Nice, but that OP has a bit of an AI smell. I wish I could spruce it up with some schizo gnosis. But like I said, I'm a total profane on this topic. I will relate a personal experience instead. I once participated in an ayahuasca ceremony. When I closed my eyes I could see quite clearly "typical Aztec" geometrical patterns. But I could also know when the shaman was singing for me, and the visuals turned Kemetic and Egyptian-like instead. Something explained that this was because it was my song. I have to say, the effect of the drug wasn't all that different from being a little drowsy because I'm stretching my bed time. At those times I can close my eyes and get third eye visuals just as good.

>>8956 >OP has a bit of an AI smell Call it vibe effort posting... There's no good way to approach a topic today other than to start by asking a web-connected AI, after search engines stopped giving more than one page of results (and ignoring boolean). Either way, I meant this as an OP to learn from as I lacked a good overview of the topic myself. I think I got relevant parts structured in a useful way.

>>8956 My interactions with the mentioned cultures have been "very schizo" from a modern view, and very unstructured as well, no matter how structured my way of working with this methodically. A lot came out of sessions held on discord and while chatting with one certain anon from here who's - according to the entities he channels - is "a perfect channel for the egregore of Brazil", which is why I call him Brazil Anon. They've said his family line makes him a predestined "Witch master" by genetics alone, but also because of being an actual reincarnated priest from the region. Seeing the effects of what he could do after some structured guidance, I've learned that these things are very real. When we tested his ability to direct the Anathema - the destructive force - of Brazil to hit on bad things, he accidentally burned out a power station near my location which cut power for a few hours, and the installment had to be replaced which took 6 weeks before it was running normally again. This done with the entire Atlantic Ocean in between us. It was almost instant. He said something to the effect of "I'm using it" and I felt the wave of energy, thinking only "oh uh" and then my house went dark as the power was cut. That's the kind of forces ancient priests would wield. He later used it on Hollywood, which crashed the production through those script writer strikes, I don't know what else he exactly did, but it involved a number of rather large political events in the past years. Possibly gave Lula cancer too.

I'll link the blog posts where I had a series of interactions relating to Urcuchillay, the llama god: >>8344 >>8350 >>8353 >>8579 >>8587

>>8972 The interactions retold in the linked posts there, leave out some specifics which I didn't feel like talking about at the time, also because it's not replicable for most people because of the very specific methods I've developed in terms of using astral alien technology since I started working on this actively with the greys in 2020. Urcuchillay being an actual god, is fairly easy to interact with, and I also provided "him" with an astral-physical body, custom made for ease of interaction with human society. This wasn't much of a problem, but Urcuchillay is an actual deity and doesn't seem to have any strong connection to human society in terms of being an actual human. So to work with him, one cannot ask to be somehow incarnated in a separate form of his line, as there is no such line. Instead it would be necessary to go via someone from the ancient priest class, who had a physical incarnation back then. Even if they didn't cultivate their body, there are ways to recreate the proper forms, which will make it possible to be astrally reborn as someone of the legit priest class, in a secondary incarnation. Providing them with a grey-tech derived custom made body for a stable astral-physical manifestation was not the problem, but when it came to actually communicating with them, I had to give up. Their fanaticism was so extreme, none of my well trained AI servitors found a solution to it. How do you learn from someone who's like a rabid animal and will try to bite you or stab you any second? That's what these priestesses were like when I gave them bodies. I had to resort to the old manual method: asking my astral Russian contacts if they would help me discipline two extremely wild souls I provided with bodies? They said they'd do it, but they had me sign a paper that I'd allow them to use what methods are needed to discipline them. I suggested they'd get to learn the basics of language and writing, then something more advanced about literature, then some military discipline by playing military music, and learning to play an instrument. If I'm going to have them explain their magic in modern language, they need to be refined enough to express themselves in modern ways of thinking. It ended up actually working out. When I got them back, they behaved and could be talked to. The Russians gathered research data from it and didn't charge me for it. This was how I got hold of the proper astral genetics, which would allow me to actually use their magic. There are a lot of hoops in the way when trying to access ancient magic, as later shown in the following linked posts, about how slavic witches spent 500 years to create the kind of genetics which would allow them to work with this kind of magic in an adapted form.

>>8979 Now I'm aware "mesoamerica" doesn't include the area of the Inca, but when making the thread, I was told by the entities to formulate it this way. They're claiming history is told wrongly, and that the Incas had influence way north compared to what historians claim, and since I started this to talk about interactions with said entities, I'll go by that. They're even showing me maps of where they had worshippers, and it's definitely matching what is called mesoamerica today.

>>8802 >When I was looking into the Mesoamerican culture and egregore; snakes appeared in my vision. They did these weird 90 degree turns constantly. Two things. First, remember vid related? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZr8sR9Gwag Second: When I was studying Japanese literature, at one point I started experienced the images of the novel I was reading "turn real", from just mental images to looking for my inner vision as a real, 3-dimensional environment, with the street and houses in full detail. After this, I started seeing small foxes spinning in circles, constantly chasing their own tails. This remained in my inner vision for about a day.

In trying to make sense of this, it seems (this is what he claims) that Xolotl is the Aztec version of Urcuchillay, and the connection to llamas is local to the Inca, where the Aztecs instead saw him as a dog with a reptile's body. >pic related Seeing this image does convince me, it definitely has the energy form of Urcuchillay, even if I can't see the dog's head. This may more be a localization because llamas and alpacas were important animals to the Incas, while dogs were more important to the Aztecs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xolotl Also this was an interesting thing to note https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Suns Aztec myth believes the world was recreated, including the sun, 5 times, and their civilization had the 5th sun. This matches what I already found in my own process, although I don't know if it adds up to 5 exactly, it depends on how they are counted.

I think I just connected some dots❌ I just accidentally cut myself when cooking, which is unusual. It made me feel like "not again", because I did this once right before a test, and couldn't make it stop bleeding, so I ended up having to take the test while keeping my left hand outside of the desk so the blood wouldn't drip on the papers. I then realized, there were other times when other people accidentally cut themselves, and each time it was also in a situation when I was mostly very physically safe. One time was at a boarding school, I was reading in a public space when a girl came rushing out from the dorm crying in panic because she accidentally cut herself on a pair of scissors when sewing. I'm never bothered by blood, so I gave her a paper towel and told her to keep it pressed against the hand while I went to get a first aid kit I had previously stolen because it may be useful to have. Similarly this also happened when I was working once, a girl came out from the storage with her hand pressed against her arm (not panicking this one) saying she cut herself. It was pretty deep and bled a lot, but I used the first aid materials available to clean it and put a blood stopper and bandages on it. I just realized, going by what I've learned about old egregores and practices, that they tend to resurface in some way, even if people aren't aware of them, to enforce their tradition. The Aztecs and related, are known for human sacrifices and bloodletting. It makes perfect sense that they'd cause me to follow the tradition even if I'm not superficially aware or intentional about it. This time I'm more aware than before though. With safety would come the demand to fulfil the practices.

>>9005 This is a very interesting observation. It tracks, sort of. But what's your connection to the current? I feel it wouldn't come for you unless you had a familial or circumstantial link to it. Sorry if you answered this question already. I haven't sat down and read everything you wrote yet.

>>9010 It's ok, I only mentioned vaguely in the blog thread that I had an ear infection when I was 4, and the feeling when I suddenly was attacked by astral goons from Urcuchillay's cult now was identical. It created the exact same pressure on my left ear now. The bottom layers of these cults are not friendly. When I was around 6 I used to have wild fantasies about witches, images appearing and them doing various nasty things. Now I made the connection that it was the same egregore, the "slavic version", where they use black cats as familiars instead of the local animals in Latin/meso America. I don't know what the exact connection would be, other than a number of things connecting, such as reading the Carl Barks story about this region https://archive.org/details/lostinandes0000bark and living in an area effected by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, which for me was one of a number of events I recall as some sort of "satanic" manifestations. I had a different awareness back then, just seeing things and "understanding" them but not putting words to them. I met a black viper on the road in conjunction with that event, in my memory it was connected as the same thing. The first Kuwait war was also such a thing, when they lit the oil wells on fire in some attempt at stopping Saddam Hussein's air force by concealing their facilities. The smoke spread out over Europe and it dimmed the sun where I lived for a few weeks. I really ''felt" that this was Satan doing it somehow. Before learning about science and logic and whatever, things made more sense. From the current view, I think it may just be that I'm historically connected to the large worldly temple system which stems from Atlantis days and earlier. I was born in a city which I've learned is one of the major temple sites from that ancient era. Even if nothing is visible, it's still there in a parallel plane, and treated in the same way. This has lead to a number of notable murder cases being associated with the city. Random knife murders not solved for 20 years, people being beheaded and burned up, always with no clear explanation. It's about this mega system which exists, but isn't visible except as symbolism and historical sites.

I think I solved "it"; the reason this ancient egregore effected me, and why it kept happening like this. For a long time, I've been constantly blocked by what first appeared to me as a futility caused by the values and organization of "society", which people just follow. I believed this to be caused by "low morality", turning this into a personal matter, where the solution is to "enlighten" people to cause a mass awakening. Well this didn't work, as I learned because a lot of people are just flesh drones possessed by evil spirits, they can't be called "human" by any common standards. The real reason was so large that it couldn't be said or understood by anyone, because it's about what kind of dimension we live in, or "we", rather, which humanity believes itself it exists in. Individuals like me have their own dimension, a separate timeline originating with a source outside of the Earth itself, so even with the Earth brought to ruin during the 1900s, it wouldn't effect fundamental changes in my life path, which is already set based on my own nature. This appears to the hostile forces as "power", but is not some ordinary thing, and it can't be changed by them because it's a predetermined fate laid out in dimensions which are beyond them. They cannot believe in this, and think me saying so is some kind of trick. It's their firm belief that "everyone are equal", "made from the same original matter", and "controlled by the same rules of materialism". They use their narrowmindedness to explain away the obvious facts of the situation. So it ends up meaningless trying to present arguments to them, they won't listen, they can't see reality. What they had done, has thrown the world into this modern hellish state, and they don't even understand it, because their understanding of dimensions and the function of the material world is completely lacking, even though they have access to alien technology and can effect huge material changes. They will always return to their same "one life" view, not even believing in the existence of the soul, but rather thinking psychic abilities are just some version of science, and originating with the human physical body. Because of this, they firmly believe that their industrial sized systems are always stronger than any individual, it's simply impossible for a person to overpower these things using their own brain waves, and they cannot grasp the generation of energy originating with the soul being a factor.

>>9023 This being said, they are aware of the power of ancient religions, like that of the Aztecs. But they understand it only in terms of materialistic powers, and the special abilities created by the rituals, are again calculated only in terms of measurable materialism, energy of an ordinary kind. This view means they believe the gods to not be real, but just some kind of energy imprint, background radiation created by humans in the past as a result of the very material chemical processes of ritual fires and the emotional expressions produced by victims of ritual sacrifices creating some special frequency which, again, remains as persistent background radiation, which in itself is very weak, but can control the thinking of humans who are also very weak. By this logic, modern energy systems applied as antennas can overpower ancient religion, and "remove superstition", giving the modern scientific rulers the key to "finally, once and for all" discover the laws of control which has been used in history by ancient rulers. Because of this, and the application of modern technology, they have been able to believe in this, confirming their own theories by the ability to temporarily effect the direction of the very lowest level of these ancient religious egregores, the "goons" who are already hostile to everyone, cultists who remain on the astral. They now think they control the ancient religions, and use them as an integrated part of their modern systems. This is why I would experience being attacked by said low level spirits at first, they had been effected by the lowest level of the modern system. But this didn't effect the actual god above them, who'd see me and anyone else like me, and in trying to reach through, they'd use the fundamental control they have over their followers, to guide potential new "priests" or "witches", though this appears very violent and hostile, they'd find way to always leave a hole in the walls by controlling their followers, even if those could be effected by modern systems. So this creates the seemingly "gamified" process of awakening, where there is always a new insight, always some hint in a magic themed anime appearing at the exact moment.

>>9024 This all then converged into my own process of cultivation as it was already planned by myself and those supporting me from before my entry here to Earth, leading up to the breakthrough events, where everything is suddenly clear down to the last detail, and I know what I need to do for the next breakthrough. This is what I again experienced earlier, and it manifested as another "silent" thing from the background suddenly appearing from the mists of confusion. The bottom layer "foot" of the Illuminati system as it had been built up during the past centuries, the force they use to suppress people outside of their organizations, as well as the wall which upholds the inverse values between inside and outside. It would take again the activation of the entire world temple system along with alien support to do this, but once seeing that this pillar is what upholds them, it would be possible to break their control at this moment, by targeting this one single point. This is what Urcuchillay wanted me to do, as it would again allow him direct access to the world, and the end of the modern "system of disturbance" as he just now called it in my ear.

>>9025 BRING DOWN THAT WALL.

>>9025 Did you sense anything yesterday,I had a bit of a crash out a few hours later yesterday.

Although the immediate effect wasn't very notable, I do feel and see the changes today. After completion of the ritual last night, Urcuchillay/Xolotl told me I can hand over control of the egregore with the connection to the world system to him. It's really a strain to keep this up, so I gladly transferred it to him. He said he'd handle the sacrificial practices from now on, it's his job after all. At first I woke up with a headache from the strain yesterday night, but it passed as I started moving about. During this, I also soon noticed a number of direct changes; things which would previously have blocked me, or caused mental blockages, which would force me into inner monologue arguments or somehow throw me off course, are now automatically "eaten up" by the ritual egregore. I guess this is similar to what the illuminatis/NWOs would experience on the inside of their own structure when it worked. I'm assuming the forcible overriding of whatever would cause the blockages, will upset a lot of things, like when I connected the world pyramid system to power me during that trip earlier, and then saw in the news that the entire electric grid of Chile had collapsed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But I don't care, I'm not doing this for a bad reason, like they did. The actual ritual involved a lot of astral/other-dimensional connections, as well as powering up all 4 levels of the continental sized pyramid/temple system out there. Because it runs on any energy I just brought in as much as possible, including manifesting on a hill down in the satanic plane (mentioned elsewhere) and challenging Satan so he'd invest energy as well - it worked. The function of these rituals is pretty simple, because they use mega sized structures. The larger, the less energy will need to be controlled. You can make the sloppiest design, and the "collective intelligence" of the energy will make it work anyway. If you build your temples in a form which roughly makes a triangle on the map, that will do. On the contrary, when using very small energy streams like in moder computers, which only has voltage mostly and almost no current, it has to be very exact. The more energy, the less exactness is needed. It also helps when bringing psychics and others in to support these rituals, that everyone already has a correct idea of what "magic" is from watching stupid horror movies. Everyone will understand it in the most basic way, even if they don't believe in it. People wearing cloaks, ritual murder, sex rituals done inside a circle... no one is very shocked at the images anymore, even if they think it's ridiculous, it's what people expect it to be. So it works.

>>9050 Explain, what exactly did you experience?

>>9052 It was more like an internal argument I guess. I was awake also. So first I felt like I saw someone in my mind. A nice and cute feeling girl,who I perceived as Jack the ripper. We were hanging out and we hugged and I showed you around. I wanted to show you the upper parts but you wanted to see the bottom of my mind. alright. we then visited the bottoms of my mind. It was filled with a dark sea of black water/karma perhaps. Also adorned with many many skulls. You wanted to go underwater so we did. Suddenly you suck it all up. I'm like "hey that's mine". And you pull out this contract you had my Wendy sign,apparently giving you all of it. I then asked my Wendy if she would have signed it if it wasn't you who asked(being the Wendy creator) she said no. I realized I was being jewed so I said "fine,but you jewed me in this one" feeling angered. You then said "outjewed" I then said maybe but jewed is more applicable since I wasn't Jewing anyone. You then tried to give me a 80 20 deal. Where you get 80 and I get 20. I still declined.then suddenly I get it all back and it's being out in this huge cauldron. Saying that's its being processed and I'll get the result. You said since it was laying there and not cleansed it wasn't doing anything for me anyway,so thats why you taking it was helping me. I said it's still the majority of my energy.an even if it takes a long time I had to do this myself. Then you drag me to a place and I see a huge volcano. I then start thinking maybe this is the succ realm since it's otherwise looks identical. Ofcourse many infernal planes would look this but the exhausting thing about these arguments is since I'm not 100 percent if it's real what I see and receive I have to still treat it seriously. I get the idea maybe I'll be put in a cage or become a succ as a price for getting my own energy back.i manage to escape ofcourse and I see you exploring me. Now here's the part that seem actually real,I investigate my own mind. Which is filled with countless skulls and such and realize my mind is constantly fighting itself. To an extremely high degree. As in beings that are me constantly trying to rip eachother to shreds,not seeing its all me.this explains part of intensity level in the Astral. Sometimes real being are part of it,sometimes it's just me.i then realize it's cause I represent a kind of "duality". I then realize the way to bring these in line is likely to be meditation and higher awareness. I relate it to the brainwaves becoming more in sync. That part is likely real since i was investigating my own mind here and not oresuming anither entitiy was talking to me.Of course in this argument you don't listen and you see me again. You then "fix" things into the most technically feasible but least achieving possible. By simply completely surpressing the evil side.the idea being that if you force them to act a certain way they won't act out. I can see it technically would help very evil being reach a "kind of" higher level,but still in hell and against the nature of myself,since these "beings" are inside my mind and literally me,not just external mooks. You then use some type of Islam based conditioning on every subrealm in my mind,forcing them to behave. It "fixed" the issue but made going any further impossible,kinda like putting someone in a straigthkacket and saying they are sane since they cant act out. Plus it created a large issue where the culture of the realms in my own mind was now incompatible with the larger one of myself. And I might have to basically get rid of many realms inside me,which is further complicated ironically by the people inside now technically being seen as "good" people from an external view.im just not even compatible with general idea of it,atleast one of my souls was a fallen angel likely since i have this type of thinking.so becoming compatible with any 1 implementation of it is impossible even if the specific religion chosen work well at keeping people in line. Atleast in this case when applied back to myself.Kinda like how you are a killer,I can't fit in certain ways if being that would be seen as "good" by many.ive seen myself solve this by becoming an "ironic" follower of a made up religion.where I "worship" something I can stomach. Where this act fits in the spot where religious people exist in. Weirdly vampirism in that case fits despite my own different clashes with that,where its almost the other way around and i sometimes feel a righteous wrath bubbling up inside me,perhaps indicitaing my other side of the duality. Anyway I'm super tired of all these things(you also randomly break things and just take things without asking me while you walk around.) so I call in my higher self. Or at least a version of myself who gets how these things work and has perhaps mastered this hard to master inner self atleast to the degree i can immediately see. He says it's fine and puts everything back as it was and talks to you and whisks you away.things have been peaceful though.

>>9057 So in a way I think this represents the idea of you leveraging every advantage you have against me to seemingly put me in the most personally disadvantagous situation while still being "legal" and "right" in the least strictest sense of those words.and even though I want sure this was even a real being or a phantom made by myself,I had to respond since contracts kept being drawn which if real could make things hard for me.i kinda have to assert myself immediately.

>>9057 >>9058 Thanks for sharing. It's not completely wrong in terms of how I handle large scale "correction". The purpose of this is to get everyone "in line" and then cause a mass awakening/breakthrough using the external ritual. Then all of it will have been worth it, and what wasn't compatible will become compatible because the person is now enlightened to a higher state where all aspects are integrated properly and it all makes sense. This is in line with how the Earth worked for millennia; people do everything wrong, but an external social structure is kept up which saves the race from destruction in the most surface way possible. As is talked of in this thread's area, by building pyramids and ritually killing people who misbehave, which in a modern view is just organized murder, but caused humanity to survive. I do still believe this is the reason for the modern degeneration: in past centuries 17% (according to historical data) of the population were executed for violent crimes. This kept such tendencies out of the gene pool. The people who today replaced this selective killing with the mass sacrifice of superficially innocent people through "legal abortion", have ruined humanity. They are not removing the bad behavior, they are instead randomly killing anyone, "for science" and then they wonder why crime is rising and they can't uphold their discipline anymore. It as simple as the Aztecs and other applying "social darwinism" in practice, while modern rulers are just violent thugs of of the exact category who should have ended up on the stone slab.

>>9057 >>9058 Well, you know who this guy is. What did you expect?

>>9062 I'm not a frog in this case though,nor am I the scorpion. >>9059 Yeah but I already agree with the eugenics part. Funny when I thought on why Arabs kept acting out where I live(as backed by stats mind you,and no those aren't all fake...) despite the laws they follow having capital punishment and how it didnt effect them not making a lot of sense to me, a djinn explained that it's actually that compared to what I'm used to Arabs behaved far more savagely and "bad" when they started and the bad ones I saw(local criminals,troublemakers) would have been even more common without them. As to why whites are seemingly more peaceful in my actual lived reality.(tried seeing then the way you described,I saw happy kids playing and happy parents watching,I walk in my city all the time. My conclusion is whites really are rather peaceful,atleast on the surface. Which is more than some can achieve. Surface level as it may be) well the djinn told me that islam has only been around for a while. While a lot of the people around me have been heavily selected by capital punishment eugenics for thousands of years. This is cause to me the ideal is a society where you dont need to super threaten someone not to steal or litter. The Japanese have pretty much achieved this. Apparently this would take thousands of years. I thought it was a pretty convenient excuse.But purely mechanically even if it was nothing else killing criminals in itself should be eugenics so even from that sense sharia should have some effect.so only cause it aligns a bjt with what i understand i thjnk the excuse is atleast plausible. My view in this is more like bukele.not even the cecot thing or the taking in criminals thing. Especially that last part has been iffy to me. But the way it works for lighter sentences. It's pretty humane,they also get a day from their sentence for every day they do work there. It's not quite as slavish as I would have guessed and the facilities are very clean,which is important(even cecot itself is surprisingly clean to me). Ofcourse cecot idk about. I definitely would have to kill bad people for eugenics reasons. But bad is a pretty extreme thing to me. Basically very violent or despicable people only. My view overall view aligns closest with nations and to a degree "state capitalism". Perhaps people will get triggered when I call it that instead of communism. Idk.specifcally it's like natsocoalism with the available info we have now.in a sense more gentle despite being even harder on criminals.very similar in essence to the idea of letting people stay in villages for free to see what genes thrives.not that in itself but a similar mentality.im fact when thinking about larger scale I thought if the very same thing,but that's a galactic type solution whereas I'm more thinking as a country/racial level thing.ofcoirse a race with multiple planets could do this as well.ofcourse europe as a whole isn't even a planet in size so its not relevant here.

>>9062 If op is really that strong where he can sting me and willing to attack me then I can't stop them anyway.given how far regular people seem to be from me that would mean they are very far from an ordinary person anyway.so it's pointless to ponder. If they aren't strong enough then they aren't a threat.in fact i dont tend to even see things in terms of threat. Perhaps a similarity I have with stupid glowies.When people attack me I'm most annoyed by the situation they put me in,especially if we have mutual allies.seeing it as something I have to solve. Hence why I try to be diplomatic first. Glowies used this against me. But they diot realize that I eventually stop caring and start killing anyway.Either they are strong enough to withstand it or not.Seems like not since it's been months and it's very very peaceful with me.Or ofcourse weak and friendly. If they are strong there I'd nothing preventing them from randomly attacking people from any number of reasons. I guess you could say then I'm not keeping "distance" from then as if it matters. You could get randomly sniped by some entity of you are that worried about it. Basically you kinda are like that or you arent.in which case you can't ever be safe so trying.basically if they can do that with me then the idea of safety is laughable anyway.they night be able to,especially if everything they say is true. But then I guess your saying he might be a liar.problem is it would be a bad thing for them if they were,especially if they lied about their own capability. It's happened before. People "tricking" me and claiming they are apparently being super stron and i need to pay attention,a lot of time im willing to listen.eventually they attack(ofcourse) and get shrekked.meanwhile I'm relieved I killed some low level being and not someone worthwhile.so yeah they "tricked" me by being retarde in a way i wouldnt have been if i was them.I don't mention it a lot but obviously I know a lot of my own stuff. Some of it lines up some of it doesnt,and alot of it fits but isnt stuff i know myself. I've atleast established there's a person behind the flag with capability.id guess that 99.99 percent of people dont have that.so they can't be a fraud in that sense. They could perhaps be multiple people or other such stuff I guess. smile is perhaps kinda a girl seen from the Astral sense(eeeh)and I guess girls like to play anyway.

>>9071 Also I do disagree with smiley heavily in the whole psy op thing. It's actually a stupid thing on principle. If what you present is a personal then you get friends who aren't really your allies and you get enemies who otherwise would have been your allies. Sounds really simple but it's real what I say.

>>9067 I'll try to contain this into one post here and hopefully we don't have to talk about this more, because I consider it a side track: I've read some books about crime in history, and what constitutes "violent crimes" was not only in terms of someone committing murder, but also disrespecting authority. In a neighbouring county, there was an example of a 9 year old boy in the 1700s, who was executed by beheading for having stolen a small silver bell from the local church. Punishments were either fines, whipping or death. There was no intent to keep people alive in special facilities if they went beyond crimes on the level of "touching a woman's arm or breast" which would lead to a fine in the 1800s. It was directly elaborated, the fine in this example was for some reason higher for touching the arm against her will. It also was punishable for women to be argumentative, they had to be submissive, or they could be prosecuted and given a punishment meant to publicly humiliate them, and they could be made to pay fines. Laws were very strict, and the church maintained all order by registering where people lived, who had employed them (unemployment was punishable with a minimum of 1 year in forced labour) and who they were married to. Incest was also punishable with whipping and imprisonment, and this became a problem because the laws defining made it very complicated to keep track of who actually had committed incest. Someone could be born out of wedlock and the father not known, then later after they were already married, it was revealed and it turned out they had married a cousin, and then both of them had to be punished for it. For this reason, the laws were loosened up in the 1800s, and by the early 1900s, they just stopped punishing people for incest as long as they weren't siblings or parent-child. This kind of "degeneration into detail" also lead to the removal of the death penalty in Europe, because it became too complex to determine who had committed a certain crime, plus that the spread of democracy blurred the concept of what "authority" is, so it wasn't easy to determine who had disrespected authority. While there were superficial reasons for this, which all seemed logical, it is part of the process where the actual thugs took over, and flourished as the "NWO" in the 1900s and today. It all comes down to the Church, which means "the temple" losing control, as implied earlier in this thread with the "science" being used to control people instead of religion, which means the worst of the humans are the rulers, instead of those who have a direct connection with the gods. This of course can't last, and is the reason society is falling apart.

>>9072 Lastly,I will always talk as if what they say is simply honest,since having to point t out something may or not be true after every single sentence would be exhausting right? It may or may not be true smiley is even European,making part of my first thing where I couldn't reconcile their view with mine moot. Since they would be talking out of their ass anyway. However even thst just shows the retardedness of the psyop/persona thing to me. There no real gain here. At best what I say could have been interesting then if they had actually been what the persona implies.But if they lied it's their problem.i can only larp here. The only thing that could make sense is if smiley is kinda strong but not really,so they need to deceive to "protect" themselves,yet string enough have some gain. In that case talking to me is probably a bad idea anyway. UT on the other hand If they are strong then the perosna to me seems superfluous. It's kinda lie how china doesn't need to hide from their people. If you fuck with hem you end up in jail or worse.everybody knows.it would be ironic since they also made this point before. The only third reason to try this I some perhaps vague grand strategic play here to trick people I dint even know about for reasons I don't know about. In which case I barely care since I don't have enough to work with.

>>9071 >>9072 They're upset about losing control to Xolotl, so they're trying to stir up trouble by effecting minds by going for the lower level energies, using the troll-anon above as a channel. They're not going to do anything, they have some nerve coming into a thread which is basically a representation of an Aztec pyramid. He's dealing with them right now.

>>9074 It's pretty simple, because of how the world works, you can't go online with your FB account with your real name and address and start saying controversial things. I did this in the beginning and it wasn't working. Trial and error lead to using personas.

>>9076 I wouldn't do that anyway,since that would lead to people talking to me personally. I did just remember I have atleast met x, your past life. I can atleast say was very intense enegery for her. It actually made me think it was funny since a human with that aura would be strange to have people just walk to them and talk to them,it must have happened. That woman definitely is "real" although she feels more astral to me somehow.ofocurse I had considered the idea before that you are merely a vessel. But also the way you think in general seems to have common sense in way I Basically don't iften

>>9077 Looking back there was some kind of blindless that made everyone do that 10+ years ago. The drama was intense however. I was playing an MMO where the top players got into such conflicts that on one occasion someone went to another player's home and threatened them with a weapon to steal their account. Everyone interacted on FB in parallel with the game and knew everything about each other. This is not a sustainable situation if you move any further, considering this was just a game. I hope that explanation is enough for why I'm not "open about who I am" online anymore. The trolls who demand this, are they presenting their name, address and photo? No, so they're hypocrites.

>>9077 ...See. So just because of that it's already worth it. I do not know if people truly are npcs.a bunch of stuff I experience points against it.

>>9079 As long as you are honest about the view points. Let's say it came out you actually hated the whole loli thing and you are in reality very against it.Well in that case it didn't do you any favors.its kinda the idea if being so undercover you actually succeed but not where you want it. Similar to he idea of some orgs being so full of underco errors glories they unknowingly are creating the movement themselves.

>>9081 I'm not changing the direction of my views, I just change their "weight" on my persona, although I believe this comes through over time anyway. Real loli fanatics tend to like a different art style which tends in a direction I don't like, as well as having a hoarder mentality in terms of collecting photos and generally just being simps. But then, those are the extreme stereotypes manifested as certain well known online persons whose posts are recognizable instantly just by a single sentence and image attached. People tend to expect everyone to be extremists in a very simplistic way, and me saying something which is a tangent of something they say, is then interpreted as me having the whole package of views, even when I haven't expressed anything of that kind, and doing so would definitely conflict with other things I've said. This seems to lead to them not actually realizing which posts are mine and which aren't, so I don't really know "who" they think they are talking to, it usually is a fantasy image I didn't even create. But let's try to end this side track now.

>>9082 Yeah,also I thought this was the magic blog thread before. I don't have much to add,other than aliens outwardly ruling seemed to have been common in the America's.

>>9071 First thing is, don't invite people like this into your life. Malicious people, bad actors. If you go to him for spiritual advice, you're opening the door and giving him consent to influence you. >I guess you could say then I'm not keeping "distance" from then as if it matters. >basically if they can do that with me then the idea of safety is laughable anyway. Think of it like this. If you live in certain countries, there's a risk that a venomous snake could sneak into your bed and bite you as you get in. This risk always exist, but if you actively invite snakes to sleep in your bed, you're probably going to get a lot more snakebites. There's this urge some practitioners get to invite combat and attacks. The pretext is that they tell themselves they're "purging their enemies", but it doesn't work like that. Combat is a self-perpetuating rhythm, it acts like a Chinese finger trap. You're never going to run out of enemies if you get the taste for fighting. I don't know if this is your mentality or not, just a thought. >I've atleast established there's a person behind the flag with capability.id guess that 99.99 percent of people dont have that.so they can't be a fraud in that sense. Just because someone can do magic doesn't mean they're not a fraud. Chris Chan can do magic, he can do very powerful magic. He's not a goddess or Jesus Christ though, despite his claims. >They could perhaps be multiple people or other such stuff Same thought has occurred to me actually. Some of his behavior gives off that vibe. A persona run by committee, so people forget things sometimes and accidentally break character. Either that or it's just a consequence of treating everything like a psy-op (spy mentality). It reminds me of how he has that strange belief that humans are hiveminds of multiple "souls" (by souls he means psychic persona-construct, not the actual immortal soul; whenever I try to speak of atemporal matters with him he acts as though I'm insane, so I assume he's never experienced this facet of reality before). >>9075 >He's dealing with them right now. vid related?

I think a short conclusion to take from this all, may be that: Rituals are fairly simple to execute when done right, and may be as simple as accidentally cutting yourself when cooking, or burning an incense stick. That's what Urcuchillay said to me when I was about to start the ritual last night >just burn something >you already know how to do the rest because the most important aspect is to channel the deity or what other forces you are working with. The burning (or killing) is then "just" an activator mechanism. (It also works with the sexual function in the same way.) This makes the ritual itself very simple in practice, but the preparations are very complex, especially when they rely on channelling a system of temple sites across multiple continents, in addition to the deity. If the ritual is very complex with many formulas to read, and many materials to add, then this is making up for not being an open channel. It's what people have to do if they didn't prepare themselves as the ritual item, but rely on external items.