>>74 >BLADE jumpmaking guide ...I should finish that. Or at least write a few more things to go in it. In other news, how would you guys feel about a pokemon randomizer gauntlet of some kind? I've stumbled across a specific 'game' where Crystal, Emerald, and Fire Red all get smashed together into one game with the doors randomized and I kind of want to do something with that.

>>84 Is this going to be for that specific "game" or some kind of Generic Pokemon Randomizer Gauntlet? Given who this is, I'm going to assume the former, but it won't hurt to have more information.

>>84 That seems oddly specific, but I'm curious how you would go about it.

>>85 I want to say for that specific game, but I'm open to making it a more general thing and having a drawback that just straight up dumps two or more regions into the chaos.

>>95 >but I'm open to making it a more general thing >Generic Pokemon Rando >BLADE is making a Generic This is unprecedented.

Hello. I'm planning on a Star Wars Rebels jump release for May the 4th, which is just about done. I'm considering making one or two smaller Star Wars jumps to release alongside it, since I still want to be jumpmaking but I'm not ready to move on to my next bigger project. If you want to suggest Star Wars jumps that are relatively short and easy to make, I'm not promising I will take them up, but you are more likely to get my attention now than at other times.

>>104 ...You know what, this is actually an excellent argument for me not to do that. >>86 For drawbacks? Very similarly to the rando drawbacks in link to the past. Not quite sure for perks, probably lots of things to help you deal with the chaos.

>>108 >>108 Angry birds star wars?

>>111 Hey BLADE, mind spreading word about this bunker on Discord so Shard and other regulars can visit?

>>113 Not likely, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

>>108 One of the LEGO Star Wars games/collections?

>>118 I'm not sure the best way to go about it, but I'll put it on the consideration list.

>>114 kk

>>108 Tbh, all the Star Wars content I want jumps for has jumps already. Battlefront II, KOTOR, OT.... A KOTOR dupe would be nice, but I doubt you'd consider it a small project. I don't think we ever got a "proper" prequel jump (albeit it's technically covered by Clone Wars).

>>125 I don't think a prequel jump is likely from me right now, but I'm curious how people think that should be handled. Just an TPM jump to add on to the existing jump, a TPM + AotC/RotS set up since there is more than a ten year gap between them, or all in one?

>>127 I think one for TPM and one for AotC/RotS would make the most sense. Though that reminds me, the PS2 adaptation of RotS had enough "OC"/EU elements that it IMO diverged significantly enough from the movie to warrant its own jump, so it could work as one of your "short" candidates maybe.

>>128 I'll put it on the list to look at.

Found some more "Guides to Jumpmaking" on SB. Take them or leave them. Though kayne at least was a /tg/ jumpmaker, iirc.

I've got three perklines left to fluff in Assassination Classroom. It'll probably be done tomorrow. Not really sure how the approval process should work. Only a small fraction of the /jc/ community knows about the bunker. Think I should just wait until 4chan comes back (or we get confirmation that it isn't coming back) to try and put it on the drive?

>>232 I'd say just go for it, honestly.

>Doors are fucked (mandatory) >+Doors aren't two directional, turning around sends you somewhere else >+Doors change every time you beat a boss fight >++Doors aren't guarenteed to be winable >Wild pokemon are shuffled around >+Pokemon have different movesets and abilities, or typing >Trainer pokemon a shuffled around >+Gym leaders/etc are of a random type >Tms, hms, and move tutors are randomized >Items found on the ground or items in shops are randomized >Gift pokemon and trades are randomized (including your starters) >Adds another region into the mix Am I missing any potential wackiness from this list?

>>232 It better have cute traps or I won't approve of it! Jokes aside, I'd post it here and wait for a week or so before trying to put it on the Drive if 4chan isn't back by then. >>235 Random MissingNos in tall grass?

>>232 Realistically, no jump ever gets rejected on /tg/ unless it's full of redditshit. So if you can restrain yourself and avoid making a Supermarket jump, you should be fine.

>>235 Have you thought about making it lewd. Because there's a lot more you could do with it if so.

>>237 Eh. I never played the games at the time that was hype, so I don't have any special attachment to that. >>242 In theory you could use the 'add another region' option to add one of the oc regions such as the Midara region from Pokemon Ecchi, or maybe not!arica from Blacked, or of course the Futa region from the Pokemon Futa jump. Outside of those, not really. What did you have in mind?

>>247 There's a lot of shit you could do. Random lewd traps. Random humanized/anthrofied Pokemon, random lewd rewards/penalties, etc.

>>232 >Think I should just wait until 4chan comes back There is nothing to suggest that 4chan will come back or that /tg/ won't be pruned since the site needs a complete overhaul or they will just be hit again. Even with a complete overhaul it is likely they will be taken down. The dox also doesn't help matters.

>>250 Traps could work in a mystery dungeon type thing, but this is supposed to be just the mainline games. Penalties and rewards has potential as a normal drawback, though.

>>235 >Doors aren't guarenteed to be winable So what exactly would the fix be for that? Teleportation?

>>253 Stop dooming, jesus. As the April Fool's event proved /tg/ is in the upper 50% of active boards.

>>272 In the context of the gauntlet? There may not be one, that’s the point of it. People and places can be totally inaccessible, or can trap you somewhere if you aren’t prepared. Death warping, escape ropes, and of course fly can help get you out of places, but that relies on you having them.

Man, my motivation really took a nosedive since 4chan went down. It's not just a matter of attention, since I could probably go to Reddit and SB to get about as many eyes on my Jumps, if not more. I'm working on my 99th Jump, and just last week I felt like I had it in me to make 200 Jumps before I retired. Now I'm questioning if I even have enough motivation for one more Jump. I'm someone who naturally doesn't deal well with sudden changes, so I'm really hoping this is just a temporary funk.

>>372 I felt somewhat similar at first, Gene. But it probably impacted me less in my case purely because I already had several alternatives in the event the site went down or when the mods were being powertripping faggots so it hasn't been much of a change.

And since this is a thread for posting WIPs, I may as well post some of mine. I'll even throw in some of the ones I had no intention of posting on /tg/ for a variety of reasons.

>>383 Nice! I'm a bit sad there's no 7th Prince WIP in the bunch, that was one you were making right? or is that just my senility talking again? but I'll look forward to giving these more of a read soon.

>>392 I have been re-reading 7th Prince actually - both because I love the series, prep for the jump, and because season 2 is coming. Or at least, I was until 4chan blew up.

>>401 Well I hope you still do make it at some point. With luck 4chan will be back soon, but if I'm being honest, I've probably already posted almost as much here as I did in /jc/ this year so far. This bunker is comfy and has a sane mod. If I knew that some more of my favorite jumpmakers like Red would find this place, I think I'd almost prefer we stay here.

>>235 >+0cp - Doors (Mandatory) >One of the fundamental premises of this particular challenge is that all of the doors in the Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn regions have been mixed up. You could walk out the front door of your house and end up in a volcano. You could walk out the back door and be underwater. If you jumped out the window, you might find yourself in a nearby Pokemart. Or facing down the Champion, who is likely very surprised to see someone with no badges in their domain. By default this only applies to the standard set of doors and occasional teleporter that you might find in a Pokemon game, but if you specifically want crawling out the window to be an option then those can be included in this. >+100 cp - And Doors And Doors >But, we can make things worse. See, those doors? They may be random, but they’re fixed. They don't change. If you walk through one and find yourself somewhere you don’t want to be, 90% of the time you can backtrack. Well, if you want to suffer a bit more, we can change that. You have two options, and can take this twice if you wish. The first is that the doors are not equivalent - walking out the front door of your house may leave you in a volcano, but turning around and walking back through that same door won’t take you back home. Instead, you may end up in the Battle Frontier. Secondly, the doors may change. Every time you beat a major battle such as a Gym Leader, E4 member, the Admin or Leader of a villainous team, or of course the Champion, the doors will shuffle themselves and you’ll need to reset your mental map. >+200 cp - And Doors And Doors And Doors >Throughout all of this, there is a fundamental assumption that has been in play. The randomization of the doors is not malicious. There is a clear path forward, you simply don’t know what it is and have functionally no hints as to what it might be other than to stumble forwards blindly. This is no longer true. The connections between the doors are truly random, and may be unsolvable. Closed loops will menace you, and esoteric means such as one way doors and cutscene warps will be a constant problem as well as your only salvation.

>>235 >+100 cp - Wild Pokemon >The Pokemon available to you are now mixed up as well. You may find Pokemon from the desert area of Hoenn inside Johto’s national park, several Pokemon that are only available while diving in the middle of Viridian Forest, and perhaps a patch of tall grass in Kanto filled with nothing but Feebas. Their relative level of power is the only thing that won’t be random, as it will be appropriate for the area you find them in - though, the order in which you reach those areas means it might as well be. >+100 cp / +300 cp - Delta Pokemon >In addition to where you find them, you’ll find that the typing of those Pokemon have also been shuffled around, which may or may not result in some very strange combinations. For +100 cp, these typings will be consistent and repeatable - while a Zigzagoon might be Fighting type and evolve into Linoone, a Water/Grass type, all Zigzagoons and Linoones will be that will. For +300 cp every individual instance of the Pokemon that you catch and fight will be randomized as well. You could have a team of six copies of the same Pokemon and have no type overlaps. >+100 cp / +300 cp - Wild Fakemon >But we can do better than just that. On top of where you find them being a complete toss up, the moves and abilities those Pokemon have access to are also dependent upon a roll of the dice. For +100 cp, take their entire list of moves they learn through level up, egg moves, tms and hms, and shuffle them all up. Enjoy trying to make a decent setup from whatever comes out. For 300 cp, do this for every individual instance of that Pokemon you catch. Or, if you prefer, you can instead simply put every move ever into the bag and hope something good comes out. In any of those cases, abilities are already that way. You can’t really be random with only three or four options, after all.

>>235 >+100 cp / +200 cp - Trainers >Turns out you’re not the only one struggling to put together a decent team these days - while most trainers have a tendency to have at least one or two Pokemon from the nearby routes, it isn’t a hard rule - and now, it isn’t a rule in any sense of the word. While mandatory battles that would block your progression will be ‘fair-ish’ with this, expect any kind of optional battle to be batshit insane, such as Youngster Joey and his top percentage of Mewtwos. That said, Gym Leaders and such will still have Pokemon that are mostly of their correct type. If you took both Delta Pokemon and Wild Fakemon, this drawback is worth +200 simply because of the sheer level of chaos it causes you to have to deal with. >+100 cp - Gym Leaders >So, remember what I just said about Gym Leaders at least having Pokemon of their type? Well, that’s not true anymore. They’ll still have Pokemon who are consistently of a type, just not the one you’d probably expect. Stop me if you’ve heard this one - there’s this guy in Hoenn named Wattson. He runs a power plant. Uses electric fences in his Gym. He’s the grass type Gym Leader. You get the idea, right? This also applies to Team Aqua and Magma, who will primarily use Pokemon of a new type, as well as Elite Four members. And also Champions, but not all of them have a dedicated type to begin with. Those ones will probably be especially painful. And that's these about half done.

>>417 I'm mostly only hoping 4chan comes back because so many of my usual threads and haunts are gonna be permanently gone or massively crippled otherwise. /jc/ is lucky that it's so diffused and naturally spread out that multiple alternatives exist that can link back to each other to funnel people to one spot. Plenty of my other favored generals don't have this luxury.

>>437 Same. There'a a lot of niche hobby stuff that I don't think I would be able to find anywhere else besides 4chan to talk about. But for Jumpchain specifically this bunker is pretty great so far.

>>435 Looking good to me, Blade. Those Door drawbacks look particularly fun.

>>417 Ngl, I am probably enjoying myself here far more than I ever had on /tg/. It's amazing what a different it makes when all the people here act like they actually want to be here.

>>456 My trip keeps swapping back and forth. Gonna try to stick to this one.

>>372 I feel like you really need to find a source of motivation that's more consistent and not dependent on your environment. Like sure, this is a hobby and it's fine if you decide to stop one day, but the way you present it, it's like you want to keep making jumps, but only when that specific community is there for you. Even though 4chan will definitely be back, it's still not that great to tie all of your motivation to it like that.

>>455 Honestly, just watching a playthrough of this thing is pretty entertaining. You just end up everywhere. Anyways, six drawbacks left and then I should probably start looking into what kind of perks I'm actually going to put in this thing.

>>459 To be fair, I do have a track record for confusing "I'm in a bit of a weird mood right now and will probably be fine in the morning" with "I have experienced a profound revolution that will shape my perspective for years to come". It's possible I'm jumping to conclusions and all I really need is a day or two to adjust. I'm also thinking of working more on my Chain, that usually helps me get the juices flowing. Anyway, it's getting late, which is making it even harder to think clearly, so I'm gonna head off for now.

>>462 Huh, does anyone else get to see deleted posts by clicking on them? It's certainly an interesting feature.

>>472 Okay, nevermind, now it's gone. Apparently they only stay active if you don't reload the page.

>>472 >>474 shhh

Alright, I might as well check to see if this works.

>>235 >+100 cp - Item Placement >You will find that the locations of items are now included in the chaotic mess that is this world. This included both items that can be found out and about in the wild, purchased from shops, or gifted to you. A Pokemart may sell rare candies, and Gym Leaders may hand out repels after you defeat them. And wild Pokemon who occasionally hold a berry as you catch them will instead be holding… A Pokeball. If you head by one of the Game Corners - if you can FIND one of the Game Corners - you may see them offering Charmander, Totodile, and Treecko for game coins… and then not actually selling those coins. Those are actually at the Pokemart, but they’re one of those things they only sell after you have three badges. >+100 cp - Fake Items >There are certain Pokemon that highly resemble a Pokeball. Most of the time, their presence is fairly rare. Voltorb is only found within electrical plants, both in Kanto and in Hoenn. Foongus also exists, but isn’t your problem unless you take a specific other drawback. In any event, you’ll be finding Voltorbs quite a bit more often, as they have been included in the randomization of items that can be found laying around on the ground. Any item you might see hidden behind a small tree now has good odds to be replaced by a potential battle. Good luck figuring out which is which before actually trying to grab it though. >+100 cp - Twice Crowned >By default, the gauntlet is considered finished when you defeat eight Gym Leaders, four members of the Elite Four, and a Champion. These don’t need to be from the same region. You could beat three leaders from each region, the Elite Four from Kanto, and then fight Lance again as the Johto Champion and that would be fine. However, we can make things worse for you. Each time you take this drawback increases the requirements. Eight, four, and one becomes sixteen, eight, and two. Or even twenty four, twelve, and three - which is to say, all of the major battles available in the three regions. Strictly speaking, you may only take this twice, as there are only three regions. With that said, there is another option that can change that. >+100 cp / +200 - Gotta Catch Them All >And then we have the other main goal of playing a game of Pokemon. Not only do you have to do the above listed things, but you also have to actually complete the Pokedex. Depending on how things have been going for you, this will either be fairly easy or nearly impossible. Then again, there are always one or two Pokemon in each game that are a right and proper pain in the ass to get your hands on, so I suppose that’s no different now. If Four Region Randomizer is taken twice or more, this becomes worth +200 cp simply because of all the extra work you’ll have to do. >+200 cp - Four Region Randomizer >While three is the default number due to how the game this is based on was originally made, it doesn’t need to stay that way. You may not be satisfied with just three regions. If you’re willing to make things ever bigger and more confusing, then we can just sort of… keep going. Sinnoh, Unova, Kalos, Alola, Galar, and Paldea. Each time you take this, the next game is thrown into the mix. Fair warning, this is going to get very big very fast. If you take this all the way to Paldea, then you’ll find that game has the least warps due to the shift towards open world exploration. Which should make things mildly easier. >+100 cp - Not Canon But Cool >…Look. You’re playing nine pokemon games at the same time, and you still want more? You are an absolute glutton for punishment. But sure. With this option you can start throwing Pokemon Fangames into the mix. Want to screw around in the Tandor region? Or maybe Torren, or Reborn? Or hell, what about Midara? If you want to suffer that badly then far be it for me to stop you. As long as there’s a normal pokemon league present, then that’s good enough for me. >+100 cp - Gift Pokemon >Even if you make it so that the locations, natures, and moves of the wild Pokemon are random, there still exists a way to get specific mon. After all, you were handed one of them right at the start - fire, water, or grass. Sound familiar? With this, however, that is no longer true. Any Pokemon you might find or be given in any way other than battle will be shuffled away as though subject to the base levels of Delta Pokemon and Wild Fakemon. Or worse, if you took those higher levels. Admittedly that might not matter, as you’re usually unlikely to get more than one of those gifted Pokemon, but with the randomization it does need to be said. >+100 cp - Manual Moves >Once more I rip away a potential bastion of sanity from you. Hidden Machines, Technical Machines, and the various Move Tutors are now switched around. Strictly speaking there are still three whole sets for you to choose from, a fairly large number, but the actual moves that are held within them… Yeah, no. Enjoy being handed a Technical Machine for Softboiled, a move that is only teachable to one single Pokemon line. Hopefully the rest of the ones you stumble across are more useful. Or you could always take the drawback that scrambles the kind of moves pokemon can learn. And the remainder of the drawbacks for this. Accounting for the drawbacks that can be taken multiple times, there is 4000 cp worth of drawbacks here. So I'm gonna need to write at least that much worth of perks and items. Preferably more. Fun.

>>577 Works fine. I don't know the setting enough to give much feedback, but as far as I can tell what you've got so far looks good. >>616 You'll have to try and come up with a lot of high cost options to make up for it I guess.

>>622 Feel free to make some suggestions, I get the feeling I’m going to need some extra ideas for this.

>>623 I've never actually played any randomizers, so I don't think I can be of much help. Something to make monstergirls and suchlike by fusing characters with local fauna/other characters at the start of a new Jump, like in your image there, their would tempt me if that fits.

>>626 …man, I’m happy to write a perk that turns all the pokemon into cute girls if you’re willing to put up with the drawbacks I’ve posted in order to pay for it. It won’t help you at ALL, but as long as you want it enough to suffer from it then fine I guess?

>>631 The path of horny often requires sacrifice...

>>632 >100 cp - Excellent Memory >With everthing you ever knew about Pokemong being mutilated like this, it will probably be pretty hard to keep things straight. So I'd like to offer you this to help out with that. Simply put, you have a good memory for things in general and are especially good at directions. Left at the Pokemon Center, through the third door in Meteor falls, through the left door to Goldenrod Radio, up the stairs in the Route 11/12 Gate, walk down from the Viridian Forest Gate down to Pallet Town and enter Oaks Lab... and that's the nearest Pokemon Center. It sounds complex, but all things considered its not that bad. Well, no, it's kind of a mess, but at least its a mess you have an easy time memorizing. >100 cp - Fun From A Stone >With all of the things that can potentially go wrong or even be wrong, it can seem pretty difficult to get much of anything done. Imagine walking through your first door into a cave, hopping a one way ledge, and then discovering you're now trapped in victory road. Yeah. That would be pretty unpleasant. Maybe even enough to make you ragequit. Well, thankfully you're made of sterner stuff than that. You can take massive losses in stride, and maybe even think that the absurdity of what you've just died from to be fairly funny. It's an interesting mix between highly stubborn and able to just go with the flow, and I hope it helps. >200 cp - Pokefan >So, you've played Pokemon before right? I'd hate to think of what it would be like to just throw someone into this mess and they have no idea what a Pokemon is or what's going on. That would just be mean. So even if you didn't have any experience with this world beforehand, I'm going to go ahead and give that to you. A game or three played through, some time spent watching challenge videos on the internet, maybe a couple of times that you got sucked into going on a wiki walk. You're not a hardcore fan of the series, but you should know enough to get by well enough. >200 cp - A Good Feeling >Walking face first into a high level area that you can't back out of is pretty unlucky. Kinda funny, but not actually useful. Thankfully that sort of thing is fairly rare, at least for you. At the end of the day you don't need to be smart or strong to win this game. They'll help some, sure, but the way things math out, you could genuinely walk through every door in the three regions before finding everything you need to win. Which would suck, but is possible. Luckily for you, you're the one thing that can prevent that - you're lucky. You've got a vague sense that can be used to tell whether something is a good idea or not for your current goals. It's nothing so useful as a compass or a map, but it should help out. >400 cp - Horny Nutjob >Fair warning up front and out of the way first thing - this won't help you at all. It is in fact nothing but a drain on your resources. All of the Pokemon are now cute girls. You can choose how precisely this manifests, whether they're all just vaguely humanoid while still being animalistic, proper monstergirls, or just look like regular people in cute outfits that may or may not actually be part of their skin. And if all of them are cute girls or this is equal opportunity for girls who want cute pokeboys. You can make this choice again at the start of each jump for how it will effect the local monster population, if there is one and if you want them to fall under the effects of this. Hope this was worth it to you. This last one is for you.

>>634 >This last one is for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sckkNuhrg9k

>>383 Posting some more, since I didn't get the chance to last night.

>>634 >100 cp - Just A Game >By my default assumption, you're going to wake up in Pallet Town, be given a Pokemon and have to deliver a parcel for Professor Oak, and then everything is going to go wrong. As in, you will be physically present within the world of Pokemon. Likely in a somewhat game-ified version of the world to account for the various logic - and lack of it - that would be needed to make this challenge actually challenging. But if you'd rather not run around like a chicken with your head cut off looking for the first Gym Leader, you can instead opt to actually play the randomizer this is based on. You'll still have to deal with all of the challenges and drawbacks you took, but at the very least playing a game is simpler than traversing three nations. >200 cp - Warp Home >During your time here, you may get stuck in places you'd really rather not be. Or maybe you'll just get straight up lost. If your memory is even slightly faulty there's good odds you could end up somewhere totally unintended. Well, I have at least part of a solution for you. From here on out, you can now teleport back to your home, which as of right now is assumed to be in Pallet Town. If nothing else, being able to consistently get your bearings with this should help out immensely. Also, I assume your mom will be happy for you to visit her. Most Pokemon protagonists don't do that, you know. >400 cp - From Crystal To Dust >Something I haven't touched on as of yet is the fact that there is some variance in the three regions. Specifically, this is a mix up of Emerald, Fire Red, and Crystal Dust. Not Crystal. Additionally, Kanto is only present once, not twice as should be implied by the presence of a Johto game. Depending on your perspective, this is either a feature or a bug, and it is something you now have control over. Would you rather play Fire Red, Gold, and Ruby? Or Leaf Green, Silver, and Emerald? Where possible, you now have the option of choosing which version of a specific worlds canon you will be ending up in. Given the presence of a fan made remake in that mix, this has the potential to include outright non-canon variations of those worlds. For now, though, it's mostly a matter of version differences and which legendary you would prefer to try and catch. >600 cp - Hard Reset >What, is being able to warp back to your home not enough for you? ...Well, I suppose it makes sense. Certain choices could screw you over if you aren't careful, so even with that power you could still end up in a dead end. If that's the case, then you might be interested in this. Before, the only real way to fail the gauntlet is to give up. Even if it's unwinnable, as long as you keep pushing it won't just randomly end. You probably won't win, but that's a you thing. Or, you could buy some extra lives. In the event that you do somehow end up in an unwinnable situation you can now hard reset the entire gauntlet. You'll still be stuck with your choices and build, but your progress, and all the randomizations, will be reset. Hopefully that's enough to give you a fighting chance. >600 cp - No Such Thing As Random >In a computer, random numbers don't really exist. In pokemon especially - everything you see that you think is random is instead a series of numbers listed in sequence. Mind you, there are over four billion options on the low end, but if you were to, say, flip coins four billion and change times, you would eventually notice a repeating loop. Every time the game calls for another randomization, be it the move a Pokemon chooses, whether it hits, the damage it does, whether a side effect occurs, or what it's nature, ability, and stats look like. Which is to say quite a few calls can be made in a very short period of time. That said, you are now a mathematical genius. Now that you know the world is running on a loop, if you're here for long enough, you should be able to start predicting, or even manipulating it. And I think that's the perks done. I'd like a third 400/600, but I have no ideas for that. Now I just need a second 600 cp item and I should be mostly lined up.

Was discussing this with someone else, capstone perk where you can doom people to the hell that is this gauntlet, yes or no? Alternatively, just force them to deal with drawbacks you've taken previously? It would be nice to have a perk like that from a jump other than the scat jump, but that's a bit far off the point for me

>>760 Sounds pretty neat, probably should lock it to only one drawback you have taken, you can swap at will. Unless you don't really care about balance for that perk, anyway.

>>768 Okay, so apparently the "Spoiler All" button doesn't work on text, or spoilers from my text don't show.

>>768 It's a bit of a perspective thing. 'doom them to deal with the gauntlet' has the potential to be a dozen drawbacks, plus a smidge more for throwing them into the gauntlet itself. By comparison, making someone deal with four or five drawbacks doesn't sound so bad. With the limit being you must have taken that drawback yourself, that seems fair-ish to me.

>>771 If you wanted to make that hell perk a little less meta, you could just randomize THEIR doors instead. Open the closet to Kim Jong Un' s office.

>>773 Now that is an amusing alternative.

>>622 >Works fine. I don't know the setting enough to give much feedback, but as far as I can tell what you've got so far looks good. Well, that's good to know. Thanks for the appraisal nonetheless. Back to the Stellaris update mines it is for me, I think. Lest there's someone willing to give me suggestions for: The Poppy War, Fourth Wing, Bladed Fury, Project Nimbus and Banner of The Maid.

>>881 The Poppy War Poppies

>>885 There will be perks, items and drawbacks for the cultivation, harvesting, smuggling, distribution and selling of opium, alongside usage of it for your shamanic abilities, yes.

Might as well toss my WIP on the pile. I haven't touched this in a while, but since I have the game downloaded I've been playing that alittle bit and chipping away at this when inspiration strikes.

>>1006 Sweet! I've been wanting a better Brutal Legend Jump! Make sure you offer us a super metal hotrod.

>>1024 That will definitely be on the list of items. Honestly I was TENTATIVELY thinking of putting together some sort of vehicle customizer, but I've never really done any sort of customization table before so I'm gonna want to consult with more senior jumpmakers about "how the fuck do I do thing" before I attempt it.

>>1006 >Nyanko-Anon!!OxrGEvoGaQo Oh the irony of this. >in future jumps it’d take at least a couple thousand fans for a single revival. So like, are the fans sacrificed up to the gods of metal, or do you just need to a progressively increasing amount of more fans at your concerts. Not much else to comment on so far, as I'm not too familiar with Brutal Legend and it looks pretty good otherwise.

>>1025 > I was TENTATIVELY thinking of putting together some sort of vehicle customizer That would be AWESOME! But I 100% get it if it turns out to be too much work to actually do. If Red shows up I'd try asking her, she's made some of the best customizer tables in Jumpchain IMHO.

>>1029 >So like, are the fans sacrificed up to the gods of metal, or do you just need to a progressively increasing amount of more fans at your concerts. Mostly the former. Fans in-game are basically just sorta...like, ghosts that shoot up from geisers in the ground, and you spend them like an energy resource to summon up new units. Think of them like a resource node in an RTS; capture the node, let the resources build up, spend them to get more stuff or upgrade your units, defend your node from enemy capture. >Wait, Brutal Legend is an RTS? Yes, yes it is.

>>1032 Ah, makes sense then. I did in fact notice the drawback of the name: >Wait A Sec, It’s An RTS? I vaguely feel like it ought to be changed up a tad, but I don't really have actionable feedback on it so, I left it that.

>>1035 A lot of things in the WIP are extremely tentative. You can tell because it's not even halfway filled out in terms of skeleton and the version number isn't even past 0.2. And that's not even mentioning that I'm still in the process of playing the game to familiarize myself with it (and also enjoy what I can only describe as Jack Black's most awesome heavy metal fever dreams).

>>1037 Fair's fair in that regard then. Have fun replaying the game and good luck with the jump.

>>1044 Interesting to learn, but probably better shared in the general thread?

>>235 >100 cp - Prima Game Guide >Alright, now I know what you’re going to say - this seems useless. And, to an extent, it is. After all, what’s the point in buying a map when all the roads lead to different places than what they say they do? Well, there’s more in these books than just maps, because you now have official guidebooks to the first three regions. Strictly speaking Crystal Dust doesn’t have one as it isn’t official in the first place, so instead that one is just an annotated copy of Crystal's book. Item locations, Pokemon appearance rates and just where they appear, daily or weekly events, and various other things can be found within their pages. A great resource for those who don’t have the games memorized… and who didn’t take the drawbacks that would invalidate this information. Maybe if you meet Lorelei, you can get her to sign them? >100 cp - Basic Item Kit >Your ability to get your hands on various items isn’t entirely gone, though it may be severely impaired depending on certain choices. To that end, I’d like to hand you a small starter kit of sorts. Five pokedolls, five escape ropes, and five revives. It probably sounds like a bit much, but honestly given the situations you can potentially end up in, this is the bare minimum for a go-bag to get yourself out of the trouble you inevitably find yourself in. And, because it does represent getting you out of trouble, you will get a new set of them every other month. Not the fastest, but if you need more than that… Well, just these wouldn’t be enough in that case. >100 cp - Comfy Bed >So, on a Pokemon journey, the chances of a trainer going back home at basically any point is just about zero, or so low as to not be worth mentioning. It’s so very rarely worth it to do so after all. With that said, you may desire to go back there just to not have to deal with all this madness for a short while. And while you’re home, you’ll be sleeping in your bed instead of just wherever or in the back of a Pokemon center. So I’m gonna make it a stupidly comfy bed that you can’t have nightmares while sleeping in. It also has a mild healing effect that causes your Pokemon team to be restored whenever you sleep in it. Does that make the most sense? No, but it does so anyways. >200 cp - This Game >What’s that? You somehow haven’t had enough of the local nonsense and want to take it with you after you leave? Well alright then, I can oblige. This is a setup to play the gauntlet as an actual game, potentially with up to all nine regions and several fanmade regions thrown into the mix, with options for every drawback listed above in the settings menu and a few others besides. Such as whether or not the various regional gimmicks exist and are functional outside of their default region. For the sake of simplicity, there’s a slight downgrade and all of this is presented in a pseudo-gba format, but the option to play it in newer game engines and art styles does exist. >200 cp - Your Pokedex >So, you’ve been to another Pokemon jump before, right? Most people don’t start delving into this kind of thing until they’ve played the original at least ten or twenty times and the predictability of it all is just starting to get boring. If you haven’t, then this might be useless for you. But if you have… For starters, you’ll receive a Pokedex with accurate information on the local species, including any randomizations they’ve been through, for any Pokemon you’ve caught previously. Secondly? You can have up to six of those Pokemon as your team for the Gauntlet. They’ll be reset down to the level you met them at, and will lack any perks or other alterations much like how your own powers are currently missing, but being able to pick and choose your team should be worthwhile. If you haven’t been to any other Pokemon jump, you may instead assemble a team from gift Pokemon, such as the three starters you have access to and any other Pokemon that would normally be handed out for free. >200 cp - Three Moms And One Dad >So, a weird little thing. Because the three games are being squished together into one, you’re technically the protagonist of all three. Which means not only do you live in Pallet Town with your mom, you also live in New Bark town with your mom. And in Littleroot Town with your mom. Are you noticing a trend yet? In any event, congratulations, you now have three houses in three different regions. Possibly three moms as well. Don’t question how that works, they love you anyways. As for their practical use, any form of rest and recuperation you do here is enhanced to be much more effective, such as the use of the Comfy Bed. One of them will also send you a small handful of berries on a regular basis, which could be useful. Anybody want to suggest some 600 cp worthy items for this thing? I'm still missing one of those, and honestly I'm not feeling too good about my existing one either rn.

>>644 >This jump is built upon Scenarios. As such, for your 10 years, your powers, one-ups, Warehouse, items and perks will be sealed or restrained until such a time as you leave this jump, with the exclusion of whatever Body Mod you had. To make your start a little easier, you are given 1000 CP to start with. >*Due to its very nature and the rulings inherent to it, this jump is *not* built around the assumption that you may take it as a first jump. This is not a Gauntlet, this is not a setting where you will be handheld or given Perks to wipe your ass or to use the setting to wipe your ass instead. This jump assumes that you are willing to take what is essentially an ultra-hard challenge mode without the usual safety blankets afforded to you by the Chain; more than that, it assumes that you are willing to engage with these imposed limitations with an understanding of what that may entail based on where you are in your chain and are secure in the belief that you can survive with your usual set of powers locked away. If you are uncomfortable with any of the above, the idea of a jump where there are very real consequences for doing stupid shit or making mistakes with little room to course-correct or you do not think you are capable of survival without your usual arsenal of perks and items, then this is not a jump for you. Ignore it and use literally any other jump. It's amazing that you always have to do some super speshul "b-but my jump should break all the rules of Jumpchain" shit almost every time you post. Fortunately for you, a lot of the opposition you received in the previous community probably WAS shitposting, but God is this an obnoxious habit of yours.

>>1307 Quite literally the only reason I bothered posting these jumps here is because I felt I could because it's less likely for people to throw a shitfit even if I otherwise had no intention of getting the on the drive. These jumps in specific are meant purely for my entertainment and personal use, and I made it clear I had no desire to share them in the 4chan thread. If my honesty is still too much for you, then you can take your bitching about how I do things for my personal entertainment and blow it out your ass. Two jumps out of the nearly 20 WIPs I have doing some shit that I feel works better for them specifically may piss you off, but that's not my problem.

>>1310 I'm not going to break down your door or anything. But we've had standardized rules since the Quicksilver era for a reason. Jumpchain is not only a community, but a FORMAT of CYOAs. You're allowed to make whatever you want, but no one else would just randomly make something that is neither a jump nor a gauntlet, save for the ancient shitposter and plagiarist known as BabylonAnon. You are PERMITTED. You CAN, though perhaps not SHOULD.

Updated Enigma of Fear. Finished the 300 CP perks for the Cult of Fear and started on the Items. I've tied the Cursed Object(s) to a specific Scenario but I'm ambivalent to my current ideas and they could change depending on how I'm feeling or if I get different suggestions down the line. >>1314 Good to know. Don't really care because, again, these are for me and aren't going to get posted in the 4chan thread ever - but good to know. If you care about Quicksilver's rules or stuff from his era so much that you only bring them up in very specific contexts and nowhere else, then go find and tell him what a great job you're doing. I'm sure he'll appreciate it. If that's all and you don't have anything actually constructive to say, then I'll stop here because thread rule #1 is pretty clear on the basic decorum here.

>>1316 >so much that you only bring them up in very specific contexts and nowhere else I bring them up whenever they're relevant, though. Like when people talk about stacking dozens of appearance perks, I bring up Diminishing Returns. When people talk about changing jump duration and follower recruitment options, I bring up how he used 500-year long jumps and armies following you as absurd hypotheticals. I've brought up how he thought absolute immortality shouldn't be allowed and how people should be allowed to lose Jumpchain. I frequently remind people of the entertainment clause. I point out that he believed a Naruto jump shouldn't allow you to be as strong as the Konoha 11. Don't make assumptions.

>>1316 >>1319 Anyway, I'll agree to table the conversation to avoid any further drama.

Alright, this is more or less done. I'd like a second capstone item, and quite frankly to have triple lines for both perks and items, but I have more things to buy than I have drawbacks so I'm going to call that good enough. If you're going to jump this, I suggest actually trying to play the randomizer, its fun.

>>1339 I'd suggest posting finished jumps in the main thread, too.

>>1339 I'm not much of a gauntlet guy but thanks for the jump.

Jumpmakers! What jumps do you have in the works? What are you looking forward to finishing? What jumps would you like to make? What jumps would you like others to make?

>>1813 There are a few potential vampire manga I was thinking might be fun to make a Jump for this Halloween, but I need to reread the source materials before I decide if I'm going to attempt one of them, or not. As it's been ages since I've read any of them, and I need to make sure that they still hold up for me, and have enough cool shit to put into a Jump.

>>1871 Sweet. Are these more on the seinen variety of vampire manga or more on the lighter side?

>>1885 One of the two I'm considering is seinen, while the other one is probably more on the shonen side if still rather dark in places. I'd just flat out name them, but I don't want to disappoint anyone if I decided against making something that they wanted after rereading everything. Even in the best case scenario I'd probably only make one or the other.

>>1887 Vampire Bund or Call of the Night?

>>1900 Well you called the seinen. Yes, I do have a thing for nudist vampire lolis. No, the other option has nothing to do with nudist vampire lolis I never heard of Call of the Night, I'll have to look it up.

I said Kirby Right Back At Ya! would be my next Jump, but I'm starting to think it might be better to do the general Kirby game jump I initially had in mind first. I'll probably make the RBAY jump shortly after, but it can't even compare to the level of whimsy in the games, which is precisely what I'm in the mood for right now. However, I'm still pretty intimidated by the sheer scope of what I'm proposing. I don't have the foggiest idea how to even start organizing this.

>>1911 If anything, my concerns over whether making this one Jump is the right move have gotten even worse. I just discovered SB has fully imaged Jumps for several individual Kirby games. I haven't checked whether they're any good, but it's proof that solo Kirby Jumps aren't as impossible as I first thought.

>>1913 The only Kirby game I ever played was the one on the 64 back in the day, so I can't really offer any advice, but you've made Jumps out of some very hard settings to get right before, so I have faith that you can do Kirby justice.

>>1913 >>1917 Eh, fair enough. I've had this debate with myself and anons alike several times. Maybe that's just a sign that I'm not going to find a "perfect" solution, and just go with my gut in making the solo Jump.

My chronic overthinking aside, anyone have any suggestions/requests for this general Kirby Jump? I remember some anons requesting Friend Hearts and the option to be Void Termina, but if there were other requests from /tg/ I can't quite recall them.

>>1941 Meta Knight's cool sword, cape, and ship?

>>1941 A cuteness perk.

>>1813 Skybourne is what I'm currently working on, but its stalled out a bit as I try to figure out what perks and items to add, especially the ones for Racial Backgrounds. On the plus side, I've got my plans for the formatting and images pretty well settled

>>1941 Art skills/power Soundtrack Magic doorways Cooking skills perk Megaengineering Warp Star or some other space ship Some sort of property purchase. [spoiler] I really wanna take some of the places from Crystal Shard

>>1983 >[spoiler] Just a heads up, like in Discord you can spoiler something here by just adding ** to the start and end of what you want to spoiler.

>>1911 Then again... I'm still watching Right Back At Ya!, making it fresher in my mind. Whatever, I'll start making plans for both. Whichever I decide to release first, the other won't be far behind.

>>1909 The ending for Call of the Night blows, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

>>1941 CAKE, UNLIMITED CAKE

>>2040 Well shit. I hate it when that happens. Thanks for the heads up anon.

>>1941 well, there are a lot of things i want. friend hearts and void termina option, yes. but also like, galacta knight and morpho knight options. magolor and marx and sectonia options. the various wish granting stuffs(the star rod, the clockwork star, star dream), the crown, our own lor starcutter.

>>1813 >What jumps do you have in the works? What are you looking forward to finishing? Besides everything I've already mentioned here >>881 , I'm still working on an update for Samurai of Hyuga (more to polish the jump in general than to account for Book 5, since that didn't end up being too significant. Though Book 6 and the accompanying final batch of sidestories is coming soonish enough), along with EVO: The Shinka-Ron and Batman: The Brave and The Bold. >What jumps would you like to make? Anbennar: A Fantasy Total Conversion Mod for EU4, Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch, Luftrausers, Nuclear Option, Dawn: Aerowar, Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries of Honjo and probably a few more things >What jumps would you like others to make? Path of Martial Arts.

>>2205 Nameless, I noticed that one of the redditors started a jump on PtN.

Any suggestions for games like Kirby or Katamari in the same vein of "weird but unapologetically whimsical". Those without Jumps are ideal, but tbh this is only indirectly JC related. Like, maybe one day I'll attempt a Jump, but I just like checking out games similar to whatever I'm working on. It keeps me in the right headspace without risking burnout by hyper-focused on nothing but my Jump all day.

>>2332 Not sure if it counts as weird, but Graffiti Kingdom is very much whimsical and I loved the game to bits back in the day. It also has no jump

>>2332 Lil Gator Game, just a kid going on an adventure in a "relatively" mundane setting. How did he make a camera from scraps of cardboard and paper?

>>2351 I actually like the first game more for the whimsical factor. But I'd have to replay it and even though I do have a copy I just have no time anymore.

>>2362 >first game There was more than one?

>>2363 The English game was actually the second game. The first game was Japanese only, and completely disconnected in terms of story. I prefer it over the second in part because I liked the story, and also because I never had enough time to properly play Graffiti Kingdom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Pengel:_The_Quest_for_Color

>>2363 >>2365 Whoops it wasn't Japanese only, but I guess I just never saw the English version

>>2365 >>2366 Crazy, I only knew about and played Graffiti Kingdom. Guess I'll add that one to the backlog

>>2367 One of these days I'll replay Magic Pengel and think of how a jump could be made for it. Sometime in the next decade.

Huh, I don't think we really had a plan in-place for when the general thread locked.

>>2365 I fucking adore the artstyle of the ending cutscene

>>2332 How about A Hat In Time? It's a pretty cute platformer game

If one was considering a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (Anime) jump, would watching the dub and including a toggle for localization be sufficient?

Alright I'm gonna do the Quirk Table final update with the 9 and 10 Quirks, and the edits to past ones. Been a long time coming but I know I need to do it at some point. I don't need suggestions for more stuff to smoosh onto the table because I've amassed a surplus and will be struggling to work through it. Just came in to ask people if they thought any other existing Quirks from the table needed to be adjusted up, down, or altered in some way to feel better.

Anyone have any suggestions for what origins to have in my Kirby Game Jump? Obvious ones are Hero (Kirby), Royal (DDD / Sectonia), Invader (Dark Matter), but that still leaves a number of character types unaccounted for. Also not sure what to do with the "art sorcerer" archetype that pops up in a surprising amount of these games. It kind of skims the line between an origin and an ability.

>>3158 >Anyone have any suggestions for what origins to have in my Kirby Game Jump? Little Friend (Ribbon, Elfilin, Marx, etc) Scientist (Haltman/Susie and Ancients-Tech type stuff) Ally (Bandana Dee, Art girl, and similar friends that have helped kirbo)

So, is anyone else here familiar with Spheres of Power stuff? Currently working on the Skybourne jump, and I'm still lacking in ideas for some of the perks and items (especially the 600 CP perks and the like). If there's anything you'd particularly like in such a jump, please speak up. Hopefully it can get my creative juices flowing. Also please feel free to ask any questions you have.

Okay, version two of this thing. >Added Perk/Item discounts >Added No Experience >Added Fast Forward >Added Perfect Pokeball >Added Hints >Added Forced Warp >Added Options Menu >Added Missingno. The Rayquaza Full triple perk and itemlines... though I might trash Options Menu if it proves to be too weird.

>>3182 Spheres of Power? Don't know what that is

>>3191 It started as a 3rd party Magic System for Pathfinder 1e published by Drop Dead Studios. Eventually after getting much support they expanded it, added some more spheres, then used the framework to also create similar systems for Martials and Skill-based characters as well. They also eventually published a version of the magic system for 5e as well I'm personally a very big fan of the system, and am currently making a jump for their published campaign setting as essentially an excuse to get the system into a chain. Also, the best part is that the whole system can be found for free on their dedicated wiki. http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/

>>2365 >>2367 Fun fact: >https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/References_to_Touhou#Magic_Pengel_and_Graffiti_Kingdom Touhou's creator had a minor role creating these games, and Reimu got cameo appearances.

>>2797 Power Lottery's third paragraph still refers to itself as Quirk Marriage. So does Mutation in the main jump but that can be interpreted as a reference to the in-setting practice. Naval Laser should be Navel Laser. While you've okay'd being the bee before, I think Queen Bee could probably do with being rewritten to reflect the reveal it makes you a bodyjacker. I really don't think Explosion merits being a Tier 2 (I'm inclined to feel the same of Zero Gravity desu, but that has the canon killshot of just splatting people) while Double should probably be higher than Tier 1. Brick seems kinda bad. I think that's at least partially the result of powercreep and anime biology ramping stats up even for people who shouldn't have super [blank] but it feels worse to take than Muscular's quirk (or a combo involving it) if you just want to be a brick since the listed feats are pretty lowkey. >>3158 I have Wanderer, Dreamlander, Knight, Friend, and Nightmare (latter two being paid origins with themed-but-custom powers) in mine but I still have a ton of games to play through. Art magic is/was probably just going to be a capstone in Wanderer.

>>3262 Oh? I didn't know you were working on a Kirby Jump.

>>3277 Ye. I got fixated on a really specific line in mind for a hypothetical Void Termina perk and the intrusive thoughts won.

>>3282 Personally, I have no idea how to handle the Void Termina option. As big of a deal as he is in a metaphysical sense, it's hard to say how that actually manifests. From a gameplay perspective, he really isn't that different from past final bosses. That aside, are you still planning to make it? I realize it's probably awkward for me to ask this, but if so I don't mind backing down and switching focus to Right Back At Ya!.

>>3284 Technically you only really beat him with the help of Kirby's Star Allies(TM) instead of solo, with up to a few guys, or Meta Knight's ride. Don't let me stop you, brometheus. I got 10 other WIPs and will probably pick up more as I finish them instead of focusing on completing what's left.

>>3312 I'm not saying Void Termina is weak by any means, I just kind of wish he did something more "destroyer of worlds"-y during his boss fight than grow wings and fire lasers. It'd be much easier to make a unique perk/species option for them. >Don't let me stop you, brometheus. I got 10 other WIPs and will probably pick up more as I finish them instead of focusing on completing what's left. That's good to hear.

>>3318 >It'd be much easier to make a unique perk/species option for them. I can post mine, if you want?

>>2797 Hatchery still sucks

>>3343 It might help, but I think I'm just making a big deal over nothing. Honestly starting to think I'm spending too much time in this board. I just keep looking for excuses to talk when I have nothing really to say.

>>3364 Aight: https://files.catbox.moe/m3kc7q.txt For what it's worth I got the /jc/ brain long enough to make progress on DoDonPachi's fleet builder because of the convo.

Sorry for getting back to ya'll way late, I forgot the auto refresh just fails sometimes so I legit just didn't notice anything being posted here. >>3262 >Power Lottery's third paragraph still refers to itself as Quirk Marriage. So does Mutation in the main jump but that can be interpreted as a reference to the in-setting practice. I'll have to go back and do some corrections and touch ups it seems. >Naval Laser should be Navel Laser. Fixed. >While you've okay'd being the bee before, I think Queen Bee could probably do with being rewritten to reflect the reveal it makes you a bodyjacker. Do you think people generally want that, to like match it to the canon form of the Quirk? I'm okay with doing it, just curious. >I really don't think Explosion merits being a Tier 2 I dunno, Bakugo doesn't seem to have gone through any sort of crazy training arc but is basically top of the class in destructive output with the thing. I'm inclined to keep it where it is if only because it might be a bit tricky to restructure things around it. >Double should probably be higher than Tier 1. Slated for Tier 3, yeah. >Brick seems kinda bad. I think that's at least partially the result of powercreep and anime biology ramping stats up even for people who shouldn't have super [blank] but it feels worse to take than Muscular's quirk (or a combo involving it) if you just want to be a brick since the listed feats are pretty lowkey. I can do buffs on phrasing and stuff to make it appear more worthy of the tier. I think it's a bit boring, but some people are really into being a raw lump of stats, so I'd rather not yoink it entirely. Thanks, I'm gonna go take some notes on this stuff. >>3351 Which parts do you think need to be looked at most?

>>3262 >>3516 I might actually leave Queen Bee. I was trying to look into how the body jacking stuff worked, and they just like, didn't explain it since it wasn't relevant to the plot.

As I stated in the main thread, I'm considering a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (Anime) jump. It will be a while for I can commit to completing it, but I'm posting here if anyone has any suggestions or requests.

>>3571 >As I stated in the main thread, I'm considering a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (Anime) jump. It will be a while for I can commit to completing it, but I'm posting here if anyone has any suggestions or requests. I see someone is stepping into my territory. You and I need to have a discussion. Preferably without shirts on.

>>3585 Hello Ric

>>3364 Y'know, while maybe it's true that I'm spending too much of my day here, but I'm starting to feel the bigger problem is that I'm sticking around until long after I usually go to bed. I'm well aware that I get moody and melodramatic when I'm sleepy, but I can never seem to remember that simple fact when I actually am sleepy. Maybe I need to start setting a bedtime alarm. Point is, feeling much better after a full night's sleep.

>>3571 Regrettably, my knowledge of YGO begins and ends with the first few arcs of YGO Abridged and what little I've been able to pick up via osmosis. My requests are all pretty obvious stuff: crazy hair perk, Kaiba's wealth and ability to spread his hyper-fixations like a virus, heart of the cards, shadow games, Millennium items, abridged drawback, etc. I do have some questions though. For starters, how will you be handling the Shadow Realm stuff? Since that's something exclusive to the 4Kids dub. Also, I know that the anime and manga deviate substantially after the first arc. Think there's enough difference for a separate manga Jump down the line (either by you or someone else) or will you just be adding a 0cp drawback to pick which continuity you're going to?

>>3660 >My requests are all pretty obvious stuff: crazy hair perk, Kaiba's wealth and ability to spread his hyper-fixations like a virus, heart of the cards, shadow games, Millennium items, abridged drawback, etc. Noted. >For starters, how will you be handling the Shadow Realm stuff? Since that's something exclusive to the 4Kids dub. I haven't decided yet, but there will at least be a toggle for with you are sub or dub. >Think there's enough difference for a separate manga Jump down the line (either by you or someone else) or will you just be adding a 0cp drawback to pick which continuity you're going to? I do think so.

>>1006 Hey Nyanko! Can you put in a Metalocalypse continuity toggle? https://youtu.be/Wj7fQq8vN8M?si=jYnu8_Krg_VXr4Tl

Going to post this in the main thread as well, but I've started work on the item section for this. Not quite sure if I'm going to offer the Perpetual Engine itself for something like 800/900 - 1000 CP or if I might make it a scenario reward instead. Or if I should save the scenario reward for something bigger, like creating your own micro-Perimeter or something.

How do I center text in Google Docs for a title?

>>3865 Are you talking about text or an image? Because text is just involves the "align & indent" function. Images are slightly more involved.

>>3867 Either would be nice to know. I'm popping a cherry here. I used to use whatever Apple's default was.

>>3870 >Either would be nice to know. I'm popping a cherry here. I used to use whatever Apple's default was. nta but I'll break it don simple for you Look at the top of the program and click Format ->Alignment and Spacing->Center

>>3872 I'll get back to ya, champ. Thanks.

>>3870 The align function should be in the toolbar. Just make sure the line/paragraph you want to center is highlighted, or just make sure your cursor is somewhere inside it. As for images, by default they're just treated the same as regular text, and centering them should work the same way. However, you can alter how text interacts with an image when you click on it. This gives you more freedom, but you'll have to center it manually, or futz around with more advanced image options which you shouldn't need to worry about in most situations.

>>3872 >>3874 I will be honest, I'm on mobile and this is all Dutch to me. I'm already half done and so I won't stop, but I might just literally count the space for the illusion of the same effect. There's a reason I never learned how to do image Jumps. Thanks a bunch.

>>3897 https://sheetsformarketers.com/how-to-center-text-in-google-docs/ Image jumps are something different from text formatting.

>>3951 I shall bookmark this and get back to you. Thank you. Likely goodnight.

Poking at expanding Lewdmage farther. So far today I've added a cheap Repair spell, an expensive Awaken spell, and an expansion to Locate. Any requests or particular ideas?

>>3789 Not sure what the perpetual engine does, but from what I've heard, having your own micro-perimeter would be cool.

>>3994 A scrying spell that could be used to view and target people within the same or different universes would be nice. Probably would need some way to designate a target, which the Locate spell could do.

>>3995 As the name would imply, the Perpetual Engine is a source of infinite energy that was designed as a necessary step in the prophecy of the Unhaunted One. This is done through the use of petrified Ooze, which can keep something running in perpetuity, and since the goal is to repeat infinity, infinite energy is required by necessity - the more energy, the more it is repeated.

>>3994 You wrote the new description for Charm in the first person instead of the second person. Also, it seems to be a lot more powerful than all the other 50cp spells, and everything new you added is something you can do with Alter Attitude

>>2332 Of these, the only ones I can wholly recommend are those marked with an asterisk. Mostly because the rest are mediocre, don't quite meet your criteria, or I just don't remember/know enough about them (a lot of games like this have plot twists or tonal shifts you wouldn't see until much later). Or they're just kind of odd to rank under these criteria (games like Binding of Isaac, for example, have a "cutesy" artstyle but deal in "darker" themes). Also, with the exception of Starfy and Gimmick, very few of them are "like Kirby" except being weird and/or whimsical. (NW) = not weird (NH) = not whimsical >Confirmed Weird and Whimsical *Anachronox *Armikrog Darkened Skye Epic Mickey Evil Twin: Cyprien’s Chronicles *Judero *The Legendary Starfy My Friend Pedro *The Neverhood *Super Daryl Deluxe Zeno Clash (+Clash: Artifacts of Chaos) *Where the Water Tastes Like Wine >haven't played, but seem to fit the criteria Arto The Cat Machine CRUDE by Next Game Level (unreleased) (NH??) DAEMON MASQUERADE Demon Turf Dreamwild Eastern Mind Escape From Lavender Island The Eternal Cylinder Fragrance Point *Gimmick by City Connection *Gurumin Hypnospace Outlaw Inkulinati The Inner World – A 2D-Point’n’Click Adventure *Jazzpunk (NW??) Jack Move *Maize Mask of the Rose Merchant of the Skies Omno Paradigm by Jacob Janerka Paradise Killer Splatter by Rat King Collective Verne: the Shape of Fantasy >one of: not weird (NW) or not whimsical (NH)

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(NW) Battalion Wars (NH) Brutal Orchestra (NH) Dap (NH) Forgotton Anne (NW) Giants: Citizen Kabuto (NW) Guacamelee (NH) Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass (NH) Minute of Islands (NW??) Voidtrain

Working on an update for Hylics, primarily incorporating content from Absent Moon. Absent Moon, for those of you who don't know, is a Hylics song cycle/album covering the events between Hylics 2 and 3. I've attached the version of the jump currently on DriveAnon's drive. If anyone has something they'd like changed from the existing jump or added from Hylics 1, 2, or Absent Moon, I'll consider trying to fit it into the update. Otherwise, here's the plan: >expand with "keystone" double perklines >split Knight into two origins, one based on Dedusmuln, and one based on Pongorma >revise options from the original jump based on requests (if applicable) >figure out how to deal with the imaging; it's possible I'll just release this as a supplement/DLC- we'll see See link below or the second attached PDF for current brainstorming/update progress. If no one has any requests, then I'll just continue to fill this out: https://drive.proton.me/urls/GXCRC4C5XC#5mFLsTaWmMZR Here's a link to Absent Moon itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2maJJtEf-g&list=PLjS2ZOuRnocTY9wzSrUGXXjO999WtZP_u&index=2

>>4043 >[200] Scry: For 5 mana, you can scry on a distant location that you are aware of. This spell functionally extends your line of sight, allowing you to snipe distant targets with your other spells. >>4046 Thanks for catching that and I agree with your assessment. I've cut Charm and adjusted the description of Alter Attitude to make it clear that it can be used to adjust the target's personal connections.

>>4140 >I've cut Charm Changed my mind, just adjusted it closer to its original incarnation.

I'm here with crappy placeholdersthat need to be replaced by the work of someone competent

>>4140 >[200] Scry: For 5 mana, you can scry on a distant location that you are aware of. This spell functionally extends your line of sight, allowing you to snipe distant targets with your other spells. Thanks. >Apprentice >allowing you to selectively share whatever other benefits of this document that you’ve unlocked with them. Does this mean an Apprentice can only learn the spells you’ve bought?

>>4197 Please don't post your toddlercon or scat jump here. Apologies for snipping the rest of the attached media, 8chan is being a bit twitchy right now. >>4201 Aye, Apprentice is a perkshare option for whatever you've picked up from Lewdmage.

>>4204 >Aye, Apprentice is a perkshare option for whatever you've picked up from Lewdmage. That limits them quite a bit, but I understand the logic, if your Apprentices could take whatever spells they wanted you could just make a bunch of them and have them take the spells you can’t yet afford.

>>4205 >>4204 Also, new spell ideas: Create Pocket Dimension. For a lesser amount of mana you can make a smaller one that stays with you, basically a storage dimension that caps out at the size of a large room. For a larger amount of mana you can make one that’s several acres in size and can be expanded further with additional castings, but it’s anchored in place and you can only enter and exit there (unless you’ve got Planeswalk, of course). Time Warp. Choose a target or target an area (or a whole pocket dimension, if you’ve got one) to alter the flow of time by up to X10 in either direction. Useful for getting that project done, spending some quality time with a waifu, or getting through unskippable cutscenes. Full time travel would be neat, but that might be beyond the scope of what you want to do.

>>4218 Oh yeah, the larger pocket dimension should contain terrain of the caster’s choosing.

>>4218 I'm spinning off the idea of a smaller pocket dimension into a hammerspace spell, and I just got the idea of someone shoving that and Bolt onto an Enchanted object to create a magical junkjet.

>>4230 >I'm spinning off the idea of a smaller pocket dimension into a hammerspace spell Makes sense, a large pocket dimension is a clear 400 while hammerspace would be more in the 100 to 200 range. >and I just got the idea of someone shoving that and Bolt onto an Enchanted object to create a magical junkjet. Or you could combine Bolt and Gate to an Enchanted item to make a version of the Wormhole Fulton Rocket from Metal Gear Solid V. Also that reminds me, does using the power of an Enchanted item cost mana?

Even though I have a few good ideas for this general Kirby Jump, I'm still concerned about future-proofing. Frankly, that's the only real gripe I had with the general Jump we currently have. It's perfectly serviceable, it just stops too early. I'll be in the exact same situation if we get another mainline game that doesn't feel as self-contained as Lost World. I found a Reddit post that actually breaks up the different "eras" of Kirby in a way I like. How would people feel about me breaking up the Jumps this way? >Retro Era (Kirby's Dreamland - Kirby 64) >Experimental Era (Tilt n' Tumble - Mass Attack (and somehow Rainbow Curse too)) >Return Era (Return to Dreamland - Star Allies) This will lead to a little redundancy, but I think the fact that it took me this long to even start on a skeleton is proof enough that I was getting overwhelmed by trying to cover everything at once.

>>4235 Nope. Enchanted objects are free to use.

>>4237 Neat.

>>4241 >[400] Timewarp: For 10 mana, you can accelerate or decelerate the flow of time in a target area by up to 10 times. This can also be applied to an individual target. >[400] Demiplane: For 10 mana, you can create a demiplane with up to 40,000 square meters of area and up to 30 kilometers of vertical space. You are free to define how this demiplane manifests, though it needs to have largely normal spacetime and your choice is set once you make it. Some weirdness is to be expected, like having the boundaries of the plane connect to one another or simulated gravity as though your plane was a slice of Earth. You can affect the whole of your demiplane with your spells that affect a target area if you want, you can have multiple demiplanes, your demiplanes are persistent between jumps and may allow for carrying stowaways, you always know the “coordinates” of your demiplanes, and you may manifest magical keys tied to these demiplanes which can be shoved into doors or doorways to open access to them. >Alternatively, you can expand the area of an existing demiplane by up to 40,000 square meters by casting this spell inside it. This also gives you a chance to redefine the interior of the demiplane. >[200] Hammerspace: For 5 mana, you can create a pocket plane with an interior volume of 500 cubic meters. You can only have 1 hammerspace, but it has a number of useful features. >It is inaccessible to unauthorized users >It keeps the things stored in it in stasis. >You can instantly store creatures and objects in your hammerspace, provided you have space, the target isn’t resisting, and it is in your reach. >You can instantly retrieve anything stowed in your hammerspace, provided there’s somewhere nearby that it can fit. >You can manifest a magical key tied to this hammerspace which, when shoved into a door or doorway, connects it to the interior of your hammerspace. >With the exception of it needing to be an interior space with normal spacetime, the interior of your hammerspace is yours to customize at will.

>>4236 I don't think it's worth worrying about future proofing, especially if you intend to still be active and make jumps years, even decades down the line. Make a jump for the section that you're actually interested in, make something that you enjoy, and leave the rest for later when you actually have something done. How you choose to break it up is something that needs to make sense to you. Given that there are already other Kirby jumps, it's not that big of an issue.

>>4252 Looks good. Funny thing, I was thinking about using Apprentice and the body alteration spells to turn some willing people into Touhou expies, and while I was writing up the general idea of the Demiplane spell it hit me that with enough time it could be used to create a Gensokyo.

>>4236 Redundancy is fine, especially considering how large the series is. I mean, look at Castlevania, BLADE wants to make a jump for pretty much every game in it, and trying to remove redundancy would just fuck over the quality of the jump.

Might be AWOL for a few days. I feel like I just had a brain blast about how I could handle this Kirby Jump. It's not actually so mind-blowing of an idea that I need to keep it secret, but so far every time I've publicly announced my plans for this Jump, I talk myself out of it in a matter of days, if not hours.

>>4371 Even if this idea falls through, it'd probably help to distance myself from any real or imagined expectations that might be adding extra pressure.

>>4377 Would Raid Shadow Legends also happen to have a gacha system of some kind and daily rewards for playing? >Generic Xianxia >Gacha Time Functionally the Gacha system works in much the same way as the Sign-in System, only manifesting in a different way. The user can accumulate points over time by certain actions or quests, and then spend these points to spin a wheel of fortune. Whatever that wheel lands on will be awarded to you. Multiple spins at once will boost your chances of getting something better. It's a stereotypical gacha. The things you can receive from this range from items, to techniques, and even cultivation power. Occasionally a limited time event might appear that would even allow you to summon a specific 'hero', one fully loyal to you. >Sign-In System >This is one of the most common cheats that you may find among xianxia protagonists. It is as potent as it is simple. Based on certain triggers, whether that be a time, place, or both, you are able to ‘sign-in’ and gain benefits. The trigger could take the form of signing in once a day, or it could only happen when you enter a new place. The benefits that one can gain from these sign-ins also vary greatly. They can be anything from quantitative items such as swords or pills, to innate traits such as bloodlines and physiques, to even something as simple as rewarding years of pure cultivation. What is universal to all of these is the idea that certain benchmark sign-ins will provide far greater benefits, such as on the 1000th sign-in or signing in at a Saint’s temple.

>>4252 I'm a bit annoyed that I didn't think to suggest the Hammerspace spell. It works so well with the Interface option Any chance for an option to upgrade the size of the hammerspace with multiple castings, like with the Demiplane spell?

>>4385 >Would Raid Shadow Legends also happen to have a gacha system of some kind and daily rewards for playing? It does, don't ask me how I know this.

>>4451 Added. >Casting this spell again allows you to expand the internal volume of your Hammerspace by 500 cubic meters.

So close, so far. Morpheus, take me...

>>4385 >Would Raid Shadow Legends also happen to have a gacha system of some kind and daily rewards for playing? Yes. Multiple even, with the main gacha being soulshards to summon warriors. Though the lore doesn't explain why you can get the same warrior multiple times. I'm splitting that into a perk that allows making the soulshards like a goddess had in the lore and gathering followers, and an item/follower option to buy a bunch of shard and get alot of the named heroes as followers. Also did my post get deleted? Cause I can see you quoting it but not the post itself, but your quote number isn't crossed out.

>>4505 Not him, but being able to disable the stasis effect could be useful. You could send people into your Hammerspace and keep a gate to a Demiplane in there. >>4513 >Yes. Multiple even, with the main gacha being soulshards to summon warriors. There you are. Stick in a +0 CP drawback to turn the thing into a xianxia. >Also did my post get deleted? Cause I can see you quoting it but not the post itself, but your quote number isn't crossed out. This site behaves weirdly. Try reloading the page and see if that fixes it.

>>4534 >Stick in a +0 CP drawback to turn the thing into a xianxia. Nah, it's a funny coincidence I wanted to share, but not enough to make into the jump. >This site behaves weirdly. Try reloading the page and see if that fixes it. Tried, but it doesn't appear. Weird.

>>4538 >Nah, it's a funny coincidence I wanted to share, but not enough to make into the jump. Fair enough.

Okay finished a pair of perks. But I've been messing with them for so long I'm not sure if they still make sense. If anyone can take a gander at them and see if they actually explain what they mean, I would appreciate it. And,yes,the effects are supposed to be the same, you're just deciding if you get them with a warrior buildor a mage build. They're general perks, and jumper get one first tier for free. Warrior - 200 CP per tier, must buy previous tiers before buying the higher ones. Tier 1 - There are many warriors around but you are one of rare skill, you are strong, agile and tough, and skilled enough that you can easily rise in fame if you join an army or fight in the arena. Also, in this world of high magic even warriors can add some magic to their attacks, or to other acts like a taunt or rallying cry. You can create two or three actions with a special effect, such as sending shockwaves to hit multiple enemies; gaining a bit of speed to strike an enemy twice in the time you'd normally do a single attack; doing an attack that puts a weak impairment or debuff on an enemy or has a small chance of putting a stronger debuff; doin an attack while buffing yourself or an ally; adding elemental damage or poison to a physical attack; increasing your chance to do a lucky strike that deals critical damage. If you choose only two special actions you can also make one passive ability such as having a chance of dispelling one debuff on yourself every few seconds; dealing more damage against enemies with certain debuffs; once every few minutes being able to automatically send a small healing spell to an ally who would be knocked out or dead; automatically counterattacking when hit with an attack, once every few minutes. Tier 2 - Your skill at arms is the stuff of sagas and epics, you are capable of defeating normal warriors by the dozen, and you could even kill great beasts like enormous lions or bears by yourself. The effects and damage of the abilities you made in the first tier are improved. You can choose to create another special action or passive or gain a general boost to your physical abilities. Examples of actions of this level can inflict more powerful debuffs; apply two debuffs at the same time; hit multiple enemies and debuff them at the same time; can heal or bless multiple allies at the same time; do a powerful heal and buff someone at the same time; do an attack that deals extra damage proportional to the how tough and healthy the enemy is. Passives at this level can be an immediate healing and counterattack when being hit with a critical hit; getting a temporary boost of power when nearby allies are defeated or for each enemy killed; near immunity to a few debuffs; getting a strength boost for every buff you apply on allies; getting a strength boost for every debuff you place on an enemy; get a large boost to damage when attacking from stealth; getting a large damage boost when attacking someone suffering from certain debuffs. Tier 3 - You are a legend in the making, capable of taking down soldiers by the score, turning a battle just by defeating most of an enemy arm by yourself, and you can defeat giants and dragons by yourself on skill alone. The effects and damage of the abilities you picked in the other tiers are improved. You can choose to create another special action or passive or gain a general boost to your physical abilities. Special actions at this level can heal all allies and attack all enemies at the same time; give several powerful buffs to one person at once; do damage and give several powerful debuffs to an enemy; ressurect recently dead allies; dispel the buffs on an enemy and deal damage based on how many debuffs were dispelled; attack an enemy four or five times in the blink of an eye; attack twice with each having a chance of debuff the enemy; attack multiple enemies several times; self buff before attacking an enemy; do an ataack that ignores all magical defenses. Passive abilities at this level include regeneration; automatically casting ressurrection if an ally would die and you have the ability ready; automatically casting a powerful healing ability and a buff on yourself if you would die, then attacking an enemy; getting a small stacking buff everytime allies get hit; near immunity to one debuff and get a small buff whenever someone tries to use that debuff on you; a small chance of automatically dodging a hit; a good chance of automatically blocking an attack that would hit a nearby ally; automatically deal damage to attacking enemies; reflect part of the damage back to the attacker. Mage - 200 CP per tier, must buy previous tiers before buying the higher ones. Tier 1 - Whether you are a tribal shaman or a scholarly wizard, you have gained the rare ability to cast actual magic. You have at your disposal several useful spells, including a few powerful combat spells you can rely on. These are usually damage spells, but can also be defensive or healing spells. You can create two or three spells that also have a special effect besides damage, shielding or healing, such as sending shockwaves to hit multiple enemies; gaining a bit of speed to strike an enemy twice in the time you'd normally do a single attack; doing an attack that puts a weak impairment or debuff on an enemy or has a small chance of putting a stronger debuff; doin an attack while buffing yourself or an ally; adding elemental damage or poison to a physical attack; increasing your chance to do a lucky strike that deals critical damage. If you choose only two special actions you can also make one passive ability such as having a chance of dispelling one debuff on yourself every few seconds; dealing more damage against enemies with certain debuffs; once every few minutes being able to automatically send a small healing spell to an ally who would be knocked out or dead; automatically counterattacking when hit with an attack, once every few minutes. Tier 2 - Your magical potency the stuff of sagas and epics, you can be considered a true archmage or high shaman, with many powerful spells at your call. The effects of the spells you made in the first tier are improved. You can choose to create another spell or passive or gain a general boost to your physical abilities. Examples of spells at this level can inflict more powerful debuffs; apply two debuffs at the same time; hit multiple enemies and debuff them at the same time; can heal or bless multiple allies at the same time; do a powerful heal and buff someone at the same time; do an attack that deals extra damage proportional to the how tough and healthy the enemy is. Passives at this level can be an immediate healing and counterattack when being hit with a critical hit; getting a temporary boost of power when nearby allies are defeated or for each enemy killed; near immunity to a few debuffs; getting a strength boost for every buff you apply on allies; getting a strength boost for every debuff you place on an enemy; get a large boost to damage when attacking from stealth; getting a large damage boost when attacking someone suffering from certain debuffs. Tier 3 - You are a legendary master of the arcane arts or of spiritual powers, capable of affecting entire battlefields with your spells, and challenging even the mightiest demons and fae in pure magic. The effects and damage of the abilities you picked in the other tiers are improved. You can choose to create another spell or passive or gain a general boost to your physical abilities. Magic at this level can heal all allies and attack all enemies at the same time; give several powerful buffs to one person at once; do damage and give several powerful debuffs to an enemy; ressurect recently dead allies; dispel the buffs on an enemy and deal damage based on how many debuffs were dispelled; attack an enemy four or five times in the blink of an eye; attack twice with each having a chance of debuff the enemy; attack multiple enemies several times; self buff before attacking an enemy; do an ataack that ignores all magical defenses. Passive abilities at this level include regeneration; automatically casting ressurrection if an ally would die and you have the ability ready; automatically casting a powerful healing ability and a buff on yourself if you would die, then attacking an enemy; getting a small stacking buff everytime allies get hit; near immunity to one debuff and get a small buff whenever someone tries to use that debuff on you; a small chance of automatically dodging a hit; a good chance of automatically blocking an attack that would hit a nearby ally; automatically deal damage to attacking enemies; reflect part of the damage back to the attacker.

>>4555 Seems straightforward to me. First tier is being a professional, second tier is being an expert, third tier is being the sort of person who’s deeds are the stuff of legends.

>>4558 But what about the part about making your own special attacks/combat spells? Spent entirely too much time picking good examples for each level, but now I'm not sure if the perks explain it properly.

>>4561 This might be a situation where less is more. Send the full list of examples to the notes and let the mage side, for example, just run with a fluffed out version of ‘skilled mage, renowned mage, legendary mage’ and trust that the reader will get the general idea.

>>4562 So, like: Tier 1 - There are many warriors around but you are one of rare skill, you are strong, agile and tough, and skilled enough that you can easily rise in fame if you join an army or fight in the arena. Also, in this world of high magic even warriors can add some magic to their attacks, or to other acts like a taunt or rallying cry. You can create two or three actions with a special effect. If you choose only two special actions you can also make one passive ability. For examples of effects and passives check the notes. I'm gonna go to sleep, thanks bro.

>>4564 Exactly. Give a general feel for what you would be capable of in universe at each level and you should have a decent sized set of perks, and the notes are available for getting into the details.

My hands hurt. Only just realized I was doing 30-40 descriptions a day besides the imaging and formatting. I'm taking a break for a day or two. I'm not complaining about the workload, just bitching. It'd be easier if I was just adding instead of rewriting a bunch of shit. My fault. Still taking a break.

I said I'd take some days off, but I quickly ran into a question I feel like I need an outside opinion on. If I do break the jump into "eras" how much should I charge to be a being like Zero? Like, there are plenty of eldritch godlike entities in later games, but for the early games there's nothing even close to Zero in power.

>>4809 What exactly do you think being something like Zero would give? The price would be dependant on us knowing that.

>>4833 The main thing is their ability to produce a functionally infinite amount of Dark Matter. Just one Dark Matter is a threat in itself, but Zero can spit out enough to blot out the sky of Dreamland, and Zero Two was able to corrupt an entire planet seemingly in a matter of seconds. It gets even more crazy since it's heavily implied that (barring a few notable exceptions) all Dark Matter operate under a single hive mind. I could offer separate perks for being able to corrupt things and being able to produce greatly weakened clones of yourself, but if I'm insistent on letting people be Zero right out the gate, I'll still need to offer the raw power needed to produce clones in the same absurd quantities as Zero.

>>4842 1200+cp if unseparated, 800 or so if separated.

>>4842 both the corruption and the cloning are each busted enough to be capstone worthy by themselves, especially if the latter retains the hive mind aspect. so both raw would be 600+600=1200 cp, assuming you use a discount to cut the price of one in half it would then be 600+300=900 cp. you could have the zero option be a 1200 cp species choice that gives the two perks for free with the additional 400 cp surcharge being for the raw power increase as a sort of bundle deal.

Why should I use your jumps over anyone else's? What do yours do that set them apart from the competition?

>>5319 My jumps are too powerful for you, Jumper! You would die!

>>3951 I figured it out! I have four items and three perks left before I'm done. What font size do you recommend for Google Docs? I'm on 14 and it seems small.

>>5325 > I'm on 14 and it seems small. That's usually considered pretty big, but I guess you're a mobilefag, so things will be a little different.

>>5325 Just like with Word, 12 is generally seen as a good default

For those who aren't freaks of nature like myself, is this readable?

>>5358 It looks alright to me. A bit bright but totally legible.

>>5358 I wanna be whitenight in this.

Post your latest WIP! Also give an estimation if when it's done

>>5489 ETA on the Quirk Supplement is maybe a week. Not gonna post anything until it's done though.

Thinking of offering a wish-granting clockwork star like Galactic Nova as a general item. If I'm charging 1200 CP for the Zero option (considering charging more, but that's what I currently have written down) how much should I charge for this star? For context, I'm thinking of only letting the star grant one wish per Jump, and may even require the user to gather "star power" from nearby planets every time you use it. There's also nothing stopping people from pulling a Marx and stealing this wish for themselves. >>5319 Quantity. No matter your interests, there's bound to be at least one Jump I've made that appeals to you. >>5325 It's completely context-dependent. I usually set the font size at 11 or 12, since 11 is the default size when you make a new doc. However, if I'm actively trying to keep my fluff as simple as possible, I'll set it at 13, 14, or even 15, since that forces me to be more succinct unless I want every perk to take up half a page.

>>5359 Got it, thanks. >>5382 Jump's focused around being an employee of L-Corp in some capacity. Not against adding Abno background later or even making a Abnormality-focused jump, I just don't have the energy for it at the moment. >>5489 See above. I have more but it's being cleaned up at the moment. I am bad at predicting when I finish things so the answer is Soon™.

>>5358 Huh, I didn't realize until now we didn't have a LC Jump yet. I guess I just assumed that we wouldn't have gotten a LoR Jump before a LC Jump.

>>5489 ETA: Several months (I'm reading book 8/12 and the 12th one isn't even out) Btw. this is the first cultivation/xianxa related stuff I ever read, so sorry if I got certain core concepts completely wrong a friend recommend that one because I wanted to read one without too many hax while being a good representation of and entry into the genre. Pretty long read so far.

>>5489 I really can't show more than this without giving away the goat. Maybe two or three days. I still only have 3 perks and 4 items to do, but that's mostly because of formatting your changing other things.

>>5498 Are you certain the 12th book is going to be the last one? Far as I can tell, xianxia novels tend to stretch on for a practical eternity.

>>5531 Despite the author's name, he is actually canadian, so he is writing in a western model, i.e. he's writing by book instead of by chapter. The reason xianxia gets so long is that they are webnovels, published by chapter and paid by word. Like old school pulps but wihout the restricted space of a magazine and without editors to check for minimun standards.

>>5531 Pretty sure, yeah At least from the Amazon description the books are also planned out in a way that there are 3 books for each of the 4 cultivation stages PRE immortality that the MC goes through

>>5539 >>5541 Oh, nevermind then.

>>5489 I normally don't post WiPs, but I'm feeling froggy. I have no idea when this will be done though, its slow going but its going nontheless. Maybe after several months, especially since few people here have any real interest in the subject.

>>5489 Tarzan is on the other device and Raid isn't really at WIP stage. The other one I've been working on recently is this one. Only God knows when it will be done.

>>5544 Thanks for the message on driveanons drive btw Otherwise I wouldn't have found my way here

>>5556 No worries. If I didn't do it I'm sure someone else would've. Although... the note I left in the drive was made in notepad. Not sure why it's now a Google Doc.

>>5491 1000 CP no discounts.

4chan is back, my dudes. And here I was almost done with my Jump.

>>5489 Technically speaking this is a very old wip that I'm only just now putting more work into, but eh, close enough.

>>5552 >Tarzan Nice to have more pulp hero jumps.

>>5552 I really hope it gets finished eventually. That baby piloting a robot is literally the exact reason why I like being smol children piloting smol mechs

Question: has anyone claimed Sonic OVA? I'm still trying to work on Land Before Time, but ideas for Sonic OVA and Sinful Spoils keep intruding instead. I figured I'd ask here so I don't step on anyone's toes.

>>5882 >has anyone claimed Sonic OVA Not so far as far as I know. You should be good.

>>5884 Good to know. Thanks, anon.

>>5639 Nice.

>>5639 >Battle Fucker >Turn any competition into a sexual one? Yes please. Even better if it's every fight: you get ambushed by a villainess in a back alley? Now it's a sexfight. Trying to stop the aliens from invading the Earth? Sexfight. Just go all in on it. You don't have to, of course, it'd just be nice.

>>5489 Define 'latest'.

>>5489 No WIP worth showing for Kirby yet. Still, until now I've just been procrastinating on even starting. Now that I have I can already feel the momentum building. I'd wager four weeks max, two minimum.

>>5639 >Saber, melty blood Saber makes sense, but why Melty Blood? >Signum, mgln As a Signum fan, I’m not quite sure how I feel here, so I must insist on you making the companion description extra hot.

Is it spelled fiat or fait?

>>6058 Fiat.

>>5904 Given the theme of the jump it was probably meant to be more aimed at sports, but it is a capstone so I’ll keep that in mind. >>6032 The joke for that list is that they all show up in fighting games but none of them are actually from a fighting game. Or, well, their series had a fighting game spinoff. The actual list was designed like a year ago and didn’t particularly respect the whole “actually showed up in the game” part of that, so I might change it to be more accurate. Or less. Depends on how I feel.

>>6107 That's fair. I'll be honest and admit I have a sexfight kink, so I live in hope to one day have such a perk.

>>6058 Fait is a french word, either meaning fact or the verb to do.

>>6060 >Fiat >>6113 >Fait Blonde, blond.

>>6118 Blond is for men, blonde is for women.

>>6118 Fiat is the word you're probably looking for in this, case, however, as it means 'a formal authorization or proposition; a decree.' You're being given permission or ability to do something. By fiat, you are able to do something, with fait being the act of doing something, or something being done.

>>6108 Nah, that's fair enough. I'll try to work it in there. I don't suppose you've got any suggestions for competitors other capstone?

>>6127 How about a perk for resisting life/energy draining effects? At least enough that it becomes pleasurable instead of painful or even potentially dangerous. Maybe with the addition that you can willingly lend your energy/cum to others to help them as a counterpart to that one Newcomer capstone.

>>6107 >The joke for that list is that they all show up in fighting games but none of them are actually from a fighting game. Or, well, their series had a fighting game spinoff. Ah, now I remember why I suggested Signum.

>>74 Can we not continue this thread whenever it ends? I don't like having to check an entire separate thread to see if any wip news or docs have been made.

>>6353 I get what you're saying, but I personally feel that having a thread for this makes it much easier to not get buried under general discussions. Besides, what's the point in having a whole board to ourselves if we aren't going to use it?

>>6358 I don't want a whole board I just want one thread to follow.

>>6386 Then I don't know what to dell ya. Clearly what you'd prefer and what I'd prefer are incompatible. I've said my piece, but I can only speak for myself. Maybe someone else here has their own opinion to throw into the mix.

>>6394 I am entirely ambivalent to the existence of this thread, in spite of using it a couple times.

>>6107 Could you add a perk to be able to use powers that would enhance natural weapons which would normally be dangerous to use in sex fights in a sexual manner? For instance, if we can add fire damage to our fists, we can add fire ‘stimulation’ to our dicks?

I have done everything from formating to proofreading, but have one perk left that is such a kick in the dick to write. One of those cornerstone perks where you have to at great and specific length explain everything about it because it's so nuanced. Give me strength.

>>6541 I believe in you, anon! You can do it!

>>6140 I don’t think that fits very well, sorry. >>6171 Probably, yeah. Unfortunately as the list was made quite some time ago, I’m kind of thinking about changing it again. I’m thinking Precia, mostly on account of the fact I could give her the same ‘hag who wants bby’ energy as the final boss. >>6397 I can work with that, I think.

>>6543 >Probably, yeah. Unfortunately as the list was made quite some time ago, I’m kind of thinking about changing it again. I’m thinking Precia, mostly on account of the fact I could give her the same ‘hag who wants bby’ energy as the final boss. Precia was in Gears of Destiny, so that would work. The important question is would you be using Canon Precia or Innocent Precia?

>>6548 Innocent is probably more relevant given that iirc she's extremely touchy feelly and loving to her kids. Though honestly if I roll with 'wants a kid' as her motivation, there's not much practical difference since she won't have gone crazy over Alicia/Fate yes.

>>6542 Danke

>>6557 >Innocent is probably more relevant given that iirc she's extremely touchy feelly and loving to her kids. Excellent.

>tfw my sheer rage at a bullshit vote screwing up the ending to a story I've been following is motivating me to work on my jump Well great. Now at least something good will come out of this. What do you guys use to motivate you to work on your jump, aside from your interest in the setting/material?

>>6563 What story?

>>6353 Having this thread is better for discussion that's related to jumpmaking and not anything in general, so no, there is no reason not to continue it. You claim to care about wips and keeping track of updates, but you're asking people to make things easier for you. If you can't be bothered to keep up with updates, then don't. It isn't going to kill you. It also isn't going to go away for at least another 1500 posts, so there is plenty of time before the next thread will be made. >>6563 I use my jumps, so if I don't want to put a chain on hold I'm going to have to finish the jump.

>>6563 I enjoy the process, and get a sense of pride when I see people use them. Also, more often than not, jumpmaking is itself the motivator. It gives me an incentive to check out all kinds of media I've had my eye on but just kept putting off for one reason or another.

Man, with some of the Kirby longplays I've been using for reference, it's not uncommon to see players with up to 100 extra lives just sitting in their pocket. That tells me this might not be a Jump where I'd want to go all-in on including gameplay abstractions.

>>6573 Eh, catfight story, been going on for about...two years now, give or take? Anyways, one of the girls look like she's going to win, standing and conscious, and the artist is telling all her fans 'oh yeah, she's about to win!'...and then went 'ha, psyche, winner of this vote is going to win'. Keep in mind the one girl is standing and conscious with the ref making the three count while the other girl is down and out on the floor. But the other girl has more fans, so if she wins the vote, she'll manage to win, even though that makes no sense. The worst part is, I saw it coming, saw the signs of it, and even asked about it, but the artist made like there was nothing to worry about, only to pull out the rug at the last second. Pisses me off.

>>6358 >>6394 It's not just you. As far as I can tell, almost every jumpmaker who's actively working on something and has made it to the bunker has posted their work here. Those who want (potential) feedback from the general thread have also posted their work there. In the unlikely event a jumpmaker SOLELY wants feedback from the general thread, they can just use that or the normal 4chan thread instead of both here and wherever they prefer to general-post.

>>6655 Why does the other girl have more fans?

>>6696 Five bucks say it's because she's black, and thus 'exotic'. Some of her fans say it's because the other girl and her allies cheated, and they did, but so did she and her allies.

>>6655 Grummz?

>>6737 Nah, different guy. And to his credit, he came out and said 'yeah, sorry, the vote doesn't actually determine the winner' a few minutes ago. So it's less a matter of 'ha, you fucking idiots!' and more a matter of not properly communicating, and in the process pissing people off.

>>6629 Can you add something for the Kirby games just generally being rather easy? Heck, I think in the yarn games there literally isn't a failure state and you just lose currency.

>>6767 I mean, I'm not sure what more I can do beyond just stating outright that this really isn't a very dangerous setting. I'm all ears if you have any specific ideas of what I could do. I don't remember the exact context, but I think there have been some comments from developers at Q&A's implying that the number of characters or enemies that actually "die" in these games is shockingly low. Enemies exploding into stars is just an abstract way to show Kirby knocking them out, and they stated even enemies Kirby inhales are just teleported somewhere else once he's done with them. So the odds of dying are extremely low by default.

>>6775 Sorry, I meant like, a perk to carry that aspect of the setting into future jumps. Just making the whole jump's genre lighter and softer. Like, disease isn't a thing, there is food just lying around sometimes, everyone is a lot safer(not just jumper), trauma and corruption isn't a thing that lingers, possession and mind control can be fixed by just beating up the victim a bit, the eldritch abomination that is trying to destroy the world isn't actually as big a threat as it looks like, etc. I just really like the general Kirby vibe.

>>6788 Ah, that's what you meant. I do have plans for various perks of that nature. Like perfectly preserved food being everywhere, being able to breath underwater as long as you have a snorkel, the vacuum of space being an inconvenience at best, purging possession through violence, etc. Now that you point it out, I might be able to lump a number of these together into a single perk.

>>6792 some villains surviving even though their souls just straight up exploded stands out in my mind as being rather notable for example. thank you gene, you are a based jumpmaker!

>>6795 Well, it's made pretty explicit that Haltmann is as dead as someone could conceivably be in this universe. If you're talking about Leongar, that's from Forgotten Lands, which is outside the scope of what I'll be covering.

>>6799 i'm talking about marx and magolor.

>>6767 >>6788 I mean, how much of that is the laws of reality vs just Kirby being a gigaChadly blob monster?

>>6800 Wait, which of them got soulsploded? I thought Marx just got regular exploded, and Magalor was just blasted into an alternate dimension?

>>6801 I'll admit it is pretty much impossible to tell how much of this ease is due to Kirby just being that strong, or his enemies just being that weak. Still, some of the factors mentioned are clearly just facts of this world, like food being absolutely everywhere, and nobody seems to have any trouble moving and breathing in space.

>>6802 You kill Marx's soul at the end of The True Arena in Superstar Ultra and Magalor's Soul at the end of Extra Mode in Return to Dreamland. Their canonicity is dubious, since Magalor's epilogue can't happen if his soul got killed. But it's Kirby, everything runs on dream logic anyways

>>6801 i feels slanted to being the laws of reality to me >>6802 both of them, because their games hard modes add an extra phase to the fight where they get the "soul" part added to their health bar names, indicating their are literally spiritual entities at that point manifesting for a salty runback out of sheer spite. on that note please gib a perk to be able to fight as just a soul.

>>6809 >both of them, because their games hard modes add an extra phase to the fight where they get the "soul" part added to their health bar names, indicating their are literally spiritual entities at that point manifesting for a salty runback out of sheer spite. on that note please gib a perk to be able to fight as just a soul. Aren't those bosses non-canon? But yes, there will be a soul form perk.

>>6802 >>6808 Okay, correction. You do kill Marx's soul after he uses the remains of Galactic Nova to come back to life, but the battle against Magolor Soul was to free his soul from the corruption of the Master Crown >>6810 Magolor's Soul being defeated is actually canon, his epilogue starts off with his Soul getting defeated

>>6810 nice! will there be galacta knight and morpho knight options in there somewhere?

>>6814 >Magolor's Soul being defeated is actually canon, his epilogue starts off with his Soul getting defeated Huh, didn't notice that. It's such a subtle thing that even the wiki seems to have just assumed this was a mistake and only mentions it in the notes. >>6816 There will be a Galacta-Knight option, but I'm only covering the games up to Tilt-n'-Tumble (+Super Star Ultra) in this current Jump. Morpho-Knight isn't a thing until Star Allies, which will likely be at least two Jumps away, probably more if I decide against doing these back-to-back.

It's getting late for me. If there are any other questions or requests, I won't see them until tomorrow.

>>6397 >>5904 600 cp - Thematic Overdrive Alright, let's take a bit of a break. Up until now I’ve been discussing all the ways that you could be empowered based on a single theme. But you might have powers outside of that, or even other themes that you gained from other places. You can now mix and match these things freely, causing every power you have to be modified slightly as they suddenly fall under the sway of whatever choice you made via Thematic Thighs - or to have all the perks that reference it suddenly alter themselves based on another such theme that you might possess. Perhaps you are a magic knight with the power to set your sword ablaze? Mostly likely you can now set your cock ablaze - possibly literally, possibly literally - and spray nigh-molten cum if you so desire. 600 cp - Battle Fucker The roots of the WFT lie in the ancient Egyptian futanari duels, wherein futanari competed to make each other cum first. As an old sport, it’s also naturally a respectable one. Probably. At least it isn’t endangering the world like their card games. However, it is also somewhat limited in scope, as it is by its nature only a sport that futanari can compete in. However, we can take things a bit further. With this, you may make the WFT a bit more equal opportunity and make it so that men, or even women, are invited. Of course, this makes it more of a general sexual combat kind of deal. In fact, you’ll find that most combat that you end up involved in is now sexual combat. Mugging in a back alley? They need to sexually dominate you as part of their threats. And if you dominate them, you might just walk away with their wallet. There we go, that oughta work well enough.

>>6861 Wooooh! This looks great, BLADE! Now, I shall spread the glory of sexfights everywhere! Along with finding a way to transform everyone into futanari so that every world will become a realm of futa on futa sexfighting! ...I hope I'm allowed to say this on here even if this isn't the lewd thread. That'd be embarrassing if I couldn't and got swatted for it.

>>6862 I've seen worse on 4chan, so. You're probably fine. This jump also has a 'futanari exist' perk in it, but it's semi-limited in that the way it was written it only goes up to 50%. I'm not sure if combining two or three such perks would get you up to 100%, but there's always stranger things like going to Nobilis to find and murder other genders or just Modded Skyrim for the Reassignment perk.

>Teisou Gyakuten []: At the start of each jump, you may adjust the local standards around who pursues who as you like, affecting both social standards and instincts to fit the dynamic that you desire. You may also adjust local ratios of sexes and sexual orientations, wider gender roles and standards, sexual dimorphism, and so on. This perk may also allow sexes outside the natural binary to emerge naturally, or be used to quash their existence to the point that they won’t even emerge through artificial and/or intentional means. >This may be applied as a sudden change upon your arrival or as a retroactive change that always was, and you may choose to make it so some event happens or happened to cause the change.

>>6864 Neat! I'll have to work on that, then.

>>6861 You wrote ‘possibly literally’ twice.

>>6865 What’s this for?

My post in the general reminded me. I've had this idea brewing in my head for a scenario that I will be 100% honest mainly exists to facilitate my plans for my next Chain. It'll be a similar deal to the Baki or Afro Samurai scenarios, where even if you succeed in the Jump itself, the challenge doesn't stop there. Basically, some trace of Dark Matter will be able to follow you into future worlds. It will generally do whatever it can to spread its influence and cause you trouble. The more its influence spreads, the greater its power becomes. The following two Kirby Jumps would modify the challenge. Maybe Part 2 will extend the threat to even more mutated branches of Dark Matter or maybe empower evil entities in general wherever you go, and Part 3 will cause you to clash with more primordial entities like Void or the butterfly. Should you take all three versions and manage to fully purge Void's influence once it has evolved sufficiently through various worlds, you will not only spark but become a transdimensional entity akin to Void yourself. This exists pretty much just so I can justify having Dark Matter stick around my Chain as a recurring antagonist. Still, I don't want my personal motives blind me if this is just fundamentally a lousy idea for one reason or another. Any particular thoughts on this idea, or ways I could improve it to be more appealing to people who aren't me? If all else fails I can just ditch the scenario idea entirely and just houserule that Dark Matter gets to stick around in my Chain because I said so.

I'm not done with this quite yet, but I'd like to hear folks' opinions on what I have so far.

>>7058 >tfw I now have to pick a favorite dinosaur to be >mfw I'm not entirely sure what dinosaur I would be if I had to pick one This is going to be a hard think. Anyway, I'm reading this over and will see if I have any comments afterwards

>>7041 Having a spark scenario split in 3 jumps sounds like a cool idea. You already had discounts keyed to go off of perks in other jumps with the gun grave stuff right? I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do it.

>>7058 Lookin good so far

>>7058 Seems pretty solid to me. I haven't even thought about TLBT since I was like 8, but I'm not seeing anything particularly unbalanced.

>>6948 Ah whoops, that second one is supposed to be metaphorically. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>7058 Looking great! The OG movie was one of my favorites when I was little. I never did get much into the direct to video sequels though.

>>7063 There's a ton of dinosaur options, so I'm not surprised! I am glad to see that you like it so far, though! >>7084 Good to hear! >>7087 Good to know, balance was something I was worried about so I'm glad to hear everything's on track. >>7115 You didn't miss much. Some of the sequels were decent, but most of them were cheesy at best and a cash-grab at worst. They did have some bright spots, like Pterano, Petrie's uncle who I based a lot of the Scheming Scavenger perks on.

So. Skybourne Jump. Airships. Should I either just offer a bunch of Airship types to purchase, or make buying an aiship a single General item purchase and include an Airship Building subsystem or supplement? I'm, leaning towards the latter, because I can easily see people wanting to make their own ships with Shadow Engines and the like built in. I've never done a jump with a seperate build system/supplement, but Red's recent Asura's Wrath jump got me thinking about it

>>7189 I love customization tables, so that always gets my vote, but they are rather difficult to actually make. So my advice is to get everything else in the Jump done first, and then try working on the building subsystem, at that point if you get it done great! But if it burns you out you can always just drop it and add the general item to quickly complete the Jump.

>>7198 >>7189 I guess between the coments here and in the bunker I'll have to add a Vehicle customization table.

I posted it in the main thread already, but I figured I might as well post it here as well.

Perks are coming along nicely, but I'm drawing a total blank on a Meta Knight capstone perk. I had one idea about a perk based on how Meta Knightmare Ultra is a weird patchwork of all the other games in Super Star, but I couldn't think of how specifically that would manifest as a perk. Anyone have any other ideas for a capstone?

>>7397 What perks do you have for Meta Knight so far? My first thought is a perk where you grow with greater challenges, like how Meta Knight is able to take on Galacta Knight, the most powerful warrior in the Galaxy, and win, even though I think there's some lore hints that Galacta Knight was one of the heroes who defeated Void Termina at his best. Alternatively, since you're basing this off of Retro Meta Knight, what about a perk for command? Being a capable leader who can gain the genuine loyalty of your minions, to the point where they're willing to fight to what should be their death for the sake of your dream?

>>7400 What perks do you have for Meta Knight so far? Here's what I have so far (double perklines BTW): >400 DP - Grow stronger ridiculously fast through combat. >400 DP - Can arrange for the creation of excessively large and disproportionately advanced structures like the Halberd. >600 DP - Can use a blade to cut through dimensions to call forth various phenomena (like how Galacta Knight can call minions from nowhere in his boss fight, and fights with him in later games have him rip open a hole in space that fires a massive laser). >My first thought is a perk where you grow with greater challenges, like how Meta Knight is able to take on Galacta Knight, the most powerful warrior in the Galaxy, and win, even though I think there's some lore hints that Galacta Knight was one of the heroes who defeated Void Termina at his best. Well, maybe I can upgrade the perk about growing stronger through combat to a capstone. >Alternatively, since you're basing this off of Retro Meta Knight, what about a perk for command? Being a capable leader who can gain the genuine loyalty of your minions, to the point where they're willing to fight to what should be their death for the sake of your dream? I could, but I have a very similar capstone for the royal perkline.

>>7406 Looks neat. I'd also say it'd be a good idea to upgrade the 'Grow stronger ridiculously fast through combat' perk to 600cp. And in its place...what about a perk for finding worthy adversaries? Foes you can test yourself against, enemies who will actually push you, ways to hone your skill, maybe with a note at the end of the perk about how with just this, you have a certain limit, which would then lead into the perk about growing stronger faster through fighting.

>>7411 >And in its place...what about a perk for finding worthy adversaries? Funny thing is, I had the exact same thought, but I decided to just lump that effect into the now upgraded perk. Because being able to find strong abilities isn't inherently worth 400cp on its own, so it only makes sense to make it a package deal. Capstones tend to be the most eye-catching part of a Jump, so I tend to find it harder to fill them out compared to everything else. That was the last capstone, so I'm sure I won't have as much trouble finding something to fill that 400cp slot. Knock on wood.

>>7415 >strong abilities *strong opponents

>>7415 Knock on wood >YOU HAVE ANGERED WISPY WOODS

>>7415 Having knocked on wood, here's a thought: what about a perk to affect great societal change by force? Meta Knight's whole thing was wanting to conquer Dream Land to make them less lazy. So maybe something like that?

Have a dark sun jump. it's jumpable, but not balanced at all.

>>7483 How do you intend to handle levels, xp, etc.? Or for it to be interpreted if you have already done everything you plan to on that front.

>>7525 Game abstraction.

>>7525 >>7581 Now that its mentioned though, I probably should indicate what sort of capabilities the initial perks for clerics and wizards grant.

>>7483 >every time you advance beyond the 20th level As in, every 20 levels?

>>7676 Based on the context of the perk, I would assume it's a metaphor for going beyond the normal limits of a skill/power.

>>7645 NTA, but it's talking about how every level from 21 up as a defiler/preserver turns you into more of a dragon/avengion, until at level 30 you're fully transformed.

>>7483 Outback is an amazing drawback. A must take for sure.

Kirby Part 1 is coming along, but I just realized I didn't take any notes for potential drawbacks. Wanted to check if anyone had suggestions. Starting to think I can't be trusted with the luxury of a dedicated jumpmaking threads. I'd usually try to only ask 1-3 times for suggestions before deciding I was on my own for everything else. Something about this thread compels me to ask for suggestions the second I get an excuse to.

>>7885 >Trees hate you. >Kirby keeps eating all your food and/or minions.

>>7885 I don't see any problems with you asking for help. Isn't that what this thread is for? As for drawback ideas, if this is for Retro Kirby, then: >drawback for your food constantly being stolen >drawback for having to work for a boss who tends to treat you poorly >drawback for either being possessed by Dark Matter yourself or dealing with Dark Matter possessions >drawback where in order to get the best ending, you need to search for tiny little things, making adventures harder and longer if you want to avoid a Neutral End or even Bad End >drawback where you're constantly searching for a new challenge, unable to rest until you've tested your skills against a worthy foe, never finding rest or peace for more than short periods >drawback where you keep getting dragged into problems like the Sun and Moon clashing or Meta Knight trying to conquer Dreamland or Dark Matter causing chaos >drawback where you accidentally causes messes, like releasing ancient evils or causing chaos, that you must quickly fix before things get worse >Alternatively, drawback where you're trying to prevent bad things but everyone thinks you're up to no good >drawback where you're sealed away, and need to find some way to trick someone into freeing you >drawbacks where you have to face a True Arena style boss rush, complete with Soul versions of final bosses

>>7891 >>7931 Alright, with these I should be able to finish off drawbacks. With any luck I'll finish off items and perks in the next couple days and be able to start fluffing. >I don't see any problems with you asking for help. It's probably a holdover from my early Jumpmaking days. Whenever there was an issue about something I was really stumped on in a Jump, I would often get caught in a loop of asking for suggestions, not liking any of the answers but not being able to articulate exactly why, and then repeating that same question over and over again, sometimes for an entire week. Sometimes the thread would call me out on this behavior, but even if they didn't it still didn't feel good to shoot down idea after idea without being able to provide any better alternative. I guess that experience has made me a bit paranoid of being overly reliant on the thread.

>>7948 >spoiler That's fair. Well, at least it worked out this time, right?

>>7951 Yeah. After nearly a month of procrastination, this Jump has started to shape up crazy fast in these last couple days.

I think my jumpmaking queue for the next while is going to look like this. >Modern Teisou Gyakuten (QQ) >Cosplay Fetish Academy (QQ) >Frostpunk >Beastars >Cyberpunk 2077 >Leviathan Trilogy rework >Beyond Rubies (QQ) >Hero Girl x Healer Boy: Touch or Death (QQ) >XCOM War of the Chosen >XCOM Chimera Squad >XCOM Enemy Within

>>8046 >XCOM War of the Chosen Needs a Syken grade commander perk. >https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhZuVFh-nPshthFEYoSyesV_qRE6kYgpw

>>8062 Something to watch and makes notes off in the background, thanks.

>>8065 It’s funny seeing others who play XCOM 2 say you shouldn’t bring specialists and focus on more combat power so you don’t get hurt in the first place, while Syken, when doing his Saving Your Disaster runs, often talks about how the submitter doesn’t have enough medic focused specialists and how important they are. >makes notes off in the background Two comments I remember from a different run of his that you might be able to get some ideas from. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx9F81e5lk&list=PLhZuVFh-nPshgRzPDf4V87Nt8eHq_6a4T&index=7 >Whenever you say "The game saw we needed (resource X), so that's what it gave us", is that actually another hidden mechanic or simply kind of wishful thinking? >Let me answer your question: There is indeed a hidden mechanic that looks at „shortcomings“ that the player has. For instance, if you continue to have your contacts maxed out, then the game is more likely to spawn a global resource for a resistance contact, likewise with energy, elerium, alloys and a like. >You can notice this when you are having plenty of a resource that you will almost never get that resource as an option on the globe. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8cyMBJmH2g&list=PLhZuVFh-nPshgRzPDf4V87Nt8eHq_6a4T&index=20 >A few months ago, I encountered a guy on r/XCOM who said in a thread complaining about L/I that the problem with is is that it's too easy, not too hard. Along with most other people, I rolled my eyes and thought he was just being arrogant. Seeing a lone wolf playthrough, though, leads me to see just how lenient the game is in some ways, even on the hardest difficulty.

>>7483 Having an illiteracy moment, what do the different prices in Will & Way entail? I assume 300 gives you a major and minor power as described, while 600 is full access to the class? Also, Grove lists 500 in the title as its price but 600 in the text. Objectively a clean 1-up is very good, but I feel like No-One and Nothing could use a little bit more sauce. Build: >>8079

>>7483 I am gonna echo smt. Pricing on psionstuff is completely illegible. I honestly thought it was just me for a moment but apparently not.

>>8302 (which is a shame because I wanted to build a psionic hermit)

Alright. Kirby Part 1 Skeleton is pretty much done. Will probably start fluffing tomorrow.

Part of me wants to give the Jump a Pink background to make it pop. A white background feels to bland, and a black background doesn't quite fit the tone.Think pink would be too torturous on the eyes?

>>8353 Depends on the shade of pink? You might wanna put the text in actual boxes if you're doing that though

>>8353 Depends on the shade of pink. A softer off-pink might work. As long as its not an eye-searing neon or bubblegum pink it should be fine

>>8357 >>8358 Was thinking either regular Pink or Pastel Pink. https://htmlcolorcodes.com/colors/shades-of-pink/

>>8358 A bubblegum pink bimbo jump would be funny to see.

>>8364 I'd go with regular over pastel, though Millenial and Seashell would be more legible and less eyebleeding, though regular pink "could" work if you have the right text color, text boxes, or decent complimenting images to break things up.

>>8418 >>8364 Bisque could also work

On second thought, maybe I should wait till Part 2 to start getting crazy with colors. Kind of as a nod to the first game being the only one where Kirby was white.

I've found that I don't really care for colored backgrounds. I think they look ugly in almost all cases. I prefer, in order: 1) Colorful images. 2) Colorful borders/ribbons/divider/headers/footers. 3) Colorful text.

>>8453 I most prefer light gray backgrounds. Just something to dull the otherwise overbearing, eye searing white.

>>8302 >>8080 >>7676 Thanks for the feedback, will work on these issues. >>7861 Thank you. I've been watching a lot of aussie content, and then reading about Dark Sun, and I started hearing voices saying shit like "yeah nah, that's just the outback" and "that sounds like a nasty bugger, but ours are bigger".

Does something like this seem overkill for a Jump aesthetic?

>>8675 Yes, for a background. No for borders or headers.

>>8675 Would make a good cover, and maybe use the stripes at the top and bottom for borders.

>>8675 Get rid of the pink background and your good

I have a number of ideas for how to get real fancy with the formatting in Kirby, but all of those would take time to figure out. I'm actually starting to get really excited now that I'm at the home stretch, to the point I don't think I have that kind of patience, and just want to go pretty basic with the formatting so I can jump right in. This is admittedly a good problem to have. It arguably isn't even a problem, since I'm doubtful anyone but me cares how fancy or basic I get with formatting. Still, it's a weird situation to find myself in.

How does this look?

>>9245 I like the font, but I'm worried it's too hard to read.

>>9245 It looks fine to me, but I'm one of those folks who can read black on white no problem.

>>9245 I think the readability is fine, but I would use it sparingly rather than for the whole doc.

How many words is too many words for describing an OC companion in a jump? I'm wanting to include one for each origin and i'm trying to keep the description down to their past, personality and skills/perks they have.

>>9328 That's a judgement call you'll have to make. I've had OC companions that are three sentences long, and others that take up an entire page. It all depends on how many words you feel like you absolutely need to get across why someone would want to buy this companion.

>>9328 As long as they're evenly distributed so it isn't clear that one companion had more thought put into it than the others, whatever length needed to describe the character is fine.

>>9245 It reads just fine for me, but I tend to be less bothered by odd font/colors than most.

>>9245 I would use it for perk names and section headers, but use something else for the main body.

>>9250 >>9368 That sounds reasonable.

>>5498 Can you reduce the starting age, so we can actually be sixteen at the start? The protagonist starts at that age and sects usually start looking to recruit people at sixteen.

Enigma of Fear update. Items done, onto Companions and the eternal struggle of figuring out how to price this shit.

Have some perks.

Good morning thread! Progress on Skybourne Jump is progressing. Still in the early planning stage, but have most things planned out already. Currently still missing >600cp Item for Planar Refugee racial origin >100-400 items for People of Khrone racial origin, but I do have a floating item that could be placed in either 200 or 400 >100 item for Misfits and Monsters racial origin. >100cp item for Sphere Caster class origin >600cp item for Practitioner class origin >200cp item for Operative class origin >200cp perk for Champion class origin >some more 100-300cp Drawbacks. Items are especially hard, since I was already planning on granting a WBL purchase option for people to purchase supplies and magic items. As always, if you have any ideas please share. >What are these origins? I have a wip both earlier in the thread, and have this current one. You can check the first few pages to get an idea for the current layout of the jump and the origins therein. >You mentioned Vehicles before? I do have plans in place for Vehicle customization table, and will make vehicles a purchase option based on what size you want. Though I am debating whether to put the thing in the jump itself, or spin it off to a seperate supplementary document

>>9707 A new Castlevania jump?

>>10027 I think it's the vampire futa thing, or vampire vs futa. Blade really wants to make a jump about futa vampires. Wonder why he didn't just look for a castlevania futa doujin.

>>10015 The content is too WIP for me to have much in the way of any real feedback yet, but I can say that the layout is looking great! And the setting seems rather interesting.

>>10027 >>10098 I wish it was Castlevania, unfortunately I couldnt find anything that seemed workable to me.

New jump Because why not

>>10332 > And the setting seems rather interesting. I'd say its more "promising" than interesting. Outside of the few books and two campaign modules, there's honestly not too much on the setting, partly because they released a lot of their Spheres content shortly before Paizo released Pathfinder 2e. So right now DDS is currently torn between either reworking everything they've made for D&D 5e, or trying to instead make their own Pathfinder 1.5e system (Like what Pathfinder did for D&D 3e, ironically enough), and until they finally decide to commit one way or the other (though they currently are leaning towards the former, to my chagrin) they probably won't be making anymore Skybourne content considering how its tied to the Spheres system.

>>10360 Huh, that's too bad. They probably would have been fine if they just stayed the course. Literally no one I know who plays Pathfinder changed over to 2e, not a single one. Most, like my own group, are still using the OG rules, just in a homebrew setting.

Today I made the fatal mistake of getting mad at people on the internet. As a result, I was busy sulking and didn't make as much progress as I was hoping on Kirby. However, I still managed to finish of Drawbacks, leaving only Items and Perks. As long as I can avoid getting distracted, I'm hoping to be ready to post sometime this weekend.

>>10583 Happens to the best of us, Gene. Don't worry about to. Looking forward to the jump!

>>5498 I just finished book three of this. Is there any reason to buy the Dantain Widening technique, when the Ever Full Wine Pot, a combined regeneration and dantain widening technique, costs the same amount?

>>10356 The jump itself seems to be pretty good. Don't really like the introduction, but whatever.

>>10820 Yeah not my best work, but there isn't much to tell. 10ish years ago "the opening" happened, which is never properly talked about but alludes that a couple of interdimensional portals appeared. They led to the worlds of Gods and Devils, which are basically just humans that look like elves and can use magic, that's about it. They're a bit backwards socially as they still have uber monarchies but their magictech isn't that much different from earth tech at the time, after a few skirmishes (never stated but implied a couple times) they basically open relationships with humans with Gods and Demons going in and out without issue. The kinds of both realms are flippant af but they mostly act like destroying a city or forcing humankind into uber monarchy would be easy and better. Probably because their tech isn't too backwards, they have magic (people with big magic can apparently just nuke cities out of existence) and both their realms have been connected since who knows how long so they're buddies. Outside that... Rin (the MC) meets Lisianthus (god princess) as a kid, helps her because she's lost. Then meets Lycoris, and something similar happens. 10 years later at the start of the game the two (Lia and Nerine) appear as transfer students saying they're here to basically seduce him into being their husband, of either of, or both, or both and more. Polygamy is apparently based Rin also have like a dozen or so more women into him thanks to the spin off heroines.

Decided to make a small update to Sonic Adventure. Your default time in the Jump is shortened to just the events of SA1 & 2, and the cost of powerups has been upped from 100/400 to 200/800. I'm not sure what I was thinking by offering collectable 1-ups for 300 CP.

>>10914 On second thought, should I just remove 1-ups entirely from that option? It's one thing to include something like that in settings like Ajin where it's unambiguously an in-universe phenomena, or settings like Alternity where the power level is so high it doesn't matter, but maybe including something like that in Sonic is a bit much.

>>10914 >>10923 Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. Seems like the simplest solution.

>>10923 >>10965 I've yet to find one ups being canon, save for Archie sonic/Sonic SatAM with that one billion rings nonsense. Most you could do is a meta perk for chaos control nonsense.

>>11177 They're canon in Scott Pilgrim.

>>11187 Presumably we're talking exclusively Sonic settings. Otherwise everything's canon somewhere.

>>10923 Wasn't there a Sonic game where he literally died and the various characters had to go collect the chaos emeralds in order to bring him back to live? I think that might have happened in 06 actually.

>>11188 Yeah, that makes sense. Anyways, Scott Pilgrim is definitely a sonic setting

Enigma of Fear update. Finished (most of, still have the final ones to do) the Companions, now starting to work on the Drawbacks. Which have been MUCH easier thus far. >>11193 Pretty sure you're thinking of 06, yeah.

May the 4th be with you! Here are 0.1 of my Star Wars Rebels and Star Wars: Super Bombad Racing jumps. Feedback and critique are appreciated.

Still 15 pages left to fluff on Kirby. If I stick with Necrophosis as my next Jump, it'll be a gauntlet, which usually implies some kind of reward for success. This is difficult, because everything in the game that could kind of be interpreted as an advantage has some horrible catch. Here's a TL;DR for the plot (by my understanding): **This game takes place at the end of the universe. It's heavily implied to have been destroyed by Azathoth or a similar entity. Gods, immortals, and pretty much everyone unlucky enough to be alive at this time are funneled into a bizarre pocket dimension afflicted with the curse of Necrophosis, which causes everyone within to slowly decay, mummify, and deform, while being unable to die. Even once their bodies crumble into dust, their minds will remain within the sand as a vague mass of consciousness. Once this has happened enough times after countless eons, these minds will pool together into a new entity, referred to as "Consciousness Itself", who is the player character. It's ambiguous whether the player character actually gains anything from being "Consciousness Itself". There's nothing indicating they gain any additional knowledge from this, aside from being able to vaguely understand anyone that tries to communicate with them, regardless of what language they're speaking or if they even have the capacity for language in the first place. With the help of various gods and whoever else happens to be around, you begin the process of essentially jump-starting the universe, which involves scattering your own consciousness to become the souls of every entity that will ever live. During this process, you learn that this is far from the first time this has happened. It's also heavily implied that before you first seeded the universe with life the first time, you were basically the Christian God who the various outer gods feared for your inexplicable power to warp reality with your voice, a power you regain at the very end of the game before using a machine to restart the cycle all over again. It's claimed that this is potent enough to kill outer gods just by speaking it, but naturally we don't see anything remotely that impressive during gameplay. The fact that you can't just speak the puzzles that follow into solving themselves is proof of that.** Anything in here sound like it could make a decent reward? The weird voice stuff is the obvious one, but either it functions as stated in lore, which would be completely overpowered, or it functions as shown in gameplay, which would be fairly underwhelming. I mean, maybe I can put restrictions on it until post-spark, but that obviously isn't ideal.

>>11717 Huh, apparently spoilers don't work over multiple paragraphs. Or maybe there's just an upper limit on how long a spoiler can be. Testing, testing. **Testing, testing.** Testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing.

>>11717 >maybe I can put restrictions on it until post-spark, but that obviously isn't ideal. I actually do think it might be ideal. Like, once per jump, you may try to ascend again, which if you succeed will allow you to warp reality with limitations (like a word, or sentence) like a wish. Then you "restart the cycle" by going to the next jump, until you earn your Spark. People will understand if you bar this kind of thing behind a Spark.

Why is there a separate thread for jump doc's / WIP's? Wouldn't it make more sense to have this as part of the general thread?

>>11932 See >>74 >Since we have a whole board to ourselves, might as well have a dedicated jumpmaking thread. >5. Jumpmakers can still post any content they wish in the standard thread; this thread is designed for targeted feedback with minimal distractions stemming from other discussions. Given that quite possibly a majority of jumpmakers have been using it, it seems that many consider it a welcome departure from the norm.

>>11932 One, there is plenty of thread space to permit another thread. Two, the general thread moves quickly enough that a posted jump can get swept aside, but this thread does not move quickly at all so it can be better used for review. Three, this is a general for dedicated discussion, so there is less off topic discussion.

>>11717 I think the ability to be the Christian God and one-shot outer gods with your voice alone is way too overpowered without imitations to some degree, so it might be best to restrict it.

>>11932 While posting WIPs and Jump docs is part of it, it's also a place for generally asking for advice or suggestions on any Jumps you're working on. The general thread already tends to move at breakneck speed, even after isolating writeups and lewdposting into their own threads. Jumpmaking often requires more direct feedback than other aspects of the hobby, so if you happen to be asking about it at a time where none of the people who would be interested are around, it becomes very easy for the post to get buried. More to the point, there's no reason not to. Not sure why some people seem to act like having a whole board to ourselves is a bad thing. >>11987 Oh, make no mistake, I wasn't suggesting it be offered with absolutely no restrictions. Either I offer it heavily nerfed, or I don't offer it at all. I just wasn't sure how people would feel about their primary reward for coming to a setting designed to be endless torture is a power they can't even properly use until post-spark.

Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters is coming along. Right now I'm thinking that I will put out the Deck Builder section as a separate WIP first, because it will probably need the most tweaking and is likely to be done before the rest of the jump.

So much for finishing Kirby this weekend. All that's left to fluff are Perks, but that's still over 10 pages to go. I'm sure I can finish it over next week, but it's still a bummer. I wouldn't say I'm getting sick of Kirby, but I was definitely mentally ready to start on a new project already, and it'd cause more problems than it solves for me to switch gears this close to the finish line.

>>11676 Do you have list of your jumps or your drive like 9anon have?

Thank you for bringing the issues to my attention. I think I'm done with this, unless anyone has any more feedback.

>>12393 Really disappointed in this. It seems to have most of the problems the original jump does. Backgrounds don't have even close to the same number or cost of perks. And what they do have is not very strong. The 200 CP Psion perk for example seems to make you a level 1 Psion. None of the others seem to imply you're particularly skilled either unless you interpret Beast Mastery to make you a level 21 Psion, and the other backgrounds don't have anything close to that. Like I would expect a modern Dark Sun jump to allow you to be a Sorcerer King, not charge 600CP just for having prophetic dreams. Or look at how Drop Ins need to pay 250 CP just to get to be a normal example of a race from Athas instead of being someone from a weaker part of the setting.

>>12429 >The 200 CP Psion perk for example seems to make you a level 1 Psion It gives you one or four psionic powers, depending on if you're a psion or not

>>12436 Okay, granted. It makes you AT BEST a level 1 Psionicist and otherwise gives you less power than a level 1 character gets.

>>12429 >valid observations I tried to make the jump as in-line with the setting and source material as possible. I guess I succeeded. >I would expect a modern Dark Sun jump to allow you to be a Sorcerer King That sounds like a problem with your expectations.

>>12429 >Like I would expect a modern Dark Sun jump to allow you to be a Sorcerer King, not charge 600CP just for having prophetic dreams. Why are you expecting a D&D jump to start you off with the full powers of what is essentially a god? None of the other D&D jumps do that. Not even the one where you're an actual reincarnated god

>>12456 And those were mostly from very early in Jumpchain's history and aren't that great. It's really abnormal for a modern jump to start you off as an apprentice and force you to learn everything in-setting without even the option to start as one of the major players of the story.

>>12469 The one where you're a literal reincarnated god is from two years ago. Hell, half of our D&D jumps are less than four years old. >major players of the story ... Dude, the sorcerer kings aren't major players. They're minor side characters and plot devices that exist only to get killed by the actual players, a bunch of murderhobos who started off as newbies a few months before

>>12474 The Baldur's Gate main character isn't actually that strong or important in the context of Faerun and only barely so in that one story. I forget how the PCs in the first adventure kill their sorcerer king. I think he was weak and distracted by a ritual to advance on the next step of transformation into a dragon? It wasn't because a bunch of level 1 characters were actually stronger or smarter or better resourced than him. In a normal conflict, it is far better to be a level 20+ wizard with a city state you rule and a priesthood of cruel templars at your command than it is to be Bill the plucky level 1 gladiator.

>>12478 >The Baldur's Gate main character isn't actually that strong or important in the context of Faerun and only barely so in that one story. The Baldur's Gate main character isn't a reincarnated god. He's the bastard child of a dead god that said god wants to use to resurrect himself. The one where you can be a literal reincarnated god is Not Another D&D Podcast - Eldermourne Anyways, if you wanna be a Sorcerer King, just use the old jump. It's a 1000cp option, but it's essentially ensuring you'll hit the level of the Sorcerer Kings in a decade and gives you a version of the Metamorphosis that'll work in other jumps, allowing you to get even stronger than the Sorcerer Kings in just a few centuries

>>12482 >Eldermourne Not familiar with the setting and can't comment on how impressive being a reincarnated god makes you in it. Considering that one of their feats in the perk is "in some cases being able to make a full fledged familiar" I'm going to guess not a lot, but again I don't know. >it's essentially ensuring you'll hit the level of the Sorcerer Kings in a decade and gives you a version of the Metamorphosis that'll work in other jumps It doesn't say that you're guaranteed to hit their level of power in a decade, only that they will reveal the ritual to become a dragon in your ninth year and that you're 100% guaranteed to survive it if you cast the spell on the last day of the jump. At the actual start you're a level 1 defiler/psionicist. And it is is already annoyingly irregular that I don't get to equal the (lowest tier of the) big dogs until the literal last day of the jump, instead of having noteworthy power and skill during the actual jump I bought it in.

>>12302 I don't use a drive, I save my stuff locally on an external hard drive. Here is a list of my jumps.

>>12429 Added Ruins of Your Own, which I apparently dreamed I added before, but didn't actually.

>>12536 Can you add something in the notes, preferably at the start of the psionic section, that explains the specific difference between wild talent, devotion, and science? Because I'm looking at the perk for psions saying they can get 1 science and 3 devotions and I'm not sure exactly what that means. Does having a "science" mean we get everything listed with a science or only one ability? Does a devotion mean everything within the devotion list for a specific field or does it mean just one thing? Are wild talents just one specific ability? If so how is that different from having a devotion? Basically the psionic section, both in the origin and in the notes, kind of assumes that people already know what all this terminology means.

>>12536 >>12539 (also me) Also the psion beast mastery 400cp perk seems kind of weak? It appears to be 400cp, or 200 if discounted, for what is effectively just early access to something psions will get anyway once they level up enough. The extremely limited range, constant need for upkeep and going catatonic if the animals dies on top of that makes it seem like a very dubious choice to actually purchase since 200cp can easily net a Psion a good perk or item from out of origin. Basically, tldr, I think the beast mastery perk needs a buff.

>>12491 >It doesn't say that you're guaranteed to hit their level of power in a decade, only that they will reveal the ritual to become a dragon in your ninth year and that you're 100% guaranteed to survive it if you cast the spell on the last day of the jump. You need to be a 20th level Spellcaster/Psion multiclass with 500k free xp to cast the Defiler Metamorphosis spell. It's a tenth level spell. It also specifically says that you're a stage 0 Sorcerer Monarch, and the equivalent of Tithian >And it is is already annoyingly irregular that I don't get to equal the (lowest tier of the) big dogs until the literal last day of the jump, instead of having noteworthy power and skill during the actual jump I bought it in. Anon, it's not irregular for jumps to not outright offer you that level of power. Especially in a D&D jump, considering none of them actually offer you that level of power

>>12541 >It also specifically says that you're a stage 0 Sorcerer Monarch, and the equivalent of Tithian Then why does it bother giving you the perks to be a level 1 wizard and level 1 psionicist? If a jump has two outright contradictory statements about how strong an option is, I'm going to accept the weaker one. >Anon, it's not irregular for jumps to not outright offer you that level of power. Especially in a D&D jump, considering none of them actually offer you that level of power Yeah, because they're usually quite old or jumps for podcasts/games that didn't touch on the highest tiers of power that exist in the background of the setting. Look at how many jumps we've gotten in the last month that tell you that you're a total apprentice and aren't allowed to buy being the equivalent of the main villains. I thought that was why the jump was getting a dupe.

>>12513 Ayyy Thanks.

>>12539 Good point, added to the notes. >There are five psionic disciplines, categories of different powers. Instead of spell levels, psionic powers are separated into devotions (minor) and sciences (major). In-game, within each discipline a psion has access to, they must have twice as many devotions as sciences. >>12540 Dropped it to 300 (150 with a discount). Its a level 20+ ability, but then, so is a rogue's tunneling. I figured the ability to grow in power over time to let you control more and more creatures justifies the slight increase in price. Thank you for the feedback. >>12557 >Look at how many jumps we've gotten in the last month that tell you that you're a total apprentice and aren't allowed to buy being the equivalent of the main villains That doesn't sound like something exclusive to old jumps, if newer jumps are doing the same thing.

>>12562 No problemo.

>>12564 >That doesn't sound like something exclusive to old jumps, if newer jumps are doing the same thing. The point is that the number of jumps like that in the past month is 0.

>>12564 >I figured the ability to grow in power over time to let you control more and more creatures justifies the slight increase in price. If anything being able to control more creatures is actually a weakness because if even one of them dies the caster gets damaged and can go catatonic. It's an ability that actually becomes even more of a liability the more creatures it applies to, especially since within the context of jumpchain the vast majority of creatures you're going to be able to use it on are going to be very weak or potentially not exist at all since the wording implies it only works on creatures that are already psionic which the vast majority of settings simply don't have. The range limit also kind of requires that you go everywhere with them which kind of severely limits their utility since there will be plenty of times where that just isn't feasible. Beyond that though are you considering filling out more perks for the origins that have less? Because I'm looking at stuff like psion and drop-in and comparing that to stuff like gladiator and templar and noticing that some origins have like twice as many (or more) perks than other origins.

>>12564 > In-game, within each discipline a psion has access to, they must have twice as many devotions as sciences. So when it says you've got 1 science and 3 devotions in the Psion perk that means that you start with 1 power from the science section and 3 powers from a devotion section? Do the devotions have to come from the same discipline as the one the science comes from or can you unlock a power from any science so long as you maintain a 2-to-1 devotion-to-science balance?

>>12557 >Then why does it bother giving you the perks to be a level 1 wizard and level 1 psionicist? If a jump has two outright contradictory statements about how strong an option is, I'm going to accept the weaker one. It's not a mutually exclusive thing. It starts you off at level one and ensures you'll become an Advanced Being by the end of the decade ... Honestly, it shouldn't even be possible to be both a 1st level wizard, 1st level psionicist, and on the way to becoming an Advanced Being. Humans can't multi-class in 2e, you can't gain experience in a past class once you switch to a new one, and humans are the only ones that can become Advanced Beings >Yeah, because they're usually quite old or jumps for podcasts/games that didn't touch on the highest tiers of power that exist in the background of the setting. Look at how many jumps we've gotten in the last month that tell you that you're a total apprentice and aren't allowed to buy being the equivalent of the main villains. Most of them?

>>12603 >you can't gain experience in a past class once you switch to a new one Wtf do you mean I can't swing swords better/learn how to cast spells better if I take a hiatus to learn something else? That's stupid.

>>12596 Up to you. I'm not your DM. >>12595 >Beast Mastery The psionic requirement is a good point. It's not a problem on Athas because everyone and their cat is psychic. Other settings, you would need to seek them out. However, the other issues aren't so bad. You can just release them from your control before they die without a penalty (and while the damage might be unavoidable if they die, the catatonia only happens if you fail your save vs paralysis roll). If having them with you all the time is inconvenient, you can always leave them somewhere secure and release your control, then come back for them. >more perks for the origins that have less Dark Sun, and 2E D&D in general, is not particularly known for being balanced. I tried my best to balance the overall sum of points for perks and items for each background, and in consideration to other factors (clerics and druids have obligations, discovered wizards get stoned to death, etc).

>>12605 >Wtf do you mean I can't swing swords better/learn how to cast spells better if I take a hiatus to learn something else? That's stupid. 2e had weird rules like that. Like how non-human races have special racial classes that are hybrids of other classes

>>12605 nta but that's how the system worked in AD&D. Multi-classing let you advance in multiple classes at the same time but split XP evenly between them and could only be done in certain class combo's. Dual classing on the other hand, which only humans could do, meant you would level up in one class and then at some point you would give up leveling in that class (permanently) in order to start leveling in a different class and you'd only get your previous class abilities and such once your level in your new class surpassed your level in your old class. It was a weird mechanic and was really only useful for dipping into other classes for specific low-level abilities, often but not always into something like rogue. Probably the most well known display of the mechanic was in Baldur's Gate where you could level up Imoen to iirc something like level 6 as a thief and then level 7 as a mage which was enough to get her all the thief skills you'd want and still have her be a top-tier caster (for the game at least). In fact it was so common for players to do it that the developers actually made it canon for the second game where she'd start out having already dual classed as a thief / mage. TLDR - AD&D had weird mechanics.

>>12623 2e been trying to integrate worldbuilding and mechanics to a degree; non-human class limitation fuckery was explained as "otherwise immortal level 30 elves would just completely dominate the world." I think I prefer 3e-and-forward's "no, your specific player party is just Built Different" explanation for their capability to do things.

>>12393 To Deserve The Way (400) (Psion) As long as your mind, body, and spirit are in harmony, time and practice will see all your powers grow. Living a life of service, dedication, and commitment to your principles, whatever they are, will see your powers always grow stronger. However, turning your back on your ideals will see your powers falter and fail. >your powers falter and fail. So do you just lose all powers gained with this, aka fallen Paladins in older editions? Or do I simply stop getting more until I get my shit together?

>>12638 There's no "your party is stronger than normal" in 3e (except in Eberron). Anyone can advance their bodies and skills as far as possible with enough work. We had a multi-thread long screaming match about that exact topic.

>>12639 Up to you whether you lose the extra progress, or they become unreliable, or they stop progressing until you get in the right headspace or whatever.

Man, it feels like I'm getting less and less done each day. I really hope this isn't a sign that I'm burning out, that would suck for several reasons.

>>12730 You totally are. Go rest man.

>>12730 What do you do besides Jumpchain. Honestly it seems like you're here 24/7. If you're at the point where you literally have nothing going on in life except Jumpchain, there's definitely a risk of burnout.

>>11998 Perhaps you could give a lesser version of the voice? Not powerful enough to do as the lore describes, but enough for smaller scale changes. Changes such as parting a lake, healing, demanding the loaves of bread and fish multiply, creating a tornado of fire, things like the biblical showings.

>>12754 Yeah. A break would probably do me some good. At the very least, it'll probably do me some good to try and go at least a day without checking the bunker, right after I finish this post. >>12817 Well, that's kind of the problem. If I'm not working on Jumps, I'm reading, playing games, or watching videos. But due to the nature of JumpChain, it's hard to consume any piece of media without thinking "I wonder how I can make this into a Jump?". Well, I guess that's no excuse not to at least try to take my mind off JC for a bit. >>12833 Huh. That could work. Kind of like being a Biblical prophet instead of a capital "G" god. Not going to promise anything at this stage, but I'll definitely keep that in mind.

>>12994 It's clear that you have a habit of focusing on one thing, but trying to view everything through the lens of Jumpchain is ultimately going to hurt your ability to enjoy anything on its own merits. There are also real world consequences of that kind of deep immersion but I'm assuming you're at a point in life where you don't have to choose between real life responsibilities and Jumpchain yet.

>>10356 I thought you had the Shuffle jump for a long time?

>>13490 >The pdf is jumpable and got posted in thread but Ric never finished the intro text and thus is technically WIP. However since I've played the game myself I don't need an introduction for it. last mention thereof

>>13493 thanks

This is a WIP of the Deck Builder section of my Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (anime) jump. The main feedback I need is on a stipend for this section. I'm also considering an alternate currency for this section and a 1:2 conversion of cp into it, based on how this section seems to lean a little on the expensive side. The Spirits option is likely to be reworked a bit because I'm not 100% confident with it as it stands, and I haven't decided whether to also offer a direct Duel Spirit species option yet. Lastly, I haven't decided on where in the jump this section should be placed. Some of the Notes section has also been included for rules context. If you have any kind of feedback on this section, either on the issues I have described or something else, let me know.

>>13692 First thing I notice, worth pointing outy is that fusion monster cards are not a thing in the anime until the GX era. Monsters are constantly fused spontaneously with cards the owner doesn't even have all the materials for like Joey fusing Red Eyes and Summoned Skull or Atem fusing Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon with Black Luster Soldier. Not to mention all the combinations with the Legendary Dragons

>>13703 Physical Fusion cards regularly appear in the anime. Off the top of my head I know for a fact BEUD appears in Kaiba's briefcase as a standalone card, and I also know I have seen it happen with many other cards. The Legendary Dragons aren't exactly true fusions and play by their own rules.

>>13706 I guess the anime must have added them then, since In the manga they just overlayed the fusion materials, and that is my most recent exposure to the story, but I remember it for sure didn't act like you needed the cards when fusing monsters.

>>13708 It's definitely inconsistent, particularly in Duelist Kingdom (what else is new). This wasn't what I was thinking of but you can see here it it being treated as a separate card: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YV1AN5FT_Q Compared to DK where you can cut off BEWD heads and use Monster Reborn on them separately. But yeah, I was off your opinion going into my rewatch but I have seen it repeatedly and it stuck in my mind because it conflicted on how I thought the rules worked.

>>13714 >can choose to what magic/trap/monster effect cards can effect him nta but wow what a broken effect.

>>13723 I used it to use it at locals when I was a kid. At the time it was a strong effect (not so much by today's standards where every boss monster has an omni-negate of some kind), but it is dependent on targeting it. More importantly it is one of those anime bosses that seem good, but are actually fairly complicated to get out. Of course Kaiba loses it at the end of the movie.

>>13692 I had a mild wall of text written about the separation between options that interact with the game honestly, options that change the rules or just let you cheat, and options with real world effects. But on second thought, that wasn't really going anywhere. I guess 200 CP is a good start, since it'd let you pick up Continued Support and try to keep up with everyone by just playing good. Since two options already mention normal items, I think this should be placed after the item section. >can be freed form the card Typo in Seal of Orichalcos. Second sentence of the second paragraph also seems to be missing a word. Third and fourth paragraph both mention letting unworthy duelists use the god cards. I think it feels more natural in the third, with the fourth's seeming like a non-sequitur. >Phase Deck I like this. I like this a lot. Sorry for getting ahead of myself, but will there be a "bad guy organization" option like the Ghouls/Rare Hunters or Doma?

>>13767 There will be a KaibaCorp/Industrial illusions tier business. This could be the start of something like Paradius. Doma is really hard to gauge as an organization though; although we don't see too many members, it gets off-screen hype as the group behind every bad thing that happened to human civilization ever. As for the Ghouls, I will think about it. How I would manage the cards they would have is something that might present problems. After Items makes sense to me. It is where I put the starships section in my Star Wars jump, though that is less of a builder/customization table. Thanks for the Orichalcos notes, some of that was a result of rewrites as I watched through the arc, so it got a bit messy.

>>13692 If we have a perk that allows us to use cards that aren't normally usable as Yu-Gi-Oh cards, like the Queen of Hearts, as Yu-Gi-Oh cards, can we import them as cards with the Import Cards option?

The first jumpable version of Modern Tesou Gyakuten is done. Feedback is appreciated.

>>13863 Looks good to me but there are few things missing >bike item >other OC companions

>>13955 You can get a bike from the Transportation item, and I couldn't narrow down the other OCs enough to start writing a coherent description.

Behold! Sex & Blood - Vampires! A phenomenally shitty porn game in which a futa chick fucks a bunch of hot vampire girls in the distant future of totally not cyberpunk 2077, where vampires rule the world. And because it has futa, vampires, and a bunch of nintendo OCs courtesy of Lichanon, it's also the closest thing to generic blade that yall are ever gonna get from me, because generics suck.

Here are 1.0 of Star Wars Rebels and Star Wars: Super Bombad Racing. They can be put on the drives. Rebels 1.0 Changelog: >Seeker Sister now correctly displays its discount rules. Super Bombad Racing 1.0 Changelog: >Minor grammar and formatting fixes.

>>13831 Um, I'm going to say no. If you had a perk that let you use pencils as swords, I don't think that would immediately mean your pencils are eligible for imports into sword items.

>>14045 A depressingly reasonable decision, backed up with logic, even. Ah well.

Currently fluffing the Adeleine painting perk in Kirby. It's clear that any living beings she creates are mindless drones, with stronger brings being weaker than the originals. The issue is with objects. We clearly see that food she creates is the real deal. But at various points she casually creates powerups like Maximum Tomatoes or Invincible candy. I'm not a fan of the restrictions of the current Kirby jump that ties the quality of the drawing to the quality of the creation, while also just stating that created objects are less effective to begin with. There just isn't any evidence that it works that way. At the same time, I do feel like I should do something to prevent people from painting infinite Invincible Candies. Any ideas?

Posting Enigma Of Fear here too. Pretty much feature complete now, but I'll go and touch it up before calling it 1.0. Feedback is appreciated.

Here is 1.1 of my Star Wars Rebels jump. It can be put on the drives. 1.0 Changelog: >Seeker Sister now correctly displays its discount rules. 1.1 Changelog: >Minor typo fixes.

>>14083 Huh, apparently it's not wholly without basis for created items to be less effective, since that's how it works in Star Allies.

>>14083 Make it so we can't just keep painting the same thing over and over again? Adeleine and Kirby both vary what they paint

>>13863 >>14019 So are we just reposting QQ jumps for attention or are you intending these to actually go on the drive?

>>14184 Absolutely attention. Gimmie builds, please and thank you.

>>14083 Just let people paint infinite invincible candies. It's cool.

Work on Frostpunk has started in earnest. No ETA, but it should take less than a month unless I get really burnt out.

>>14083 Starting to feel like this is a "the best solutions are often the simplest" situation. I'll just bar people from making anything more powerful than a Maximum Tomato until post-spark, and limit you to one such potent item like that a day, considering I don't think we ever see Adeleine make more than one power-up in a given stage.

>>14558 Personally I don't see the point of post-spark limitations. The time limitation is one thing and arguably you could make it harsher like once a week or even once a month, but post-spark is effectively putting in a hard ceiling. Ignoring that the idea of a spark is almost outdated since no one ever bothers to continue playing post spark.

>>14573 I get that argument. I personally like post-spark stuff, partly because it gives me a technicality I can use to include stuff that is too unbalanced to offer up-front but too significant to leave out. I also generally like the idea of giving my Jumper more to look forward to, like the spark is just a preview of what's to come. Regardless, one thing I forgot is that Adeleine straight-up creates a 1-up at one point. Considering I'm not offering 1-ups in the Jump normally, that was definitely going to be post-spark. Since I was already limiting it that far, lumping Invincible Candy in there didn't seem like much of a stretch. Fuck it, this seems like as good a time as any to lay out the full extend of my overthinking. I'm hesitant to extend the time limit. I'm trying to keep the Perk balanced while adding as few OC restrictions as possible, but since this is a capstone, my hands are tied in how much I can charge for it. It's not outright impossible that Kirby 64 spans multiple weeks, but it's very unlikely. Since Adeleine is the one making the picnic they eat at the end of every world, which outright confirms that she can make multiple power-up items in a given day. The original Jump restricts the perk in three ways which I previously complained about, but on closer inspection there is at least somewhat of a justification. 1. The quality of the drawing affects the quality of the creation -> Adeleine is clearly quite good at drawing and came to Popstar specifically to improve her skills. 2. Creations are always short-lived -> We never see Adeleine create anything that isn't a consumable or quickly defeated. 3. Creations are slightly weaker than the real thing -> drawings of bossess are clearly weaker, but in Kirby Star Allies, painted food explicitly heals less. It's not an airtight justification, and I'd prefer not to use these, but they are an option. Alternatively, maybe I should just add a large undiscounted plus-charge to be able to create power-up items (sans 1-ups). I also considered making it so you can only create creatures or objects that already exists in the current world. That would synergize well with the purchase that makes it so Kirby power-ups will appear in future worlds. I do have plenty of options. I'm just trying to be extra careful, because I am well aware that this is the perk I want more than anything else in the Jump for my own Chain. My initial impulse for any options I personally favor is to be strict with the price and limitations. I figured it's better to be too strict than to let my obvious bias turn that option into blatant OTB.

>>5498 Most of the way through book 7. I'd like to request confirmation that the immortal soul that you kill your mortal soul to give birth to is, in fact, you, and not someone with all your memories and mostly the same personality. I don't wanna bottleneck at that stage due to the uncertainty, like some of the locals do.

>>14614 Adeleine's gimmick really isn't that problematic. jumps aren't games, you have to think past the gameplay limitations into the lore. Sure, she could spam power up items but that mostly just means that her own survivability goes up by a little bit until they wear off/are used up. In contrast if you take the one minigame seriously Kirby can just karate chop the entire planet in half and zero can just spread dark matter throughout the universe like a plague and they just have This kind of power at all times, both could just avoid her bumping into them while invincible and attack in the second between one candy wearing off and her popping another one. Really, you should be thinking more like "can adeleine just paint a master crown to wear?". Needing the stuff you paint to already exist in the jump is a fine enough limitation. Also how are you going to handle the dimension mirror?

>>14614 >I also considered making it so you can only create creatures or objects that already exists in the current world. Please don't. Painting is about creativity, just make them weaker. Why should I be barred from making lesser Cracko in other settings just because he doesn't exist there?

>>14639 >you have to think past the gameplay limitations into the lore The thing with Kirby splitting a planet could be written off as hyperbole, or the general fairytale logic this whole setting follows. Power-ups are in-universe objects that she's frequently shown creating. I can't just write that off as exaggeration. If anything, the video game logic makes it weaker, since Kirby can't hold onto powerups for later, they have to eat them the instant they're provided. It's the idea of stockpiling hundreds of OP powerups in advance that makes it busted. Regardless, maybe you're right and I'm just making things harder on myself for no reason. >Also how are you going to handle the dimension mirror? That won't be covered in this Jump. I decided to break this into three Jumps: >Part 1 (Retro Era): Dreamland - Nightmare in Dreamland (+Super Star Ultra) >Part 2 (Experimental Era): Air Ride - Mass Attack (+Rainbow Curse) >Part 3 (Return Era): Return to Dreamland - Star Allies I don't have any specific ideas for the Dimension Mirror beyond just slapping a large-ish price tag on it. >>14642 Then I'll have it so anything exceptionally powerful is weaker than the original. That's already how living creations work.

>>14646 >Then I'll have it so anything exceptionally powerful is weaker than the original. That's already how living creations work. Sounds good.

1.0 version of Enigma Of Fear. If there aren't any problems, it can be put on the drive.

>>14696 Thanks for the jump!

>>14696 Looks good, man! You taking a break after this, or is there another jump on the docket?

>>15197 Taking a break. Still have tests to do and today was particularly exhausting, inbetween the bullshit test and just general life shit. We nearly got taken out by a fucking truck tire on the drive home of all things. I'll probably finish rereading 7th Prince though, and maybe start work on Kemono Giga again.

>>15287 >spoiler The hell? Did it just pop off and bounce towards you or something? Glad you're alright, man.

>>15303 It did in fact pop right off. Flew into the air, and landed right in front of us, and it's only because my mother slowed down hearing the damn thing fall off that it didn't land right on us. Also helps that it landed flat and didn't roll, which would have made it unavoidable. Still nearly had an accident regardless because some other asshole driver decided to position himself in such a way that we were basically forced on a near-collision course with the damn thing. Moral of the story here is that truck drivers are shit, don't give a flying fuck about your life or your safety, and they WILL do shit or cause shit via sheer apathy for maintaining their vehicles that will get you hurt or worse.

>>15309 You could probably exchange "truck" in that sentence with pretty much any other vehicle and it would still work. People a shit.

>>9550 Sure. I also always give the option to choose your age for free >>10660 The Neverending wine pot is mostly regen and less dantian widening Also the Neverending wine pot is something you have to constantly do in the background, while the dantian widening you do in sessions. >>14638 I universe it's not even that clear for the nascent soul cultivators It's more like a small death than a true one. In this metamorphosis your soul will fuse and be submerged. Metaphorically speaking your soul will become your purpose/your Dao that you realized. But yes, I willake a note regarding it and immortality, maybe even add a perk

>>15586 Update (currently reading book 9/12)

>>15586 >The Neverending wine pot is mostly regen and less dantian widening ... I had to go back to book three to check because I was really sure that Never Empty Wine Pot was a dantian widening thing. Turns out I was misremembering that section. Elder Ko offering the protagonist a choice between a technique for increasing his chi flow, widening his dantian, or increasing how fast his chi regenerates. Thanks for the update

>>15588 One more request. Can you give us the option to grab a normal living world spirit ring with the spirit ring item, like what the protagonist thought he was buying from the auction?

>>15626 Sure I'll make that an alternative option for the 400cp price point

>>15630 Thanks

>>15588 I just got to chapter 15 of book 8, and apparently Heart of the Sword is actually what you need to start manifesting blades out of pure chi

>>15653 Yes/no I have to rework that part On the one hand every energy projection cultivator can make a blade or tool out of pure chi, but on the other hand that is also supposedly something that is a feature of the heart of the weapon Although that Pan child prodigy with the heart of the Jian is at body cleanser level and he doesn't ever show the ability to project his blade Correct me if I'm wrong/keep me updated as you read along please Kind off nice having a little bookclub going on here

>>15655 >Although that Pan child prodigy with the heart of the Jian is at body cleanser level and he doesn't ever show the ability to project his blade That does make sense, as you don't actually get the ability to project your chi until Energy Storage. His attacks are noted to be supernaturally sharp when he's fighting the snake people though. Annoyingly, it never says how strong the snake men are. Pan Chen IS apparently able to fight on the same battlefield as peak energy storage cultivators while still being a Body Cleansing stage cultivator though

>>15661 Yeah weapon heart is awesome and weapon soul seems to be absolutely broken, hence the expensive price option

>>15676 Honestly, Weapon Soul might be a bit underpriced? At this point it's been mentioned as something that's unfathomably rare, whose power is something that's only ever talked about in fables and legends, said to be able to slice apart mountains and kill nascent soul cultivators in a single cut If the actual thing lives up to the hype then that'd easily be the most powerful option available in the jump

>>15682 I think 600 cp is fair (remember there's no discount in that section) as while this is extremely useful and powerful it doesn't give you the breath of powers and abilities a core formation level purchase (also 600 cp flat out) A single strike of a soul of sword body cleanser could kill a core formation elder, but the core formation guy is faster stronger, has advanced senses, can fly on his sword, has tons of utility techniques etc. I do believe a soul of weapon body cleanser could defeat a core formation cultivator, but it's more of a one trick pony purchase. I am playing with the idea of offering the true world spirit ring for 800cp instead of 600cp however That shit is broken

>>15692 >That shit is broken The fun thing is that the ring isn't all that useful for most people in-setting, due to it requiring a lot of knowledge of herb gathering and herb farming alongside constant attention and chi-flow micromanaging to keep it growing and functional The micromanaging actually gets harder the bigger the thing grows, since you have to actively manage the entire ecosystem, altering everything to take into account new plants, animals, minerals, and resources you put in it. There was a point where the protagonist had to stop his ring's growth to rework his garden because the thing was just barely in his ability to manage. I'd say leave the price alone. The Genius Of Your Craft perk seems like it'd let you learn how to make the rings themselves, and if you increase the price then it'd make buying the ring cost the same amount as learning how to make them. You could also nerf the item a bit and add in a more expensive tier? While a true world spirit ring is said to eventually grow big enough to hold a world, Elder Li doubted the protagonist's would be able to reach that size due to material limitations I just noticed that the auctioneer outright said the name of the guy that made the ring, but later the protagonist said the auctioneer didn't say anything about the ring's origins.

>>15701 >The Genius Of Your Craft perk seems like it'd let you learn how to make the rings themselves That PLUS having a Dao of space(time) and that last part is an absolute necessity apparently

>>15713 I'd assume that skill with smithing would come with some knowledge of the Dao of Space. If not, then that's something you can just learn in-setting. Probably pretty easily too, as spirit rings are rather common in the protagonist's starting kingdom, and the Verdant Waters Sect literally has a primer book on the dao of space and spirit ring forging, written by Er Hu, the guy who made the protagonist's ring

I love xianxia.... when it's written by a western author. Chinese stuff that's been translated is universally inflated garbage.

>>15719 Most western xianxia stuff is pretty garbage too.

>>15718 I will make an extensive note section regarding Dao, "choosing" or finding your Dao and Dao based, infused or backed up techniques as well as elemental techniques. while it is theoretically possible to perform techniques/artacks/enchantments that are based on a certain Dao that is not YOUR Dao, it is very difficult and can backfire for strong techniques (see WU Ying trying to perform his masters sword tech based on his Dao of severing karmic connections, something WU Ying doesn't believe in). That problem exaserbates for stronger techniques as well as for greater differences in Daos (WU Ying saw complex spacetime jutsu being performed in book 9 and was unable to grasp the concept at all desp already having spent quite some time reading up on the matter for his ring) Maybe there will also just be a perk option for just decidedly choosing your Dao

>>15723 I literally just got to the point of book 8 where he specifically elaborates that spacial items can only be made by Core and Nascent Soul level cultivators ... Which makes the suggestion that he go visit the smithing part of his sect if he wanted a new spirit ring to be a bit weird, since IIRC his sect only had a handful of Core level cultivators? >(see WU Ying trying to perform his masters sword tech based on his Dao of severing karmic connections, something WU Ying doesn't believe in). That was explicitly said to be the heavens itself directly punishing him for using a Dao that was so antithetical to his view of the world I'm still annoyed that the strongest feat shown so far was the result of the protagonist fucking up his understanding of the dao so hard that he basically broke reality, cutting through everything in a line thousands of li long. The next time he uses that attack it didn't even cut all the way through the cultivator he was using it on, since he'd managed to understand the attack better > (WU Ying saw complex spacetime jutsu being performed in book 9 and was unable to grasp the concept at all desp already having spent quite some time reading up on the matter for his ring) Huh. When did he start actually research the Dao of Space? I know he was doing research on his ring back in book five, but I thought he didn't keep up the research since Elder Ko told him about how his ring works. I know the dude mentioned not having much knowledge of the Dao of Space in book 6 when looking for techniques to improve his qinggong, as one of the reasons why he didn't take the Thousand Li Step technique

>>14646 Out of curiosity, are you planning to have one wide covering villain origin, or multiple to cover Dark Matter along with the likes of Marx and Nightmare? Also, will there be a perk for a Soul form?

>>15741 Definitely going to have to pick up that dry orgasm breathing technique the protagonist uses

I think it's finally starting to click why I've been having so much trouble with Kirby compared to most Jumps. I usually have a pretty clear idea of what each purchase does when I write them in the Skeleton, but here there are a lot of options where I didn't have anything more than a vague concept. So for every 10 minutes I spend fluffing, I'm wasting multiple hours trying to figure out how to even turn these notes into perks, and if I can't figure it out I need to come up with a replacement then and there. Like, this is nothing new. I have to do this once or twice for almost every Jump I make, but here's it's been practically every other perk. Well, I guess lesson learned going forward, don't half-ass the skeleton. >>15757 >Out of curiosity, are you planning to have one wide covering villain origin, or multiple to cover Dark Matter along with the likes of Marx and Nightmare? I'm lumping all those together into one "Enemy" origin, which also includes various miscellaneous enemies that lack any lore. It's actually funny you ask that, since I just started on that and it's the last origin I have to fluff. >Also, will there be a perk for a Soul form? There will be.

>>15912 >Enemy origin Works for me, as long as I still get to do crazy eldritch stuff like creating Dark Matter or splitting myself in half to attack my enemy or the like. >There will be. Excellent

>>15741 So out of several clues and statements we can gather that in order to make even simple storage rings you need to be a masterful Smith at atleast core level with the Dao of space or atleast high understanding of it. According to some passages the few individuals that fit the criteria are heavily heavily secluded and guarded by their sects As I understood the part with wu yings new sword strike: he knew he couldn't actually perform a technique based on a Dao that wasn't his, so he tried to adapt it, but he lacked understanding of his own Dao, hurt reality as a result and was then punished by the heavens, no? Anyway I think it's pretty clear that your Dao is pretty influential regarding what kind of directly Dao backed feat you're able to perform, wouldn't you say? Wu Ying mentions that he tries really hard wanting to understand space daos but he's too peasant brained for these lofty concepts >>15795 Oh yeah thanks for reminding me. That will definitely be a technique free of charge Bois, I just ran a 5k (sub 30min yay!) during a buisness run and now I'm slightly drunk. I'll answer more complex cultivation questions tomorrow (reminder: this is the first xianxia/cultivation series I ever read so I'm really grateful for feedback/corrections etc)

A form rotund and soft Pink face, blue eyes, a gaze not shy Do count yourself their friend They eat, they bounce, they sleep, they cry: “Poyo” A form corrupt and dark Black fumes, one eye, malice they gleam They eat all that you are They fight, they die, they bleed, they scream: “Poyo” You have nothing to fear The pink is pure, no pretense, all true You may giggle with them They do love you, you love them too. “Poyo”

>>15951 Looks good, friend.

>>15951 Nice! Will read soon.

>>15951 p o y o o p o y y o p o o y o p

>>15951 Nicely done amigo

>>15951 Can I use the Copied Ability option to get a version of Ribbon's Crystal that I can use without having to physically carry someone else?

>>15723 >(WU Ying saw complex spacetime jutsu being performed in book 9 and was unable to grasp the concept at all desp already having spent quite some time reading up on the matter for his ring) Just got to book nine, and it amuses me greatly that the innkeeper's daughter is very blatantly using the two movement techniques the protagonist didn't pick up in book 6, the Thousand Li Step and Forester's Path It makes a lot of sense too, since the girl's parents are rather benevolent people that spread around their skill to weaker cultivators and have been doing it for an unknown amount of time Speaking of which, how about a perk that lets us reverse engineer enchantments into techniques, based on the protagonist's Never Empty Wine Pot technique being based on a literal Never Empty Wine Barrel

>>15965 Technically yes, but it will be MUCH weaker, considering the full crystal is a 600 CP item.

>>15951 Congrats on finishing the jump.

Thinking about it, the only reason I was so insistent on making Necrophosis my next Jump is because I had plans to use it early in my next Chain. Since I'm letting go of that plan, there really isn't any rush to work on any specific Jump next. Haven't decided what I want to work on next, I have plenty of options, but it's still a weight off my shoulders to go back to making whatever I want whenever I want. >>15951 I was so caught up on making the poem I actually forgot to brag about this being my 100th Jump.

>>15986 Congrats on the century buddy!

>>15951 Great jump, Gene! And congrats on your 100th jump!

>>15951 For Dimensional Slash, if you had Star Power on par with Galacta Knight, could you pull off his Dimensional Slash feats right away, or would you still need to train in order to pull those off?

>>15986 >100 jumps That's a lot. Congrats on completing so many of 'em.

>>16000 Right away. You can think of it as having done all that training offscreen.

>>16002 Sweet, thanks, Gene.

>>15951 thank you gene! this jump is great. only thing i'm maybe iffy about is the corruption stuff being a darkmatter species exclusive instead of a standalone perk but eh. will you put a corruption perk in the other kirby jumps?

>>16021 I was considering it, but the more I thought about it, I don't know if we've seen Dark Matter "corrupt" anyone without directly possessing them. So naturally that's how the Perk would work if it was standalone. And if the corruption follows ghost rules, you're basically just a Dark Matter already.

>>16021 Oh, forgot about the second part of that. I may make it a separate Perk in future Jumps, I may not. I don't have any concrete plans for those Jumps yet. There will likely be perks for corrupting reality via art magic, so it might not be much of a stretch to make a standalone corruption perk, but I won't promise anything this early on.

>>16024 >>16025 i ask because while there is a still a lot more instances of corruption to go (dark daroach, sectonia, magolor, the jamba heart stuff) i think zero two still has the best showing of it in the series from being able to just blorb ripplestar. i guess if i'm to be a bit more specific i want corruption that works on both living beings(not just mentally but changing them physically too) and the environment, i don't really care for the theme of it, wheter it's dark stuff, art stuff or the cyberization from robobot, in fact it's probably better if a hypothetical corruption perk is independent from theme, i just really want to run around making everything mine.

>>16032 Well, I don't know how exactly it's going to work, but there will most likely be something along those lines in future parts.

>>16036 thank you gene.

>>16032 To be fair, I'd place solid odds on Dark Nebula and the Master Crown being connected to Dark Matter in some form or fashion. I think some Kirby encyclopedia hinted at a connection between Dark Matter and Dark Nebula, and given how the Master Crown reforms Magolor's body into something resembling Dark Matter's typical forms, that seems solid, too. And Void Termina is 100% connected to Dark Matter, given its true form. Of that last, only Sectonia is unconnected to Dark Matter in any way, unless you make the argument that the reason why the Dimension Mirror corrupted her is because some part of Dark Mind was still lingering in there.

>>15986 >100th Jump Impressive Congratulations

oWoD: Mortals is on track for being finished this weekend. I've made such progress on finishing off the various World of Darkness jumps that I'm considering branching out to finishing off other big name /tg/ settings that are still missing some jumps. After I finish Mortals, what jump would people prefer to see next? >Alara >Antiquities >Birthright >Changeling: The Dreaming >Chaos Daemons (40k) >Chaos Daemons (Fantasy) >Chaos Space Marines >Deviant: The Renegades >Dwarfs (+ Chaos Dwarfs) >Empire of Man >Forgotten Realms >Generic Pulp Adventure >Gothic Victorian >Hunter: The Reckoning >Ice Age >Mirrodin >Mummy: The Resurrection >Odyssey/Onslaught >Orks >Planescape >Ravinca >Sorcerer's Crusade >Spelljammer >Urza's Saga >Vampire Counts >Weatherlight Saga >Werewolf: The Apocalypse (the Fera)