i wonder what i wouldve thought in 2014 if i were older back then, i couldnt think for myself in 2014 just repeated what my parents said, now that i can think for myself its unbelievable to me how my parents and i are the same species, they fell for the propaganda eventhough its so brain dead, like my parents have to be retarded to fall for that shit

>>20775 Technically, I also was a young teen back in 2014. But I evolved into a White nationalist within 3 years. My prediction that we could evolve into a mass movement was technically made in 2016-2017. I was swept up in the great renaissance of pro-White thinking and saw us going from strength to strength. Easy to do when we were starting from nothing. Golden Dawn had taken 10% of the seats in Greece's government, people seemed to be waking up. Now, it's a blend of people who are awake to the negative consequences of immigration, but are still locked inside the cuckservative pasture.

>>20775 >>20777 I think people realized that trying to "wake people up" will never work. People will never wake up, they don't want to, so the people that aren't npcs abandoned politics. The best you can do is to work on yourself and be your best version so that you can help the people that are close to you. That's what I've been trying to do the last few years at least. I miss pol everyday

>>20785 You know who didn't abandon politics? The anti-Whites.

>>20774 >the potential for a mass movement was crushed in 2017 that's because the leaders didn't double down. They should have gone to Charlottesville every other weekend regardless if the repression.

>>20774 >life is disappointing no shit

We were on the cusp of something indeed, that’s why all the other shit “happened”. The movement was terminated by Q. All our hangouts obliterated since—4, 8, voat, many more. The worst is all the lessons we’ve had to learn from the fake pandemic. There’s no coming back from that. Truth was our quest, The fucking Truth we got. These 10 years have destroyed the movement. Destroyed it completely. Worst: these 10 years have destroyed the movement’s reason of being, given what we’ve learned about “the people”. We can only start from zero. Learn from this shit, start from zero. I don’t know about others, but me, after these 5 years, I do not wish to exist anymore. I do not see a possible future where I can BE. It’s impossible after the fake pandemic. I’ve been in this war since 1981, no kidding, I’ve lost everything in it. I’m done. The (Hello, I just arrived from Cuckchan, please bully me) betrayal has obliterated the possibility of a future.

Fucking hilarious: the word “n+o+r+m+i+e” renders as (Hello, I just arrived from Cuckchan, please bully me)

>>20774 You are disappointed in Trump? Trump winning (3 times) is a big win. If you doubt that, just look at how the establishment screeches. I would've preferred Ron Paul. But we have to make sure not to give the Republican Party back to Jeb and Mitt Romney and John McCain types.

>>39595 There is always some faggot on /pol/ who has to bring up Trump and how it's some le epic victory. The guy is there so right wingers can feel like they "won" and they let their guard down, while making sure society has the white males needed for jobs, wars and whatever else the system needs.

>>39609 The alternatives were Hilary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. Trump is different from establishment Republicans. They all hate him because they are all bonesmen and belong to similar groups. It is impudent to downplay it. They even tried to kill him. We have JFK if he didn't get shot as President right now.

>>39619 >bonesmen I haven't heard that one in a very long time but of course the "alternatives" were bad. But with Trump the rot never stops, people just snidely convince themselves everything is fine and the clock keeps ticking as usual.

>>20774 What happened is that the enemy sent in a whole stack of controlled opposition to coopt us and divert us into harmless bullshit while donating money to them. Elon Musk, Andrew Anglin, Mike Enoch, Colin "Millennial Woes" Robertson, Chris Cantwell, Andrew Tate, Costin "Bronze Age Pervert" Alamariu, and so forth. As Wyatt Mann would say, "it's all queers, jews and queer jews". And they specifically shaped their poisonous propaganda to appeal to US, to anons. Using anime avatars and segments called things like "Chateau Autiste" and "the Merchant Minute". They were never made to redpill anyone, they were meant to control and coopt those that were already redpilled back into a kosher route of "managed nationalism".

>>39627 absoulte truth. I thought I was only NZer here.

>>20774 I'm not so pessimistic, because a good portion of us found optimism and solutions in the pessimism. This fight has always been a push and pull from winning to losing snce it's ultimately a game of adaption. In the Ron Paul freedom loving days, we witnessed the strength of the establishment and hardened our hearts to destroy it. In the alt-right defend western civilization era, we've increasingly undermined the establishment tried working within their institutionional framework and witnessed their unfair weaponization of it, even when we won from debates to elections. Others may disagree, but I have come to understand this era as the post-defeat era. A time where many feel like recovering from this point is a foregone conclusion on almost all fronts. The transitionary period between the alt-right period and now was characterized by blackpilling fiery defiance to the point that some lashed out in frustration and ended that era. Here in this time, much of that energy has petered out, and people accepting decline and the loss of potential full salvation for our societies. In that line of thought, we disengaged from societal maintenence and participation, pessimistically mocked the clown world show, and did nothing. It felt like it was over. However, like the meme magik in 2015, so too did we manifest change in the world through our collective conscious. (I deleted a good portion of my post past this point since I think I was getting too autistic with it again). Anyway, to shorten the conclusion, things got worse from our lack of participation and pessimistic amusing remarks. We did nothing but let our enemies have their way, reaching the logical conclusions of their retardation. We let them destroy our institutions, culture, international competitiveness, freedom, patriotism, etc. Now with them seeing their own destruction and the disloyal apathy, the system has been going out of their way to appease and to appeal to us with half-measures to scoop away at the dissatisfied men who are sitting around minding their own business biding their time and strength to possibly do the usual historical system ending oopsie. Men have ess and less to stakes in this society lose, given our civilizational decline and the emergance of parallel infrastructure alongside an increasingly multi-polar world. It's afraid. It took work a long time getting to this poiny, but I believe that the exploitation of just cynically allowing (and alternatively legally, safely, and nonviolently pushing) societal decline to advance political wins by others trying to appease men on this institutionally destructive course has been the winning bread and butter of this era. In a way, it's like having the bulk majority of the previously productive and civily minded maintaining demographic of society turn themselves and others into low resource producing societally destructive niggers. In another way, it's like being Plato and being charged for corrupting the youth from turning away from the gods of the state. Passive accelerationism my beloved.

>>39550 We're in the Ghost in the Shell stage, as they wanted. We're all being primed and initiated through a Hero's Journey, Hegelian Dialect and Jacob's Ladder or Middle Pillar ritual. Best you can do is buckle in and stay true to yourself and do what is right. All of this was how they wanted it to turn out to prime the "reals". Never forget that.

>>39627 Every organic pressure release checkpoint is coopted. Look at the race war shit now. If it weren't coopted we'd get an actual organic solution to what IS organic fatigue. Every organic checkpoint has the anger and energy coopted so people forget and are pacified without the upheaval that would naturally result from them.

>>20774 >demoralization shill

>>39771 Thanks for responding, friend. I know what you say: this entire thing was a worldwide initiation ritual into freemasonry. The entire world has been initiated, each and every single individual tested, and weighed. Harrowing. The image in your post strikes. I’ve known since childhood. I know I carry an anachronistic code, the Christian Love worldview, and however impracticable I can’t express any other. I have never been able to be anything other… always to my detriment. Being, then, is suicidal and makes one such, but there’s no other way. I know what Man is. I’ve always known. This existence is a living hell and always has been.

>>39771 what do they want to accmplish with it? where does it all lead to if they succeed?

>>39550 You don't think you'd be happy in or after a collapse?

>>39559 they want you to say/type the longer and more annoying "normalfag", because "nor.mie" is a "redditor" term

>>20774 Give certain movements free speech and they somehow think the place is "the movement"

>>39559 >>41375 It's a bunch of tribal jokes, like on so many boards. Leddit = 1/\/c3l Cuckchan = n0rm13 Democrat supporting = pr3pub3sc3nt

>>40944 >what do they want to accmplish with it? where does it all lead to if they succeed? "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city."

>>41374 I used to wish for the boogaloo… There will be no collapse. They’re repacking the same old shit. “Change everything so it can all remain the same”… Our role is to row. They, they live.

>>20774 Get out while you still can. Detatch yourself from the system and move to another country where most people have a similar mentality to yours or to some kind of small community somewhere else within the US. Segregation by mentality is the only solution at this point. Let the brainrotted NPCs fight over trans rights, MIGA, pointless tarriff chimpouts, and abortion bullshit. Any other action short of a violent revolution (that only a very small minority will support and even understand if you try to explain why you want to do it) is a cope that your system can still be fixed. Too many americans are entangled in their lifestyles, by being tied to the stock market by their truck mortgages, house loans, whatever, that they can only cope about the state of things. The rest are retarded niggercattle or are too isolated from ideologies to not care at all.

>we >the movement Glownigger.

>>41446 The only reason I have doubts is the increasing technology we're living through; I don't quite know what they can and can't do just yet. Aside from that, it is collapsing right now, but the dominoes have only just started to fall. Between the demographic collapse and the incompetency crisis, the worlds 8 or 9 billion people are going to starve or kill each other, and they're going to bring down civilization while they do. Whitey has been keeping this boat afloat and whitey is aging out, dropping out, and being replaced by their employers. Let's see saul, ranjeet, paco, jamal, wang, and mohammad keep 1st world society going.

Once you get old enough you realize that we’re in the end of history. Too few people WANT to move. There will always be friction but it’ll never catch fire. Young men will get agitated, get caught up in the useless energy-wasting circus until they’ve burnt away their best years just to learn the same ultimate truth as the generation before them and the next generation arrives to burn themselves out on the same pointless circus, except a little bit poorer. Civilization will just slowly collapse and nothing will change.

>>41446 what movie this from

>>41492 https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=ax7wcShvrus Ben HUr

>>41492 >>41499

Conservacucks will never learn that ultimately their ideals are fundamentally unpopular. Most people subscribe to a progressive/progressing social contract where blatant hatred is backwards thinking. All Trump / MAGA / whatever can do is destroy the work of greater men. Sure they were able to trick a large group of people into voting for Trump 2.0. It seems really easy for a career politician to appeal to "average" people's pessimism when he's never done anything but make things worse. But now he's gone full mask off retarded mode the charade is up. MAGA was doomed to failure because Trump could never deliver on impossible pipe dreams and carefully structured lies designed to get him into office.

Nah, most white people are right leaning. Blues can only win via shitskins and cheating.

>>41475 Saint Tarrant wrote that there was no "another country" or "small community", he had traveled all over. Globalism is utterly replused by holes in the net.

>>41683 So you're saying we should not let popularity determine policy? Democracy has run its course?

>>39740 This is exactly what happened. We got too, unserious, blackpilled and demoralized and let our enemies take too many wins and control the culture war.

>>41690 When did I say that, retard-kun?

>>41683 The post 2016 push to associate anti-immigration with Christian conservatism was not adequately countered. This set us back a decade. The reason we broke into the mainstream the first time was because what we represented didn't go against progressive liberalism in any real way other than being anti-immigration instead of pro-immigration. It had an anarchist/libertarian paint job and some nazi larping sprinkled on top but that was to make it look hip and edgy and rebellious and cool. Fundamentally though it was let's keep the status quo but kick out the immigrants. Basically most people are progressive and anti immigration. Progressive nationalists, if you will.

>>41690 yes let people with more arms determine the course. What are those firearms for if not for lil bit of rebellion?

>>41709 >1pbtid ok shell-kun

>>41756 2pbtid gg

>>41690 Lol, I do! The other guy didn’t get the irony, I think… To all still brainwashed with the “democracy” dogma I recommend reading “Liberty or Equality” by Erik Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn: https://archive.today/https://ia600206.us.archive.org/23/items/bub_gb_icap6yCQx1gC/bub_gb_icap6yCQx1gC.pdf archive.org/details/bub_gb_icap6yCQx1gC I know less than 1% will actually do the effort, but that book says it all, it’s one of those few one must read in his lifetime, and if I can get 1 person, just 1 to see, to actually open his mind and SEE, well that’s what we’re here for. You already know this shit, I know. Fuck democracy.

I share a similar experience with OP. I was sure that some kind of revolution was coming but it fizzled out into nothing. At this point i do not believe any mass uprising is possible. Best case is creating infinite small cells. No one can stop a small group of people doing stuff so get your guns pick your targets and be surgical. Ted kazcynski was bombing for over 10 years surely the white man can think of a way of doing the same

>>41486 >Let's see saul, ranjeet, paco, jamal, wang, and mohammad keep 1st world society going here's the thing, i dont think they need to. things are good enough and all they need to do is maintain. innovation is a danger to the authority and all they need is slaves

>>42585 but they cant maintain think about it >no white engineers >inspectors >electricians >plumbers >repairmen >etc once it starts to fall apart, they wont be stopping it Did you know that chinese companies have a bunch of white guys running shit? They hire foreigners. Saudi arabia hires white fighter jet pilots for their air force because their own guys can't do it. Dubai is run by a bunch of german engineers. Then you have to factor in that america has been the world police for a century; without us they'll all be fighting their neighbors and unable to do global trade in any significant capacity. So if any part of their infrastructure requires globalism....poof.

>>42625 I think we should replace all American (read DEI hires) with H1Bs. They work harder for longer with less money.

>>42625 idk mate all the dentists in the uk are indians and all the medical staff are arab i think "good enough" is all they will go for

>>42746 the top 1% of india flees to white countries they are majority retarded

>>20774 it's now 11 years

>>20774 Trump AKA Zionist controlled opposition happened... butt things would be even worse if Hillary, or Gods forbid, Kamala had gotten in. Also, we lost our momentum with TikTok and whatever monopolizing the attention of younger people. Then 2020 happened (as planned). Nothing has been the same since. There are too few non-dysgenic-GMO White people (especially young people), and they are mostly demoralized, they don't network and they don't support each other... I don't have a solution, and 'network offline' isn't good enough. AI is the final nail in the coffin... reaching people online is going to be nearly impossible.

>>44884 In many ways, I've spent my youth struggling against the (((system))) and I have little good to show for it, I didn't even find any cool IRL friends.

>>44885 https://archive.today/https://states.americanstatenationals.org/ https://archive.today/https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org/ >You might find this interesting though

>>42747 1% is still 2 million and lock down showed most jobs are busy work since most of the country can sit at home and nothing changed then the other 99% are good enough, call centers and code shitters dont need much except to follow a script sorry bud but the elite can keep the best of people and the rest will just be slapping things together, the greater divide will work in their favour too

>>20774 Everything is worse and I can no longer cope about the decline of society by saying "I'm only 22 so I have time for things to get better".

>>41683 Ecofascism and its libertarian equivalent seem to be a lot more popular among the youth than I expected. While the Tedposting memes have been great, I think the footage of what goes on in China and India radicalized a lot of people and the refugee crisis and Covid pandemic further vindicated Ted's opinions on healthcare, leftism and governments in general. Leftist environmental movements, with their pro-refugee and White-targeted antinatalist positions and have been fully exposed as counterproductive to ecological protection. Anyone who can think will realize that an ideology whose followers have a population growth below replacement will not survive, and anyone who has travelled or interacted with second-generation immigrants will know that these people will never really care about the land they live on. Ya gotta find a nordic hippie chick with the hairiest pussy you can find and pump LOTS of babies into her. It's the only way to keep nature looking nice.

>>46221 oops, didn't mean to reply to >>41683