>>20242 There's a thing called AI and automation Actually immigrants are more needed in fields like nursing and construction, their demand isn't gonna change much. If anything the source countries are at risk of potentially having to deal with more unemployed unhappy people with little to no safety net, it'd probably breed unrest in those countries unless something radical changes > An oversupply of such grunt labour will lead to immigrant people willing to work for lesser than the minimum wage, and reduce the chances of them forming labour unions, thus tilting the labour market in the favour of these manufacturers. That's literally been happening since the last 4 decades, congrats you figured out mass migration >>20254 > But this is absolutely far far away from bringing in machines and actually using aliens Yeah I'm also skeptical of the extent they can do this outside of strategic industries, tariffs and shit are only an artificial makeshift, without an encompassing national industrial policy nothing is fundamentally changing and we know the elites don't care for anything but their own gain. So short term this may work to get a few votes/manipulate economic indicators whatever but it's gonna come bite their asses again inevitably

>>22662 I would rather have AI build a house than a crew of illegals

>>20242 Illegal Immigration in US due to reshoring of manufacturing? wrong, is the "free" money, CBP one and humanitarian parol, old working immigrants was due the decoupling of USD to the standard gold-Breton woods, the balance in salaries in the entire world was demolished, example is better payed to pull up a onion in USA than Mexico or Nigeria in Europe do the same shit with the "Euro fiat", and "free money" to the rapefugees, if money return to real working class and solve the income balance with a standard (gold-silver), the billionaires will start to flop and money will start to flow down, more native child's will spring and less immigrants will be needed.

>>23720 The graph is about Mexican flowing towards USA, it started since USD-Fiat born in the 70's, the great thief of gold reserves to win the cold war was the initial spark, the fall of USSR was the second spark towards China grow and billionaires (wealth black holes), so now we are here, another cold war?, another sino-anglo war (opium wars)?

>>22662 >Actually immigrants are more needed in fields like nursing and construction retarded memes immigrants are NEEDED absolutely nowhere

I always find these post funny because when people think manufacturing they think of simple assembly line work, or just running machines and packing up boxes all day. Those jobs are absolutely filled, and most of the workers are part time retired or just old people. After that you have mid level cnc up to high level cnc work that happens in job shops and require teams of people in the 110-130 iq range to get stuff together quickly, designed, programed, set up and produced, in order to secure a nice margin on the job. These jobs are tough, underpaid, and cannot, absolutely cannot be done by beaners, even the Chinese are known for pumping out 50,000 parts loads without quality controlling through out the process, and shipping unusable crap. For a brief moment there it was cheaper to import shitty Chinese parts and fix them, but that ended under the first trump administration. I've even seen work get shipped to Mexico, then come back because they couldn't even master filling a plastic mold correctly. Something that takes an average American around 2 months to master. Believe me guys, when the boomers all retire (3 years to go), expect care parts to go to 8 week lead times, among many, many, many other things.

>>26868 >boomers didnt train their replacements from their countrymen because they were too busy shipping jobs overseas and wealth hording Have you thanked a boomer for kicking the ladder out behind them?

>>26928 Baby boomers do all the Profit, and want all of their grandson's do it for a chinese salarie in USA soil, COVID do the mayor damage around the world, even seat 100% european spanish men build cars, start to "noise" in their plastic parts, many old fags were lay off during those years, any COVID part Is a shit tier vs a 2019 part, even Toyota parts start to flop hard in their motors Made in USA Alabama

Indians have been absolutely flooding the West for decades. They're the largest source of immigrants to Anglosphere countries collectively. The other is China, but while China might be slowing down, Indians are going up and up.

>>27862 We got swamped by Asians a decade ago Next decade it’ll be Africans as they get highest birth rates Immigration comes in waves

>>27862 If we could expunge the Pajeet and Spic menance we'd be doing great

>>27885 Do You really not recognize shnotz on that concerned young democrat? Do You Hans?

>>27885 >>27889 Indian and Chinese immigration was high before and it's still damn high. The Jews are not going to bring in too many Africans to the Anglosphere because half the reason for them wanting so many damn Hindus and Han Chinese is because they're good little pawns. They want more Indians and it will be a few decades before that stops in the Anglosphere. They've already flooded several Arab and EU countries and are increasingly flooding Japan and Korea.

>>27885 >curly hair >long nose >eyes close together Dysgenic and off putting character in that vid. >>27935 It really is every single time huh?

>>27862 Merged

>>20242 hicks are slowly starting to realize that asians are more cutthroat and lazy than even they are

>>20242 Is there really such a demand for low-skilled illegals in manufacturing? Any modern plant will be heavily automated and the people who still need to run the place will have an IQ level above that of the average illegal fruit picker.

Just stay the fuck in ainfia poojeet

>>20250 >The awkward detail here though is that it would likely be easier for them to create more workers by incentivizing higher birthrates The declining birthrates are a demographic crisis for almost every first world country. Japan is having this problem even more than the US for example, Italy as well, and Russia especially. All of these places have different governments who are trying, and failing, to fix this problem. 'Incentivizing higher birthrates' is easier said than done. Anyway, to OP's point. There's actually a lot of jobs open in manufacturing each year in the US. The 'labor shortage' that Mike Rowe is always whining about. The problem is these job openings are for menial work that doesn't pay well.

>>31996 >Any modern plant will be heavily automated That's a technology illiterate misunderstand of the unfathomable anfractuous complexity of hoe things work and come into being. Everything still need human hands to be either put together, tested, overseen, for logistics, management, H. R. et al., etc., ad infinitum. The "You von't work, sit in zi pod, drool as you vatch zi animu pron bought with zi UBIbux, und be happy" meme is there to push investors into related technologies; not because they have technology anywhere near what would be required to create a human-free mine-to-mailbox process. NB: We ain't going to Mars in our lifetimes, nor in the lifetimes of anyone who will ever know us as their predecessors. That, and even if we could reach a point where humans could be removed from the workforce process line, would you really want such a society--in the context of the teeming masses comprised of mostly "useless eaters" who simply cannot do anything beyond simple, menial tasks?... SPOILER: (You) would would NOT. Unless the education system and culture were root and branch ausrotten and rebuilt to suit such a no-work society, moving to it would collapse it faster than the Jonestown mass-injecting of Transhuman juices almost just did.

>>20242 The industrial capitalists in the US NEED immigration. Desperately. There are millions of open jobs in the US and no available workers. But legal immigration is absurdly hard and tedious, because the far-right mouth breathers hate all foreigners and the US politicians win their elections by pandering to that sentiment. Trump would only be making the labor shortage worse IF he had the intention to build a manufacturing sector in the US. So far I have seen no sign that he has such an intention. Only talk. And Trump talks a lot when the day is long.

The only solution I see for any effort to bring manufacturing back to the US on a level competitive with foreign labor pools is a massive expansion of the prison/industrial complex and integration of manufacturing jobs with it. Pretty much a dystopian hellscape, but would allow (Hello, I just arrived from Cuckchan, please bully me)s to live a typical American-tier lifestyle outside the prisons while slave labor inside manufactures the goods required. This would of course require massive amounts of automation as well as an expansion of the prison population, possibly separate accommodations within the prison system for those willing to take on advanced manufacturing jobs, separating them from the general prison population of rapemeat and psychopaths. I loathe the very idea of it. As an aside, this board is heavily catalog-dependent. Possibly a result of so few users. I just keep seeing the same crap threads at the top over and over.

>>20242 like hindoos or slants are any better when they're at the borders doing even worse shit

>>33682 >The only solution I see for any effort to bring manufacturing back to the US on a level competitive with foreign labor pools is a massive expansion of the prison/industrial complex and integration of manufacturing jobs with it. As absurd as that idea seems on face value, it's likely one of the only overnight methods of doing it. People think manufacturing can just be "brought back", after the chinks have been stealing it for over three decades. However, it's not only all the process lines and logistics which have to be relocated; it's the people who do the work who are most needed, and to undertake oftentimes menial, rote tasks, and at a salary that will make the products competitive on the market. This translates to slave wages. That is how China did it -- on the backs of tens of millions of slave labourers; those who would literally migrate across the expanse of the country to live in worker dorms for the majority of a year... I'm talking 17th Century tier peasants who still buy their wives from markets, being trained up to sit / stand at the process lines, 16 hours per diem, to make all that Wallmutt junk. So, to do a domestic manufacturing Marshall Plan, they would first either have to raise wages to a point where people could afford the higher costed products being made locally -- including paying the workers making those products enough for them to also buy those products -- which would result in hyper-inflation... Or they must use slaves, which could only reasonably come from the penal industrial complex.

>>20242 >This got me thinking, is the reason for US borders becoming open and porous recently and an influx of immigrants being allowed to enter the States a result of a projected demand for factory grunt workers? Nope - It makes politicians rich to give money to these NGOs that bring immigrants into the country. The primary purpose is to divide the population and erode our rights as citizens. Modern immigrants are mostly all from the third-world and don't add any real value to a first-world nation that is declining rapidly. Furthermore, the U.S. has had open borders for more than 30 years. It's just gotten worse and never better. Ronald Regan, the President Republicans always like to suck off gave amnesty to illegals in the fucking 1980's. >We all know that the US will never be able to competitively manufacture locally if the lowest level workers demand minimum wage, labour rights, etc. The whole trade war with China is just dumb. The U.S. was not being taken advantage of by buying Chinese goods at a good price. I think either Trump is retarded or he is working on the right to also diminish U.S. power in the world. Think about it: If a Democrat did what Trump is doing right now they would be called a communist. With Trump were told to stay calm and not to worry because the stock market will jump back any day now. >An oversupply of such grunt labour will lead to immigrant people willing to work for lesser than the minimum wage, and reduce the chances of them forming labour unions, thus tilting the labour market in the favour of these manufacturers. Yes, this does make sense and it could be the actual goal they want. Instead of competing with China as they claim they are doing now with stupid shit like A.I. they will only make rich people richer they are creating a peon worker class to control and profit from.

>>33925 > The U.S. was not being taken advantage of by buying Chinese goods at a good price That's a retardedly simplistic take, because it does not factor in that 90% of that wealth went to building up the CCP military, which now can challenge the West with impunity -- as it knows that we value our lives and culture, while commie insectoid chinks are expendable and/or need to be expended somehow (what better way than in war?). That, and giving manufacturing to the lowest bidders lowered forced the lowering of product qualify the world over. No longer can you buy a car of washer that lasts a lifetime -- freeing up your money for a home or vacations -- because planned obsolescence was baked into this Faustian bargain made for cheap shit. So, now you're forever wasting your goybux on replacing the same shit for new shit that will break down in a fraction of the time it did before. Even more importantly, you have a whole smorgasbord of problems issuing from how having less meaningful work and lower wages affects the very fabric of society... All consequence which you greedy, myopic goys were warned about in the 1990s -- by a corporate raider kike, no less! O, the irony... https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s

Americans want manufacturing back simply because they are nostalgic for the golden era of the U.S. when a single man in the family working a manufacturing job was able to buy a house, a car, and raise a family plus a dog. Americans' problem is not that they are now a consumer instead of a maker, but how they are being forced to become a bigger consumer. In terms of material improvement, Americans consume 25% of the world's resources and are responsible for 30% of the world's waste. They use better, more expensive transportation, live in bigger houses, have the highest quality hospital in the world, have the best university in the world, and can eat out every day and afford McDonald's, which is considered a luxury in many places. The problem? They are forced to, because they have no choice. All the lower cost, economical options are banned, leaving them with only the luxury option. Japan can have practical and economical kei cars, in America they are banned. Other countries can have duplexes or other forms of practical housing, in America you can't, thanks to zoning laws. The chinks eat rice which is high in energy density instead of meat, they drive in slow as shit shitboxes or e-bikes, they live in high density housing with smaller living rooms. It was these cheap options that allowed them to have a savings rate of over 30% compared to America which has less than 5% despite earning 9 times less.

>>33925 They call everyone communist. They're Americans. Dumb like a bag of rocks.

>>33934 Our economies are different as we have a service and consumerist debt based economy. We made money from those Chinese goods and instead of investing into the country like China did, we spent it on even more Chinese goods, and increased the debt. I don't know the current statistics exactly, I suppose I could look it up, but the last time I checked the U.S. had 100 trillion in private debt and 25 trillion in government debt. Do you really think making t-shirts or Trump flags is going to be a big win for American manufacturing? None of those jobs pay enough to cover the cost of what people are willing to pay to have those products. The war drum is about increasing profits for the rich and military industrial complex. They did the same thing with Russia during the cold war by making them out to be the boogeyman everyone needs to fear. The same is happening now with China. They are setting up a system to which the top percent profit from and control the majority. None of our politicians in the west sit up at night worrying about a Chinese or Russian invasion. I'm not saying that can't happen but if that was their concern, would the U.S. send 30% of all American anti-missile systems to Israel to protect a country the size of New York city? Would Europe be sending weapons to Ukraine instead of holding onto them for self-defense? The fabric of society was fucked in the 1920's with a Jewish campaign to get women to smoke their torches of freedom. It's all gone down hill with feminist bullshit ever since. We have only fans whores spreading their pussies out for the world to see for 10 bucks and yet we still don't have open and legal prostitution because the Christians say it's just too immoral. The real reason is because the pussy stock would plummet if guys could get a good suck and fuck from 8/10 for 250 bucks an hour. Instead of flooding only fans these whores would flood the streets. That's your fabric of society I'm most sure they are most concerned about. Everything they do is for control and they don't actually give a shit about society. Did you really not know this? What a dumbass. But hey, at least Israel is standing strong, right?

>>34800 >still don't have open and legal prostitution because the Christians say it's just too immoral. The real reason is because the pussy stock would plummet if guys could get a good suck and fuck from 8/10 for 250 bucks an hour you can't have this because niggers would spread aids like crazy you'd have to get rid of the niggers first, and possibly the bisexual fags then you can have open prostitution

Thought this article was a little funny since it's NOT about the U.S.: >Government tightens rules to prevent illegal work by foreign students archive.ph/tlkIR <The Ministry of Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation (MHESI) has introduced new regulations to prevent foreign students from using short courses as a cover for illegal work in Thailand. Effective immediately, all institutions must submit their short course curricula for review. <Minister Supamas Isarabhakdi said on Thursday that these guidelines aim to ensure foreign students in Thailand comply with legal standards and the agreements between MHESI and the Immigration Bureau. <She said the regulations impose strict measures on institutions, including curriculum quality, management of foreign students and continuous reporting to the ministry.

>>20242 Do not work. Do not buy. Do not sell. Do not trade. Collapse the economy and society. After the extermination of the elites, we can rebuild it.

>Washington Post: New Colorado Law Enhances State Protections for at-Risk Immigrants archive.ph/hveZG <Colorado strengthened its protections for immigrants on Friday, adopting legislation that reinforces its unwillingness to cooperate with the Trump administration’s mass deportation campaign even as the president wields lawsuits and funding cuts in bids to bend blue jurisdictions to his will. <The bill was signed with no fanfare by Gov. Jared Polis, a Democrat who has walked a careful line during Donald Trump’s second term when it comes to illegal immigration, arguing for legal pathways while saying he welcomed federal help to deport dangerous criminals. Among other measures, the legislation prevents jails from delaying a defendant’s release for the purpose of immigration enforcement and prohibits local governments from providing individuals’ personal information to federal immigration authorities. <“To be clear, state and local law enforcement cannot be commandeered to enforce federal civil immigration laws and taken away from fighting crime,” Polis said in a statement. But he also emphasized the ways the new provisions still allow for cooperation with federal agencies. “We are deeply committed to working with our federal partners and will continue to fully participate in federal task forces that take down criminals.” >Prestigious Universities Pressured: Exclusion of Foreign Students Will Be a Self-Inflicted Loss for U.S. archive.ph/NPKlb <The Trump administration announced that it will revoke the national certification required for Harvard University to accept foreign students. The university will no longer be able to accept new foreign students, and current international students will lose their status to stay in the United States unless they transfer to another university. <Harvard University is one of the top universities not only in the United States but also in the world. It accepts students and researchers from more than 140 countries and regions, including 260 Japanese students this school year. <Regarding the latest measure, the U.S. Homeland Security Department issued a statement saying, “Let this serve as a warning to all universities and academic institutions across the country,” suggesting the possibility of imposing the same measure on other universities in the future. It is inevitable that uneasiness and anxiety will spread across the country. <The administration cited Harvard University’s allowing the promotion of “antisemitism” on campus and its acceptance of individuals associated with the Chinese Communist Party who have been involved in the suppression of ethnic minorities, as reasons for banning the admission of foreign students. >Visa Overstays Make Up Almost 40% Of Illegal US Entries archive.ph/RA75Z <The share of people becoming undocumented immigrants in the United States not by illegally crossing a border, but by overstaying their visas was almost 40 percent of estimated new undocumented immigrants in the fiscal year 2023. <While an estimated 860,000 new undocumented arrivals were created due to illegal border crossings that year, more than 510,000 people overstayed their visas. <This fact has in the past called into question the effectiveness of sealing off borders to curb illegal immigration. During the first Trump term, when the construction of a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border took central stage, the number of overstayers even slightly outnumbered that of illegal crossers. Now, the Trump administration is also attacking on the other front, this weekend warning Indians not to overstay U.S. visas or risk lifetime bans to the country. <As Statista's Katharina Buchholz reports, the absolute number of Indian visa overstayers in FY of 2023 was around 19,000 - rank 7 among nations, but the highest-ranking non-Latin American or Caribbean country. In FY 2016, this was still as high as 25,000 people. <The stock of undocumented Indian immigrants was most recently estimated at 725,000 people - rank 3 after Mexico and El Salvador. <In terms of illegal crossers (calculated based on the most recent data on border encounters), Latin American countries and Haiti made up the top 10 of the most common nationalities illegally crossing the Southern U.S. border, with Mexicans making up almost a third of all illegal crossers. <The prevalence of the different modes of illegal immigration has been changing in the last two decades.

>>44182 get a job retard, the economy can function just fine with 1 idiot making life worse for himself.

>Trump guts digital ID rules, claims they help 'illegal aliens' commit fraud archive.ph/lSSxo <In his last few days in office, President Biden signed a executive order (EO) focused on cybersecurity that aimed to eliminate the use of stolen and fake identities by criminal gangs, because they are used to "systemically defraud public benefits programs costs taxpayers and wastes Federal Government funds." <To accomplish this goal, Biden’s presidential mandate directed federal agencies to work with states to develop and issue mobile driver's licenses and the infrastructure needed to verify these types of digital ID cards. <Trump’s order wipes out a section of the Biden order, titled "Solutions to Combat Cybercrime and Fraud". <... <President Trump’s reasoning for axing the digital identity section of Biden's directive reflects a belief that digital IDs make it easier for immigrants to access welfare payments, so don’t prevent fraud and cybercrime. <The White House said it is "removing a mandate for US government issued digital IDs for illegal aliens that would have facilitated entitlement fraud and other abuse." >Trump Travel Ban, Restrictions Go Into Effect On 19 Nations archive.ph/B7yKN <A travel ban signed by President Donald Trump has gone into effect, barring nationals from 12 countries from entering the United States and restricting entry by nationals from seven others. <The ban, instituted through a presidential proclamation rather than an executive order, went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on June 9. As a proclamation, it isn’t legally binding but signals a shift in federal policy. <A total of 12 countries face complete bans under the proclamation, including Afghanistan, Chad, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Burma (also known as Myanmar), the Republic of the Congo, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen. <People from these nations are barred from entering the United States for immigration or other reasons.