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The problem of CSAM (and comparisons to fictional material). Anonymous 08/12/2025 (Tue) 05:39:41 Id: 648ff6 No. 45909
One reason I think Lolicon/shotacon/Cub should be legal is that it's a waste of time to investigate and prosecute it. Any resources used for investigating drawings could be used for investigating actual CP. There is so much CP that police, platforms, and groups like the NCMEC or IWF are unable to deal with it all. It's not just on the darkweb either. Here's some data from the NCMEC's cybertipline. The vast majority of reports they receive are about CSAM. In 2024, 19,854,300 out of 20,512,803 reports were about CP. Source: https://archive.today/https://www.missingkids.org/gethelpnow/cybertipline/cybertiplinedata In 2024, Facebook filed around 8 million reports to the NCMEC and Instagram filed around 3 million. Source: https://archive.today/https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/pdfs/cybertiplinedata2024/2024-reports-by-esp.pdf In 2023, Facebook filed around 17 million reports to the NCMEC and Instagram filed around 11 million. Source: https://archive.today/https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/pdfs/2023-reports-by-esp.pdf This isn't all the CP on the clearweb or even Facebook/Instagram, that's just the stuff that got caught. A different group used a webcrawler to detect and report CP. >The vast majority of CSAM detected by Project Arachnid is not physically hosted on the dark web. However, the dark web does act as the main conduit for directing individuals on where to find it on the clear web. Source: https://archive.today/https://protectchildren.ca/en/resources-research/project-arachnid-csam-online-availability/ In the USA there wouldn't be enough space in prison to hold everyone who consumes CP, so it's not even worth trying to crack down on people for possessing fictional material. >“I think that people were always there, but the access is so easy,” said Lt. John Pizzuro, a task force commander in New Jersey. “You got nine million people in the state of New Jersey. Based upon statistics, we can probably arrest 400,000 people.” Source: https://archive.today/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/28/us/child-sex-abuse.html For comparison, there's a little under 2 million prisoners in the USA. Source: https://archive.today/https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/criminal-defense/mass-incarceration-in-america-stats-and-facts/ Here's some data from Britain: >Police were alerted to 2,866 suspects in 2012 but only 192 of them – or one in 15 - were detained, according to data from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop). Source: https://archive.today/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10109506/Most-people-who-view-child-porn-escape-arrest.html I don't think there's much point prosecuting someone for possession of fictional material, when most CP consumers will not be caught.
Anonymous 09/10/2025 (Wed) 12:38:25 Id: 46604f No. 46366
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>>46073 >Im pretty sure those groups talk about the sources of CP in their stats. No, they don't. If they did you'd be able to post evidence instead of saying that you're "pretty sure" that they're honest about what they're saying. They lie about it to keep and increase their funding. If they had to be honest about what they're doing they'd be out of business, and that's all this is for them--a business to make money. Government groups, NGO's, and nonprofits lie about everything, so why would you believe that they're telling the truth about this subject? When they talk about "posting on /leftypol/ trafficking" it's always just teenage hookers who choose to do it. When they have a drug bust they always lie about the street value of what they confiscated. When they talk about "CSAM" on the clearnet it's 99% teenagers. Is there CP on the darknet? Yes, but it's difficult to find and most of it is years or even decades old and has been circulating forever. They pretend that it's a big problem to enforce censorship and increase their bank accounts.
Anonymous 09/10/2025 (Wed) 12:40:59 Id: 46604f No. 46367
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>>46366 >"posting on /leftypol/ trafficking" More wordfilters. What I wrote is c h i l d s e x trafficking
Anonymous 09/10/2025 (Wed) 16:46:20 Id: 80bf8d No. 46371
>>46069 >>46073 >>46366 >No, they don't. If they did you'd be able to post evidence instead of saying that you're "pretty sure" that they're honest about what they're saying. The NGOs have talked about it: https://archive.today/https://www.iwf.org.uk/news-media/iwf-in-the-news/more-than-90-of-child-sexual-abuse-images-on-internet-are-self-generated/ https://archive.today/https://www.iwf.org.uk/annual-report-2023/trends-and-data/self-generated-child-sex-abuse/ https://archive.today/https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/17/child-sexual-abuse-self-generated-data-internet-watch-foundation-end-to-end-encryption >They lie about it to keep and increase their funding. If they had to be honest about what they're doing they'd be out of business, and that's all this is for them--a business to make money. Government groups, NGO's, and nonprofits lie about everything, so why would you believe that they're telling the truth about this subject? When they talk about "ch1ld s3x trafficking" it's always just teenage hookers who choose to do it. When they have a drug bust they always lie about the street value of what they confiscated. When they talk about "CSAM" on the clearnet it's 99% teenagers. Is there CP on the darknet? Yes, but it's difficult to find and most of it is years or even decades old and has been circulating forever. They pretend that it's a big problem to enforce censorship and increase their bank accounts. Do you have a source for your claims?
Anonymous 09/11/2025 (Thu) 01:27:17 Id: 8f374e No. 46393
>>45909 I think what it really comes down to is no one is harmed by it. It's the same reason that you can legally own images of naked children from nudist resorts, because they aren't being harmed by it. It's a normal and healthy environment. When it's a drawn material there also isn't a child being harmed so it doesn't matter.
Anonymous 09/17/2025 (Wed) 00:06:26 Id: 427fbc No. 46513
Something interesting https://archive.today/https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable/ >She says that unlike other dark markets, such as guns and drugs, most illegal p0rn is shared among participants for free, so there is no money or cryptocurrency trail to follow.
Anonymous 09/17/2025 (Wed) 00:31:13 Id: 5ca1c8 No. 46514
>>46513 Perverts are all bros to each other as long as their fetish is the same fetish. It's a bond stronger than blood or money.
Anonymous 09/17/2025 (Wed) 03:55:27 Id: 2f62fb No. 46519
>>46393 The people in positions to influence or institute a ban don't care that "no one is harmed". They're not consequentialists, or using any system of teleological ethics. They're at best what anon would call a moralfag, or worse a "metamoralfag" Metamoralfags do not believe in their apparent moral crusades, only that they have receive political capital or "clout" for performing the moral crusade. All these internet porn bans are purely performative. Most politicians these days are hollow men, and care about nothing but their continued existence inside the system.
Anonymous 09/17/2025 (Wed) 19:27:18 Id: 488b8f No. 46532
>>46513 <It can be so sadistic that even most paedophiles are repulsed by it.
Anonymous 09/19/2025 (Fri) 18:35:50 Id: 178264 No. 46555
>>46532 That makes sense because being a paedophile just means they are attracted to children who are pre-pubescent. There are paedos who are into sadism, but being aroused by violence or sadism is an entirely separate thing because there are non-paedophiles into sadism & violence as well. While it has to do with fictional media, I've seen fans of loli/shota hentai arguing with guro hentai fans and accusing each other of being degenerate.
Anonymous 10/14/2025 (Tue) 01:45:06 Id: f934d7 No. 46809
Another thread worth checking out: >>46656
Anonymous 10/19/2025 (Sun) 23:54:17 Id: bf1a98 No. 46903
This guy went to prison for for distributing fiction: https://archive.today/https://www.newsweek.com/texas-man-sentenced-40-years-running-website-stories-about-raping-murdering-children-1603191 While he was accused of other sex crimes, they weren't brought up in his trial. >Arthur is also allegedly guilty of sex crimes unrelated to his website. While Arthur was being investigated for Mr. Double, two women came forward about their past experiences of assault at his hands. In the early 1980s, Arthur allegedly molested the young daughter of a friend and business associate; the victim was between the ages of 3 and 4. In 1992, he allegedly video recorded himself sexually assaulting an adult woman who was living with him, the DOJ said. These assaults are not part of his charging or sentencing.
Anonymous 10/20/2025 (Mon) 18:27:27 Id: 46604f No. 46910
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>>46903 Newsweek went bankrupt over a decade ago and someone bought the rights to the name and it's now just clickbait garbage, so I guarantee that that story isn't completely accurate. Pic related is a sample of their typical "news stories."
Anonymous 10/20/2025 (Mon) 22:40:18 Id: 8d8258 No. 46911
>>46910 It was covered in other outlets and there was a press release from the government as well: https://archive.today/https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/texas-man-sentenced-40-years-prison-running-child-obscenity-website
Anonymous 10/21/2025 (Tue) 05:13:01 Id: 7390f4 No. 46912
>>46910 >Newsweek went bankrupt over a decade ago and someone bought the rights to the name and it's now just clickbait garbage What do you mean "now"? Have you forgotten them running "IS YOUR BABY RACIST" on their cover back in the 00s? Fuck Jewsweek (and while I'm at it, fuck Rolling Stone too)
Anonymous 10/21/2025 (Tue) 16:57:11 Id: 46604f No. 46915
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>>46911 Well that's complete horseshit. Obscenity is completely subjective and considering how depraved "normal" porn has become, obscenity is either obsolete or only prosecuted to punish those deemed guilty of wrongthink. There were no actual children involved in those fictional stories or drawings so the government clearly overstepped their authority. Their own press release said that their job is to "locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the internet, as well as to identify and rescue victims" but since there were no victims there should have been no issue with the website. >>46912 Yes, Newsweek has always been trash but they used to have some respectability, but now they're just fraudulently coasting on that reputation with people who don't know that it doesn't exist anymore.
Anonymous 10/21/2025 (Tue) 23:21:43 Id: 54bb70 No. 46921
>>46915 I don't think prosecution for text obscenity is that common, but I don't know how common it is. Here's another time it happened. This was a few years after that case: https://archive.today/https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/man-sentenced-running-child-obscenity-website Unlike Arthur, this guy plead guilty: >On June 13, Kuhlmeyer pleaded guilty to five counts of importation or transportation of obscene matters and one count of distributing obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children Arthur had people come forward about him abusing them, but Ron Kuhlmeyer had actually been convicted: >Kuhlmeyer was previously convicted of Continuous Sexual Abuse of a Child in Sonoma County, California, in 2008 and served six years in state prison. The cases are also connected because he wrote stories for Arthur's website.
Anonymous 10/21/2025 (Tue) 23:35:55 Id: 54bb70 No. 46924
>>46921 Those 2 cases happened after 2019. There was also the unconnected case of Red Rose Stories which happened much earlier in 2005: https://archive.today/https://www.xbiz.com/news/10680/red-rose-stories-closed-by-fbi https://archive.today/https://web.archive.org/web/20111125070621/https://archive.today/https://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08220/902556-100.stm >Ms. Fletcher has a history of sexual abuse in her youth, and her attorney, Warner Mariani, has said that she published the graphic stories online as a type of therapy. She has a variety of mental illnesses, including agoraphobia, which is a fear of public places. Today was only the second time she appeared in court since she was first charged about two years ago. It definitely feels weirder for her to have been prosecuted for this. Her site only had 29 subscribers and she said she was doing it to cope with experiencing child abuse. She ended up taking a plea deal in part because she was afraid to leave her house, and got sentenced to house arrest.
Anonymous 10/22/2025 (Wed) 01:17:29 Id: 42e4b2 No. 46925
>>46076 >Someone was recently arrested for loli in Ireland. Here's the story: https://archive.today/https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/08/21/man-charged-over-having-child-sex-abuse-animation-images/
Anonymous 10/22/2025 (Wed) 19:06:26 Id: 46604f No. 46930
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>>46921 >I don't think prosecution for text obscenity is that common, but I don't know how common it is. It shouldn't exist at all in America. We're talking about fictional stories. Literally nobody is being harmed by that. It's ridiculous that the government is wasting time and resources on that. I used to read Mr. Double and another site called Alt.Sex.Stories Text Repository and they both had sex stories about people of all ages, not just minors. I'll be the first to admit that some of them were disturbing, but again, they were just fictional stories. Nobody committed any crimes because of reading them, just like nobody commits crimes because of violent movies or video games.
Anonymous 11/01/2025 (Sat) 01:36:33 Id: 3c5c49 No. 46989
https://archive.today/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1244457.stm >Around 100,000 websites worldwide are thought to be involved in some way with ch1ld pornography, according to customs service estimates. I don't know how accurate this article is and it's from 2001.
Anonymous 11/01/2025 (Sat) 10:43:20 Id: 7390f4 No. 46990
>>46989 "Involved" is an ambiguous word. It might just count normal sites that get hit with drive-by spam.
Anonymous 11/08/2025 (Sat) 18:54:15 Id: c56375 No. 47037
>>45909 >In the USA there wouldn't be enough space in prison to hold everyone who consumes CP Maybe that's a sign that it's a pretty normal thing that shouldn't be illegal. >>46100 >Wow! It's almost like pedophile Jews run the US government! In the 1800s when jews didn't run the government, the age of consent was 7-10 in the US. Today in 2025 jews very obviously run the government and the age of consent is now 16-18. How do you explain that? Maybe jewish feminism has simply brainwashed you into thinking that something that has been normal for hundreds of years is now suddenly evil. But of course, you'd never admit this.
Anonymous 11/08/2025 (Sat) 20:15:20 Id: dc6dc9 No. 47038
>>47037 >Maybe that's a sign that it's a pretty normal thing that shouldn't be illegal. Just because something is normal doesnt mean it should be legal. >>47037 >In the 1800s when jews didn't run the government, the age of consent was 7-10 in the US. Today in 2025 jews very obviously run the government and the age of consent is now 16-18. How do you explain that? Maybe jewish feminism has simply brainwashed you into thinking that something that has been normal for hundreds of years is now suddenly evil. But of course, you'd never admit this. source?
Anonymous 11/08/2025 (Sat) 20:58:29 Id: 7386f0 No. 47039
>>47037 >How do you explain that? Because medical technology was shit until after WWII, and so became more lax on how "quickly" a person needed to mature. In addition, the creation and wide-spread distributions of inventions like the automobile in the early 20th century allowed for people to become more independent than previous generations. The concept of the "teenager" didn't exist until the 1920's.
Anonymous 11/09/2025 (Sun) 12:44:58 Id: c56375 No. 47044
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>>47038 It takes a few seconds to look up >>47039 That's not why the age of consent was raised. See picrel.
Anonymous 11/09/2025 (Sun) 15:35:55 Id: 7386f0 No. 47045
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>>47044 >Using Kikpedia as a source
Anonymous 11/09/2025 (Sun) 21:39:04 Id: 2a3e60 No. 47046
Here's a 2021 report from a child protection organization that mentions how a lot of CP their webcrawler found and reported was hosted on the clearweb. https://archive.today/https://protectchildren.ca/en/resources-research/project-arachnid-csam-online-availability/ >The vast majority (97%) of CSAM detected by Project Arachnid is physically hosted on the clear web. However, the dark web plays a disproportionately large role in directing individuals on where to access CSAM on the clear web. It doesn't give statistics for how big a role the darknet plays though. Their report does mention a clear web imageboard group called trichan which was dedicated to sharing CP: https://archive.today/https://doi.org/10.1002/POI3.256 >the paper describes the 2019 intervention of the Canadian Centre for Child Protection in the operations of “Trichan”, three websites that were amongst the largest purveyors of abuse material on the open web for 7 years. It used tricks to remain online (but was eventually taken down): >During this period, the Trichan administrator attempted to deceive C3P and possibly their own hosting provider P4 through a technique called “referrer protecting” images. Also note that Project Arachnid's web crawler did have bugs. See the SauceNao incident: https://archive.today/https://saucenao.blogspot.com/
Anonymous 11/09/2025 (Sun) 23:59:25 Id: 9133b7 No. 47053
>>47045 https://archive.today/https://archivesfiles.delaware.gov/laws-of-de/vol_14.pdf >Punishment for carnally knowing a female child. >a female child under the age of seven years Stop coping already. It's no secret that feminism is behind the anti-pedo hysteria, which certainly wasn't a thing before ZOG. Age of consent could go up to 35 tomorrow and leftists, cuckservatives and 8channers would all cheer together as birth rates collapse even more.
Anonymous 11/10/2025 (Mon) 03:00:35 Id: 7386f0 No. 47055
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>>47053 >It's no secret that feminism is behind the anti-pedo hysteria How can it when those AoC laws also apply to men? If the feminists really were the cause, then they'd have those laws excluding men from AoC since, according to them, "no one cares" when an underaged boy is molested by an adult.
Anonymous 11/11/2025 (Tue) 03:37:31 Id: 56bd76 No. 47068
>>47055 The feminists had to lobby and pitch the idea to male lawmakers who were in charge of the idea's implementation.
Anonymous 11/11/2025 (Tue) 04:39:56 Id: 42fdda No. 47069
>>47068 >The feminists had to lobby and pitch the idea to male lawmakers When and where? And where is your source? It's especially funny how you keep blaming "Muh feminists" when Feminists are just Sexual Marxists. And every time the Feminists get in charge, the first thing they do is remove the laws restricting sexual activity. Like how the first decade of the USSR was an absolute sexual paradise thanks to the work of Alexandra Kollontai, who's entire policy work originated from wanting to flee an unhappy marriage. And this is a repeating pattern with Communists, as the entire reason the Hungarian Soviet Republic lasted only a matter of months in 1919 is because of their radical sex programs coming down from the government. And you're trying to say that it's "these people" who are responsible for raising the AoC? Provide an actual source or fuck off.
Anonymous 11/14/2025 (Fri) 23:32:58 Id: ee2904 No. 47106
https://archive.today/https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/05/13/tim_tebow_111423_unique_ip_addresses_sharing_child_abuse_images_in_30_days.html >I brought a map to share with you. This is the map—every red dot on that. First of all, that is a DOJ law enforcement map; it’s called the Red Dot Map. Every red dot on that map is at least one unique IP address of individuals downloading, sharing, distributing child abuse and rape images under the age of 12. There’s over 111,000 of them just in the U.S. in the last 30 days. Does anyone know where you can read the map on the DOJ website?
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