>>43744 >Do you think Communism/Socialism/Fascism is bad? Yes. It's never worked anywhere it has ever been tried, and only ever makes the problem that it's trying to "address" a thousand times worse. Need look no further than how you guys keep trying to frame it as an "improved" version of the same system but with a different name without ever addressing the very fact that the system you're trying to implement is flawed from the start. You're basing it upon the principles that the world is "flawed" from the start and that it's "man's job" to fix it.

>>43745 See, that wasn't too hard, you could have just said that instead of deflecting with that >le paid post bullshit. >Chyna is fascist >Fascism has never worked anywhere Clearly it has worked brilliantly in Chyna

>>43748 >Clearly it has worked brilliantly in Chyna Has it really?

>>43745 if the attempt was sabotaged from the outside it doesn't count

>>43750 If a system is so "fragile" that it manages to fail if there is so much as a breeze that touches it, how great and resiliant is such a system? People constantly blame "Capitalist CIA spooks" as the "reason" why there has never been a successful Socialist government, but why can they not say the same thing about Capitalist countries? I mean, your average American is experiencing just as much, if not more, propaganda about how "terrible" free markets and Capitalism are, in addition to ever non-Capitalist country having their agitprop organizations like the KGB, yet the system still seems to be going strong and managing to outlast the 200+ Socialists regimes that have sprouted during the previous century.

>>43749 Obviously, which is why fags like you have been coping that Chyna is 2 weeks away from collapsing for the past 20 years

>>43758 >Obviously How so?

>>43765 Chyna is probably the most economically successful country in the world, it's the largest trading partner for nearly every country in the world, and Chinese citizens' quality of life improves every year.

>>43768 >Chyna is probably the most economically successful country in the world What about Japan, and Taiwan, and Worst Korea? >it's the largest trading partner for nearly every country in the world A statement that also applies to the U.S. >and Chinese citizens' quality of life improves every year. That's been true around the globe since the end of WWII. Does West Taiwan have anything "unique" that no one other country can claim?

>>43770 >>it's the largest trading partner for nearly every country in the world >A statement that also applies to the U.S. Spoken like a true innumerate mutt It is mathematically impossible for 2 countries to be the largest trading partner of nearly every country in the world 30 years ago it was true for the US and not true for Chyna, now it is true for Chyna and not true for the US >>43770 >>and Chinese citizens' quality of life improves every year. >That's been true around the globe since the end of WWII. Except for the collective west for the last 20 years

>>43772 >It is mathematically impossible for 2 countries to be the largest trading partner of nearly every country in the world Yes, it is. West Taiwan is the biggest net exporter, and the U.S. is the biggest net importer. That's also not including other factors like shipping routes, such as the Panama and Suez Canals making Panama and Egypt extremely vital to trade and very important partners to have. Then there's things like reserve currencies, which the U.S. is currently in charge of. Or trade and international affair languages, which result in Spain and France getting involved. >Except for the collective west for the last 20 years Depends on your source and your metrics. Here's one article talking about the West being in decline: archive.ph/ahmIb And here's another talking about how they're better off than ever before: archive.ph/ysF7N Even restricting discussion to just the "West" alone, here's one article talking about how standards of living are better in Europe than elsewhere: archive.ph/tgHzJ But then here's a discussion between individuals about how the U.S. has better living standards than Europe: archive.ph/AlTZw And here's a source saying that 90% of the countries across the entire globe have declined in quality of life: archive.ph/dMTT6 So what's the standard and how do you measure it? And even then, who do you believe?

>>43752 Maybe Capitalism is just better at inundating people with propaganda? After all, I mean, look at who the rightoids voted into office lol

>>43445 The US has been doing the contrary for the past 2 decades and has gotten worse since Trump's first run. They've taken every step into transforming the government into a state police nonsense, and its only gotten worse since then, this alone is pretty bad when it comes to Libertarian basics and giving a few extras to a clique of faggots like Elon Musk isn't exactly in line with Libertarianism either. The government has gotten too powerful to be compatible in any way or form with Libertarian principles, and any libertarian larping neocon doesn't do those principles to begin with. It's a shame, but things are just going downhill from now on

>>43780 >Maybe Capitalism is just better at inundating people with propaganda? That's a possibility. I mean, who would ever want to support a system that sells itself on the idea of making you a cog in the machine rather than a system that sells itself on the idea that you can achieve anything if you put your mind and enough work into it? >After all, I mean, look at who the rightoids voted into office lol Did you forget that the alternative was a literal geriatric who couldn't even remember his own name, before being replaced by a valley girl ditz who's 16 going on 60?

>>43786 >Did you forget that the alternative was a literal geriatric who couldn't even remember his own name, before being replaced by a valley girl ditz who's 16 going on 60? Yeah the worst thing imagineable would be voting for literally anybody but your favorite geratric, 34 time convicted felon, pedophile King Cheeto amirite guys?

>>43778 >WAOW I LOVE WATCHING TEEN DRAG QUEEN SHOWS ON MY FLAT SCREEN TV AND CALLING MY MIXED-RACE GRANDCHILDREN ON MY IPHONE 16 PRO Every westerner with a lick of sense would gladly go 20+ years into the past to escape the judeo-satanic hellhole they live in.

>>43798 >Every westerner with a lick of sense would gladly go 20+ years into the past Did you know that one of the major texts that founded Queer Theory and brought about Trannies is a book published by David Halperin in 1995 entitled "Saint Foucault: Towards a Gay Hagiography". And said book builds on the work of French philospher Michel Foucault, who lived from 1926 to 1984. And Michel actually built a lot of his theories off of the work of Feminist Simone de Beauvoir who lived from 1908 to 1986. Yeah, I'm sure that going back 20/30/50/100 years is going to "fix everything".

>>43802 World War 1 was the beginning of the end for western civilization, it spawned the Bolsheviks which in turn spawned the "cultural marxist" tranny/pedo faggotry that popped up in (((academic circles))) in Germany and Hungary. Look at all the May 9th shilling, the zog/commie cancer has been around long enough that it itself is now considered "trad". All of this came about because of the paradigm shift in the early 20th century, and it'll only go away with another paradigm shift.

>>43815 >All of this came about because of the paradigm shift in the early 20th century, and it'll only go away with another paradigm shift. I tend to disagree becuase you see much of this shift taking place in the 19th and 18th centuries, with how you had many philosphers and political groups trying to change the entire order of society and the world thanks to their "Enlightenment" era of think. That it was now the "Age of Reason" and humanity was "too mature" to believe in silly superstitions like the concept of magic, a soul, or even God. Basically that nothing about or beyond the world exists except what you're capable of seeing with your own eyes.

>>43819 >i only jerk off to gay porn that's how i know i'm straight

>>43824 White House Orangutan represents the masses embracing Big Brother. Even the cult of personality truly on point. He's got more pull on Catholics than the Catholic Church now lol. The thing those philosphers, political groups and writers were trying to warn of is happening in real-time. I guess you could liken MAGAts as the proles but way more violent when you think about it. All they want is >work in a iPhone assembly line >beat up Chinese people >talk about how important the 2nd Amendment is >beat up women >complain about how they can be the only victims >make America Great Again >talk about how much they would beat up communists if only there were any communists because communism has never worked >talk about Biden again >say thank you etc.

>>43864 What's with this massive shilling effort coming from about how Trump is going turn America into a nation worse than the USSR? When he did none of that during his first term, all the people he's staffing the government with are against that shit, and what you're describing is EXACTLY how Brandon had been operating for the past four years.

My view of a Libertarian military organization (protecting the sovereignty of property-owners from outside threats and satisfying other policy goals) is basically mercenary groups that has a group contract with Property Management Companies, the organizations which are contracted with property-owners to protect their property against violations, A part of a a property Management contract is dedicated to a group-funded military contract managed by the company and if you want to do business with them you have to accept certain things like that. Maybe they even have profit-sharing or stock options, like an investment for them to do things like help African warlords get gold mines, pirate Chinese merchants, and whatever other business they’re involved in, The function of Congress is taken over by the management companies except instead of pretending to be democratic everything is based on mutual and transparent business relationships.

>>43881 >t. talk about Biden again Thanks for proving my point lol

>>43700 >exactly how West Taiwan has operated ever since (((Kissinger))) Deng and his successors sent traditional Chinese society into free fall and set up what we have today, Xi's reaction to having to be in such a society. Deng wasn't the successor to Mao anyway.

>>43896 >Deng and his successors sent traditional Chinese society into free fall WHAT "traditional Chinese society"? MaoMao already eradicated that during his 1966 "Destruction of the Four Olds" campaign, which destroyed and eradicated everything still "traditional" about China after two decades of CCP rule, from crushing and permentantly defacing cultural monuments around the nation to thousands of years of traditional Chinese texts being turned into kindling and going up in smoke to even desecrating the tombs of sacred Chinese royalty. Even fucking Japan has more legitmacy to protecting "'traditional Chinese society" than ANY fucking thing ANY fucking member of the CCP has ever done. The "closest" they gotten to restoring "traditional Chinese society''" was accidentally making Falun Gong a widespread practice in the country, and the CCP's immediately response to that is using members of the belief as prime candidates for organ harvesting and calling in bomb threats if they dare to put on dance performances.

>>43802 When the ideas were conceived of is irrelevant to the question of quality of life 20 years ago was an objectively better time to live in the west compared to today, which is my point

>>43899 >When the ideas were conceived of is irrelevant No, it's not. >to the question of quality of life Define "quality of life". What's the standard? How is it measured? Has this standard and measurment remained consistent? Is it actually an objective and impartial determination? >20 years ago was an objectively better time to live in the west compared to today If we roll back the clock to 2005, we're four years into the PAtriot Act and invasion of Afghanistan in response to 9/11, and two years away from liquidity crisis that would compound into the 2008 finacial crash. <Well, 30 years ago... We had just gotten out of the Gulf War a few years prior (Which sets the events for everything that would compound into 9/11), and the biggest shows on TV included Captain Planet (Which devoted an entire episode to AIDs), Ellen (A primetime show about a dyke), and Seinfield (A show about Kikes, by Kikes, and for Kikes). Do you really want to play this game?

>>43900 >No, it's not. Yes, it is. What matters for quality of life is whether these ideas are mainstream, not whether they exist. >Define "quality of life" Not picrel >The US has lost every war it fought since WW2 Yes, and?

>>43912 >Not picrel So I take it that you're not a fan of West Taiwan either: https://archive.today/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg <Virgin boy eggs are a traditional dish of Dongyang, Zhejiang, China in which eggs are boiled in the urine of young boys, preferably under the age of ten. <... <Virgin boy eggs are widely accepted as a tradition in the city. Boy egg vendors go to elementary schools in the city where they collect urine from young boys, preferably under the age of ten. Children who have been raised in the city are used to the practice, and relieve themselves in basins that the vendors place in the hallways. The teachers often remind the boys not to urinate in the basins if any of them have a fever or feel ill. Some vendors wait with containers in parks or public restrooms for a parent who is willing to let their child offer urine. Dongyang residents are also known to prepare the dish at home, using urine from household boys. Although modern medical research shows no evidence of health benefits from ingesting urine, the eggs continue to be consumed. As of 2012, the eggs are sold for about 1.50 yuan (approximately $0.24) each, roughly twice the price of normal eggs.

>>43914 >Yes, every western capital will have a fag parade this year >Yes, Joe Biden replaced Easter with the trans day of visibility and said that USA has a "tranny soul" >But did you know that less than 0.1% of Chyna's population live in a city where there's a traditional dish that uses boy urine to preserve eggs? Honestly I don't know if you should be fired or given a raise for this shilling

>>43898 Mao's Cultural Revolution was aimed at uprooting the urban culture of China which had made it destitute to replace it with one which synthesized long neglected rural culture and Socialist ideas of the "New Man" in complement to the Great Leap Forward. This rural culture is what I meant by the mention of traditional Chinese society. Deng and his successors let open the floodgates for immorality, poverty, and disease as rural peoples flooded cities following his repeals of Mao's and Hua's laws, Hua himself repealing some of these laws while maintaining Mao's vision due to them being implemented by the Gang of Four. Obviously, the Great Leap Forward was a series of blunders. Mao saw himself as China's Napoleon or Washington but was mostly someone who said things that others then had to interpret. Regardless, my criticism is less of a defense of Mao and more of a critique of Deng, who came to understand Mao's situation somewhat a few years after succeeding Hua. >from crushing and permentantly defacing cultural monuments around the nation to thousands of years of traditional Chinese texts being turned into kindling and going up in smoke to even desecrating the tombs of sacred Chinese royalty This sort of destruction is always pointed to as a negative, but what else should be done to build a new society completely apart from the old, especially for one as bad as China, a place where, for example, amateur boxers were led by the nose by the Empress to believe they had magic powers that could protect them from bullets? >the CCP's immediately response to that is using members of the belief as prime candidates for organ harvesting and calling in bomb threats if they dare to put on dance performances I'm not pro-China in any way, sans comparison to places like India and Indonesia, but the Falun Gong deserve it.

>>43927 >Yes, every western capital will have a fag parade this year Including Israel, in case you forget: archive.ph/yM8PI >Yes, Joe Biden replaced Easter with the trans day of visibility and said that USA has a "tranny soul" MaoMao did the same thing with the Destruction of the Four Olds. >But did you know that less than 0.1% of Chyna's population live in a city where there's a traditional dish that uses boy urine to preserve eggs? If you want more funny little anecdaotes, there was MaoMao seeking to redfine gender norms: archive.ph/Cr8ld archive.ph/Hlupl Which spiraled, as a result of the one child policy, into men vastily outnumbering women by tens of millions: archive.ph/ypWwB And if you know anything about the Mouse Utopia experiments: redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o The inevitable result of such a system where people cannot leave is that majority of men are unable to find a mate and end up feminizing themselves and become the "mate". And wouldn't you know it, West Taiwan is having a problem of "sissy men" being everywhere: archive.ph/JyWN3 And did you know that West Taiwan also hosted pride events in their own capital: https://archive.today/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShanghaiPride And Hong Kong: https://archive.today/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Pride_Parade And even has their own "gay" capital, according to official CCP-approved news sources: archive.ph/ehc8s Had Communist members defending fags: archive.ph/iBi5U And even made public addresses ridiculing people for "hating" fags: archive.ph/xPZ7 And even in recent years officially recognized gay marriage: archive.ph/2Ulyl And defended trannies in court: archive.ph/7Az8g On top of having a public that supports fags: archive.ph/d4TBC If I didn't know better, I'd say that West Taiwan is just as pozzed, if not more so, than the "West". And any claim otherwise is just propaganda to make themselves look more "based" to the retards online. >>43931 >Mao's Cultural Revolution was aimed at uprooting the urban culture of China which had made it destitute No, it was to regain the authority that MaoMao had lost when he was replaced by Liu Shaoqi. >This rural culture is what I meant by the mention of traditional Chinese society. Which MaoMao had ALREADY destroyed by that point with the Anti-Rightist Struggle and (More specifically) through the second Great Leap Forward (Which was why he was replaced by Liu in the first place), as tens of millions of rural people had died through starvation, that happened as result of the famine that was caused by three factors. The first being the importation of Lysenkoism from the Soviet Union. The second being that Mao wanted a Chinese steel industry, and the result was millions of Chinese people melting down any and all metalic objects (From statues and jewelry to farming and cooking tools) into pig steel of such low quality that it was worthless. And the third being the Four Pests campaign, specifically the Smash Sparrow Campaign that killed millions of Chinese sparrows, which allowed the locust population to skyrocket. >This sort of destruction is always pointed to as a negative, but what else should be done to build a new society completely apart from the old Ask Japan and Taiwan. The former had the Meiji Restoration and curb-stomped China twice within a decade (The first Sino-Japanese War and the Boxer Rebellion) before moving on to humilitating Russia, and the latter being all that's left of traditional China as they ARE the Chinese government. >a place where, for example, amateur boxers were led by the nose by the Empress to believe they had magic powers that could protect them from bullets? You do remember that the Qianlong Emperor was so deluded that he scoffed at the idea Europeans could "ever" have anything worth any amount of value, right? Only for him and his successors to begin raiding European ships and stealing their supplies, all under the "justification" of confescating opium, which was never actually an issue as ALL the Qing royalty had been smoking that shit despite being the ones who outlawed it, along with opium being considered it just as "important" and "traditional" to Chinese society as Asian tea ceremonies. >but the Falun Gong deserve it Why?

>>43899 >20 years ago spoken like a post 2010 zoombot. That IS what led to whats happening currently, the system is the same and has gotten worse exactly because about 20 years ago, shit like patriot act and every major antisocial law meant to exert control over society was pushed. Every president has fallen in line with said projects, no exceptions

Most of us realized how cringe lolberts were and they just slinked away in shame.

>>44026 The weak should die so the strong may truly live. Non libertarians are not people.