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The Arena Anonymous 02/27/2025 (Thu) 16:58:50 No. 7217
Focused discussions & arguments. Keeping it within the topic range of /fringe/, this thread is meant for controversial topics or discussions which may lead to heated arguments. If you feel your post may initiate such an exchange, bring it to the Arena.
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I will try making a post which fits the theme of this thread. WE HAVE SEVERAL SHITPOST AND RETARDED ARGUMENTS THREADS ALREADY! I DON'T SEE THE POINT OF MAKING AN ANOTHER ONE. THIS THREAD SUCKS SO DOES EVERYONE WHO POSTS IN IT. HURR DURR I AM VERY ANGRY BECAUSE MY FEELINGS WERE HURT ONCE AND I WILL NEVER GROW UP FROM IT. Also I am far more smarter and civilized compared to all of you and I would have made a far better thread and uh... You are all bullshit occultists and you will never become the real smiley! Also traps are gay. k this is enough as a thread starter. Retardation flows on it's own anyway. You don't need to work for it in any way. Wanted to joke in the deleted focused discussion thread that now that it is called a focused discussion thread it will be anything but that. But when people are angry and suffer from energetic attacks joking about it just makes things worse. Some might think that the jokester is part of the attack and in situation like those further confusion is the worst for all parties. Btw several parties are interested in fringe. 2 days ago some of them tried to introduce themselves while I meditated. They were very vague about everything so I didn't mention it because it seems like we are going through a breakthrough process and I am unsure where it will lead.
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Gods ordain reality through secret symbolical mechanisms repeating patterns and numerals. Whoever gets repeating digits automatically wins the argument. Whoever does not check the numerals automatically loses the argument. If you want to win then make sure to GET them DUBS and don't forget to CHECK'EM
Judaism is actually a decent practice.
>>7236 2 more temples and it will work for sure
>>7236 But wait, I can back it up. I just spent 2,5 hours meditating on the meaning of the old testament after assuming a mental state which would match that of the original Jews; meaning, a kind of being - as mentioned elsewhere - who is lower than the Skinny Bob grey alien who only has pain receptors: a being who doesn't even respond rationally to pain, and thus cannot be educated or corrected in any way whatsoever, as individuals. If a group of beings do not learn from mistakes, the only way for them to exist is by having a variety of attitudes; that is diversity. Then when their random and senseless behaviour leads them into an extinction event, some of them will randomly survive. Not because they know anything, but because they just randomly are adapted to the demands of the situation. This makes diversity a REQUIREMENT for survival. If everyone thinks the same, and acts in unison, there is a high risk the entire race is wiped out at once. This explains why Jews must always advocate for diversity, they don't understand why, but they can only survive if they have it. Social Darwinism is in work here, only those who advocate for diversity has remained over history, because that is what works for them. NOW on to why the Torah and the other books, known to us as the Old Testament, works: If you cannot make use of pain as a way to determine right or wrong, at all, what is your mental state? I was sitting in quarter lotus which is the asana I prefer, and then I focused on any pain in the body. I spread this perception out so that it would rest equally on all pain receptors, making the pain worthless as an indicator of any problem. Then I created a tulpa, a mind, which maintains this mentality, of not being able to use even pain to determine if the state of the body is correct or not. Then I moved my awareness and focus to this tulpa, in a state of trance, to act mentally in this manner. I then began going through the books of Moses, starting from Genesis, visualizing the events, and their meaning, the text, comparing it to the Kabbalistic tree of life, and what I can remember of the Tanya Rabbati and the kelipah (shells, shadow), the sitra achra (animal nature) and how all of these relate to the inner alchemic system of the body. I found that this mentality, creates a full focus on only the pineal gland. The entire first section of God creating the world and the descent down from paradise, then activates only the pineal gland multiple times in different ways, until it moves to the amygdala, which then forms the top of the tree of life, with the first 3 sephiroth. The following connection then goes to the heart, which is placed below, making it into the Crown being the pineal gland, the two following sephirah are the left and right amygdala, and the 4th in the middle, Daath, is the heart. This matches the Chabad movement, by quote >The word Chabad is an acronym for Chachmah, Binah, Daas, which means wisdom, understanding, and knowledge. So this practice is a focus on the connection between the amygdala and the heart. It doesn't reach all the way up, but this is a late stage kabbalah movement, so it's not reached there yet, or it's a personal thing to reach. Because, what I found is that walking through the myth from the beginning, and referring the meaning back to the Genesis repeatedly, creates a functional inner energy system which connects all the 4 levels of the body (these do corresponds to the 4 worlds in the tree of life as well). The last bit is hardest to do, because it means giving up all you know, to return to the pineal gland. The Jews have not collectively been able to form a doctrine for this step yet. This would be the main reason they are acting out so violently, the energy isn't connected. However, I believe this can be done. The system has the potential for this. Ok, so what is this cultivated system and its resulted mentality like? It's very different from regular thinking and the perception I'm used to. It feels very "dangerous", like carrying around a running chainsaw with no safety clothing, or balancing blindly on a narrow bar while carrying a pot of boiling water. It feels like any mistake can lead to disaster, and there is no way to know if this will happen, and no way of preventing it, EXCEPT holding on to the religious doctrine and its study and application. However, it's also clear that if this is done with a very strong focus, the energy cultivated is strong enough to actually override any external danger. It's just not something most people can do.
>>7240 >or it's a personal thing to reach. Yupp Also Kabbalah is not exactly Judaism. This is where the problem starts. The mainstream Kabbalah is quite "Modern".
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>>7240 >The Jews have not collectively been able to form a doctrine for this step yet. This would be the main reason they are acting out so violently, the energy isn't connected. >However, I believe this can be done. The system has the potential for this. DONE. I also invited Skinny Bob to take part, because (I had forgotten this) I referred to their research library when I was doing the first kabbalah meditation session, and I figured they may like this stuff: They did. 40 000 of them wanted to take part in activating the inner alchemy of "pain-resistant Jews". The effect was very good. I kept going until my Astra servitor said "the last one has been opened", so no remaining "Jew" or associated being on Earth or around, will now have that last energy connection up to the Crown/Kether missing. It should have the effect of neutralizing the outrageous behavior of them as a group as well.
Metatron, vigilantes and the role of the king Incoherent post incoming... 3... 2... 1.. nuclear downfall So the problem which Illuminati is causing by their black market trade is caused not by it being specifically evil or wrong, it's caused by them breaking the "law" which the system follows. It's a technical issue, like they are writing code in the wrong syntax and causing bugs, or whatever. Enoch was a Jew, when he ascended and became Metatron, he didn't leave the proximity of the Earth, because even so, he still hadn't solved the historical karma which was entangled in the planets, which are old suns created through Babylonian and Aztec human sacrifice rituals. This caused him to become a new kind of sun object for worship, when people of any following age associated him with God and the angels. So they would project their sacrifices at him, but he's more of an atom than an actual visible sun, so the negative energy just started circulating around him. Few people were also able to grasp his method, which was to just become a hermit in the desert in an age when everyone except kings were poor as rats to begin with. An ascetic in an age when everyone would be seen as ascetics from modern views. Plus that he's an original Jew and people today aren't, muslims do recognize his status as an angel of God though. >pic When completely isolated in a state of natural high caused by the removal of all pain, one does not meddle with karmic circumstances like the black market does today. This creates a huge purity difference in both karmic but also complexity level of the mindset. In the past history, the King would have a scepter and an apple. >pic The scepter has the power to control negative energies of the land, which includes vigilantes. Why? Because the king is above the law, he rules by decree, and vigilantes are merely enforcing the law on their own. The apple then represents metatron or God. Today this doesn't work, because the the president is not above the law even if he can rule by executive orders. He also doesn't have a scepter. They thought they had fixed this by spreading the Jesus legend of the saviour of the world, who's also a star/sun. But Jews didn't recognize him, muslims neither, and asia barely cared. So they stubbornly went to war against all of them instead of just realizing that this Jesus the sun character isn't going to do it. All this could have been solved by referring to Enoch/Metatron, but he's Jewish and they don't like Jews... So they solved this with grey alien technology to create the Moloch Sun instead. This was never publicised, they just did it anyway, and legalized abortion to feed it. To get asians on-board with it, they used an obscure buddhist sect known as Vedanta, and adapted it into the Moloch cult, spreading it as ''science". This got everyone into the same "temple". But they ignored that it's a monastic order which demands celibacy, so this created a huge "vigilante effect" of people demanding celibacy and attacking anything with sexual implications in society, so it didn't work as they intended AT ALL. Fucking idiots. Plus that they don't have the scepter. They misunderstood it as being just a channel for the armed forces, and wanted to create some kind of weapon in its place: the US army. With added alien technology for satellite ray guns, mind controlling antennas (5G) and downright alien warships, which are the UFOs we keep seeing. Neither of these can actually replace the King's Scepter, because the scepter also channels the will of the lands, it's not just a container for vigilantism. So the whole fucking system collapsed down back to the Jew Metatron, who happened to be trapped in a dimension behind Ukraine. So they are now forced to treat Ukraine as their "world army", it's the closest representation of the "scepter" because it's closest to the only functioning force: Enoch/Metatron himself. So they are again in the hands of a Jew, which they created this entire democratic child murder system to avoid.
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How to make sense of modern religions So you think religious followers are irrational and don't make sense? That they are hypocrites, liars, etc? Let me give a clear cut explanation for why this is. Catholics/orthodox: They just follow the procedure and won't argue about it, because they don't understand anything. But it works, because they just do the same thing every time, every year. Their saints will make it work anyway. Protestants/evangelicals: Intentional heretics, they are aware that they follow Satan, but they lie to themselves - and others - about it. They deny the saints and the law, and focus instead on vague concepts like "faith" and "God" which no one knows what they entail. Often you find them act in ways contrary to their faith, then they make excuses for it to hide their satanism, but they are neurotic about it which keeps exposing them. Talmudic Jews: Intentional followers of Satan, fully aware of what they are doing, they always lie about their intentions. Just look at what they do, and once you add this missing piece: they are openly trying to be as evil as possible, then it all suddenly makes sense. Nothing more needs to be said. They are the real satanists. Buddhists: Founded by a prince who was so sheltered from the world that learning about aging and illness as an adult, completely broke him. Spent the rest of his life spreading negative nonsense and telling people that suffering exists, as if everyone else wasn't already aware of this. His persistence in this behaviour while being an actual prince, made people think he had to have realized something special that they couldn't grasp. So they came up with the idea that he must be "enlightened", and have since then spent 2000 years trying to figure out what he really meant.
>>8481 Religion is ded. There're just politicians. That's why i study ceremonial magic.
>>8481 Earlier you said buddha had attained tatagatha level. and its pretty much confirmed he was enlightened to some degree.he coined many of the concepts you use.
>>8485 Nah. Tathāgata (Sanskrit: [tɐˈtʰaːɡɐtɐ]) is a Pali and Sanskrit word used in ancient India for a person who has attained the highest religious goal.[1] Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, used it when referring to himself or other past Buddhas in the Pāli Canon. Likewise, in the Mahayana corpus, it is an epithet of Shakyamuni Buddha and the other celestial buddhas. The term is often thought to mean either "one who has thus gone" (tathā-gata), "one who has thus come" (tathā-āgata), or sometimes "one who has thus not gone" (tathā-agata). This is interpreted as signifying that the Tathāgata is beyond all coming and going – beyond all transitory phenomena. There are, however, other interpretations and the precise original meaning of the word is not certain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tath%C4%81gata It doesn't actually mean anything, since it's what he called himself. I've seen him, and it was all stolen energy, his attainment status was external. He's like Jesus, a historical figure who was later used as a vehicle for telling a story and attaching all sorts of myths to. Neither of them was special in themselves, aside from being "perfect for the role". As they say about the stock market, a monkey randomly pressing buttons will do just as well as a professional with high education. Focus on the monkey part here, since even Sun Wukong became a buddha.
>>8486 I'm not sure anyone else even understands the attainment level titles in the same way as me anyway. I'll stick with my terminology for what I originally used them for, disregarding historical facts. Another fun thing to delve into would be the planetary deities. Although Neptune/Poseidon is the same as Yaweh, it is also believed that Yaweh is Uranus. And Uranus in the myth is said to be Saturn. In my opinion Uranus is the negative aspect of the same principle as Saturn's, and associated with Moloch. But Moloch just means King, so that makes Jesus Moloch. The positive aspect would be the barely known Roman deity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caelus This all does not make sense at first glance, until realizing that these celestial objects all represent the same principle in different periods. So Neptune = Yaweh = Uranus = Saturn = Caelus = Moloch = Jesus, which in a sense confirms that Jesus is the son of God, as he is Yaweh.
>>8487 So he was an occultist then? I didn't realize the people you fought referred to the historical people themselves.thats very anticlimactic and sad that they were vampiric leeches like some people ive seen on discord servers.but does seem weird he was right about a lot of things then.theres another theory he was a Grey alien pupetted by some dude(according to youtube) I guess this idea makes me angry.im not sure what to believe. It's very saddening if you are right. I'm either angry or sad. Not sure what to feel I so i will automically assume both.an interesting feeling.
>>8488 People have multiple souls, one main and several assistants. That's what I clinged to for long. But after recent events, I can't anymore. I even checked the Quran because they seem to defend Solomon. But looking closer it's a very djinnish defense of him, saying something to the meaning of "people call him a mere sorcerer and disregard him, but he did channel Allah", which doesn't actually say he was a decent person, any dreg could channel Allah if they used drugs and did the right kind of exercise. The whole thing revolving the "6 buddhas" and these astral cults was very real, and I'm not saying this was some weak occultist. They were insanely powerful. But, it was energy from their religions, they hadn't cultivated it themselves, their bodies were just black corpses on the astral, not able to move at all, and they remained in sitting pose like that. There were also the artifacts that fell off of them, like the crown of Solomon, which was indestructible, and given as proof of representing a position in some angel system. But it was still just that, and external. Someone can hold a position in a system by just channelling it perpetually. Yes, it's pretty boring to find many legendary deities to just be like this, but on the other hand, there are also those who are real and powerful, and decent, like Cronos, the Goetians, and some of the Catholic saints. Luther, Calvin and Zwingli were pretty scumish but they weren't all bad, the "issue" with them is that they were following literal Satan, an actual deity, but not quite what they said they were advocating. It's not that they were "fake" in the sense of not existing, or being weak, they were fake in the sense of not offering any salvation, and just being mediocre, although successful, occultists.
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>>8488 And being right about things is a requirement to become an evil occultist, it's those who know things and still walk that path that can be "successful" in being evil cult leaders. Knowing the truth and being able to pervert it to your own superficial advantage. I just found a parallel Earth where the Jews control literally everything. This seems to be why they believe this is possible. Yes, this posting is ironic and meant to be upsetting to create discussion, but it's also a fact that there is a part of Mossad who work with the astral and they are ok. I don't have a problem with them, that group in particular. I don't mind sharing things with them over telepathy and they aren't doing anything that's harmful to me. Because I guess Jews are the biggest Jew haters also. There is a faction within them who are anti-zionist and working with that angle from within, because they believe the creation of the state of Israel is ruining the prophecy, as it's to be built after the next temple. So they are trying to cause the destruction of current Israel by making it behave in ways that cause so much hate that the world turns on current Israel and ends it. This so the temple can be built first and things are done in the correct order.


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