Corruption will keep growing to the breaking point and the continent will return to the default of warring states.

>>12157 >the future of European Union in upcoming century? Will be dissolved by 2050 as everyone loathes it, and the only real advantage of it is a near endless supply of money that they hand out like candy.

>>12160 >hand out You mean the pocket change they hand out after stashing the majority of what they steal from taxpayers into offshore accounts.

Yes, OP, it's possible. Islam recognizes only one nation - ISLAM NATION. All races are equal in Islam, culture is common, everyone follows to one general Shari. So, yes - common European identity is possible

>>12157 It's going to be dissolved and that won't need a century either. If it had stayed a customs union/free trade zone, it'd have survived everything because every member benefits, though not equally. Since it's hellbent on becoming a US of Europe, it'll inevitably fail as most member states are subject to rules the people don't want or need. Currently you see Poland questioning this and there is much oy veying about that, and that'll continue happening. The Euro was the final nail in its coffin. There is no circumstance where Greece and Germany both benefit from having the same monetary policy.

>>12157 >what will the future of the EU be? the American present it's all about the white population numbers. As that declines, things will get worse.

Commies already tried that, didn't work well. Homo sovieticus was a cultural cripple, not even a mutt of various cultures, more like an abomination with a shallow, materialistic identity and slave's mentality. Forced common european identity is a bad idea.

>>12157 Hopefully it won't exist soon.

>>12180 USSR failed only because KGB wanted to seize power from the party and become oligarchs.

You can't force unity. A common foe might seem like it can but it really doesn't, a common foe simply gives the illusion of it. If people wish to join together, they will do it anyway without a union. And if they do not wish to join together, pushing them together will only make them hate each other more. A union that cannot impose its will on its constituents is useless and a union that can impose it will be oppressive, neither of which are desirable outcomes. So to the question I say the future of the European Union is hopefully that of dissolution in the best case scenario and collapse in the worst. >>12227 USSR failed because the logical conclusion of any communist state is to cause suffering to those under it and inevitably fail spectacularly.

>>12268 Europe in 2100 will be an islamic one. It won't be functioning enough to have even socialism.

>>12273 Equality and quality of life don't come from a bunch of bureaucrats getting paid to show up at a round table to engage in a circlejerk. When is the last time you thought to yourself "oh boy I sure am glad the UN passed that resolution, I've never been equal in my entire life, I wish they would continue making me equaller"? The only time bureaucrats doing something results in those things is when it simply undoes the damage past bureaucrats have done.

>>12244 The USSR dissolved because Yeltsin lead an illegal coup against the Union to dissolve it despite the majority of the union voting to remain as a united socialist entity

good luck convincing that to ireland vs the uk or the whole of yugoslavia

The problem of a United Europe is or cultural,historical and political differences. >Language for political offices and military Esperanto would be the wisest pick >Uniting Europe If Europe would be United and in order for it to survive long term it would have to be a decentralised confederation. Even tho I am a nationalist I believe in a United Europe.

>>12157 Kill yourself

>>13633 The only way you can unite such a large amount of different people with different languages, different cultures is under a religion. But of course thats not going to happen these days, the decline of religion is the biggest factor that disunifies countries. This has happened in Europe for a while now, people prioritise individualism and only care about themselves.

>>12157 Portugal needs its very own George Carlin A Portuguese George Carlin

Bumping because it's funny how things changed

>>12180 >was Is. They are still alive.

>>12157 >What will be the future of European Union in upcoming century? Becomes more and more totalitarian, until it either collapses from within or gets destroyed by another entity that claims to save it's people. Anyhow, It will be very interesting to see the progress, because the majority of people living in the EU have been molded into being very docile zombies with tech that was not available during past revolutions. I think it is better for the minority who knows this isn't sustainable, to just go live in the woods or start another Orania when it all comes tumbling down.

Fuck no. Our history is way too war torn for this. An equal European state can not function because a single eternal truth >They are not us The European union is a failing project flawed in its inception. Great Britain proved that there is no loyalty among nations and as soon as you don't profit from it enough you would want to leave

>>12157 Not unless the EU changes its election protocol. There is no connection between us and the politicians noone has ever seen before who are working in Brussels now. It's a total farce that von der Leyen was elected Queen of Europe after she has completely failed as German defense minister. That bloody cunt fell up the ladder an we are supposed to be OK with that?

>>12157 lolno

The idea that you will ever get a majority of the population to identify primarily with a denationalized, deracialized "culturally European" civnat identity is a liberal pipe dream. Same as in the colonies only the white bourgeoisie actually buys into this, and it only seems to predominate because they exercise dictatorial control over the commanding heights of cultural production

>wHaT iF iTs MaDe WiTh RuSsIaN iRoN? You literally cannot even import anything made of iron into any European nation anymore. End is near.

>>12157 >identity Identity as in one nation no, at least not in this century. Europe is unlike other major regional civilizations like India or China that stayed on the same place, many European nations exhorted control over most of the world at some point and each country's historical development is radically different from the one right next to it for this reason, specially post 1700s. With current trends this could change as Europe finds itself globally isolated. At a political level the EU could enlarge all it wants but it wouldn't be a genuine development or nation of any sort, and spiritually very weak. There's definitely a shared European ethos though

>>28777 The greater the collapse, the greater the opportunity to create something new. All it really takes is a few thousand ethnically and ideologically bound men and women to start an entirely new genetic line. That's why I don't buy the doomer shit that Whites are going extinct. Especially since racial awareness is resurging among the youth, everywhere. Most ethnic lines of European are superior to non-European lines. Alone endowed with the ability to lead mankind into a paradise. We will never be defeated.

>>12157 Hopefully we dissolve this shitty union and go back to killing each other openly rather than have all this dirty sabotage and backstabbing.

> Is common european identity possible? Yes, mostly based on a common ancestry and genetics >What will be the future of European Union in upcoming century? Total collapse

>>12157 Yes, you're all faggots.

>>27515 You're next.

>>12157 >What will be the future of European Union in upcoming century? There won't be any unless they rise up and behead their invaders and, possibly, their own governments. Simple as.

I don't care about European peasants being oppressed by elites, I am moving out. I guess they will be identify as Jett Arabs and blacks and some retarded white home owners.

>>13671 Woke religion is retarded. And saying them gone will be great work. Germany? Your time to shine

>>29462 If I could get one pound for EU being wiped. I would tell it's good deal.

>>12157 Tristate City gets implemented with 15-minute containment zones, and everyone has to speak Esperanto so that people's ability to conceptualise the world around them becomes equally as simplified and retarded.

>>12157 The EU is shit and can suck my dick forever. 12 stars, 12 tribes

>>12157 REMINDER that everybody who shills for a mixxing of Europe is a Kalergi puppet. I am not the same as an Albanian. A Spaniard is not the same as a Sami from Finland. Death to everyone who shills for Kalergis project.

>>30097 (Me) had VPN on

>>28823 >There's definitely a shared European ethos though There is a shared human ethos as well. Would you use that to shill for one-human-race globohomo? If not, then why would this be ok on a continental basis then? Lets call it continentalhomo.

>>30097 AHEM CHUDDIE https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=F6gREHxxVIs

>>12157 there already is such a thing as a european identity even now people argue what it should mean and how far it stretches but it exists

>>12157 I literally choose to nuke the whole world instead of having another country determine what I can or can't do.

>>30261 It exists since 1923, when Kalergi wrote the Manifesto of the to-be European Union called "Paneuropa". It is also the origin of the thought that Great Britain would be Europe, and the muslim remains of the ottomans on the Balkan would be Europe, but Moscow wouldn't. The reason why you have to argue about "what it should mean and how far it stretches" is because there is no such thing as an common culture of that artificially declared area. There is also no reason why this area should have the name "Europe", because it doesn't cover the European continent. The only binding force is Kalergis ideology. And a reminder that the EU was always emphasized as a purely economic entity up until 2004 when all those various Eastern European leeches joined. Up to that moment, they would have told you that you are a conspiracy theorist, if you claim that they planed to mix together Europe.

>>30097 Well said. I feel they would have to psyop hard to get there, though, because nobody in Europe believes in this forced nonsense. When I go to France, Portugal, or Italy, I want to feel I'm in a different country, with its own culture. I want to shit on every aspect of it. And I want them to curse me behind my back because my shitty customs don't mix with their shitty customs.

>>12157 > Is common european identity possible? if wearing scarves and having shrunken testicles can be considered an identity.

>>12157 There is no future. The EU is hopelessly overextended and run by incompetent frauds who can only stay in power by censoring and persecuting all opposition. Instead of consolidating their power, they started a war against Russia that they cannot possibly win. Over Ukraine, of all places. Turkey is already falling to China. Expect Greece and the Balkans to follow, up to Hungary, Austria, Slovakia. If the EU keeps going like now, it will become the theatre of proxy wars between the great powers.

>>30396 Is that a thing in East Hungary? Shrunken testicles? Gene defect from Gypsy inbreeding, I presume?

>>12157 No and its not a thing we would have wanted as that would mean our cultures would die in the long run. Also the top of the eu is rotten to the core. Whats possible is to work together as neighbors and friends. So the future of the european union is hopefully that it dies and we make multilateral treaties instead.

>>30323 you are missing the point europe should be united and maximally coordinated because it's geographically small and it's a good thing for neighboring countries to be friendly if every country had a good relationship with all their neighbors we would be 99% of the way there to eradicate war for example and it's economically good too the more united a world we have the better >>30829 >i hope the eu dies so we can make it again

>>30846 I hope the eu dies so we can cooperate on single topics with countries that want to cooperate and on other topics with other constellations. The corrupt bondage we have now is not healthy for us as you know but we need to work together in some fields nonetheless. Else every country for its own people.

>>30861 i bet this is how macedonians, athenians and corinthians talked until the romans came in and just btfo'd them because they were divided and infighting european countries is just that - a bunch of city states that are becoming more and more irrelevant >every country for its own people is how we end up with tiny countries genociding eachother and the UN can't do anything about it like israel and palestine or armenia and the azeris... every man for himself is how you end up with a nuclear war due to endless escalations, like what you are seeing threatened by russia against ukraine and the world we need to be not just cooperating opportunistically, but also depending and relying on one another. Because in realty we already do and might as well make it official the world is going squarely in the opposite direction however, like now if the ozone hole appeared we wouldn't be able to solve it like we did in the 70's and 80's

>>30885 So you would think a one world government would be a good solution to end all wars globally? The only thing that has ever worked was tribal bonds and shared culture. You think too abstract, the bigger the system the less controlled, the more corrupt. So you get a civil war instead of one country against another.

>>30902 if every country was united with their neighbors war would be nearly impossible (unless it's overseas and those are rare).That would be a good start - you don't need a world government to be united with your neighbors But in general, there needs to be a world government, yes - for some functions. We went from eradicating smallpox and other diseases to leaking bat viruses and starting world epidemics. from fixing the ozone layer to actively fighting climate change policies because 'it won't hit us too hard here who cares if millions die elsewhere and wars are started' - until india starts shooting sulfur aerosols into space to cool the climate >The only thing that has ever worked was tribal bonds and shared culture. >tribal bonds if the 'tribal bonds people' won in every country across the world, they'd annihilate the planet with nukes within 5 years fighting each other. WW2 but with nukes

>>30922 Tom e you read like plebbit cancer now. Uniting to not have wars? It would be the people controlled by a social credit system and a self announced got king council on top that does whatever. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolute. All needs to stay neat and tidy so leaders can hang if they stray from their path. The eu is already too big to assure such a control mechanism and now look where von der leyen brought us to. Remember how she bought a killer vaxx with our money and forced it upon us while loosing the treaty so we dont even know what deals se made? No giving people too much power is a road to disaster. Do it like the celts did and share a room for trade and let the good parts of your culture spread naturally. It worked great for such a long period of time. Afterwards there was only struggle and the fucking romans started it.

>>30846 There is a problem rising in Europe and they now beginning the pick the fruits of unhindered immigration and the green policies. Rotterdam for example is 80% immigrant and young muslims so imagine they start chimping out.

>>12157 With the US dismantling their own world order we need to focus even more on collective defense and economic cooperation. Even if the next administration is more pro transatlantic cooperation the trust is lost. While Russia is no threat to a united Europe, it is possible that they might divide and conquer by supporting useful idiots, so I hope we can be more forceful in rooting out those traitors. When the conflict between the US and China turns hot I hope we can stay out of it.

If a German dies do I mourn? Yes I do some extended kin has died. But do I mourn them as if they were a Brit? No, no I don't. They are not a life long love like lady Britannia... Sorry Fritz. The day when that happens will never come. Freedom of movement can get easier/better/faster/cheaper, but we will never completely intermingle as Germans and Brits living virtually on top of one another. People tend to spend most of their lives in the locale they're comfortable with. Most are not vagabonds. Having a Musk hypertube or hyperloop set up wouldn't really change it. In terms of how to avoid "no more brother wars" though I wish we had more monarchies, more ethnic and religious consciousness etc. We used to decide which European power would lead or have hand over second-rate European territories via careful monarchic or autocratic marriages. Which meant less cause to fight to decide these things. I wish we were so unified as to let our successes in holy wars against the heathens decide it. Therein exceptions would be made. Richard I was a Frenchie, but we mourn his loss as much him being one of our own.

>>12157 >Is common european identity possible No. Germany and its smaller border states (Austria, Czechia, Hungary) should form a political union. The EU is trash and needs to die

>>33312 >>30846 Those anons advocate for globohomo and bought into all pro-globohomo fallacies (if we all racemix together, there will be no wars), but they think that it is ok, because they first restrict it to a continent.

>>30846 >coordinated because it's geographically small This "geographically small" area had 33% of the world wide economy just a few decades ago, before the EU exited. The EU factually makes us weaker. Ever since it exists, we lose relevance. This is what you can verify in practice. While your theory of "if we racemix, we are stronger", got proven wrong again and again. >>30922 >if every country was united with their neighbors war would be nearly impossible (unless it's overseas and those are rare). If every country was united with their neighbors we would have no countries anymore, but a one-world-government. And oversea wars are the most common wars nowadays. 10% of the Korean population got brutally slaughtered by "the West" in an oversea war. They are the most subhuman wars, because the attacker is far away, doesn't have to fear retribution and doesn't feel any connection. >>30885 >every man for himself is how you end up with a nuclear war Wrong, you end up in nuclear war if you let vassals exist. A nuclear power isn't going to attack another nuclear power. But a nuclear power is definitely going to send its vassal into war against another nuclear power, because they don't give a single fuck whether or not that vassal exists.

>>12157 Nope, we're too different, and I don't want to lose my proud Norwegian identity. Also you're not getting our cod or oil. Fuck the EU. We can be close allies without becoming one nation. Also no more shitskin immigrants or leftist censorship pushed by the EU.

No, fuck the "union". Spain defeated the muslims to get conquered by faggots? We will not be part of any other greater country, Spain already was, is and will be Una Grande y Libre. Fuck off niggers.

>>12169 >If it had stayed a customs union/free trade zone, it'd have survived everything Correct, now the union wants to play politics and is identifying itself as a military block. It's amusing to watch them collectively dig their graves.

Serious question: Why are south Italian so insecure about their non european ancestry? This retard claim that Italians have 0% near eastern ancestry and that they are whiter than Iberians and northern europeans. These people are insane. How are they any better than nordicists at this point?

What person?

>>42547 Every single Italian American seems mentally deranged

As an Italian American I can confirm. My father told me that Sicilians were niggers and spics, and real Italians were from (nice try data miners) like us. I spoke to another Italian woman who had the same attitude about me, because her ancestors were from slightly further north. Basically we all think that we're better than whoever isn't as close to the Alps as we are. I also don't think this is exclusive to Italians. Most northern cultures think less of cultures from southern, more hospitable climes; I assume for nothing more than the audacity of having it a little easier. That and we turned some of those places to penal colonies (also not a phenomena exclusive to Italy.)

>>12157 A common European identity is possible, but the current method of reaching it is backward and byzantine. The European Union should be a union of unions of unions in which leaders of these unions are elected by votes toward groups of parties (or even individuals) which have representation in the representative body of the nation and the unions. For example, a SD party could exist in Germany, a union between Germany, Austria, and Switzerland, a union between these same three states and a union of Sweden, Norway, Iceland, and Denmark, and the European Union as a whole. Over time, the lesser unions would be dissolved into large states until there's a greater federation. The EU should kick out the Irish (who may as well be British), the Turks, the Israelis, and, if necessary, the Slavs. It should also liquidate Greenland and overseas territories in the Americas to acquire capital for large infrastructure projects both at home and in Africa and buy all American military bases in Europe, including equipment. Any prevention of unification between Germany and Austria should be removed. Languages should be reconsidered to allow for a better understanding between union members until there are two-to-three different languages in the Union (Romance, Germanic, and, if Slavs are to ever be considered European, Slavic). At the highest legislative level, all representatives would be able to speak these languages. Britain should never be part of the EU. Not only is it culturally, geographically, historically, and linguistically incompatible, it has too many allegiances and interests across the world which would diminish the power of the EU. Instead, it should revisit the concept of the Imperial Federation but only for itself, Ireland, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand while also reorganizing its internal political structure to be more equal to its distinct regions. This would primarily mean parliaments for England and a new Kingdom of Northumbria as well as cleaning up the autonomy of Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands, Isle of Man, and Falklands. Tentatively, this Federation and the United States would have a mutualistic relationship as equal partners and kick out Mexico from NAFTA.

>>44236 The Irish are not on the same level as the Israelis or Turks.

>>44243 The Irish are effectively British, and most of present Irish culture is a construction. They will always be a volatile force on par with the Slavs, but given their likeness to the British, they would be better off under the British instead of Europeans.

>>44244 I'm sympathetic to your argument from a purely cultural perspective, but at this point in time the British government is absolutely the most evil White genocide oriented of all European governments.

>>44244 Why do Americans constantly keep trying to fuse countries full of people who historically wanted independence from each other? Is it just Americans trying to make geography easier for themselves by reducing the total number of countries?

>>44236 My most out there theory is that the EU (and also NATO via its predecessor the Western Union) is a crypto-Lotharingian empire, trying to win the historic Franco-German contest by stealth as a third party.

>>44318 >Why do Americans constantly keep trying to fuse countries full of people who historically wanted independence from each other? Anon, >we don't. But you have a lot of idiots who see the American experiment and think that it's possible for cultures and nations to mix such as ours. However the problem with such a conclusion is that it fails to acknowledge that (1) even the Founding Fathers seriously argued the possibility of preventing Europeans from immigrating beause of how ideologically different they were from the American colonists, (2) the people who were here wanted to be here, and (3) America is setup in such a way that the states are effectively self-governing nations unto themselves (Which is something the EU doesn't do at all, as it makes the nations subservient to the Union).

I want to learn about the muslim situation in Europe. What are some important cases of violence I can look up?

>>44335 French Teacher decapitated by a student for offending the warmongering rapist messiah of peace.

>>44358 Just for this, I am drawing a picture of Muhammad.

>>44318 Ireland is almost completely dependent on Britain, and all modern Irish culture is a construction, like I wrote above. Historical boundaries don't matter that much when there are existential threats. Modern Rightist arguments for European unification have existed since the Identitarians.

>>12157 when does the excitement start??

>>42547 Many in southern italy have northern african dna/genes (moroccan etc) so it's a bad look for them

>>44358 That actually surprised me for a moment. So these are the kind of people we're talking about

>>12157 europe is getting ready to burn again

>>44511 >>44549 me not paying attention kek >>44549

>>44549 sounds like some kind of psyop, just like nazi germany was

>>44629 LAROUCHIAN