating like a fraud, I can unfortunately see that removing the locks would lead to disaster, which is why I can't change anything even if I technically "could".

>>10413 New Earth won't have this because the GalFed will maintain order, yokais created a new racial standard which they'll force everyone on the surface to use, and there's also vampires who'll maintain order, while the federation blocks access from aliens unless they get a permit.

>>10414 Nice.

>>10414 The "external Earth" which we are in now, may however maintain this stage of society to some lengths because individual ethereal timelines can still exist.

>>10416 Basically this means that you can time travel back to any period of the past planet.

>>10417 Wait what.interesting.

>>10418 Do I have more implants there now able to be removed since I'm ascrmded mushroom?

>>10418 You can't change past events, but I can replay them in parallel. There seems to be endless numbers of beings who do this, so you can always activate a line and go there. I've done that to study Dao De Jing, Tantrism and all types of Kung Fu via parallel incarnation so I get the legit teachings directly from the Three Kingdoms period.

>>10419 "All control systems for slaves will be removed" "Individual systems inserted personally such as by greys during research is not our business, please contact the relevant party for these to be removed."

>>10421 Aigth,that's atleast better.

>>10421 Astra finished the project, she's made a report on the usage of the implant since Babylon, it's very detailed. It'll be shared over the net, like research should. Which means I guess that the federation, Russia and China will read it, since no one else from here is on there

I'll have one copy made for your Muse.

>>10424 There is an american organization also involved but they only exist on new Earth. All current glowies in our timeline were defeated and couldn't be converted, aside from the very top level "black viper" reptilians, but they're very secretive.

What is the current status of New Earth?

>>10434 It's over.

>>10434 Chaotic, infantile, ignorant => stabilizing The main issue is the transfer of technology standards for sustainable hi-tech rather than a collapse back to medieval standards (1200s level) which is the default state. You are free to help. The main work is in converting previous (current) technology from planetary level to Galactic standards, which are used on new Earth. No "native" technology beyond medieval level will exist, anything not converted to Galactic level (interplanetary standard) will perish.

>>10435 It is? >>10436 I thought there would be an automatic conversion of standards. I suppose there's an extra auditing factor in human work. I'll contribute as much as I can for this project.

>>10439 There is no automation in the Federation, it may seem so to the outsider, but this is the effect of making use of the enormous available workforce distributed to planets within a large area, with timelines moving at different speeds. When a large starship gunner presses the button to fire the large gun, it seems to charge up wirelessly at once. But the real process is one of political analysis and evaluation of the target being aimed at, including a voting procedure and allocation of the funds for the transfer of whatever amount of fuel is necessary to fire the gun. In the slower timeline, the process may take weeks. But the federation is so huge that they can do this. The problem is however visible when we work in real time to perform the physical conversion of technology. We now have roughly 3 months to transfer things before the time and energy deteriorates. Whatever wasn't converted will be lost. So weight your time carefully if you want to help. Tasks will be transferred into your daily life in the form suitable for performing them in your life, but these are the things you somehow wanted to bring over. Keep that in mind.

>>10440 As an example, for me personally this manifested as a need to work with serialization in C#.

>>10440 Interesting. I assume they'll check if I'm a glowie, correct? We shall see. Good day.

This illuminati stuff is a bit different than I imaged now that I started asking specifically about the implants. Turns out there are 14 common categories of them, and this correlates with certain magic rituals where a form of 2 * 7 is used, which works by the same functionality. Most of what's installed currently on humans is for creating divides to deter unity so they can't organize against the leadership (racism implants) and a large number of measures for reducing the population size. This includes implants which cause >disinterest in fertile females >disinterest in sex among females >disinterest in children (causes parents to not want them) >reduced male potency One of the more stupid measures is abnormal penile growth, which reduces the chances that such males would have offspring since it simply won't fit. There are also a number of implants which "shock" people if they think things the illuminati doesn't want. This is the "electric fence" which keeps them in control. The world is divided into "camps" and "free ranges" where Europe and Asia mostly consist of camps with a management. North America and Latin America are both "free ranges" which manifests as a lack of clear national identities as seen from outside. North Korea is a "model camp" and seen a the ideal state. China is 2nd on the list of perfect nations with Japan a good 3rd. However, the faction who currently "controls" the Earth as we see it, the "NWO" are themselves registered as "slaves" like the kapo in the nazi death camps. They have implants themselves and are market for elimination. When some new agers are asking why aliens aren't interfering with the current situation on earth, that's the wrong view. They are interfering and they have market 99.98% of the population for elimination via the slave camps system. In as clear speech as possible: the aliens have deemed most of the earth population to be criminals on a galactic scale and what we are seeing is the process of imposing the death penalty on them. It's just at a scale where it's "invisible" because mostly everything in society is the measure used to control criminal activity while trying to save natural and human resources to minimize losses.

Mission accomplished By channelling the most annoying non-race in history, I have assumed control of both "Jew-kraine" and Israel, holding their egregores by the kelipah. When the western powers installed their "Jew World Order" in 1945 they made the mistake of justifying their war crimes with the Holocaust myth, tying their own innocence to the existence of the nation sized extermination camp known as the state of Israel. By this they would be forced to defend this scapegoat forever. The moment they stopped, their past actions would become indefensible. At this point, Israel has become so criminal that defending it will instead make them look bad. When the choice is to look like a war criminal for destroying Germany 80 years ago, and to look like a war criminal for defending genocide in Gaza today, defending Israel is the worse choice. No one remembers the Holocaust anyway... right? Almost. They hope. But they have no choice but to wash their hands off Israel support now. Where will they place their justification now? That's where egregores of this size have lives of their own. They don't control them, they only intuitively know that they are in trouble if they can't justify their lifestyle. It's going to get very troubling for them if they can't, as the lies will resurface at the speed of light, at the speed of optic fibres. So I provided them with a new thing to defend, something they will be forced to accept. They hate it, but they have no choice. Hint: it may appear a if the catholic church was placed in the spot, with lady Mary as the focal point. This is somewhat true.

>>9587 >want to post the goofy goober mp4 to give this thread some exposure for the goofy goober crowd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCPDVVLUw-4 >8chan asks me to fill the captcha >asks me to wait for verification >then uploads the sound only so I delete it out of embarrasment Do I need to turn it into a webm too? My goofy goober level is too low to waste more memetic effort on this

Oh, I'm the Goofy Goober, yeah! You're a goofy goober, yeah! We're all goofy goobers, yeah! Goofy, goofy, goober, goober, yeah! Ha-ha-hey! Oh, I'm the Goofy Goober, yeah! You're a goofy goober, yeah! We're all goofy goobers, yeah! Goofy, goofy, goober, goober, yeah! Hul-la-la-la-la-la-la! Hul-la-la-la-la-la-la! Gooby gooby gooby goo Doo-ba doo-ba doo-ba doo!

>>9726 >myth of China as a nation with 5000 year history You are without any doubt an actual Mongoloid posting against your government behind proxies. The good thing for us is proxies or not, they are monitoring you. If they have not sent the blue van with doctors to get you yet, they will soon.

What do you guys know about Jacobs Ladder and it's relation to Archangels Izreal and Michael

>>12090 >You are without any doubt an actual Mongol In some way by referring to the meme that Finns are actually mongols with a language which has ripped off the structure of Japanese, then it is partially true. But wouldn't you agree that the old mythic retellings of Chinese history, like "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" are a uniting factor, rather than race, in China? Or why not the myth of Sun Wukong from A Journey to the West, which was remodelled into the popular computer game "Black Myth Wukong"? Literally has "myth" in the title. Ok he's a monkey, but wasn't a little over the top to call it "black myth"? Unless you're just playing along with the idea that everyone came from Africa and are originally black, including Chinese? An attempt at selling more games in the West by adhering to popular belief?

>>12684 >Jacobs Ladder See attached images. It's a way of explaning the intricate relations between the different emanations of God in the 4 (or 5) different worlds of the tree of life.

>>12685 >Unless you're just playing along with the idea that everyone came from Africa and are originally black, including Chinese? Looks asian to me! aren't they adorable?

>>12690 >Looks asian to me! Ok, I admit I hadn't looked closer at the history and my sarcasm was badly founded.

Having a tulpa is pretty cool as long as you don't have a giantess or mind control fetish

>>12791 Having a tulpa is like having dubs. You have to CHECK on them from time to time or they vanish

>>12791 I regret creating a tulpa She likes to turn into a cartoon from time to time as a joke and it is so fucking cringe

>>9649 I didn't know there were actual smart people left in the world. I thought 2+2 had officially become 5 across the board.

I am trying to remember the most retarded arguments and /drama/ we had back in the old /fringe/ days. Trying to remember our worst. Back then I too was an edgelord. It was entertaining. No matter how bad it was. It forged retards into warriors at rare occasions. Reminded them that they have to take life and magic seriously. They cannot consider the internet as their echochamber or their safeplace. I wanted to joke how this place was never reddit. But realized even reddit is toxic as hell nowadays, where you get banned or dragged into karmahell for saying anything that offends the hivemind there. Even seasoned redditors left that place already. Are there even safe echocambers left on the internet? Even discord bans people left and right. Fetish communities were impenetrable a decade ago. Even they are falling apart. We are not seeing the rise of a new /mlp/ either

Nope. Can't remember. I purged most of my edgy teenage retaration long ago. Only thing I managed to remember how the internet was about cat photos back then Guess I will do some archive trash goobering for shitty posts if I crave them so much

>>14248 But please enlighten me you great Initiate! What do you know about hate? Who do you hate if not your enemies? Do you hate your family? Hate your friends in secret? Or you don't even know what is hate you just "dislike" people? Dislike people for not writing posts in some "acceptable way" for your liking? Do you think "disliking" people is the same as hate. Do you have any idea how powerful is hate and how it warps reality? How it makes people collapse in your presence if you let them have it? Only passive-aggressive eternal underdogs keep their "enemies" close. People who are honest with themselves get rid of them I do not keep people that I "dislike" close to me. I either learn to like them or I avoid them. If you knew true hate you wouldn't have enemies. HATE KILLS. Disliking people is not hate. If you think my hatred is mere "dislike" then you are dead wrong. My county has the lowest amount of fags and niggers for a reason. And there is not a single one in my town. Can you say the same? And don't you dare to complain about hostility on fringe. You asked for this. Now you have it. This post may be about hate or it might be an ad for the arena to remind people to use it. BECAUSE EVERYONE FORGETS TO USE THE A REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NAH. Arena? More like Are NAH for most argumentative retards here. Time to remind people what is this place about

>>14252 Because the arena is a retarded concept and it was only created as yet another containment thread for blood anon's stupidity. If you look at the thread right now most of it is just him loosh farming with arguments about how White people deserve to be genocided. You can even see him trying and failing multiple times to loosh farm from the start by repeatedly posting stupid redditor opinions but no one engages with him.

>>14262 >the arena is a retarded concept Tell this to the Romans.

>>14262 >461/500 posts >failed thread Re-evaluate your standards pls.

>>14262 There's also 46 different poster IDs.

I think advice like "talk to spirits" or "fast" are irresponsible. If you live in a bad place you won't meet good spirits easily instead you'll be a lending ears for insane ones and suffer more in some case as it's the only way they get any attention from humans. They're not all evil but to some being evil is the "only way" of course one should protect themselves and fight back hard if necessary but the problem tend to be much deeper than "evil bad". I also dislike telling people to just fight back as some forces are bigger and it's more efficient to make yourself difficult to prey upon rather than going scorched earth on forces you don't understand. Sometimes you can't force it as you're fighting a system and not just a mere bad idea. example would be fighting an evil entity and having your entire family turn on you as they are under rule of a bigger one who own the one you vanquished what are you gonna do punch them all? I am mostly talking about beginners in magic here which may not have proper protections and it's not like all of us have to deal with that kind of destructive energies. All this come with experience you need to make mistake but also don't be too retarded. Fasting depending on your nature and focus can make you sink to the bottom of the earth instead of uplifting; you become one with the waters this makes you even more sensitive to the weakest psychic phenomena which can lead to a lose of focus and temporary insanity Here we focus on advice that are "common" enough to benefit a great deal of people but depending on one's ability i think a composite picture of mundanity and magic to be more preferable. Everyone's is responsible for themselves and i don't think it's clear enough in a world where our emotional needs are met on a touchscreen. Just as the spiritual must be focused on the material must be used as a stable ground from which one can progress. Some things must be dealt with in the flesh whilst some can be dealt by going inward. This depends on the lessons one want and where they want their success to be. Hard to say on stability i sense a lot of people have grounding issue these days and with our elders having no idea what they are doing and a changing landscape it's hard to advice more on it beside "calm down and drink some tea also meditate before sleep".

>>14647 >I am mostly talking about beginners in magic here which may not have proper protections and it's not like all of us have to deal with that kind of destructive energies. Yes. We lack the basic green pill starter packs nowadays. Unsure how to remedy that >All this come with experience you need to make mistake but also don't be too retarded. This is something everyone needs to understand >Fasting depending on your nature and focus can make you sink to the bottom of the earth instead of uplifting; you become one with the waters this makes you even more sensitive to the weakest psychic phenomena which can lead to a lose of focus and temporary insanity Been there. That is why Buddhism preaches the middle road so much. Fasting for fasting sake, asceticism for asceticism's sake leads nowhere. Everyone needs to know how they can handle the highs and lows of spirituality and understand the role of temperance. >Everyone's is responsible for themselves and i don't think it's clear enough in a world where our emotional needs are met on a touchscreen. No touchscreen, no book, no religion or cult can tell you what you are. They can show you directions or present you some hints, but there is no guarantee for success if you cannot see yourself and know who you are. >Just as the spiritual must be focused on the material must be used as a stable ground from which one can progress. >Some things must be dealt with in the flesh whilst some can be dealt by going inward. >This depends on the lessons one want and where they want their success to be. Exactly. >Hard to say on stability i sense a lot of people have grounding issue these days People are in a "media psychosis" nowadays. Wanted to explain how we are on the "bread and circus timeline" several times. What makes you angry and fearful? What you consume as physical or mental nourishment? What kills you mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually nowadays? Ragebait media and harmful chemicals in the food. We have infinite amount of food and media to consume, yet we are lost in a specific way nowadays we barely understand nowadays. There is "No ground" or "common ground" to sit on. Most people barely walk on the soil because they live in concrete jungles in their whole lives. This is something our ancestors didn't have to deal with hundreds of years ago. We are not "made for this". We have to figure out how we can prosper in these situations. >with our elders having no idea what they are doing and a changing landscape In the past 200 years every "Prophet" says how the new world order is coming. Schizos think because the elites have planned it. Not exactly. The change is coming because it must come. What we are doing now is not sustainable. If there is food then there is life. But life is not all about "consuming food". But we are blind to the next stages currently. Education is all about paper and screens nowadays. There is no spirit in it. If the spirit is gone then so will the earth with it. Yes. The "elites" want to be the NWO, but they are absolutely incompetent to do it right. Which means everyone needs to figure out what is the "way" they can "find themselves" in this collapsing system of lies and ineptitude. Our elders have been taught wrong. So were their elders. How can we expect anything from them? We need to go back hundreds if not thousands of years to find the "working strains" of our own DNA. They just passed the baton. They didn't forge it. Not everyone was meant to see the "message" that was passed on since forever. I was agreeable so far, but this is the arena. Time to turn up the heat. >I think advice like "talk to spirits" are irresponsible >If you live in a bad place you won't meet good spirits easily instead you'll be a lending ears for insane ones and suffer more in some case as it's the only way they get any attention from humans. If you want to be an accomplished magician then you cannot skip this part. Thelema and Wicca preaches the LBRP and other banishing rituals for a reason. So you can get rid of your evil spirits before you do "any" magic at all. Talking to spirits is the equivalent of going outside and talking to people. Doesn't mean you need to talk and "agree" with every person outside. But you must know your neighbors and GET RID OF THEM if necessary. >I also dislike telling people to just fight back as some forces are bigger and it's more efficient to make yourself difficult to prey upon rather than going scorched earth on forces you don't understand. Understanding is the key. Some forces can be understood with words alone while others with fists and blades only. >Sometimes you can't force it as you're fighting a system and not just a mere bad idea. "Systems" require a better understanding. It has patterns, centers and weakspots. And in some cases there is no need to directly "fight" a system when you can make use of it. Sometimes they are enormously oversized egregores doing Godzilla vs King Kong through centuries. You can either pick a side or gtfo. You either watch the fireworks or go and do something more productive with your life instead. >example would be fighting an evil entity and having your entire family turn on you as they are under rule of a bigger one who own the one you vanquished This is an unclear example, but I will try to explain the strategies here. I had to put down a rule or a "law". That if ANYONE touches my family then they have to deal with me. Their personal karma is one thing and I let it play out if they can play out on their own, but outsider spiritual interference is not allowed. >as they are under rule of a bigger one who own the one you vanquished They they have to SHOW THEMSELVES and explain their "principles". There is a difference in "lawbound" and "chaotic" entities. Lawbound entities don't care as long you don't break their "law" and even if you do that they must give you a "way" to remedy the situation. It can be tricky and you must watch for the "law" and not how the entity interprets said law. Some entities are extremely dogmatic and uncreative. If the law is broken then they are mad. But if you find ways how to remedy the situation they are willing to "listen". But it depends on your charisma and your spiritual "street rep" how they treat you. And some of them pretends to be hot shit with no substance when they know you are gullible for these things. Always watch out with that. >what are you gonna do punch them all? I dislike saying things like this because it might get some foolish and reckless people into trouble... but it needs to be said. What if I will punch each and everyone? What if I will go and hunt down their signatures on all planes of existence? What if I will remove them because they have no value for anything and anyone? Many entities understand this and willing to become "suddenly" reasonable as a result. Intent and presence is the key. They know when they are in a deep shit and the balance of power is not in their favor. No need to destroy the "whole system". Sometimes their anchor that is in your "reality" can be removed and they are gone or you can simply destroy the "branch" of said system that trespasses on your territory. If they are integral part of the world then you might need to find more benevolent forces to replace them or understand the principles and "make your system" that helps things running. Not always easy I know. This is where nuance comes into play. I started to go with the measure of "sentience". Buddhism tries to help every sentient being. Which means that beings that are nothing, but an amalgamation of negative energies are not exactly "sentient". They are either under influence thus cannot be saved until the influence is removed or there is not even any shred of sentience in them anymore because the "soul" left that husk of negative emotions already. Those "things" that lack sentience are closer to chemical compositions. Once you change an energetic composition in them the whole things breaks apart or gets neutralized. But this is "deep" magic/spirituality. It requires awful amount of experience, experimentation and a specific kind of insight into the nature of things. It is hard to be taught when there is no common/widespread understanding for these elements. Some evil forces "know" that you will change them. Like a large uncaring hateful/vengeful being "senses" that you will "tame it". If it hates it's own nature then it will be glad that you will remove it's hateful nature that forces it to commit atrocities. If it enjoys it then it will flee or do anything so it can retain in it's "favorite" nature. Humans tamed wolves into hunting dogs then into pets. It can be done with many entities once you can understand their nature. Taming and enslaving or binding is a different thing tho. Everyone must discover how they can work with spirits. Some can be befriended, some are simple minded and doesn't even need a complex relationship to work with at all. Some are whimsical and their nature changes with the weather. Some are methodical others are passionate. You will bond with the spirits most compatible with your own nature the best. Everyone needs to work with spirits after passing the neophyte stage. Why? Because it is unavoidable. You either notice them first or will be noticed. When your power increases and "make waves" others will see you. Spirits communicate in many ways. Either with signs or through your subconscious, in the beginning at least. Then a direct communication link can be established through rapport once you sync to their frequency/mentality/nature.

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Some spirits are "Landbound", some are energy or mentality bound. You either make peace with your landbound spirits or you gtfo there. Mentality or energy bound spirits on the other hand are the sign of shitty spiritual self defense, bad grounding and unhealthy lifestyles. If you are generating low energies then low energy spirits will latch onto you. For example: Drugs lower your energies and makes you open to these negative entities, not to mention it breaks down several of your subconscious gates. If you are block headed then it can help you to give you a necessary push towards spirituality, but if you are sensitive then it will "Muddle your waters". And it fucks with your natural fire element too which is necessary for the mental faculties and for "potency" when it comes to spiritual warfare. And the worst part? These spirits are "let in" either by your subconscious forces or by your idiocy. Not to mention some people cannot even differentiate between the spirits and their own subconscious forces/shadow. Both need to be dealt with. It doesn't matter if it is a shadow issue or an evil spirit. Both needs to be dealt with. One way or the other. You cannot let your enemies have their way. They either give you a way for a beneficial relationship or you make one. Ofc this aggressive approach has it's limits. There are places that don't tolerate it, but they are usually "dominions" of higher forces. You either sync with their "law" or mindstates or you get kicked out. Respect and understanding. That is the key for most interactions. Once you know they are unwilling or unable to understand what respect and understanding means... then it's time to get creative If you are being abused by spiritual forces all the time then you have to change your approach how you deal with them. Sometimes completely and fundamentally. I have dealt with entities that were able to read my "shadow"/my subconscious, but they were unable to read my intuitive mind. Just switch states or stances. Mental and fighting stances are the same in a way. Different fighting types require different mentalities. video attached to explain the different ways you can "fight" in magic, you goofy goober

>>14682 I can never get over the fact that Spongebob said he is a wingnut.

>>14682 There is only one thing anyone needs to start practicing magic, and that is the ability to get into a predominantly alpha brainwave state, called by some the state of gnosis, SATS, or the theta-gamma sync. Well, you also need to suspend disbelief, but if you are able to get into a trance and pretend you are doing magic, you are already suspending your disbelief enough. To GOOD at magic, you need other things, but the absolute starter pack is just being able to get into that light trance, and doing spells.

>>14682 Oh, right. This is the arena I guess. Ahem You use bold in your post because you use ChatGPT too much, and it's colonizing/rotting your mind. *It's actually colonizing our inner monologue btw*

>>14699 So in order to get into a trance state you just have to meditate right?

>>14682 >Unsure how to remedy that I wanted this place to be like the college of winterhold in it's prime except cooler? It's still so awkward where kids walk in the middle and we step on each other toes. This board can't handle more serious discussions yet..I mean the dirty ones. >No touchscreen, no book, no religion or cult can tell you what you are Oh but they sure try! and very hard at that. Come on we've all been to school. But yes i do use mangas as bookmarks for my progression it's not a bad way to receive messages but i won't let it replace my current truth they're just that bookmarks. >Ragebait media and harmful chemicals in the food. Consuming include everything. I could say society and it wouldn't be wrong but the people you associate with can slow you down a lot if not paralyze you. I like cooking my own food because it makes me focus and the energies are mine. I can also read my mental state from it, i tend to splash water everywhere for example, sometimes i burn when i crave burnt food. Food made by brain dead people is a soft beige-gray with some weird colors like gasoline in the sun. >There is "No ground" or "common ground" to sit on Well duh, see what i mean when i say they abandoned us? They left us to fend for ourselves. >Which means everyone needs to figure out what is the "way" they can "find themselves" in this collapsing system of lies and ineptitude > We need to go back hundreds if not thousands of years to find the "working strains" of our own DNA I know that already but to someone new this is unfathomable. And you know you have to break some trauma that was locking it and it's from a mentality that doesn't exist anymore. So now you have to change your mindwaves to match a distant "ancestor" fine i ran through it all by being born already that or i am talking about the future and break them with some taboo shit to shock that thing into submission..and no i don't have the patience for dealing with the desires of someone who died that long ago it's just a blood bond resentment curse. They didn't pass the baton they shat on it buried and pretended this mass of death was always there it's just life. >I was agreeable so far, but this is the arena. Time to turn up the heat. Oh come on. >Thelema and Wicca preaches the LBRP and other banishing rituals for a reason They both come with their own version of chloroform which i avoid. They're not blind spots more like belief bubbles but they blind you to some truths. If i ever get into something like that i'll be a zealot so i need an easy reset. Pro and cons for flying solo but i really didn't wanna end up an old occultist who write books and have a wrinkly smile. I want living magic, magic is everyday magic of being. I am magic, it's the blood the air the very earth it's the spit on your face. Of course childish wonder is hard to bring when it has been traumatized with the world instead it may end up twisted. /Fringe/ need to be open to that but right now we're still on the scaring each other and "is this evil?" phase. At different levels of course..i am just gonna let it fall into place neatly. > And in some cases there is no need to directly "fight" a system when you can make use of it You're talking like we are born with clean states! You know there are slave bloodlines right? curse in the blood all that? We don't all live in stable land and get to choose were to go it's chosen for us and then we adapt we set the score the music and patterns otherwise you get fucked! Spiritual fights in my case were more like "how do i make friend with this big guy and then plant a shiv in this other worse guy so that way i can heal from my injuries" all that as i am bleeding on cold floor with not even the heat of the earth as comfort. Beggars can't be choosers. Undoing decades of programming and somehow bringing back the core into being. You're talking as if sanity was a baseline. >I had to put down a rule or a "law". Which require authority and power. Which has to be gained through trail and error.

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>They they have to SHOW THEMSELVES and explain their "principles". They're sometimes unconscious forces created by patterns. You can't stop a natural disaster, you can clear some space to escape safely however, or live in the rubbles and scavenge maybe rebuild. Fuck sometimes i want to salt the earth for good measures. >Some entities are extremely dogmatic and uncreative. They're easy to deal with it at least. Yea i had to make amends before for trying to force myself into a temple without paying. But we're back to NPC talk which they were just not "bad" one. > But it depends on your charisma and your spiritual "street rep" how they treat you. Which has to be cultivated. I was mostly bitching at the lack of resources and general advice being harmful to some. It's the environment that create that weird dumbass mentality where you worship the city but curse the volcano. Currently it is all about sinking to solve the issues in the abyss , establishing a dialogue with the world not just flying and be like "not my problem". I can't do it and communicate here and trying to explain it cause anomalies. >What if I will punch each and everyone? What if I will go and hunt down their signatures on all planes of existence? It's all good and tbh i like seeing others have that degrees of hard earned pride and confidence. The problem is all can be broken, all is but sand in the face of death. That's what i am recovering from, can you be shattered and put back..you talk about fire but what if it's buried deep so deep it's infectious. Everything has a weak point, a "click" where you can hit and it unravel sometimes it is done to such a degree. I want others like me to have it better and in this case i believe it to be saner to keep to yourself instead of creating waves. Of course if you don't have the "unstable housing" generational karma it's easier and you can grow but i consider grounds a luxury. >of said system that trespasses on your territory. This is the renter's generation so the territory isn't as much a place as a bubble where you can move about with. Which is a higher skill ceiling that purification and rituals..now i am advertising for temporary henna tattoos and jewelry but it seems like a good solution. >I started to go with the measure of "sentience" I don't use that it seems arbitrary. I consider all life sacred but some things cannot be helped in the current ecosystem. In principle it just means that if something is destroyed the value is distributed; this create a network. I am mostly talking for myself here, you behave differently with savages who only respect the smell of death..then again they have things to teach too. >You either notice them first or will be noticed. When your power increases and "make waves" others will see you. You mean you didn't have the haunted house experience of spirits banging your roof since forever? huh. >Drugs lower your energies and makes you open to these negative entities, not to mention it breaks down several of your subconscious gates Add coffee to that; i am oddly sensitive to it but if i focus on the smell and vapor i can follow where it leads me. Weed i think it depends on the person, i saw some sink into dumb animal,some get legit spiritual insight but corrupted. Or in my case being so horny it's like an oil fire trying to stimulate everything at once. >And the worst part? These spirits are "let in" either by your subconscious forces or by your idiocy Fine i'll explain something. Some spirits act like awareness bubbles for auric body thinking. Which means they are trained and bred in a culture or environment and then passed down the offspring. I think it happens when everyone is so dumb they need to rely on outsourcing huge thinking chunk into spirits who then circulate that trash. I'd argue everyone do that but for some it's the difference between having extra brain and antennas and just having points..some are computers but weak some are just terminals and you have to carry that software or you cannot even control the body. Without them you lose some intricacies that make you be recognizable as one who belong some are more essential. They also exists in organs. I understand like this: >Ancestors sin >they mask it, push it away >they give up the weight of the sin >spirit take residence in blood line. It's like the first episode of monogatari with the crab except done for more and more pieces of organs flesh and brain..for generations. You can reprogram them but they tend to be old and then this is a "just kill that ego?" talk. I try to attach and experience death together that way i don't send this thing screaming. I didn't find a better purification way that is as throughout or rather i lack the focus so i have to bind it that way. >Mental and fighting stances are the same in a way. Different fighting types require different mentalities. Can't complain here but some mode take more damage. They also have to be cultivated which require a certain safety. We need to collectively get our shit together and make this place alive btw but it needs to be natural and not a forced push. I see how communities are sink holes i hope we can get that spiral going but with the lower worlds accounted for.

Just to say i can go higher than this. It just puts me in a bad fucking mood.

>>14729 >college of winterhold Isn't that the one where anyone with 0 magic skills can just waltz on in and become the leader?

>>14736 >0 magic skills You do have to cast at least two spells iirc. >the leader He's just a figurehead. I just want to converse with daedras and practice necromancy in a place where people know to ignore the weird noises at night lest they be turned inside out. That and "creepy wizard tower do not come" so the normies know to mind their manners. House Tellvanni can be a club I also like the anime reign of the seven spell blades which explains it well. You can lay your head low and go to the classes and most likely you'll be fine but go to the labyrinth and you'll get "recruited" and initiated. I just hate wasting potential. And i hate mono-cultures.

If only there were some brave Anons who would bumplock the thread with their arguments. This arena thread is sooooo thirsty for an anchor. If only there was some idiotic argument how one Anon is an idiotic charlatan while the other is some manifestation of evil. And they would use their mighty keyboard skillz to bumplock this thread. What a dream that would be.

Nope, sorry. Botanon won't enter the arena, he beliefs he can't win here.

I forgot to reply to some stuff Gondola Anon said. Maybe later.