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Jumpchain General Thread #64 - Legend of Galactic Jumpchain Edition Jumper 10/02/2025 (Thu) 16:58:19 No. 131236
A thread for general jumpchain discussion and chatting. Please make sure to spoiler explicit images and keep hornyposting to a minimum. >Old thread: >>129163 >Horny Thread: >>728 >Thread Archive: >>1331
Sex is for hating guys apparently.
I want to offer the Galactic Senate as a location in my jump but i don't know how useful that would be. Perhaps as a item that forces all politicians of a planet to only work there?
>>131218 nta, but why not use a custom cheat in Generic Xianxia or Murim?
In the Pokemon Anime jump, a pokemon with an ability that it shouldn't have would come from the Extraordinary Trait quirk or the Mythical Achievement quirk?
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So if I do the Aria of Sorrow scenario to become THE MASTER OF CASTLEVANIA do you think I could toggle the “eternal night” thing the castle does? Vampire or no, I would like to be able to have some sunshine on my lands at least once in a while.
>>131242 The castle bends to your will, so probably.
>>131239 Let's ignore whether or not there should be a jump for young jedi or why such a jump would offer a political building to begin with. But a building that all politicians have to work in (which is not true of how the galactic senate building works in Star Wars itself) instantly destroys all governments.
>>131239 That feels like it goes beyond the realm of things a padawan focused jump would offer.
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>>131236 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
>>131246 >Rubbish to one such as I, devoid of all worldly wants
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>>131237 Learn from bonobos how to be a better person then.
What do you think could be some neat ideas for a jump to make a or a powerset to give to a big tiddy goth waifu companion? My initial ideas where either trying to come up with something for the tarot cards beyond the future telling or maybe making her Raven's sister in Teen Titans though i'm not sold on either idea.
>>131244 He keeps doing this, adding shit in there that doesn't actually have a basis in Star Wars because he just wants an excuse to include it in the jump.
>>131249 South park the fractured butt whole has goth powers, iirc.
>>131249 Pathfinder. There are tons of cultures and tons of classes and options that would be perfect for a goth waifu. Though i do wonder which of the races and monsters have the best tiddy
>>131249 "big tiddy goth waifu" isn't exactly a personality, so I dunno.
>>131251 >>131252 Thank ya both. >>131253 Sardonic, sultry, salacious and sarcastic. I actually don't anything in mind for her yet beyond her look since I prefer to work backwards I guess with the powers/perks informing a companions personality and the like.
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Any suggestions for spooky Jumps that could probably be finished between now and Halloween?
>>131241 probably depends on the ability and how it boosts the pokemon. Like a Wonderguard Slaking is way different than a Shell Armor Squirtle.
>>131216 >non-hentai >2+ waifus with qualities of spoiler >has no (recent?) jump Pretty sure Saki is about the only one people here are remotely aware of that meets all of those requirements. Just about every other one on the list misses at least one of those 3 qualifiers... mostly because 2's a surprisingly high bar to hit without voiding on 1 and a lot of the settings that look like they might qualify really only have 1 waifu to meet variety quotas.
>>131255 Make a lewd fnaf parody jump.
>>131257 Does Saki have a longer name to search it by? It's coming up with loads of different things
>>131255 Assuming that you already somewhat know the settings, or have enough free time to do a bit of binging? >Vigil: The Longest Night >Veil of Darkness >MediEvil >Blood Omen if you just focus the jump on the forst game >Castlevania: Lords of Shadow >Dance in the Vampire Bund Could all be small enough Jumps to pull off.
>>131254 >Sardonic, sultry, salacious and sarcastic Yeah that's a witch in a nutshell bro!
>>131248 I will personally destroy any society that resembles bonobo habits. Billions WILL die.
>>131265 There's most likely a third game being planned though.
>>131256 Was thinking about Tinted Lens Volcarona.
>>131255 A Silent Hill jump that isn't based on the dogshit movies would be great.
>>131255 Hauntii
>>131255 Does Night of Revenge have a story? If so, then that.
>>131270 Okay so, NoR isn't my jam, but you are being based there.
Fixed technopathy pricing >https://8chan.moe/jumpchain/res/129163.html#q131208 >out of curiosity, would magic boosting perks enhance the magical transformation of Golden Gail? Your guess is as good as mine here. No real info on that Would magic boosting perks also boost your jumper if he were to pick the power of Shazam in kingdom come?
>>131267 that seems perfectly in line with Extraordinary Trait which includes this line >You might be capable of bypassing immunities to your type
>>131255 Nightmare Reaper.
How much bureaucracy is in your Jumper's empire?
>>131275 The bureaucracy expands to meet the expanding needs of the bureaucracy. It doesn't matter that I have infinite manpower in the form of Attendants. They are generating infinite^2 paperwork. Jumper has no idea what has become of their Empire's bureaucracy, and they do not want to know.
>>131275 it mostly exists in the background handled through extensive use of high level AI.
>>131273 Nothing says fun like harming creatures with things they are immune to. Like burning the fire elemental or poisoning the snake god of poison.
>>131264 Human societies resembly the Japanese Macaque more. >lives in a matriarchy >males are disposable, they get kicked out and have to wageslave in another troupe for the privilege of ever getting pussy >most don't get anyway >in fact rogue macaques who live on the outskirts of macaque society come during mating season and have more success in reproducing than the wageys of macaque society >roles in macaque society are either inherited or you get there through vicious fighting >different macaque troupes have differents skillsets since they're learned behaviours passed down within the troupe
>>131267 >Tinted Lens Volcarona. That's not even that broken (still powerful) so it's certainly fine with that perk Volcarona most popular abilities in the "almost any ability" format have always been desolate land and magic guard. (and sheer force I think)
>>131237 Sex is only for reproduction. All sex that doesn't result in a baby should be banned.
>>131255 The first two Alien movies.
>>131280 All of these things are basically just India and to some extent China, which is extremely funny because they vastly overrepresent the human race numerically. The Longhouse is forever, barring the brief periods where patriarchal societies rise for a time and rape them silly before falling.
>>131268 you expect him to beat multiple silent hills and make a jump for them in less than a month...?
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>>131272 Jump looks good to go to me. Great work! I'm going to have to import my Castlevania into the The Cabin of Horrors here, The House of Mystery from Justice League Dark, and the Tower of Fate from DC Occult just to have the ultimate mindfuck ofa magical home. >>131277 >trusting clankers in your empire >ever NGMI
Okay, just reposting the EDF 5+6 jump in the new thread in case anyone missed it. I consider it fine to put it into the drive now, but feel free to leave any additional feedback.
>>131286 Anyone who hasn't played these games is less than human.
>>131275 Not a lot. I kinda let all the different worlds govern themselves then show up to give orders on occassion
>>131288 Why does An Ordinary Human Ally dislike frogs so much? Sure, they look nothing like we do, but just because something looks differant from us doesn't mean that it's worthy of disdain!
>>131285 The Longhouse is a western concept.
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>>131289 I mean, okay. I thought we were friends but I see how it is.
>>131291 It's just a key character trait to make them more interesting, though it does feel weird with the amount of Frog-themed thread titles we had recently. Okay, in all seriousness, it's a reference to the allied Colonist from EDF: World Brothers, who also explicitly hates frogs.
>>131289 I sentence you to TTGO! reruns in Brazil.
>>131294 Fair. I was just playing off the "it's totally an ordinary human, and certainly not a giant frog thing" joke.
I can't wait for Atlyss to be finished so we can get a jump for it
>>131297 I'm still pissed that there's no bulge slider.
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>>131288 Looks good & I appreciate the explanation for EDF 6 so I won’t have to watch my favorite merchant man give a recap of the setting again & again (even if it’s funny). Time to throw the Dodonpachi setting into the mix for more chaos
>>131280 >matriarchy >implying
>>131286 And the latest one?
>>131299 >second pic I hope this is post or pre BS2 Grimm, otherwise, Homura might not be safe at all.
Anyone know where I can get the ability to create anything provided I have enough mana for it? Theres a cute little manga about a isekaied witch girl who gets that power and she spends it every morning to make a fruit that permanently boosts her mana by a small amount which adds up over time.
>>131255 Black Souls :^)
>>131268 Even if it's technically possible, that just feels like the kind of Jump that shouldn't be rushed, both in terms of how much content there is to cover and how high the expectations would be.
>>131255 >>131304 L Depth lolmao 2 make a good horrorgame though
>>131239 >I want to offer the Galactic Senate as a location in my jump but i don't know how useful that would be. Weren't you doing a jump about being a youngling? What does a Senate building has to do with being a youngling? What story have you read were the Jedi go >Here, youngling, you've been chosen to be a senator as a child.
>>131298 Now now, a dev can only get so based. Plus Atlyss was supposed to be moderately more sfw than Kisseff's usual stuff. Sacrifice must be made. Just be glad we have the sliders we do, and that there is a game at all about being a customizable shortstacked furry gremlin that's also a solid ORPG
>>131301 idk I heard people didn't like it for some reason
You get a chain and a loving mom companion
>>131309 Apparently it's woke?
>>131311 You say it like that phrase means anything anymore.
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>>131310 Sounds good to me!
>>131303 we got some isekai with custom abilities including the generic isekai. But I think the best place for that would probably be Generic Xianxia, since abusing a cheat like that for cultivation seems like something I could genuinely see happening.
>>131310 I still want someone to make this jump just for the companion
>>131310 Thanks Psycho, this sounds fun.
>>131303 Arifureta in a scenario, I think.
>>131287 Hey, my combo house is almost the same! Except I also have the world ship from the galacta jump thrown into the mix
>>131310 What's the first jump? Is it your our our choice? Also, is the Mom companion an OC from teh first jump, a random mommy, our mother from the first jump, or what? Specifics would be nice.
>>131319 She's a loving mom that was bestowed upon you and is your biological mom in the first jump. The first jump is just whatever you want it to be
>>131320 >The first jump is just whatever you want it to be If only i was good at coming up with a good way to start a chain
>>131288 Do Air Raiders still have the capacity to call in air strikes / vehicles post jump? Or even in jump for that matter? It doesn't seem like they have that capacity once EDF forces are wiped out / don't exist in future jumps. I bring this up because without the ability to continue calling in strikes and vehicles they're basically just (much) weaker Rangers.
>>131289 What about the one where the girl is suicidal and she learns at the end that she should reach out for someone, but her whole backstory is ignoring a girl talking about how she wants to kill herself and then making her do it by spreading a rumor.
>>131321 Do this since it's spooky time
>>131310 Momcest never really was a thing for me, despite having an incest fetish. Probably because my mom was overbearing as hell and not that hot. But a chain is better than no chain, maybe I'll like this one more.
>>131325 Alright, I'll give you a build in a bit. Will take a while, since I know next to nothing about Creepy Pasta
>>131323 In-Jump, as long as the EDF is still alive and kicking, you will have access to airstrikes. In the circumstances where they are not around, you are a bit out of luck, but that's canonical by the actual games, so its not a huge deal. Post-Jump, you do need to get someone to fire the airstrikes for you, unless you use the Drone Strikes item (as they represent the canonical way Air Raiders got around not having air support) or you get one of the other items specifically to summon vehicles or the Hooligan Cannon.
>>131312 You play as a woman that mercs various enemies most of who are either completely unfairly positioned and unavoidable making backtracking a pain or you just get swarmed and stabbed to death and can't do anything against it. The story is about a woman who considers marriage to be murder n shiiet because daddy abused her as a child and she basically hallucinates everything and is mentally ill, the monsters she merced were actually people at her wedding and she doesn't get punished for it.
Did someone watch Shaolin Soccer? I was wondering if that movie could be made into a jump.
>>131330 I think we do have a jump for it, and yes it would if only because american steroid drugs can make people into demons.
>>131331 >>131331 I found it, it is a WIP no one finished.
>>131330 Is it because you want to add the White House as an item to a jump?
>>131333 In fact, i did add the white house to a jump.
>>131330 That could be a fun one. >>131331 We don't. You thinking of Kung Fu Hustle?
>>131330 >Did someone watch Shaolin Soccer? Like five times.
>>131272 Could we use 300 cp from superpowers section to buy Cabin? I ask as Cabin gives immense magic talent so it could be interpreted as superpower as well.
>>131332 If you've talking about the WIP that SJ-chan made it's because she's dead.
>>131338 Damn.
Space kills you by doing nothing. Space kills billions by changing nothing.
>>131330 Make a jump for Shaolin Girl, the Japanese spiritual sequel about a Shaolin girl doing lacrosse. It's even got a shared actor from Kung Fu Hustle, was produced by Stephen Chow and turns into a lovely letter to old school Kung Fu movies in the middle of the movie.
>>131341 I can't even find the movie on YIFY. I'm not going to watch that.
>>131340 Not true at all, space kills you by sucking your fluids and gasses out then simultaneously freezing and boiling you
>>131343 the ultimate succ
If I ever got a chain I would hunt down and torment whoever the fuck it was that invented dual fast food drive through lanes.
>>131343 Space does nothing. It's your weak flesh that decides boils and freezes when taken away from their cradle.
>>131272 It might be autism speaking, but would perks could for that "your powers can grow" perk?
>>131343 You can actually survive a shorter unprotected space walk if you do it right (like 10-15 seconds). Take a bunch of deep breaths, then exhale as much as you can. You have about a dozen seconds until you pass out to be out in space. Probably should keep your mouth closed though, a guy who was exposed to vacuum felt his saliva boil off his tongue. Also stuff like radiation and/or burns depending on how close you are to the sun.
>>131347 I think your stroke is speaking rather than autism
>>131351 It might. Swap "could" for "count." This is turboautism, but I am compelled to ask.
Does cultivation cause autism? Or mental imparement?
>>131353 You could argue it that since every cultivation technique is invented under chinese culture, they in no way, shape or form incentivizes or develop critical thinking. The dao might have many paths but no one said they would have signs.
>>131353 No, autists are just those most attracted to cultivation.
>>131310 ....I mean, I'll take it, but that's gonna be real awkward. Especially since my ma would be rather disturbed to be leaving my siblings and dad behind for decades to millennia. ...unless you mean the mom pictured but she thinks I'm her kid, that's a very different scen- >>131320 Ah, that's good. Would start in AoBS then. Mental Models are pretty good as far as low-risk high-reward early-chain power sets. Or Omamori Himari. Omamori Himari is always good for starting a chain.
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>>131310 How's it going Psycho?
>>131325 >>131327 >>131310 >reading this document >no option to have cryptid parentage isntead of being a full cryptid Man, making this build to ensure I have a Cryptid Mommy while still being mostly human is hard
>>131357 Good. I'm not gonna stall on this Fate Stay Night thing like I did with Into The Pit
>>131310 Fine, but as long as I can pick the family and mother and depending on what I pick, I might take a sister or cousin with us. I do not want my own. I want new people.
What are some interesting martial arts movies? I want to see something with a lot of kung fu techniques.
>>131362 Every Jackie Chan movie ever.
>>131362 Old school or modern?
>>131363 I like his old movies, but i want less ordinary movies and more martial arts with chi type of movies
>>131364 It can be old.
>>131366 Are you alright with more operatic/shapes focused movies? Also by chi do you need there to be explicit powers at play or would light wuxia style Wire Fu be alright?
>>131367 I'm alright with that. Explicit powers are best.
>>131368 Alright give me a minute and i'll have a look through my collection for suggestions.
>>131357 I thought this was posted by Ricrod.
>>131365 >i want less ordinary movies and more martial arts with chi type of movies Then Jet Li's Kung Fu Cult Master is old and cheesy fun. Although for Jumpchain purposes I'd want a Jump of the OG novel, The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber.
>>131372 >Kung Fu Cult Master I actually watched this movie a long time ago. It is quite good.
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>>131310 Modern Teisou Gyakuten.
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>>131362 Enter the Dragon
>>131368 Okay so this is a list of the ones with explicit powers beyond wuxia stuff: >Dragon Tiger Gate >Kung Fu Jungle >Guyver 1 + 2 though they're more sci-fi tokusatsu than pure Kung Fu. >Jet Li the One >The sorcerers curse >Kung Pow enter the fist >Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon >Big trouble little china >Shadow master General recommendations: >Sister Street Fighter Trilogy >Ip Man quadrilogy >In the line of duty 4 >Special ID >Flashpoint >Raging Fire >SPL >SPL 2 >Paradox >Iron Monkey >Dragon AKA Wu Xia >Beyond Skyline >Arahan >The Grandmaster >Romeo Must Die >Once Upon a time in China series >Wing Chun >Yes Madam >Alien Vs Ninja >Versus >One percent warrior >Baby assassins trilogy >US Seals 2 >Man of Tai Chi >Cold Harvest >Bloodsport series (2 is the best in terms of martial arts, 1 has the best atmosphere) >Ninja and Ninja Shadow of a tear >Blood and Bone >Accident Man Duology >Drive >Broken Fist >The Raid Duology >Millionaires express >Eastern Condors >The prodigal son >Ong Bak 1&2
[Expand Post]>The Protector/TYG >Chocolate >Meratau >Headshot >Born to fight (og and remake) >Game of death 2/Tower of death (try to find the UK release of it.) >Legend of fighter >True Legend >36 chambers trilogy >Killers invincible >Martial Club >Legendary Weapons of China >8 diagrams pole fighter >Shaolin Vs lama >Heroes of the east >Riki-Oh >Ninja Terminator I didn't include any Jackie Chan since you didn't want any recs for him.
>>131311 It isn't. /v/ is just spamming that term because they're retarded SEAnigs and Indians.
>>131378 Cool it with the racism, Argentinian
>>131310 Neat.
>>131310 Can I be adopted?
>>131328 I think even in the future they're still alive but they say something about the infrastructure being damaged or not having the supplies/ammo to shoot. It's been a while since I've played the game.
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>>131382 No. That's gay.
>>131383 I have way more I could recommend on-top of that, I own over 500 martial arts movies though I haven't watched them all.
>>131386 Go on dude. Show off to your heart's content.
>>131320 This is going to go swimmingly in jumps that have you be descended from eldritch horrors or specific canon characters.
>>131377 Great recommendations!
>>131310 Can I pick the first jump the mom is from?
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>>125347 Jump 5: Fate Oasis Of Fantasy Origin: Holy Person Era and location: Iran- 700CE Perks: >An Age of Gods (Free) >Crusader (Free) >Divine Harlot (Free) >Arabian Kniiiiiights- (50) >The Seat of the Pharaoh (100) >Saint of the Shield (200) Items: >Weapon For A Holy War (Free) >Tarasque (100) >Eternal Flower (100) >Mesektet (200) Companions: >Sphinx Awlad x4 (100) >Nitocris (50) >Scheherazade (50) >Queen Of Sheba (50) —--------- [Egypt- 2200BCE] Vengance has finally come to Pharaoh Nitocris, and she couldn't be more elated. The sound of pleading, desperate traitors had been drowned by the sound of running water. She watched their lifeless bodies now floating beneath the flooding chamber. And it pleased her greatly to know the last thing they heard was her cursing and ridiculing them. “The hubris…” She said to one in particular, as she started to make her way towards her seat “Thinking I would reward them with a lavish banquet, or gold, or even…” her eyes briefly turned to disgust “hmph. They even though they could have me, just because they made me their puppet Pharaoh” She took a seat, and contemplated her work. Not a single one had survived. All of them drowned by the Nile. The water started to touch her ankles. And soon, she too would join them. “Brothers… I have finally avenged you…” She called sadly, hoping her words could reach them in the field of reeds. “And I… I'm sorry. I wasn't a worthy Pharaoh…” she closed her eyes. And waited to be taken by Nilen. But that moment would never come. The sound of running water stopped, and was replaced by an intense sizzling. She opened her eyes. Flying in the center of the chamber, above the now steaming water, was a golden hawk. Bearing an august light as bright as the sun and emanating an aura of divinity from it's feathers “M-m-master Ra?” She asked reverently. Her hands were shaking, and her vision was obstructed by the steam. Yet she could see Him as clear as day. “I cannot let you throw away the life of Pharaoh so carelessly.” The Sun spoke to her “Much less when I have a duty to give you”
[Expand Post] “A vision has come to me. One promising great opportunity for the lands of Egypt. Yet the One able to make this vision into reality unravels fate with every step He takes. So I don't know when He will arrive, but the child of the Foreign Sun will come. Nitocris, you must find him. Ally yourself with him. Or find a way to control him. I care not.” He flapped his wings, and suddenly Nitocris was enveloped in holy wrappings. “These wrappings will preserve and maintain you in deep slumber. Once he arrives they will transport you towards him and unravel themselves.” Sleep started to settle on Nitocris. “You wanted to be a worthy Pharaoh? Then don't disappoint me.” Was the last thing the Pharaoh heard before falling into a millenia old slumber —--------------------------------------- [940BCE - Near Israel] The Queen of Sheba was lost. A sandstorm had separated her from her entourage, and she was riding aimlessly while holding her dromedary for dear life. This sandstorm is unnatural. It formed too suddenly, and it threw her off too precisely, as if guided by something. She tried to use her clairvoyance, but it was as obscured by the sand as her eyes. This was definitely the work of a mage or a spirit, the queen concluded. As she wandered aimlessly, the form of a small building started to appear in the distance. “Finally, shelter!” The Queen sighed and rushed her dromedary towards it. As she got closer, the small building became clearer. It looked like a temple of some kind, runned down and half sunk into the sand. But beggars can't be choosers, this will be serviceable enough to shelter her from the raging winds. Breathing a sigh of relief as she entered, the queen started to shake off the sand from the garments and fur before settling down beside her dromedary in the corner of the temple that looked like it wouldn't fall down on her. “Aaah, and we were so close to Israel…” she mused while petting her tired mount “I swear someone must have cursed me. There's no business trip that doesn't go without misfortune lately!” There was nothing to do but contemplate the fading murals that adorned the walls of the temple. The Queen could recognize a certain Egyptian vibe on them. But she's sure they already passed Egypt a long time ago. “I swear if we have been going in circles…” Her furred ears suddenly picked a distinct lack of raging sandstorms from the outside. “Well, time to look for the others” She stretched and rose from the the ground with a groan “I hope they're okay” She hopped on the back of her camel as she left the building. She surveyed her surroundings, but there was nothing but sand and rocks as far as her eyes could see. Except… Yes. Far into the distance, she can distinguish two figures standing in the middle of the desert. A tall man and a girl with hair as purple as hers. “Maybe they also got caught in the sandstorm?” —----------------------------- [700CE - near Iran) “I am Pharaoh Nitocris, reincarnation of Horus and the Sky itself. Rejoice, for you've been deemed worthy of becoming my ally!” She stated imperiously I simply looked at the girl that appeared out of nowhere with confusion “…Are you… alright? There's something I can help you with?” “I'll allow you too. Consider this a great honor, For you'll be assisting a living god in her quest! You may raise your hand to the sky and rejoice.” I raise my hand and place it on her forehead instead “Maybe you're having a heatstroke…” She lets out a squeal and jumps back, almost falling on her back “D-disrespectful! P-placing your hand on a living god so brazenly… disrespectful!” Her face flushed harder than before, and she raised her staff me with her staff, almost treating it like a barrier between her and me. “I, uh, am sorry?” At least I know there's nothing affecting her mental faculties She straightened up, and tried to compose herself. Coughing a few times to clear her throat “I-I shall be gracious enough to forgive you. But don't do that again without a direct order!” She tried to look intimidating as she said that. But it only came out as adorable “I'm looking for someone called the— uh… ‘Child of The Foreign Sun’. Do you know who that is?” she asked “Hmmmm… Never heard about him” Nitocris shoulders slumped at my answer “But I'm currently traveling the continent. I could help you look for him if you want. Knowing my track record of stumbling on interesting people we'll probably find your man in no time” “Thank you, that would be really helpf— I mean” She cleared her throat again “I’ll graciously accept your assistance.” I'll better keep an eye on her. A lone girl with that kind of attitude can make a lot of people mad, and willing to act on that anger. Also… she extremely beautiful. I can't let a lost girl as adorable as her wander alone and defenseless. If I could barely control myself in front of a goddess like her, then what of others? Yes, its only right that I accompany her. I also wouldn't mind the eye treasure. Then a third voice made its appearance “Hello, friends. Did you also get caught up in the sandstorm?” Asked a woman riding towards us on a camel. She was wearing a red robe with golden patterns, on top her head two furred ears and a pair of horns. She is unnaturally beautiful, as if carved by the goddess of beauty. She was only matched by Nitocris in bodily perfection. And, much like Nitocris, her outfit left little to the imagination. What are the chances that the first two people I meet are also two of the most beautiful women I have ever seen? If these are the standards on this land, I fear I might have a heart attack. —---------------- I spent seven days traveling alongside the two lost princesses. Along the way we discovered that I was the ‘Child of The Foreign Sun’ Nitocris was looking for. We deduced it after a short theological conversation. However she didn't know what to do after finding me, so we put that on the backburner and concentrated on helping The Queen Of Sheba who still refuses share her name get back to her land. We arrived at the city of Ctesiphon, the crown jewel of the Sasanian Empire, to restock on supplies and rest on something that wasn't the back of a camel. My two royal companions certainly where enthusiastic on enjoying the amenities of civilization once more. But, as we walked through the streets of the city, I saw her. Seated on a palanquin carried by four servants. With Hair like a starless night, two precious emeralds in her eyes, curves that could make a goddess of fertility mad with envy, a body wrapped in supple, sun-kissed skin, all crowned by a face that emanated calm and serenity. In that woman, I found a whole new definition of beauty. I was starting to lose the restraint in my urges. Having a year long dry spell and spending a weeks in the company of two of the most beautiful women I've ever seen certainly didn't help. Nitocris bonked my head with her staff. “You're drooling, my ally…” she said. Pouting. ‘Hmmph! Lusting after some woman when he has a living goddess literally beside him!’ thought Nitocris indignantly. She turned her head toward the object of her ally’s enthrallment ‘Even if that woman has a bosom clearly blessed by Hathor. And hips as curvaceous as a mother goddess. A-and her face… o-oh my, her face is—’ She stopped her UnPharaoh train of thought ‘E-even if she's certainly beautiful, he shouldn't be looking at her like the last urn of water in the desert!’ “My ally, we should go to another street. There are too many people on this one for my liking” proposed Nitocris “He’s already riding towards her” giggled The Queen. Nitocris turned around suddenly. And indeed there he was, kneeling in front of the woman and spewing out compliments. How disrespectful! (1/2)
>>131392 >kneeling in front of the woman Gay
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>>131392 Scheherazade combed her hair in front of the mirror, while absent mindedly thinking about the proposition He had made to her. She still remembers the first time they met. He kneeled down on the street in front of her and declared his undying love to her right then and there. Afterwards, he was chastised by one of his companions, Nitocris, she would later find. The peculiar group of strangers quickly became renowned in the city. When a foul monster started terrorizing the borders of the nation, that man not only defeated it, but tammed it in a single day. When an army of half-bulls threatened to conquer the city, that man fealerly faced off against them in his lonesome. And grinded them to dust. His actions gained him the moniker of the Golden Hero. For he was a hero like in the legends of old. And the storyteller couldn't deny it that her heart beat for him. So many times she has been enthralled by the stories of sagacious heroes and valiant kings. And now a man like that has appeared before her in the flesh. There was no way she wouldn't fall for someone like that. And yet, duty demanded she choose another. King Shahryar has to be stopped. If her plan goes right, the madness of the king can be abated. Her father will no longer have to spill innocent blood. But for that, she has to become the king’s bride. She sighed in resignation. Of what could have been. Suddenly the door of her room slammed open. “Shahryar has taken a new bride!” came screaming her sister “What? But, the king had already killed every unmarried woman in the city. Don't tell me he has started taking the wives of other men.” “Remember that hunk that proposed to you!? The king took a liking to one of his companions, the furry eared one, and since they aren't married he declared her his new wife!” “Oh, no…” a pang of guilt hit the storytellers heart “I-i should have warned them tha-” “The king is dead!” came screaming one of her guards “The Golden Hero has gone mad and killed him!” “W-what? He's dead?” All of this is coming too suddenly! “Scheherazade!” called the Golden Hero from her window. None of them noticed when he got there. “I've come for you!” The guard pushed her sister aside and unsheathed his sword. The Hero simply flicked a small stone, hitting him on the head and dropping him unconscious. “Look, I'm sorry for killing the king of your nation. But he was really asking for it. I know this might not be the best time to ask you this, but would you be willing to become my companion? ” “I-i-i-i-i… I-I-I…” Everything was happening too suddenly. The poor storyteller was struggling to make sense of the whole situation. “Go for it sis!” Encouraged her sister “It's not every day a hunk like that comes knocking at your door! Or well, window.” “I… sure. Yeah!” She doesn't have a duty to fulfill now. There's no reason she shouldn't follow her heart freely, right? The hero suddenly swept her off her feet and protectively cradled her in his arms “If someone asks, I knocked you out. You weren't complicit in this.” He told her sister. She simply gave a thumbs up. He then turned around and with a single jump, they sailed high into the sky, and away from the city. ‘I’m sorry, father.’ She thought while gazing back at the royal palace ‘But, I've found the king I want to serve.’
[Expand Post]—--------------------- And so, the Golden Hero wandered aimlessly alongside the three princesses. Who would later be known as the the three jewels of the east. They traveled to far off Egypt, and there they unearthed the legendary ship of the sun, Masektet. Alongside a litter of small sphinxes that guarded it. On it, they sailed the skies to the cheedar forest, where they found the Eternal Flower. And there, after a near death experience, the Hero presented his heart bare and unrestrained to his companions. It is said that the thunderous exertions of the hero, and the love filled wailing of the three jewels, resounded throughout the forest for 100 nights. To the nest of the legendary Simurgh they went. To marvel at one of the most holy of beings. And beyond still. Their many exploits became engrained in the cultures of the region. Thanks in no small part to the recountings of Scheherazade, who left seven copies behind before sailing over the horizon. To lands beyond this one.
>>131387 I'll keep it brief since i'm bush-whacked and I can't be bothered getting out of bed again to get back to my dvd collection: >Crime Hunter >Police Story series >Rush Hour 1 & 2 >Shanghai Noon & Shanghai Knights >The Young Master >Undisputed 2, 3 and 4 >Forbidden Kingdom >Drunken Master >John Wick quadrology >Ballarina >Everything Everywhere All At Once >Kill Bill dulogy >Die Fighting >Avengement >The Grandmaster >Only The Strong >Invisible Target >Dragons Forever >Never back down 3; Never surrender >Universal Soldier Regeneration >Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning >Best of the Best >Righting Wrongs >Exit the Dragon, Enter the Tiger >The Scorpion King >The Paper Tigers >King of Beggars >Police Story 3 SuperCop >The Man Who Feels No Pain >Sakra >Roaring Fire >Yakuza Apocalypse >Mr. Nice Guy >Red Wolf >Here comes the boom >Ballerina >King of Kickboxers >The man from Hong Kong >City of Darkness >A Heroic Fight >I am what I am 1 & 2 >Superfights >Once Upon a time in Shaghai >Breathing Fire >Red Pirate >Ninja In the Dragons Den
[Expand Post]>Chinese Stuntman >Plan B: Fuck Plan A >New Killers in Town >Mirage Man >Diablo >Extreme Heist/Wicked Game >Good Morning Sleeping Tiger 1 & 2 >New big boss/Legend of the Wolf >Outlaw Brothers (Do note that they do kill real chickens in the final fight scene, it's gross) >American Shaolin >Sun Dragon >Soul Brothers of Kung Fu >Mystery of Chess Boxing >Shaolin Vs Wutang >Wutang & Ninja >Shaolin & Wutang >Hitman in the Hand of Buddha >Blood Heat/Muscle Heat >Dance of the Drunken Mants >Legend of the Drunken Master >King of Triads >Life after >The legend and hag of Shaolin >Fatal Contact >Kuro Obi >Unlucky Stars >Death Grip >Contour >Die Fighting This was les brief than I planned it to be.
For those who know anima I'm considering selling to the Imperium informations about Theresia's status, and how Erebus wouldn't interfere, so they can go there, recover the agents, soul weapon and things left there while killing the Dragon and stealing Chronopia, I'm just worried they would kill Dagoon's child, Is it too evil to do that?
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Why does Ric, the largest sensei, not simply suplex his students?
>>131310 >pic Oh damn, I just realized with Gene's jump I can pick her up now
>>131399 have you seen Akemi?
>>131401 Have you seen Ric?
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>>131401 Tiger suplex. What a fucking sexy design
>>131403 I started warming up to it after seeing the chibi animations.
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Finally passed the 30th jump in my new chain, and hit 300 years old as well.
>>131405 Good for you anon, genuinely, a chain that makes it past 5 is a rare occurrence for me these days.
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What are your favorite, non body-mod adjacent, cyoa you like to use during or alongside a chain? I'm a big fan of Fighting Autism.
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>>131408 I've used the Village cyoa to help design my nations or towns.
>>131289 Anyone who plays and enjoys silent Hill is either a subhuman or a child.
The power supply from my pc just stopped working, which means the jump that i was finishing today will probably be finished next week. Fuck
>>131353 The only people that exist in Xianxia worlds are chinese people. Considering their culture of horrific absolutism(attempted), and vicious rebellions from would-be absolutists. Throw in the ticking time bomb that is face culture, and it's not surprising that the people most mentally impaired and hyper focused act the way they do, and come to dominate the human race in those settings.
>D&D/Pathfinder >Soul Eater >Disgaea >Redo Of Healer >Sailor Moon (Sword​ ​of​ ​the​ ​Silver​ ​Crystal) >Samurai Jack (Enchanted Weapon) Anywhere else I can grab some powers or items effective against those who are evil?
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>>131408 Witch CYOA, Arcane Focus, Dungeon City Book Wizard, Clothes Make The Man, and Fridge Market. I'm fond of single page CYOAs that offer very specific powers Also, I guess Magic Item Shop, Solitude, and The Village, but that's because I like using Witch Awakening and I use all of those in tandem with it
>>131413 While not stated in the jump that's pretty much an Ultra's power in the Ultraman franchise provided they aren't evil.
>>131413 Silmarillion has holy stuff that burns evil. Should also be some in the other Tolkien stuff.
>>131408 >Each Freakish Skill costs 1 Freakish Point >You start with 2 Freakish Points >You can take up to 2 Banes to get more Freakish Points >But you can't buy more than 2 Freakish Skills So what's the point of taking Banes? Did I miss another use for FP?
>>131417 It's a modded version of the original cyoa. In the original version you had half the starting points and no freakish points I think.
>>131413 Exalted
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>>131417 Here's the original. Looks like someone just didn't want to bother with using a meta cyoa to get more points like an normal person
>>131419 Once of my favorite things about Holy in Exalted isn't that it's anti-evil, it's that it's someone going "Fuck that guy in particular" and everything Holy beating the shit of them harder for it.
>>131356 Arpeggio of the blue steel jump when anon? >>131371 Why? >>131399 My students get affection and sex.
>>131409 Great taste anon, DSA was a great maker, I really hope he's living his life in Japland happy
>>131411 Tomi anon?
>>131422 >My students get... sex Just stick it in and then suplex them.
>>131422 Don't we already have an Arpeggion of Blue Steel jump?
>>131424 Actually i'm Spazz
>>131427 Gross.
>>131254 >>131252 >>131249 Dear Titty person After thinking about it some, I went ahead and asked /pgg/ which player race from PF 1e would have the biggest titty They told me Merfolk as well as the planetouched races (Aasimar, Tieflings, and Geniekin) would have the biggest tiddy, with Undines having the largest by average. Do with this what you will
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>>131402 Italians needs their mushrooms to avoid getting mogged by their partner.
>>131407 My last chain I was over 1000, so I don't feel that old. >>131406 Ganbatte anon, I believe in you.
>>131414 >Witch CYOA jump wen
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I have a question for folks. Specifically, regarding Evangelion. So I have the perk from Sekiro that makes it so when you consume an entity, you can gain/usurp their power, along with perks from Dark Souls/Demon Souls for soul consumption. The plan is to be a human with the Hybrid perk and an S2 engine, wait until all the Angels are dead, then chow down on both Lilith and Rei before immediately fucking off into space. The idea being that in doing so, it completely fucks over SEELE, NERV/Gendo, and just about everyone else who would have wanted Instrumentality to happen. My questions are as follows: >Would consuming Lilith and her soul get me an AT field? What effects should be expected? >As I am a human taking the Hybrid perk and not an Angel taking the Hybrid perk, would that be kosher by the jump's restriction on merging Adam and Lilith? >Should I vaporize the Adam Embryo just to play it safe? I pay the tithe in the currency of the land.

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>>131408 Urban Unease, Built in the Heavens, The Space Marine Cyoa, The Horseman's Kingdom
>>131434 Which is The Horseman's Kingdom again?
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Quick, what's your Jumper's color alignment? Does it differ from yours? If so, how?
>>131436 Center green, flirting with the others based on the local metaphysics and goals No
>>131415 Huh, neat. That's good to know. Thank you. >>131416 Forgot about that somehow. Thank you too. >>131419 That one charm solars can use, right? It is awesome. You have my thanks. I wonder how it works against those that already overcame their weakness to holy.
>>131436 White/Blue/Black
>>131408 Gotta design a good family.
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>>131436 White/Red/Green
>>131436 White/Green/Red probably.
>sending a shadowy, imperceptible ninja to secretly gather information on your enemy and their plans VS >sending a clearly visible but completely invincible guy to just follow them around at all times without them being able to do anything about it
>>131436 Link jumper is either pure white with the occasional WG, or defaults to WG with the occasional W and G. Mind control jumper is probably either pure U or RB.
>>131443 >>>Not destroying your enemies with overwhelming force and speed before they can even react
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>>131436 This is mine now. Last time I checked I was like solid red/green. Holy fuck, I really got btfo'd by real life.
>>131443 >>131445 >not relying on totally inscrutable plans that inevitably force your enemies to yield
>>131446 Actually, no I was blue/black/red before. I remembered wrong.
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>>131436 White/blue hieromancy all the way. Law, clear and unbending like ice! A frozen world where nothing happens save what I have reviewed and authorized!
>>131446 where'd you get that from?
>>131449 >genericanon >uses no generic mana symbols >is a God patterned after Theros gods (is an enchantment) >doesn't have the devotion mechanic >also isn't Legendary What even is this?
>>131430 What a pair of good friends :)
>>131440 Mom:Evelyn Aunt:Rosanne Older sister: Faith Younger Sisters: Iris, Quinn
>>131436 Blue primary, Black/White secondary. Jumper is me but less restricted by mortal concerns, so White would have a higher priority for me while Black would have a higher priority for my jumper.
>>131455 I'd probably go with the same mom/aunt choice, though maybe swapped.
If anyone wants planeswalker cards for this mtg talk, throw me some images and what you want on your card and I'll try to make something for you. >>131436 Green, black, and black/green. Jumper is a demon aligned, but most of his actual magic is elementalism. most wind manipulation, occasionally water, but he's also capable of fire and earth.
>>131436 Colorless for Eldrazi/Artifact spam with 28-post (Cloudpost/Glimmerpost/Trenchpost/Vesuva/Thespian's Stage/Planar Nexus/Echoing Deeps). Ignore everything else needed to make it work, this is a Colorless build. Hard countered by Blood Moon.
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>>131442 >>131451 oh hey I was right
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>>131443 The slab WILL be returned. >>131436 Centre white. >But- He is no more bound to color alignment than the natives of the Blind Eternities are, and has too much contempt for the consequences of the other colors to align with them. Yes, even Blue. He exerts a framework of law and order that sanctions preemptive strikes, logical thought and unity through growth while simultaneously condemning any of those means as ends unto themselves. If he wanted to he cozcolorless, but he admires the tenets of White enough to champion it. >Does it differ from yours? Yeah at this point I’m basically Blue/Green/Black but very good at bluffing to be White. >>131408 In the Wake of the Dawn, The Building of No Consequence, Inherited Bloodlines, Thousand Faced Hero, Galactic Conquistador and Gloria. Fortunately, my chosen CYOA bodymod can incarnate an avatar of itself into them all. >>131398 By the standards of the setting, people do more evil things every day and just to survive. >>131353 Nah, being Chinese does that. >>131264 Another joins the angry mob against MGE…
>>131449 So. What are you actually trying to accomplish with this card? Because like the anon said, you're running the basic format of a Theros god, but you're not matching the effect of it. Mind you, the effect really just boils down to 'x thing, and also sometimes a creature'. This, meanwhile, feels a lot like something that's intended to just not let people play the game. Stagnation. You could maybe force someone to deck out if you have the right creatures, but honestly even that is iffy.
>>131436 White/Green last I checked with emphasis on White, but still decent Red and Blue energy, just a deficit of Black.
>>131462 I'm trying to capture my jumper's themes in card form. He's a god because that's what people would primarily associate with him, due to the extreme prominence of his church which powers the entire world through prayer, with praying to him eight hours a day being the most common job on worlds he conquers. The effect forces your opponent to sit there though like 40 agonizing, mindless turns where nothing happens except that they draw a card then discard a card, until finally the game is mercifully allowed to end when they lose. It is the least fun possible in a game of Magic, which encapsulates what it is like to spend time around my jumper and how he treats his enemies: extreme boredom in prison instead of hurting them in any real way.
>>131436 Probably Blue/Black l at heart; despite often using powers that look or act White, Green, or Red.
>>131464 Is he actually a god tho? >Draw then discard You don't have that written down, you have skip draw step. The game literally can't end like that without very specific creatures. You probably want something like this. >Legendary Enchantment Creature - God or >Legendary Creature - Human and >When CARDNAME enters the battlefield return all creatures from graveyards and from exile to the battlefield under their owners control. >Players can't cast spells, take damage, or activate the abilities of creatures. Creatures and planeswalkers have Indestructible. Whenever an opponent would draw a card, they also discard a card. sub out that 'an opponent' for another 'a player' if you want the possibility of losing yourself due to deck out, otherwise leave it be.
>>131466 He's nearly every creature type by now. A listing for every alt form he's got would take up the entire card. But if you grabbed some rando off the street and asked "What is the Jumper Between Worlds?" they're most likely to answer "A god." The reason it's not legendary is because the website couldn't fit that onto the line and I didn't care enough to try a different website. >You don't have that written down, you have skip draw step. Yes. "YOU skip YOUR draw step." As in the controller of the GenericAnon permanent and no one else. Meaning that you (almost certainly) can't lose the game due to an empty library, while your opponent plays normally: drawing a card each turn until they run out.
>>131464 There are over 70 different God cards. Why the fuck are you badly apeing Theros Gods?
>>131325 >>131321 >>131310 Well, I put this off, but I'm still obligated to give the build I promised. Here you go, Psycho. >Mommy Chainbutt >Jump1: Generic Creepypasta >Origin: Cultist >Perks (-1300 CP) And Then a Skeleton Popped Out (100) Creature of Habit (free) Affable (free) Those Faithful Few (100) Serial Killer (100) Compiler of Rituals (200) Unsecure. Uncontained. Unprotected (300) Non-Euclidean Mind (300) Membership (200) >Organization (+500 Stipend, -100 CP) Headquarters (free) Special Asset (free) Priest Training (100) Protection Training (free) Archivists (free) Religious Order (free) Recognized Religion (100) Ritual Chamber (100) Library (100) Shell Companies and Products (200) >Items (-150 CP) Cult Documents (free) Mask (50) Abandoned Building (100) >Companions (-150 CP) Cult (50) Chainbutt Mom: Cryptid (-100) -Wendussy Mommy build: Monstrous Body, Enhanced Senses, Claws, Spook, Disruption Field, Skinwalker, Genius Loci. >Drawbacks (+700 CP) Monster: Inhuman Eyes and strange breath/smell (0) Original Recipe (0) Wierdness Magnet (+100) Abandoned By Jumpchan (+200) Men In Black (+200) Always Watches, No Eyes (+200) >CP Spent: 1700/1700 Jumper was born to strange circumstances, for his mother was not a normal being. Born of ritual to a strange "god" of the woods, Jumper has lived his life as the scion of a particular cult. As he grew older, and expectations were made of him, he demanded the cultists teach him what they knew of the world, and bring him books and videos and what have you. It became apparent that there were many forces in the world that simply didn't belong, who's existance defiled the natural world his mother represented. So Jumper went to whip his mother's cult into shape, making them into more than just a faith, but a force of good, engaging in evnironmental philanthropy, as well as hunting down the unnatural and supernatural forces that would defile the planet and threaten his mother. Afterall, a good son protects his parents when he comes of age, and even he himself started to assist in the field and deal with the forces of evil himself. His current adventure has taken him to an abandoned amusement part. Ostensibly, his people bought it from Disney for a "Rewilding and restoration project", though first he himself has to purge whatever supernatural element is infesting its halls. And one he finishes, he;s going to return home and have hot steamy wendussy sex with his mother I feel like there's some sort of urban fantasy series that has a similar plot (minus the incest?), but I can't think of it. There, I've fulfilled my end of the bargain, late as it was.
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>>131436 White, though I have some Blue and Green leanings, and when it comes to the magic I’d study all five colors.
>>131458 put Questing Beast on Zenos
It's so weird to finally be using Cyberpunk 2077 in a proper chain. Jump 2 after Beyond Rubies if anyone's curious.
>>131472 Sneaking Ruby tech into some high tech new chrome you're selling would be a devious way to gain a lot of control.
>>131468 Maybe he REALLY wants to job to Elspeth?
>>131473 Specially since I also picked up Jumper Industries.
>>131469 Thanks for the build....?
>>131435 I used it when thinking of my Overlord base
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>>131467 What the average citizen would say is irrelevant. And I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is the most boringly toxic card I've ever seen. >>131471 I don't understand the question?
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>>131478 Eh, I’ve seen worse.
>>131478 >this is the most boringly toxic card I've ever seen. Thank you. That's what I was going for.
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>>131472 But at least you got it done which is based.
>>131476 What's the elipses and question mark for? You gave teh chainbutt, and when I couldn't pick a Jump 1 you gave me one. So what's the deal?
>>131485 I dunno, usually you only do that when you made the jump in question
>>131486 >usually you only do that when you made the jump in question >Usually you What do you mean by that? Who do you think I am? Are you okay?
>>131487 Its the abstract you
>>131488 The fuck are you talking about?
>>131489 Similar to when someone says "you just don't do that" they generally mean "nobody does that". That sense of the word "you"
>>131490 People make builds for chainbutts all the time though.
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>>131483 this reminded me of bio-meat nectar, where they had to use a a bunch of liquid nitro to freeze a bunch of tiny little monsters in order to escape but it also froze their helicopter
>>131394 1d4 = 3 >Fables Part 1 >Monster Hunter >Shantae >Valkyria Chronicles
>>131491 Im saying "usually you (people in general, particularly jumpmakers) don't give thanks for builds when you didn't make the jump in question"
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Other than Worm, are there any perks that allow me to optimize and shrink down tech?
>>131479 Now see, those are not actually that bad? That's a heavy cost planeswalker, and while it's +2 effect is very strong, it isn't phrased in such a way that the -1/-1 effect stacks, so more than one is irrelevant. The 0 is actually the worst thing on the card, as it's way too good since it translates into 'can't be blocked and also lifelink' for everything you have. One creature would be more reasonable, or at -3. Maybe -1 or -2 if you swapped Shadow out for Fear. The -8 is actually less useful than the 0 imo, though it's strong in it's own right. BSM is heavily oppressive, and maybe the madness is a bit cheap, but the upkeep is at least some attempt at balance. Though 'each players' becomes much worse in any format with more than one player. At the very least, it's not indestructible. Still better than 'you don't get to play the game'.
>>131494 So you made a chainbutt post...without expecting any chainbutt builds or repsonses... Why?
>>131497 nta, but he just feels weird thanking you for the build because he didn't make the jump in question. He's not calling out the build being posted but his own response.
>>131497 Yeah what that guy said
>>131482 Weird flex, but okay. Forgot the pt
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I had a dream I was on a chain. Somehow I managed to get Sukuna to chill the fuck out and run a food cart with me. It was a /very/ successful one too since we apparently had a brand of spicy teriyaki sauce called "The special grade sauce" with Sukuna as the brand mascot. Also this was apparently like a very short time after the Shibuya incident too since Mahito came back as a yandere woman for me for some reason Yuji chased her off going "How the fuck are you back Mahito it's only been a fucking month!!". The last thing I remembered before waking up was just Kenjaku trying to rip the skullcap off on of my companions. God why are all my dreams these days like shitposts?
>>131495 Didn't the cyberpunk generic have something for that?
>>131495 There's one in 40k Horus Heresy in iirc The Builder perk tree and another in Supergod.
>>131502 Shitpost Within, Shitpost Without!
>>131495 Supergod has a perk to make building sized tech fit into a palm size iirc
Is there ever any reason given why some Formorians in Slaine are just, people with green eyes?
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>>131492 cute little monsters What bioengineered horrors have your jumpers made?
Is Hestia the most low-maintenance goddess you could bind to your house?
>>131508 As part of their pact with Slough Feg, his Druids granted them the means to cover themselves in glamours, which they do as a fashion statement. Hence why after Feg died all teh Fomorians look like identical fish people. Can't remember what chapter they said they were being glamoured. I think it was sometime before Slaine returned to his tribe.
>>131510 Depends on which Hestia, and which other goddesses you're comparing them to.
>>131509 Why the fuck did they make a vagina dentata spider crab instead of just a bigger cow?
>>131511 Ah. So the dude and lady there are lit just fish-people cosplaying as humans...given what the jump itself says about female Formorians, does that means the seemingly female Formorian there is actually male, or...?
>>131513 They wanted something that could recycle for them too.
>>131510 You do know that there's like a whole category of gods across various mythologies that are literally household deities.
>>131512 Bog standard myth Hestia. >>131516 Yes but I'm too lazy to go hunting.
>>131517 >I'm too lazy to go hunting going after a near olympian seems like way more trouble. Like if you have to just bind a nymph or something by planting her tree in your house.
Night dudes
>>131513 It's purpose is to eat trash, a lot of trash. So they are designed to eat everything but metal/glass (they can eat concrete but they mostly just nibble). Yes, creating rapidly breeding (they can produce offspring REALLY fast) things which can basically eat anything plays out exactly how you'd expect.
>>131520 Rest well, Wol.
>>131514 >does that means the seemingly female Formorian there is actually male, Yup. Its just a dude fish in magic cosplay because its their fetish
>>131520 Sleep well.
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>>131508 Tangible illusions + extreme genetic variance from being the result of exiled alien warlock nobility crossbreeding with native aquatic lifeforms. There is a LOT of variance between Fomorians. Not all of them have weird parasitic brundel penises and need a host to survive on land, and not all of them are albinos (which apparently indicates they are nobility), and also apparently the “traditional” Fomorian womian is a building-sized fish monster so I guess the female Fomorians are freaks who like going on land. The whole thing makes a lot of sense if you consider that their progenitor belongs to the Cyth species, which (allegedly) have severed themselves from biological drives (despite people constantly showing up or being paranoid of having Cyth heritage; presumably the Cyth are either using “I have a strategic reason to hop into this woman’s body and seduce King Arthur” logic or are being more hypocritical than usual), so the whole thing is an ongoing species-wide unravelling of social norms and exploration of sexual identity. And by “exploration” I mean “laying eggs in ponds to infest humans like chestbursters”. >>131509 Acausal wormhole corgis. There’s these dog-shaped black holes in Loop Hero and one of the few genuinely good things the SCP fae have created is a corgi whose body stretches all over the planet with little to no pain; they use it like a little fairy person’s subway. I crossbred those, introduced samples from the Worm-in-Waiting’s Messenger species and got Odin to bless the resulting litter. There are now these friendly L O N G dog silhouettes that can pandimensionally bend around corners so that at any given point of space-time there’s a bunch of wagging tails and dog heads on long necks clipping in and out of the doghouse. I use them to hunt Hounds of Tindalos like how sausage dogs were originally used to hunt badgets, by training them to rip and tear higher dimensional beings out of their native environments.
>>131523 Alternatively Pat Mills once again forgot the fine details about his own characters and just drew whatever he thought was cool at the time, just like he seems to keep forgetting the Cyth aren’t supposed to have sex drives.
>final boss of the new Digimon Story game [spoiler]literally features the three Digimon Gods (Drasil, Homeros, and Kunlun) summoning for Omnimon to intervene since the big bad being "part of the Pillar of Time/the System" is protected by the laws of nature and cannot be harmed by anything existing within them[spoiler] >Omnimon, due to existing outside the laws of nature entirely, can apparently just negate the powers of a being comparable to the three Gods in terms of power >immediately just leaves after giving the rest of the heroes the chance to beat the shit out of Chronomon now My favorite part of this has to be Kunlun outright having to tell Drasil and Homeros to stop fucking vagueposting for 2 seconds whilst they're summoning the guy. Also Homero nearly falling asleep mid-convo.
>>131527 I mean yeah, that's most likely the Doylist reason. But in the context of a Chain we must search for Watsonian reasons
>>131528 The hell is kunlun?
>>131520 Night, WoL.
>>131310 So... Who are the best mommies to become the child of for this chainbutt?
>>131530 https://wikimon.net/Kunlun God of Digital World: Shambala, where Susanoomon is from.
>>131530 No. This is Explorer-class Deep Space Mining Vessel Kuun-Lan.
>>131532 Morathi, obviously.
>>131528 I am going to be honest, I am just completely jaded to Digimon escalation after the Eaters, Yggdrasil and Zeedmillenniumon. I get it. Digimon is cosmic and multiversal, I am no longer impressed by mere gods.
>>131536 > I am no longer impressed by mere gods. These Gods - excluding Kunlun - have been around since the franchise start though and have been treated as the top dogs (more or less) for all that time. Though I think this is the one time where we've actually gotten a proper look at Homeros and proper interaction with them as characters rather than mere plot devices Also the game sorta may or may not be addressing Suedou's vague schizoposting from Cyber Sleuth where he implied there was something greater than the Gods within the uktradimensional space that they're all just small parts of.
>>131528 Man, if there are literally 3 separate fucking server computer deities I hope jumper can purchase it as a species option when we finally get a jump for it 5 decades from now.
>>131495 That one ant jump and the bee movie jump.
Since we're talking about Digimon, can you have a computer in the digital world
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>>131528 I'll also add that Homeros's characterization here (with Ygg outright telling her to pay attention because the issue is occurring within her server and Homeros just fucking snoozing) explains so goddamn much.
>>131540 Yes, we literally see one of the kids take their laptop with them on the very first season.
>>131537 >top dogs I genuinely don’t remember any of them doing anything to surpass the things I just listed except in a “this is the legacy character, he’s SUPER powerful so he’s associated with this other powerful thing” kind of way. >spoiler Well, that just confirms my impression.
>>131272 >Black Hammer Build >Location Spiral City – A good place to get started as a hero. >Drawbacks Nemesis x4 (1800) – Every hero needs a proper rogues gallery to be a constant thorn in his side, take up all his time, endanger him daily... Maybe this wasn't a good idea after all. >Powers Supergenius (1300) – Not being a dumbass is often the great power of them all. Sadly this just gives my a high IQ, but that can be extremely useful as well. >Perks Sidekick Magnet Out of pocket powers Secret Identity Team Player Power evolution (1000) – Improve or die is just the name of the game. Chosen one (600) – I love these kind of “you're destined to gain great power” perks, and I grab them wherever I can. Although now that I think on it that might come back to bite me at some point. >Items The Farm – I enjoy having some peaceful places like this for my downtime. The Cabin of horrors (0) – Great magical power and a home more than worthy of any archmage, what more could one ask for? As I said in an earlier post, I'm going to be import my Castlevania into this. So the new guy in town is a less obviously evil Doctor Doom sort of hero of can claim talents worthy of both a sorcerer & scientist supreme. Unfortunately he also comes with a lot of enemies that will end up becoming massive problems for everyone they come across. My plans are mostly to just live the hero life until anti-god shows up again, at witch point I'll whip out Always an Ending from Sidereal Exalted and tell balance to go fuck itself as I put anti-god down once and for all. Thanks again for the fun Jump!
>>131523 Hm. Well, there are perks to resolve that.
>>131544 >I genuinely don’t remember any of them doing anything to surpass the things I just listed The Mother Eater explicitly needed to merge with a (part) of the True Yggdrasil to reset all existence and this is hyped as being the most powerful non-Digimon thing in the franchise thus far. Ogudomon X is the most powerful non-Jesmon GX (maybe Negamon/Abadomon too) Digimon specifically because it's on the same level as God/Yggdrasil and thus nothing that doesn't transcend the world can reach it. And Time Stranger seems to be implying that everything we saw of the Host Computers were just tiny parts of them, since they seem jsut fine chilling in the In-Between Theater and despite the ongoing multiversal crisis, Homeros cannot be assed to wake up for more than a few minutes at a time to focus depsite it being her server/multiverse that's under threat. The Gods have always sat at the very top of the power tier. >Well, that just confirms my impression. I don't think that confirms anything at all.
>>131532 Holly Joestar
>>131526 Speaking of Cyth, when Praise Be To Me! says: >The High Cyth, the physical gods of your race. As a High Cyth you exist on a higher plane of reality than most beings. While you can be injured by the primitive beings of the world, you cannot be easily killed, any physical wounds levied against you will heal on their own over time, with even the loss of a limb or eye needing no more than a day's time. It is just referring to the fact that you'll heal from anything that doesn't immediately kill you, or is it indicating some sort of 'since the core part of you is in a higher-dimension, they need a weapon of a higher dimension to kill you properly' deal? I presume the first but figure a second opinion wouldn't hurt.
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>>131548 don't pull a kakyoin
After many rolls of the Gacha, I have finally seen a second male character in my current waifu bait game. Much like the first it is also a dog.
>>131540 The mecha Digimon have entire computer networks they use to collect data.
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>>131532 The obvious
>>131551 Women.
>>131554 *White women FTFY
Besides the Mummy Trilogy, what are jumps that have magical shit going on in Egypt that show up in some capacity?
>>131550 What's funny is how this is a meme for part 3 but is canonically how Josuke and Okuyasu act
>>131549 I am obviously not the jumpmaker but in-story, it is presented as more than former than the latter. High Cyth HAVE died but mostly from warping earth power (the ultimate plot device) rather than attacking some higher core. The High Cyth range from actual pandimensional Lovecraftian tentacle piles to that one dude who’s a head with legs, but the commonality for both seems to be they have a vague and low key powerful form of regeneration that’s practically plot armour: It’s not always effective enough to recover in pitched combat without some other way of consuming life energy, but it does mean despite being hacked/stabbed the Gulledig can keep respawning without a scratch later in Slaine’s story. >>131557 Mummy the Curse and Mummy the Resurrection is all about that.
>>131536 The cosmic multiversal Digimon spam WILL continue until morale improves.
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>>131557 Dresden Files has an undead city under Ciro >>131536 The waifumon are all that matter
>>131536 Digimon's always been cosmic level though? Like, the second World game has you kill and usurp god, while the first season has a demon trying to conquer multiple worlds. Also Cthulu
>>131562 >Also Cthulu Yes?
>>131526 Hey shard, how do you view the Fera (oWoD) from WtA?
>>131563 nta, but they have a cthullu, but he isn't even max evolution https://wikimon.net/Dagomon
>>131565 I'm aware, I'm just making the joke.
>>131398 Huh? People still talk about this setting?
>>131564 Not him, but the Fera are pretty much just worse Garou.
>>131568 I like the Corax tho
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Jumper do your waifus conform to the golden ratio?
>>131566 ah yes, your other name Cthulhu Fartagain.
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>>131288 Earth Defense Force: The Primer Invasion] Earth Defence Force 5 Advanced Research Lab Technician Basic Training (Free) Reload! (Free) Oh, We Are The Valiant Infantry… (Free) High Up In The Air Our Comrades Fight… (Free) It’s Only With Our Sacrifice… (Free) Now Pick Up Our Weapons, Off We Go… (Free) Military Research Technician (Free) Survival Til The End (900) Advanced Research Lab Technician (700) Advance of the Primers (400) Base Equipment (Free) EDF 5 + 6 Soundtrack (Free) Drone Strikes (300) Electromagnetic Material Collapser (200) Malice (0) “This is a waste of time” I declared. Elodie looked up in pleading annoyance as I stood up from among the other assembled, worried scientists, grabbed my shit, threw it in a box, tossed Grail the box and walked out ignoring the ongoing giant monster rampage. “Anon, people are trying to save civilisation here” she said severely. “You and I both know that if things progress, 90% of the population is going to die and the remaining 10% will experience a collapse in civilisation” I said, nonchalant as the winter wind. A giant monster stepped on me. Elodie and I simply let it phase through us while Grail, being a huge bitch, remained solid and tore through it’s biomass with a barrier of Omega energy. The monster stumbled away, shrieking in pain. “Following an extraordinarily effort, a new timeline revises those casualties to a mere 30%. Let me ask you: Are those acceptable casualties?” “No” said Elodie, “but there’s no call to be rude” 1/2 “I’m just telling it like it is” I said, sighing as in one hand I tugged at the strings of Samsara while in the other, Vex paracasuality formed a singularity. My Eye of the World shone as I rerouted Phenomena Affirmation through it. “What was, will be. You need achronal solutions to achronal problems. Grail? Omega Sanction, Mars. Now and then, here and there” “It’s already done. What will be, was” she said smugly, several seconds after seemingly shooting off eyebeams over the horizon randomly. Several timelines ago, Mars simply exploded before intelligent life could evolve in such a way that was instantiated in every timeline. The Martian invasion fleet flickered out of existence. History rerouted in such a way that human civilisation remained the same. More or less. “Out of respect for my…colleagues, and as compensation for the achronal difficulties” I announced, as I finished a few tricky Craft: Fate manoeuvres, “I’ve snatched the sum total combat data from the previous timeline and inserted it into early formerly-military research now implemented for disaster recovery and logistics transportation” “Thank you” said Elodie, relieved. “I wanted to fight giant monsters, this is boring” complained Grail. “You…want to living creatures to fight wars they don’t comprehend and die by your hand for your amusement?” I asked. “Oh yes, very much. Sorry, it’s in my nature” said Grail, shrugging. “Well, I can’t let you do that BUT…hear me out” I said thoughtfully, staring at my fight-happy AI.
[Expand Post] Several months later, a new Olympic sport took place on the moon in which teams of men with guns (and drones, and ugh-giant robots) fought AI-controlled ROBOT versions of the monsters from the previous timeline. It was extremely wasteful resource-wise, but it was an effective motivator for innovating logistics technology. 2/2 >>131564 Collectively? As a tragedy, and a very typical instance of the so-called most peaceful Primordial Gaia’s (we have ExWoD now, the ambiguity of Gaia the beyond-Celestine and Gaia the Primordial is no longer ambiguous in my chain) darker nature. The vast majority of them were set up to fail because the Garou were designed to be both aggressive and better than everyone else at fighting and winning, and because Gaia didn’t fucking bother making the rest immune to Wyrm corruption. The Ajaba have the quesitonable honor of defeating themselves before the Garou could. The Anansi had great potential (probably credited to being a WEAVER creation instead of a Gaia one) but once again, the Wyrm gets everyone the Garou don’t. The Corax were just about the only ones smart enough to survive as quislings to the retarded wolves. The Grondr are proof that God himself has seemingly abandoned the Fera, and that the only path forwards for them was survival through corruption before I came along. The Mokole are living fossils pining for a world that can never be again. The Camazotz break my hearts with the sheer scale of their suffering. Becoming one and thus comprehending the sheer scale of their loss is what drove me to genocide the Garou rather than accept even a little help dealing with the Weaver and the Wyrm. The Garou are, frankly, a pest species. The other Fera were cared for and allowed to prosper in separate environments after mankind ascends to godhood. Emphasis on separate. I view Gaia’s obsession with evolutionary competition as the root of all suffering brought on them, and the only way for Fera civilisation to eventually rise to Dragon King-like heights with their limited capacity for divinity (at least compared to pureblooded humans, who are literally fragments of God) being essentially kept in carefully tended terrarium-universes. It was the prototype for what I eventually decided to do as an act of mercy for Spider-Man, basically.
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>>131408 Menu, Open!. It's my favourite menu system around, since it's got some pretty neat abilities to it and scales off of normal earth stats. Also I keep trying to use any/all three versions of the Conduit CYOA as a bodymod/warehouse, but those chains never actually go anywhere.
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>>131559 Good to know! Thanks. Have abbs as repayment.
Do you classify centaurs as infantry or cavalry?
>>131576 infantry if on foot. cavalry if they are properly mounted on a horse.
>>131572 Eh, close enough. I was not particularly mature when I made that name.
How would Digimon fair against Shadowrun's Great Dragons and Horrors?
>>131576 Vehicles.
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As always, it depends on the Digimon. Leomon not so great. Jijimon and Babamon would probably be fucking OP if they went all out.
>>131579 Digimon scale from digimon being slightly above human powerlevels to being able to eat planets. Like, in the same evolution level even. In the same season. Frontier was weird.
Blog post time! I was just carded for this tonight, apparently you have to be 17+ years old to have a toy thats labelled for 6 and up. Its literally just a knock off lego set. What are the weirdest laws jumper has implemented in their kingdom?
>>131583 >What are the weirdest laws jumper has implemented in their kingdom? I mostly just implement random laws that no one's expected to actually follow that I can use to fine rich people. Like making it illegal to have black hair and freckles, or for women to be potty trained before the age of 19, or to ride a horse after 6pm on February 29th.
>>131582 >Frontier was weird. Digimon in general is weird.
Everyone gets a chain, but for the first ten jumps you cannot get any companions or followers. Where do you go during this period and what do you do?
>>131586 I'd probably focus on abilities that are good for building up forces in each jump. Like charisma and mind control to recruit people, things like cloning and robotics to make forces, maybe some magic to summon things, stuff like that
>>131586 I don't normally go for companions or followers anyways, so I'd probably do a normal chain? I guess I could also just go for a bunch of short duration jumps. Luigi's Mansion 1-3, Reimu's Awesome Holiday, Psycho Waluigi, Bloodborne. Princess Peach's Showtime, The Simpsons Game, The Simpsons Hit and Run, and Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor. Might sub in a full length jump, Chronicles of Narnia, as my tenth jump, to pick up the Clock of Ages. It'd have a 4x time dilation effect at that point which would be pretty nice
>>131586 Deal, this is the start of my superhero chain. I start in Batman and Superman TAS, then pull a heroic "your omega eyes can't kill me, death only makes me stronger" move on Darkseid. Then spend about twelve jumps looking for a way back before I can enjoy the rest of JLU.
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In the Black Crusade jump is the Ultramarine Librarian that delivers the final part of the Legacy of The Aquila relic weapon to you considered a free companion or follower? Or is he just going to fuck off after doing his part?
>>131586 As many jumps as I can with short durations so that I can skip out of the ten jump 'can't take companion' period. I can maybe put Link to the Past in there, since there's like five jumps in seven years there, and they all have early exit conditions to go to the next game once the plot is done iirc.
>>131579 Digimon, like the other anon illustrated, vary from literal babies who can't do much to things that can swallow planets and nuke universes. Within the same evolution chain. So it really comes down to how long it takes them to digivolve and what kind of Digimon is being sent there, since anything above a strong Mega could solo the setting.
>>131590 There’s a lot of guys who just show up and fuck off like Malcador and his staff in that jump, so I assume he’s a fuckoffer, an anti-follower, a leaver if you will.
>>131573 >but once again, the Wyrm gets everyone the Garou don’t. I mean, there were Fera specifically meant to digest and purify Wyrm taint with no repercussions on themselves. It's just that the Garou literally murdered all of them. Also don't forget the Garou genociding their Bunyip cousins so hard that the Australian Dreamtime literally put out a "KILL ON SIGHT" order for any Garou so much as sensed laying a paw on Australian soil. Same for the Ananasi, who aided in that shit.
>>131561 >Dresden Files has an undead city under Ciro Wut? Where does this show up?
>>131594 >Killed the only Fera that can purify Wyrm taint >Murderfucked humanity so hard their great×256 grandchildren still break down as soon as a Fera does anything >Caused the entire Wyrm thing to begin with Taking a perk that causes everything true that you speak be instantly believed and shouting this at the Wolves wouldn't even change their ways. They'd just try to kill you, the only thing they know how to do.
>>131595 In one of the books when they are listing where and why wizard council people cannot show up. One was on vacation there.
>>131586 Probably go through the Disney jumps, since they've got plenty of useful perks and stuff while still being (relatively) safe, and along the way grab a waifu after the first ten jumps. Maybe I'll grab Miraculous Maiden in Sword in the Stone, say she was a fox I saved in my first jump who's somehow been chasing after me throughout my adventure but only got to truly be with me after she was turned into a beautiful maiden as a reward for her devotion and effort or something.
>>131596 Do these things make good pelts?
>>131337 I mean yeah it gives you powers same as the hammer (and andromeda gear arguably?) but the items you can just get a discount on, which you can't get with the superpowers For how much you get out of it a post discount cabin (600cp) is still a bargain. Compare it to a post discount erasure power (700cp) Wanting the cabin for 300cp is greedy
>>131596 >*uses Detect Wyrm* Sounds like a case of Wyrm malarkey to me anon. Gonna have to kill you now.
>>131598 Your eleventh jump is Kingdom Hearts, and your first waifu is Aqua. She barges into things and demands to know how you've been getting across worlds without a keyblade.
>>131599 If I remember right only the weaker ones remain in BIG WOLF MAN form when killed. The stronger ones with the more majestic belts shift to their original form when killed, I think. Might be remembering wrong.
>>131602 >Must resist urge to answer "DARKNESS"
>>131599 You know the one item in one of the warhammer fantasy jumps that is a cloak or something made out of dwarves beard hair that causes immense disgust and anger in dwarves? Make an entire fucking outfit and armor from their heathen pelts. >>131601 I cast THERMONUCLEAR BLAST I'll gladly use a one up to fuck them over.
>>131594 People make jokes about Lunars in Exalted not doing anything, but given how the Garou in WoD act, maybe sitting around and not doing anything is the smart move.
>>131586 You can do ten jumps is less than ten years, this isn't all that crippling. Also my 5th chain I didn't have a companion until Jump 21. Realistically though I'd probably go to either shorter places or places where I can have a good amount of friends. Probably porn jumps.
>>131602 "Aqua, haven't you seen others that have travelled worlds without Keyblades already? Radiant Garden is full of them."
>>131604 Do it nerd. trigger her trauma
>>131596 It really is funny to me how, despite how fucked they are, CofD Garou are so insanely better than oWoD ones.
>>131610 Probably because it wasn't written by eco-anarchist bestiality fetishists who thought shitting on a rich guy's Ferrari was totally gonna bring down the system. Changing Breeds was basically everything wrong with old WW.
>>131602 >"Magic! It is not...an exact science."
>>131610 Chronicles Uratha are actually fucking remorseful for their actions. OWoD Garou are fucking lunatics who just want to kill people while lamenting the fact that they can't murder good enough.
>>131347 >>131352 Probably. Though definetly depends on the kind of perk. The power Evolution perk IS a perk partially based on characters that inexplicably just become incredibly strong (out of nowhere) because the story needs them to. And moonbeam girl just rewrote her own character. Such a meta way of evolving would encompass perks potentially
>>131545 Thanks for the build I also mostly go for a genius techno magic build and comfy homes. I like your style
>>131596 Lock Nahiri and a Garou in a room. Until the end of time, neither is every going to not blame the other for getting locked in that room. >>131610 Except for the Pure, the token evil spirit-corrupted antagonist splat version of them, who are…literally just the Garou in all their glory. Especially the Predator Kings.
>>131610 The Uratha are genuinely remorseful for Father Wolf's death (even though it literally wasn't their fault why he had to die and it was an objective net good compared to letting him slowly and painfully wither, and Pangaea with him) and have spent their whole existence trying to make amends for fucking everything up in their eyes. The Garou have no such guilt; the vast majority still think the only flaws with the War of Rage and Impergium is that they didn't kill /enough/. There's a reason the CofD equivalent to the Garou, the Pure, are literally pure fucking evil and are all that the Garou have ever been but without the thin veneer of still needing to be something players would want to play to hide behind.
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>>131606 I feel like all they had to do to prevent "Lunars are useless" jokes was just add that they managed to hold off an entire direction during the post-Contagion Raksha invasion. Just have the East be less devastated because they actually managed to hold them off over there, but couldn't do so for all four at once. >>131611 >Changing Breeds Hahaha, HAHAHAHA
>>131617 The Wolves and the... Changelings? I think, had some major changes in Chronicles and I think they were for the better. Makes me sad it seemed to have been abandoned for World stuff again. I was never a mage player so I dunno how much they changed in the transition, and Vampires are still moody cunts but ruled over by near-immortal assholes. >>131618 Yeah, having them say that about Old Mage is...a choice.
>>131619 >Yeah, having them say that about Old Mage is...a choice. That's actually the CofD Changing Breeds (yes, there's a CofD one too).
>>131619 Not lings, Geist. Even if it isn't a direct continuation of Wraith, it's clearly a spiritual successor. Lings got way more depressing.
>>131605 >Make an entire fucking outfit and armor from their heathen pelts. >tfw jumper shows up looking like an unga bunga caveman, his gear is nothing but Garou bones, furs, sinew, and accouterments.
>>131618 >pic What the fuck am I reading?
>>131619 Changelings are more broken and insane in Chronicles comparatively. In oWoD, they were a lot more of a broadly decent/relatively sane faction compared to everyone not named the Mummies. Which is probably why in HTP, you have Big D expressing sympathy for them even though a deranged fae lord stole one of his boys. >>131623 Concentrated schizoposting.
>>131272 Black Hammer Origin: M, "9", The Farm Drawbacks: Childhood Experience +100 1100 Powers: Stipend +300, Golden Gail -600 800 Perks: Sidekick Magnet, Secret Identity, Comic Book Physics -100, Unchanging Mind -300, Mine Is The Power -300. -700 100 Items: The Farm, Costume, Secret Hideout -100 0 Just a pretty simple build because Golden Gail's powerset is fun. I'm gonna just go with me being the only member of the Golden Family that survived fighting Anti-God, which meant I got trapped in the Farm with everyone else. Unfortunately, this means that I'm going to have to deal with being stuck living with someone who abandoned me and my family alongside survivor's guilt, alongside dealing with all the interpersonal drama everyone else is having, and the fact that I actually know the truth of things and can't tell anyone since this is, in fact, the best result. I'll never really get a chance to actually USE my new powers either. There's not much reason to use them on the farm, there certainly won't be a reason to use them on Earth, and I won't even be here when Black Hammer's kids manage to make it to Earth. I'll pretty much just get to use them during the short period of time between escaping the Farm and having to go back to stop Anti-God's manifestation.
>>131618 >I feel like all they had to do to prevent "Lunars are useless" jokes was just add that they managed to hold off an entire direction during the post-Contagion Raksha invasion. Just have the East be less devastated because they actually managed to hold them off over there, but couldn't do so for all four at once. My idea is to say the Lunars are the reason the Empire is crumbling, and that even with the disappearance of her redness the returning Solars would get stomped if the Lunars hadn’t spent hundreds of years wearing the Empire down.
>>131623 In WoD/CofD books, whenever there's a playable splat, there's (usually) a brief section labeled "STEREOTYPES" that basically gives a glimpse into what the average fucker of that splat thinks of the other ones. Typically, this comes across as a lot of grandstanding with everyone trying to prop themselves up as better than those OTHER weird supernaturals who they don't understand. Sometimes they're more nuanced and wary (Mages often make the other splats nervous). All in all, it's usually fun to read, but the Changing Breeds' stereotypes are just so fucking crazy. They have absolutely NO perspective. Only Beast (especially pre-rewrite) has ones this utterly lacking in comprehension of who they're talking about.
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>>131620 Oh right, got confused. CofD Changing Breeds was basically all the worst bits of Old WW ported into New WW. >>131623 The races/groups in Changing Breeds have OPINIONS about the other races. Some of them are hilariously mistaken about the totem pole in their world. >>131624 Yeah I got 'em mixed up with Geists, who are basically on a constant high from not being dead anymore.
>>131627 They rewrote Beast? Figured they'd drop it after the main writer was revealed as a ped. Especially with such great ability names like "You Deserve This"
>>131627 I still vividly remember the “What would remain if I pulled off your mask?” line. That dumb fucking Beast set himself up as the victim of a Baneposting moment. News flash: Pulling the mask off a DtD demon causes it to Go Loud i.e. transform into a pissed-off reality warping killer robot who can and will use every reality glitch in it’s arsenal to fuck up whoever just blew it’s cover.
>>131629 Yes/no. By "Rewrite" I mean since the original manuscript, which was even fucking worse than the post-release Beast you're probably familiar with. So no, no rewrite since it dropped (but there have at least been a few books, not sure where they stand in the timeline of Matt getting outed though), but in the broader scale of Beast's history there was indeed one rewrite.
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>remember Underworld exists >see that our jump for it is pure and utter ass >mfw
>>131631 Honestly I think the 'teaching lessons' thing was still there after a rewrite, and that was a complete mess considering all their examples of Beasts teaching lessons were them being petty retards or unhinged psychopaths.
>>131630 "What would remain if I took your gold?" The lone dwarf said to the Great Wyrm Dragon.
>>131586 Gonna say maybe Kengan Ashura, Indiana Jones, Batman the Animated Series, Psychonauts, JoJo Parts 3 and 4, Resident Evil, Bloodborne, Monster Hunter World, and Dark Souls 2, in roughly that order. First three Jumps are mostly grounded compared to later Jumps and work more on my worldliness, baseline physical ability, and general competency. Psychonauts is where I'd get my first taste of supernatural power while also chilling out by just hanging out as a kid for a while with fewer responsibilities. That's transitioning into JoJo Part 3 and 4 where I'd be able to just hang out for a long time and get a lot more socializing in even if I can't keep any steady companions, and breaks up some of the isolation that's really built up over time. Resident Evil, Bloodborne, Monster Hunter World, and Dark Souls 2 are where I go from there building up mental abilities and non-combat skills, as well as prepping to make my own monsters with both "grounded" and esoteric forms of scientific practices.
>>131630 These two lines are just so fucking funny, for basically the same reasons yet with such wonderful nuances to them.
>>131626 >pic See, that just makes it funnier, because it sounds as if even the writers admit the Lunars should have been fucking things up or showing off, but they just couldn't be fucked to do anything about it. The 'They've never really had a good place to fit in ever since' makes it even funnier, because with everything else they've done or changed or made, the idea of changing the lore to have the Lunars be the terror of the empire or secretly behind a network of spies, agents, and rebels waiting to start a Counter-Revolution, something that would make the Lunars have a proper role in the story, just...never occurred to them. Or they were just too lazy to do it. Or both.
>>131630 So it WOULD, indeed, be extremely painful.
>>131636 >I AM THE ABYSS Chuuni dumbass is about to get turned into a chair.
>>131638 For the Beast.
>>131586 Is it fair to assume the Hellsing exploit doesn't work for this?
>>131636 Demons are like, the least offensive of the races so it's weird to see the CB so hostile to them. But yeah, they are VASTLY overestimating how strong they are. Even the absolutely ridiculous Elephant breeds would have their teeth kicked in by a Demon going loud.
>>131641 Correct, exploits in general don't work. Closest you're going to get to an exploit is to just take ten shorter jumps.
>>131636 See, the first line is funny to me because it reads like some edgy protagonist/heroine trying to act all big and tough and make herself seem like some legendary thing, while the second line is funny because it reads like a normal who thinks they're in an action hero setting and doesn't realize they're in a horror setting, poking the horror.
>>131636 >>131639 Moron is going to get hollowed out and worn like a floppy condom by an Abyssal Intruder.
Would a Leviathan do ok against a beast.
>>131645 It sounds like a recipe for someone throwing them into the actual Abyss, with all the horror and pain that entails.
>>131633 It is still there. The main difference is that the pre-rewrite manuscripts are even MORE school-shootery, and even MORE overbearing about Beasts being the biggest and strongest bestest monsters. Seriously, they aggressively shit talk every other splat. >>131638 Demons have a really cool mechanic called Going Loud where (assuming it hasn't been forcibly stripped from them, in which case it occurs automatically) they can sacrifice their human disguise/life. Doing so immediately transforms them into their full robo-angel death machine form, raises their power stat to the max and unlocks SO MANY of the Splat's powers immediately. It's basically a nuclear button final form they can initiate whose only downside is that it ALSO calls enemy angels to the area who are NOT allied with whatever caused the Demon to Go Loud. Combine this with the fact that Demons are one of the arguably three strongest Splats up there with Mage, and the answer to the Beast's question is basically >An apocalyptic free for all between reality warping robot angels exploding directly on top of you >>131642 Those two specifically are actually Beast Stereotypes.
>>131646 A Leviathan could probably manhandle most of them aside from those Beasts that have fully embraced their horrors and literally turned into bestiary Rank 10 gods. So yeah.
>>131645 God, IMAGINE the Beast saying that towards a Scelestus, or a fucking Baal.
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>>131637 >pic I made that a while ago, and I’ve been waiting for a chance to post it ever since. >something that would make the Lunars have a proper role in the story, just...never occurred to them. Or they were just too lazy to do it. Or both. Yeah, there are all kinds of things the Lunars could be doing, but the writers apparently couldn’t think of any of the ideas anons in these threads put together with ease. Though now that I think about it, maybe Lunars are actually really impressive. They’re solid contenders for the position of having been screwed over by White Wolf writing the most in Exalted, and all that happened was they were made useless.
>>131643 Does it stop you from using the Warehouse's Return option after the first ten jumps and podding someone from that setting?
>>131649 Damn. Even the Leviathans BTFO them.
>>131652 No, the limitation is gone after the conclusion of your tenth jump.
>>131646 Beasts basically magically hypnotize every other race (except Demons) into loving them so probably not. But if there was a way around it probably. You'd be in trouble if you get dragged to their Lair, but it'd also give you a chance to directly murder their beast. >>131648 >Those two specifically are actually Beast Stereotypes. that's even worse
>>131636 God, this just gets worse the more I think about it. I just remembered that Beasts mentally frame themselves as the bigger, stronger older brother of all the other supernaturals. Their sheer lack of comprehension is fucking baffling.
>>131653 Basically everything does. The only real advantage the Beasts get is that due to horribly broken RAW, they can bullshit themselves into effectively sitting amongst the strongest things in the setting st the cost of becoming non-playable and it taking fucking forever to do so. That, and the Dark Mother being implied to be anything from the Raptor ( an Exarch) to something that helped forge the Watchtowers the Oracles use, but that's a feat for /her/ - not for her kids.
>>131632 It’s kind of funny trying to imagine what would be added in updates with how the vampire-werewolf war eventually evolves into total human victory solely because of Selene repeatedly killing off everyone of importance. Also there’s something really funny about the fact that by the last movie, the werewolves have FINALLY figured out that just trying to maul the vampires is fucking stupid and that using grenade launchers and exploiting their UV weakness is much more effective. >Werewolf vivisecting laboratory >Vampire Ultra Instinct transformation only nordic vampires know for some fucking reason >Elite werewolf supersoldier program that could’ve apparently killed every antagonist before it started given that Selene just mows through everyone like chaff except Marcus once she’s motivated enough >>131646 Low Depth Leviathan transformations are things Beasts need to achieve the Incarnation or Merger to permanently sustain. It’s not quite as clearcut who’d actually win in a fight because IIRC Leviathan powers are kind of glass cannon-y and Beast is really fucking minmaxed despite having a relatively smaller overall scope of effect. That said, in-universe Leviathan has a much easier time turning into Godzilla/becoming a malevolent ecosystem/dropping a hurricane on a city so before the fight gets to the point where combat mechanics actually matter I think the Leviathan has a much easier time of fucking owning the Beast on it’s home turf simply by invoking greater dominance and fear on the local supernatural community. See, Beasts have this concept called an Apex where the most feared supernatural being in a given territory has significant influence on all Beasts living their’s Lairs (their Domain Expansion. The Apex DOESN’T HAVE TO BE A BEAST. And oh look, Leviathans have this Wake that spreads religious awe in humans near them whether they like it or not…
>>131655 The Beast social thing is actually not that severe. They can even horribly fumble it and get hostile first reactions.
>>131658 Sorry, should be HIGH Depth Leviathan transformations, my brain short-circuited because I started thinking “lower depth=bigger depth”
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>>131656 >I just remembered that Beasts mentally frame themselves as the bigger, stronger older brother of all the other supernaturals >Beasts actually think they're El Hermano
My favorite part of Beasts is that, while their method of feeding is terrorizing people...they don't actually have to do it at all. Literally watching ANY other supernatural get fed will also feed them. But no, most of them prefer to terrorize people because they were bullied as a kid or some other shit.
>>131660 I mean, lower depth is darker and more pressurized, so I didn't even see anything wrong.
>>131612 10 years 90% of the time sounds pretty exact
>>131661 Yes, that is legitimately, unironically, what they actually believe. It gets even worse when you stop and think about the actual line of reasoning they're using. >We are the manifestation of people's fear of monsters. >That means we came first before the monsters people got scared of. They unironically take this at face value, instead of realizing that their conclusion is THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT LOGICALLY FOLLOWS FROM THAT.
>>131661 Beasts tried to pull a God-Machine Chronicles and make it so that everything was actually because of their super special Dark Mother.
>>131662 You're fucking joking. You cannot fucking tell me that Mr kiddie doodler could've just paid a vampire to drink somebody's blood infront of them instead of diddling to feed the beast. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE FUCKS COULD JUST DO THIS INSTEAD?! GENOCIDE BEASTS, I WAS FOR THIS BEFORE, BUT NOW MORE SO.
>>131666 Which is incredibly hilarious because the one thing they abjectly refuse to claim is associated with them is God-Machine Chronicles.
>>131661 The funny thing is the token irredeemable Beast-alike splat, the Insatiable, thinks that THEY are the Beasts’ collective El Hermano. They are basically even more fucked up and elemental Beasts who don’t have Lairs but CAN parasitise a Beast’s Lair, and they believe this is because they’re the direct descendent of another nebulous ancient god-monster called the Primogenitor who used to be the Dark Mother’s fuckbuddy. They prey on Beasts because they’re resent the Dark Mommy not giving them any kind of home and in a twisted way because Beasts are the closest thing they think they have to family. I can sum up the Insatiable by pointing out how even Beasts, BEASTS, find them disgusting and horrific.
Now I’m imagining that the other supernaturals treat Beasts as useful idiots that you can point at your enemies. The Beasts are running around thinking they’re powerful and feared by everyone, while everyone else thinks of them as the unga bunga mooks you can control if you have even an ounce of guile.
>Tell undead priests to build a giant elephant fish golem construct called a Medjed >They build a ghost sheet with laser beam eyes Medjed construct instead
>>131667 But you don’t understand. Traumatising humans is a high and noble calling because you’re teaching them lessons (as opposed to traumatising Beasts themselves which is an unforgivable crime)
>>131658 Nta, but werewolves where literally using UV emitting bullets in the first movie.
>>131670 This is genuinely kind of what happens sometimes. Changelings sometimes keep a Beast around so if a True Fae shows up the Beast will tard rage to defend them, some Werewolves use Beasts as backup on hunts, and Mages think they're idiots and sometimes try (and fail) to explain to Beasts how their powers actually work while studying them.
>>131673 Yeah but it’s only in the last one where the werewolves actively start letting in sunlight by grenading open buildings, and also using riot shields to exploit the notorious vampire weakness of not using firearms above a certain calibre for some reason (probably because it look as cool when you try to backflip with a rocket launcher or sniper rifle and just fall over because your traditional vampiric high heels are already tottering precariously)
Wait Beasts literally diddle kids?
>>131667 It doesn't even have to be that. Geists get Plasm by doing stuff like...meditating in cemeteries, performing religious ceremonies, or helping ghosts. Changelings leech their energy from emotions.
>>131674 >Mages try to explain how another splat's power ACHSUALLY works They barely fucking know how any other splat works, and just assume they are correct.
>>131662 >>131672 Villains whose sole reason for being villains is 'waaah, someone made me sad once, so now I'm going to TRAUMATIZE and MURDER innocents who had NOTHING to do with my original pain' deserve to be bullied relentlessly.
>>131674 >Beast stares down True Fae “monster” threatening his new Changeling “friends” >Changelings just run away from what they perceive as 2 True Fae having a brawl >Beast takes one look at the True Fae and goes “Nah, I’d win” >The True Fae is so amused it goes along with it, styling itself as a hunter striving against a mighty wild animal The correct conclusion of Beast-Changeling interactions is that Beasts should end up getting along with the True Fae instead because they’re both narrative-obsessed weirdos.
>>131676 The books won't go on to directly describe that as happening, but the language Beast uses for many things is highly, H I G H L Y suspect in that regard. There's a reason people sometimes call it Rapist: The Victimblaming.
>>131678 To be fair I’m inclined to believe them about the God-Machine mainly because one of the Contagions leaking out of it is literally the remnants of the metaphysical ladder that used to connect the Supernal and Phenomenal worlds
>>131677 ...SO MANY FUCKING.... DUMBASS FUCKING SPLAT
>>131680 >True Fae, seeing someone who is as autistic and crazy as they are:
>>131680 This is what happened in the original manuscripts, where Beasts were much more hostile and domineering over the other Splats. It literally described Beasts sometimes helping True Fae hunt down Changelings and humans.
>>131676 Their writer does.
>>131682 Congratulations, they have understanding in a single facet of reality correct.
>>131686 I feel like from all I'd heard about Beasts over the years that guy should've been on a watchlist
>>131674 >some Werewolves use Beasts as backup on hunts You know you suck when the Garou can rope you into being their muscle.
>>131684 Why does Tai Lung have so many teeth?
>>131678 The only ones I'd say they have no fucking clue about is Mummy. I don't get what the problem is with Mage's studying and understanding shit. Ignoring their spellcasting, their core power is literally just being able to see how everything is put together, and cross reference it with everything else they've seen.
>>131687 …does it help that Imperial Mysteries asserts that the reason why mages cannot simply wipe mummies/werewolves/geists/etc out of existence is because they all have “archmage-level” entities sponsoring them? Which is really sad in the case of Prometheans and Deviants. >tfw once again Princess gets fucked over for daring to not play the escalation game
>>131692 >tfw once again Princess gets fucked over for daring to not play the escalation game I will always maintain that the Princesses aren’t underpowered, everyone else is overpowered.
>>131690 he's a spiritual whale physical snow leopard this is to contrast him with po who is a physical panda spiritual fat fuck
>>131685 >Beasts sometimes helping True Fae hunt down Changelings and humans The sad thing is, monsters born from humanity's fears being used as hunting hounds by alien entities styling themselves after stories and fairy tales actually sounds pretty cool, and would make for pretty cool villains. Too bad it's Beast. >>131692 >>131693 I'm of two minds on this: on the one hand, there is a sort of in-universe logic to this, in that they're drawing from a power source that is losing the cosmic/metaphysical war, the Light, Good, in a World of Darkness where most of the people running the show are evil. On the other hand, isn't the entire point of the splat going 'fuck that, we're going to make things better and push back the darkness'? You could make the argument they didn't want to make the splat overpowered compared to the canon stuff, but they ended up making it underpowered instead.
>>131695 If your magical girl can't recreate the big bang with a punch are you really writing a magical girl?
>>131696 >Recreate the big bang with a punch I'm pretty sure Saint Seiya isn't a magical girl setting
What are your favorite recent-ish jumps?
>>131698 Witch Awakening and A Thousand Li
>>131698 Either The Coffin Of Andy and LeyLey or Digimon Cybersleuth
>>131695 I would be more convinced the Light itself is the sponsor for the Nobility in the same sense that presumably the Principle and the Qashmallim/Lilim are the sponsors for Prometheans if the Light wasn’t getting fucking bodied on every front in an environment where the Light-Dark slapfight isn’t even biggest conflict in the setting. The Annunaki would end the conflict in the worst possible way if one were to crawl it’s stanky ass up into reality. The Judges of Duat have WON for all intents and purposes; there is never even any consequence levelld against them hinted at for every Mummy accomplishing Apotheosis or the sleepy Fate slave version. I am left to believe that the poor, overworked Empress of Storms is only being with both a connection to the Nobility and enough power to feasibly be a sponsor. And even then, she is probably less of a direct participant in the Ascension Wars and it’s more like “Whoa, that vortex of hatred and retribution sure seems protective of SOME of the magical girls. Better not poke it too hard in case it comes my way” given Storms is stuck literally raging against the dying of the Light in the depths of the Dark.
All this WoD talk has reminded me that 4/tg/ has a thread for Esoterrorists vs the Camarilla going on right now, which is pretty fun - aside from one schizo Vampfag throwing a tantrum. Speaking of both though, here's the current Ocean Game WIP. Finally finished all the Mystery Men, so now I can move onto describing the various trials of the Blessings and the Monkey & Clown. >>131670 That's basically how many trwat them, yeah.
>>131676 Their writer was a predator and the writing in the books never says anything outright, but is written in such a manner that it's easily the natural conclusion.
>>131702 >one schizo Vampfag >asserting vampire supremacy across all settings is STILL alive after decades Damn, I’m impressed. I think even magefags have faded away, mostly due to disappointment from any meaningful competition as Exalted continuously nerfs itself.
>>131697 There are several magical girl settings who can, in fact, recreate the big bang with a punch. I'd place good money on the stronger Precure teams being able to do it even.
>>131704 >mostly due to disappointment from any meaningful competition as Exalted continuously nerfs itself. Are there any fics of an Awakening mage getting Isekai'd to full power 2E Exalted land? Or vice versa. ExVsCofD doesn't count.
>>131705 >I'd place good money on the stronger Precure teams being able to do it even. I don’t remember which Precure team hit their big bad with an attack they compared to the force of the big bang, but I do remember the KiraKira team recreated the Earth after it was destroyed.
Do any of you know of trees or flowers that bloom during rain or storms?
>>131698 Might be EDF5&6, Cyber Sleuth, Generic Isekai, and WoL's YuGiOh/Digimon jumps. I just went through the jumpmaking thread up to a few months back so QQ jumps aren't included in the list. Didn't give a shit about the Generic Isekai dupe until I saw the shit talking drawback and realized I could use it for Harold. Cyber Sleuth finally got made, which is nice. I was thinking Shadowrun trilogy until bro removed the megacorp item and then I saw him talking about adding the fucking Galactic Senate in a Jedi youngling jump.
>>131708 Rain Lilies are the only ones I know of.
>>131706 Hah, no. As far as I know magefags don’t even use Imperial Mysteries material for fanfiction powerfantasies, JUST to win internet arguments. >>131708 Sakuras. The ones in my backyard just bloomed after a recent typhoon.
>>131708 Rain Lilies, Texas Sage, Hydrangea
>>131704 It's really funny too because all of his arguments basically increasingly amount to "the Camarilla have wiped out hundreds of hunter conspiracies before!/they're experts at infowars!/the elders and Methuselahs would intervene to save the clans!/not even the Technocracy fucks with the vampires!" and then he eventually just devolves into impotent seething about HFY for some reason. Meanwhile all the people debating him just calmly point out that the Ordo Veritatis are a global spanning benevolent superpower with no centralized authority, have people in every position of power and then some, can instate itself in basically anyone because it's a set of memetic ideals dedicated to protecting reality and humanity rather than an organization, explicitly have psychic or supernaturally imbued agents of their own, would require all of humanity being exterminated in order to completely destroy due to the aforementioned memetic ideal thing and might still survive by subverting WoD supernaturals anyway, and that not even the ancient evil giga-conspiracy who run the world actually wants to risk the OV finding out about them in any way. That and if the Ocean Game is taken at face-value, the OV might literally be backed by an omnipotent being in some form.
>>131658 I mean, werewolves in that franchise are a metaphor for black people, so it's really not that surprising it took so long for them to figure it out.
>>131713 Has he resorted to One Giver EVERY HUMAN IS A SPECIAL FAITH VESSEL wank yet?
>>131710 Thanks, I was looking around a bit but results kept giving me rain gardens instead, which appeared to just be low maintenance flowers that subsisted on natural weather conditions. >>131711 You have cherry blossom trees in your back yard? Rad. Also thank you. >>131712 Oh, delightful. I'd probably use Texas Sage if not for the fact that it doesn't grow in Asia. Reinforcment of Rain Lilies and noting Hydrangea is really nice though. Thanks.
>>131625 Thanks Nice build I see you read the comic, or last the wiki
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>>131648 Reminder that Demons can actually use other Splats as their cover if they manage to form a contract with one, and this is their thoughts on using a Beast as one. >Beast: What would happen if I ripped off all your masks? Would anything remain? >Demon: What would happen if I make YOU my new mask? Would it even be worth it?
>>131715 No. He seems to be a turbo secondary, so I doubt he's even aware of that.
>>131716 >cherry blossoms Yep. Little bastards only bloom once in a blue moon, though. >>131718 >Burns the Beast cover >Everyone present is actually much more relaxed and at ease now the Demon is merely Going Loud instead of threatening to teach you a lesson
>>131715 Ooh, I don't actually remember that one. What is it?
Man, I hate when I'm playing a WEG for the first time and it's really addicting and then BAM. End of current content.
>>131722 And then they never update ever again!
>>131722 What are you playing Anon? I just the other day played the update to Summer In The City, it's pretty great
>>131721 It is less of a totally coherent idea and more of a recurring set of ones echoed in Mage and Demon. Check out Days of Fire where Lucifer talks about misplaced angelic gifts and God’s plan to resurrect after deliberately dying from smiting the fallen angels, the first explanation for the 10th Sphere in Ascension, and Demon the Fallen’s intro which explains why the demons thought the war against God was even winnable. Basically the concept of True Faith, which is alluded to in Vampire and Mage among others, is heavily implied to be literally the power of God manifesting through humanity. Hunters also get some extra powers from Messengers in their Time of Judgement scenario IIRC and technically the Kuel-Jin are actually not!Exalted champions of Heaven’s Chinese branch punished for iniquity that can POTENTIALLY reclaim their original blessings (or fall further, becoming Yama Kings. It’s only a theory pushed by one faction, but Mikaboshi was a mere human who ended up as the Yama King most likely to win the Demon Emperor’s throne), but technically that is less the peak of Human Wank and more a sidequest with rewards for being God’s most dedicated soldiers.
>>131725 This doesn't sound like it wanks the vampire.
>>131726 It might wank Golconda.
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>>131648 >Doing so immediately transforms them into their full robo-angel death machine form, raises their power stat to the max and unlocks SO MANY of the Splat's powers immediately. It's basically a nuclear button final form they can initiate whose only downside is that it ALSO calls enemy angels to the area who are NOT allied with whatever caused the Demon to Go Loud Are WoD Demons just an entire race of Goetias?
>>131728 Those are CofD Demons (oWoD demons have kind of less cool transformations in my opinion), but they do have that Demon Pillar thing of, "Pretending to be a normal human being before exploding into a crazy magic abomination when outed," going on.
>>131728 >>131729 Oh, and sometimes they have a lot of guns.
>>131728 They're robots, that transform, in disguise.
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>>131723 So many games...abandoned...like tears in the rain. Thankfully this dude has two completed games so I have hope. >>131724 TOXICity. It's by the guy who did Now & Then. Similarly, it's a kind of post-apocalypse where acid fog rolls in and traps you and a coworker inside a building. It's a slower burn like N&T (the first sex scene isn't until Chapter 3 or so), but I really like the plot. >Summer In The City Not a huge fan of femprotags, but it looks good. Glad we both found something we can enjoy.
>>131731 Some might call them... Changers.
>>131708 I am pretty sure plum blossoms do, though they're more famous for blooming during the winter.
>>131726 Well…no, it doesn’t because I was referring more to the impotent HFY seething part. Although in a way, Cain’s sin is mentioned to have instantiated the concept of violence allowing for angels and fallen angels to kill each other more brutally at all in Demon the Fallen for what that’s worth. So in a way, the vampiric curse is in fact powerful enough to set in motion the events that led to God’s death.
>>131735 >So in a way, the vampiric curse is in fact powerful enough to set in motion the events that led to God’s death. Nah, because the first sin came before the curse, which was the punishment for it.
>>131699 >A Thousand Li Nice to hear
>>131699 Thanks friend, worked hard on WA.
>>131717 >I see you read the comic, or last the wiki I read Black Hammer, Age of Doom, and part of Reborn. Unfortunately the website I was reading Reborn on has a bunch of broken chapters. Specifically, right when they get to the Farm.
In Dark Souls the Longsword is actually more of a Bastard Sword while the Bastard Sword is instead a Longsword.
>>131740 Bastard Swords are longer than Longswords and wielded with one or two hands. The Longsword in Dark Souls isn't long enough to be a Bastard Sword, and the Bastard Sword is too long to be a Longsword
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>>131701 >Annunaki ....what? They're a thing here?
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>>131698 Generic isekai, still working out my build though. >>131728 >Are WoD Demons just an entire race of Goetias? OWoD Demons used to be big humaboos, which is why I like them kinda.
>>131740 >>131741 Longsword is an informal category which includes bastard swords.
>>131742 Annunaki in CofD are basically """living""" alternate """worlds""" that don't exist floating in the abyss. They're defined by having histories or full on metaphysical laws that are antithetical to reality. Stuff like stillborn timelines are the most comprehensible, but there can be shit like realities where all levels of existence function in fundamentally wrong ways, like a nonsensical world where "Time" is a function of where someone is physically standing, and where thoughts are what think people. Whenever they come into contact with reality they retroactively rewrite that part of it with themselves, and if they ever """wake up""" the totality of existence gets replaced with the version they represent. Very few people want this.
>>131741 A longsword is (generally) a dedicated two handed weapon, the longsword you are familiar with in games isn't actually a proper longsword. Games just often call their one handed swords longsword because of old stupidity reinforced by habit. A longsword is called long because it's longer than just a typical one handed sword, which was historically just called a sword but some nerds today refer to as an arming sword for distinction. Similarly to how a shortsword is a sword smaller than a typical one handed sword. The Longsword in game, being a weapon with a hilt clearly meant to allow for two handed use but small enough that it still can be wielded with just one hand, is a hand and a half sword, more commonly called a bastard sword. A bastard sword is of similar size or smaller than a typical longsword in pretty much all cases. >>131744 Technically Correct! The best kind of correct.
>>131742 They're malignant alternate timelines/variations of the multiverse and its laws that want to rise up out of the Abyss and replace all of the Fallen and Phenomenal Worlds with themselves and their own aberrant symbology.
>>131745 >>131747 ...is the world as we know it the result of one of these things replacing a previous reality?
>>131742 >>131745 Also since you're a fan of the actual mythology, I'll mention that the reason they're called Annunaki is implicitly because Kish was ruled by Abyss-worshipping mages some time between 4,000 and 3,000 BC, which is why so much Abyss-related phenomena uses Mesopotamian phrasing. The most notable ancient Scelesti cults arose there, so when future academics looked back on it, they used Mesopotamian termonology and names that the cultists of then would have appropriated from mortal mythology to describe the horrors they worshipped. >>131748 Not exactly. The world as we know it is the result of a DIFFERENT retroactive metaphysics rewriting reality break. Specifically, A T L A N T I S
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My jumper in Generic Isekai is gonna be a high tier White Mage(think Aqua from Konosuba, but with even more access to DnD Cleric Spells), letting him perfectly heal injuries/diseases/status effets, revive hte recently dead, apply all kinds of buffs, take care of evil beings like undead an demons, summon angels, create protective barriers, counter other magic and some utility focused stuff like creating food and cleaning, stuff like that . Anyone got an idea for a fitting cheat to go with that, that wouldn't just overshadow the rest of the build?
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>>131750 Can never go wrong with a Ramen Cart. Heals and meals.
>>131748 No, the current Fallen World is entirely the fault of the Exarchs - who are an entirely separate brnad of reality cancer, a humanocentric (yet actively deleterious to continued human existence) and tyrannical one no less.
>>131750 Reduced mana costs. It's a simple cheat that'll just make you better than basically any other mage
>>131749 >>131752 Just curious, because if all it takes to change reality is one of them waking up and brush past reality then it stands to reason it has happened before.
>>131752 Can you really call the Exarchs deleterious to continued human existence when we're literally the only things actually stopping all the apocalypses constantly piling up on the Prison?
>>131754 They can brush up against parts of reality while "asleep" which causes more localized reality breaks that can be observed from the outside with proper temporal shielding. Them "waking up" is that happening to everything, all at once, so nothing is safe.
>>131754 The Exarchs and other Ascended (except for probably the Gate) are very, very strongly preventing the Annunaki from rewriting all existence in their image. The Exarchs themselves are afraid of the Abyss, because it's one of the few things that could utterly overturn their rule if it got a foothold and an Annunaki rewriting the Fallen World would kill them (or diminish them into total irrelevance) by rewriting or erasing the symbols that give them form. >>131755 >we're Fuck off Exarch.
>>131752 But hey, aren't the Exarchs kind of cool though? They keep humanity safe from eldritch horrors, and have some pretty cool perks for joining up with them. did you know that Seers who do a good enough job get to Ascend? For free? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
>>131757 I don't think it would kill them at all, but to "beings" of their nature, it may as well be as unacceptable a conclusion to them.
You guys ever start playing a puzzle game and then get conflicting feelings of being a genius and feeling actually retarded?
>>131760 I was not expecting to be out nerded at this time, but it is not unwelcome.
>>131761 Is that not what puzzle games are for?
>>131755 Look, at least do something about the Judges of Duat and I’ll call us even.
>>131763 Maybe? I got a friend who's really smart and always makes stuff like puzzles or mysteries seem trivial while I'm watching them go through this or that. I'll have gone through the same things myself and felt completely baffled or surprised and they'll just be like "Oh yeah there were context clues so I sorta just guessed what would happen."
>>131739 readcomiconline had everything and complete
>>131767 I like using Batcave myself
Had a dream where I was in a sort of mashed up DC universe. I was...not sure exactly who I was. I was a Twi-lek I think, who had some really, really fucky kinetic manipulation powers that were frankly on-par with a Kryptonian. I could absorb kinetic energy to nullify attacks, freeze things, release it to speed myself up or fake super strength, even fly and the like. The trick with it was that it was all very fiddly and took a good deal of concentration to use. Anyways. I was just kinda living my normal life, only to get caught up in a big showdown against some villain alongside the Teen Titans. I just...didn't really give a shit and kinda just effortlessly defeated the villain, then continued on with my day. I also effortlessly recognized Robin as Dick Greyson, and just kinda said "Hey Dick" while passing by because I seriously just didn't give a shit. He freaked out and tried to attack me for outing him, but I just kinda laughed off his attempts. Despite my desire to go on with my life without dealing with this shit, the Teen Titans kept a close eye on me. I got along well with Cyborg because-due to reasons in my backstory in this dream-I also apparently had half my head replaced with cybernetics much like Cyborg. There was also this cafe that I liked to go to, which was run by a supervillain couple-an elderly man and woman who apparently had some sort of criminal record but also liked to just cook and bake in their spare time. Great place, awesome muffins. Anyways. At some point, my uncle (in the dream) showed up, which a very, VERY similar powerset to mine. Similar, not the same; his kinetic manipulation was much more automatic and allowed him to absorb and release energy effortlessly, but he couldn't do temperature or super speed shenanigans. He also had some sort of weird immortality. My Uncle was staying in a hotel, and the Teen Titans were investigating him. I decided to help out on this one because I really, genuinely, utterly fucking hated the man. While Robin carefully went floor by floor, I investigated everywhere I could using superspeed. Robin just wanted to prove some sort of fraud so that my uncle could be imprisoned. I eventually explained to Robin that that was fucking stupid because he's been doing this for centuries, gave absolutely no fucks about the law, and would casually destroy the lives of anyone who got in his way; the only reason he was civil with other people at all was because he was lazy and didn't like to do things himself, so he got others to do things for him. Eventually I found the suite where my uncle was staying, and we got into a fight. The man was significantly more powerful in the moment than I was, but we were stalemating each other pretty effectively; I could punch and kick and throw things at him all I'd like, he'd absorb the energy and throw it right back at me, I'd absorb that energy and try something else, back and forth in a match of kinetic ping pong. At one point I tried to pin him under a couch-like, an entire couch used as a club-and he just sorta grabbed it and threw it right back at me. Eventually I got the bright idea to play to my own strengths; instead of throwing kinetic energy at him, I'd take it away; I started freezing him solid. This he didn't have an answer for, and soon I had him in a frozen pillar of ice, unable to move or act and the ice acting to insulate him from absorbing outside kinetic energy to free himself. This is when Robin wanted to have the man arrested, and he literally laughed and said he'd be out within a week. Instead of arresting him, I just...threw him out of the planet. With the sincere hope that one day he'd just stop thinking and be effectively dead that way, Robin reported me to the Justice League. A few of their members argued with me for a while, and I remember having a long in-depth discussion about things with The Flash. But I still just really didn't care for the whole superhero thing; the only reason I got involved that time was because I just sincerely hated my uncle and knew that no-one else could deal with him. Later on I visited a hospital for some reason, got to meet some of the CEOs behind various insurance companies, and was completely unsurprised to find that one of the CEOs was literally a demon from hell. Only one of them, out of several. I think I also got into some sort of yugioh duel, or an argument about what sort of powers were allowed in a yugioh duels, I'm not 100% sure. Then I woke up.
Why are there so many faggots who treat this thread as their personal dream journal?
>>131771 Because no one but you cares either way
>>131772 It's blogposting-adjacent.
>>131773 And no one but you cares
>>131769 Anyways, here's a custom quirk to represent the power that I had in this dream. Man I wish I could change my build to be a Nomu and have multiple quirks, but the budgeting simply doesn't work out. >Quirk: Kinetic Load >Tier: 3 >Components: Storage+Flight+Overclock+Impact Recoil >The user can absorb kinetic energy they come into contact with and release this energy into a variety of self-enhancing forms; super strength, speed, and flight all come quite naturally to this Quirk, but are by no means the limit of what is possible. The trick is that the Quirk has no mechanism to automatically absorb kinetic energy; the process is a manual one, requiring focus and effort to both absorb and store the energy. This means that attacks that the user knows about can be absorbed, but if struck from an unexpected angle or without warning they may face great danger. The Quirk also has upper limits of how much energy can be stored at a time, though these can be raised with training.
>>131754 I should probably mention that all mentions of them waking up is metaphorical language used to describe them potentially overwriting everything (usually, they only accidentally overwrite small portions of existence). Compared to some depictions of cosmic horrors or living worlds, Annunaki are actually completely decentralized rather than being coherent beings. They have no individuality, personality, intelligence, or even anything like a core or substance you can attack at. They're worlds, timelines, and alternate laws without things like self-aware guiding wills or vital parts that keep them living. Their "actions" are basically like automatic processes or the results of their weird occult natures, or the tendency of Abyssal things to act towards escaping the Abyss.
>>131771 To be honest I only really share mine if someone else asks others if they had any Jumpchain related dreams or if it's a completely out of left field one like the recent Shard/Generic Isekai one I had a few days ago.
I think I want to mage a magical version of netrunning, I could use astral projection to be the base ability, add a general info gathering spell, unlocking spells, wardbreaking, general affliction based abilities and general talk to people at range spells tied into the astral projection You guys have any suggestions for additions?
>>131778 In Mage the Ascension you can literally astral project into the INTERNET DIMENSION. Like, that's just a thing oWoD Mages do. It already has everything you want there.
>>131779 What about CofD Mages?
>>131779 I mean yeah and its pretty cool but I dont really know how it would let you mess with stuff thats not connected to the internet. My general plan is to make netrunning useful in someplace like forgotten realms.
What the fuck is up with the captcha on 4chan
>>131782 Captcha's the same length, but getting more complex in hopes of stopping bots. Probably not gonna work out for them.
>>131780 There's no internet dimension there, but mages can use some Forces to mess with the internet, and combining it with some other Arcana, use it to transfer spells over the internet. Yes, an Awakening Mage can download a car. >>131781 Your request sounded like you wanted to make netrunning that ran off magic, not something that looked like netrunning but without the net.
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>>131272 [Black Hammer] Drawbacks: Tier 1 NemesisX5, Favored host, Cruel Cosmic Irony, Story Erasure, Fatalism, Learning Resistant (4200) Rolled New World Para-Zone Traveller (+300, 3100) Sidekick Magnet (Free) Out of pocket powers (Free) Cosmic ConstantX2: Anti-Chaos (2400) Power Evolution (2100) Duplicate DominionX2 (1800) Main Character (1000) Superhuman training program (800) The Farm (Free) Gun (Free) OC Companion (700) -Team Player (Free), Secret Identity (Free), Golden Gail (+1500, 1200), Comic Book Physics (1100), Inspiration of the Golden Age (900), Power Evolution (600), The Farm (Free), Star children (0) “This is a waste of time” I declared. “What?! No! We should-“ began Elodie. “Do nothing” I finished, laying my multiversal ass down on the grass, ignoring the confused supers in the farm below us. Oh look, this reality had a Darkseid, I thought as the ghost of one loomed menacingly over me. It was impressive this reality had managed to kill theirs with relatively little collateral damage. Languidly I spammed Sacrosanct Soul Retribution, sending it shrieking and burning as it sensed the far more powerful E10 Solar Integrity Charms I had layered into the retributive smiting. “…what? No. No, people are-“ “I know exactly how this story ends” I said, shutting my eyes and letting the sunlight bounce off my face. “With a lot of very silly people once again crawling back into this rustic little box and learning nothing of value from this whole experience. The storyboards are done. The plot’s set. Can’t you feel it, Elodie? This world’s rejecting me” “That doesn’t mean we should just give up! What am I saying? YOU?! Give up?!? Are you hearing yourself!?” “Who said I have?” I said, eyes half-lidded. “Elodie, sooner or later the story will end. I’ve made preparations. Set something-someone, rather, in motion. Until then, I’d rather not fight a river that flows my way. Relax, kick up your feet. We’ll be here a while” 1/4 There is always a certain predictability to monomyths, I’ve learned. An ebb and flow that anyone with eyes to see can ride, like a surfer catching a wave. Here’s one: Beings in an ordinarily, primarily American world encounter a wondrous force beyond their comprehension. The force embodies many things, but mostly they know of it as “the shiny man from space who teaches people how to karate chop trucks”. Thus the superhero age restarts as if it never ended, in wonder and the inexplicable. People aspire to things. They stand starstruck. This has all happened before. One of the most influenced is a nebbish surfer before the marvellous magician Annataz bestows a wondrous transformation on her. She is insecure about her transformation mogging her hard-earned athletics until she comes into contact with the stranger visitor. She is empowered. She is inspired. She becomes STRENGTHMAIDEN, HEROINE OF THE BEACH! and gets vengeance on some bully who kicked sand in her face. This has all happened before. Perhaps, as is oft the case with intelligent men and impressionable young girls, they are more than just coach and athlete. Or perhaps not. It’s more important to validate homosexuals, in this one. So STRENGTHMAIDEN leads the new wave of resurgent heroes as powers are discovered, and STRENGTHMAIDEN also becomes the one to ensure cool heads prevail and overwhelming evil is punched. In the distant future, a Space Amazonian colony of admirers and distant descendants will assist STRENGTHMAIDEN in defeating SOL MALEFICUS, ENEMY OF THE BEACH, and also in rediscovering me after I am thought long lost. In short, the narrative weight of STRENGTHWOMAN’S inspirational legacy indirectly gives me a permanent foothold on the shape of things to come despite the story’s best attempts at relegating me as an obscure impotent mentor character.
[Expand Post]2/4 One of the most significant consequences of the event known as BLACK HAMMER ONE MILLION is the eventual CRISIS ON MULTIPLE NARRATIVES. Throughout all this I have been harrassed by the Crazy 5: A team of 5 different parodies of powerful chaotic forces from across the greater multiverse. Spark the Electric Jester! The Tanzanian Twister! Squeenctch, Lord of the Deranged (and known little dog-getter). The Smoker. And Deceasedbottom, the Assassin who’s an Ass. I suppose this is the part where I’m supposed to flail wildly at the quipping, speedrunning hyperactive lifeforms while they go “You’re lagging excessively!” or something, but instead our clash results in the arrival of STRENGTHMAIDEN and the LINEAGE OF MIGHT arriving to my aid. STRENGTHMAIDEN publicly calling out the Crazy 5 reveals them as fundamentally selfish, destructive individuals instead of the freedom-loving do-gooders they’re otherwise portrayed as, weakening their narrative, so while I can’t permanently get rid of them I CAN undermine there’s. There’s this whole arc where STRENGTHMAIDEN briefly becomes evil, corrupted by the chaos energy into WEAKNESSWAIF who sadistically uses the evil of superior brawn to oppress others instead of protecting sacrosanct self-improvement; as is tradition she goes through a makeover and acts more like a dominatrix. Eventually the ZERO GAINS crisis shocks her to her censes (she also becomes a cosmic ghost because reasons) and she enters an antiheroic arc before redeeming herself. And with THAT out of the way, I can turn my attention to the problem of Anti-God simply refusing to stay down. Taking inspiration from the Sonic allusions forcing their way into my narrative I concoct a STRONG PLAN with STRENTHMAIDEN: I send her to the past when Anti-God first invades right when Joe quits, then in the present I call in the Justice League from an adjacent dimension (yes really, there’s a canon crossover and everything) while I myself attack a future instance of Anti-God in the far future with the powers of a subsumed alternate worth of the hammer. It really just boils down to everyone going BAM, BAM, BAM on the big rock at different points of space-time, though. 3/4 And then, the crisis is over. I crush some nettles, and the Nettle Rite ensuring the permanent death of Anti-God in all possible realities itself is shaped into a Flower Rite against the writers themselves. Already strained by the pressure of my order spreading across all reality, the narrative cannibalises itself, trapped in a self-contradicting spiral of denying my existence but acknowledging that of my prodigy. The most plot relevant heroes of the bunch are briefly stranded outside time and space, between what appear to them as fluttering pages. … I’m there too. After some discussion and sagely life advice that mainly amounts to “you’re not really enjoying this, are you?’, they agree to re-enter history through a plot hole and go back to the farm. It is never really discovered why they lose their memories and powers a second time. There’s just like, a bunch of surreal watercolours and panel tricks before the story regains cohesion. There’s no more heroes. Just my pawn and retirees. . . . And then, I win. My powers manifest the 4th wall breaking abilities of another superhero, and using THOSE I gain the capacity to write my own narratives even without the capabilities I possess from other worlds. Well, if you can call them narratives. Mostly they’re just lawbooks and engineering manuals about how all reality has to be Metropolis done in the style of the Jetsons. Forever. “Hey, we did it! We saved the world!” said Jessica Simmons, formerly STRENGTHMAIDEN, executing a classic MCU superhero landing. “We did” I said. “You played your part well”. Her beaming, slightly flirty smile faded as she stared out at the mechanised world. “Wait…what?” “Saving the day. Your entire heroic storyline. I used your life of superheroics to destroy the system of adversity that created a need for superheroics” I informed her. Jessica stared out at the now mechanised, orderly world, feeling a strange sense of loss she couldn’t quite define despite still having her powers. She sat down on the beach, vaguely disoriented by a sudden end to all adventure. There were no more waves. “…I erm, believe I need a moment” she mumbled. 4/4
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>>131776 I want to ask about the Abyss but I'm not exactly sure how to phrase my questions. So I'll just give my questions in the most blunt way possible and hope that you/others get where I'm coming from with them. What exactly is the Abyss? If memory from previous similar discussions serves, I know that it exists between the Fallen World and the Supernal, but...what is it? Is it some sort of nonexistent realm? Primordial darkness? If I have a perk like Lord of Shades from Hollow Knight that gives me rulership over the Void and all nonexistent beings, would I be able to rule the Abyss/abyssal entities? Or are they their own thing that probably wouldn't be affected? Is it even worthwhile to try and harness the Abyss in any way, or should I just leave it be?
Whoever recommended Volcanic Age, this is quite good. It's pretty uncommon for Murim stories to have so many larger factions, but in this one the Murim Alliance is like one big group out of like four or five and the world is a lot more disjointed and chaotic. It's pretty cool.
>>131786 The abyss is basically a massive shitpile of broken realities piled up in the middle of the road between the mundane and supernal realms. You want to drag some magic down from supernal? Its gonna get smeared in that rotting refuse as it makes its way down. This is paradox. Its kind of like an infinite chaotic form of magical FUCK YOU MAGES in the between made from when the old archmages and normal mages built a magical freeway to the supernal and forgot to put support struts in the bridges so when it collapsed it all made a massive problem for everyone on the lower levels. However once you become an archmage you have built your own bypass around the worst parts and cleared away enough of the shitheap to drive your car through without issue so your magic works fine.
>>131787 Its one of my favorites. Im way behind though myself.
>>131789 I'm on chapter 72 and I'm definitely digging it so far.
>>131788 >>131786 Oh forgot it basically wants to consume or destroy everything and entities from it are all manner if fucked up. Like theres one iirc thats just a sapient construct made of hundreds of realities folded together. And theres a left handed path devoted towards going back in time to kill youraelf so you become a living paradox. Also there might be more mage towers down in there but its not spelled out that they exist, just a lot of hint hint nudge nudge I heard there MAY be another tower or more down there but I will never tell bullshit
>>131788 >>131791 So it's the cosmic trash heap caused by a lot of mage fuckery in the past, full of broken reality bullshit. It hates everything (and mages in particular), and it's full of fucky bullshit. Does it exist, metaphysically speaking? Can I rule over it as a Lord of Shades? Is there any benefit in doing so?

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I don't know if to buy a nation of anime elves, a nation of houtengenki elves, or a nation of Draph expies in generic isekai
>>131792 I dont even know, its there, it does exist, but its also kind of a non place but you can kinda go there and its alive but not. It doesnt make sense, its a massive paradox that breaks rules as a matter of course.
>>131792 >Does it exist, metaphysically speaking? It does not, no. Certain aspects of it are in fact suggested to have a hateful jealousy of things that do exist properly.
>>131785 Nice DC homage Shard Speaking of which: the final panels of that crossover event you mention try to suggest that access to the Para zone is something of high value for Mr. Myx I was under the impression that the imp already had all the powers that come with the Para zone Or am I mistaken?
>>131795 Oh it absolutely exists and you can go there via the astral. In fact anything you chuck into it dissapears forever.
>>131761 All the time.
>>131783 They are really, /really/ determined in doing everything except just fucking intervening against the shitposting.
>>131796 Thanks! >Mr. Mxy Oh it’s quite simple, it’s free real estate. Travel infrastructure, specifically. In context I don’t think Mxy values the para-zone or anything that could’ve come along with a lost traveller for powers per se; in the first place, 5D imps frequently value things like their favourite superhero over acquiring more power for themselves. Rather I think what he valued was an interdimensional connection of any sort to realities outside of DC. It’s been confirmed since Year of the Villain that the DC multiverse is just one multiple multiverses created by the Super Celestials alone. It’s not just Marvel that’s it’s own separate cosmology. So Mxy probably just wanted to come over and leave DC to wander other places. >>131797 I think he meant in a metaphysical sense which is what I was more getting at. The Abyss “doesn’t exist” in the sense that Nobodies in Kingdom Hearts don’t. Acamoths and gulmoths are horribly little nonexistence monsters that by their very natures run around fucking up things that do properly exist. Yes you can go visit the ocean that may or may not be some dead dragon’s bloodstains but well…jump in and you risk ceasing to exist.
>>131792 In terms of trippy metaphysics, no, it doesn't exist. In fact, the things from it don't really enter the world. It's more like they just twist local Ephemera into shapes that WOULD exist there, but don't. >>131794 >but you can kinda go there and its alive but not These are the Annunaki talked about earlier, specific stable (but immensely fucked up) worlds that float in stasis in the Abyss. >>131797 No, you're thinking of the Ocean Ouroboros, which is the Astral reflection of the Abyss, not the actual Abyss.
>>131801 Its weird, I mean it is basially corruptive nonexistence but you can target and call upon it with magic. It just may and probably will fuck you and everything around you up.
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You guys don't commit incest on your chains, right?
>>131803 I know people get hung up on the existence/nonexistence angle, but there's another that's being neglected. Both thematically and narratively, the Suprernal/Abyss parallel is the dichotomy between Truth and Lies. Nonexistence is one of the main themes of the Abyss, but it's equally equated with untruths. Metaphysically, the Abyss is a Lie.
>>131794 >>131795 >>131797 >>131799 >>131801 >>131802 >>131803 All very helpful, thank you. So perks that give you command over nonexistent things-such as Lord of Shades-SHOULD, in theory, give me command over The Abyss in Mage The Awakening. In theory. What could I actually do with such an authority, assuming it works? I would assume that the most basic thing I could do is basically nullify Paradox as a threat at all; if I rule the Abyss, then I can basically tell it to not get its gunk all over my spells, right? What other uses for commanding the Abyss are there? Would I be able to command the Annunaki-and if so, what would be the value of doing so?
>>131804 I have no family to do that in the first place
>>131805 I'm personally hung up on the nonexistence angle purely because I have a perk to command/rule over nonexistent things, and I want to know what I could do with the Abyss via said perk.
>>131792 >Does it exist, metaphysically speaking? It does not. Not really, anyway - the whole point of the Abyss is that it's a rotting refuse heap of all the non-possibilities for what shape the Fallen World could take, rejected because they're too alien and antithetical to exist. Even the Annunaki as we've discussed them are just the worlds dreamed up by the "actual" Annunaki, who are unobserved in their 'proper' state. Entering the Abyss in full would delete you from existence. >Can I rule over it as a Lord of Shades? No, because HK's Void and the Abyss have literally nothing in common. Trying to command it is very likely to turn you into something like a Qlippoth, walking gates to the Abyss through which any number of horrible Abyssal intruders or dangerous phenomena can pour out. They're the hollowed out husks of Mages completely consumed by the Abyss, barely aware, and also completely immortal. Incurring Paradox near a Qlippoth sucks you directly into the Abyssal Verge inside of their soul, escape from which is nigh-impossible. >Is there any benefit in doing so? Objectively none. The Abyss is complete poison to reality and allowing it to try to enter the Fallen could mean the end of all existence.
>>131788 >>131803 The Abyss was actually intentionally invited by the Exarchs when they sundered the Ladder. All this bullshit, every Mage's capacity to interact with it, all stems from that initial agreement, and the Abyss' tendency to try and fester and worsen ever since then. >>131806 >>131808 I'd like to inform you that there is a DIFFERENT void of hostile alien nonexistence called the Lower Depths, which don't exist in a DIFFERENT way and aren't related to the Abyss.
>>131810 The thing that always hangs me up is that even if it doesnt exidt, it still exists as a force that interacts with other forces and realities in a detrimental way. Like sure its a lie, sure its a non place, but it still exists in some fucked up way because its a paradox. It is both existant and nonexistant in the fact that even as a malicious non entity it can functionall still fuck you up. A lie may not be true but the lie still exists in some capacity even just in its untruth. This is one of the more metaphysical things I think could be "fun" to mess with in a game but my games all were nonstarters.
>>131810 Could you please elaborate on what the Lower Depths even is? This is the first I've heard of it.
>>131811 (me) Actually now that I think of it the wiki has a good line in it that kinda sums this whole thing up "The Abyss is incomprehensible for the mortal mind (logic, after all, is an element of Supernal truth) and the main enforcer of the Lie."
Would you say a human with Vermillion Oni from Fate/Japan would have similar absurd battle continuation or is that just an Oni thing?
>>131806 >What could I actually do with such an authority, assuming it works? Become a walking gateway for Abyssal Intruders. >I would assume that the most basic thing I could do is basically nullify Paradox as a threat at all; if I rule the Abyss, then I can basically tell it to not get its gunk all over my spells, right? You'd need to go through the Annunaki (or more likely the Gate) if you want to resolve the Paradox issue. >What other uses for commanding the Abyss are there? Replacing the Fallen and Supernal with lies, because that's all the Abyss is. A rejection of objective Supernal truth with lies. >Would I be able to command the Annunaki The Annunaki are entire Abyssal reflections of the Fallen World, anti-multiverses yearning to replace existence with themselves filled with their own anti-symbology. Unless you have something else to scale upwards, you're unlikely to be noticed by them. >>131812 Lower Depths are realms that are defined by missing one or more things that define the Fallen - generally speaking, they lack several of the Arcana (Space, Fate, Time, Mind, etc) and the Arcana as a whole have little influence over them.
>>131811 It's easier to understand when you think about how the only indications of its existence are relative to other things. The Abyss itself has no substance or internal reality, and when things "enter" from it, nothing is actually entering. Rather, a part of the world is getting overwritten with the pattern something that doesn't exist. Nothing actually comes in, a small piece of the world just twists into the shape of something that wasn't there before. Like, imagine a doorway through which there's nothing on the other side, but from your perspective things from inside still walk out of. It's fucking weird, and anything that "enters" the Abyss is frequently described as being trapped in eternal stasis, because there is no existence or change there. >>131812 The Lower Depths are a cascade of failing realities that are defined by their fundamental lack of some aspect of reality. Both metaphysically don't exist and comprise of theoretically infinite "worlds", but to sum up the differences >Abyss >Everything is put together wrong >Is corruptive and replaces the world with itself >Lies between the Phenomenal and the Supernal, the gulf is widening as both slip into it >Lower Depths >Something is missing, which might leave things put together wrong >Is hungry, and wants to feed on the thing it's missing >Lies outside of the Supernal, is dragging more of the Phenomenal into it Basically imagine a storm drain at the bottom of existence that's leaching abstract qualia from reality into itself. That's the Lower Depths. Yes, this setting is getting chewed on by two entirely separate nonexistent anti-realities. >>131813 Yeah, it's all Paradox. Literally. The books describe how the only two qualities the Abyss can confidently be said to have is that it lacks any qualities, and that's it's entirely paradoxical. Which are qualities. Which is a paradox.
>>131809 >>131815 If the Abyss in MtA is a nonexistent thing, I should have some degree of rulership over it as a Lord of Shades; I posted the perk itself earlier to highlight that. MOST of everything you guys have been telling me is that the Abyss is a nonexistent thing (and a lie) so I SHOULD be able to command it to some degree or another. But if not the Lord of Shades, what sort of void/abyss authority should one get in order to be able to command The Abyss? Additional consideration. Yes, the Abyss is full of horrible unrealities and lies and generally it's a terrible idea to actually touch that in any capacity. But lies can be useful in the right places and times. And having a reality poison on tap can be a very good thing if you're fighting things that have their own realities or the like. So let's say, for the sake of argument, I have a perk that lets me command the Abyss. What can I actually do with that? >>131816 Alright, so the Lower Depths should ABSOLUTELY be something the Lord of Shades can command. I think. What can I do with that (besides throwing things in the cosmic drain)?
>>131817 Nta and I know less than you but from what they are saying you can't control it because there's nothing to control, only a mass of horror that appears out of nowhere and holes in reality
>>131817 Have you considered playing the games or accepting what other people are telling you? Either or.
>>131817 The Abyss is the reason why Sleepers can't remember Supernal magic. It isn't because you need to be special to do so, but because the Exarchs bargained with the Abyss when creating the current reality to blind as many people as possible to their magic. There's a shard of the Abyss in almost everyone's souls, and it goes apeshit when exposed to Supernal magic, as per the agreement. If your method works, or if you found one that did, you could theoretically depower people and shit. The Lower Depths are honestly nothing but a parasite, and are heavily implied to be why the Underworld is such a shithole of an afterlife (because of their proximity). There really isn't much you can do but try to plug up the holes and hope it lets the world eventually heal. Or maybe use it to eat the shit out of meanies.
>>131803 The really weird part is that the Lower Depths are BENEATH the Abyss and considered even more anathema to mages/reality even though you can literally built a Legacy around communing with their denizens if you’re mad/desperate/masochistic enough. Apparently actually missing an Arcana is considered to be more metaphysically a lie/void of existence than “merely” being a broken and invalid facet of them. Well it was definitely so in 1e. 2e made individual Lower Depths more concrete places you can actually visit, just…weird, from lacking time. Or fate. Or matter. Or life (yeah that one is actually dangerous) >>131805 Also very true. >>131806 >What could I do? Yes, waiving Paradox due to being subsumed by Paradox is a canon “benefit” of using Abyssal magic as well as a potential boon by some Abyssal entities. Based on it, enhancing your magic with empowering but always corrosive and chaotic Abyssal substrate, befouling things or using befouled things safely and enhancing existing Abyssal things are all valid. It sounds like you’re trying to have your cake and eat it, and I think the closest example to that in canon is the Old Man. Who is an unqualified success. I would say if your ONLY power is to command the nonexistent but that command is absolute it…should be possible to cheat the Abyss in such a way you remain pure while wielding it’s power. But also that if it really is your only relevant power for dealing with it- -SOMETHING, somewhere, pays a horrible price. The Abyss never offers gifts in good faith. Everything is an act of mindless hate to drag reality down to it’s level so it can feel better. Anyway if I’m pulling for examples from my copies of Intruders and Summoners, other example services by the Abyss include: Ruining and cursing something otherwise inaccessible by conventional travel, bestowing Scelestus (abyssal) magic on another, insight into nearly any ordered system, providing knowledge lost by all conventional and most mystical systems, enacting acts of treason up to and including metaphysical oaths such as those sworn on the Supernal, the exchange of true names, infesting people with horrible self-replicating parasites/diseases that can potentially become independent dangers to mankind, creating a cursed tool that inspires someone to build eldritch technology, stranding someone in a horrific (thought not immediately lethal) otherworld, manipulating abstract systems such as information and numbers in a localised area (generally to make them worse or more chaotic, although see the caveat about being able to have your cake as long as SOMEONE SOMEWHERE gets eaten), exchanging true names, cursing entire bloodlines to ruin everything they touch and eventually degenerate into monsters, directly possesing people with Abyssal spirits that give them mutations which grant them spirit-like abilities, summoning a horrible thing that vaguely resembles a succubus and makes you feel worse for having used it, or annihilating specific targets. Maybe everything, if you’re lucky enough to wrangle the Mirror. Basically if it involves paradox, corrosion, degradation or devil’s bargain-type things it’s probably in the rank and file of the Abyss’ ballpark. >Can I rule over it as a Lord of Shades? I honestly don’t know enough about Hollow Knight metaphysics to say for sure. I CAN say that if we assume the perk “just” confers the normal ability of a Lord of Shades then…frankly it shouldn’t let you command an Annunaki. Because an Annunaki is like, the Abyss equivalent of a bunch of Lords of Shades mashed together into a horrific gestalt colonial organism. They’re things like the Prince of 1000 Leaves who is an entire evil history that wants to replace the regular one.
Actually anyone know of any perks to make it just so you always exist even if reality says you dont?
>>131786 I feel like that Perk only gives you control of the Abyss from Hollow Knight/the Abyss it gives you. Also, the Abyss in Hollow Knight (unless Silksong added lore that changed this) isn't really a nonexistence kind of void. If anything, it's more a primordial ooze and a seedbed of life. The Dark Souls Abyss is more of a direct parallel in that regard, and would be more fitting for it to control. That said, I'm not the Jumpmaker, that's just my impression.
>>131821 >>131822 Alright, thank you. That largely answers my questions regarding The Abyss. Given all that, I'm gonna agree that Lord of Shades probably isn't enough and I should leave fucking with the Abyss until much later when I have more ways to command nonexistent things/lies. And the Lower Depths don't seem really useful unless I want to toss things in the cosmic drain.
>>131825 For what it's worth, you can get a small measure of control over the Abyss by having a friendly chat with a certain kind old man.
>>131826 The Old Man seems nice and I remember talking about him before, but I also know that's a big ol trap waiting to be sprung so I'm gonna avoid asking for his help and istead look for perks and powers elsewhere that would let me have my cake and eat it too.
>>131823 Wait hang on I may already have something from being a vex
>>131817 >What can I do with that One of the most renowned examples of a Lower Depth legacy is the Cwn Annwn. They summon…things they call hellhounds (to be perfectly clear there is nothing hound-like about them other than that they can be sent to fetch and attach on c. they use as spiritual familiar to take literal bites out of reality in order to build a custom-tailored small and partially illusory otherworld. The other most well documented example is-oh god, this is going to confuse you so much because the Akathartoi make a genuine attempt to emulate conventional demonic attributes because they are sentient lies that gain power, or at least agency, in the phenomenal world from the propagation of stories about them which include the trappings of traditional demons. So THEIR powers are more conventional like turning flesh to silver, negating enemy magic including both sustained effects and instant spells, siphoning lifeforce with mundane attacks, selective immunity from a specific type of damage, a curse that instantly wounds someone when you are wounded, and good old fashioned hellfire (that hurts very very much by nWoD standards). If the Abyss is about the corrosion and violation of reality, then the Lower Depths are about metaphysical annihilation and consumption. Even if admittedly, it’s nowhere near as well documented.
>>131814 I'd say no, but you might get strong natural regen like Ciel(her natural one), which lets her literally come back from the dead as long as her brain is left whole.
>>131829 Okay so maybe there's things I CAN do with the Lower Depths. Also why do the lie demons come from the Lower Depths and not the Abyss, which is the plane of nonexistent lies?
>>131829 *on command >>131828 It works, yeah. The Vex are figuring out how the Nine work at an alarming rate despite Edge of Fate trying to powercreep paracausality with the Nine’s higher dimensional existence. Sort of. I mean, paracausality DEFINITELY works for compelling them to kill themselves but the cope is the gas giants apparently colluded with Maya.
>>131831 There are quite potentially a lot of lie-entities in the Abyss too, this is just a specific subset of lie-demons. The Abyss=rotten reality/Supernal symbols, the Lower Depths=places outright missing one or more. In the Akathartoi’s case what they seem to be missing is…well, existence. The Devil is also supposedly a rank 10 entity (the same level of existence and divine power as the Primal Wild, a living Supernal Realm, and the Ain Soph i.e. God) although he’s little more than a footnote for the peak of diabolical power. Though apparently he un-exists so hard that other pride-based demons want to emulate him.
>>131832 >Vex are figuring out how the Nine work at an alarming rate Destiny is future elder scrolls confirmed
>>131833 ...Well, alrighty then. I guess Lord of Shades might let me command Lower Depths beings a bit. But I should still probably get some greater authority over nonexistence/the void before fucking around in CofD.
>>131817 The best way to describe the Abyss to you is if the Excrucians in Nobilis were more horror-focused and far more upfront about the fact that they hate you instead of dressing it up in chuuni nonsense, polite endearments, or genuinely acting like spastics. If you lack the power to command things on the level of Excrucians, then you lack the authority to command the Abyss. As for Lower Depths, they're entirely about the metaphysical lack of a key element of existence which they try to consume to make up for its absence. Strictly speaking, they're all about consuming things they don't have so making use of them to remove shit is possible but risky. IIRC Duat and its Judges are considered Lower Depths entities and you /really/ do not want to draw the attention of those.
>>131816 >Yes, this setting is getting chewed on by two entirely separate nonexistent anti-realities. All the while is it simultaneously getting bullied by the Judges of Duat, who HYPER-EXIST (as if the Exarchs, Supernal Gods, Deathlords, Cthonians and Pangaean-remnants weren’t bad enough). And if you believe Dreams of Avarice may have created most of the setting and the divine beings within it, with the Annunaki being their stillborn siblings. If (and that’s a big IF given the lesser-than-Beast but still notable controversy of Mummy trying to assert it’s magic as the primal force of creation for the setting) you believe in Mummy’s cosmology, all life in nWoD actually comes from BULLYING, as in the Judges tormenting Sekhem (the primal form of divine energy/life) to compel it to take complex shapes. And the Judges, being lawtists, willingly tithe it with NO benefit for themselves to an entity called Ammut: Defined as the cosmic devourer as well as (by it’s own claim) the incarnation of Sekhem as a whole, reclaiming pieces of itself reshaped by the gods. To exist, regularly exist, in nWoD is to be metaphysically lower middle class.
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What options we got to make any cell act as any cell type at a as needed basis? I know slimes in slime tensei do that but I'm kinda looking for more options to negate the weakpoint for powers dependent on the brain like Cursed techniques and psychic powers.
>>131836 The Judges of Duat are weird that MAGES think they preside over a Lower Depth and THEY perceive the Supernal as just one of many subsets of divinity they created, became too hard to consistently control, and basically just started giving the cold shoulder to because apparently bullying a tiny percentage of the human population is more than enough to satisfy Ammut (and Apotheosis ceasing is apparently not going to make Ammut angry enough to beat the god holding her jaw open and bite down on all creation). And the mages never face any reprisal for this assumption because the Judges don’t actually want to do all that much with the world they tyrannise, just keep the specific wheels they care about turning and turning. Who is the Chad in his heaven and who is the soijack festering in a metaphysical favela is really a matter of perspective.
You think crafting perks would apply to consumables like potions or xianxia pills?
>>131837 >>131839 This hurts my brain.
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I have seen at least a couple of characters that can just go around eating light. One of the Silmarillion jumps even lets us copy Ungoliant for example, but is there any jump that has an option to eat the darkness? You'd think there would be if only on account of how much more there is to eat in comparison to light. No big deal if there isn't, I can just use one of the custom power options.
>>131842 >but is there any jump that has an option to eat the darkness? Fairy tail via shadow dragon slayer magic
>>131837 >>131839 I will note that the claims of Mummy's magic supersedes Supernal stuff actually has precedence, given Supernal magic has no ability to deny or revoke Utterances, even if they might be able to stop the sideffects of one once they trigger. So a Mummy can drop Meteors on mages with impunity. The Rite of Return was also THE biggest magical event in the setting's history and I don't think even Mages try and contest that - just decide the details of how it went down. And all these things are paid for by drawing from the Judges power. So make of that what you will.
>>131839 >>131844 Fuck it. I have a sincerely cursed request to make of you two. Can you put together a Loose Tierlist Of Existence for New World of Darkness? Something that jusst says >1: the biggest thing >2: the second biggest thing (arguably) ...And so on until we reach the least relevant faction at the very bottom?
You guys have any ideas for nonstandard godhood domains? Something you dont normally see but could be fun?
>>131846 Hear me out: Logistics. You're the god of Making Sure Things Are Where They Need To Be.
>>131844 >The Rite of Return was also THE biggest magical event in the setting's history It also forces one to contemplate the mental image of momentous, setting changing events such as the death of Father Wolf and at least one of the Maeljin Incarnae nestling inside his corpse bringing an end to Pangaea, the Old Gods of the Thistle cheating cessation of existence by simply willing themselves back from other timelines as what others know as the True Fae, the ever-encroaching gears of the God-Machine slowly spreading across reality, the shattering of the Celestial Ladder and the usurpation of the Supernal Gods- -and throughout this, 42 autistic assholes are completely ignoring it all and subjecting some poor souls from a long-forgotten empire to eternal job interviews. >>131845 The Biggest Confirmed Things are the known Rank 10 entities: The Primal Wild (a Supernal Realm), the Ain Soph (the Devil), and the Adversary/Lord of ILlusion (the Devil). There is no further elaboration on where they sit compared to each other, but if we assume they are roughly equivocal then they're all on par with the Supernal Realms: Hyper-real planes of existence that form the ecosystems for other hyper-real gods from the archangel Metatron to the Exarchs and their palaces themselves. The Second Biggest Confirmed Things in the system are, of course, Rank 9 beings. This is apparently the rank of demon princes, whatever those are, and the Celestines (the spirits of celestial bodies like the Earth, Sun and Moon). Concepts more fundamental and influential than the Aeons (embodiments of individual Arcana) and the concepts of fire and death in the more prosaic sense. Concepts that can apparently influence things on a cosmic scale-and it's made increasingly clear in Werewolf 2e that the far cosmos makes spirits VERY weird without a stable spiritual ecosystem provided by a planet. The Annunaki are, for what it's worth, said to sit at around Rank 9-10. Ranks 6-10 are all varying levels of godhood, with Rank 6 being the bare minimum for like-a Miyazaki-style divine river dragon. Rank 1 is the level of gremlins and other excessively minor shit. Ranks 2-4 denotes basically spirits operating son the level of scary folklore stories. Stuff like a swarm of rat spirits that can possess you and make you go on a killing spree, or an angel that can smash up a truck one-handed. Among the player characters splats Mummy and Demon are the ones who can flip out and kill armies if they don't care about consequences of precision while Prometheans are unwilling walking wastelands, Geists are long ranged telekinetics who can go ghost, and mages are humans with a very far shot at the big leagues. And I'm going to stop it here for two reasons. The first is that there are a LOT of unconfirmed things in the setting. We don't have an explicit description of what the God-Machine is, just that it's apparently powerful enough to potentially destroy the universe with a reality-eating maw of sorts if it ever feels it has to. We don't fully grok what happens to a mage who undergoes Ascension (other than they get very, very powerful. Powerful enough to have retroactive but subtle effects on all reality like the Corpus Author making all magic be in some sense alive) or a True Fae who succeeds at Wyld Transcendence. The second reason is that Rank IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE INDICATOR OF WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT. The entire mythos of the Atlantean mages is that they fought and won against the Supernal gods with their combined efforts and preptime. Powerful spirits can and have fallen prey to both mundane influence on their domains and supernatural corruption. And yes, in the right circumstances even player character splats can potentially bring down a god if they know enough about it's weakness.
>>131848 Frankly I have zero fucks to give about who would win in a fight. I just kinda want to know who the Biggest Dicks On The Block are, and where they GENERALLY stand in relation to one another. You've given me that much, though I would like to know where the fuck the Judges sit and what the fuck is even going on here.
>>131849 So, you remember what I said about unconfirmed things? Yeah. Mummy didn't even try. For what it's worth, I think they're probably sorta in the Rank 9-10 ballpark too. They're described in ways clearly far and beyond mere Arcana as concepts, but also their own religious reverences denote some kind of hierarchy among their kind-that, plus just as the Oracles are able to overcome the Exarch's influence, Sutekh (their brother) was able to command reality in defiance against them, letting all life to escape. Plus they didn't even truly create the world-there are even older gods in the Mummy mythos, Khepera and Atum, who have no bearing on the setting except to be the force that made the Judges and their dead siblings and Sutekh and the foundations for existence before the Judges defined life through suffering. And they're entirely occupied keeping that huge hungry bitch Ammut's damn mouth from shutting on existence. Oh yeah. Ammut.
>>131850 This makes me sad and confused. If you had to take a guess, who would be the Least Relevant Faction in NWoD?
>>131851 The wolves
>>131843 You got me there. That is a pretty good option. Thanks for pointing it out for me.
>>131849 Oh, and one last thing-wherever the Judges sit, they're UP there. There is an Utterance (mummy magic, name-based and Sekhem-based) that can wipe an immortal being from existence. This includes archmges. This was VERY controversial at the time. It is VERY rare for something to be able to bully the Supernal in nWoD. And it's said to be a mere facet of the Nameless Empire's full command over nomenclative magic, with which they could do things like wipe stars from the sky (remember what I said about Rank 9 spirits? YEAH. There's a reason why Mummy is one of the most powerful playable splats at chargen; they have to actually degrade in power to become something humanly approachable. And sane) but still keep the poor erased seething star around as a slave for their magics. Utterances are merely hand-me-downs from the Shan'iatu, demigods of the Judges who are essentially pieces of them given agency to teach humans how to become Ammut's supper. The Judges have never shown greater power than defining all life or mutilating their own kin. They don't have to. The only reason they're not a greater threat than the Abyss or Lower Depths (who are separated by difficulties in manifesting into reality) is that to an even greater extent than the Exarchs- -they WON. And the only part of their victory they feel the need to personally manage (the nWoD Mummy cycle of life and death) is exceedingly small and petty. >>131851 >Least Relevant I would've said Vampire a decade ago. But then Deviant came out so them, they're just humans with fucked up souls. >>131852 Werewolf at least has the credit of helping Father Wolf with his hunting, euthanising Father Wolf, occasionally dealing with eldritch interstellar spirits that are like horrific whale carcasses drawn to crashland on Earth as well as horrors like the Idigam and Maeljin Incarnae, and supposedly evolving into "predator bodhisattvas" with age although to my knowledge that hasn't been elaborated on.
>>131854 What the fuck. Question: what the fuck. No, I mean...what the fuck. Fuck it. Three questions: One: What (the fuck) is with Mummy magic; how does it work, does it have anything to do with the Supernal, or is it just its own thing? Two: (What the fuck) How does one get Mummy magic of their own (presumably without being slaves to the Judges or the like)? Three: What's the deal with the Judges; I only know what you're telling me, so I don't really know what they're doing beyond "something petty" and "keeping Ammit from slamming its mouth shut on existence". So what's that small and petty thing they're doing compared to their basically omnipotent power?
I guess I'll have to abandon the thread for the next few weeks lol. Sorry if I don't get back to you.
>>131856 Take care.
>>131856 Stay safe.
>>131854 Im pretty sure its a fansplat but I love the book thats all about the deep aether and space with a bunch of different old wod factions including werewolves and the technocracy building different versions of their stuff to explore the far outer reaches of reality.
>>131856 Take care & be safe out there
>>131857 >>131858 >>131860 It's not that serious, sorry if I gave that impression. I appreciate the support though.
>>131861 Does that mean you're gonna miss your promised halloween release?
>>131855 >One https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Utterance_(MTC) https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Sekhem_(MTC) It has nothing to do with the Supernal, being described as older by one of the line developers. And everything to do with life force, and true names. If Sekhem is the fuel, learning to speak it to accomplish effects ranging from transforming into a demigod, to conjuring an unearthly horror, to making yourself into a seletively corporeal fire is the engine. The most potent attainments after the Rite of Return (respectively Apotheosis and the Ascent) actually DECREASE the maximum amount of power a Mummy can ever wield. This is because this form of magic buys freedom from the Judges of Duat's endless judgements, and the cycle of death and resurrection Mummies are bound to. The mummy is forever a weakling as mummies goes, but metaphysically free. The Deceived (a particular subset of mummies who are hijacked by temakhs-pieces of the Shan'iatu I mentioned before) don't have this luxury because of the sheer incorruptibility of their Sekhem. Ascent/Mentaar instead shackles them to a different master: Fate itself. They basically become Counter Guardians for the inscrutable designs of Fate (and no, not the Supernal Fate Arcana. Not even Mummies understand well what Fate is, other than it seems to have...something to do with cosmic cycles), only materialising when they have a mission to do. Otherwise they get to relax in peaceful nonexistence instead of spending their afterlife being chased by a temakh pissed off at being shackled to a meatbag. (And that's why Mentaar the perk lets you keep your fully Mummy powerlevel) >Two That's the fun part! YOU DON'T! Mummy magic is 90% a poisoned chalice handed down by the Judges of Duat to ensure some mortal suckers would become Ammut's snacks to satisfy their lawtism. The remaining 10% is sponsored by Sutek (a former peer to the Judges who despised their cruelty, and was consequently blinded, castrated and otherwise rendered impotent by them) who is the guy that enables Apotheosis, and possibly Ascent, as part of the principle of life escaping suffering. He's Mummy Buddha. >What's the deal with the judges The small and petty thing they're doing is making Mummies. The only reason why the Nameless Empire and Mummies even exist is because as I said, when Ammut was about to eat the world a god stopped her. But the Judges, the descendants of that god, were cruel AND law-abiding bastards in their own right who made life exist by torturing Sekhem. So when Ammut went "Hey man I was here first, I deserve my cut" they were like "oh okay sure, that seems reasonable, let's go MARINATE SOME MORTALS IN OUR POWER SO THEY CAN DIE FOREVER AND EVER, FEEDING YOU MINUTE TRICKLES OF SEKHEM even though our dad is holding open your jaws" Whenever a mummy dies, his soul splits into vaguely Egyptian themed components and he travels an afterlife desert to stand before the Judges. They commence something between an intense interview and a religious experience on par with God yelling at Job where the very soul of the Mummy is scorched. One of their soul's pillars eventually stands up to the Judges due to minute amounts of Sutekh's power letting it hold together. After an arbitrary amount of interrogation, the Mummy is allowed to be reborn. This may be hundreds if not thousands of years later. They are always mindless shamblers with the power to scour entire armies when they first wake up, and loser power as they become more sentient, and eventually die again to be judged. The Deceived as I mentioned have a different deal: The Shan'iatu tried and failed to usurp the Judges for the same reason Darkseid failed to usurp the Great Darkness (the Judges just looked at them and went "you are literally part of us, fuck off" and sent them into the metaphysical cuck sheds). So instead of the dignity of having your every thought and virtue scrutinised, the Deceived dying just results in their temakh (the Shan'iatu demigod shard angrily chasing around their human part until eventually they sorta get tired and become one being again. This happens forever. It's even suggested it will keep happening if the Mummy can't escape the Judges, and will just be reborn as part of a posthuman civilisation or something. Note that the Judges have shown no sign of actually wanting to destroy the world, or killing their dad Atum (who likes Sutek better). They are dogmatic petty tyranny incarnate.
>>131862 No. It just means I am avoiding day 1 spoilers on a 100 hour game, which I woke up to today. Like I said, it's not that serious.
>>131863 >NWOD Mummies God, and the fuckers are literally the benevolent "I'm gonna put what's left of me in your broken bits, then we can go to therapy" faction in OWoD these days.
>>131864 Ahhh, okay. ... What game is it?
>>131866 Time Stranger
>>131855 Also as I mentioned, the LARGE and petty thing they did at the dawn of time was create life by tormenting Sekhem with their gazes. To a degree even Atum acknowledged it was necessary for the universe to have a point, even though it made him very very sad to see life only come into being because the essence of the gods was being tortured. It's unclear if they're STILL doing it; after the initial creation of life the Judges don't really get out much except to torment relatives. But the Judges are, fundamentally, the reason why there is suffering in the nWoD at all. >>131865 Like Changelings they got a bit harsher in oWoD, although all things considered they're still one of the less awful supernatural splats. If nothing else, Ascension actively incentivises them giving up the whole god-king LARP some of them do to cope with being glorified sacrifices to the eternal hunger of the Sekhem Hunger Blob.
>>131867 Oh, cool. I didn't know that got released. Thanks anon
>>131847 So diet god of fate>
>>131868 Nta but could throwing them in the abyss kill them permanently?
>>131871 The mummies?
>>131863 ...This confuses me on a deep level. >>131868 ...Nope, still confused. Do we have a jump for NWoD Mummies?
>>131874 >...This confuses me on a deep level. >...Nope, still confused. I shall save Shard the trouble and say you understand.
>>131874 >Do we have a jump for NWoD Mummies?
>>131871 Never been tested. No information available. If you believe Mummy lore though, it would basically take an Annunaki waking up and being conscious enough to go "FUCK THAT ONE MUMMY, THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY, IN PARTICULAR, I AM DIVINING HIS TRUE NAME AND EVERYTHING WITH MY FUCKED UP GOD ABORTION POWERS" to interfere with the Rite of Return. And that otherwise, there is a non-zero chance the Mummy will simply reform out of bits of Abyss only to suffer intensely some more. >>131874 GenericAnon made one, yes.
>>131863 So you are saying that we should find sutekh and heal him up?
>>131877 And how would a demon who buy the identity of a mummy work?
To be honest all this really just makes me want to roll up and steal the solar system and let ammut eat the rest
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>>131811 I don't get what's so hard to understand about nonexistence wanting to put you in a chokehold.
>>131875 I don't understand anything... >>131876 >>131877 Cool, thanks. Gimme a minute to read through and get even more confused.
>>131881 Its not an issue of motives, its an issue of terminology. If it doesnt exist it cannot effect other things because it does not exist. Therefore if it has an effect of other things it must exist. And yet it specifically does not exist and never existed. Because it is a paradox and paradoxes make me mad unless Im the one breaking other peoples brains with them.
>>131882 >I don't understand anything... That’s the spirit!
>>131879 As far as I know there are no clearcut rules for what happens. It's worth noting though, that Demon itself notes that Covers simply don't work on Qashmallim because they perceive souls, not "masks". Conversely, I've heard it semi-officially said on the forums that demons don't have true names. Demon is really quite outside context for everything else in the nWoD. I don't perceive a direct conflict with the Rite as known, at least. The Judges don't mind their subjects suffering, they just don't want the Sekhem train to stop. >>131878 That would be nice although by his own account Sutek is already quite happy being a consciousness just kind of floating around in all of the Sekhem giving all beings with life the conceptual impetus and possibility to escape suffering. Though he'd probably quite appreciate having whatever passes to a body for a god to get back to telling the Judges to stuff it.
>>131885 Do you remember if princesses have an embassy for mummies?
>>131886 Not one listed as an example in canon, no. Frankly if they COULD make one, the Embassy would probably be dedicated to Sutekh (and maybe Atum, and Anpu) specifically due to the sheer concentrated fucking boomer malice of the Judges towards all life.
What would be the best/most interesting settings to introduce CREAM to?
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On a scale of 1-10, how interested would people be in a Jump for The Suffering?
>>131888 Marvel?
>>131888 Marvel?
>>131889 I remember playing the second one on PS2. Seems neat
>>131838 Aberrant had a mutation for that.
I kinda want to make a jump for a shitty old 2011 movie but I have no idea how to do it.
>>131665 Meanwhile the Leviathans, descendants of the literal actual primordial monsters that instilled fear into humanity in the first place, being relentlessly bullied by existence for all eternity because their grandma lost a fight in the cosmic parking lot:
>>131895 Awww poor girl
>>131894 I think in time would work better as a gauntlet.
>>131897 Personally I hate gauntlets. I hate the idea of gauntlets. If you want to do a gauntlet I feel like you should just go do a standalone cyoa and not try to bother about shoehorning it into jumpchain
>>131898 I like gauntlet scenarios that take place after the jump is over. You keep all your purchases from the jumpm but nothing else and have to complete the scenario to get the rewards.
>>131894 Just make the central time currency thing a freebee. Admittedly removing that from the equation leaves you with a pretty bland 2010s action movie, but people have made Jumps from less.
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>>131761 Yes actually, Sometimes the hardest puzzles I solve easily, whiles some of the easiest ones have me staring at it looking like a drooling retard
>>131852 Uratha have to deal with ahit like the Hosts, Pure, Maeljin, Idigam, Geryo and void spirits. They are very, very relevant. Deviants are the most irrelevant like Shard said - especially because they came out at the tail-end of Chronicles lifespan.
>>131898 I can understand some people hating Gauntlets, but I'm always surprised by how few people actually like them. I think it all comes down to whether you can view your Jumper's personality and experiences as equally significant as their powers. Have they been through similar experiences that would help them solve their current predicament? How do they react to the absence of the powers they've grown so reliant on? Will this humbling experience impact their ability to relate to "lesser" beings in future worlds? I feel like there's ample story potential if one is willing to see their Jumper as more than the sum of their Perks. That's just my opinion, anyway. There's no "wrong" way to run a Chain as long as you're having fun.
>>131798 >>131901 I picked up Blue Prince recently, and the game has me actually getting sick from trying to consider variables and clues. After needing to backtrack through context clues what the date was in order to overcome one particular puzzle the reward has left me entirely baffled. I feel like I'm making good progress, but also have no fucking idea where this is going.
In the mechanicus jump, it says that we can buy a titan legion but its only one purchase, or can we buy more than one?
>>131903 I like them. They are a challenge difficult but not impossible and often reward creativity
>>131272 Neat, a new Superhero jump for my chain. Thanks.
>>131793 A nation of all 3 coming together to work together
>>131904 >I feel like I'm making good progress, but also have no fucking idea where this is going. My only advice, My dear Nubee, is to stop thinking and go with the flow, because some puzzle games try to stump you or burn you out by over thinking
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>>131905 Forgot image
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What would happen if a human child willing to open their Heart to DARKNESS appeared in the Digital World?
>>131911 They become a pawn to one of the Demon Lords in short order.
>>131804 I like to go drop in. Does banging a pair of twins count as me committing incest or them doing it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGv4V7bFvJc
>>131840 If you can make them, then crafting perks should apply. >>131846 Sushi
>>131903 I really like gauntlets, but I will admit I treat most jumps as standalone CYOAs. two of my favorite jumps are gauntlets.
>>131903 I love the thrill of the challenge,
>>131586 Maybe use it as an excuse for an off-beat start like 10 gauntlets ending with Doki Doki Literature Club or PokeRogue to bring those folks into jump 11 since the former only grants them to you through a bonus objective for gauntlet completion and the latter doesn't let you capitalize on recruiting them until post-jump since they're stuck in their own isolated slice of spacetime (and limited state of existence) until you leave the gauntlet. >>131903 I feel like they just kind of highlight some of the more contentious bits of jumpchain CYOA design/intent as a consequence of their own structure relative to the norm. Like, it makes sense that they don't -chain in from previous jumps, but doing that places more importance on them needing to be able to -chain out to future ones since otherwise it's hard to justify investing effort in making a build/visiting the gauntlet. Similarly, it's weirdly more insulting to fail a gauntlet than it is a jump (not that anyone realistically entertains the idea of doing either for a chain outside of being contrarian/honoring a more comprehensive rollchain); with a failed jump, you just game over and there are no more choices to consider, with a failed gauntlet you've effectively wasted time both in-story and from a meta perspective since neither side gets to meaningfully interact with that build and all you have to show for it is a glorified editor's note/offhand anecdote whenever it comes up later - and with a built-in scapegoat of blaming the lack of prior resources instead of any skill issue(s) unrelated to what was missing or just a string of unfavorable odds. So all that can easily encourage skipping out on gauntlets or falling into that shopping list syndrome and not engaging with that setting beyond the build because of the limited amount of prep a jumper can do for any given gauntlet, the failure conditions having less emotional justification/closure (even if they are much more forgiving mechanically), and the rewards and their connectivity after all that often being markedly less than those of a normal jump of similar challenge range and build cost. But I still do like the idea of them; I just think they need to work a bit more at making the stuff you walk away with play nicer with whatever you've either already got (once the gauntlet's over) or intend to pick up immediately after so they actually manage the chain part of jumpchain better.
>>131855 >One: What (the fuck) is with Mummy magic; how does it work, does it have anything to do with the Supernal, or is it just its own thing? It does not. Utterances are entirely separate from Supernal magic and cannot be messed with by it. >Two: (What the fuck) How does one get Mummy magic of their own (presumably without being slaves to the Judges or the like)? You don't :) The Judges very much hate you and want you to suffer on your way into Ammut's jaws. Utterances and everything like them are a curse.
>>131856 See ya, WoL.
>>131911 well, last time the kid declared himself emperor, and started building dark rings and towers that enslaved digimon to his will, which he used for his own amusement.
>>131903 >but I'm always surprised by how few people actually like them Negativity bias runs strong. People are much more likely to point out how they hate something or how something is bad than they are to say that they like it. It's only when someone says something like "No one likes X" that you will get people popping up to say they like it.
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>>131905 Pretty sure you can buy more than one the wording implies it >"Post-jump, any titans you've purchased can be called forth to serve." >any titans Although it'd be really expensive for any non Collegia Titanica origin given it's a stupid 600CP for a Warhound or a full thousand for the Warlord or Reaver class upgrade. It's also sad there's no Knight option.
>>131922 >It's also sad there's no Knight option. It's honestly weird that none of the Warhammer jumps have Knight options
I realized how much I'm becoming a supervillain, visualizing the protagonists finding next a secret lab a pocket dimension where numerous faceless mutated monsters and soulless constructs take care of two childrens.
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>>131923 I think Governor jump has one, or it's an option for your planet to be a Knight world. Might be one in the Black Crusade army builder but yea it's pretty shit we don't have an option to buy a Knight. A freeblade jump would be pretty cool
>>131925 Neither of those have options to get one, unfortunately. I went looking back when I first saw a lore video on those fuckers
>>131926 Governor does have the option to get a knight house, also a full titan legion which should have the ability to produce knights. At least most houses did at one point have the STCs to make the knights its how they survived the age of strife Knightly Strongholds (-300/400/500 points): This world is home to a powerful Knight House, an ancient and noble dynasty of warriors who have devoted themselves to the service of the Imperium for countless generations. They are the honoured scions of the famous Imperial Knights, towering war machines whose destructive capabilities are second only to the larger Titans. Each Knight is a marvel of engineering, constructed from a combination of rare metals and advanced composites, and powered by a self-contained plasma reactor. These ancient battlesuits are capable of unleashing devastating barrages of firepower from their long-range weapons, and are equally dangerous in close combat, where they can crush their enemies with their immense strength and powerful melee weapons. Lesser House (-300 points):This House has a small but formidable force of Knights stationed on the world, comprising about two dozen machines. These Knights are mostly from the Questoris and Armiger patterns, such as the Errant, Warglaive, and Helverin, and are used for patrolling and protecting the house's lands. Despite their small numbers, they are a force to be reckoned with and can provide valuable support in times of war, making them a valuable asset. Noble House (-400 points): The Knightly presence on this world is now considerable, with a significant detachment of the towering war machines stationed here. The Knights fielded by this House are typically from the Questoris, Cerastus, and Dominus patterns, such as the Crusader, Lancer, and the Castellan.These Knights are a formidable force on the battlefield and include a mix of common and rarer patterns of Knights that are more powerful and better suited for frontline combat. Great House (-500 points): This world is home to an elite host of Imperial Knights, a powerful force of the towering war machines that have made this world their base of operations. Their forces include the heaviest and rarest Knights of the Acastus pattern, which are reserved for the most important battles and the most skilled scions. When they march to war, they are often the centrepiece of a House's force and equipped with devastating weapons such as the Twin-Linked Magma Lascannons of the Knight Porphyrion or the twin Conversion Beam Cannons of the Knight Asterius.
>>131924 As a guy with necromancy, I can see this. I just want to summon armies of the undead to try and fix problems, bu people just scream and run away. It might not help jumper's case that he did technically buy a child to raise due to her power would kill basically anyone not him. He did give her real parents some millions as a payment.
In Bleach is there a way to use Soul Reaper powers without being stuck as a soul?
>>131903 It just always feels like if you wanted you could just do a jump and put a powerloss drawback or gauntlet mode in withour needing to make it a gauntlet.
>>131929 Not as far as I'm aware. Even Ichigo with all his cluster fuck hybrid powers has to leave his body to do stuff.
>>131929 The jump offer it as a 100 cp perk for fullbringers, canonically not
>>131894 Pick three characters, the MC, the antagonist and the main secondary characters (the love interest usually, but sometimes a mentor), try to make four perks based on their skills/powers/particular feats. If you can't, are there similar character you can use to make perks? minions of the bad guy, organizations, other secondary characters. Then try to make perks based on the setting or any character leftover for Drop-In, maybe even something that isn't directly from the movie but might be useful, like being immune to a zombie plague in a zombie movie. Try to make at least 2 100, 2 200 and 2 400 CP items. If you can, do more. Same with drawbacks, at least 2 100, 2 200 and 2 300 CP, but if you can, do more. If you can only think of three drawbacks, throw in "No powers" "N warehouse" and "Amnesia" those fit in every setting.
>>131924 Thats why you keep your lairs remote and teleport in. My test tube monsters are all for the betterment of mankind, my undead are merely the recycled corpses of failed experiments, the cloned superhero corpses were never alive to begin with and are merely used for material and biological study. I mean hell cloning superhero skin in sheets to be used as plating on my vehicles just makes sense from a durability to weight ratio.
>>131928 At least only random good-natured solar would care more about my creatures than about me sheltering a solar and a lunar >>131929 I think Ichigo's shinigami power was fused with his fullbring, and a fullbring is usable in the physical body. It's also true that wasn't his actual shinigami power but rather the quincy power cosplaying as it.
>>131871 No, not unless the heavily specific scenario Shard outlined were to occur. And even then, the very nature of the Rite of Return might enable them to survive. The Judges were very seriously treated as the "You do not fuck with this" faction of Chronicles for a reason. Virtue of being grandfathered in as bigger and badder than everyone else, with only Ammut sitting beyond them. Even the Exarchs, who generally define everything wrong with the Tellurian and explicitly have a drive to bind and enslave gods who aren't already on their payroll, can't do much else beyond seethe impotently at the Judges - who probably don't even know who they are.
>>131936 I don't know anything except from wha is in the jumps, but do the exarch ever react in any way to the judges
>>131937 The Exarchs don't react to things in general, beyond fearing the Gate and the Abyss. We 'know' they don't like things not under their thumb, but not in any defined way - thry are very much moreso symbols of Tyranny and suppression than they are actual acting beings. In this way, they're very similar to Annunaki in that they're simply too big and nebulous to have concrete intelligence. In fact, it's unclear if they're actually Ascended archmages at all or if they were always symbols of human tyranny.
>>131932 Ichigo’s son seems to have figured it out though.
>>131927 The problem is that ruling over a Knight House doesn't actually mean having an actual Knight. Those things are lineage locked
>>131939 Kazui shouldn't even have a zampakuto, he's very strange
>>131939 Kazui is an absolute oddity.
>>131408 I've been very tempted to add both Divine Trials and Apodaimosis to my Chain. They both more or less work as is, and fit nicely into the lewd Overlord thing my Jumper has going on. https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gd3wr4j2 https://imgchest.com/p/na7kdezbq48
>>131939 Kazui is a walking talking glitch in reality.
>>131935 >>131931 A shame that. >it was his power but was in fact another power pretending to be that one Sometimes I forget how Kubo Bleach was. >>131932 Nice. Just what I need. Thank you.
>>131944 It's because he's a souless ginger, his power had to default to his physical body. The only reason Ichigo avoided the same fate is his hollow half had white hair and thus had half a soul. If Ichigo was born with any other hair colour he'd have been twice as powerful.
>>131943 Thats honestly pretty cool, ton of work went into that
>>131911 Gets possessed by analogman, Voltobautamon or a spirit of the dark area
>>131948 >pic This digimon has especially large tracks of land.
>>131943 Apodaimosis has a jumpchain conversion.
>>131850 >>131863 Something to add that Shard didn't mention; all the unjust suffering the Judges perpetuate to produce Sekhem and feed Ammut? All the pain and torment that is maintained to keep her maw open enough for existence to continue? Entirely pointless. The compromise made with Ammut is entirely secondary to her actual desire (eat existence) and she has no issues pursuing said desire beyond the terms of the bargain struck, and ultimately, the bargain is utterly meaningless. At any point if Ammut wanted, she could close her jaws and eat everything without a care and there's not a damn thing anyone could do to stop her. The Sekhem flow is simply an incentive given to convince her to NOT do that, but it's neither a deterrent nor something actually capable of MAKING her stop. Nothing can. All Sekhem does is act as a tasty and flavorful treat to an otherwise bland dish, which she still intends to swallow whole. The Judges basically sold the souls of innocent people to Ammut for no reason and Ammut has just been sitting there reaping the rewards whilst everyone with a fucking brain and awareness of the problem knows it's only a matter of time before we all get eaten.
>>131888 Dark Souls. Age of White Sticky Stuff - utopian era of Things Going Well, No Tears Whatsoever.
I still don't understand why it's called Stay Night
>>131953 Because the HGW only takes place at night.
>>131954 But they constantly do shit in the day
>>131951 >there's not a damn thing anyone could do to stop her Wasn't their father holding her jaw open?
>>131953 Because it's words in a foreign language that sounds cool
>>131951 Argent, I know nothing of the setting but do you realize you are making them look better? If selling her souls is an incentive to make her not eat reality there's a point, and an even pretty important too, compared to Shard's portrayal where the father of the judges was already stopping her from doing that and so their only reason was lawtism.
If anything, all of this makes me think that oWoD might be geniunely less fucked than NuWoD.
>>131947 Yup. It's good stuff. >>131950 >Apodaimosis has a jumpchain conversion Yeah, but it's one of those shit Reddit conversions that gives you everything from the CYOA for free and then adds a bunch of OP OC shit on top of that you can buy. At that point I'd rather just use the CYOA as is until if/when someone like Witchanon makes a better conversion for us.
>>131955 yeah but they're not supposed to.
>>131956 >>131958 Atum holding her jaws open does not stop her from snapping down (and going by Dreams, Atum might have /literally/ just given the world over to her because of the Judges gazing at and inflicting suffering upon everything). The only reason she's held off on biting down is the Sekhem that she's being tithed and that's entirely at the behest of the Judges lawtism. Even then, she's /still/ slowly eroding existence and taking more than the bargain that was made - the Judges are simply too law-obsessed to realize that they've made a deal with an entity that cares not for laws or oaths made with it. Ammut is literally just extorting them to get good food. As soon as the chefs no longer pass muster or when she's eaten the last chef ever for all time, that's it.
>>131953 You made me search and I found on reddit multiple people who says it comes a meaning of stay as still, static wich should have been the first part, while the second part, fate other night, was the Sakura and Illya route.
>>131959 I'd disagree with you because the apocalypse was supposed to happen in Y2K, but apparently they retconned that happening when they finally abandoned NWoD and went back to OWoD
>>131960 >gives you everything from the CYOA for free IIRC, that was optional? But either way, fair enough.
>>131963 So the title doesn't reference the obviously best route? Weird
>>131953 Supposedly, the name predates the game. It was apparently the name of a bag of Kara no Kyokai and Tsukihime merch they gave out during a con
>>131964 There is like twenty various apocalypses supposed to happeen in Y2K, but most of them are face-punchable by sufficiently plucky team of Mages, or resolved through plot-contrivances. Even Grandmother stuff. Ammut sounds like shit's just hopeless, period.
>>131959 I just want to be a cute feesh without jobbing to human warrior cock, malding into an unstoppable force of destruction, or becoming divinely woke and losing all of my conceptual agency. Is that too much to ask?
>>131962 Again Argent, I don't get how you explaining them doing this is actively prolonging reality would have made me dislike them more. You keep emphasizing how they're foolish for thinking this will hold her back, and with the next phrase explain how this is the only reason she's not eating reality.
>>131962 If it's like that I must agree with >>131958, if the option are she take a bit more than what she's offered or she devour reality with nothing or noone capable of stopping her they have saved the world for a really low price
>>131969 In one jump, apparently yes. You can add OCP shit on top from elsewhere, if you wanna.
>>131968 Gonna be honest, the only actual apocalypse scenario I know of is where god has Cain kill everyone on the planet and the Demon players have to go against him
>>131966 If anything, again from what I can find, Stay night is also a pun in the fate route with Stay Knight, referred to Saber >>131967 Yes I found that too https://i.imgur.com/7mHAq.jpg
>>131973 The one where it is impossible to win?
>>131973 I don't remember that one ngl. Oh well.
>>131970 >>131971 The point is /this is not stopping her from eating reality/. At all. Nothing is preventing her, nothing is slowing her down - existence is still succumbing to entropy, oblivion, the Abyss, etc. All things that at the end of the day, come back to Ammut. The only thing that the tithe of Sekhem provides is a burst of flavor, a novelty she indulges for the thrill of it. When the novelty expires (and it will), the world gets crunched anyway even if Atum was never there in the first place. The tithing does not matter. Existence will end without it just by Ammut passively existing because of what she is. And even with the tithe, it does not stop her from biting down or even make her decide "maybe I should retract my jaws from existence" because she does not CARE about the Sekhem ultimately; it's secondary to her true desire of eating everything and as soon as she no longer cares about milking the Judges because it's funny, she bites down and everything ends. There is no rhyme or reason to her not eating reality other than simple indulgence and boredom.
>>131977 Sure, but you just explained how nothing can possibly stop her, meanwhile maybe because she find them funny, but she still hasn't realized her only wish of eating existence. You just explained how that world was 100% doomed with no chance of salvation since it was created and yet it's still there. Sooner or later she will bite but they are the only reason that moment isn't ages ago fro what you are saying
>>131977 But Ammut would have ALREADY eaten reality if they didn't feed her.
>>131978 Like three different messages mixed in this abomination
>>131970 >>131971 >>131977 And I seriously need to emphasize that the only reason why the current system is in place is because of Sutek, not the Judges. The Judges not only created Suffering, but their original intent was to feed half of all life ever to Ammut per her going "give me my cut" without ever questioning the intent behind her requests due to their lawtism. It took Sutek coming in, calling them gullible fucking retards, and creating Will to create the current situation where people have to CHOOSE to let the Devourer take them and where the flow of Sekhem back to her is kept to a 'reasonable' amount. The Judges acquiesced to this, but as soon as Sutek could no longer defend himself, they literally tortured and ripped him apart. If the Judges had their way, reality would just be a mass factory farm for Ammut. The only reason it isn't is because Sutek realized they're so fucking retarded they'll obey and allow any nonsense law or oath without further thinking.
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>>131804 I ONLY COMMIT INCEST >>131894 As someone who has made a jump for a less than stellar movie before, >>131933 has just about the right of it. If you want specifics (I actually really like In Time): Drop-In (Poor Person) - Based on Will and the people from his area Rich in Time - Based on Sylvia/Philipe Time Investigator - Based on Raymond/the other time cops. Perks are significant things about these characters, like Will's insane luck inheriting all of that time, or his insane willpower to do things like that style of gambling where people try to steal each other's times. Or maybe a perk based on knowing if giving someone excess time (or money) is a bad idea because they can't control themselves. Items would be just random stuff from the story, maybe a 50 CP repeatable purchase to give yourself more 'Time'. Those little Time Batteries the banks have, the various cars, a small police force, a huge mansion. 600 CP item can be the system itself, you figure out how to implant people with something that can arbitrarily freeze their age but also add a timer on it.
Just metaphysically lobotomize the crocodile and stab pillars into its maw keeping its mouth forced open.
>>131978 >>131979 >but she still hasn't realized her only wish of eating existence. Purely because she likes the Sekhem she's getting and it's secondary to her desire. The Judges creating suffering has benefitted nobody but Ammut and it ultimately does not stop her. If Sutek was not there, the Judges would have turned the world into Hell to meet their quota because Ammut was fully ready to exploit the fact they do not question, they only enforce the laws. >>131979 If the Judges alone had made the compromise, existence would be entirely built on senseless suffering to feed Ammut. Sutek is the sole reason why them feeding her Sekhem is "you get a tithe" instead of "I get: half of everything. You get: literally nothing. Good day to you, sir".
>>131977 >>131981 Argent, you keep saying that it doesn't matter but >When the novelty expires (and it will), the world gets crunched anyway even if Atum was never there in the first place. makes it objectively false, it doesn't bind her or stop her from doing whatever she wants, but as long as she wants that more than eating reality it has the desired effect of stopping her, it's like arguing that if I ransom my family it's useless because the criminal can always choose to shoot them later, it may be true but it's still better than having them shot today.
>>131982 >Items would be just random stuff from the story, maybe a 50 CP repeatable purchase to give yourself more 'Time'. Oh, I know a good one. A copy of the Poker table that they gamble at, but even if you aren't part of the 'system' you can bet your lifespan there.
>>131981 Ok, but still the compromise isn't nearly as useless as you were saying considering it's actually staving off the end of all things. Generally the plot line seem really badly written, with ammut making a compromise completely secondary to her actual wish and making the effort of breaking it in small portions for literally no reason other because there's nothing that can in any way force her, a compromise that presumably appeared millenia after the creation of the world and that gives her a small portion of a miniscule portion of humanity
It's funny how Argent convinced the thread that at the end of the day the judges dindu nuffin. More seriously from what he's saying they fall more in "necessary evil" tier than how they were explained before, and unironically Sutek risked screwing up everything and letting reality be eaten.
>>131984 The problem is that Ammut can take everything when she wants, Sutek or anyone can't come to a compromise with her because from what you say Sekhem is secondary to her only wish, eating the world. No one can offer her anything or force her in any way
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>>131989 Argent seems to have the ability to make anyone he talks to disagree with him.
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>>131991 Strange, that.
>>131804 I've probably had at least one chain with incest. It's not a common thing, since it's not one of my major fetishes, but it's probably in there somewhere.
Alright, here's the question that needs to be asked How do you kill Ammut?
>>131994 From what he's saying it's impossible, being stronger than at least rank 9 beings
>>131994 Flood methid, starve her out by removing her food source.
>>131995 And unless you make her fight cain with his canonical sheet
>>131994 I don't think it's really to be asked, it doesn't seem WW knows, so you have to decide in your story how to defeat her. I'm thinking to poison her, as her flaw seems gluttony.
>>131998 >>131996 Make her eat the abyss, it's at the same time nothing that will eat all her food and poison
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>>131994 THERE ARE TWO ANSWERS, BOTH EQUALLY VALID
>>131999 Yes, it was one of the things I was thinking to use to poisin her, as I don't know well enough the setting to use things that aren't discussed in these settings.
>>131994 I could think of a few ways in-universe, but they would be on the realm of "be an Archmage or at the level of an Archmage, and use 10-dot magic or equivalent to nuke them after collecting whatever you can to make it stick". Even so, it would not be a surprise if the Judges decide to try to kill you for this for breaking some rule. Outside of jump, you could always summon White Hand from Vampire Survivors after you purchase that from the doc. Hardly nothing survives that.
>>132002 Isn't a single mummy capable of killing an archmage with an utterance? I guess even they can punch up well.
>>131985 >>131987 The compromise only exists because of Sutek - the Judges do not care for preserving reality, only law. Had Ammut come to them and went "Actually that's all mine. Gimme gimme mine" instead, they'd have obeyed that just as stringently as they would have the compromise. Atum himself made the Judges to convince Ammut that Everything DID deserve to exist and was this close to giving it all up because the Judges fucked everything until Sutek introduced Will. Going "actually the Judges are necessary" is a really shitty way of reading and misinterpreting what I've said.
>>132004 No, because you said, multiple time, reality keeps existing only because Ammut like being fed by them. When the starting point is "the supreme entity wants to eat everything" handfeeding her half the souls in existance is still a positive outcome.
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What are the best perks that let you just punch the various incomprehensible reality-warping horrors out there? Do elder gods even know how to respond to being suplexed?
>>132004 You were saying how all the sacrifices they make are pointless, before explaining how they are the only thing stopping ammut from eating everything, i'm not saying they're smart, good or anything like that but your argument was about how the only thing between ammut jaw and the world is pointless >>131951
>>132006 Q This from Star Trek TNG will cancel all reality warping with a touch.
>>131931 Hey NuBee, I've been thinking a bit about a good scenario to make for MHA. Here's the ultimate idea I came up with; mind telling me if it's too wanky? >The Setup: A black hole is on a collision course for Earth, and will come close enough to destroy the Earth within 9 years. Simply approaching the damn thing is effectively impossible for even the likes of Star And Stripe, and no way in hell is All For One able to punch something like that out of existence. My Quirk, Angel Arm, is theoretically long range enough and powerful enough that it could do the job. The problem: it's a fucking black hole, and it wouldn't be deleted from existence easily; it'd take something like a full minute's worth of charging to destroy the thing, and considering I already have cellular degredation at 5 seconds and permanent lifespan loss with 10 seconds... >The narrative: The goal is fairly clear: figure out a way to charge Angel Arm for at least 60 seconds without dying, and destroy the Black Hole coming for Earth before it destroys everything. In order to accomplish such a feat, I'm gonna need to figure out A: a substitute for lifespan, B: a way to reinforce my base body against the backlash of my Quirk, and C: a way to reinforce my Quirk itself against the comical level of strain I'm gonna put it under, all before the black hole arrives. >The Reward: I get to keep whatever adjustments I made to myself and my Quirk as well as gain a unique form of the Singularity Procedure perk; it specifically becomes highly receptive to augmentative procedures, allowing me to easily blend and adjust it with whatever I have on hand to improve it over time. Instead of my body transforming to support my Quirk, my Quirk will transform to support my body and future growth. The big thing that I'm worried about is...well, I was already going to do most of what I outlined in my scenario. My Jumper is literally built for things like this, and this is a fairly late game Jumper who has long since gone deep into science and medical perks. This is their bread and butter. Given that, it almost seems unfair to craft a scenario that naturally caters to my Jumper's skillset. Why I dumb.
>>132006 I think the jump was called Monster Prom, but there is a perk to let you do impossible things, like punch the sun, giving it a black eye, and causing it to scream expletives at you every time it sees you.
>>132011 Nta, and I don't have an opinion about the scenario's fairness but I was thinking that a teamup of Uraraka, Overhaul and Star could handle this, wich is funny.
>>132005 My point was to elucidate on the crux of the deal and the fact that the torturous suffering that the Judges engage in is not actually necessary. It doesn't feed Ammut any more than anything else. The Judges do that entirely on their own. The compromise is pointless sure, even if Ammut just wants to farm Sekhem into her maw. But the suffering behind it is even /more/ pointless - you literally don't need to suffer in order to get more Sekhem because it is essentially, the kinetic and dynamic action of life. The Judges perpetuate the suffering not because it is needed for feeding Ammut, but because they are the Arbiters of Suffering and that is how they came into existence. My point was nothing more than "there is no correlation between Suffering = Sekhem and Ammut is running a scam that the Judges are letting go unabated partially because they can't stop her and mostly because they're rule-obsessed lunatics who can't comprehend things outside the wording of the original oaths". If I deviated from that or started up a different tangent, then that's purely on me wording it poorly.
>>132011 >almost seems unfair to craft a scenario that naturally caters to my Jumper's skillset Yes, this is why I throw mage-only problems at my warriors, and hit mages with anti-magic zones. So nobody could do anything, lest they actually do something cool. Can't have that. Relax, anon.
>>132005 >>132014 Sekhem is also /explicitly/ the same thing as Chi, Gnosis, and Quintessence (literally what Mages need for big spells) in other splats. There are ethical ways of collecting and hoarding it in vast amounts (Ascended outright have infinite Quintessence to spend); the Judges just don't caaaaaaaare.
>>132017 No. I am dumb. Also I just woke up from a nap.
>>132018 Keep doing it for funsies.
>>132014 Then I'm sorry to have misunderstood you, but in your initial post you were saying that the deal made with her was pointless, wich obviously wasn't. All in all Ammut is a Zeno situation, where the universe destroyer is too powerful to be stopped and everyone has to dance around her requestes, but the evil the judges do outside of that is on them.
>>132014 So the Judges are just paperclip maximisers that only suck because their creator was a shitty programmer.
>>132013 Sincerely, walk me through this. Ochaco is obvious; they need some way to negate the effects of gravity on themselves so they can survive an approach towards the black hole. Star And Stripe is obvious; she can delete things she touches. But how does Overhaul help?
>>132016 To be more accurate (since I may have gotten it mixed up with the similar concept from oWoD it's been a while), Sekhem is the magic of the "world mad manifest" according to Awakened mages and it interacts with Supernal magic oddly. It is the life force or "liveliness" of the universe, and can be found concentrated in values or objects imbued with extreme emotions, memories, or feelings/sensations. Itcexists in everything - people yes, but also plants and animals and everything else. Logically, there are ways to harness it without causing suffering for its own sake, but under the Law of Suffering that the Judges abide by, the whole point of Sekhem is /to/ suffer. This is why Sutek made Will. In all honesty, the Judges could simply harness all the feelings and experiences of the world that have ever existed and feed Ammut indefinitely. But they won't do that because it is not part of the Law of Suffering. >>132021 Yes.
>>132023 Would it stop ammut from eating everything? From what you say it's not like she cares that much about nourishment
>>132022 Star is to let them reach the black hole through flight+warm air bubble, her quirks has limit so probably it wouldn't be able to destroy somethibg as massive as a black hole, Overhaul was the "erase stuff guy" I used, Shigaraki would be just as effective.
So what if you make a massive immovable rod and shove it in ammuts mouth?
Ayo, Arknights anon. How is progress going? Still alive?
>>132024 The argument is that because she hasn't eaten existence yet due to the current Sekhem tithe, then this must mean it's stopping her from eating everything outright. Assuming this is true, providing her with infinite Sekhem = an endlessly content Ammut. The writers seem to disagree on this. Regardless though, the Law of Suffering is bullshit and utterly hollow. It dictates that "your only motivation is pain/To live is to suffer/you exist to avoid pain" but non-Bane Relics and Heavenly A'aru prove that it is all nonsense. The Law is only the way it is because of the Judges and how they wagered reality.
>>132025 Overhaul probably wouldn't do the trick; it can rearrange matter, not delete it. Shiggy might do the trick, but he'd still need to make some degree of contact with the black hole itself...and it's important to note that a black hole is primarily made of empty space. If they can't find the singularity in time before Ochako and Star give out, then they're kinda fucked.
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What jump do you think it'd be fun to make Velma in? I was thinking Death Note.
>>132028 The law of suffering is bs but how do you know that ammut doesn't have fun watching humans being tortured? Not an attack I don't know
>>132029 Nta but would robot be capable of doing it?
>>131994 Be stronger Rank 9 - 10 entities.
>>132032 Almost certainly not; when two black holes meet they don't disintegrate, they fuse. At most he might be able to like, wiggle it. Maybe.
>>132030 Mage The Awakening.
>>132003 Archmages are wierd. On paper, they are one of the strongest beings in-setting, whose max powers are to literally do anything in its perview. On the flip side, they are sill essentially just humans in terms of durability. So the answer is, kinda? There are some options for an archmage to counter such an attack, but how exactly depends on interpretation.
>>131995 I will note that Khepera describes that all things are contained with him /except/ A'aru - Khepera is balanced within Ammut's jaws but A'aru is not. The Judges specifically should only let sinners be consumed by Ammut under Sutek's decree but because thry don't want anyone escaping to A'aru and proving the Law of Suffering false, they simply declare everyone to be a sinner to keep them out of A'aru. So if you can't beat Ammut down, then getting everyone to A'aru is a viable win con. >>132031 She might, but it's hard to say what the giant hungry entropy god actually feels towards everything beyond being hungry. >>132033 *than
>>132037 To be fair infinite slow drip is better than lump sum finite chomp
Soo.... UBW Abridged isn't actually finished. I hadn't anticipated this
>>132039 Most Abridged series never are.
>>132039 I mean, I felt like giving my two cents and mentioning that as to why doing a UBW Abriged jump would be iffy, but I... I-I figured you already knew that man.
>>132030 >the Scooby gang in Death Note >Velma realizes Light is killing people on TV >fingers Light as Kira solely because he keeps showing up to the scene >Scooby sneak into his house to switch the Death Note with a fake >Shaggy is broadcast under a fake name on TV in the afternoon as a mass-murdering serial killer >on cue, he fakes the most hilarious death of all time on national TV when Kira writes his name down >Fred retrieves the fake Death Note and uses it as evidence to prove Light is Kira >"And I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dog!"
>>132034 Nta but Robot was the spacewarping Nomu.
>>132043 Yeah, I checked. >https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/Robot >Unnamed Spatial Distortion Quirk: This Quirk allowed Robot to create a miniature black hole by using his hand to twist a small area of the fabric of space from a distance.[1] It's interesting, but it wouldn't really help with dealing with an actual black hole. Black holes fuse when they collide, not collapse or fizzle. At most he might be able to like, wiggle it.
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>>132027 It's nyover...
>>132030 >pic Oh dear, people has forgotten it since forever.
>>132044 >an actual black hole nta, but those basically don't exist in fiction outside of very specific sci-fi entries because writers usually don't into requisite disciplines. In fairness though, the real deal is so absurdly overkill in how immediately destructive it is relative to a given scope of reality a person can conceive that there wouldn't really be a way to depict it in that limited scope without feeling like the hax bullshit that it is. It genuinely can't be overstated how excessively fucked any given planet would be if it was the drop site for a means to create a black hole the width of a smaller piece of pocket change for the duration of a mere second at a time.
>>132044 Ah, in the manga I don't think there was that comparison so I didn't know of it.
Reading Volcanic Age is making me contemplate how martial arts get presented in different Murim stories. It generally feels like it ends up in one of two camps. There's one side where the arts are generally clumped up into one overarching style of sorts with characters rarely branching out, and then another side where individual techniques can have significantly greater importance or flexibility. Volcanic Age often presents more to the latter despite the protagonist's main thing being Mount Hua Plum Blossom swordsmanship. I feel like Legend of the Northern Blade which was another story I binged recently was much more towards the former though. It's not like it's a hard thing, there's generally more of a sliding scale mixture especially in stories with a bigger emphasis on technical development or training arcs, but still. Like, on similar notes, it also feels like some stories treat the power of a technique very differently from one to the next. With some, you need to be strong in order to learn strong techniques, while in others you can learn strong techniques to become strong. Sounds a bit circular and disjointed but the short and narrow is that I now don't know how I want to structure my martial arts in regards to chain stuff. I'm mostly clear on the themes for my armed techniques, movement arts, and qi circulation method; I just don't know if I want them to be more arms of a system or independent, or powerful and complex or escalating. You know what I mean?
>>132047 I'm fully aware of that fact, which honestly makes it even funnier to try and say that Robot would have any sort of effect at all; what he's got is a little baby anime black hole, which wouldn't be jack shit to an actual black hole. >>132048 It's fine. Even if it was pure spatial distortion, it wouldn't really help. A black hole is a well of infinite spatial distortion; at the absolute most Robot might be able to like...tilt it, make it slide in a direction a little bit. But I sincerely doubt he'd have the raw power to achieve such a feat, and there's no way in hell he'd be able to actually stop a black hole.
>>132049 Totally, even as a massive mount hua fanboy its hard to strike a balance in tone for what you want your own stuff to be. I tend to go with the techniques are by themselves powerful but that really unlocking that power is the hard part. Like you can totally learn some crazy fire palm or sword technique but without a ton of work put into it and a lot of actual understanding you will never be able to do as much as a person with a less inherently powerful technique that they fully comprehend. And on the flip side a person with a poor technique could improve their power via their own understandings of how it works and of martial arts.
>>132030 Disco Elysium?
>>132051 Yeah, I'm thinking I might go with something similar, both for simplicity's sake, and because it's more fun to imagine stages of mastery for one thing that's really cool rather than a dozen of the basic and intermediary techniques that need to be progressed through to get to the fun/transcendental stuff. It's also because I feel bad that the more common techniques in such systems are used as the stepping stones. With a system where the technique is strong and can be learned whenever but levels of mastery distinguish it, you get to see the growth and development of both the fighter and their moves.
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Purely hypothetically, how would one go about making a jump for a puzzle game with...two distinct characters (one of which is an NPC) and no real story beyond "collect cute bunnies"? There's not even so much as the vague assumption of the passage of time, so it's not like you can really stay for a period. No one except the MC is collecting bunnies, so you can't just add in another bunny collector. Being a bunny is kinda pointless because bunnies always move on predetermined logic and I doubt anyone (except maybe Shard) would want to be a bunny of pure logic that only acts via a predefined clear-cut set of rules. There's not even a greater world to explore; just bunny burrows and the MC's house. IS it possible to make a jump for a puzzle game like this? Even if it's just a short gauntlet?
>>132054 Hey Nubee, mind sanity checking my MHA scenario here (>>132011)?
>>132055 You just need to think laterally to make one.
>>132056 Oh, sure, gimme a second.
>>132055 Scrap the idea of having background structures. Collect every aspect of the game world and figure out what it is that can be reasonably offered as items, what can be reasonably offered as perks. Honestly, if the setting is super compact, it is one of the situations where the supermarket format actually makes more sense. Especially if there are no real stakes, and the only point of making the jump is so you can visit the world.
>>132055 Gauntlet, you stay until you collect x bunnies. Drawbacks make it harder to catch bunnies (Is there a hard mode? Are there modifiers that get added to make later levels harder?) Perks make it easier tocatch bunnies (you can move more or move faster) Perks so you can bring the game feeling to other universes (Anyone you chase starts running in clear cut rules instead of running chaotically, you ar better at grabbing and keeping hold of things you chase. You can introduce whatever modifiers the game has to make the bunnies harder to catch to make you harder to catch when people are chasing you) >>132059 >supermarket format actually makes more sense You shut your whore mouth. Go to the corner and think about correcting your life, you garbage human.
>>132053 >Scooby Doo and the Ghost of Communism Past
>>132011 I'm a bit flummoxed here. Two things. If this was just like, talking about MHA stuff I'd think this was a joke. A blackhole is so many orders of magnitude beyond MHA power levels that I really think you might want to just make that like, an asteroid or something much smaller. Like, a blackhole? Like, that's a problem for the whole ass solar system. Given you are putting this together with your whole skillset in mind and you are apparently a late stage Jumper I guess that's doable, and I guess the payoff is fine at that point. I get where you're coming from with the whole "scenario tailored to skillset" stuff but it would apparently be difficult for you even still and the payoff is well beneath the feat of destroying a blackhole, so I guess it's fine?
>>132062 The black hole was like the third idea I had. I started with an earth-killing asteroid, but thought "no, other people can probably deal with that." Then I thought maybe a Strangelet asteroid with the assumption that the exotic physics of strangelets might make it resistant to quirks, but then I ran into the idea that if a Strangelet asteroid could resist quirks then why would my Quirk be any different. So I finally arrived on "wandering black hole"; big enough threat that nobody else can deal with, simple enough cosmic object that my Angel Arm should hold the theoretical capability of destroying it (with enough analysis and charge time). I might swap back to the strangelet asteroid. But the fundamental logic of the scenario is "threat that only Angel Arm can deal with, except Jumper's body is nowhere near capable of wielding Angel Arm to that level, so do science to upgrade body/Angel Arm until it can deal with it. You get to keep what you do, and can more easily upgrade Angel Arm in the future".
>>131925 >>131927 >>131926 Black Crusade has them in part III and during part II you can get something even better, the Castigator titan
>>132063 If it helps, I don't think anybody can actually fuck up an earth killing asteroid unless you canonize the movie with the super duper mega Quirk enhancer and slap that shit on Star.
>>132060 What would making it a Gauntlet do? There are no stakes in Paquerette. The assumption of the jumper filling the player character's role doesn't make much sense either since Paquerette is just acting out a child's obsession. The game is not meant to be hard and between what you already get in the game and the way the puzzles are set up, perks just break the premise over the knee. It's like playing pac-man except you are permanently chasing a ghost. That's basically the problem that Nyanko alluded to, this is a setting that runs off of a very niche premise with zero worldbuilding, zero difficult or risk, and zero interaction outside of said premise.
Y'know back when I read through part 1 of Chainsaw Man years ago I did not care for Makima but as it turns out that i'm not immune to propaganda. Also she's real and in my house, I need help and I need it quick. Anyway Chainsaw Man is one of those types of jump that despite enjoying the media it's based on you couldn't pay me or promise me anything to actually get me to go there so i'm trying to think of jumps where I could make a vastly weaker and a significantly less evil version of her in and my base idea right now is to find jumps with puppeteering based powers that could potentially work on people and the two main examples/ideas I have for that would be either Naruto where she'd be like Sasori where she turns people into puppets or maybe she could use the Impure World Reincarnation or some other similar technique there and the second example would be her being a bloodbender in Avatar/Korra. Anyway i'm just looking for any other potential ideas before I go ahead with one of my two previous ones.
>>132065 >canonize the movie with the super duper mega Quirk enhancer and slap that shit on Star. Have Twice make a billion super Shiggys so they can disintegrate the asteroid Not that he'd want to
>>132067 >Gif I want that
>>131889 I'd dig it. Not a fun setting to live in, but the game was pretty good.
>>132065 I'd argue there's actually a number of ways various quirks could deal with a world killing asteroid. If Shiggy was altruistic enough and went whole hog on it, that'd do the trick; he disintegrated most of entire cities multiple times, he could do the same to an asteroid. Star and Stripe does all sorts of bullshit. All Might in his prime could probably just punch the damn thing into nonexistence. It would absolutely be something that requires the best of the best to deal with, but the world could deal with it.
>>132066 Makes it so you don't have to adhere to a time limit (Having to stay in the setting for ten years, or one year or whatever.) Makes it so you don't have to adhere to having 600 CP perks, or even 400 CP perks, without doing supermarket shit. Gauntlets work on a different set of rules, so you can use those rules to your advantage instead of trying to twist the jump format into something weird.
>>132066 >The game is not meant to be hard I would HEARTILY disagree. The puzzles can be absolute brain breakers. But that's just my two cents.
>>132067 I still don't get the hype for this bitch Then again I know nothing about her besides fanart gives her a fat ass she doesn't have in the source material.
>>132072 >>132073 Oh, also makes it so you have to DO the puzzles, instead of fucking off to do whatever or using OCP to bypass the puzzles, both reason why I did A Game About Digging a Hole as a gauntlet instead of a jump
>>132072 None of what you mentioned requires a gauntlet. In my opinion the only aspect of a Gauntlet which is noteworthy is that the normal conditions for chain failure, typically by death, are waived. I don't see that as being necessary here. Otherwise as far as mechanics and actual jump structures go, there are no rules to be followed. The idea of forcing the reader to do the puzzles feels like unnecessary railroading. There is nowhere else to fuck off to, or anything else to do. If the reader wants to do that, they're basically building a world from scratch and if they care enough to worldbuild something from scratch, might as well let them. Besides the nameplate and the character designs, this is essentially a jump for "Generic Tag", except it has fewer options than a jump for that would because of its niche.
Damn it whats the name of that jump for a setting that is about a pig orc, something boo boo? I want to look through and see if I can create a custom rpg support class called chrome shaman that would allow me to make magical ripperdoc parts
>>132077 The Weakness of Beatrice.
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This is actually how I married Artoria a week after we met
Fuck Kurapika.
>>131706 There was one that died pretty fast over on qq. Called Pinball Wizard, had some interesting set up things but it only lasted five chapters.
>>132079 Against her will?
>>132080 Okay I will.
>>132082 She was secretly into it
>>132080 Agreed
A miracle has happened and i fixed my pc. God is great.
What do you look for in potential companions? Comparability when it comes to personalities between my jumper and his companions is probably the most important thing in my case though I pretty much only pick up OCs at this point to ensure that to an extent.
>>132086 That's a bummer.
>>132085 Have you thought about looking into other abridged series to make a jump for? Y'know since murder death kill isn't finished yet.
>>132089 I'm kinda committed now
>>132086 Glad to hear it. PC issues fucking suck.
>>132061 >The two communists try and explain their "just beleive hard enough" philosophy to Shag and Scoob >The two of them try and will a ludicrously complicated submarine sandwich into existence >it fails, because of course it does, duh. >They leave >"Jeez Scoob, they cats sure are a few bakers short of a dozen." >"Reah, rort of a rozen. Rehehehehehe!" >door closes, their matchbox building collapses again >Next day Harry meets those two kids >they start trying to convince him that large submarine sandwhiches are inherently anti-communist and shouldn't exist for some reason. >"What about this sandwich?" Shows the sandwich he browbeat the one guy over >Savoir Faire check >Fails >he trips and accidentally throws the sandwich at the matchbox structure >it collapses again >Drama: See, they were correct! Watch how the fruit of the Bourgeoise destroys the achievements of communism! >Rhetoric: Wow, you were right, it really is about failure >Half-Life: Those hippies look pissed off, we need to leave yesterday before they snap.
>>132090 Fair, hope it turns out well for ya, when it comes out I'll probably get around to watching it.
>>132087 Vibes, aesthetics, thematic compatibility with my chain, and booty.
>>132078 Ah thats it thank you
>>132094 >Pic You know, I never did that halloween event, that was round the time when I did my hiatus from FGO (and never really got back on). How is Zenobia as a character?
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>>132045 The original fat dog wife ^ Even if I'm not a nacho, I'm still getting nacho arts for the aesthetics man. They're so cool.
>>132055 I feel like Excitebike serves as potent precedent for how little an IP needs to have going on to be viable for a Jump.
>>132087 Characters I liked, honestly. For a mix of their personality and their looks. Also a small bit of wanting them to fit specific roles. Like Bulma and Lucca are the 'science' team. Heather is the team mom. Agrias and Anko are frontline fighters, with Agrias being a tank while Anko is more rogue. Yue is the Black Mage while Nodoka is the White Mage. Gwen is a jack-of-all trades who fits into multiple roles, and Felicia is my personal assistant and team support.
>>132098 Anything can have a jump as long as you're willing to make it and you accept that you'll probably be the only person to use it.
>>132096 I honestly don't know. My knowledge of fate only extendeds to four characters. >>132097 I want to become an hostorian explorer in the AK jump. With my own organization to help fund my expeditions.
>>132084 She isn't Darkness
>>132087 Personally I would look for someone that can stand jumper being a bit touched in the head. The type to accept that he isn't going to go clubbing or massive orgies, but would love to pull out a note pad and write down everything the DM says to use it when the DM forgets. And probably would accept people that just want to leave their worlds behind, because I know a lot of us here don't want to come back.
>>132102 >blonde >knight >crazy I don't know man. Have you ever seen them in the same room together?
>>132067 I usually make an expy of her in WotR as either an Oracle or Hellknight. Just a couple of elements of her and the appearance.
>>132096 Eh. Personally I think she's alright, though she hasn't really done much outside of the event she was added in. She suffers from the fact that in a game with a gazillion other characters, she has little relevance or screen-time to really DO anything positive or negative unless a writer feels like adding them in, which is just how it be. From the little we get though, she's a mature and determined woman who has moments of cuteness here and there.
>>132096 NTA, but I found her kinda boring. Kinda like a Lakshmibai with a past humiliation she wants to overcome. She does crush about the protagonist in the tower event and valentines if you are into that however.
>>132027 Funny you should ask this now. After not touching it for a while due to needing to attend to life bullshit, two days ago I took a break and did some work on it, then a little more the next day, yesterday. I got like 23+ Perks and Items done, and one Companion, and that's just on Arknights.
>>132101 Theres so much shit to explore and find. Try to catalog all the s*rkaz races that got extinct with the passage of time. Also all the other elder and ancient races that got extinct too. Find fossils of the ancients and teekaz back when they were still beasts.(get an arts that allows you to animate them like Eblana did.). Ancient cities that got wrecked by catastrophes. Learn ancient teekaz so you can insult them in their ancestral tongue. I'd say the perk that gives you ancestral memories but it feels like that'd take all the fun out of it.
>>132104 No, but I have never seen Darkness and Tsunade in the same room either.
>>132104 Artoria is missing some 2 critical assets that Darkness has.
>>132111 Alive subjects and the love of her kingdom?
Can a fan of star wars tell me if the Jedi Temple has been invaded other times than the Sacking of Coruscant and Order 66?
>>132113 Many times yes.
>>132114 Can you give me examples?
Thoughts on the Dragon Ball DLC for Minecraft? Yes it's real.
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>>132109 I've always thought that the Arknights setting would work really well for a Call of Cthulhu style game. Like, imagine a group of Columbian reporters trying to investigate the Iberian inquisition due to rumors of corruption. Then they find out about the seaborns, then they discover Aegir, then the ancients, and they just keep falling deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.
Dogtown sucks ass. That is all.
>>132113 The youngling jump probably shouldn't offer the entire Temple.
>>132116 Fort Night has desensitized me against wacky crossovers.
>>132116 It's for Bedrock, so it's shit. Just play Dragon Block C
>>132119 Why not? I wanted to offer the galactic senate. Offering the jedi temple is pretty tame.
>>132115 Pretty sure it happend a bunch of times during the times of Revan/pre rule of two sith.
>>132125 I need examples in order to add them to the timeline section.
>>132124 It's pretty dumb to offer the senate as well but you keep proving yourself to be a reddit tier jump-maker who just adds shit to his jumps just because.
>>132120 >>132124 >nigga is unironically trying the door in face/foot in door
>>132113 Various enemies broke in a few times, like Cad Bane, and a few pissed off ex-padawansi, but the Sacking of Coruscant and Order 66 are the only explicit times I can think of when it was a full invasion and not just one or towo guys sneaking in.
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>>132108 Bless you, anonpipi. You're doing the good work. Also, I remember you talking about a lewd Arknights jump. Can you post a wip? Will it have a BHC origin?
>>132112 Don't forget Darkness has a loving family that doesn't want to kill her for her title.
>>132108 Funny you would say that, today I had a dream. >arknights anon walked up to me, and whispered in my ear: "The arknights jump... it will be done in two days." >Then they kissed my cheek and left. >I woke up and realized that reality is truly disappointing. Since were here: Who would win - Logos or a 600 race (arts and physical) with 11th king and Cannibalism optional and nothing else? I am sorry. I still have trouble figuring out how powerful that'd be. You think confessarius arts would be enough o kill a beast lord? I know they mess with souls, and Beast lords are basically ancestral spirits. You think one would be able to stop the whole the masses travel mess by walking up to the Godcube as a human? Put me back in, im not doc can be used to make oripathy medicine, sure. But can it be used to say, help the Abyssal hunters not mutate firther? Or further protect one from the Collapse? Would someone knowing blood arts be able to use it to I dunno, temporarily protect someone from external corruption by using their blood? If that works, could you make a blood cage or whatever around a Emperor’s Blade demon shards to stop them from exploding just to flex on ursus? What the fuck is Priestess problem? Did she really need to try and build Amiya 2.0 just to spite the doc?
>Decide not to use Free Cities in my current chain because I don't feel like doing the overhaul just yet. >As of jump 2, I've basically put together an arcology to follow me going forward. I cannot escape. It's too damned convenient to have everything centralized in one huge building.
>>132130 Devil woman are made for human men.
>>132133 Dread it. Run from it. The Free Cities arrive all the same.
>>132133 You know what you like in your chains, and that’s always something. How did you create the arcology?
>>132134 TRVKE
>>132087 >though I pretty much only pick up OCs at this point to ensure that to an extent. Same. I gotta know they have my back
I think I'll layer self-repair and curse spells on every stone block I use in construction to prevent quarrying by retarded locals.
>>132113 Their entire home planet before Coruscant got obliterated by a psycho bpd lady and her mandalorian simps.
>>132116 It's probably shit, so Ryuujin is likely rolling in his grave.
>>132139 What kind of curse?
>>132142 Unknown yet, probably put some kind of limited-intelligence in each stone so it can have some kind of idea of the appropriate curse.
>>132136 A combination of the top tiers of Moneymaker, House and Home, and Tools of the Trade from Cyberpunk 2077. The result is a megabuilding that acts as the self-sufficient HQ of the company I got from my previous jump. The top couple of floors are my penthouse and personal workshop. Below that is Admin, Sales & Support, R&D, and Manufacturing. Plus enough residential and commercial space for a full staff of employees and their extended families to live their whole lives on-site. It's not totally self-sufficient just yet, but it'll get there.
>>132137 Wendigoes are almost extinct. This means no 8ft tall deer skulled devil gf. How do people keep finding reasons to keep on living in terra?
>>132145 Laziness.
What are some good drawbacks for a jedi initiate? Things like being naive, idealist, overconfidence, politically ignorant, etc.
>>132147 Being easily angered. It's something that'll get you ostracized by your peers and make it difficult to get a master, going by canon
Any healing magics good enough for keeping at least a squad going strong in the middle of a battle?
>>132148 Already done.
>>132149 I honestly can't think of a setting with healing magics that aren't that good? Like, that's the main point of healing magic in most settings
>>132147 You already failed. Enjoy being part of the Jedi Service Corps.
>>132147 Everyone having weird titles like that one meme about revenge of the sith in chinese. productivity manager skywalker, what will we do?
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>>132130 Maybe if I clean it up a bit first. Right now the Origins are >Wacky 0 sanity doujin Doctor who does crazy doujin nonsense and everyone just has to deal with it because he's too useful >Weak Support Operator nerd who gets dommed by bigger, stronger Operators >Angry (and horny) revolutionary who gets stronger/better the more terminal their horniness gets, basically a Reunion/Oripathy joke >GLORIOUS URSUS IMPERIALISM based on rape (the brutal kind, not the heart pupils kind) which has a Perk for raping eldritch abominations >Seaborn, filled with biofuckery and mutation There are also provisional Origins I'm working on like >Originium Slugs >Angry mind-rapist Ex-Wives like Priestess and Theresa >Collapsals >>132132 >Who would win - Logos or a 600 race (arts and physical) with 11th king and Cannibalism optional and nothing else? Presumably you'd counter each others' Arts leaving you with the physical advantage with Logos needing to Scooby Doo run through a hallway of doors to avoid you until backup inevitably comes. >You think confessarius arts would be enough o kill a beast lord? No clue. Beast Lords and Revenants are weird, and pretty much nothing has been shown to permanently affect them. Even Ageless who have been around forever don't seem to have a way to fuck with them, as shown by best girl Miss Christine's promise to Phantom regarding Tragodia. Who the FUCK knows, man. >You think one would be able to stop the whole the masses travel mess by walking up to the Godcube as a human? Unlikely. It was caused by Priestess directly hacking it an overriding its permissions, and the day was only saved thanks to Executor's impossible levels of autism. >But can it be used to say, help the Abyssal hunters not mutate firther? Or further protect one from the Collapse? >Would someone knowing blood arts be able to use it to I dunno, temporarily protect someone from external corruption by using their blood? It would theoretically help with that if it were effecting you, yes. While the Perk makes you resistant to external corruption, the only effect your blood has when extracted is that has a restorative effect on those it enters. You can fanwank the extent to which this can be utilized; using it to help treat Seaborn infection sounds plausible, but I'd personally hesitate on it helping with Collapsal, well, collapse. That being said, Vampire Arts are fucking bullshit, so hey, maybe. >If that works, could you make a blood cage or whatever around a Emperor’s Blade demon shards to stop them from exploding just to flex on ursus? I think that would be a bit much. I'd more expect you to be able to put protective shields on people in the radius than block the entire anti-reality explosion. I might be wrong, but I envision the initial breach as being a lot more violent than just "The area is corrupted now." Like, even if you were immune to the corruption, I imagine the crazy rapid environmental shifts would physically fuck you up. >What the fuck is Priestess problem? Did she really need to try and build Amiya 2.0 just to spite the doc? That can actually be read in a few ways. "Yeah, well I can do it too!" isn't the reading I'd go for. "I wonder why he got so attached to these things. Maybe I'll adopt a pet too and see if I can understand him," seems more likely to me.
>>132147 Being the chosen one.
>>132152 In my jump you can freely choose to be in the service corps. It even gives you exclusive perks.
>>132147 Being an iconoclast like Qui-Gon. You openly follow some teachings about the Force that while not banned, is not liked by the Jedi orthodoxy.
>>132147 Your master isn't malicious, and they honestly do have your best interests in mind, but regardless of if it's a you problem or a them problem, you have issues wrapping your head around and understanding their lessons and guidance. Outside help, additional lessons, or deepening your bond with your master may be needed in order to grow as a Jedi reliably.
>>132155 Already done that drawback.
>>132159 Alright, being a Dark Lord of the Sith.
>>132160 Already done it, a drawback that makes the dark side constantly tempt you with power.
>>132147 Through some esoteric sith curse or unfortunate artifact exposure, your voice sounds exactly as ugly and evil as Darth Sidious, including saying evil shit when you try to speak requiring others to translate to figure out you are actually asking them to pass the Bantha milk instead of whatever vaguely evil thing you rattled off.
>>132161 Everyone in the temple left/died and you awake among the rubble? Can't remember if it involved younglings or padawan but I think one comic had a group of them murdered by some fellow jedi because of a prophecy, with only one escaping and being framed.
>>132147 Being threatened with a good time. The sort of thing where life would be going great if you were allowed to live it, but Jedi aren't supposed to be so deep in all that emotional stuff so the friction is purely between the order trying to guilt trip you into not having real friends outside of work/a proper social life/romance should you be of an age where that's an option.
How many "battles" with your Pokemon do you think you'd have to have before you outlevel them?
>>132163 That was from the Knights of the old republic comic. The protagonist Zane has some pretty shitty luck and as a result a group of jedi masters have a prophecy where some padawans murder them, so they kill them all. Zane survives because the worst his general luck becomes, the more his survival luck increases.
>>132164 Great idea!
>>132147 >you easily get attached, quickly falling in love, quickly starting to trust people(including people who haven't earned it yet), be strongly affected by things like fear of loss, jealously and longing. >You're ambitious, you always want to prove yourself, you want to be acknowledged, you want to grow more powerful(both in the force and socially), and you are willing to bend your morals the more you want something. >You have troubles following rules/restrictions placed upon you, always having some yearning for freedom/independence, be it wanting to use your powers more liberally or sneak out past curfew, maybe even going so far as having some major disagreement with the teachings of the jedi.
>>132143 I usually just stick a curse of 'hits the wielder back twice as hard' on buildings and monuments. If you want to be fancy have the curse travel up command links so both the worker and his boss get the doubled hit.
>>131842 Late, but Necrozma from Pokemon Sun and Moon.
How would Palpatine react to all of his servants and toadies he has in place to take over various things to consolidate power suddenly dropping dead right before he moves to begin the end game of the Clone Wars?
>>132171 Rage, laugh, and probably fuck around regardless.
>>132171 His rage would be so intense he would power-up like a fucking Saiyan, and after all the jedi on Coruscant detected his power levels, he would go to kill them all with force storms.
>>132171 unless you mean literally everyone alive during the transition to the empire I don't see who that's going to hit besides palpatine himself and vader
>>132171 I mean, who are you killing? The elegance of his ascent to power is that the people just sorta turn themselves over, right? He lets Dooku get offed, and he gets rid of the Jedi through the Storm Trooper army that they themselves let in. By the end of things there's four people that have any idea what the fuck happened, and he's one of them.
>>132149 many Isekai like Konosuba, Mushoku Tensei, Log Horizon, Overlord and more. >>132151 nta, but in a lot of setting healing magic is not fast enough to keep someone going mid battle, or it consumes too much power to keep a whole squad going.
>>132171 probably go into hiding and investigate what happened.
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Happy Friday night anons. Is your weekend off to a good start? I had a shit day at work but I also found out that MahoAko is finally coming off of hiatus this month.
>>132175 Tarkin, Amedda, the heads of the banks he controls, and anyone else I can get to.
>>132178 I've been up for 23 hours and counting. Idly thinking about martial arts.
>>132147 Being jailbait who gets captured/raped on a regular basis, like a constant porno.
>>132181 and she was a good friend.
>>132178 I'm a bit sore from work, but otherwise things are going well. >spoiler Nice. >>132179 Don't forget Sate Pestage. Palpatine sort of even likes that guy in so much as he likes anyone.
>>132165 That depends on entirely too many factors to even consider attempting to directly answer... >what is a human's EXP growth rate? >which EXP formula is each party operating under? >which pokemon are you training with? >what initial level is that pokemon? >what initial level is the human? >is either party getting further EXP modifiers? >are both parties even using the same basic leveling system?
>>132154 >Presumably you'd counter each others' Arts leaving you with the physical advantage with Logos needing to Scooby Doo run through a hallway of doors to avoid you until backup inevitably comes. Who would they even send? Degenbrecher? >best girl Miss Crhistine My man. Btw, by additional information on Miss christine, does that means she has any other special abilities other tham being a immortal spooky cat? I'm not up to date on our lady Miss Christine's lore. >Unlikely. It was caused by Priestess directly hacking it an overriding its permissions, and the day was only saved thanks to Executor's impossible levels of autism. Hey, dont forget andoain. He was there too. Mostly helping Executor look better by being close to his lame ass. >That can actually be read in a few ways. "Yeah, well I can do it too!" isn't the reading I'd go for. "I wonder why he got so attached to these things. Maybe I'll adopt a pet too and see if I can understand him," seems more likely to me. I feel like that won't work since she's not super speshful like Amiya. Speaking of which, i find it funny how people probably wont bat an eye if you go around using a sarkaz tribe's witchcraft as long as you don't look like an sarkaz. Like the blood knight.
>>132178 Most of my day was consumed by torpor.
>>132151 usually happens in games like starcraft when blizzard is too retarded to write around medic healing so the shit that brings someone back from a skeleton on the ground is just a light scratch bandager when the time comes around for them to write a book on the setting in the middle of microwaving an egg
what spells are worth getting fo a Sorcerer in Forgotten Realms? As in I am looking for stuff I cant easily get elsewhere that would be useful. Like Mind Blank is a lock for example, but pretty much all offensive spells aren't really worth considering.
Would the Ruling Ring from Lord of the Rings let a jumper take advantage of the Clone spell in D&D to create spare bodies to revive in if killed?
>>132188 Genesis
>>132189 Is it your own Ruling Ring, with your power and spirit invested in it? Then yeah, should work. You wouldn't even be able to die properly until the ring is destroyed, and anyone who so much as sees it would likely be influenced by your desires and will. Slip that bad boy on a clone body and it's basically a new body for you. Might take a bit to break in the new body, re-center your wlll and consciousness into it, but otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work.
>>132189 The Clone spell actually relies on your soul detaching from your mortal flesh to work. I suggest getting something like Eternal Soul from Transformers Kiss Players or Mastery of Samsara from Journey to the West instead That or just wanking that losing your physical body doesn't count as true death if you have a clone body lying around.
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>>132188 See if there's a subclass or something that lets you take bard spells so you can pick up Vicious Mockery or an improved version of it. I don't know many places where you can kill someone with a sick burn.
>>132191 That's not what I mean. The Clone spell creates a copy of you and if you die you automatically revive in that body, the idea being to use the ring as a tether to not truly die/chain fail but still have a revive prepared so as to not deal with Sauron's issue of needing to reclaim the ring or the like. >>132192 Strictly speaking that would happen, just not detached from the ring alongside my flesh.
>>132154 How does Broken Sun's Civilight Eterna work? I only know some general stuff, but do we have any range to it or a memory limit? I had a weird idea of a companioned yandere Amiya going on a mind control spree, and I'd like to know how catastrophic it could get. My current path is to pick Ishar'mla and kal'tsit as companions too, and convincing them to hatch a plan to unfuck Terra. One of the Seaborn endings taking place in the far future seems pretty optimistic and Originium is apparently a non-issue, so they could probably pull it off smoother.
Just discovered Youtube is filled with old kung fu movies from the hong kong era. Pretty cool.
>>132194 >Strictly speaking that would happen, just not detached from the ring alongside my flesh. Right, then it probably wouldn't work since your soul wouldn't be free. It'd be bound up in your ring.
>>132194 Mmmm...not entirely sure then. Sauron was sort of a formless wraith without the One Ring and could endure like that perpetually so long as the Ring existed, so technically there's the idea that your consciousness could exist independent of the Ruling Ring and you might be able to call that as what gets shoved into your next Clone body. But the Ruling Ring explicitly holds the power and spirit of its crafter; this is what allows the Ruling Ring to work at all and ensures Sauron's immortality as he's not really there so much as his soul is in the Ring and thus killing his body and scattering his consciousness won't really do anything to his soul.
>>132196 Really? Neat! I'll have to look some up then.
>>132185 >Who would they even send? Degenbrecher? Whoever the plot demands. >does that means she has any other special abilities other tham being a immortal spooky cat? I'm not up to date on our lady Miss Christine's lore. She has some spooky powers. She, in typical Beast Lord fashion, can fuck with senses to cause illusions, manipulate shadows, and seemingly split into multiple, or at least make copies of herself. Her most notable ability is that she eats emotions, which is shownhaving various effects from calming people down, to fucking with short-term memories by devouring them. She hates the taste of Phantom's pain but follows him and eats them anyways to keep him stable. At one point she promises him that if he gets possessed by Tragodia she'll spend the rest of time following him and fucking with him however she can, since he can't stop her. >Like the blood knight. I feel like that's just "normal" hemokinetic Arts, not Vampire "I can use blood portals/recreate my body from blood/read the past through bloodstains," vampire bullshit, which is much crazier. That said, admittedly, to the average dumbfuck ignorant Terran, the difference may not be noticeable. >>132195 You have the Civilight Eterna inside you. It can either be a "new" one with no past involvement with the Sarkaz, or you can co-hold it with Amiya (remember, it can choose multiple heirs at once) in which case it comes with all the Sarkaz baggage. We have no indications of its limits or max range. As for how catastrophic it can get, very. If what it shows you doesn't drive you mad first, just having it practically shoots you up to the illustrious rank of giganigga. That shit can instantly download other people's skills, mindrape them, ignore physical durability, and all kinds of other shit. Like, the ancient Lord of Fiends Quesadilla had the power to materialize "fate" in the sky and pluck its strings to manipulate events so hard that he had his armies stomp others without a single casualty. Everyone seems to come away with their own weird ways to use it, and its full potential is unknown, but apocalyptic. Honestly, the only things in the Jump on the same tier as it's theoretical potential are either going full Feramnut/Seaborn build and out-evolving everything, or going full Collapsal with Holy Fool and letting Them in, but that last one is less, "I'm strong enough to beat you," and more, "Do what you must, I have already won."
A question for someone who is more familiar with Infinite Stratos, how do the Valkyrie Cores from Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest compare with IS cores? I know they are decently equivalent due to the former being an expy of the latter, but I also know that an IS was used to defeat a comically large amount of missiles. The only reason I ask is because I am thinking on jumping IS after I figure Valkyrie Cores to the point where I can then spread them everywhere and fuck with pic related's control over the technology and get rid of all the arbitrary restrictions they added to IS cores.
>>132201 Isn't she super dangerous if you piss her off though?
>>132202 I can beat her myself; I just want to poke the bear and get away with it. Rubbing it in is a side goal of the entire deal with IS.
>>132202 Can't be that dangerous if she is in RKV range.
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>>132195 The Seaborn getting unfucked, and unfucking Terra in turn, only happened by eldritch jellyfish femboy going Jesus mode and redeeming the ocean's sins. Ishar'mla is an asshole who pushes the hivemind further into murder mode. Not saying it's impossible, since the Companion option is wacky with what it lets you do, but that's how it normally goes.
>>132202 I cast "Fuck your tech" and cause all technology to explode.
>>132201 The average Valkyrie Core has far lower scale weaponry, but makes up for it in far stronger shields and Impeller Fields. They're ROUGHLY equivalent in terms of speed. Valkyrie Cores have higher growth potential and customizability. Tabane can probably figure out how to make her own Valkyrie Cores if she knew that they existed and she wanted to. She's practically a living Singularity (in the technological sense); she invented the entirety of IS technology out of fucking nowhere for her own amusement more than anything. Including dimensional pockets. Including AI. Including energy shields. Including nanomachines. Because she wanted to. Don't play the technological escalation game with Tabane. She will win. Just fuck her over with magic.
>>132206 >>132207 >Gond has entered chat.
>>132200 >We have no indications of its limits or max range. So given it's supposed to record all of history, it works on a planetary scale at least? It feels a bit too much. Of course, given that's its primary function I guess that makes sense. I assume the mind control stuff will require to be at least somewhat close. Now, I wonder what would happen if I took it with the Collapsal capstone and Touching upon the Answer. (Where did the whole parallel universe seaborn network thing feature? I can't find where that was discussed in the story.)
>>132207 But I'm a tech jumper, I have to fight fire with fire. Especially because I also have time and capabilities to match her blow for blow. That being said, that does confirm I need to get stronger weapons into the ring and do a bit of reverse engineering of my own to ensure that she is having to react to me as opposed to being able to actively fight back, so thanks for the info.
>>132209 Make a custom race with civilight eterna built in their race. It would be much weaker, sure, but you could go around eating their Civilight eternas to make a giga Civilight eterna.
Almost finishing the Jedi Initiate jump, only ten drawbacks left.
>>132210 I mean, you can buy the same intelligence she has in the IS jump, just get some tech blackboxing and you should edge out fine.
Time stop is literally the coolest power ever and flying sword spam is number 2
>>132209 Whatever range you decide the recording function has, you can definitely assume the combat applications require closer proximity, since that seems to be an outcropping of its functions meant to connect people's perspectives >Where did the whole parallel universe seaborn network thing feature? I can't find where that was discussed in the story. Caerula Arbor. Mainline Mizuki is in mental contact with God-Mizuki (and in fact is the source of his name. Izumik was given his name by Mizuki who was playing at an arcade at the time and using that as is name in the High Scores).
>>132214 Having edgy eyes and being unironically chuuni as fuck is cooler.
>>132170 I thought Necrozma eats light itself?
>>132214 >>132217 Edgy eyes that can timestop and shoot swords.
>>132212 At last! A jump where in to publish my thesis on the dichotomy inherent in the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise!
>>132217 Kamui is in there somewhere
>>132221 MY ACCURSED EYES MAKE ME UNTOUCHABLE BY ALL!
>>132220 I preferred the side tangent on Democracy.
>>132220 Damnit, now i have to make a drawback about a crack version of the setting.
>>132219 No, edgy eyes that can sword and shoot timestops.
>>132210 Your strongest early-game weapon against Tabane is going to be your Impeller Field and various Impeller Field-related techniques. It's an entirely alien field of physics that Tabane has no fucking idea exists, and that gives you a massive advantage. She'll catch up quickly and I doubt it'll be more than a month, three at most, before she puzzles out her own Impeller Field; after that any Impeller Field tricks you figure out she'll copy and iterate on like a superintelligent AI, and begin throwing exotic new things at you at the same time. My recommendation is that you don't just plan to fight Tabane; plan to fight yourself, because Tabane's gonna steal all the tricks you use against her, upgrade them, and send them right back at you. Don't put deliberate weaknesses in your technology; Tabane's more clever than that and will figure those out easily. Don't expect the same trick to ever work twice, even if you use it in the same battle.
>>132225 I'll test that.
>>132220 Darth Academius, you monster!
>>132225 >>132227 I tested it.
>>132216 Hey, about Let reality give way to me - Are the phantoms limited to meele ancient weaponry? Could we call upon ancient sankta warriors? Can they cast arts of their own? How powerful is each individual phantom in general? Like, random average ancient warrior? Average Nightzmora warrior back on the day? Are they affected by your choice of race? Can you partially summon stuff with your illusions like weapons or armor?
>>132178 Good, playing a new WEG that is alright.
>>132214 Alright DIO/Gilgamesh.
>>132178 Just got home, currently watching the Vampfag in the Esoterrorists thread on 4/tg/ make himself look like an even more pathetic Gohanposter, found out an assignment got dumped on us last minute, enjoyed a new episode of the Sleep/Wake Cycle, and will probably be catching up on Stabbyness's Decolonize Dungeon campaign later inbetween doing assignments and working on the Ocean Game.
>>132232 DIO vs Gilgamesh fight would be the smuggest battle in history
>>132207 >Don't play the technological escalation game with Tabane. She will win What if I'm Eggman though?
>>132235 This is gonna end up with you riding some sort of hyperdimensional god while Tabane fights you in something like Getter Robo Emperor. It'll be very, very funny.
>>132236 It ends up in a fistfight, to which Eggman jumper handily wins.
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>>132195 >Ishar'mla >unfuck Terra
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>>132237 >Can outrun Sonic over short distances >Can send cars flying with a punch He could have beaten Sonic to death with his bare hands years ago, but he really wants to beat him with a giant robot.
>>132237 You GREATLY underestimate Tabane. She's not just a genius, she's also hilariously superhuman. She can rip apart metal with her bare hands and keep up with moving vehicles through simply running. She is described in series as being a "perfect human", someone who is naturally someething far, far beyond human in nearly every way.
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>>132230 In IS4 Tola's schizo ghost encampments shoot arrows at incoming expeditioners, so ranged weaponry is totally okay. Not sure about Arts, but I'd say as long as they were weak it'd be okay. Each is individually pretty weak, being essentially normal soldiers rather than any big hero units. They're definitely more dangerous than civilians, but they're also fragile ghosts that won't last long against strong fighters. Their main use is that they're basically a perpetual flood of mooks who spread a fear effect and just keep coming. Yes, given the implication of being ancestor ghosts, you can have them be affected by race. Whether or not you can partially summon things for yourself is an exercise in fanwanking, because calling the full army is all we ever see happen. Also Tola is based as FUCK. Seriously like the only descendent of an ancient badass lineage who actually makes the attempt to live up to the hype.
>>132240 Slower than sonic and weaker than eggman.
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>>132243 Arknights has such cool schizos.
The Jedi Initiate jump is finished. Give me some feedback.
>>132243 Get nacho arts, put me back in for seaborn corruption immunity and the teach enemies fear perk. Infinite cannibalism glitch.
>>132239 That's arguably even more impressive when you consider he's throwing those punches while keeping the bike steady without holding the handlebars or sitting completely centered thanks to the full upper body pivots.
>>132247 Doesn't even look like he's putting all that much effort into it, either. More of a slapping motion than an actual punch.
>>132239 Look, whenever there's some cosmic horror threatening everything Eggman just hides in the egg bunker and waits for Sonic to deal with it. I gotta feel like if he could solve the problem himself he would
>Go to Infinite Stratos >Take the super intelligence and super physical ability perks Would Tabane try to fuck you due to you being the only person in the world in the same league as her, or would she kill you due to you being the only person in the world who could pose a threat to her?
>>132245 My brain is mush tonight, but I'll try to give this a full read and come up with feedback tomorrow.
>>132249 Eggman works with Sonic to take down common threats, all the while planning to hijack said threat for his own ends.
>>132249 That's called "strategy." It's often used by the highly intelligent.
>>132250 The former is much more likely than the latter; it;s part of why she has her whole thing with Chifuyu in the first place.
>>132238 I mean as a full price companion it really likes me so it might be possible to make it work, hopefully. Maybe.
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>>132244 Like half the cast is mentally ill.
>>132241 >Also Tola is based as FUCK. Seriously like the only descendent of an ancient badass lineage who actually makes the attempt to live up to the hype. KHAGANQUEST. I want to make the Saber companion meet him just so they can continue their ancestor's rivalry.
So yeah. Important point. All this warring you do with Tabane? She's likely to take it as flirting. And VERY likely to reciprocate. She's a bit twisted though and by reciprocating I mean she's likely to try and kill you for funzies, all to push you to your limit and have the best fight possible. Why does it always come down to that?
>>132245 >>132251 Although after a quick skim I can already point out that the 800 and 1000 tier options shouldn't get discounts, as the Holocron Vault and Jedi Temple are the only things at that level TO discount.
>>132178 My sleep schedule is in place, but I'm exceptionally braindead right now. Procrastinating on getting the next video for my channel recorded, wiped my chain clean to start over in a way that I haven't decided yet, and watching The Walking Dead because melodrama with a dash of horror is just where my brain is right now.
>>132214 >According to Psycho the Double Eyes Sword Cultivators are literally the coolest thing possible Hilarious.
>>132256 Okay, but there's a difference in levels between most of the mentally ill characters, and the goddamn freaks who look at the Mongolian conquest of Eurasia and begin frothing at the mouth in anticipation, or the guy who hates the ocean so much that he literally spends all day stabbing his weapon into the waves hoping to kill it. >>132257 Or you could be an Aslan yourself, ignore the Victorian (GAY) throne, and pick up the Sargon Perk for powerleveling you and one other person via your autistic battle rivalry. Finish what your forefathers started.
Going to sleep. Good night, guys.
>>132263 Good night
>>132226 I mean, I already have the edge on the AI side via anamolous SCP tech letting me make AIs as smart as I am, and have 5-6 research AIs on my side which are at least as smart as her will give me an edge and allow me to suppress her while I get ahead. Plus, as long as I can get enough data on her crimes, I can hopefully turn the world against her with a small bribe of VK cores to sweeten the deal. Not that that will affect her ability to fight back, but it would make it harder for her to construct more IS from a resource perspective, at least. This is assuming she doesn't have a backdoor into the existing frames, of course, but still
>>132169 Actually I found something suitable in Norse Myth. >Mine, mine, mine -600 The great artists and craftsmen of your race only seem to serve the purpose of giving tools and weapons to other races, be they giants, gods or mortal heroes, just as the great kings of your race only seem to serve the purpose of amassing hordes of gold, just for other races to take it. This is not acceptable. You are able to afflict all of your possessions and everything you can call “yours”, whatever form or nature they may be, with horrible curses of your design. Whenever someone steals from you they will be cursed with horrible fates. Transformations turning them into mindless monsters or animals, greed in the hearts of their fellows that’ll turn to betrayal and murder and other general misfortunes. Eventually your treasures and possessions will always return to you with this curse. Even attempting to steal from you will result in a measure of this curse. Only things you freely gift or loan will be exempt and then only for the ones you gave it to.
>>132266 Gonna stick a curse on my everything that turns people into kindergartners.
>>132218 I did not read the question right. I just saw the light eating.
>>132265 >This is assuming she doesn't have a backdoor into the existing frames, of course, but still Not only does she have a backdoor into literally every single Frame, she outright customizes them on the fly for their pilots. For funzies. Fair warning: as part of showing off IS tech, she literally hacked every single government in the world, shot every nuke she had access to straight at Japan, and made her friend pilot the very first IS to catch all the nukes and prevent them from exploding. Just to show off how cool her tech was and that there was literally nothing anyone could do except play ball by her rules. She will give exactly zero shits about whether the rest of the world is on her side or not, and will figure out how to get resources just fine regardless.
>>132265 Assuming a tech genius doesn't have backdoors into their own shit is folly.
>>132265 >>132269 On the other hand, SCP stuff and anomalous tech may be exactly what you need to hard counter her. If it's scientific, she will figure it out. If it's magical or works on principles she can't access, then at best she can figure out how to optimally respond to it.
>>132239 Eggman wants to prove he's all-around better than Sonic, killing him alone is not enough. He's given up potential sneak-attacks on occasion, even. >https://youtu.be/M6MVPPqC7h0 Sonic doesn't react to that beam until it's already halfway past him. Pure warning shot.
Anyone know of some jumps where I could pick up a good forge? Like I can make my own but I woild enjoy something that has built in shenanigans
In the non-Freyr Percy Jackson jump does Hera count as a head of the Pantheon for having to take the fates drawback?
>>132273 Dragon quest 11 had one iirc. Summon Night has a stationary version, and a portable one.
>>132269 Hm. Hm. Okay, definitely put in the "actively suppress" category instead of passively supressing. Also, invest in absurdly restrictive cybersecurity, because jesus christ. >>132270 I mean, authors have made their supertech have similar stupid weaknesses in the past, you can't fault me for being somewhat hopeful. >>132271 Too bad I didn't go too much into anomalous tech in SCP beyond the AI thing and making unusually efficent technology. It would have been fun to put infohazardous copy protection into the VK cores. Actually... I need to review my build. I might actually be able to do that. Hilarity shall ensue regardless.
>>132273 ... Whoops, I forgot the GURPS Dungeon Fantasy jump doesn't actually offer the portable forge. That's something from the sourcebooks How about getting a forge EGO in Library of Ruina?
I would visit IS for the Frenchie and Brit. That's it.
>>132273 Fate/Sushi has a portable forge reality marble. A couple of the Exalted jumps have forge manses of varying power. The Eberron jump has a magic forge.
Is (Gene)ric Isekai the only Jump we have that offers explicitly infinite mana reserves?
>>132249 There aren't many things in Sonic that could threaten him, and the few things that do Sonic will deal with, it's like being Bulma
>>132281 Didn't the old generic isekai have that?
>>132277 Either way, she'll be happy for the challenge. Tabane's one of those types who's just doing all of this to get her best friend and only intellectual/physical peer (Chifuyu) to fight her to her absolute best abilities, which included putting Ichika Orimura (Chifuyu's younger brother) in life threatening situations and even (seemingly; he survived) killing him at one point. She was 100% okay with killing him and fucking with everyone just to have her destined battle with Chifuyu. You doing this constant escalating war against her is practically flirting for her. She will respond in kind. You may get a psychotic supergenius bunnygirl waifu who wants to kill you/be killed by you after all this. Fair warning.
>>132281 No. Majikoi has one too, IIRC, there's an item that grants infinite mana in one of the Castlevanias, and the original slime isekai jump has one. I think there's one in the Godzilla jump that Valeria made too >>132283 The old one has a perk that gives you an incredibly massive mana pool
Alright. I'm done with Volcanic Age. It dragged a bit in some places, but it's a pretty good read. The art generally wasn't great, the translations I found were fucked, but the writing was pretty decent, and the world building was some of the best in the genre. It actually took time to talk about concepts that those more familiar with the genre would ordinarily take for granted and build upon those concepts with unique, new ideas. Quite a few flaws, but had heart.
>>132281 No I know other jumps have it too, like Slime Isekai. In addition there's multiple jumps that let your mana Regen as fast as you can spend it like Witch in the Holy Night, Fate Kaleid and Japan through the Kaleidosticks, and some Castlevania jumps through the Chaos ring.
>>132287 Witch on the Holy Night has the Third True Magic, which literally gives infinite mana.
Is it worth colonizing Nasuland Earth or should I just loot the place of what I want then leave it in the dust?
>>132289 You should put a dedicated effort into killing Gaia, permanently, across all timelines.
>>132290 This leads to the Land of Steel, buddy.
>>132291 Every single star in the sky is an enemy. Kill them all.
1d100 = 56 Trying an idea You guys think it would be easier to convince some peasants my machine can make wires from processed ore or just can spit out parts?
>>132245 Saw some stuff you might wanna touch up before uploading... >New Jedi Order Goofed on the end of the line (has a "/" instead of " Force Points"). >Squall Clan The perk you get isn't formatted bold. >Echo of Destiny I take it you were going to add a Shatterpoint perk above it, but didn't scrub the note?
>>132289 Not really? It doesn't really have much in terms of special natural resources. Like I guess leylines are a decent power source, but they're pretty limited, and the environmental mana is decreasing over time
>>132273 I really like the ones in ActRaiser and Dark Souls 1. Former is a warehouse attachment, latter is portable.
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>>131994 SO, remember what I said about big UNCONFIRMED things in nWoD's cosmology? If I were to even try ranking the unconfirmed things, Ammut would sit comfortably at the top of their hierarchy. She is an undefined cosmic devourer primarily characterised as being acknowledged as supreme by all deities, only opposed by the resolve of Atum to keep her jaws pried open with the first island ever created and (if she is to believed) is herself the embodiment of Sekhem in it's most raw form. Creation AND destruction without law. It is even suggested her consumption of Sekhem is necessary for the function of the cosmology by reshaping it into new life like how herbivores fertilise their environments with poop. Fighting Ammut is in fact worse than merely the nWoD equivalent of fighting Cain and his You Lose sheet, it is tantamount to challenging God since Ammut is the closest thing to a genuine supreme being now it has been established there is a tier above even Supernal Realms. You take your endgame cultivator build, your Elder God Demonbane or your Madokami build, or your Unsong Celestial Machine set to maximum overflow, and you hope for the best. This is the scale of threat for which it's appropriate to import multiple companions to obtain SMT protagonist powers. This is what your post-Aetherophasmic Engine/Cosmogenesis Stellaris civilisation should be helping you deal with. Dwelling on the "this fat hungry bitch might be necessary to the continued function of Sekhem, Fate and everything" part, you've probably forgotten this but a while ago I wrote a fight scene against Ammut. My Jumper got all of the Arisen (who he had used Glory of the Garden to empower into getting the effects of the Mentaar perk i.e. to keep the heights of Utterance power while still freeing themselves in Apotheosis or Ascent; in the latter case he offered a Craft: Fate procedure to give them a permanent stay of residency using one of my Looms of Fate) to stand up and declare our boy Sutek was the GOAT (buffing the law of life's defiance like Luster Candy+++) to make external Sekhem inedible to her. Then I had the Lilim eat her alive to replicate her function within themselves. In game mechanics, the Lilim are a large scale application of the "Imperator factory" Noble goal that have also succeeded at a different Imperator goal (the integration of a Ninuanni continuum into themselves) and several combat-relevant Gifts (Noble production, symbiosis with Abyssals and Lunars in a fashion similar to the Onceborn, massive quantities of Yetzirah; I'm not going to get into Kabbalistic metaphysics because this is confusing enough as is but basically lovemaking is like giving all of your ki to Goku) then using the divine attributes Vastness, Deepness, Wanderer and Theft to subsume and restructure a cosmological constant. Or in layman's terms, the monstergirl hiveminds sunk their death venom enzymes into the life/entropy hunger monster to break it down into digestible concepts. >>131999 Not actually clear if that would poison her. There is precedence for Sekhem divine beings (the Shan'iatu specifically) being corrupted in way that doesn't involve mythopoeic mutilation. The problem is, well, the instigator of that corruption was...Ammut. This is beside the point that it's very difficult to MAKE Ammut do anything unless you're Atum with your sturdy rock right in the middle of her mouth. Assuming it does poison her, be concerned about the possibility of random Annunaki metastasisizing like cancers inside a sick Ammut, waking up and suddenly declaring that THEY'RE the new Sekhem god gang on the block. >>131996 It is not at all clear Ammut is actually suffering from her own hunger, merely desiring to satiate it and frustrated by the fact that stuff won't break down to be eaten and ejected again. She is kind of like a less considerate version of the Shifting Mound. >>132002 Oh yeah, as I assumed when I wrote the thingy the Judges probably would oppose killing Ammut. Not out of sympathy or anything, just because the lawtists would reflexively oppose any change to the status quo. >>132003 >>132036 Mummy Utterances and archmage Imperial spells are powerful in mostly different ways. Let me try to explain by cutting through a lot of wizardbabble. An archmage casting an Imperial spell is sort of like trying to gaslight reality (well, from the archmage's point of view he's trying to ENLIGHTEN reality to his interpretation of the Supernal but shuddup). He goes around channeling through leylines, making sure a 7th son of a 7th son is born on the equinox, founds a city named after his favourite dog and if everything goes well this eventually forms a Quintessence: A symbolic arrangement of circumstances that enables the archmage to cast a spell so powerful it was retroactively true all along. The effects of the spells CAN potentially be correspondingly significant like creating a new watchtower, returning Atlantis to the world or merging with a Supernal God. But it is insanely hard to make all the dominos fall so such a setup can take place, which is why archmages tend to settle for less ambitious, more subtle sweeping mystery play changes to the setting. A mummy using Utterances is kind of like an Exalt using Ghost-Eating Technique or banishing a demon. While the overall scale of magic a mummy can use is much smaller (apparently even Utterances are just a degraded form of the Nameless Empire's might in it's heyday, which itself was merely a poisoned chalice provided by the Shan'iatu, who are themselves mere fragments of the Judges), it is a priori to reality. The divine life energy and the divine words just go brr, and suddenly you drag Nyarlathotep into the courtroom. Or annul or redirect all magic aimed at you, including other Utterances. Or resurrects someone. Or yes, wipes a single discrete target from existence (like an archmage) like Okuyasu. >>131962 >does not stop her Eh, going by Dreams I would contend Atum IS the force actively preventing her from snapping down because in context Ammut is declaring that she has snapped down before and in fact intended to snap down before Atum started talking shit. And also because Dreams depicts Atum as continuously standing firm on the island to keep Ammut's jaws wide. If he didn't have to, he'd probably wander around smacking Judges upside the head and telling them to stop bullying everything and everyone because that's the first rule they came up with. >>132039 I don't usually advocate for monetisation at all costs, but I really wish they'd just give up on Bleach Abridged which has like a third of the UBW Abridged episodes' views, and concentrate on the series their audience clearly prefers. >>132196 It's always nice to find a hidden gem free of the tyranny of copyright law floating around there, The Tragedy of Man is around too last I checked.
I think I may make it a rule that while I can return the dead to life I can only do so if its not a suicide. Any good reasons for this other than it metsphysically being their choice? It just seems like a lot of hassle for a risky investment.
>>132293 What does the machine actually do?
>>132249 Eggman CAUSES most of those cosmic horrors to be fair.
>>132298 >Souls that willing forfeit themselves lose their hold on the world and cannot be returned >By diving in willingly for its own sake, they plunge in deeper than you can reach >Souls can refuse attempts to revive them, if they chose to die they'll refuse to come back >You're just bad at it
>>132290 >>132292 Don't you have CHALDEAS to be working on, Moneybills?
>>132284 nta, but it'd be kind of fun to be even just a mid-range jumper and just slowly drop hints at jumper brand weirdness by waiting a while before breaking out an esoteric energy or bit of material/tech that basically upends her own understanding of reality because and suddenly ki and/or psychic energy is on the table or there's like half a dozen ways to magic at something or whole ass new elements to particle physics with. Not even breaking out anomalous bullshit or stuff that runs purely on jumper-centric reality, just a string of breadcrumbs that may or may not also result in entirely too many things for her to want to try out on short notice when the tech trees each one unlocks really start compounding.
>>132298 Disincentivising content creators from killing themselves just for the shock value of being brought back to life again. >>132303 >Defending the Oort Cloud That fucking thing knows what it did.
>>132262 >Or you could be an Aslan yourself, ignore the Victorian (GAY) throne, and pick up the Sargon Perk for powerleveling you and one other person via your autistic battle rivalry. Finish what your forefathers started. In that case, is 11th king required to not be a jobber?
>>132299 Turns raw materials into parts, its a fabricator. I then use the parts for my builds and shop.
>>132306 No, you can endeavor to be a badass yourself, but it would give you big strongness buff like your GLORIOUS Padishah forefathers.
>>132293 >>132307 It's magic
>>132281 >the only Jump we have that offers explicitly infinite mana reserves? You could grab the Second or Third Magic from various Nasuverse Jumps (Witch on Holy Night, Prisma Illya, Fate/Stay Night) Third Magic - Your soul is now a perpetual motion machine and is thus immortal and capable of instantly replenishing your mana supplies for all of eternity Second Magic - You can draw mana from an infinite amount of parallel worlds to empower yourself and your spells
>>132291 Pull a Kiara, become Earth
>>132297 >now it has been established there is a tier above even Supernal Realms. If you said this during the DaveB era, there would be blood.
>>132312 The key thing here is that he had the awareness to specify he's delving into unconfirmed schizo lore pulls, which will surely prevent DaveB from manifesting in-Thread to make a Mage the Awakening dupe that gigawanks everything.
>>132312 DaveB became the thing he once swore to destroy, Supernal privilege will just have to cope with "merely" being able to have some mages survive in (some) Lower Depths in 2e.
Assuming you are a vampire who also has the ability to shift around organs in your body. What would be the best place to to put your heart in to avoid getting stacked? Thinking of having my vampire jumper in DnD learn the Warshaper class.
>>132313 Last I ever checked regarding DaveB, he was seething in a private discord over the Mummy writers having Utterances be utterly immune to Supernal magic. Which was funny, but I fucking dread to imagine how he's like now that the Supernal has gotten powercrept, even if it's through vague schizolore. Assuming he's even still online at all that is.
>>132315 Split it into multiple tiny hearts and scatter them through your chest in the shape of a constellation, requiring someone to punch the shape of the Big Dipper into you to cause you to finally die, even though as a vampire, you are already dead. Surely you would never run into such an individual.
>>132316 Honestly, Mummy stuff being immune to Supernal stuff if logical if you consider that it seems 100% to be a Lower Depth, where the light of the Supernal doesn't reach. Everything seems to be schizo mythology nonsense.
>>132316 >even if it's through vague schizolore I like the implication that DaveB perceives Mage lore as completely clearcut and straightforward.
>>132315 Depends on how much fleshshaping you can do. The torso is already pretty good but if you can shift your ribs around a bit to protect it better that would be a good upgrade.
>>132318 Even Lower Depths can be somewhat interacted with, at least from older lore and from my vague recollections of magefags spamming screencaps of DaveB at his worst at me. Utterances can't be messed with or prevented at all. And like Shard mentioned way up above, they have an Utterance that can delete even archmages from existence, something that (if you believe DaveB) no splat should ever be capable of. And admittedly, deleting archmages from ever having existed is the kind of thing reserved for Rank 8 tier spirits, and isn't generally a playable splat thing. >>132319 He absolutely does. In fact, going by some of the shit he used to spew all over the forums, he believed that it was the MOST clearcut game line and answered everything about every other splat completely accurately with no room for discussion. This shit is why he seethe whenever you brought up that stepping through Thorns in the Hedge could permanently diminish a mage's power, or how they couldn't fuck with the Flame of a Promethean without a qashmal descending to kindly revoke their existence privileges. The man was petty at a level I've never really seen before.
>>132321 >The man was petty at a level I've never really seen before. Not even on all your time on /v/?
>>132321 I can try to mentally reconcile this, at least. Utterances are extrapolations of the Rite of Return's nature, and the Rite of Return can be considered the direct working of a (or multiple) high Rank entities. Non-Archmage Mages already can't directly contest the effects of Rank 6+ entities, so this line of reasoning would actually explain them being unable to fuck with Utterances at all. Also, could I get the name of the Utterance that can theoretically delete Archmages, so I can comb the books for it? Even if it can theoretically do that, if it provokes a roll-off or Clash then it should still fail unless the Archmage lets it happen, since they auto-win Clashes against anything that isn't Rank 6+.
This is completely fucking incomprehensible.
>>132321 >the MOST clearcut game line Vampire gets screwed over again by somehow having an even more reactionary approach to writing it than Werewolf, to the point that Vampire is more mysterious than Mage purely from sheer determination to never EVER elaborate on it or depict vampires as anything except detritus left behind by spooky owls.
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>>132322 /v/ schizos act in a way that means that literally nobody outside of their fellow samefagging schizos believes a word they say and ultimately, they can't really do much beyond try to poorly poison a well with buzzwords. DaveB had actual power and control as a lead-dev at one point and tried to use it to twist and browbeat all other writers into obeying his view of the cosmology alone. He essentially prevented anyone else from doing anything if they didn't play in /his/ sandbox and always had to have "the final say" at all times, even for other writers' work. Nobody could discuss CofD earnestly for years because the man had made it impossible for anything about if to not just be pure magewank. >>132323 >since they auto-win Clashes against anything that isn't Rank 6+. Funnily enough, Dave seethed over this exact thing; Rebuke The Vizier allows Mummies to shut that shit down instantly and without fail and it drove him up the fucking wall.
>>132201 valkyrie cores are massively, ludicrously superior to IS cores, at least once they've got some decent tech put in them and had time to upgrade them. Iirc the quest author established that valkryie cores are basically IS cores on steroids. In the quest casually going from ground to orbit in a matter of seconds and engaging targets dozens if not hundreds of miles away is completely normal. The firepower of a VC, depending on loadout, is also going to be massively superior to an IS core especially since they've got dimensional inventories that allow them to store extra munitions. Rather than mini-missiles VC's simply extrude the end of the launcher of their missile launchers out of their inventory in order to launch actual proper full sized super-tech missiles. VC's can also massively accelerate a persons perception and reflexes to allow them to engage in combat at speeds that a regular human could not only not react at but which would actually tear their bodies apart simply from the sheer acceleration involved. TLDR - Valkyrie Cores are so far superior to IS Cores that there is simply no comparison even before you get into the fact that VC's passively upgrade any technology integrated into them over time.
>>132079 With femdom yuri?
>>132324 It's OK, it's just Exalted but Egyptian-themed.
>>132326 I'm not exactly a guy who knows much about the behind the scenes nonsense, I'm assuming DaveB wrote Mage, and then gets pussy when someone says his special snowflake splat loses in any capacity. Is that right?
>>132330 Pissy, you stupid phone.
>>132330 You are correct.
>>132326 >Rebuke the Vizier I can see how this drove him crazy, since Tier 3 somehow doesn't provoke Clashes, which is how that shit works in like every other gameline. That said, this doesn't seem to be the one that lets you erase Archmages. >>132330 DaveB was only one of Mage's writers, and he also wrote for other lines like Changeling, but in general yes. Mage was his obvious favorite, and he liked to defend it.
>>132328 No, but she keeps asking to include another woman in our relationship
>>132333 You'd have to ask Shard about that one specifically, but I've also seen it mentioned in /tg/'s archives, so it does apparently exist and isn't just some feverdream concocted by too much Mage lore.
>>132335 *too much Mummy lore, I mean.
>>132281 Get the failed cosmic cube from marvel earther's mightiest heroes and then the perk from Lost Odyssey that lets you link to items to internalize their effects and use that on the cosmic cube. You now have infinite capacity for any sort of energies. Then drink an X-ether from final fantasy or something to completely fill your now infinite reserves. The item linking perk trick should work since SJ-chan explicitly stated it could work on hypertech items like DC power rings and such.
>working on jump build for Black Crusade 1, 2 & 3 >literally taking me multiple days just to read through everything and decide on what I want >haven't even got to part 3 yet Man now I remember why I don't use Black Crusade in most of my chains. I really like it and the scenarios but good lord it takes forever to get through it.
>>132323 >the name of the Utterance Forgetting The Name (Book of the Deceived, p. 99). It's notable the third tier of it is SPECIFICALLY for targetting other Mummies-and even then it can't actually interfere with the Rite of Return, merely inflict a lasting case of amnesia. All other "supernatural beings" with no clear delineation though? Just inexplicably destroyed. There is another one, Unspeaking What Is Known (Lore of the Deceived, p. 12) that can forcibly annihilate the body of an archmage. Explicitly. Technically speaking it's not LETHAL if used against something that can survive without it's body (a Hastur reference is alluded to as one of the primordial demons the Nameless Empire disintegrated back in the day) but uh, to directly quote the Utterance "Magic that would circumvent the spirit of this ban as decreed by Fate is likewise annulled by the universe itself and therefore cannot be cheated with clever technicalities or alternate stratagems". Apparently the Judges are rules lawyers as well as autists.
>>132338 I'm sorry, multiple fucking days?
>>132323 >>132339 I was also going to bring up Redacting What Is Known, which at Ren (the highest tier), fully removes a creature from the world, making it so they never existed. It was one of the options I was going to suggest for what Shard was referencing.
What would a Rank 10 NWOD Demon be capable of?
>>132338 >>132340 I mean I idle for weeks sometimes buy I also agree about Black Crusade because I like being meticulous.
>>132333 >>132335 Alright, I looked at it and I think it's meant to be Forgetting The Name, whose Tier 2 allows one to erase supernatural beings. It doesn't clarify anything about Archmages, and provokes a rol-off, which means they should still win. >>132339 Looking at it, Tier 3 of Forgetting the name ONLY affects Mummies. The first sentence is, "This tier may only target other mummies," and the one to affect other supernaturals is Tier 2, which I described above. >Unspeaking What Is Known This is more like it, but it's also filled with technicalities and conditions to work, and in what it actually does. For one, it still requires a roll off (meaning the Archmage should win unless he lets himself lose) and the Mummy needs the Archmage's true name to even attempt it, and must be actively perceiving him. It also only bans them from making a new meat body for a millennium, but doesn't stop them from doing big magic to keep manipulating the world. >>132341 Is Redacting What Is Known different than Unspeaking What Is Known?
>>132338 I feel like this is a problem that some people suffer from with any long jump, while other people never suffer from it at all.
>>132344 >and the Mummy needs the Archmage's true name to even attempt it, and must be actively perceiving him. Another unrelated Utterance allows Mummies to use their own true name in lieu of the true names of their targets if they dont hsve them IIRC. >Is Redacting What Is Known different than Unspeaking What Is Known? The specific Utterance is actually "Redacting The Word", which does as I described.
>>132341 >>132344 You guys talking about Redacting The Word? (Guildhalls of the Deathless, p. 115). Just to be clear I wasn't weighing in on rolloffs or not, just the fact that the metaphysical forces sponsoring Utterances can contest Imperium at all. In practice a Mummy's going to be at a disadvantage against an archmage in most circumstances given they're at their most powerful when they're also at their most mindless; several Utterances including some I mentioned spell out that Utterances themselves are merely a degraded form of the Nameless Empire's full power, when they would actually wipe stars from the sky for pissing them off. >>132346 Ah right, you were.
>>132344 I'd also say that going "Archamges autowin CoW against lesser enitties" is deeply pointless because as we've established, all Utterances are a paltry reflection of what the Nameless Empire got up to at its height courtesy of the Shan'iatu who are in turn small fragments of the Judges. The Nameless Empire could use the same power these dervie from to wipe stars out of the sky, a feat which Archmages would need to seek Quintessence to pull off massive Imperial Spells to replicate. A newly awakened Mummy may not be able to do that, but the principle behind their power is still the same. Treating them as "lesser entities"'implies they're on the same playing field as the other splats, which decidedly isn't the case. The only time I'd say that an archmage would definitively win a Clash against a Mummy is if that Mummy has been awake long enough or has achieved the Ascent, and by that time, a normal person could probably beat the former up.
1d100 = 2
>>132349 You successfully hit on Psychoanon.
>>132350 A bar so low the Devil keeps tripping over it in Hell.
>>132350 1d100 = 49 Disengage, disengage!
>>132352 Psychoanon isn't against it, but he's not for it either.
>>132346 >Another unrelated Utterance allows Mummies to use their own true name in lieu of the true names of their targets if they dont hsve them IIRC. That's pretty strong. >"Redacting The Word" Found it in Guildhalls of the Deathless. While one of the prerequisites for using it against an Archmage can be fulfilled by successfully using another Utterance already mentioned, I still don't think this would work. It requires the Mummy to steal the Archmage's soul, which they're innately immune to.
Question for those more knowledgeable about Mummy; what is Anpu? Is he a Shan’iatu, or something else?
>>132354 >It requires the Mummy to steal the Archmage's soul, which they're innately immune to. Weirdly it's easier to shred an archmage's soul than outright steal it, given the Hedge can. Anyway just to be 100% clear on the matter I at least am not talking about MUMMIES going around beating up mages who can enact the ultimate form of scry and die, just the gods who created them standing at a higher tier of existence. probably being able to if they wanted. Which they don't. They just want the Sothic Wheel to keep turning.
>>132355 Anpu is the former king of Duat before the Judges showed up and kicked him out. Now he's the Anubis expy of the setting, who rules the borderlands of Duat and advises mummies going back and forth from resurrection. Apparently he is Sutek's son, and Sutek made Anpu as an advocate for the deeds of the living. He fucking hates the Judges but can't really be arsed to rebel against 42 cosmic assholes openly, although he does gleefully shittalk the Shan'iatu when they start realising they screwed themselves over by listening to Ammut.
>>132356 Oh, I don't doubt that the Judges could nuke an Archmage; Archmages are cosmic glass canons. I only take exception to the notion it stands "above" the Supernal rather than being a strange outside-context Lower Depth phenomenon that is separate with the two largely mutually non-interactable to one another.
>>132358 Ah, fair enough. I must caveat everything I've said about the Judges and the Arisen creation mythos in that it comes from a source described in-universe as a heretical text written by the guy who allegedly invented Apotheosis as a means to escape the Sothic Wheel (the cosmic cycle of Sekhem that regulates when mummies die and are reborn, and possibly also the movements of the stars) and who is purportedly communing with several of the deities involved (the non-Judge ones who actually give a shit) to relay their accounts through the flow of Sekhem itself. While I decided to take Dreams of Avarice at face value for my chain, nWoD is one of those settings that will likely never offer 100% canon and unambiguous explanations for what's really going on despite certain writers pushing for theirs to be the one truth. I mean, over in Demon the Descent you have the God-Machine just casually commencing the end of the universe without warning and that's just a campaign for Demon players. There is NO lore on that. The G-M just decided to pull a Zeno.
>>132359 >nWoD is one of those settings that will likely never offer 100% canon and unambiguous explanations for what's really going on despite certain writers pushing for theirs to be the one truth. Not helped by the fact the setting is dead.
What Worm fanfics deserve jumps?
>>132361 A second WormxExalted crossover as a joke.
>>132362 Are there even any others long enough to turn into jumps?
>>132361 >Worm fanfics One that gets rid of the alien bullshit if that exists.
>>132361 Either Adaptation or Scaling Up
>>132361 Does Constellations have one? If not then that one.
>>132361 That one where Jumpchan gives Daphne omnipotence that was written to fuck with a fanfic drawback.
>>132363 LONG enough? Presumably, these things can go for a while from what I've seen. That said, the only one that immediately springs to mind is one I accidentally found a bit ago while looking for custom Infernal Charms, though I didn't fully read it. From that small glimpse I got, Taylor gets an Infernal Exaltation. Her Past Life Memories are goddamn Bright Shattered Ice, and Jack Slash ends up getting Desus' Exaltation.
>>132361 Worm x DC or Worm x Marvel
>>132367 Daphne as in the mary sue lesbian mind control obsessive?
>>132370 I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me that I wrote that instead of Taylor.
>>132371 No, it's Daphne time now.
>>132368 >Jack Slash gets Desus' Exaltation Solar or Infernal? Jack doesn't exactly seem to fit either of their criteria.
>>132371 Go to bed anon, sleep is good for you.
>>132371 >>132372 No please Daphne is just an awful protagonist, go back to Taylor. At least the story can acknowledge that she's retarded.
>>132375 I think it was Abyssal. He got it as Taylor was murdering him.
>>132376 Fuck, meant for >>132373
Looking at the Watchmen jump and I cannot help but wonder what happens if jumper just steals all the nukes to stop the Cold War.
I'm surprised no one's talked about Covenant
>>132379 What, the…movie? Inheritance laws are a bitch even before warlocks get involved, what’s to talk about?
>>132361 Dollmaker!
>>132381 Poppet, my beloved(s).
>>132380 Nah, Worm/Vampire The Masquerade fanfic
>>132381 Whoever does that one is going to need to make a third OC big bullshit power meant to challenge the protagonist and his rival.
>>132383 >Interlude 27b >"Vampire 20's writing."
>>132384 Persona. Unironically, meme tier Wildcard status, possibly with social links as a literal thing. It's tarot themed, which iirc the bro and his evil twin were themed after, it implies a heavy amount of swag, and the closer the user gets to other people, the more powerful they become - both of them. So like, the user gets a power based on the girl they're flirting with, but the girl also gets more powerful based on how high her social link gets. Battle Harem/Poly, instead of disposable minions like Dollmaker gets.
>>132372 The official rankings for specialties, from worst to best are: >Chi: It takes far too much effort to grow stronger, and using it for mind control will always be like fitting a square peg in a round hole >Chemistry: It's just science, but worse because of how specialized and limited it is in comparison to its older brother >Psionics: Not horrible, but telepathy isn't the instant-win button you might expect unless you already completely outclass the target, and reality warping, though cool and powerful, takes so long to learn that you'd be lucky to have it at a usable level by the end of the year >Technology: The best specialty for growing fast because you can just steal stuff and modify it for your own purposes, plus the extensive library of the school means you've got a lot of raw info to work with. Nanites are also a handwavy "do anything" tool, and the specialty gets wanked a fair bit due to it being the MC's main one >Magic: The best specialty because it just lets you do whatever you want. You'll face some bottlenecks from personal power growth and resource acquisition, and you won't grow as fast as technology does in the early game, but the sheer versatility more than offsets this. As a side note, magic is basically just Nen >Special tier - Hypnosis: Can't really be ranked in relation to the other specialties because of how debilitatingly hyper-specialized it is in comparison to them, you either see it as S+ tier or F- tier. It lives or dies by its "no one is immune" gimmick, and you have to larp as a Pokemon trainer while everyone is gaining crazy personal strength
On a scale of 1 to 10 how petty is it to curse someone to always find Legos in their shoes the moment they put them on, over being refused service because of our appearance?
>>132388 I'd give it a solid 7, maybe even an 8; that's very petty but 9 or 10 should require something a bit more special.
>>132388 A hard 8.
>>132387 hwat?
>>132388 Serious question, do I get the keep the legos afterwards? Because I would actually consider taking that if I got to fill up one of those lego store stud containers full of random shit as a result.
>>132388 how much can you sell them for?
>>132388 Depends on who it is. Some people deserve it.
>>132392 All it does it puts legos in your shoes every time you put them on, so theoretically infinite random legos.
>>132384 There were two versions of the rival. Because one was standard Tarot and the other was Inverted Tarot. So that makes three major powersets.
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>>132388 >our appearance >our 7, it’s pretty unfair for a hivemind to blame an individual for being unable to provide enough food to feed the whole collective. >in their shoes >the moment they put them all …lowered to a 4 assuming the service worker is also a hivemind. >>132342 There’s multiple things called demons in nWoD, and the Descent ones don’t have Rank. If you’re talking about the Akathartoi, there is a Rank 10 one (who is pretty much spelt out to be the Devil/the Zoroastrian Angra Mainyu) and theoretically he should be able to destroy the setting if ever summoned. So either the catch is he’s balls-hard to summoned or he just…doesn’t care, and is just chilling. >>132289 According to Goetia, Nasuland Earth is the only place in the universe that has a functioning concept of death. Which isn’t to say stuff can’t be destroyed by violence elsewhere, but if you put it together in the same approximate shame it’ll just keep trucking and the permanence of mortality isn’t a thing. Also the history of the planet is jointly managed by the collective survival neurosis of humanity, and the planet itself (which is schizophrenic and can’t decide if it loves humans as it’s children or hates and fears them as a system separate from itself-to the extent it has produced at least one dog-squirrel thing created specifically to be the ultimate human killer then proceeded to do nothing with it. The being that is the closest thing the planet has to a functioning brain splits the difference by being vaguely fond of humanity in an abstract “what funny pets, I’ll protect you from my other progenitor’s vestiges” sense while also showing no remorse for wiping them out on a whim. Did I mention she has the power to throw the moon at the Earth, or vice versa by warping probability?). In many depicted timelines, both ultimately fail to prevent one mass extinction event or another. You should probably colonise somewhere else. >>132178 Eh, good be worse. Cheap pizza is turning out to be surprisingly good. >>132026 That is unironically the current solution, except instead of a rod it’s a whole island created by the progenitor god Atum. It seems Ammut is either really lazy or doesn’t have hands and is some kind of Pac Man/Kirby-like entity. >>131959 There are less setting-spanning apocalypses and the most frequent ones don’t change anything meaningfully for the majority of supernatural beings, but there are also way more factions of malicious higher order entities instead of everything being traceable back to God being afraid of the dark. >>131895 There is no justice in nWoD, only the law enforced by might. The Sundered World implies apart from being poisoned, the advent of agriculture and animal husbandry made hunting as a concept more redundant and further weakened Father Wolf. >>131880 Ammut would probably just start demanding you give her the solar system too, she’s provably not very trustworthy when it comes to bargains and agreements. Also space is full of weird eldritch spirits, even as near as the solar system. >>131838 Jenova. Prototype. ORT. Fatalis in Monster Hunter. Oh, and I guess Metroid now Samus has finally been shown actually using her Metroid heritage
Life can only exist because it can locally violate thermodynamics.
Burger+wings, chicken sammich, pizza, or burrito?
>>132399 nissin cup ramen
>>132399 Burger and wings. I prefer pizza for sharing, and you didn't mention a side with the chicken sammich or burrito, so the burger wins by having a side.
>>132399 Burrito. Too many carbs in that other shit.
>>132397 >and the Descent ones don’t have Rank The jump talks about having a Rank.
>>132397 >The being that is the closest thing the planet has to a functioning brain splits the difference by being vaguely fond of humanity in an abstract “what funny pets, I’ll protect you from my other progenitor’s vestiges” sense while also showing no remorse for wiping them out on a whim. In fairness, Melty Blood seems to be a timeline where humanity is on the road towards extinction as things stand while also being on the road to killing the Planet, which is why Archetype: Earth/Hime-Arc decided, as you said on a whim, that if She/the Planet is going to die anyway, she might as well do it herself. Even then, she was going to spare Shiki, Ciel, and an unspecified number of other Misaki Town named characters (Akiha is probably on that list). Humans getting wiped out in the process is secondary to the "I thought about killing myself for a sec, so now I HAVE to do it, especially after I told Ciel, she'd be disappointed otherwise"
>>132401 side of fries on the sammich. Well, two sammiches and some fries, they're kinda small. >>132400 Out.
>>132399 Burrito, might go with a burger or sammich if they came with fries or a pizza if I want leftovers for later.
>>131838 The Thing jump lets you be The Thing. Also Lovecraft's Shoggoths arguably work like this if we ignore the canonical "Actually, they're just one big cell" bit of nonesense.
>>132245 It's highly annoying that backgrounds list the perks they discount, but the perks themselves don't. So if I want to buy a perk, I have to go back and check to see if it has a discount and which background its discounted to. >Races >If they offer one ability, pay 200 Force Points for them > If they offer multiple abilities, pay 400 Force Points. I know nothing about star wars races, but I guarantee you that this is unbalanced and exploitable. >Lightsaber Path >Knowledge Path >Force Path Why do these divisions of the perks section exist? It feels like you want to make me choose whether I specialize in lightsabers, knowledge, or the force and get discounts for that, but there's no place for me to choose one of those paths as a background. >Chosen by a Mentor This background is far worse than the other backgrounds in its own section. It gives nothing, and its sub-backgrounds give one free item each. Meanwhile Leaving the Order's sub-backgrounds give exclusive perks (why should any of these perks be background exclusive?) and The Jedi Service Corps gives a +200 CP stipend for general perks in addition to its sub-backgrounds giving exclusive perks. Why does this jump about ostensibly being an apprentice Jedi even have a background for being a graduate from the temple who has left the order in the first place? >Force Affinity >Choose three. Seriously? This is Jumpchain, not a freeform "pick three powers" CYOA. We spend points out of a budget to buy powers, with each power being given a price that allows it to be bought independently. At most, a section like this gets a stipend of its own. Not "you get exactly three powers, no more no less."
>>132290 Uh...why? Most of the objectionable stuff 'the World' does is stuff determined by the Common Sense of Man and enforced by the Human Order. I guess you can say that the Planet/Nature is what put the Human Order in charge and blame it by proxy, but aside from punting the gods out and crippling the Phantasmals, everything else was Humanity as a collective with some prodding by YHWH doing its own thing. The worst thing you can say about the Planet is that it has overly strong opinions on what its kids should do after it dies, but I don't think "Don't cannibalize my corpse after you kill me" is THAT big an ask.
I have successfully fluffed one drawback today. How's everyone else's jumps coming along?
>>132403 There’s been a misunderstanding. Angels (being wholly spiritual) have Rank, Demons have Primum, and no Primum is not a 1:1 measures of powerlevel comparable to the fullness of what Rank is capable of. Primum is linear, Rank is quadratic in terms of how dangerous a Rank 4 spirit is compared to a rank 1-and eventually, exponential. That said Primum is arguably a better deal at Ranks 1-5 if you know what you’re doing. You get more bang for your Exploits/Embeds without having to be pigeonholed into a specific area of influence or being in danger of having your core spirit nature influenced by your domain getting fucked with. >>132404 The planet does not seem to understand the concept of there being nothing wrong with suicide LACKING the murder-suicide part. Also if the planet is wilful enough to contact another planet to make an Arc and create a Fou, it’s very silly of it not to just tell Arc to work on ways for it to survive.
>>132411 It still annoys me how Demons get their own unique power, but they were too lazy with Angels so they just slapped the spirit rules on them.
>>132410 I was supposed to be working on it but played and idle game for 3 hours instead
>>132413 I spent my entire day off just watching youtube and this thread. I'm not sure what's wrong with me that I don't even play games anymore.
>>132414 Eh, it's one time sink worth dropping probably if you aren't super passionate about them
>>132409 >The worst thing you can say about the Planet is that it has overly strong opinions on what its kids should do after it dies, but I don't think "Don't cannibalize my corpse after you kill me" is THAT big an ask. Did the world manage to tell humanity that it wants them to move out?
>>132340 It's 393 pages of text to go through and keep track of across all three black crusade jumps. I'm not saying I'm spending all day on each of those days reading them but I've probably spent at least 10 hours so far just reading and I'm still not quite at the end of the 3rd document.
>>132414 It's just a natural consequence of aging. As the responsibilities and burdens continue to ramp up, it will get harder and harder to find the motivation and sink the time in. Once you get into your late 30s, it's a struggle to find the time for it, especially if you reach the point where you're treading water to keep the finances solvent. Going doesn't really get better until much later on.
>>132412 Yeah, that kind of bothers me too. Angels seem weird enough to warrant their own power system. >>132416 The planet has never, to anyone's knowledge, actually spelt out to human representatives that it wants them to move out no. The planet is really fucking stupid and violent.
>>132418 I don't think anons problem is not having enough time or struggling to keep his finances solvent.
>>132418 Mi amigo I had the entire day basically doing nothing but being on my tablet.
>>132420 I'm not saying that is anon's problem right now? I'm saying that people eventually hit a point where ignoring real life stops working, and for one reason or another, they will lose motivation for what they used to do. The finances thing was just an example, albeit a pretty common one nowadays as things continue to get tougher. I went through the same thing as anon years ago, and that was before I went 300k in debt.
>>132422 You're still living better than Europeans so shut up, your 300k in debt to me sounds like some xianxia number because I can't even fathom such a big sum of cash.
>>132410 I finished a jump. It lacks just the boilerplate (import companions, age roll, outro, etc) But perks, items, drawbacks, intro, starting locations and particular companions are all done. Weirdly, it's not a jump I've ever really talked about doing, but I was rereading the series and ended up just writing the jump. Gonna save it for the Christmas rush. Started an idea doc for the next book I've started to read, but not sure I can dig enough items to make it possible. Gonna reread a couple Tarzans after this book so hopefully Tarzan next week.
>>132423 You'd be surprised what people are willing to loan to you, on very little basis of whether you can actually repay it or not. Many of these loans carry interest rates of over 15 to 20% in the States, so that 300k becomes well over a million. All it means in practice is that you never actually get the money (and I didn't get the money either), you just live paycheck to paycheck until you pay off the interest in full.
>>132411 >The planet does not seem to understand the concept of there being nothing wrong with suicide LACKING the murder-suicide part. The Planet is confused on whether it should feel bad about its children eating each other (Tiamat on the other hand is A-Okay with that), so expecting it to understand that kind of nuance is kinda pushing it. >Also if the planet is wilful enough to contact another planet to make an Arc and create a Fou, it’s very silly of it not to just tell Arc to work on ways for it to survive. That would make logical sense. Unfortunately, it doesn't suit Nasu's metanarrative and themes surrounding the inevitability of death and the need to entrust the future to the next generation. >>132416 Not explicitly, bit it's kinda hard-coded into human culture to be directed to go into space based on Çatalhöyük lore from Extra. Also, Notes humanity isn't actually humans. Homo Sapiens Sapiens functionally died out when they killed the Planet, causing the Grain to spill back out of the Planet. They did engineer two successor species though...who immediately proceeded to start a genocidal war of extermination against each-other to determine who'd rule the planet's cooling corpse, using super-weapons that substantially depleted the resources available to them. Notes humanity, in other words, is humanity's two children trying to murder each other to claim the world ruined by their parent, only for the alien god-monsters to show up to kill them both. Arguably, absent the TYPEs, whichever humanity managed to wipe the other out probably would've expended too many resources in their genocide to actually get off the Planet afterwards, dooming them to extinction. Even if humanity suceeds and kills the TYPE's who aren't stuck in the atmosphere, they're gonna burn up a lot of resources they are never getting substitutes for. It's essentially just putting off their inevitably death to some centuries down the line rather than it happening right now, because they actively fucked themselves over. >>132419 It's also the natural course for sapient species who cut themselves off from the natural cycles to either leave their Planet of birth or die with it. It's the future the Planet wants. It's the future Humanity as a collective wants. Its the future the primordial Earth Mother Goddess wanted. It's the future Gil wanted. It's the future Solomon and YHWH wanted. It's the literal one long-term way for humanity to not inevitably go extinct. The whole series is basically screaming at the audience "GO TO SPACE". But a lot of the time Nasu humanity is just...too self-indulgent and self-destructive to actually do it. Notes is the embodiment of that, humanity having all the tools they need to get to the Sea of Stars, but preferring to engage in pointless kin-strife instead.
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>>132411 >There’s been a misunderstanding. Angels (being wholly spiritual) have Rank, Demons have Primum, and no Primum is not a 1:1 measures of powerlevel comparable to the fullness of what Rank is capable of. Primum is linear, Rank is quadratic in terms of how dangerous a Rank 4 spirit is compared to a rank 1-and eventually, exponential. So Demons are just worse then angels?
>>132421 As long as someone else is taking care of you and you don't have to worry about anything else, just enjoy it. Even if you feel like you're living in a stupor, at least you're living comfortably.
>>132427 They're cut off from the God Machine and all its support/infrastructure. In exchange, they're actually people and have free will.
>>132426 >It's also >It's the >It's the >It's the >It's the >It's the >It's the The planet is very bad at just straight up telling people instead of letting Divine Spirits do it's talking for it. It's not like going to space will automatically solve every problem ever anyway, OC3 made very clear that the Servantverse is one natural continuation of the Age of Will >The Planet is confused The planet seems to be confused about many things, like whether trusting Crimson Moon Brunestud and ORT (now known far and wide as a PLANET EATER) is a good idea. But yeah, the real enemy in Fate is the metanarratives about inevitable death and succession. >>132427 Uh, like in terms of objective performance...yes?? Demons are literally broken angels. Apart from personhood all they get from falling is the ability to hack reality to do Exploits which while potentially powerful are also relatively localised.
>>132408 >I know nothing about star wars races, but I guarantee you that this is unbalanced and exploitable. >Jedi youngling Abeloth
>>132431 Yeah I just completely gave up on giving him feedback when I listed out my concerns for his take on Kotor and he just went "nah bro, in my opinion the jump is perfect in any way" at me, and simply decided not to use his jumps. Which is completely hypocritical of me because when I tried to tell the CYOA bodymod the same thing and he also went "no this is fine, the trust system works" I immediately abused that. I simply happen to have more investment in certain CYOA settings than I do in anything he's jumpmade for. >>132431 The funny thing is this isn't even the first time it's happened, Tales of the Jedi also had a very open ended Star Wars race option IIRC
>>132430 >The planet is very bad at just straight up telling people instead of letting Divine Spirits do it's talking for it. It's not like going to space will automatically solve every problem ever anyway, OC3 made very clear that the Servantverse is one natural continuation of the Age of Will Oh, it very much won't solve everything. But it effectively solves their resource depletion issue and ensures that random Planet-killing phenomena that can get past the timeline fuckery can't wipe humanity out in one go. Though, whether the Servantverse is actually the Age of Will seems like it's kinda a flip-flop between the actual Servantverse sections and implied-but-not-specified-background-lore, and OC3 like you said. With the former suggesting its not quite there, while the latter suggests it is. But Nasu retcon'd how the Reverse Side interacts with timelines between Camelot and Avalon le Fay, so this isn't really a surprise. That being said, yeah, the Planet is shit at communicating to things that aren't other Planets. It's better when it has an actual body to ground it (i.e. Archetype: Earth) but for whatever reason it doesn't take advantage of that...seemingly out of either respect for Arcueid (who is also the Planet, and Crimson Moon, but is distinct from and the child of both) or just being too gosh damn sleepy. Overall, I'm not saying the Planet is smart or wise or anything. Just that it's not malicious and that by cosmic standards, it's not being that unreasonable in expecting the cosmic locust swarm that is humanity to jump at the opportunity to find new spaces to expand into. >The planet seems to be confused about many things, like whether trusting Crimson Moon Brunestud and ORT (now known far and wide as a PLANET EATER) is a good idea. I mean, we saw this back in MBAA. Arcueid's air-head persona and her serious pre-Shiki persona are both noticeably more grounded, wise and for lack of a better word 'people-smart' than the Planet. Of the solar family, Earth seems to be the dunce. >But yeah, the real enemy in Fate is the metanarratives about inevitable death and succession. I'm tempted to say Nasu's giantess fetish is also in the running, but I can't claim second place for it so eh.
>>132432 Spazzwave generally wants engagement and interaction instead of feedback. On one hand it's fair and I understand why he needs it, but on the other hand I do feel that over time, there will be more people who see his wips and ignore them. The fact that he's trying to mimic Gene when it comes to obsessing over the hobby and pumping out jumps makes it more noticeable.
>>132432 looks like you misclicked a reply >Tales of the Jedi it has a list of races and a general humanoid "within reason" option that just explicitly excludes vong
>>132433 >But Nasu retcon'd how the Reverse Side interacts with timelines between Camelot and Avalon le Fay, so this isn't really a surprise What did Nasu change?
>>132436 Prior to Avalon le Fay, it seemed like there was one Reverse Side of the World for the whole Planet/Tree of Time (though different ones for different universes/Trees of Time, ala Prillya and probably Servantverse), with the timelines being a phenomena isolated to the Surface of the Planet/Age of Man texture. This could be seen with how the Bedivere of Goddess Rhongomyniad ended up on Avalon, and then Merlin sent him from Avalon (which is in or adjacent to the Reverse) off to the FGO timeline. It's also related to how high-tier gods exist off the Time Axis as defined by the Human Order. But for Avalon le Fay's plot to happen, the timeline splitting needs to make a Reverse Side of the World for each timeline, otherwise it can't actually happen.
>>132426 >Not explicitly, bit it's kinda hard-coded into human culture to be directed to go into space based on Çatalhöyük lore from Extra. So what you’re saying is I should use my Tsukihime Alchemist build to start inventing magical space travel.
>>132433 >Just that it's not malicious I would...strongly dispute that solely from the fact that Primate Murder comes into being in Tsukihime timelines, and is still at least a potentiality in PHH ones. >Earth seems to be the dunce And the Oort Cloud is apparently a goddamn serial killer now. >giantess fetish At least the giantess fetish is also responsible for saving the world instead of just being a cause for it's destruction. >>132435 Ayep, it keeps happening. >>132434 That's disappointing, I will never understand people who need engagement and interaction even though I am also aware my own "THING I AM OBSESSED WITH RIGHT NOW MUST BE EXORCISED THROUGH PDFS ASAP" method is neither normal nor healthy. >>132437 Quantum timelocks were a mistake.
>>132439 >I will never understand people who need engagement and interaction From what I have observed it typically falls into one of three categories. Some people seek it in order to justify making the jump. If they don't receive it, they feel like there was no point to making the jump since no one besides them cares. Others seek it because that process of engagement is how they work best and if they don't have those interactions, they can't process ideas properly. Then there are the people who enjoy it because it feeds their ego. Generally I think most people fall under the first two.
>>132438 Yes. Yes you should. >>132439 >I would...strongly dispute that solely from the fact that Primate Murder comes into being in Tsukihime timelines, and is still at least a potentiality in PHH ones. An understandable position. I just don't agree when Primate Murder hasn't actually been used. It's just kept in reserve and simps for Altrogue. Kinda like Atlas' world destroying weapon cache. >And the Oort Cloud is apparently a goddamn serial killer now. Maybe Earth is just too scared to tell it to leave <_< >At least the giantess fetish is also responsible for saving the world instead of just being a cause for it's destruction. You know what? Fair point. >Quantum timelocks were a mistake. Yup! And remember, before Zelretch discovered the Second Magic in like, 0 AD or something (I'm 99% sure it's not actually 0 AD, but I can't recall off hand), there was now timeline splitting phenomena. The Planet only picked that up after Zelretch discovered it...and apparently applied it retroactively all the way back to before the Human Order (which is in charge of those Quantum Timelocks and pruning) existed. Because...that's a thing you can do, apparently.
>>132441 >Yes. Yes you should. Now that I think about it, if I go to space I’d get away from the Human Order, which would remove several of the issues with Magecraft.
>Check in on Monster Hunter >Akuma is running around attacking monsters at random >The Avis Hunter can TANK a fucking Satsui no Hadou to the face because something something conviction, and Akuma says the Hunter reminds him of Ryu >Also OMEGA and ALEPH are here >You can FIGHT THEM >You can UNDERSTAND their robot noises What the fuck is even happening to Monster Hunter? What happened to HUNTING MONSTERS?
>>132443 Shared Multiverse?
>>132188 Just look at a tier list.>>132411 The planet doesn't understand anything to be fair. Seriously, how much power and mental gymnastic does it need?
>>132443 Bro, World has you fight a fucking FFXIV Behemoth raid and you get Dragoon armor and a Dragoon lance from it. It also has quests and events for The Witcher, DMC, Assassin's Creed, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dig Delight Direct Drive! DJ Groovy Mix, and Universal Studios Japan.
>>132188 The SHA'IR class is kinda neat.
>>132447 NTA but... the WHAT?
>>132448 You get spells from an elemental buddy, arcane and divine. >Spells: A sha'ir's spells must be retrieved from the elemental planes by his familiar, an outsider called a gen. Once retrieved, a spell remains set in the sha'ir's memory, like a wizard's prepared spell, until cast or until a number of hours pass equal to the sha'ir's class level. A sha'ir is capable of extraordinarily versatile spellcasting because he can use arcane spells as well as a limited selection of divine spells. A sha'ir's familiar can retrieve any spell on the sorcerer/wizard spell list, plus any spell from the Air, Chaos, Earth, Fire, Knowledge, Law, Luck, Sun, and Water domain spell lists. Even though the sha'ir has access to certain domain spells, he gains no other benefit of the cleric class, including the granted powers of those domains. https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Sha%27ir https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseDc/shair.html
>>132449 It's like a funnier Warlock!
>>132442 No, unless you are a vampire as human you take the human order with you
>>132451 Even a single human will spread the Human Order?
>>132452 According to Voyager's profile, even an artificial satellite is spreading the Human Order as long as it's significant enough to form a Servant.
>>132453 It all comes back to ORT-maxxing.
>>132453 At this point, a long forgotten and unpopular meme could be a servant.
>>132455 Technically that describes Paul Bunyan perfectly.
>>132456 Don't remind me of... that.
>>132452 Just abandon your humanity anon, it isn’t going anything for you.
>>132458 Something something Humanity good, even if it's not and everything that is good is leeching off things that aren't humans.
Other than killing Hitler to make sure he doesn't do his stupid doomsday plot what's a good main goal for an early chain jumper in Wolfenstein the New Order? By early chain I mean not yet able to solo an entire world superpower but can certainly take on whatever they throw at him.
>>132454 The more I learn about Nasuverse space, the more I understand why ORT is the way it is. It really is the perfect adaptation to all of this bullshit, especially the part where it has a specific form of alien autism where it simultaneously calculates and replicates new information faster than any current supercomputer. And also carefully avoids thinking about anything except victory at any cost.
>>132460 Is he not the good guy now that the left hate Jews or what's up with that?
>>132460 Killing William Joseph "BJ" Blazkowicz, "Terror Billy" so he doesn't get in the way of the plan.
>>132462 The left is currently projecting American style racism onto the Nazis, meaning they're still bad, despite the fact that the the Nazis were classic European style racists which the left seems to support. But geopolitics aside things to steal and targets to eliminate for a jumper? >>132463 America #1.
>>132460 In addition to killing hitler, please make sure he does not acquire a jetpack
>>132463 To make sure he doesn't give birth to his daughters.
>>132460 Loot all the stolen ancient jew super science.
>>132467 Did the jews get their hands on a fucking SCP?
>>132468 No, that's just me playing around in an urban fantasy sandbox or World of Darkness lite with more waifus.
>>132467 What AI are you using anyway?
>>132470 Grok 4 fast as Mirai Mini through character tavern. Its free and has 2 million context. The only problem I have with it is it will recycle the same damn names over and over.
What would happen if the Ultimate Lifeform from Jorge Joestar would go to confront Toru/The Doctor? Would you be able to copy and deploy the Ultimate Wonder of U before the Calamity gets too strong? And if you did, what would happen in a clash of Calamities?
>>132462 >Is he not the good guy now >now
>>132471 >Grok 4 fast That part, I get >Mirai Mini through character tavern This one, not really.
>>132474 Character Tavern is where you use it. Pretty easy, there are tutorials on the YouTube.
>>132464 >America #1 Not exactly.
Permadungeon: Persistent Shitposting
>>132472 Killer Queen has already touched the doorknob Except replace Killer Queen with Wonder of U and doorknob with a volcano
>>132472 Logically, Ultimate Life Form would not only copy Wonder of U, but make it Wonder of U Ultimate, so stronger, whatever that mean in this context. (The World Ultimate has 1 Hour Time Stop, Whitesnake Ultimate has DISCs creating and cloning, etc) Of course, WoU/Calamity is a form of luck manipulation, so it should be possible for it counter Kars is a weird and precise way. Let's not get started on what a WoUU vs WoU would look like.
>>132190 I note it down, thanks. I have to see how to resolve it only working on an ethereal plane. >>132193 this is 3.5 dnd >>132445 >Just look at a tier list I dont really care what is useful in game, I want stuff that stands out on a chain. The game itself primarily deals with short term combat encounters, so stuff like being able to turn invisible or become a few units tougher for a minute or so, a few times is actually super useful, while on a chain its actually kinda pathetic. >>132447 I am looking for spells rather than classes.
>>132475 Ah the site? Can't exactly see Mirai Mini though.
>>132480 Its in the free section in AI Settings when you enter a chat.
>>132479 >I dont really care what is useful in game, I want stuff that stands out on a chain. Yeah that make sense. Generally you'd want things that are practical to day to day life on top of being good during fights. Yes, Wish is part of it. And I unnironically think Goodberry would be a good spell to have for emergency, except it's a Druid/Ranger spell. There's also the Components to think about... which is... problematic if you want to deal with them.
>>132464 >The left is currently projecting American style racism onto the Nazis, meaning they're still bad, despite the fact that the the Nazis were classic European style racists which the left seems to support. Anon...the Nazis literally studied and admired American racial segregation legislation. They didn't think it went far enough, but it was part of their model for going further in "purifying" their nation.
>>132472 >Do not intend to pursue >Speak to Wonder of U directly >Wonder of U is a sentient Stand >Just use your Chad Ultimate Lifeform charisma to talk him over to your side Easy P
>>132472 He would, WoU isn't Instant Death, it isn't an automatic death the moment you try to scheme against it, and considering WOU is the ability to manipulate the flow of calamity rather than the head doctor itself WOUU probably would be able to make the head doctor switch side.
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>>132462 >>132464 The left are just remnants of the Weimar Republic looking to claw their way back into power. But time is a flat circle.
>>132462 Jews/Israel just got sorted into the Nazi folder.
>>132484 That was one weird thing, Kars convincing Killer Queen, and that's saying something. Meanwhile Whitesnake: I guess Kira just became too powerful, but still.
>>132488 What's funny is that after losing Killer Queen Kira got stronger and somehow fucked up Ultimate Kars.
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>>132489 >My powers were just holding me down What other examples do we have of this?
>>132489 The Spin is one hell of a drug. Also wedding I guess? Lol
>>132490 Touma's imagine breaker. Seongjun Lee's infinite resurrection is an odd case of it.
>>132443 >>132446 Ya'll acting like Monster Hunter doesn't have a legacy of weird ass crossovers.
>>132481 Ahh, login and all that fun stuff!
>>132490 Ichigo's quincy powers
>>132457 Super Paul Bunyan is a skinwalker or to be honest a even more obscure & unpopular bastard spirit that has taken over Bunyan considering the horns she has in some pics
>>132446 There's been a USJ crossover basically every game since 2. >>132490 Nanami in Katanagatari. Her immense potential rendered her body so frail she is constantly sick, and by using her Migeika Eyes to copy techniques from other people she's actually nerfing her own abilities because her innate skills are perfect. This also makes it easier for her to be alive.
>>132490 Also luxus
>>132490 Supposedly the case with Re:Zero's Reinhard.
>>132501 I like the supposedly.
Morning friends. How're we doing today?
>>132503 Didn't sleep well, writing about martial arts.
>>132503 There's a can of mackeral that I need to save until monday sitting a few feet away and I've been having to force myself to not eat it since I bought it on friday
>>132504 Sorry you didn't sleep well, hopefully the rest of the day's better for you. >>132505 Hold strong, friend. You can do this.
>>132506 >Hold strong, friend. You can do this. I'm honestly thinking of heading down to get a few more cans. It's just an eight mile walk and the reward is tasty fish
>>132308 Would a ancient be that much weaker than a 200 sarkaz with 11th king? Would they be at least comparable to a 600 race like a diablo? Here's hoping that ancients also have a eugenics perk. As a Aslan, can you say that you have Enter eternity from being related to the Lugalszargus somehow? Pulling up as a aslan with 11th king and Let reality make way to me so you can say you're descended from both, while having Near light to make up for not having the Sigh.
>>132472 Probably, yes. Kars is practically impossible to kill through any conventional means. Even being caught in an erupting supervolcano did absolutely no lasting damage to him, it simply blasted him into space. Nor did floating through space for millions of years or running on Mars for trillions more. While it's possible Wonder of U might be able to eventually do something with Calamity that could destroy Kars, it's pretty much a given that Kars would survive long enough within the cycle of Calamity to analyze and Understand Wonder of U. Which would give rise to Wonder of Ultimate, which would proceed to annihilate Wonder of U with whatever bullshit powers it has. Maybe Wonder of Ultimate could not only inflict Calamity onto those who pursue Kars, but also effectively remove/protect/give Kars himself plot armor when he's pursuing someone else. Or something similar, effectively negating Wonder of U and allowing him to confront the Toru/Doctor himself without actually suffering from Calamity.
>>132399 Burger and wings.
Shitposty question, but I implore you guys to take it seriously: if the Force is female, would having enough harem perks make it so I can use Force powers even if I have absolutely no Force sensitivity simply because the Force likes me that much?
>>132511 I think it'd be more shit happening around you than you using force powers.
>>132427 Yes. There's a reason Demons who Go Loud don't tend to live for very long after and why they're so loathe to do so that they'll do anything to avoid it.
>>132511 >Shitposty question, >but I implore you guys to take it seriously Okay >if the Force is female I'm gone.
>>132511 I can imagine you turning into a qui-gon-jinn like figure because the Force is your sugar mama and whisper to you sweet things like the future.
>>132502 It's like 50% WoG, 40% hearsay, and 10% that one time he beat up a few jobbers like Cecilus, Puck, and Halibel without his blessings.
So I know most of you know much more about Xianxia than Murim stuff, and Murim stuff is generally a lot more low key and straight forward, but how do you guys write your cultivation stuff? I got my weapon arts and movement technique down in a way that I feel content with but I don't really know what to do with my circulation method even if I know the vibe I want. Like, how to express it in words. Fair warning I do not think consciousness is sticking long. Apologies if I do not respond all of a sudden.
>>132443 >he thinks this is the weirdest MH has ever gotten Nobody tell him about the weird ass shit in Frontier.
>>132517 I honestly tend to just think of a single technique I like and then never bother thinking about anything else.
>>132516 And the WoG and hearsay are full of shit, so... How many time did this motherfucker lied or said something hilariously retarded? Don't answer that.
>>132519 Kindly expand a bit on that, please.
>>132516 The only wog i saw only said he wouldn't be weaker but not that they hold him back
>>132521 So, what I do is think up a technique that I really like. And then I never think about anything else and just use that one specific technique.
>>132522 He'd have a loving family without them. The exact same effect could also be achieved if Wilhelm got eaten by the whale.
>>132522 I like how much it doesn't make any sense, "him losing what gives him power won't weaken him at all" LN writers are really retarded.
>>132503 Completely conked out from sheer exhaustion last night. Gonna try to work on Ocean Game today but no promises.
Why should I finish my jump? I hate you guys.
>>132525 Nta, the wording was >Q: If Reinhard's blessings went away, around how strong would he be? >A: Even if all the little tricks were lost, he'd be about the same as he is now.
>>132527 I don't care about you.
>>132528 ...And that's supposed to make it better? Or smarter?? Are you defending this idiot??
Like you go "Buddha's Palm is good for everything" and then proceed to do just that everywhere all the time like a Dark Souls challenge run? Level 1 naked guy with club shenanigans?
>>132531 Rasengan. He uses it like rasengan.
>>132531 But do you have the samadhi fire in your palms?
>>132523 Sorry, here >>132531
Why is there one anon who always gets mad whenever Re:Zero gets mentioned.
>>132532 I mean even Naruto learned how to just beat a guy up and throw hands but fair enough. >>132533 I see we have a Pyromancer connoisseur. >>132535 You ask that in this thread?
>>132535 1 - Where do you think we are 2 - You are pointing it out
>>132535 Picking something to hate and making it your whole personality is nothing new here.
>>132536 >>132537 >>132538 I know I know. I'm just saying, it feels kinda weird to Gohan/Shardpost over this of all things. There's stuff that actually deserves the energy you could spend on hating that, even other actually garbage isekai.
What perks are there to smell really good?
>>132539 >it feels kinda weird to Gohan/Shardpost over this of all things Don't exaggerate. You feel like a scorned fanboy now.
>>132539 It's sorta just a phenomenon that I mostly notice here. Once something gets talked about enough it earnsa hater for life. It doesn't particularly matter if it's niche, someone here will pick it up and learn disdain.
I am so glad that I don't have the emotional endurance to develop the sort of autistic hate that so frequently emerges around here.
>>132541 >Don't exaggerate. Anon, I've seen your fucking posts both here and in the 4chan thread - I never commented on them but >>132530 is a level of spiteful that, yes, evokes your average non-screaming at the walls Gohanpost. >scorned fanboy Not a big Re-Zero fan but it never seemed offensive enough to me to justify making hating it something you have to voice every time it comes up.
>>132540 >One of the quriks in MHA's quirk table >Sabes blut from Ric's DXD jump >Magus of flowers in Garden of avalon
>>132544 Ngl, you are just being weirdly defensive about it, Or don't know much about gohanposting. Or just stupid.
>>132543 I can hate things really strongly, but often only in the moment and it quickly burns out into apathy unless it's something I really, REALLY despise. I don't necessarily have one thing I autistically hyperfixate on to hate. >>132546 >you are just doing the thing I'm accusing you of doing! What a wonderfully thought-terminating line of logic. You win, anon. I concede to your superior intellect and skill level in blind seething hatred for random entertainment media.
>>132543 Sometimes I feel like I would be a bit better off if I could maintain a grudge instead of forgetting after a few hours or after getting some food and sleep. Hating is an artform for some. >>132545 That Jump has at times brought me grief but at the same time it also brings me vague joy that it can be used as a plausible answer to so many different perk/ability requests.
>>132547 >What a wonderfully thought-terminating line of logic That's not really difficult. You seem to have forgotten how long gohanposting can be. So comparing it to >>132530... Well you aren't sounding very smart at best.
>>132548 You don't want to hold on to hate for that long, Bee. That shit ruins a man.
>>132535 Probably some grudge. Re Zero was ine of the first big Isekai that featured the MC being a near powerless loser which ended up with a lot of pretentious casuals touting it around as a masterpiece, which in turn caused a counter reaction to endlessly shittalk the series.
>>132550 Wdym? Look at Ricrod after doing DxD!
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>>132503 Discovering that the Neptunia manga has some interesting moments.
>>132517 Connect the circulation technique to whatever other stuff you have, like a sword art or buddha palm. Also if you like a technique and wish to stick to it then just write your character to just continually improving it, like adding further forms to a sword art or mantra rings displayed onto your buddha palm.
>>132527 You will hate yourself more for failing to complete your work.
>>132554 Just when I thought Neptunia couldn't get more based.
>>132554 I could never get into Neptunia, all those consoles characters..
>>132540 nubee's bodymod has this perk >Perfume (50BP+) - “With a single purchase of Perfume, you may erase all bad body odor such as that sweat and bacteria scent from heavy workouts. You can still smell because of other reasons like a stink bomb or skunk blast, but that’s not really a you problem. >Additionally, stink doesn’t cling as hard to you as other people, so even the above problems are comparatively easy to remedy. Your natural scent is also highlighted and pronounced, with those pheromones no longer competing with other smells to impress the opposite sex. With a second purchase of Perfume, you can instead alter your natural scent to one mundane scent of your choosing, such as a particular type of flower or fruit, or perhaps a familiar cologne. Nothing incredibly pungent though, probably. >Both levels can be toggled off and on.”
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.>JJK jump has a perk that starts you off with Sukuna tier Cursed energy knowledge, power and talent that applies to every powersystem you pick up >Having trouble visualizing Sukuna tier for series with lots of material Mind helping with some lads? >Star wars Palpatine? >Naruto Madara? >DC Doctor fate? >Marvel Doctor strange?
>>132560 I would say Sukuna gives you Yoda potential. Palpatine was strong as he was because of the Rule of Two.
>>132530 I was just saying that he isn't saying without his sources of power wouldn't weaken him, just that he's naturally so strong that it wouldn't make a meaningful difference.
>>132534 Pretty much, yeah.
>>132562 Which doesn't make sense.
>>132564 Agree on that, Reinhard is kinda like Medaka, simply an inexplicable freak of nature.
>>132565 How does the ReZero plot even progresses when you have a guy that can pull new abilities every time he wants out of his ass?
>>132565 That's insulting to Medaka. And her tits. "He's naturally strong" my ass, fuck the lore I guess. The fact that the author calls them "little tricks" is telling. >>132566 He's either away doing things that are not worth his time so Subaru has to cook up something, or he is there, just stupid, so Subaru has to cook up something.
>>132566 The Witches Authorities trump divine blessings. So that's probably why the world is giving him everything and the kitchen sink to him so he has at least something that could work around an authority he's fighting.
>>132566 Hey Spazz, had a question of the party companions in Shadowrun Returns do you need Power Echoes for them to keep pace during the adventure path or would Power Echoes be on top of that growth? Just wondering if the Dragonfall and Hong Kong crews are far more likely to die if you don't take Power Echoes and Karma.
>>132566 Two factors >Reinhard is never around (and the author specified if he was around in certain arcs it would have been even harder to succeed) >The divine protections are always weaker than the authorities, he couldn't simply pull an "anti-regulus" hax, because Regulus' authority is automatically superior. Also from what I heard right now he's busy fighting Satella, so he can't help.
>>132569 No, they will grow as fast as you. Power Echoes is there in case you use a new crew, hire shadowrunners or play the modules.
>>132567 Anon, the author explicitely said he would beat Od Laguna in a fight, he's stronger than the source of the blessings.
>>132566 From what I heard there was a wog where it was stated he didn't hunt the witch cult because no one told him to
Does anyone remember what QQ jump had that perk that lets you dial down your intelligence to increase your luck and beauty? I wanna be an orange catboy and that powerset matches the aesthetic perfectly
>>132570 In fact, does the power hierarchy even matters when he can spontaneously create new abilities at will? Looks like he can just invent 30 new powers and beat someone with an authority despite not being able to create Immunity to x
>>132540 I'm not looking but ctrl-f "smell" or "scent" in QQ drive
>>132574 Monster girl encyclopedia. The redcap perk IIRC.
>>132575 No power he can create can defeat the authority of regulus
>>132568 >>132570 Technically, he could beat Regulus, the problem is making sure that people around are kept alive. Sure he can't get an anti-Regulus blessing, but he could get other blessings, notice I said could. Stupidity is a big problem in Re Zero. >>132572 >the author explicitely said And that's your first mistake. Believing what the guy is saying.
>>132575 No, there is a limit to what he can create, against Regulus for example he couldn't create anything to stop his hax.
>>132572 Didn't he also say at some point that Ainz from Overlord could beat him?
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> Current chain: Eclipse Phase, Worm, Fallout NV, Dark Souls 1 (Blacksmith Scenario), FTL, Cyberpunk 2077/Shadowrun, Metal Gear Rising, Armored Core 4/6, BAHSCQ What are some interesting jumps with crafter/tech origins for my pure tech jumper? I like these settings but I'm worried all the megacorp cyberpunk/space settings are starting to blend together.
>>132577 That seems to be a perk that lets me summon a hat that stores and refines energies into more powerful forms, at the cost of altering my mindstate based on the kind of energy I'm refining?
>>132578 Yeah, but there's nothing stopping him from creating a detects anything that is invulnerable when something is not invulnerable, it is attacked with a permanent curse the curse desintegrates matter instantly.
>>132581 In the gag crossover isekai quartet it's a joke how reinhard is invincible, and Ainz wonders how you can surpass his "automatically dodge the first attack" and "automatically dodge every attack he has already seen" protections.
>>132580 There's also the fact that he has a sword that is ridiculously powerful, to the point it can cut concepts. So of course the author felt smart like usual and decided that the sword could only be unsheathed against a worthy opponent, whatever the fuck that mean. >>132584 I see you noticed the problem. I'm happy.
>>132585 Use Wish Upon a Star to seal the surrounding area around him, like how Sukuna beat gojo.
>>132579 from the q&a about him beating Regulus. >If Reinhard had been serious, he could have blown everything away and wiped out Regulus' brides, but he doesn't do that sort of thing so it was said it would be a stalemate. If he'll use any means available to win, there's no one he can't beat, but it's not that kind of story, right?
>>132585 > "automatically dodge the first attack" and "automatically dodge every attack he has already seen" throw a lvl1 fireball at him then follow up with Instant Death?
>>132583 Looked at it again and the perk in question was named Tricky tricks.
>>132566 Witch Authorities render blessings mostly moot. That and Reinhard isn't constantly clung to Subaru (even though he'd probably like to be) because he's 1) his nation's greatest asset, 2) is specifically barred from intervening in certain situations, and 3) his presence in several scenarios Subaru has lived through would have made them nigh-impossible because the situation would escalate accordingly.
>>132584 Even ignoring that's not how divine protections usually work, regulus is always invulnerable. Anyway I just remembered that by word of god if he went all out the explosions would've killed the wives. Anyway I don't think he can get literally any power he wants as long as it doesn't beat an authority
I don't understand all this confusion about Reinhard. Imagine asking a DC writer to write a story in which Batman unambiguously loses, a Toho writer to write a story in which Godzilla is defeated in a permanent and humiliating way, or yourself to write a story where your Jumper gets cucked. The writer clearly loves this character so much he's willing to bend all logic and reason around the character so he wins at life forever, what's the confusion? It's like asking what special trait Bell has to let him succeed at life so hard in Danmachi. His special trait is that he existed.
>>132589 No, he dodges the first iteration of any attack he sees. That was an abridged version tho, from the wiki >The Divine Protection of First Sight (初見の加護, Hatsumi no Kago) enables the user to instinctively know how to counter or dodge attacks that they experience for the first time, including surprise attacks. But if the user is unable to physically avoid or counter the attack, the Divine Protection will not activate.
>>132584 He can't get any specific power like that - Od Laguna creates the powers and it, generally, doesn't work like that. It will provide a blessing, then it will keep giving him 'X blessing but better' powers. It does not create "instantly resolve the plot" abilities as a rule.
>>132590 What version of the jump are you using? The one on QQ's drive doesn't have a perk called Tricky Tricks.
>>132593 I don't think it's like that considering he can never save anyone for all his power, he's more like gojo
>>132593 >The writer clearly loves this character so much ...Are we talking about Reinhard there, or Emilia?
>>132596 >>132590 Ahh, nevermind. The perk you're talking about is "Trippy Tricks", which makes you better at mischief and makes you luckier the dumber and clumsier you act
>>132593 Anon, Reinhard is utterly defeated in the pride if, and is thrown away by Regulus, Reinhard is more of a parody, or deconstruction, of an op protagonist. Re:zero has serious flaws but the author loving Reinhard too much isn't one of them.
>>132588 Yes, Reinhard is an idiot, and so are every characters. Again, that's the problem. The author is just all about that deconstruction = edge = deep thing. >>132595 Actually, he can ask for anything he want.
>>132593 >Reinhard >well beloved The guy literally cannot save anyone. Like, this is an actual point about his character; that despite being so powerful, he can never protect the people he loves.
>>132574 Found the perk. It's Brainless Bimbo from World of Lewd Horror
>>132602 Why not? I don't know anything about Re:Zero beyond the basic premise.
>>132602 And yet the point of the character is often ignored or not known. I wonder why.
It was exactly the perk you were looking for because it also has this >Also, the dumber you are, the bustier you can make your physical appearance (muscles, breasts, butt/hips, penis, etc.), even potentially to cartoonish proportions – and the bustier you are, the stronger yourcharisma will become.
>>132584 Regulus has not been "not-invulnerable" for dozens of years. I.e. he's never fucking vulnerable unless his wives are gone.
>>132603 Can you turn the dial down to trade beauty perks for intelligence?
>>132604 Nta but accidentally he apparently sent his mother in a coma for example, wich makes him hated by his family.
>>132410 Need to watch more D&D cartoon. 7 of 29 completed. >>132503 Over slept >>132540 The og bodymod has everclean, which makes you always smell freshly showered and stops all BO.
>>132605 For the same reason there is a fic where momonga kills goetia
>>132601 Reinhard isn't omnipotent, do you understand that? He isn't an idiot for not knowing everything.
>>132604 >Why not? On top of the stuff already mentioned like him not being able to deal with the Witch Authorities via simple blessing hax, he sent his mom into a coma, frequently shows up too late to stop certain events, and for all his strength, he cannot fix every tragedy in the world despite deeply yearning to. He's also actively barred from even setting one foot outside his own nation because every other nation consider that to be tantamount to an act of war, so he's essentially barred from intervening in national or global affairs.
>>132593 >The writer clearly loves this character so much he's willing to bend all logic and reason around the character so he wins at life forever, what's the confusion? Bro has never heard of Reinhard in his life. The author brings him out only to shit on him and then shit on him some more. The readers like him more than the author ever did.
>>132606 Yes, I saw that. The park having a feature that makes me bustier based on how stupid I am doesn't make it be the exact perk I asked for. For example, it has nothing for trading your intelligence for luck and beauty, the sole function of the perk I was asking about >>132608 Probably not? I know I've seen a perk that makes your intelligence scale with your beauty though
>>132615 Literally the one happy thing in Reinhard's life is Subaru, which is why the guy attaches to him so strongly as his best (only) friend.
>>132613 There's a difference between being omnipotent, and not being a drolling retard. >>132615 >The author brings him out only to shit on him and then shit on him some more. The readers like him more than the author ever did. Are we talking about Reinhard, or about Subaru?
>>132612 I don't understand what you are saying, and why you are saying it.
>>132618 >Are we talking about Reinhard, or about Subaru? Both.
Ok I got bored I'm going to kill everyone in Re: Zero for Reinhardposter. Is there anyone I should spare or is it antimatter bombs for everybody?
>>132620 Atta boy!
>>132621 >kill everyone in a setting because someone else hates them Cringe. Cucked, even.
>>132621 Capella seggs.
>>132621 Antimatter bombs for everybody. No one, no one. NO. ONE. deserve to be spared. They are either extremely hateful, extremely retarded, or both.
>>132613 Anon can only comprehend characters when they act exactly like how he thinks they should act or exactly like his Jumper (himself).
>>132621 iirc Narnia has an item that kills all live on the planet except jumper. Have fun.
>>132616 >For example, it has nothing for trading your intelligence for luck and beauty, the sole function of the perk I was asking about Anon it literally makes you dumber and luckier too. The only smart thing you do while the perk is active is pranks.
>>132617 >Q: On a scale of one to ten, how is Reinhard's favorability towards Subaru? >A: Reinhard is an eight or better towards most people, so Subaru is around that, too. On the other hand, people who Reinhard has a low opinion of probably have a real problem with their humanity, I'd think.
>>132626 Fuck you too. I really hate how basic functions are so rare in literature nowadays, that people actively think using them is "omnipotence". Imagine how much time would have been saved if Rem used her brain. Or Emilia, but we aren't allowed to have that
>>132628 >Anon it literally makes you dumber and luckier too. It doesn't do either of those. It lets you focus your intelligence on mischief and makes you luckier if you ACT like you're dumb and clumsy. Most importantly, it doesn't actually make you more beautiful. It gives you potentially cartoonish physical proportions and increases your charisma based on how big your tits and ass are. Charisma isn't a measure of beauty and cartoonish tits are ugly as fuck. That said, I literally already found the perk I was asking for and posted it a bit ago
>>132618 Subaru is there to show that the average loser getting isekai’d would stay a loser, while Reinhard is there to show that an op character wouldn’t be able to succeed just by relying on his power. Both are caricatures but they serve different purposes.
>>132632 Actually, they both serve to illustrate that the author is an idiot, and the fans even worse. It's working.
>>132490 North in Anima Beyond Fantasy, her Deus Magnus allows her to see every destiny at once and can choose the one she prefer, but this makes her blind to the present, because of wich she's bad at fighting. She's a better support thanks to it but she would a better fighter without.
>>132630 Define "basic functions." No, I'm serious, actually say exactly what you mean by that. Without that explanation, you sound like a mid-tier rationalfic writer who physically can't understand why a fictional character who subscribes to an entirely different life philosophy from yours doesn't focus on the same things you do about their power system.
>>132618 >There's a difference between being omnipotent, and not being a drolling retard. He didn't know how Regulus' invulnerability worked from what I remember, he's not a retard for not knowing everything.
>>132408 I did all the recommendations you gave me. I list the backgrounds in the perks, prohibited races with multiple abilities, created a origin section and removed the backgrounds in the apprenticeship section about leaving the order. I also changed the force affinity section to cost points.
>>132629 Notably this ignores the fact that each IF shows how /vastly/ differently Reinhard treats Subaru depending on if he's known him for a bit or not at all. In the Pride IF, he only meets Subaru at the very end and without the basis of having met him even once before, Reinhard shows no hesitation in wanting to put him down. In Wrath, he meets him once at the loot house, then again in Pandemonium where he seems saddened/disappointed at how far Subaru has fallen. In Gluttony, he's known Subaru for the better part of a year and once Subaru goes nuts with Shaula, instead of actively stopping their nonsense which would be contemptuously easy for him by then, he just focuses on raising money for their victims and turning a blind eye to their actions because Subaru is his best friend and he doesn't want to hurt him. A side stroy in Arc 3 outright has Reinhard name Subaru as his best friend even. Tappei pretty intentionally undersells just how much Reinhard cares for Subaru, which is something he does a lot with non-powerlevel/worldbuilding WOG.
>>132636 Damn, if only he had some sort of power that could give him information about his opponent if he wanted to know it.
>>132632 >Subaru is there to show that the average loser getting isekai’d would stay a loser Which is funny when you consider that everything that is good that is happening happen because Subaru is there. So the real message is "the average loser getting isekai'd would stay a loser, but everyone is alive and alive only because of him and his for some reason traumatic checkpoint power" >Reinhard is there to show that an op character wouldn’t be able to succeed just by relying on his power Reinhard is more subtle, but ultimately, it's a problem of not being able to think and just bruteforcing things. >>132636 I agree, Regulus is fair, after discovering that, not so much. Or you know, Diving Blessings. If only he could ask them. Insert Hyrule King Face there..
>>132639 Blessings and Od Laguna's powers do not affect Witch Authorities. Presumably, this would also extend to trying to mystically ascertain details on them via a Blessing.
>>132640 >So the real message is "the average loser getting isekai'd would stay a loser, but everyone is alive and alive only because of him and his for some reason traumatic checkpoint power" I mean he only wins because he loses enough times to figure out how to win. So everyone including him would die if he didn't have the ability to save scum.
>>132641 >Blessings and Od Laguna's powers do not affect Witch Authorities >get blown away by Reggie out of the fucking flat planet >reappear after a little bit You were saying?
>>132641 Yeah but are things like Regulus's wives also included in that? Because those are absolutely not part of his Authority.
>>132640 The only reason Subaru didn't permanently die the very first time around is because Satella is keeping him alive and ensuring he keeps coming back. That's it. Subaru only has the experience and capacity for growth and to help others grow because Satella keeps bringing him back each time and giving him room for continuous fuck ups (so long as he does things in a precise manner she enforces, otherwise she'll deathloop him into a broken mess).
>>132639 The witch factors are the opposite of Od Laguna, him being able to divine the weakness of witch factors is your headcanon.
>>132643 He probably didn't even use a blessing to tank that, much less use it on regulus >>132644 Regulus heart inside them at least should
>>132642 That's not really making my point any less valid. Though I wonder just how much copium will Tappei have to fuse with his ink to make sense of that. >>132645 Yeah, fuck off man. Just fuck off and go suck Tappei's dick.
>>132643 Why would he use a blessing to return? He simply jumped.
>>132644 He'd need to specifically ask about the wives or even know of their importance first to question that. That, and given his invulnerability is directly tied to his wives, I'd argue that would count for something that the Blessing can't answer (and Od wouldn't have the forward thinking to loophole around it, so no using or stretching technical wording to get around it either). The Re-Zeroposter is mostly assuming that Od Laguna is more capable than it is and Reinhard just isn't abusing it perfectly (like he would obviously do) when Od isn't even sapient and is mostly just giving Reinhard what he needs to survive or handle X without accounting for Y through Z.
What are some settings with big hordes of enemies to kill guilt free? Blood for the blood jumper.
>>132650 >The Re-Zeroposter is mostly assuming that Od Laguna is more capable than it is and Reinhard just isn't abusing it perfectly (like he would obviously do) when Od isn't even sapient and is mostly just giving Reinhard what he needs to survive or handle X without accounting for Y through Z. I'm not sure if I'm the Re Zeroposter, but Reinhard can actively obtain blessings, he just need to ask them, and done.
>>132651 >40k (Obvious) >Any Xianxia (Also obvious) >Kamen rider >Ultraman (Some battles have hoards of bastards who won't be missed on a universal scale) >Any zombie setting (Also obvious)
>>132651 Warhammer 40K, Borderlands, Devil May Cry, Metal Slug, Diablo, Half Life, RWBY
>>132635 Basic functions is not being a murderwhore that kill and torture someone just because they look vaguely innocent. Basic functions isn't draining mana, and potentially killing someone just because of a minor offence. Basic functions is telling someone "hey you are cursed and gonna die" when seeing someone. Basic functions is not thinking that beating someone half to death because the someone dared to insult the knights. Basic functions isn't thinking that murder is the first solution, a lot of people does that. Basic functions-look I'm not going to make a list, because the list would be too big, I think I made my point.
>>132651 D&D/Pathfinder Kingdom Death Monster Kingdom Hearts Anima Exalted
>>132655 I'm pretty certain at least one of these is covered under "the horrible superbeing granting my powers will murder-loop me if I open my mouth and yap too much".
>>132655 What you are talking about?
>>132651 Narnia D&D Blood War Goblin Slayer Alterworld (EVERYONE)
>>132655 >Basic functions is not thinking that beating someone half to death because the someone dared to insult the knights. if this is what I think it is then dude is even less than a secondary
>>132503 Decided that even if I take a short break, I should have enough time to squeeze in a short Jump for Halloween. Just need to decide what it should be of.
>>132638 >Tappei pretty intentionally undersells Subaru Every problem with Rezero could be traced back to this.
>>132661 Mad God.
>>132655 You leave my Dark Eldar waifu out of this, she had a hard upbringing okay
>>132657 Yeah, let's not think, let's just give up after the few tries. It's not worthwhile after all. Retard. >>132660 Basic functions is also knowing that yes, beating someone half to death half by rage and half to protect the someone, isn't a valid solution. Happy? Gonna pop a boner and fap in the corner?
>>132665 >Yeah, let's not think, let's just give up after the few tries. Satella has killed Subaru repeatedly for even trying to figure out ways around the "yap and you die" clause to certain scenarios.
Couldn't subaru just like write it down and add a request to the reader not to tell anyone not even Subaru because of the curse getting them?
>>132667 It's manual.
>>132667 Wouldn't Satella simply crush his heart when he tries?
>>132666 I wasn't talking about the telling RbD thing, I was talking about the info gained. How much of a retard can you be? In any other setting, it should be something that the characters would figure out eventualy. "Oh hey, Subaru is suddenly in pain when he's trying to talk, maybe it's a curse?" Unfortunately, everyone is stupid, and characters like Emilia make it Subaru's fault.
Nta, but what is so bad with people knowing her respawns in a different timeline and he will eventually win even if he dies now?
>>132670 Why would people believe him?
Have we had any jumps for any ecchi media within this year? Also what are your favorite ecchi jumps? Also what worlds in the spoiler-ed cyoa do you think would be fun to combine into one retroactive setting? Barring combining stuff like Prisma & Tsukihime since they're apart of the same franchise in the first place.
>>132670 >In any other setting, it should be something that the characters would figure out eventualy. "Oh hey, Subaru is suddenly in pain when he's trying to talk, maybe it's a curse?" Nobody is going to default to that as the first thing they try. And IIRC Satella is fully capable of killing OTHER people around Subaru before coming back and killing him, so even ignoring that nobody aside from Reinhard is remotely powerful enough to stand against her, them figuring it out and trying to help just places them in even more danger.
>>132672 >>132674 Yes, what's to stop them to ask the good questions? What's stopping them? What is friendship and that good shit? Also, Priscilla figured out he could come back. But STRANGELY she wasn't killed, so you can go suck a dick.
How/why did Subaru get isekai'd / into this relationship with Satella again? Do we ever learn that?
>>132665 >Basic functions is also knowing that yes, beating someone half to death half by rage and half to protect the someone, isn't a valid solution. >Happy? Gonna pop a boner and fap in the corner? >dude truly was a quaternary ieslb shitposter I've been jebaited into getting invested. Poggies moment. Whatever other twitch lingo zoomers use.
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>"yap and you die" clause Reminder Ainz was able to sense the curse immediately after talking to Subaru. Therefore anyone with magical sight should know about Return by Death.
>>132647 He did got his leg blasted off, but it grew back thanks to spirits. >>132649 That was indeed weird. Reinhard was sent to space, was apparently uncouncious until he hit the moon, and then simply jumped back into the planet somehow.
>>132677 Flugel being his past or future self/incarnation is the running theory iirc.
>>132651 How the fuck has no one mentioned Doom?
>>132679 To be fair, Ainz could unironically probably fucking break the curse on Subaru and potentially destroy his Return By Death ability entirely.
>>132677 The theories are: he is either Flugel's reincarnation or Subaru will travel back into the past and become Flugel. Tappei is sure as fuck gonna try to downplay everything Subaru did, as usual.
>>132678 I accept your concession hidden behind shitpost. >>132683 Don't say that, the fanboys are gonna cry.
>author comes up with super convoluted bullshit to create a torture porn scenario that can't be escaped no matter what the protagonist does >People call this out for being a lame get out of jail free card to stop said character from doing anything but suffering like a tool >"B-b-but you don't understand, there are 350689926 reasons why he can't stop being a bitch!" Re:Zero fans are the worst thing to happen to anime since vinland saga and Attack on Titan.
>>132676 Because Satella isn't omniscient, she watches subaru, a lot of people have some knowledge of return by death and haven't been killed because subaru didn't tell them
>>132685 You want me to make them cry? Aqua could overwhelm Satella's power and break the curse with a single spell.
>>132663 I've probably watched that movie three times and I still have no idea what's happening. I can give it another look for shits and giggles, but symbolism-heavy IPs are always a pain in the ass to make Jumps for.
>>132686 Yeah pretty much. It's all convoluted misery torture porn, defended by idiots. >Re:Zero fans are the worst thing to happen to anime since vinland saga and Attack on Titan. What about the Fate fans?
>>132689 That's a low blow. I almost felt it for them.
>>132686 I'm just sitting here confused about what even is the appeal of the series, it sounds like RWBY but more honest that the punchline is the only people trying to fix the world being simultaneously incompetent, perpetually out of their depth and tortured for existing.
>>132691 Fate fans at least just stay in their little autism corner and make crossover fanfics no one but them reads because their bullshit is too incomprehensible to make sense to anyone. They're kinda like WoD fans except weebs.
>>132676 >Also, Priscilla figured out he could come back. But STRANGELY she wasn't killed, Because Priscilla is literally living with Al and has been watching him over and over, so she managed to intuit from that - she doesn't know the exact detials. And Al knows because of Echidna nonsense. Outside of Al, only Roswaal actually knows. And like anon said, Satella is not omniscient. She watches Subaru and so long as Subaru never explicitly tells or they don't say what they know PRECISELY, she does not care. >>132677 It's suspected to be him being tied to Flugel. >>132679 Even ignoring Isekai Quartet is incredibly non-canon, Ainz doesn't know 100% what's going on. Sensing there's something up with Subaru =/= knowing exactly what's fucking with him, which is what gets you Satella'd.
>>132689 Why? I don't care that much and an actual goddess might be capable of doing it but at least bring an argument
>>132688 >>132695 >"it work" >"until it doesn't" Great argument.
>>132697 He can't inform other people of a thing because a supernatural stalker will kill them but they can work it out by themselves, it's simple enough for you now?
>>132697 And also ignore that while Satella isn't omniscient... she is apparently pretty damn near. But who care about that? She isn't omniscient, that's all there is to it. Don't think about it.
>>132683 Seems really improbable, Od Laguna is the soul of the world, he should be at the very least an entity on the scale of a world class item, and he can't undo authorities, much less Satella's.
>>132693 Miseryporn. That's literally the only appeal, it's modern day Evangelion, except the author is like you said, more honest about what's up. The other appeal is for people who secretly want the isekai power fantasy, but feel guilty for enjoying their entertainment, so they want some kind of punishment, and lack of any fun or enjoyability to justify why they like such a pathetically dogshit series.
>>132700 Anon doesn't care about context - he just wants to shitpost and rile people up. It's why I didn't mention the whole "Satella may or may not have eaten half the world" thing, because it would be pointless to someone who doesn't care about setting details.
What if, instead of worrying about powerlevels, you just stacked a crazy amount of friendship perks and became friends with everyone?
>>132693 It's the whole Deconstruction, Deep and MC is suffering = Deep aspect. It doesn't matter that the whole thing it is only working thanks to ducktape, it's enough to make the eyes of immature people who want to feel mature shines. But you'll have to define what being more honest about it mean, because the author sure as hell doesn't seems to be honest about it. >>132694 >WoD fans except weebs So, Exalted?
>>132700 He can always use Wish Upon a Star.
>>132286 Not sure if its of any interest but theres a neat manwha about a dnd wizard in the murim world that I liked. Its not exactly dnd magic but the spells totally are.
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What if the reason why Return by Death and the "yap and die" curse is schizophrenic on how it works is because Satella HERSELF is a schizo?
>>132705 Is this a shitpost? Wish upon a star is explicitely below the scale of a world class item.
>>132705 Still a World Class Item and unlikely to break an Authority, let alone one on the level of Satella's. >>132707 I mean, that's explicitly the case. Satella is a schizo so how it works varies depending on how she's feeling. What qualifies to set her off comes down entirely to her own whims.
>>132701 I genuinely don't understand the latter mentality, but then I don't understand cuckold/BBC fetishists or why every rapist in hentai has to be a hideous ugly old bastard either even though both are apparently popular so eh. >>132704 I just find the whole violence & suffering = deconstruction approach weird because growing up I had the pleasure of reading the Everworld, Animorphs, Saga of Darren Shan and Demonata Saga books among others. So I'm actually quite used to the idea of shock value and MCs going through some serious shit, just...not as a deconstruction, but because action and horror used to be wedged closer together. >So, Exalted? Can confirm.
>>132707 What would be the political ramifications of impregnating her?
>>132711 oldfag-kun...
>>132702 >It's why I didn't mention the whole "Satella may or may not have eaten half the world" thing, because it would be pointless to someone who doesn't care about setting details. Don't kid yourself, half of the fandom believe the eating the world part is bullshit, and we don't know much about it, just that she supposedly did it. >>132707 >"I'm mad/not human so things are weird around me" How original, in setting or otherwise. But yes it's most likely the case. Or not, you never know when it'll be retconed. This picture is insulting toward Vergil though.
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>>132703 Here is a starter friendship perk from Muppet Treasure Island.
>>132712 Politically? The antichrist.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A MURIM!?
>>132717 Jr. Xianxia Land.
>>132717 Wuxia/Wulin said in Korean.
>>132717 Korean wuxia/xianxia, at a level somewhere between the two.
>>132711 It's not actually deconstruction, it would mean studying the tropes themselves instead of awkwardly putting them together with suffering. Which is what Re Zero is doing. People just look at Subaru suffering for no reason for too much time and they "ooooooooh aaaaaaaaaah iiiiiiiiiiiih how deep". It's all about self importance, they don't even case that half the things they quote from the author get retconed.
>>132711 People want to fit in. And since the dawn of time we've had artists that portray tragedies as entertainment which got super popular because people could take out their frustrations on life through them. These artists then started huffing their own farts and believe that tragedy and shittiness=good, and in our society they now have an inconceivable amount of influence. So they've propagandized their bullshit as being profound by selling it to the rich who bought it hook line and sinker because they have no idea what actual tragedy feels like and live vicariously through it. These same rich people then only sponsor and support that kind of media everywhere, making it widespread and the default while demonizing everything slightly indulgent as trash(meanwhile some bullshit like Catcher in the Rye is considered a classic), leading to the masses agreeing. The people in question then, despite their natural inclinations, feel the need to fit in with those popular tastes so their own are legitimate causing them to fall into this kind of behavior.
>>132719 In korea the W is a M?
>>132702 >everyone who disagrees with me a bad faith strawman Sure.
>>132723 I don't know about the language itself but you can learn to read Korean in like 5 minutes cuz I guess it's somehow got the simplest writing system ever https://youtube.com/watch?v=TE4eplsFSms
>>132702 >"I actually didn't use an argument that would end this discussion faster and btfo my opponent because they clearly don't care lol, I was totally capable of winning at any time" While I get where you're coming from, I still don't believe you. No one ever passes up the chance to win an argument for free, it sounds more like you remembered this later, and wanted to retroactively use it as a justification.
>>132724 Nta but you can't deny randomly saying "my shitty isekai would beat your shitty isekai" sounds a lot like shitposting.
>>132725 You got to be kidding me lol! This is just too funny!
>>132724 Nta but it seems a lot like a shitpost, only trying to insult tastes of others while refusing to engage in any sort of discussion about their argument
>>132717 You know the Heavenly Demon, the Demon Cult, muh Namgoong clan swordsmen and Tang clan poisons, all that shit? That's all Murim.
>>132726 That wouldn't be a good argument, since it's something that isn't really elaborated, it's just the part of the mythos of the world.
>>132730 Somehow Korean wuxia is more repetitive than Chinese Wuxia. I didn't even know that shit was possible, but at least they all come together when it comes to shitting on Buddhists.
>>132728 I want to make fun of anon for the nightmarish levels of facebook emitted by this post but I'm too lazy to watch the video to figure out if it's actually a reference that went over my head so I'm hedging against that by writing out this disclaimer. Thank you for your time.
>>132726 >No one ever passes up the chance to win an argument for free I do, and have done so several times. Because eventually (after a lot of back-and-forth arguing before that point), I realize someone is debating purely in bad faith and it is a waste of my time to try and convince them otherwise so I just tag out of the debate and ignore it if it continues. I could easily have gone "this character is outright described as omnipotent per WOG with literally nothing to contradict it in any way shape or form" to many debates in the past like bringing up Fear or the Mystery Men, but I didn't because nobody would have any reason to believe me and they'd still argue disingenuously regardless. It also wouldn't be a good argument to begin with, bringing up Satella's world-eating, because the details of /how/ she did it are unelaborated on and are just sorta "she probably did this" rather than hard fact. But to the point; I have no reason to pursue "a win" in an argument that is founded on fraudulent foundations.
>>132731 Then it just sounds to me like it's a one of detail he knew anon would respond to with another "this is why the story is shit" argument, so what was the point of bringing it up like it was some deal breaker, and sign of his total lack of care? Clearly even the story doesn't give a fuck about it.
>>132723 It's Moulam in Cantonese.
>>132733 I just lost my shit. I coumdn't belive what I saw.
>>132737 and so the waveform has collapsed. kill yourself
>>132734 Sometimes it's genuinely incredible how up your own ass you are, Argent.
>>132734 It's not like the WoG are outright wrong in Re Zero. Oh wait.
>>132734 The problem here is if you believe someone is arguing in bad faith, proving it without a shadow of a doubt is always the best way forward, which is what most people will do when it comes to arguments. This sounds more like a cope for someone that gets btfo regularly and wants to hold onto some level of pride and face. If you have no reason to pursue a win in an argument, then you have no reason to have continued the discussion in the first place, or even replied to the first post. There has literally never been a time that someone has been disingenuous about their point and it hasn't been immediately obvious after like two replies. Plus we have way less shit posters here than we do in the cursed homeland, so I don't really feel like this is even a proper strategy for arguments here.
>>132734 > But to the point; I have no reason to pursue "a win" in an argument that is founded on fraudulent foundations. Junior.. you must realize your argument is founded on fraudulent foundations. This master has no reason to pursue a "win" -- for I have already won.
>>132733 it teaches you to read banana, samsung, kim jong un (il), and gangnam the twist was that the page he was on was gangnam all along
>>132738 I lost my shit, like I said.
>>132744 Have you checked the toilet? It might be there.
>>132740 bitch how can your WoGs be wrong for a setting YOU wrote?
Anyone know of any perks that allow you to be omnipotent in your own domain/places of power? I know we had a few somewhere
>>132747 Marvel Magic has your own hell to rule.
>>132746 You are new to this whole fiction thing aren't cha?
>>132703 Isn't this literally just the Naruto strategy? The dude trained like 3 times throughout the entire story, the rest was just making friends with people who made up for all of his flaws unconsciously alongside some pre-birth nepotism.
>>132747 I'm pretty sure being a God in I Saved Too Many Girls does that.
God I can't fucking stand my parents, I love them as family but I can't stand them as people it's like they can't help themselves from being shitty hateful cunts most of the time, I need to get out of this fucking house. Gimme jumps so I can disassociate and pretend i'm somewhere else, low powered shounen shit would be preferable.
>>132734 Its almost as if you do not see how wrong you are at any time and will dig in and struggle and screech for hours any time someone proves you wrong.
>>132745 I'm constipated
>>132732 >Somehow Korean wuxia is more repetitive than Chinese Wuxia It's actually not that surprising if you know the history of both of them. Murim doesn't have the political history that Wuxia does.
>>132746 When the author arbitrarily changes their mind later in the series and their WoG becomes wrong. This happens constantly in fiction because despite what a lot of people think most writers have no fucking clue what's going to happen 10 chapters down the line and thus any statements they make can and are liable to be completely overturned at any moment.
>>132752 Damn I cant remember any low power shonen, maybe you could try cyberpunk and enjoy the bullshit they deal with for a bit?
>>132752 Death Note.
>>132756 Remember when he said Authorities couldn't be shared?
>>132756 It's more of a problem for eastern serialized work because the editorial interference happens in the midst of the story instead of after it's already completed. Basically all of their authors are working under the nerf of a weekly/monthly/bi-monthly release, and it shows because this shit happens all the time.
>>132752 >Low powered shounen I'm so sorry to do this to you, but it seems like Baki might be your only option.
>>132757 Oh yeah Psycho did put out a jump for that recently didn't he, i'll look into it, thanks anon. >>132758 More of a senin but thanks in anycase. >>132761 I will kill Yujiro with a big net and gun, thanks anon.
>>132761 But how are you going to escape this polydodecahedron now that you've used up all of your piss???
>>132752 Fist of the North Star, Kengan Ashura,Jojos, Baki, Dishonored, Soul Eater, Soulslikes, Baoh the Visitor, Street Fighter, King of Fighters, Hotline Miami
>>132764 Thank you anon, you've given me alot to look into.
Remember: to be a proper Dark Side Force Wielder, you need to be deeply in touch with your emotions.
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Is this another case of "Argent is right but is arguing in such a stupid way that nobody WANTS to agree with him"?
>>132765 No problem. Honestly just go Jojos, but I stand by the take that Hotline Miami and Soulslikes are shounens.
>>132730 >>132732 Simulation becomes Simulacra Now is the time of monsters
>>132766 I think in touch implies self-reflection. To be a proper dark side wielder you need to feel your emotions like a shounen protagonist - completely intense, at all the time.
>>132759 When did he say that? I can't find it and I like reading retcons
>>132766 Nah, to be a proper dark side user you have to be an emotionally self indulgent Fatboy manchild that never bothers thinking about anything over the dichotomy of "that shit is lamer than me/that shit is cooler than me". This is why Palpatine was so successful. What you're talking about is being Revan or C*edus which turns you into a jobber. Remember guys, always be Palpatine, don't be Redditvan.
>>132693 I've been ignoring most of this discussion to avoid spoilers, but it's the holding on to hope in the face of all the suffering vibe that drew me in. I also think Subaru needing to use whatever he has on hand to overcome seemingly impossible bullshit is a fun gimmick.
Honestly as silly as it is I think one of the reasons why I don't go to part 1 and 2 of JoJo so much despite part 2 being one of my favorite parts and being obsessed with martial arts (and therefore the ripple and it's martial art sendo) is that i've become as twink pilled as Araki has and I don't want to be a big beefy bara guy but that does seem to be the type of body that Hamon/Sendo training would put you as a guy.
>>132772 I don't think palpatine was that indulgent. Sure, the guy had a lot of sith artifacts in his office just to show the jedi he could but i think the core of his success was that he was meticulous in everything he did instead of taking what satisfied him most.
>>132767 Argent has two modes: asserting absolute fanon as canon and chimping out when he's objectively proven wrong and being technically correct in a way that makes everyone hate him because he's a deranged, entitled sociopath who proceeds to personally attack everyone he even vaguely perceives as disagreeing with him.
>>132774 Whenever the older JoJo's are drawn in the modern Araki art style they're also "twinks" so that's more an art style thing than a fact of their lives
>>132741 >The problem here is if you believe someone is arguing in bad faith, proving it without a shadow of a doubt is always the best way forward, Not if you care about not wasting your time and not arguing in circles for an entire thread. Someone with a bad faith position will not be convinced otherwise, and continuing to argue with them wastes everyone's time, but especially your own.
>>132717 Korean Bread.
>>132706 >neat NGL it is kinda lame. I appreciate it not being dumbass stomp, but I found magic exceptionally boring in this one.
>>132752 Relatable. As for jumps, low-powered shonen are rare but Medabots, if we have a jump for that.
>>132493 >second pic Did... did that artist just steal the daedric script from the Elder Scrolls for his power up visuals?
>>132781 Yeah we have a Medabots jump, even if it’s an older one
>>132782 Art theft and tracing is absolutely rampant in manwha and you'd be amazed at the shit that just gets blatantly stolen solely because suing them is functionally impossible.
So for UBW Abridged the scope is much more narrowed than Stay Night as a whole. Does this work as a set of origins? >Shirou/Archer origin >Rin origin >Bae-ber origin >Enemy stands/stand users origin (possibly separate origins) The servant stuff is all gonna be in its own section
>>132781 >>132783 Thank ya both, I remember getting dvds for that at mcdonalds as a kid.
>>132771 I'm not searching it. Sorry. I only vaguely look at QnA to laugh at it.
>>132782 I never followed TES, but a lot of comments agreed that Minsu's legs were in daedric script. >>132787 Nta but
>>132782 It's not theft if you can't sue. Probably. You'd be surprised by how much chinese or korean manga steals.
>>132775 I disagree with this to a degree. Palpatine was immensely indulgent, but he can wait. The plan to take over the Republic was partly his master's but Palpatine was a savvy enough operator to see it through until the end. However, Palpatine can basically be boiled down: do whatever makes me the most satisfied as soon as feasibly plausible without screwing myself over in the immediate future. Once Palpatine became Emperor there was no longer any need to wait, he could indulge in his sadism, paranoid self-preservation schemes and grand displays of intimidation at will.
>>132785 Yeah sounds good, would it be too much to have a toggle or something to disconnect it from the wider type-moon universe of bullshit?
>>132775 He inherited nearly all of that meticulous planning, killed the one sith master under the rule of two that would have just let him slide while giving him immortality, and set up his entire empire to collapse into a series of warring states if he ever died knowing full well the Vong were wary of a united galaxy, all while a rebellion was brewing. He is the definition of self indulgence, his favorite hobby was dangerous street racing that he only survived because he was a force sensitive, and which didn't ruin his political career because his dad was rich, and Plagieus hooked him on Dark Side drugs.
>>132787 >>132788 (me) nta but I didn't find it.
>>132792 >killed the one sith master under the rule of two that would have just let him slide while giving him immortality >and Plagieus hooked him on Dark Side drugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo
>>132789 I remember a simulation story where the guy ascended into an upper world trap that was a mental hospital designed to break transcendents, and literally no shit Fang Yuan from RI was there as a minor villain who also ascended. Sometimes you just have to respect the blatant nature of it.
>>132784 Wasn't there a manhwa called windbreaker that had to end because it got so blatant it caused a minor controversy?
>>132776 Wow you are incredibly hostile. >>132781 We do, it's kinda old.
>>132793 Neither do I, qna are annoying to find.
>>132796 The fact that it has to get unbelievably obvious before it causes "a minor controversy" and has to end should honestly tell you more than anything.
>>132797 Argent has been incredibly hostile to me in the past. So I don't particularly care if I come across as hostile or not. It's not my job to be polite to that asshole.
>>132791 I don't know how connected it is to begin with, really
>>132797 This anon pretty much sums up my feelings towards him as well.>>132800 Except I have actually been banned for even suggesting argent just be filtered
>>132796 I remember one that copied Bleach, and Kubo took offence of it.
>>132800 An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
>>132804 And none allows one to poke out the whole world's eyes until only he can see.
>>132804 I hate this fucking saying so much. Since childhood I've always wondered how the fuck this would ever be the case. An eye for an eye just means the motherfuckers gouging out eyes lose their eyes. The only way this makes sense is if you let the fucker who started gouging eyes demand an eye as recompense.
>>132804 If the world only has two eyes, there's a problem.
>>132784 Using the same stock assets is incredibly common in Otome Isekais. I remember this one reddit thread where they found the same castle used in like forty different ones Also someone else wrote a fanfiction about a background character who keeps getting put in different onces.
shut the fuck up about eyes Confucius
>>132802 You don't just get banned for suggesting to ignore someone. Considering you said you were banned before for talking to Argent, I'm assuming you were one of the two who caused the thread shitstorms for Changed. That ban was deserved.
>>132795 The World After the Fall is the name of the story.
>>132809 No. The metaphors shall continue until the answer improves.
>>132803 That was a western comic artist who was the son of some famous person.
>>132812 What the fuck is this chinese Dracula.
>>132814 Chinese Confucius actually.
>>132795 I think I vaguely remember that. Never read it since I didn't want to take the chance of it being all a dream again. What was the name of it?
>>132815 Bullshit, it's Castlevania's Dracula but chinified.
>>132814 >>132815 Or rather, to correct myself, the KOREAN version of Confucius.
>>132785 Gilgamesh is a incarnated servant from the last war, right? You could give the option to be a incarnated servant, with the cavet that you can't actually produce your own mana like a servant, but since you're probably giving magic circuits to the jumper, I feel like that'd not be too much of a problem. Would homunculi be a race? With tiers for Leyristt/sella and Illya? Where would Kuzuki's martial arts be placed on? On magecraft - not sure what youre planning on doing, but just an idea - a general perk similar to what Shard did to Witch on the holy night would work better? So youd get utter basic shit like shirou, decent young mage like Rin, and does Zouken appear in the abridged? I legit can't remember if he does. If he doesn't, then fuck I guess. I still feel like thats a better way to handwave shit like magic circuits, talent, affinities and so on since ai doubt the abridged goes too deep on that.
>>132817 Nah, not pale enough.
>>132810 Nope, I dont care about changed.
>>132817 He doesn't share a single feature with Castlevania's Dracula though?
>>132820 Oh yeah, clearly, it's the skin and not the clothes that we should focus on!
>>132817 His clothes look more like Netflix Dracula than game Dracula.
>>132006 Cultist Simulator has a capstone for Old Man Henderson-ing, now that I think of it lovecraft jumps probably do too
>>132816 >Are you crazy? He became an Immortal Emperor just after I became an immortal! >疯了吧?我刚先天他就仙帝了! It's pretty bad, half the story is just like 4 different simulations, and I had to quit after he ascended to an upper world that was just a modern Xianxia, and started an ethnic cleansing campaign against all non-chinese people for literally no fucking reason except China Numbah Wan despite the main character previously having shown himself to be a total piece of shit that helped no one without being paid for it and betraying them later. It had already happened once before in the story, so the second time it happened I just gave up on the idea of Chinese authors not being ultra nationalist cucks after the great CCP enforcement.
>>132822 >those robes >those patterns >even the crooked hand that is just placed elsewhere Bro... >>132824 To be fair, Dracula Netflix and the normal Draculas have the same fashion sense. Minus the NES games I guess?
>>132826 >cleansing >China Numbah Wan Goddamnit. Why is this so fucking common? I just want to read one Xianxia that doesn't go around saying everyone non-Chinese are barbarians and inflicting horrific crimes against them.
>>132814 >is this chinese Dracula I can sort of see it I guess.
>>132827 >Robes in a style Dracula hasn't worn >Patterns that don't match Dracula >Weird hand thing I think you're just imagining things?
>>132828 Because the CCP has control of everything. Reverend Insanity itself was prohibited from finishing because the idea of freedom in the story was too strong for the ccp sensibilities.
>>132831 One of the xianxia guys got an in with the ccp and asked them to ban any other story that didn't fit his xianxia.
>>132637 >Clone Wars / 29 - 21 BBY / +200 Force Points Disciple of Teräs Käs Echo of Destiny [800] Silent Teacher [100] Force-Infused Blade [200] Resonance of the Blade [300] Galactic Philosopher [200] Mind Like a Holocron [200] Force-Guided Brilliance [600] Calm in the Current [100] Force Overcharge [200] Forge of the Force [600] Meditative Force Teacher Medical Corps Various freebies Sorcery [400] Perception [100] Unorthodox Reputation [+100] If You Find Money on the Road, Take it… [+200] Prejudiced Heritage [+200] Unwanted Past [+200] Isolated Life [+200] Homesick [+200] Overprotective Master [+200] Renegade Angel [+200] Underestimated [+200] Fated and Watched [+400] Relentless Training [+400] So how this shit all works together, uh... I guess I am Mandalorian, who decided against completely severing connections with Mandalore culture. My teacher is a tremendous hardass, and I forced into a training regiment that would probably kill anyone who is not both mightily powerful in the force and capable of magical self-restoration. Both my and my teacher's opinions on the force only increase frictions further. Because of the war, this haven't yet led to immediate censure and exile from the jedi temple. I am not gonna lie, this is probably gonna end up on Mustafar, in a lightsaber duel with Anakin. If jumper survives past that, then it is time for studying force esoterica and finally inventing light-side longevity/immortality techniques.
Would you say Six Eyes + Sukuna talent would let you recreate cursed techniques you’ve seen in another world with more freeform magic? Like Naruto or something.
>>132830 >bro say this as two people agree with me It's alright, I don't want to post Dracula's arts anyways.
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What would Kreia think of the Force itself simping for you?
>>132836 >Do you see the force, my student? Can you feel the bitch? >Slap it. >Do it now.
>>132828 After that absolute pos the Dead Wife Demon Venerable acted as the CCPs mouthpiece to get some legitimate reason to invade the novel space, they all basically became mouthpieces for the Chinese government. They realized they could influence more of the lonely losers who read those novels instead of trying old propaganda tactics, and since most of their audience is Chinese they're not exactly gonna complain about their country being out above all the others, and can more easily ignore everyone else getting fucked because they're not everyone else. There's a reason why before that this essentially never happened, and even dogshit like Against the Gods never had something like that happen, or portrayed foreigners as this huge existential problem all the time. It's also why you'll now see MCs that will always cuck out to whatever homeland power they start in and be a dog forever, and rarely if ever usurp their starting empire, or kill the Emperor who is portrayed as a total piece of shit unless they're from a foreign kingdom or something.
>>132819 Servant stuff and Homunculus stuff will be included in a "race" type section, though servants will also get their own section. >Kuzuki's martial arts Perk in the enemy Mage section >Magecraft There's still gonna be a Rin perk for being a special genius because that's her thing. Otherwise it's just general perks
>>132836 Flip the fuck out. Calmly of course.
>>132836 Shed just seethe it isn't happening to her. 90% of her character is just plain hypocrisy and jealousy that the force doesn't think she's the main character, and I don't give a fuck what Avellone thinks about it.
>>132834 It should
>>132682 I know, right?
>>132833 Great build! Good to see my idea of backgrounds are working as intended.
>>132836 She'd seethe and spout some philoso-babble about how this justifies her beliefs in it puppeting everyone and how it's a good thing to want to be removed from its clear manipulation.
>>132828 Try reading some Xuanhuan instead.
>>132846 That's even worse because they might get set in the modern day, and it becomes way more blatant at that point. If it isn't, then it'll just be the same fantasy racism except they're all just the barbarian race.
>>132837 >>Slap it. >>Do it now. >The Force starts simping even harder
>>132845 I mean, she wouldn't be wrong.
>>132836 Serious answer, tho... ...Honestly I think argument could be made that this is already a thing with Exile as per Kotor 2, and she is just enamored with cynical grimdark takes on the settings metaphysics to see that. She has some points to make once in a while, but she is too much of a bitter old hag to take any of what she says at face value.
>>132837 >>132848 >The Dark Side keeps my pimp hand strong!
>>132847 I agree. In fact, you can bet any modern xianxia is made only with the purpose of being propaganda because after 300-400 chapters the mc just travels to a generic xianxia world pre-industrial revolution.
>>132846 Nta but what is a Xuanhuan?
>>132854 Xianxia but [insert gimmick here].
>>132854 Less emphasis on levels and stages and shit, and more emphasis on fantasy. If it is shit, it is basically >>132855
>>132855 >>132856 Isn't that basically just every Xianxia?
>>132785 So how would you say it compares to base Stay Night? Also did you ever get around to reading the visual novel? Also If you want to experience Tsukihime without sitting through either of the visual novels or the dog shit anime, the manga is really good it's mainly an adaptation of Arc's route though it brings in stuff from all of them.
>>132854 Broad Chinese fantasy, with fewer - if any - cultivation tropes. Sometimes incorporates Western elements.
>>132859 That... sound better?
>>132854 Generic Chinese fantasy genre IIRC. So it might have cultivation, but it's gonna be of something like Coiling Dragon where it's magic, or LoTM, where it's mysteries. It also might not have cultivation at all, and just be a regular fantasy story with or without systems. It's a catch all term the way fantasy is a catch all term, it just misses out on the Daoist themes of a Xianxia and the struggle for immortality/enlightenment that defines them.
>>132854 I usually see it used to describe Xianxia stories set in a somewhat more Western style High Fantasy setting.
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>>132673 >favorite ecchi jumps DxD, Campione for sure. >jumps for any ecchi media within this year For sure we have new jumps of that type. >Combine DxD with Campione for sure. Prisma, Sailor Moon, Nanoha and Madoka for magical girl overload.
Wuxia > Murim > Xuanhuan > Xianxia
>>132863 You're a gem, thank you anon.
>>132860 Not in itself, but % of actual flaming garbage is s l i g h t l y lesser. Notice the emphasis. Much like western fantasy, vast majority of everything in th genre is still shit, its just xuanhuan doesn't shoot itself in the leg at the start of the race.
>>132858 Wdym, like powerlevel? Isn't it essentially just the same setting with different characters?
>>132858 >how would you say it compares to base Stay Night It's pretty much just UBW route because it's UBW Abridged. >Did you ever get around to reading the visual novel? Yeah, I read it a few years ago
>>132867 I meant more like character stuff since it's an abridged, if they changed any events, that type of thing. >>132868 Nice.
>>132867 EHhh. Abridged is not actually Abridged. See Freezer getting smote by god of Abraham in DBZ abridged.
>>132854 As others have said, its like Xianxia but with a more magic/fantasy focus, and less of an immortality focus. "Chinese fantasy" as opposed to "Cultivation". >>132860 Eh, it's often plagued with many of the same kind of problems, but with slightly more variety in world building stuff.
>>132861 >>132862 >>132866 >>132871 Hmmm. Thanks for the info. But it seems just lika lot of xianxia in general.
>>132872 They are often similar enough that people mistake one for the other, yes.
>>132844 There is a bunch of space for improvement, but I am more or less done with that one. I just wanted to see how far you could take things here. Apparently, pretty far.
>>132872 People frequently confuse them. You'll still see a lot of people saying Coiling Dragon/Panlong is a xianxia, for example.
>>132872 Genre separation is often arbitrary and vaguely pointless.
>>132870 what when did that happened?
>>132877 Goku vs Freiza >"Well if I'm really that bad then let god strike me down where I stand" >*lightning* >"Ha! Nice try jack ass! Next time give it your A game" Episode 27? 28? Can't remember.
>>132878 If god exists in the dbz universe what his power level?
>>132879 Nobody scanned him.
>>132879 Less than Kami, because YHWH definitely wouldn't let him slide with that name.
>>132879 Most rationably, over 9000. Happy?
Could I use Multi-Dimensional Intersection drawback in God Slaying Blade Works to cross with other Campione cross fic? And how would it work if I would choose to cross with Star Wars universe? Portal between universes opening on Naboo during invasion or several portals across Earth opening each to different planet and making Earth as sort or hub that is even better then hyperlanes? Want to transport between Tatooin and Naboo? Just use portals and drive on earth between Berlin and Moscow. Way faster then going by space.
>>132879 Old Testament God would be like Ginyu Force level. New Testament God would be towards the very end of Dragon Ball GT/the very beginning of Dragon Ball Super/Battle of Gods. At absolute maximum powerscaling he's a Kaioshin/God of Creation that caps out at sealed, non-serious Jiren level.
>>132879 He exists, he's relative to his other half, king piccolo.
>>131846 That Thing Where You’re Just About To Sneeze, But Then Your Friend Is All “Hey, What’s Up” And You Suddenly Freeze But Then You Still Have That Nose Tingle, It’s A Horrible Tease And You’re Like “FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKL
>>132884 >Could I use Multi-Dimensional Intersection drawback in God Slaying Blade Works to cross with other Campione cross fic? I suppose so, the drawback explicitly includes things like crossing over with other parts of fate like Tsukihime. >Star Wars That would be possible, and a reason why different Star Wars factions try to invade for the same purpose that they fight over hyperlanes.
>>131846 Comfort. Worst god to piss off ever.
What makes kung fu man so special to Medea? Is it because he saved her or because he's like an ambitionless husk?
>>132663 >>132690 After taking some time to think, yeah, that's not happening. Whatever. I'm sure I'll find something, and if I don't then oh well. I have nothing to prove.
>>132890 You don't need much to fall in love.
>>132890 He's honestly just a pretty good guy outside of the whole assassin thing, they click on alot of levels.
>>132888 Thanks, I will have build done sooner or later today for GSBW.
>>132890 It's because he saved her and because he's completely devoted to her happiness being her manic pixie dream girl contrary to the more egoistic Jason.
Could Re:Zero beat Goku?
>>132893 >pretty good guy >Helps a witch murder and eat countless people
>>132896 >Re:Zero Who?
>>132896 Blowing the planet deals with a lot of enemies.
>>132897 Amiable, personable, professional. That sort of good, not a moral statement.
What did jumper and co do in MegaMind?
>>132901 We have that?
>>132890 He's a depressive fuck. She's a depressive fuck. Together, they become less depressive fucks as the gap moe hits.
>>132890 because he was 100% genuinely down to help her with whatever she needs without any judgment or ulterior motives. Anyone else helping her would likely have been turned into a puppet.
>>132890 Read Emiya Gohan.
>>132904 >Anyone else helping her would likely have been turned into a puppet. Nah I'd win.
>>132895 >he's completely devoted to her happiness So he's a good boyfriend?
>>132896 Nope. >>132897 Pls understand they are very nice guy deep down. Please love them very very much. Ignore the atrocities they did.
>>132902 if we don't, then we need one.
>>132907 Don't try and cuck Medea Psycho, that road won't lead to anywhere good for you.
>>132907 Much more, he's enabling her into doing whatever she wants, a good boyfriend would probably try to reign her in.
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>>132902 It's in the Dreamworks Series folder.
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Do we have any perks that make things bigger on the inside than outside? Also do we have any perks that allow you to hurt or harm enemies and bypass their defenses? I know gurren Lagann has one but I can't afford it
>>132717 Two answers. One, it is the generic setting used by many fantastical martial arts stories with consistent groups and themes. Two, it is "the martial world," as in the name for martial artist society itself.
The weirdest Xuanhuan I've read is one where those National Games are a thing, which is basically a separate space/game and whenever the players handpicked from X nation get something it manifests like hundreds, thousands or more times on the territory of said nation in reality. Anyway, this particular kind of game was about farming on floating Islands and as they level up they get bigger, farm more etc basic RPG stuff. MC had a synthesis cheat and only due to this brokenness did he manage to get past a curse the USA placed on their national luck, USA in this setting was the Great Satan, Yahweh was a demon as well, Russians were shapeshifter werebears and also hate China and are best buddies with the USA and Europe, Indians keep failing because they can't stop fucking the monsters and dying in the process and Japanese are stalking every single movement the MC does and larp as imperialists as well as constantly perma-seething whenever he synthesises a new OP seed or material.
>>132912 Guess I know where I will be going after cyberpunk
>>132890 He's her Manic Pixie Dream Boy
>>132913 >Also do we have any perks that allow you to hurt or harm enemies and bypass their defenses? From NES Pack in the Shatterhand Origin >600cp - Punch that thing in particular >Some things can't take a punch, so they hide behind armor. That won't save them now. Whenever you punch someone, you may re-direct the force of the blow past the point of impact, bypassing armor to strike vulnerable organs and systems directly. You can also freely adjust the intensity and direction of the force applied, should you wish to punch someone in the foot to make their eyes explode out of their sockets. The force of your punches will lose energy depending on the distance you project them and how sturdy the material you try to bypass, but that's ok - it's traditional to destroy big enemies piece-by-piece.
>>132912 Remember that Titan was just a normal loser that went power made over a week. I am pretty sure some of you guys would do the same.
>>132915 >National Games Ah yes, the epitome of "china numba 1" stories. I like how many of them are "the MC isekai's as a character from a japanese story, enters the Games, proceeds to shit all over japan."
>>132917 I looked up this term when used in the series and I guess it's just another case of people complaining about "one dimensional depictions of wahmen in media!!!"
>>132915 What did I just read?
>>132913 I was gonna mention the NES Pack perk too, but I thought that Fate Nirvana Yuga had something useful to that effect too. 'Legend of the Mahabharata' makes you a crazy good warrior, and makes it so that any one method of fighting that you chose will always become viable, no matter what. As for being bigger on the inside, Kid Icarus has 'Bigger On The Inside', which makes your guts and stuff gigantic and fortified. Probably not broadly useful, but it kinda counts.
>>132921 not originally. "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" originally just used to describe "quirky and crazy girl who is wholly devoted to you and will always help you out." Then feminists learned the term and decided to bitch about it.
>>132913 >Do we have any perks that make things bigger on the inside than outside? use Harry Potter Magic.
>>132920 Overall the concept is quite interesting and these "National Games" are quite varies in what sort of games are played. I recall there being a similar concept but with "National Marriage", you pick one of several door and you either get a wife(good) or wife(bad) or just random powerup, house etc everything you need for a marriage, I've seen a few "Lord Type" national games and MMORPG types of games, games where you reincarnate in some anime/video game are also somewhat common. >>132922 No, you didn't read it, I did.
Just finished watching Rebels and i still can't believe wolf furry Filoni invented time travel to save his waifu. Holy shit.
>>132928 Its worse than that, he made it multiversal reality travel too.
>>132927 I'd be more willing to read them if they weren't so blatantly "and then the country that the author doesn't like got destroyed horribly"
>>132927 If I felt like I was having a stroke reading this post, I'm scared of what you got by reading the actual thing.
>>132928 People always accused George of being bad, it turns out it was Wolf fioni
>>132931 God I love huge boobs, I wish they were more common in non qq jumps.
>>132930 I remember this particular author simping hard for Pakistan for some weird reason. Every other country got destroyed. >>132932 It's kind of like drinking 100 redbulls across 100 days instead of drinking 100 redbulls in a day.
>>132934 My brother.
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>>132933 And don't even get me started on space whales being a deus ex machina for the ending of the series. From Filoni to Kathleen Kennedy, everyone who worked with George were completely incompetent.
>>132919 Nah, I’d immediately end up hiding in some godforsaken artic hellhole where nobody could find me.
>>132939 It turns out that George was the one who kept everything together, Ironic. Clone wars was also so much better
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>>132934 I know what you mean. Later in the current Jump I think my companions are gonna hook me up with a gifted Tang wife. Technically Legend of the Northern Blade spoilers, but also it was the only panel I could remembe of her for a clean full-profile. Not using that setting given it is pretty shit (to live in) by Murim standards, just running an expy of sorts. It's kinda odd to have an expy of a character but you're barely changing anything, including their family situation.
>>132937 >Pic The legendary irl waifu pull
>>132928 To be fair to him we had time travel long before that in Star Wars, the Aang Ti in legends could just do it on a whim. >>132929 We also had this to a degree with Waru being from another universe
>>131392 Jump 6: Shantae Origin: Guardian Perks: >Beach Body (Free) >Ret-2-Go! (Free) >Best Frenemies (Free) >Martial Magician (100) >Visions of Peril (200) >Line of Heroes (200) >Guardian of Sequin Land (300) >Right Makes Light (300) Items: >House by the Sea (Free) >Healing Waters (100) >Tropical Paradise (100) Companions: >Scheherazade (100) >Nitocris (100) >Queen Of Sheba (100) —-- They all get: >Magical Mayhem (300), Beach Body (Free), Dance Through the Danger (100), Just Keep Dancing (200) —-- Drawbacks: Sweet Cheeks (+100) Island of Lost Souls (+200) A Guardian’s Work is Never Done (+300) I was laying down on the hammock, watching the sun set over the beach, while caressing Nitocris' head. Who, after a long day of building up-to-scale sand pyramids, was sleeping soundly on top of me. The mighty Pharaoh had recently taken the habit of using me as her bed. “You were right. I could grow accustomed to this kind of contentment” I said to Scheherazade. Who was recovering from our last five hour long lovemaking lazily swinging on a hammock next to mine, while dressed in a gold slavegirl outfit I had procured from Tan Line Island. “I’m glad” She responded earnestly. The storyteller quickly discovered she wasn't made for adventuring. ‘My place is in the bed chamber, not on a flying ship fighting off hordes of malevolent spirits’, she had said to me after an adventure that took way longer than I had anticipated. So after the Queen Of Sheba acquired the deeds to a chain of islands, she was quick to suggest I pick up other hobbies that didn't involve battling ancient evils or unearthing long lost cities. I didn't mind slowing down a bit. After all, I wasn't gonna grow bored with the attention of my three wives. And the downtime allowed me to perfect my architectural skills. I was already thinking of tearing down our current Manse to replace it with a better design that had occurred to me this morning. But then, as we contemplated the sunset, a giant paradise bird carrying a blonde and two purplettes dived from the sky and slammed against the sand next to us.
[Expand Post] “Azir!” exclaimed the local half-genie heroine “Something big has come up!” “I just bought multiple war bird aviaries!” Interrupted Sheba “And with the help of Sky over here my transport company is almost ready to start its operations! Soon I'll have an iron grip on aaaall the bazars!” She said ambitiously “...Oh, and the Mermaid Empress has freed herself from her seal. Or something” “Didn't I already dealt with her last week?” “That was the Mermaid Empress. This one is the Abyssal Mermaid Empress” explained Shantae “And she's on her to drag Scuttle Town to the bottom of the sea if we don't do something!” Alas, even if i didn't go looking for it, GLORY would still knock at my doorstep. I carefully rose up from the hammock and placed the sleeping form of Nitocris on top of Schehe. Her second favorite bed. With a flick of the wrist I summoned Unconquered to my side “How many siren mermaid empresses are there anyways?” I asked while getting on the war bird. Shantae simply shrugged “More than we thought apparently”
>>132942 Eh you could have chosen way worse
>>132928 >>132929 Do you think you could reach the Legends timeline by going through the rifts?
Brown anime hoes are soo sex
>>132947 I hope not. Keep Disney's Cancer Wars as separate from real Star Wars as possible.
>>132947 Palpatine would see you coming and force storm you out of existance for the attempt. Or the Legends godbeings would do that instead, you'd also be without legends level powers given the canon version of the jump sticks you on that power scale so you're ships would get fucking nuked out of space or maybe Abeloth would see you as a little snack or pest sneaking about in her childrens playhouse.
>>132947 >Do you think you could reach the Legends timeline by going through the rifts? Probably but 99% of all star wars jumps are for legends or have a toggle for it anyways.
>>132947 The distance between the two are of parallel realities, not parallel universes.
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>>132949 I like the disney ships, well except the Xyston becuase thats just fucking stupid given how backstabby the Empire is.
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>>132948 They're a rarer treat for me since I fall into the trope of a black guy who's into other races way more than his own but they're still nice every now and then.
>>132928 >>132944 When do we get the Star Wars x Fate Stay Night crossover where Vader travels back in time to kill Anakin, causing Anakin to awaken his reality marble - Unlimited Star Wars ?
>>132955 His reality marble would be probably either be Unlimited Sand Works or Unlimited Cringe Works
>>132946 Hyun is indeed a shit. I think Mi Ryeo unironically just being kind without an ounce of petty revenge in her body was honestly kinda surprising, because I swear to god the author kept teasing scenes like she was absolutely gonna do some shit. Tang Clan was so good in that story.
>>132954 I do like me some cute bucks, if you know what I mean.
What do you think would be a reasonable price in Generic Isekai for a custom cheat based on Overlords mercenary system. Basically Jumper gets 'data' from monsters he defeats(or maybe just use magic stones dropped by monsters), which he can use to summon monsters loyal to himself by spending gold. With price heavily depending on he strength of the monster. Though without the idea of using up data. So getting the data from like one goblin would be enough to create as many goblin mercenaries as he is willing to pay for.
>>132954 >since I fall into the trope of a black guy who's into other races way more than his own I have a friend whose just like you
>>132960 I would say 500 or so, but can't you get something like samurai Jack?
>>132954 Most brown anime girls are just tan, not black
>>132960 Probably 600-1000 depending on what level you cap the minions you can create at. I would say the Demon Spawn perk form Hero BBS would probably be the better option if thats why you're going to the Isekai jump given Hero BBS is basically just isekai central.
>>132960 Isn't that just MtG summoning magic but you need to pay money for it?
>>132959 Oddly my Jumper's do have a tendency to either be cute boyish twinks or femboys but i'm also not really into raceplay or more masculine men in most cases. >>132961 Can't guess why it'd be like that for your friend but for me i'd say it's because I grew up in a largely white small town so the only black people I really saw when I was younger was my family, I didn't have another black classmate until I was like 15 and in another small town and even then there were only like 3 of us and the only girl was a huge bitch from Africa. >>132963 And?
>>132966 Nothing odd about that sugarplum.
>>132965 >>132964 >>132962 I specifically want a summoning option that works via money.
>>132966 He went to a school full of other blacks so he started disliking them personally, and he used to act like Carlton banks and listens to Kamen rider and Rock music more than rap >>132968 Well then go for it anon, It could be a sub option of the Gacha power
>>132968 >specifically want a summoning option that works via money Fate Grand Order
>>132954 Who are your top 5 five waifus then?
>>132964 >Probably 600-1000 depending on what level you cap the minions you can create at I was thinking no theoretical max level, but the cost dramatically goes up the more powerful it is, with every more powerful than high tier adventurers being becoming absurdly expensive.
>>132972 Probably 800 then, problem is you could get an infinite wealth power from that jump pretty cheap in comparison balancing self created powers in a jump is always a fucking pain
>>132968 >I specifically want a summoning option that works via money. See >>132970 The overlord guild bases also have the mercenary summoning.
>>132969 Very different to me then. >>132971 That is an ever changing list so i'll just list the first 5 to come to mind: >Lady from Devil May Cry >Chun Li from Street Fighter >Cassandra Cain from DC >Yerin Arelius from Cradle >Tatsumaki from Bleach Husbando list: >Cosmo Imai from Kengan >Inaba Ryo from Kengan >Okada Izou from FGO >Lio from Promare >Deku from MHA
>>132954 >Spoiler Same, imagine fucking humans.
>>132968 Alterworld has that, you can summon pretty much anything to work for you on your properties but they have an upkeep cost World seed too iirc
>>132975 >Tatsumaki from Bleach
Looking at gene isekai, is a golem really inanimate? Like sure its artificial but they move
>>132979 probably depends on how self aware they are.
>>132979 Cars count as inanimate objects
>>132979 Yeah but usually golems are constructs that can't really function or operate without outside influence. They're basically like robots or puppets in a sense. Unless they can reliably move and function on their own input they just idle or shut down, assuming they aren't automated.
>>132981 Fair >>132982 Eh I guess but they also arent going anywhere on their own. Even self driving ones are basically being piloted
>>132983 Yeah thats fair
I don't like the 40k Planetary governor Jump, Everything is way too expensive and things that should be drawbacks, you have to pay for.
>>132976 This. Human """females""" just can't possibly compete
>>132986 Sounds like the Imperium alright.
>>132988 Yeah but it makes an awful jump
>>132975 >Deku Good taste.
>>132986 I mostly like the Jump, but the planet builder is a bit odd and could use some more work, yeah. Like why do you think I'd be willing to pay to have a bunch of sleeping necrons under the planet I have to keep safe? >but you could study them! And just how often does that work out without them waking up and pushing everyone's shit in?
>>132990 Yet again you prove to have absolute shit taste
>>132993 So which twinks do you want to fuck then?
I'm not gae, but if I had choose I would rather a Tanjiro or a Yuji rather than D*ku
>>132989 True. I don't think I've really looked at any of the 40k jumps since Talons of the Emperor came out.
I would kiss Astolfo
>>132984 >Even self driving ones are basically being piloted By that logic, Golems would count as inanimate objects. They're being piloted by their programming after all
The same way your wife kisses him, or you would you use a different technique?
>>132993 You want to fuck men, Generic? I'd never have guessed.
>>132994 Not really attracted to twinks. But anyone can see deku is a shitty choice for almost anything.
>>133000 My wife pegs him
>>133001 Not generic, and you really need to get new material.
>>132997 Young Alexander and Gil are cuter.
>>132995 >Yuji I mean the dude easily recognized the chick that he barely knew who lost a ton of weight. Also aliens are glazing Sukuna too apparently
>>132995 I'd fuck Tanjiro and Deku, but not a Yuji.
Can anyone recommend me some jumps for old kung fu movies?
>>133009 Zato ichi
>>132978 Rukia is top tier to don't get me wrong, Tatsumaki has just had my heart since I watched bleach as a young niglet. >>132990 My man. >>132995 Yuji's a good pick as well but I've only watched season 1 and read the prequel. >>132997 A good if boring choice.
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>>132992 I said the exact same thing to the jump maker and he said it was because mechanicus loves them, they don't and its rare when they don't try to outright destroy them or avoid them. >>132996 I like most of the other jumps, Like the Horus Heresy is great, and you get alot more from it than the Governer jump, also making your own legion is cool. So is the Black Crusade and Imperial Guard and Tyranids and Necrons Tau, SoB. Almost all of them are great
>>133009 Kill Bill.
>>133009 Wuxia and Kung Fu Hustle are the only ones that come to mind.
>>133010 Wait I thought you were asking for movies
>>133014 >Kung Fu Hustle >Old >It came out in 2004 My back
>>133009 Does House of Flying Daggers count?
>>133019 Harvin>Draph
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Mommy wife or slavishly obedient barefoot pregnant housewife?
>>133018 >House of Flying Daggers Yes, thank you.
>>133021 How big is the mommy wife's dick?
>>132987 Which non human race makes the best waifus? Hardmode: the less human looking the better
>>133021 >slavishly obedient barefoot pregnant housewife This.
>>133021 The former.
>>133021 Mommy wife, pregnant wife is great too but trust me it feels like you need to worry about everything. Especially with how every day some new news comes out about some super common shit causing birth defects or long term health issues.
>>133025 She's wearing slippers though.
>>133024 The Xeelee.
>>132897 She didn't devour countless people
>>133012 I generally enjoy almost all of the Warhammer jumps, even dogs of war. They lean really well to making an interesting chain story.
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>>133024 Pokemon.
>>133032 >dogs of war I really wish that jump didn't require you to have an antagonist. I just wanna get explosion magics, a comfy wizard robe, and a staff that grows more powerful over time. I don't wanna get in a fight with weird gnomes or trolls
>>133031 I don't know the number but they were succed to death
>>133021 option c, normal
>>133024 Hertasi
>>133036 Both of these are normal and healthy relationship archetypes
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>>133032 Yeah, but you said you haven't really looked at any since the Custodes jump and I'm just giving you a guide
>>133038 > normal or goonbrain? > its a good wife sir > its goonbrain
>>133041 I respect your opinion, no matter how objectively wrong it is
Just started watching Shaolin Soccer and i can't believe the antagonists team is literally called team evil. kek.
You get a choice to use the potara to fuse two jumpmakers and the fusion is permanent. Which pair do you pick?
>>133045 myrmidont and me so I become based
>>133045 Argent and Generic. It'd be funny
>>133045 Shard and Psycho. I'm curious about the results.
How much do you guys think a cheat in generic isekai (gene) would cost that: 1. Allows you to create anything out of your mana, just costs more mana to create more powerful stuff (based on making magic manga/series) And 2. Allows you to control everything you have created/derivitives of anything you have created (so like if I make a fire I can also control the leftover ash and coal)
>>133045 Val and Ric. Probably won't get any of their WIP done but the shit posting would probably be a sight to see.
>>133045 Argent and bancho, I mean its not like they can get much worse but at least the cognitive dissonance would be funny to watch.
>>133045 Gene and Wol, there'd be a new jump like every few days
>>133035 Very few people as it was inefficient killing them. I'm only being obsessively precise from things I barely remember, not saying that they were good people
>>133048 The powerscaling autism posts would never end
>>133020 >Harvin>Draph You couldn't make a more objectively wrong opinion even if you tried.
>>133055 >You couldn't make a more objectively wrong opinion even if you tried. You certainly could! Draph>Harvin for example
>>133045 Va and Ric. Then every jumps gets a free harem of waifus.
>>133045 Red and Spyro. The tall demon and the fat dragon shitposts shall now be one!
>>133045 Val and Ric would be insane.
>>133045 >>133050 Either Val and Blade or Ric and Blade. The first because I want to drag Val back into this with one of our forever jumpmakers, and the second because it would make the resulting jumpmaker even hornier and that amuses me. ...Oh, fuck, Red and Ric. MAXIMUM BEAUTY PERKS.
>>133049 depends, are you gonna use it to create items that will boost yourself? If yes then 1600 like the second tier of upgrade.
>>133058 But red is already a dragon
>>133061 >1600 like the second tier of upgrade I dont see an upgrade option?
>>133056 >Draph>Harvin So you're capable of forming objectively correct opinions after all!
>>133063 NTA, it's in the supplement
>>132945 Shantae is basically the perfect place for a young Solar.
>>133060 >Blade We do not need more futa jumps, we need less.
>>133063 >Upgrader - 800 CP / 1600 CP >You have the ability to infuse mana into literally anything in order to improve it. Evolve a chihuahua into a mythical Fenrir, a beginner’s sword into a dragon-slayer, an old flip-phone into a smartphone, a basic fireball spell into an apocalyptic inferno, etc. You can turn anything into a stronger/better version of itself, even if the exact criteria for “better” are vague or context specific. The only exception to this is that this power cannot be directed at yourself. >Otherwise, you could just upgrade your own mana to let you upgrade anything infinitely. That is, unless you’re willing to pay twice as much to be rid of that pesky limitation.
>>133065 Huh, shit I didnt even know it had a sup
>>133068 Couldn't you just use the base version on a ring that increases your mana?
>>133064 And you're apparently both illiterate AND don't know what date it is. ... Seriously though, I don't like the whole "large breasted cowgirl" thing. My brain always goes immediately to "those things are gonna cause so much back pain" and "girls that are in pain aren't attractive"
>>133071 Nta but that's a pretty gay post.
>>133071 >But were are her organs tier post Keklol
>>133072 The point is that Harven>Draph
>>133067 Okay, but consider, Saber is a futa. That means Val (Fatefag) and Blade (Futafag) have overlapping interests and would therefor be a compatibly fusion.
>>133068 I see now yeah, and mainly the goal is to do like the mc and create fruits that enhance stats but thats not the only goal. Im kind of looking for ways to enhance my godly creation abiloties long term
Draphs and Harvins are both meh tier. Vampires are best! Y'all need to shut up with the shitposting and use your energy to make us a Granblue Jump.
>>133074 Draph>Harvin* Ftfy.
>>133045 How about Psycho and Shard?
>>133071 >girls that are in pain aren't attractive What about horny masochists?
>>133080 For some reason only if they're into choking?
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>>133071 >Still falling for flat lives matter propaganda Anon
>>133070 You could, but even without the mana then you wouldn't be able to upgrade your abilities
>>133081 I've fallen for woman propaganda. Yes, I DO like to be called daddy. Yes, I DO wanna (safely) choke a girl during sex
>>133083 Another ring, to improve other parts of yourself.
>>133070 you could circumvent plenty of example cheat limitations by interpreting the setting differently, but by doing this you do raise the power of the cheat and the price you should give it. >>133076 yeah in that case 1600 seems appropriate, especially given you also got the whole control thing going on.
>>133075 Hear my out and this might sound crazy, we need less of Fate and futas in jumpchain.
>>133086 That's not even interpreting the setting differently, that is literally using the cheat as intended.
>>133087 Say no more. Another Fate jump coming right up.
>>133082 Can the Flat Lives Matter organization survive Jumper putting cheap and safe breast enhancement drugs on the market?
>>133088 the existence of mana increasing enchanted items definitely is based on your own interpretation. I am pretty sure I have never even seen an Isekai where this is a thing, and the base cheat clearly is not intended to account to be used to increase your reserves to circumvent the limitation.
>>133086 Actually looking at it Im temlted to take the one labeled puny god at 1600 since it lets you just make worlds.
>>133039 Thanks, anon. I honestly didn't remember getting Tau at all. I'll probably take a look at it for one of my chains.
>>133091 Nta but pretty much every isekai where the mc is a caster seems to have some mp boosting gear. To be fair it does also generally come in the form of a secondary arbitrarily large mana pool you fill as you go or as a battery type deal.
>>133091 . . . you have never heard of a magic item to increase one of your core stats?
>>133089 Please do not make it Fate: Grand Futa Wars
>>133087 >we need less...futas in jumpchain. Yes, hello, reeducation department? I'd like to report a dissident in need of conversion.
>>133093 No problem anon its really good, it also has an option to get your own Tau army and a toggle for Anime tau. Also please do check other faction jumps
>>133096 That's after the second Stay Night dupe. And the third Grand order dupe. And Fate China.
>>133099 What about Fate Russia and Fate Norse?
when did we achieve total futafag cultural victory. this is acceptable as a minority opinion but the aquaponics on the tank are off when there's more snails than fish
>>133087 Anon you can't just say things like that.
>>133101 We didn't. They just never shut the fuck up.
>>133089 What jump? I'll help.
>>133089 Le reddit provides. There is already a porn Feito jump. Several of zem in fact
>>133105 And thirty thousand more of them on QQ but all of them about Illya's milk
>>133094 can you give some examples? I have genuinely never seen this. usually increased mana reserves I know come from things high level, blessings, bloodlines, cheats, training and the like. >>133095 in Isekai I have this never seen used for MP which is often shown as the primary limitation of magic casters. Even mana potions are pretty uncommon.
>>132912 Okay, I have enough basic powers from other jumps, so I am going to just buy a bunch of weird extra senses for fun. Megamind >Age: Male 25 >Location: City Hall: >Super Perks >Licensed Soundtrack[Free/Optional] >Great Hair[Free to Super] >PRESENTATION[Free to Super] >Public Figure[50CP/Discounted to Super] >He’s Perfect![-100cp/Discounted to Super] >Cops and Robbers[-200cp/Discounted to Super] >Seen It[-400cp/Discounted to Civilian Items >Jumper Museum[-50cp] Powers >Aesthetics[Free/Optional] >Comic Book Physics[Free/Optional] >Loadout[Free to Super] >Power Source[Free to Super] >Super Stamina[-200cp] >Super Senses[-50cp] Unusual Senses[-250cp]: echolocation, thermal vision, tremorsense, electroreception. detective vision Companions >Import[100cp] Drawbacks >Meh-trocity[+100cp] >Freak[+100cp] >The Game[+200cp]
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>>132503 Feels like a Beta Suicine kind of day.
>>133109 Nta but Mushoku Tensei is the perfect example, and probably the Ur Example, the MC has a huge ass MP pool.
>>133109 Well off the top of my head the wand of orcus and mount doom in the demons of astlan series, then theres a series about a guy who got turned into his lich avatar in a game I read that his staff is a second (massive) mana pool he needs to fill up but it generates a bit of mana itself, then many many games use the extra mana as a stat for caster gear. Industrial strength magic from macronomicon series I THINK has something like this but its been a while (he uses octopus brain matter in his spells to cast for him) though not an isekai, then the dresden files has items of power you can draw on for magical energy even if not a wizard but thats not an isekai.
>>133111 This looks like "Suicune in her nerdy highschool girl years" before she has a college glowup and becomes an elegant supermodel.
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>>133045 Myself and Gene so I can get some of his motivation and speed. He'd get, uhhh... My love of porn games? Probably not a great deal for him but you didn't imply I needed consent.
>>133111 Hey, we don't need your Pokemon/MLP crossovers around here.
>>133111 I misread that and got concerned
>>133101 BLADE is very prolific in jump development, and very vocal about his tastes. This emboldens others, and then once the topic gets started it's irresistible bait. Hermaphrodism is a neat concept, but most futanari porn is retarded.
>>133045 Spazz and Shard because then I could go back to hating just the one jumpmaker instead of having to split up that hate between the two of them.
>>133098 I'll give em a shot. My two more focused Warhammer-y chains are still trying to figure out where they'd even go Warhammer 40k wise, the more Souls/Elden Ring one is going much easier in that regard.
>>133112 The point is about mana increasing items. The MC of mushoku tensei has large reserves as result of a bloodline thing and training up his reserves while he was young. >>133113 >demons of astlan not familiar with that, but looking at the item in jump its an actual temple that produces mana as result of how nature interacts with the people living in it. That is not exactly a MP stat boosting item. But sure, point taken on that one. >then theres a series about a guy who got turned into his lich avatar in a game I read that his staff is a second (massive) mana pool he needs to fill up but it generates a bit of mana itself You mean Overlord, its not really a mana pool available to him, the staff just has a bunch of spells it can cast itself, its basically the equivalent of an extremely powerful DnD staff that can regain charges over time. >then many many games use the extra mana as a stat for caster gear defintiely, I am specifically referring to the Isekai genre though where that kind of stuff is extremly rare. Even in Overlord which is based on a game, the lack of mp increasing/recovery opion was noted to be extremly crucial in limiting casters, who could only regain mp naturally and had to otherwise rely on consumables for the most part.
Mommy wife won so there will now be a mommy servant OC in UBW abridged
>>133117 What would beta suicide even be? A test run?
>>132863 Is this Raven in Null's style?
>>133121 >You mean Overlord, No I do not mean overlord
>>133122 Please don't make her Makima.
>>133120 Light of Terra or Horus Heresy, it has an option to give any traits or alt forms you have, to your gene sons
>>133122 Can she actually be your Mother?
>>133101 Futa is based
>>133122 Damn. Who would have been the housewife?
What are some jumps with options for puppetering bodies across large distances? More like mind control/possession instead of a hive mind.
>>133131 I think some Naruto ninjas can do that?
>>133121 Also the one I posted originally, the making magic one, its main thing is she makes fruits to slowly increase mana capacity by a tiny amount each time. Though I suppose you could use the imagination magic option yo make stuff too in the jump.
>>133126 Alright >>133128 Alright >>133130 I didn't have anyone in particular in mind, just the concept itself
Hey do you guys think there is any specific reason the gods in magicians dont just make tons of worlds? I feel like the one god was just not that good at it and needed his brothers help cause he was way too lawful and not chaotic. I mean its shown they CAN do it but they seem to just kinda hang around in one they made.
>>133135 For what we know there where countless billions of worlds. The brothers who where the ones focused on making a square with the atmosphere full of crack.
>>133135 And since Julia could make one easily it shows the Gods were more interested in parties instead of responsabilities.
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>>132888 Here is the promised build. God Slaying Blade Works jump Cp:1000c Age: 20 Sex: Male Location: Canada Origin: Local Mage - [Free]: Perks: Sacred Visage - [Free]: Privilege of Power - [100]: Loosened Rituals - [800]: Theo-Magical Training - [Free]: Neck Covered - [Free]: Mystery Surpassing Divinity [Magic: Light] - [1100]: Authorities [+200]: Passage Between Worlds - [200/200]: Ride of the Valkyries - [1300]: Twelve Lives Manifested - [1700]: Blessings Without End - [2100]: Items: Green and Gold - [Free]: Lavish Mansion - [Free]: Companions [+200]: Prisma Trio - [100/200] Lady of Fluff - [200/200] Drawbacks: Multi-Dimensional Intersection [Gateway fanfic/Star Wars] - [1700]: Divinely Held Grudge - [1500]: Scheming Wizards - [1300]: Sketchy Masters, Overbearing Siblings [Luo Hao as teacher] - [1100]: Maid Syndrome - [1000]: So this jump is huge clusterfuck. All thanks to Multi-Dimensional Intersection drawback. In gateway fic we have mix of Harry Potter, Bleach and Campione that will be mixed again with Fate and Campione from jump with sprinkle of Star Wars(Clone Wars Era) gates that were opened all over the planet. Everyone will have crazy times. Separatists will be fighting with Core to take over Earth. Mix in all god slayers that won't be happy with invaders and maybe after 10 years we will see Lou as Empress of Coruscant with Palpatine as her adviser. Jumper will be strange mage that is mix of Buffer/DPS with side specialization in transport.
>new TH supplement is out >reveals Aechraddath pairs/duos (groups?) are called Brethren >details a bunch of shit about how certain Aechraddath and Brethren have been falling for the Viralborgia pill - many believing "Viralborgia is just another aspect of Omnetheon" (something that apparently has some vague and open to interpretation text in the Omnetheon Imperiavol, including how it might represent change and renewal and evolution per implicit text) and that it should be studied with the same rigor >one such group, the Panharmonical Concordat, have the ostensibly noble goal of studying the Necrium and Viralborgia's characteristics to develop weapons, tools, and means to better fight against it and one day "achieve the long-awaited absolute harmony between Fluxium & Necrium". They are apparently reviled by the wider Aechraddath and the Omnetheon Ecumenaer as violating the pure sanctions and oaths of their orders, and both encourage people to give them all the mistrust and bad reputation they deserve. The Noirmat are apparently part of this group >another created basically a vortex/singularity that reduced him and all his tools to dust >another pair of Brethren, former researchers of the Abyss of Gryvorv, contacted representatives of ANOTHER Viralborgian Dimension called Vorzongeth, got themselves groomed, and created a mad cult called the Vorzongeth Covenant. Said cult is extremely popular and has many adherents from different sectors, including the royal ones So...Shard was definitely right that the Noirmat are shady.
What's a word that would sorta be like race or species while encompassing the concept of heroic spirits and homunculi? Ideally something magic sounding
>>133140 Eidolon.
>>132941 Clone wars was just proto Disney Star wars. It had a lot of rot it introduced, and if it wasn't for anons gooning to Ahsoka(who is quite literally one of those Mary sue characters that shows up out of nowhere then turns out to be responsible for all this shit) and George being a coomer, it would be a lot more obvious to many.
>>133118 What’s a setting with good futa in your opinion?
>>133140 Spirits. Servants are Heroic Spirits. Einzbern Homunculi are artificial Nature Spirits.
>>133142 Personally i want to refute you because i like clone wars but the fact is that George Lucas made the cartoon to sell toys, just like the prequels.
>>133141 >>133144 Okay so I phrased it wrong, I just mean a really magical sounding word for "type of being" since it's a section where you can choose to be human, a homunculus or a servant
>>133140 This >>133141 Or if you don't feel like cribbing Final Fantasy too much, Eikon. >>133146
Besides the basic thermal vision, dimensional awareness and 360 degree vision, what would be some cool or niche extra senses for a superhero to have? I feel as if dark vision is a bit overdone.
>>133148 Horse cock.
>>133143 NTA, but any that remembers that there's a pussy in there too, and that they aren't just gigachads with tits.
>>132954 >Doesn't like them thick dark and gorgeous Ngl my nigga you might be a bit of a disgrace
>>133148 Electroreception, feeling electromagnetic fields. Great for feeling minds and tech.
>>133150 So very few of them then?
>>133152 That would go great with a technopath.
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>>133131 While on the fetish-ier side of things, a large part of TSF World on QQ is all about possession and that kind of shtick.
>>133145 Hey I like the prequels too, and I also have to admit that George just fucked up too many times on some shit during it. It's still incomprehensible that canonically Han Solo was around when the fucking Clone Wars happened and still doesn't believe in the Force even possibly existing.
>>133148 Are you making a giga Byakugan? EM spectrum in general is fun.
>>133151 I still like em my dude, i'm just into others more.
>>133135 It's The Magicians. Anyone with a lick of power and responsibility is either evil or retarded.
>>133154 In fact, i would assume you cannot be a technopath without a sensory aspect like electroreception.
>>133132 Dan, Tsunade's husbando/boyfriend could IIRC, but I'm not sure if that was an anime retcon or part of the manga.
>>133151 No, he's right. You definitely lose any interest in engaging with, let alone viewing black bitches as mating partners after like, a few minutes interacting with them. They can look drop dead gorgeous and they'd still somehow make trailer trash seem less unpleasant.
>>133143 Any one without macro bullshit or weird dominance dynamics. Those are fun to shitpost about, but not as legitimate story elements. Eclipse Phase has some subcultures which fit the bill. The Left Hand of Darkness doesn't have a jump and is sequential hermaphrodism rather than futanari's simultaneous hermaphrodism, but is still decent for inspiration.
>>133162 What a disappointing thing for you to say.
>>133159 So just like real life then.
>>133148 Grab some antenna to sense vibrations.
>>133148 Precog.
>>133148 personally I like to use DnD true seeing. Its pretty useful and magic vision is rather rare. >The subject sees through normal and magical darkness, notices secret doors hidden by magic, sees the exact locations of creatures or objects under blur or displacement effects, sees invisible creatures or objects normally, sees through illusions, and sees the true form of polymorphed, changed, or transmuted things. Further, the subject can focus its vision to see into the Ethereal Plane (but not into extradimensional spaces). Arcane sight is also pretty useful, letting you detect magical auras in the enviroment and around object, and even determine if certain creatures are capable of magic and how powerful their strongest abilities are.
>>133157 No, I was looking at the Megamind jump and it has an option for weird senses. Like detective vision from videogames. I figure I can get a lot or the more common stuff from other jumps and and wonder what super weird ones I can get that would be super useful. Like being able to detect holes in reality could be used to find teleportation users and such. >>133160 Well, I picked up technopath in Sky High and that seems basic to just force tech to become what you want.
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>I can harass Isekai settings I don't like by creating a fanfic version of their world with the "Puny God" cheat in Generic Isekai & turning the inhabitants of said world into pic related narrative weaponizing shitposters through bestowing my job system to them >The inhabitants live in the fanfic worlds can just treat it all as pure entertainment And just like that, the joke build I'm trying to finalize will become another full fledged chain
>>133145 Not really, he made it so younger people could get into the series and also properly give the Clone wars a proper explanation and his plan was Ashoka was going to die but he didn't kill her because of Filloni.
>>133168 Okay, that would be very useful. Just the seeing through illusions is great, but the rest makes it so much better.
>>133162 Argent, I knew you had dogshit taste, but I cannot believe your taste is this incredibly dogshit. Which Keisha cucked you nigga?
>>133171 Which is exactly why we currently have the population of disneywars supporting tools that don't actually like Star Wars and happily gobble any retcon as gospel that explains any and all flawed writing.
>>133173 He's a yardie, trust me he is RIGHT
>>133174 >happily gobble any retcon as gospel that explains any and all flawed writing. nta, but thats not unique to Disney. The original EU was all about that.
>>133158 Fair, at least you've escaped the curse of being obsessed with thick black women. That shit has ruined Jumpchain for me.
>>133175 Yeah, but the Yardies are usually the ones with the better women than men. Jamaican women are top tier, they just have the severe problem of tolerating Jamaican men.
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>>133174 >Which is exactly why we currently have the population of disneywars supporting tools that don't actually like Star Wars and happily gobble any retcon as gospel that explains any and all flawed writing. His only fault is selling the series, the rest of that was all Disney and even with EU they had plenty of stories that retconned each other
>>133178 Anons, I lived around them and dealt with them all the time, the only thing worse than Jamaicans are Hattians
>>133173 You don't live here so I don't expect you to understand, but when you have to listen to screeching slags literally go up in your face and threaten to assault you because you glanced at them kind of funny, whilst thry stink to high heaven but make it impossible for you to leave the 'conversation' (either following and forcing you to look at them or yanking you back so hard they nearly dislocate your goddamn shoulder) you quickly lose literally any interest in them and wonder why the fuck anyone wants to fuck these creatures. I've met maybe a handful of women here in well over two decades who were actually decent and didn't make me want to dive out a window to get away from them.
>>133176 Fuck no it wasn't. The Original EU had people shitting on retcons 24/7. When the Ones happened it was a shit storm, when the Vong happened it was a shit storm, and etc.... People still consider Anakin II's death to be pure authorial bullshit, as well as Mara Jade Skywalkers death too. With the current crowd if that shit happened they'd bust out whatever the fuck Karen Traviss said as an excuse to be the perfect explanation for why it isn't bad writing.
>>133174 >any retcon as gospel that explains any and all flawed writing You mean like the Maw Cluster that was used to explain why Han used a unit of distance instead of speed?
>>133183 I thought Han using a unit of distance instead of speed was just him thinking Obi-Wan and Luke were dumb enough to con?
The one good thing I'll say about the Disney wars era is that it got rid of the "Levels of" canon bullshit. Like is it so fucking hard to have guidelines and shit?
>>133184 Star Wars was a space opera. Parsecs just sounded cool.
>>133183 That was an elaboration retcon which aren't that bad. Currently we have shit like ships known for their speed being incapable of catching up to fucking MC90s, and "actually Ahsoka is the most important thing in the entire universe but her dumbass never shows up in any of the movies where her help was really needed". All of this ain't even mentioning the whole "oh yeah the empire genocided planets as a last ditch effort, and the New Republic still thought it was a good idea to demilitarize"(I actually don't hold this one as that bad, the NR always being retarded is funny), and lightsaber mood rings despite Vader walking around with a blue lightsaber until Palpatine gave him better fashion.
>>133185 Because the authors of Legends low-key wanted to usurp Star Wars from George at times. Just look at the way they shat on his entire stories original point by making Democracy impossible, stupid looking, and pathetic.
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Crimson Empire went so hard >>133187 >the NR always being retarded is funny), FACT CHECKED TRUE BY REAL IMPREIAL LOYALISTS >>133188 Don't listen to those lies, George was a real Imperial Patriot
I watched Force Awakens, Rogue one and both seasons of Andor. I am happy enough to never have looked further than that.
>>133187 I always find hilarious how Disney had the New Republic demilitarize because they couldn't think of new enemies except recycling the Empire again. oh yes the heroes are retarded so we can still have a empire x rebels story
>>133184 Not him, but as I recall that’s what the script said. I do remember that you can see Obi-Wan roll his eyes at the parsecs bit.
>>133190 You didn't miss absolutely nothing. I watched Rebels recently and didn't gain anything.
>>133181 This seems more like a speech about hating women in general than it is hating black women but in anycase that just sounds like you live in a shitty place and you're placing that blame on everyone when it should just be on those shitty people you've met.
Since we're on the star wars subject, i want to say the Jedi Initiate jump is finally finished. Thanks for anyone who helped with the feedback.
>>133153 Yeah. I also partial to some realism drama ones where, outside the sex god thing the futa's life kinda sucks. Like, "confess to your crush after losing your v-cards together, only to get 'I love your cock!' back at you", "ruin your relationship with all your bros because their girls keep falling on your dick and they AREN'T cucks", or "can't hold a steady job (due to fucking clients/coworkers) and has to live with hand-me-downs from your fuckbudies" kind of situations.
>>133159 I mean thats fair. But it also means I probably alreaddy have bullshit creation powers instead of just making one world, need to consider different isekai cheats now I think.
>>133191 Legends did it super often too, arguably to a worse degree because they literally made racism against Bothans technically justified. I think there's just a curse on the idea of a New Republic because authors will inevitably need an explanation as to why Grandmaster Luke Skywalker hasn't annihilated the entire remnant forces of the Empire with the Republic Navy at his side.
>>133185 >>133188 >>133189 >>133190 >>133191 >>133193 It really is baffling how they butchered every legacy character but Vader. Like dude is still a fucking badass. Even more based when they approved the two weeks game's AI the ability to bully retarded streamers. Sadly it's ability to drop slurs will be a missed feature
>>133194 Anon, I've been forced to travel to a lot of places in my country and it's been this way since I was a child. This isn't coming from inexperience or simple bad experiences, this is coming from seeing the same shit repeat time and time again no matter where I go here. I'm not even the only one telling you this either. The good ones are the exception to the rule and they're so rare that it's not worth dealing with all the rest to try searching for them. >>133197 Those all sound more interesting than most futa stories I'm aware of. Wouldn't read them, but still.
>>133201 Just sounds like you live in a shit country then.
>>133202 Yes. I believe I've brought that up when asked.
>>133199 TBF there should be a LOT of well entrenched remnant forces at that point, so it would take a long time to wipe tham all out if you even could with a newly established shaky government.
>>133184 It was supposed to be Han being full of shit but fans refused to accept it so they added in the Maw Cluster. >>133200 >spoiler what?
Is Kuzuki on any level a mage or is he just an entirely normal guy that's super good at martial arts and assassinating people?
>>133205 >what Fortnight has a Vader AI that ended up bullying streamers and for a time occasionally dropped some racist remarks.
>>133207 Amazing.
>>133195 Still got the New Jedi Order Era (replace the extra slash) and Squall Clan (Perk name for Dancer's Grace at the end not in bold) typos from >>132294 to smooth out.
>>133206 He's a top tier assassin with some kung fu bullshit going on but he's not a magus of any type no.
>>133206 No magic whatsoever, he was just trained to have a pretty much superhuman physique and use a technique that is extremly hard to counter, Medea then just uses magic on him to let his fists actually penetrate servants and a later retcon established that she further used reinforcement to increase his stats tenfold(but because he was already beyond peak human, the effect was much greater than even Medea anticipated9.
>>133204 Sure, but the NR quite literally sabotaged itself several times during this process while also shitting on the Jedi for no reason. The remnant stuff was very realistic, them not being gone by the time of the Vong was not, because at that point they would have started seriously hemorrhaging without the support of a galaxy wide empire and all the infighting.
>>133206 >Is Kuzuki on any level a mage or is he just an entirely normal guy that's super good at martial arts and assassinating people? He's a normal guy boosted by Medea to be servant tier. But what's normal for nasuland humans is way higher than IRL since Kirei was going 50kph and jumped 10 meteres into the sky in Heaven's feel without magecraft.
>>133138 How did you get Authorities without purchasing God Slaying Devil King or the Heretic God perk? There's a price of admission for that authority section that you apparently didn't pay.
>Argent is actually a super handsome Chad that causes women to go crazy but he's lacking the charisma perks necessary to slay This is my new headcanon.
>>133138 You do realize you need the Campione perk to access the Authority section, right?
>>133215 >>133217 NTA but I could've sworn Crulespace made a scenario for people who wanted to do it the hard way?
How likely do you guys think it would be to convince General Tullius to betray the Medes for a new Dragonborn Emperor? I can kinda guess that such a line of convincing loses its appeal when the dragonfires are no longer a thing, but I'm not sure if the sheer traditional weight of it would convince him or not.
>>133219 It would definitely be a major symbol for the Empire, but it's been hundreds of years since the Dragonfires went out and your own personal status as the Dragonborn in Skyrim is mostly only respected by the Nords of Skyrim and the Moth Priests.
Did anyone watch a movie called Tai Chi Master? I found it a pretty good movie, and i was planning to make a jump for it.
>>133045 >NuBee >NyankoAnon >Red >Gene >Blade >WoL >Pyscho half the time, the other half I can barley stand him >Ricrod an ironic like turned to genuine like I gotta tone down my parasocial tendencies but out of the few namefags I like who still post here at least occasionally I can't really decide who i'd want to fuse together since I like em individually well enough and for the ones who I am less of a "fan" of I guess while that make them more my speed that would in turn just make a namefag I like worse. If I had to i'd go with WoL and Blade since the mix of WoL's work ethic and Blades Futa love sounds like a fun mix.
>>133205 AI Vader got added to Fortnight and immediately spouted racist remarks and denied the existence of the sequel trilogy.
>>133218 That makes you a Campione and let's you earn further Authorities in setting but doesn't give you access to the purchase ones, if you go the scenario route you start with no authorities until you earn your first in the scenario.
>>133221 That the Jet Li and Michelle Yeoh one or the Jing Wu one?
>>133219 What's your Speech skill at?
>>133226 The jet li and michelle yeoh one.
>>133219 I get what they were going for with putting red hair in her pits/pubic hair but it does not look nice in execution.
Do you think the rebellion/revolt/revolution devil in chainsaw man would be like Luffy/Nika?
I am increasing the scale of the jump. Pray I do not increase it any further
>>133230 No, because Chainsaw Man adheres to vaguely real world events. Unless you can imagine Luffy yapping about how he thought the Russian Revolution, Pol Pot’s regime and the Great Leap Forwards were all the coolest things ever. >>133231 I advised you against this. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
>>133230 No, its going to be based on shit like the French or Haitian revolution, Rwandan Genocides, and the fall of Rhodesia
>>133231 Add in some cute dude oc companions and you can expand that jump to DC comic Collab levels for all I'd care.
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>>133230 I doubt a Rebellion Devil would be nearly so benevolent. If I understand it right, they'd be what people FEAR about all the rebellions and revolutions that've ever happened, made flesh. The breakdown of the social order, the breakdown of morality and culture. Iconoclasm, anti-intellectualism, apostasy, the destruction of anything old or traditional BECAUSE it is old or traditional. The defiance of even divine authority BECAUSE it is authority.
>>133231 Do it fag.
Which way Jumper?
>>133231 Do you need any help with ideas or anything? I haven't watched it in a while but I can toss suggestions at you if you need it.
>>133240 I'll take whatever anyone wants to give
>>132508 Ancients/Elders already have a Freebie that's a modest racial trait boost meant to model randos like Croissant who are way stronger than Forte are meant to be, without being so extreme that they're crazy legendary heroes. Combining that with 11th King would definitely make them equal (in raw stats) to a 200 Sarkaz without 11th King, and maybe not that much weaker than one with 11th King. That said, they'd be inferior to a 600 Sarkaz with the same purchases, but maybe around the same ballpark to an average one. Also, this is honestly getting into nonsense. This is kind of like trying to take something extremely fluid, abstract, and full of countless variables and circumstances, and trying to calcify it into raw numbers, which is difficult. >Here's hoping that ancients also have a eugenics perk. They have a Perk for boosting "offensive" racism, but I might be able to tack on some buffs to "defensive" racism too. >As a Aslan, can you say that you have Enter eternity from being related to the Lugalszargus somehow? Being an Aslan sure as shit won't give you the Perk, but if you take both you can easily decide that.
>>133227 25. >>133220 Damn, I was hoping he had a hidden character trait that made him a real empire cuck. Guess I'm gonna have to go with a full purge storyline for that Jump.
>>132651 >Drakengard >Halo Forerunners >Destiny the Darkness >Some of the Dual Monsters Jumps >DC Collab >Himenospia
>>133243 >25 You're gonna need a LOT higher to onvince Tullius.
>>133231 What, you adding Fate/Cero or something?
>>133240 No, it's just that I thought there were only gonna be 4 origins but there are now 6.
I wish we had a Naruto Jump that made the Storm games shenanigans canon. The animators for that game made the whole setting look 10x cooler.
>>133241 Literally just sheer obsession of Shirous I WANT THAT. Not being prettier or more charismatic, but just pure people wanting you because you're baeber. The teachers fake id. Sakura being vaguely meta aware this isn't her route. Abridgification perk to make everyone be slightly different but still mostly the same? Also similar perk to make it so that peoples relationships get scrambled, ie saber being an overprotective mom and not a gf. A perk based on Archer actually having knowledge of canon fsn, and a drawback where you're constantly thrown off because this isn't canon. Extremely sexy voice. Perk where anytime you don't know something someone will just randomly start explaining things.
>>133247 Meant for >>133246
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>>133248 I unironically think the ending of Storm 4 is better than the anime
>>133219 >>133243 Invest in Necromancy and bind the absolute shitload of draugrs in various Skyrim barrows and subjugate a number of dragons for extra firepower once you kill Alduin. If you need further legitimacy, bind Potema Septim as your queen or whatever.
>>133248 If they're different enough, you could make a dedicated Ninja Storm jump. Failing that, you could probably use a fanfic option.
>>133252 I agree with the rest of that, but not the Potema thing. I don't involve my Jumpers with shit tier waifus.
>>133251 Every part of the games is better except the open world filler. The Madara fight against hashirama in Storm is basically the best piece of Naruto media besides the fight between Obito and Kakashi.
>>133254 Queen doesn't necessarily mean waifu, you can use her as window dressing and or sock puppet for extra legitimacy.
>>133251 Seeing them shift between childhood and now is really cool, did the anime do that or was it Storm only?
>>133256 Alright anon, I'll engage in plagiarizing your idea. Thanks for the tips.
>>133257 Only at the beginning of the fight unfortunately in the anime
>>133248 Weren't the Ninja Storm games Kishimotos preferred adaptation?
>>133248 Ninja Storm Gai vs Madara is absolute peak
>>133242 I didn't mean equal to a higher cost sarkaz race with the same purcashes. I meant like, it to have an idea how high the boost from 11th king would be in regards to a average ancient or in general, since a 600cp tribe has a similar cost to the 11th perk by itself, so I assumed their base would be similar to what 11th would give to a free race. What I got from the perk by itself, or a 600 race by itself, is that it grants you less starting power than say, becoming a Emperor’s blade, but if you train hard enough, you can surpass them on stats. I remember someone mentioning that a wendigo was stronger than a Emperor’s blade. Something about taking a several Emperor’s blades to take down a village, while requiring only three wendigoes to do the same? I could've been having a schizophrenic episode that time, not too sure. >They have a Perk for boosting "offensive" racism, but I might be able to tack on some buffs to "defensive" racism too. Ah yes, my acenstral racism. Havent used that since the last kazdelian war. >Being an Aslan sure as shit won't give you the Perk, but if you take both you can easily decide that Yeah. I was just wondering how to explain that.
>>133261 I hear that a lot, but I genuinely can't find anything about him saying that anywhere.
>>133066 I'm treating it as vacation before starting the empire building arc next jump
>>133259 Kinda sad.
Is there a perk that will 'fix' any weird mental or personal quirks you have? Like I can't poop unless I'm naked and I'd wanna fix that if I did have a chain, especially in certain high-risk worlds where I'd need armor.
>>133248 >>133261 The Storm games pop off really fucking hard as far as dramatic moments and movement and stuff, but they're not the best adaptations mostly just because they cut out quite a bit of story. Like, that's the obvious thing to do when you're just playing along with a game, but it does leave a lot out if that's your only means of consuming it.
Any jump in particular you can point to as being good for starting a chain as a god of whatever? Like a god of light for example.
>>133249 Thanks for the suggestions
>>133269 Godbound and Mesopotamian myth
>>133269 GEH has a divinity/god origin iirc which can start you pretty low level as something of an entry level position while grabbing many of the desired themes..
>>133269 Genshin Impact and Tsuki Tsuki both had god options, IIRC?
>>133269 Black and White.
>>133267 Less Of The Lesser from Pact and Attitude from Power Rangers. The Greatest Trick from Marvel Magic or any other "you can always change" perk could probably do it too.
>>133269 Unironically Hercules. You can get quick Godhood without paying too much in terms of CP.
>>133275 Thank you.
>>133265 Really, I’m just surprised you didn’t companion Shantae herself.
>>133271 Sounds good. Though maybe I'll hold off Mesopotamia for a bit. >>133272 >GEH What is that? >>133273 >Genshin The Archons did have some serious oomph and style. Did the jump let us pick something other than the main elements? Tsuki Tsuki is pretty weak but I can still work with it. >>133274 Ah, now that's a blast from the past. Flinging people and having a concrete set of abilities. >>133276 We have that? Move over Apollo. Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
>>133279 Best girl, Also Paradox Jump when?
>>133279 It's a Blackshadow Jump
>>133279 Generic Erotic Horror's YJ's last Jump.
Five more, boys
>>133280 >Best girl Indeed my fellow of excellent taste. >when Isn't it still incomplete? >>133281 Which one? >>133282 Ah, I didn't think you could be a god there. Gonna have to look at it. Thank you.
>>133285 No problem.
>>133279 >The Archons did have some serious oomph and style. Did the jump let us pick something other than the main elements? The jump lets you be a god in general and has a toggle to start back during the Archon War, the five thousand year long war that reduced the gods from there being basically a weak god for every concept to only the seven most powerful gods reigning over each element. As the Archon War lasted literal millennia, the jump only lasts a single decade, and we know that gods back then were perfectly happy to have long alliances and friendships with other gods, you shouldn't have any trouble surviving and escaping with your divine powers.
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