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USA/China Trade Wars Anonymous 04/16/2025 (Wed) 15:11:39 Id: d1ac08 No. 23518
Post anything related to to 2025 USA/China Trade War News, market trends, etc
China Cancels Boeing Orders China has ordered its airlines to suspend all pending orders of Boeing aircraft in response to the United States imposing a 145% tariff on Chinese goods, escalating the ongoing trade conflict between the two countries. This move directly affects the three largest Chinese carriers—Air China, China Eastern Airlines, and China Southern Airlines—which were scheduled to receive a combined 179 Boeing aircraft between 2025 and 2027.
With what will they fly then?
>>23366 https://(Webm, use an alternative platform, or use https://instances.invidio.us/)/6z15q0U_4vU https://(Webm, use an alternative platform, or use https://instances.invidio.us/)/E32TCdBgkoY Russians are finishing 5 new hyper size factories for 4 main civil airplane builders. also Chinese are going to replace US partners in production of & own. since retarded EU AND USA imposed sanctions on Eurasian Economic Union and China in 2022 and Africans love shovel own feet into EU and USA butt hole, China and Russia got literally own market where they will be welcomed. All what they have to do is not to fuck up.
I cannot believe only now that China stops getting Boeings. There were over 9000 opportunities to cancel those shit aircrafts, instead they ordered more the last few years. I always when wanting to order a flight, check what exact plane it's using for the flight. >If it's BOEING I ain't going.
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>>23401 dont forget. China needs airplanes and Airbus is not really reliable producer of those either. Beside that China has pockets full with green toilet paper. and needs to invest it before it goes to shit due inflation.
>>23350 They already massively reduced their Boeing orders in the last few years and they only have a few orders left open anyway. So this announcement is basically them just making a policy official that was unofficially already in place.
>>23417 They are now starting their own production of airplanes. Anyways, getting more Boeing is dumb as shit, especially since 2016, when the course has already been set. USA could just stop the maintenance service/parts for the Boeings of China and would do so eventually.
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>which had a total of 55 planes in inventory at the end of 2024 that it has not been able to deliver to customers, primarily those in China and India, according to the company. Hahahahaha
'Together, we will safeguard the bright prospects of our Asian family', says Xi after bilateral meet https://www.youtube(Please use archive.today)/watch?v=CLUf4hbgfj0
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China’s President Xi Jinping hails ‘new golden era’ with Malaysia during tour to shore up Beijing’s trade relationships
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"In theory, Trump is trying to use tariffs to force a revival of American manufacturing. But companies already can't get enough workers for the US factories they do have," per Bloomberg
>>23549 >companies already can't get enough workers for the US factories they do have This is not true at all. They just don't want to pay workers proper wages, and/or invest in automation.
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western luxury products ain't so gucci anymore
>Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan has said that for about a quarter of the current YC startups, 95% of the code was written by AI
>>23611 >On April 9, 2025, the U.S. government, or USG, informed NVIDIA Corporation, or the Company, that the USG requires a license for export to China (including Hong Kong and Macau) and D:5 countries, or to companies headquartered or with an ultimate parent therein, of the Company’s H20 integrated circuits and any other circuits achieving the H20’s memory bandwidth, interconnect bandwidth, or combination thereof. The USG indicated that the license requirement addresses the risk that the covered products may be used in, or diverted to, a supercomputer in China. On April 14, 2025, the USG informed the Company that the license requirement will be in effect for the indefinite future.
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BREAKING: US officials plan to use trade negotiations with more than 70 nations to ask them to disallow China to ship goods through their countries and prevent Chinese firms from being located in their territories to avoid US tariffs, per WSJ
Here's a lot of the previous posts a documenting the tariff situation: >>22524 >>22532 >>22544 >>22573 >>22585 >>22640 >>22660 >>22661 >>22663 >>22689
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>>23564 Bingo
'American Extortionists': Japan Leader's Roaring Speech Shocks Trump, U.S. Amid Tariff War https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=EIao2kkB7Gg
>>23518 Chinks and Jews… bad news!
Trade Wars exposed! 😂 80% of Gucci - Made in China 60% of Prada -Made in China Louis Vuitton - Made in China Hermes - Made in China Birken - MADE IN CHINA Shipped to Europe to get rebranded, then a “made in France or Milan, Italy” gets sewn onto the goods. Retail for hundreds of thousands They make endorsement deals with elite do nothing Hollyweird snobs and shameless prostitutes like the Kardashians, to represent them. Now they are all panicking! Hahahahahaha Oh and the Lululemon leggings that retail for $118…um, Made in China. China is now selling these items for $5 FACTORY DIRECT They’re all punching the air right now after Trump’s exposed them!
>>25160 Only idiots still don't know. But cattle, especially Western cattle loves being brainwashed and being pay piggies. Ironically they are being slaves, while continously projecting.
Boomers and Jews gave China most of our manufacturing factories. This is their fault for China being in the position it is in today.
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>>23518 the cuck clock is ticking, Xi has no other option than to cave China buys almost nothing from the US so their tariffs are meaningless. US tariffs on China is going to bring their industry to a screaching halt Time for Xi to lose face
Nvidia CEO Pledges to Continue Serving Chinese Market https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=Ynw2ui_34Ts not like this MAGA bros
When will grocery prices go down?
i hold firm that asian countries will never get along
Never. All of Western civilization is just a bit money printing trough which feeds most of the the economy which means prices will continue to go up and never down. We are thoroughly captured by this public sector spending trap. Give up and accept it. Don’t like it? The revolution button is over there — if you’re not going to press it then sit the fuck down.
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>>26019 >USA got the money printing machine >stronger army of the wolrd >almost 0% inflation against the word <Fucked by a bunch of billonaires and jews who want even more money sorry pal, the entire world is angry, looks like a colapse similar to the USSR, first slow and then quickly
also, the first signal is inflation BTW
Jewnald Blumpf vs Winnie the Chink 2 Electric Boogaloo
>>26265 Merged
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I think we can all see the writing on the wall, Xi is nothing more than a sweatshop owner who is no longer needed....as shown by Trump tariffs. So how long are the Chinese people going to pretend that Xi was ordained by god to rule over them?????
2 more weeks
>>26362 They seem to be content with him. He has gone longer than 2 terms for the first time since Mao. Will he go for 4 in 2027?
>>26019 Merged
>>23549 8D chess with paralel universe time travel
>>23549 US population is 41% Euro diaspora, 46% literate and 0% numerate (25% answering a 4-answer question correctly is statistically indistinguishable from random guessing) They have a 0% chance of reindustrializing without spending a couple of decades on training an entire new workforce
>>25784 Have you thought why China buys nothing from the US while the US buys everything from China? Do you think China needs digital numbers more than the US needs every manner of physical goods?
The Trump administration on Thursday announced fees on Chinese-built vessels after a United States Trade Representative investigation by the Biden-Trump administrations found China’s acts, policies and practices were unreasonable and burden or restrict U.S(Please use archive.today)merce. “Ships and shipping are vital to American economic security and the free flow of commerce,” said U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer. “The Trump administration’s actions will begin to reverse Chinese dominance, address threats to the U.S. supply chain, and send a demand signal for U.S.-built ships.” https://www.cnbc(Please use archive.today)/2025/04/17/trump-administration-announces-fees-on-chinese-ships-docking-at-us-ports.html
>>26477 I think this is 99.9% certain that he will get a fourth term. Like Rome appointed dictators during times of crisis, so the CPC wants a dictator during the "Thucidides trap" phase of competition with the US.
>>26362 Dude isn't going anywhere. He's too popular and oversaw the relative biggest jump in chink prosperity. He even made preparations for trade disruptions starting from Trump's first term by developing relations and infrastructure with other countries and being overall more neutrally reserved when it comes to global conflicts. The threshold for economic pain is high over there. They have strong enough nationalism and have ptsd from the century of humiliation to hold out another 4 years.
>>26072 >sit down That's what most of us just started doing. We started doing nothing after they did their hardest to reduce us from trying to do something. Now our leaders are in panic mode trying men to start participating again. We've been passively winning as their bullshit started imploding from us doing literally nothing except laugh at them.
https://www.citriniresearch(Please use archive.today)/p/a-tale-of-two-tariffs You mongs need to read this
>>26362 I don't get why he didn't just buy into it, would've done great for his global rep if he made the average pleb assume he was friendly like pooh.
<Chinese TikTokers SCHOOL Trump Supporters About Their OWN Country: “You Guys are Really Dumb” https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=uf_GCOSZ2bA
>>27035 >Have you thought why China buys nothing from the US while the US buys everything from China? Yes I have, have you?? China does not make anything the US really needs and that could be made just as well ANYWHERE ELSE. As we speak millions of chinese factory workers are doing the walk of shame back to their tiny villages because they cant live in the big city anymore. >Do you think China needs digital numbers more than the US needs every manner of physical goods? Yes! China does need digital numbers more than the US needs their cheap Walmart shit because the world is run by the US dollar and China cant function without dollars. Also most of Chinese exports go to the US so they cant shift their exports anywhere else. checkmate! Trump said this will end in 3 to 4 weeks and he is right. In less than a month Winnie the Poo is going to be working as a janitor
>>28811 >Trump said this will end in 3 to 4 weeks and he is right. In less than a month Winnie the Poo is going to be working as a janitor anon? I'll give you a hint. Trump put a pause on his absurd electronic tariffs to this country. holy copium lol
>>23549 wow who'd of expected a population of largely pampered narcissists wouldn't want to work in a factory job even at 10x what they pay chinese workers. this tariff decision is so stupid what they're effectively importing is foreign borderline slave labor and they're throwing that away when the US doesn't have any slaves no more. >>25784 >>US tariffs on China its going to bring your economy to a screeching halt. the chinese retaliatory tariffs are there to save face but it doesn't change the fact that you're the ones shooting yourselves in the food
>>28811 >>China does not make anything the US really needs and that could be made just as well ANYWHERE ELSE the slave labor's the important thing and impossible to do domestically in the US. Meanwhile US has literally a negative economy that doesn't even pay off the debt on its interests and buys abroad to make up the deficit. US is a parasite on global economics. China is going to probably get hurt more but it doesn't matter they were a country that already intentionally tanked its own currency to gain trade dominance. US on the other hand is going to the poor house. here's your dollar relative to some of your largest trading partners in the past month
>>28975 >China is probably going to get hurt more Why? China can just go steal all the US IP that the US private corpos have graciously given them and then go do trade with literally any other country. The fact is the US has alienated itself from everyone who isn't Russia, Israel or El Salvador. Which makes for a great opportunity for literally any other country to go do business without the US.
>>28991 because of existing inventory and orders, The chinese sellers have a huge stock of orders they can't offload and some of the items being transported by boat are just straight up being dumped into the ocean because it'd be cheaper to refund the original purchaser then go through with the tariffs. If we're looking down the road long-term I think china's probably better off but in the short term they'll be hurt more then the US by the tariffs.
>>23549 Import more Mexicans,niggers are not an option
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>Japan won’t just keep conceding to US demands to reach a deal over tariffs, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba says Japan just gave Trump their middle finger: https://x(Please use archive.today)/business/status/1914211477801632116?t=rE6pslOjGKWYfFN24dicCg&s=19
>Investors pour into European equity funds, flee US on tariff woes https://archive.ph/arLmX <European equity funds drew massive inflows in the week ended April 16, while US funds faced hefty outflows, as investors continued to shift capital on concerns over US trade tariffs and mounting worries over the strength of the US economy. <According to LSEG Lipper data, investors bought a net $11.13 billion in European equity funds and $3.64 billion in Asian equity funds. However, US equity funds witnessed an outflow of $10.62 billion. >Thai-US trade talks no longer on April 23, sources say https://archive.ph/Z9C3E <Thailand's trade talks with the United States will no longer take place on April 23, two government sources told Reuters on Monday. >US Stock Futures, Dollar, Treasuries Tumble On Powell Punt Panic; Gold, Bitcoin Soar https://archive.ph/qwTpl <Trump, rightfully frustrated that the central bank hasn’t moved to lower interest rates as even BofA's Michael Hartnett noted over the weekend... <Fed cut 50bps in Sept when stock market at record high, Atlanta Fed was forecasting +3% US GDP growth; Fed now determined not to cut rates after 20% market plunge, Atlanta Fed forecasting -3% GDP growth <... posted on social media last week that Powell’s “termination cannot come fast enough!” and on Friday, Trump top economic advisor Kevin Hassett said the president is studying whether he’s able to fire Powell. <Rebuking the Fed undermines the principle of central bank independence and risks politicizing US monetary policy in a way that markets will find deeply unsettling, said Christopher Wong, a currency strategist at Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. “Frankly, firing Powell stretches belief,” said Wong. “If the credibility of the Fed is called into question, it could severely erode confidence in the dollar.” <Trump would put the credibility of the dollar on the line and destabilize the US economy if he fired Powell, French Finance Minister Eric Lombard warned. Fed Chicago President Austan Goolsbee warned against efforts to curtail the central bank’s independence. “There’s virtual unanimity among economists that monetary independence from political interference, that the Fed or any central bank be able to do the job that it needs to do, is really important,” Goolsbee said on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday. <In a sign that investors are rotating investments away from the US, Deutsche Bank AG said that Chinese clients have reduced some of their Treasuries holdings in favor of European debt. European high-quality bonds, Japanese government bonds and gold are likely to be the potential choices for investors as alternatives to Treasuries, said Lillian Tao, head of China macro and global emerging market sales at the bank. >Top Chinese, Indonesian officials forge closer security links https://archive.ph/ZZnMV <China and Indonesia held their first meeting of senior ministers under a format agreed to in 2024, a sit-down that coincides with Beijing’s push to woo Asian nations and offset trade tensions with the US. <Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in a briefing in Beijing after the talks on April 21 that the international landscape faced the “severe impact of unilateralism and hegemonism”, adding that “the more complex and volatile the external environment is, the more significant for China and Indonesia to pursue solidarity and cooperation”. <Mr Wang was joined by Chinese Defence Minister Dong Jun, and Foreign Minister Sugiono and Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin of Indonesia. >China Is In Economic Dire Straits And They're No Longer Able To Hide It https://archive.ph/bOb5z <Overall tariffs on Chinese goods currently sit at 124%, but some goods will be taxed as high as 245%. Trump has given a 1 month exemption on electronic parts and devices, perhaps to offer manufacturers like Apple, Nvidia and Microsoft time to arrange sourcing from alternative vendors. The problem for Chinese manufacturers is not just the tariffs but the uncertainty of timing and sudden changes to policy. They say no one is willing to make a big move on production or shipments until the trade landscape becomes more predictable. This means most Chinese factories are frozen in stasis. <Trump's tariff actions are widely criticized by the media as erratic or poorly planned, but what they don't understand is that uncertainty is the real leverage, not the tariffs. What seems like a spur of the moment decision or a sudden capitulation on Trump's part can be highly effective at throwing foreign governments and corporations off balance. Globalism requires a perpetual status quo, change of any kind is like holy water to a vampire. <Chinese shipments are on standby and orders are frozen. Nothing is moving. <At bottom, China will not be able to survive tariffs on the current scale for long (a single year of 124% tariffs would crush China's economy beyond repair). The US is 15% of China's export market, which may not sound substantial but their next largest trading partner (outside of Hong Kong) is Vietnam at 4% of exports. In terms of domestic buying, China is 11% of the global consumer market which is not too shabby, but compared to the US with its 30%-35% global consumer market share there is no chance that the Chinese will be able to fill the void domestically and stay afloat. <But the situation is far worse than most people know... >Ishiba Expresses Surprise at Trump Joining Tariff Talks, Says Japan-U.S. Deal Could Be Model Case for the World https://archive.ph/pgsbJ <Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba said Monday that he had not expected U.S. President Donald Trump to participate in the Japan-U.S. tariff negotiations held in Washington last week. <“I’ve never seen a [U.S.] president show up right from the start [of negotiations like that]. It was way beyond my expectations,” Ishiba said at a meeting of the House of Councillors Budget Committee on Monday morning. <Ishiba and economic revitalization minister Ryosei Akazawa, who traveled to the United States for the negotiations, were among those attending intensive deliberations at Monday’s Budget Committee meeting. The session focused on the Trump administration’s tariff measures. <“President Trump prioritizes the negotiations with Japan. A decision will be made through the president’s leadership,” Ishiba said, analyzing Trump’s appearance at the talks. “I think these are the two meanings behind it.” <Akazawa said, “The government will work as one to give the highest priority and our full efforts [to the ongoing talks with Washington].” >Japan’s Nikkei Stock Average Falls over 1% as Stronger Yen Pressures Exporters https://archive.ph/vwqfT <Japan’s Nikkei share average dropped more than 1% on Monday, weighed down by a stronger yen that pressured exporters, while investors looked ahead to currency talks between Japanese and U.S. finance chiefs later this week. <The Nikkei ended 1.3% lower at 34,279.92, while the broader Topix slipped 1.2% to 2,528.93. <“Investors bought back stocks as the Nikkei extended losses during the session, but the buy-back did not last long. But it is not like what happened earlier this month, where any drop in the index drove further sell-offs,” said Shuutarou Yasuda, a market analyst at Tokai Tokyo Intelligence Laboratory. <“The market was not ready to become a risk-on mode yet.” >Beijing warns nations not to cut US trade deals at China's expense
[Expand Post]https://archive.ph/ruf0K <China warned countries against striking deals with the US that could hurt Beijing’s interests, upping the ante in the trade war with Washington and showing how others risk getting caught in the middle. <While it respects nations resolving their trade disputes with the US, Beijing “resolutely opposes any party reaching a deal at the expense of China’s interests", the Ministry of Commerce said in a statement on Monday. <If that happens, Beijing “will never accept it and will resolutely take reciprocal countermeasures", the ministry added. “China is willing to strengthen solidarity and coordination with all parties, jointly respond and resist unilateral bullying acts.” >Malaysia Airlines eyes new Boeing jets should China reject them https://archive.ph/QORlK <Malaysia Airlines' parent company, Malaysia Aviation Group, is talking to Boeing about acquiring new jets that become available if Chinese airlines stop taking deliveries, its managing director told Malaysian state news outlet Bernama. <Boeing appears to be returning some of its 737 MAX jets to the Unted States from China, where it had placed them ahead of delivery to Chinese customers. <Neither Boeing nor China has commented on why the jets are returning, and it is not clear which party made the decision. <Malaysia Airlines did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. >Trump tariffs stunt US toy imports as sellers play for time https://archive.ph/TMA66 <"Things have ground to a halt," said Staph, chief executive of Duncan Toys Company, which has a warehouse in Indiana. <With his products now facing a steep 145% levy, "we stopped shipping goods into the US," he added. <Nearly 100 days into President Donald Trump's White House return, US businesses are scrambling to adjust to fast-changing trade policies. <The $40 billion toy industry, which heavily relies on production in China, is hard hit, companies tell AFP. >South Korea Finds ‘Made in Korea’ Breaches Intended to Avoid US Tariffs https://archive.ph/Rox1m <South Korea has found rising attempts to disguise foreign products as Korean exports, mostly from China, to avoid U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, its customs agency said on Monday. <The Korea Customs Service said it has found 29.5 billion won ($20.81 million) worth of country-of-origin violations from the first quarter, with U.S.-bound shipments accounting for 97% of the total, after a special probe last month. <That compared to a total of 34.8 billion won worth of violations for all of 2024, among which U.S.-bound shipments accounted for 62%.
>>32505 >Japan won’t just keep conceding to US demands to reach a deal over tariffs, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba says Not surprised. I saw a video clip along the same lines from their parliament 2 days ago. Now they're just making it official. As glad as I am that there's finally action being taken against China, the fact is that the manner in which Trump has rolled out his tariffs (and subsequent pullbacks of them) has been poorly thought out. His immigrant crackdown is the same. Everything sounds good on paper but then is horribly implemented because of a lack of nuance. This is what happens when your government is headed by a combination of Pajeets, Zionists and Elon Musk. More people need to speak out against the crackdown on free speech and the desecration of the US Constitution just because the Jews hate the First Amendment. Japan should demand that the US lift its sanctions that prevent Japan from buying Iranian oil and gas. That's what Trump did in his first term. He removed the waivers that allowed the likes of Japan, South Korea and India to buy Iranian energy. China is basically Iran's only large energy customer and gets oil at super discounts, which partly contributes to their edge in manufacturing. Oil and gas prices are kept artificially high because of the wars on Iraq and Libya and especially because of the sanctions on Iran and Venezuela preventing the latter two from selling their energy nor properly repairing and expanding their extraction. These artificially high prices are what makes US and Canadian energy profitable but everyone suffers while Jews and Chinks profit.
>>23549 All those 20 million illegals coming into our country didn't help huh? I guess we need 20 million more. Fucking jews...
>>26362 >When is Xi going to get shown the door? He's not. He made himself "core leader" -- literally, Mao 3.0, after the 2.0, Xiaoping -- and he's purged much of the Jiang Zemin opposition. Unless the country collapses into another hundred-year war, his hold is all but inextricable... His death is far more likely than a Hu Jintao style "removal".
>>26362 <1pbtid <days ago Found another. This is a problem that must be crushed now or 8moe pol is going to be indistinguishable from 4pol in days.
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>>26477 >>27297 He's a "core leader" -- translation: He'll be dear leader until his death / death of the nation.
>>32598 imaginary line has to go up or you will never make it goy!!!
>>23549 in practice, i think manufacturing companies will leave the united states because suddenly it costs too much to import materials >>32598 unironically yes and why not
>>23518 What the hell does a "service-based" economy like USA even contribute? Russia provides the gas and fertilizer, China provides the manufacturing, USA provides the.. banking? How are you going to employee 300 million blacks and Latinos with financial services, especially when most countries don't actually want any of these services anyway they are just forced into it as a form of tribute.
Bessent: No one thinks current status on China tariffs is sustainable https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=EXJiua767Jg >Trump says: Tariff on China won’t be as high as 145% >Trump has said that tariffs on China will come down and he won't play hardball.
>>35164 Why the fuck does trump keep backing down.
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anyone here still use the internet of the 70s?
>>35202 As explained here >>32582. Trump's policy rollouts are retarded because of a lack of nuance. If I was handling tariffs, it would be something along the lines of: 30% the first 60 days from implementation, 50% from day 61 to day 150, 75% from day 151 to day 210, 100% from day 211 to day 250, 125% from day 251 to day 300, 145% from day 301 to day 340, 245% from day 341. This is while factoring in that there's going to be US mid-term elections in 2026. The point of the gradual increase is to not completely screw over existing orders and commitments. Smaller companies and products can still receive their goods from China and deliver their goods to retailers, while all companies alike start looking for alternative manufacturers outside China. Cell phones, computers and semiconductors would be exempt for a few years.
<he backed down on global tariffs >he backed down on firing Powell <he backed down on China megatariffs kek Trump really is a retard AND a pussy
>>35379 the trump administration's foreign policy is like a schizo gf
>>35348 The purpose of the tariffs is to set a tax to generate revenue. That was made clear when 10% was hit on the entire planet — because they knew that the tariffs would be evaded which would defeat their purpose (to generate income). That’s also why the Legislature allowed it — because they’re too weak politically to enact a proper tax. The US is broke and the entire system knows it and they’re getting desperate to get ahead of it. Presidents are powerless, no one sets policy they happen via osmosis and lowest common denominator. Modern civilization is much too large and too wealthy with too many intertwined interests, no one can do anything except spend more.
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>>23518 China will win
if this retarded nigger backs off now no country will respect him for the remainder of his presidency.
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>>35559 its over
>>35536 Then explain everything else that's transpired. The 10% tariff on everyone makes perfect sense since the US was exceptional in having low to no tariffs while everyone else had theirs. The problem is everything else that's transpired, including constantly changing policies and rates.
If 10% was the goal all along he could have just outright impose the 10% without all this nonsense and cause a near capitulation of the whole market. There was a power move at play, he did wanted to drag China to the table by force like all the other countires, but being only 15% of their total export and 3% of their gpd was a shit hand to play.
Trump and Xi are best friends. The trade war is waged ostensibly to bring manufacturing back to the US, but in reality its purpose is to: 1. Extract tax revenue to weaken small businesses but strengthen large corporations who are exempt from the tariff, or are able to survive nonetheless. 2. Foster horizontal resistance between US and Chinese citizens in the forever wars. >It's called consolidation; strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.
>>35838 Any theories that involve Trump not being a fucking retard is pure fantasy.
>>35838 I hope this is false, because if true, then we are even more fucked than what I thought we were >>35559 >vouched for Ukraine >pretends he wasnt now that he lost his bet on Ukraine >vouched for the US war against Taliban >lost the bet on that, made sure Biden took care in his stead >tiktok fiasco where the CEO didnt back down despite all the efforts >"allies" already considering an alternative without them >he is now just putting an act to keep the morale of its supporters enough that they won't lost any trust its obvious the faggot lost all respect to anyone who's not retarded, the US government has basically been in a state of damage control for years already, its so bad they are actually pushing censorship against the negativity among journalists as well as tourists visiting the US >>35597 also, the US expenses in other countries pretty much made things way worse
>>23549 Not even in theory. It's just a claim Trump made. He has done nothing to actually support manufacturing. Right now manufacturers are going bankrupt left and right because of Trump's supply chain disruption.
>>23564 Yes it is true. Workers are not made from money, you don't magically produce more workers by throwing money at the problem. You only cause a labor cost inflation with that.
>>35544 China has already won. Trump has maneuvred himself into an impossible position. The international institutional investors treat the US like a problematic emerging economy and transfer their capital to less risky countries. Trump can only stop the de-dollarization of the global economy by admitting that he made a terrible mistake. He's not going to do that. The oligarchs will literally have to kill him for a policy change.
>>26019 Go down? Kek. Inflation will be solved but you still need to pay more
>>36039 There wouldnt be a supply chain disruption if there was a manufacturing base in america, but due to decades of effectively promoting the outsource of manufacturing to all other parts of the world because it is cheaper to use slave labor and the ship goods over an ocean to then get distributed throughout the continent than it is to pay a fair wage and abide by the US regulatory agencies we are in a situation like this, the tariffs just bring that out into the open for the retards that think everything was hunky dory
So-called pro-Americans don't realize that bringing back all the manufacturing base is a pipe dream. Not only do companies have more incentive to just fine cheap work-arounds to the tariffs rather than spending hundreds of billions of dollars and many years building manufacturing warehouses that will be made irrelevant when a Democrat inevitably wins the next election and gets rid of all these stupid as fuck tariffs anyway? AND even if we did it would just cause mass deflation because people wouldn't want to buy their electronics at 2x the price of everyone else in the world.
>>23366 There is Comac C919, the government will just ramp up Comac to increase production of C919 and they will be good. I doubt that China will rely a lot on Europe because US doing this shit is also affecting west-east trust.
>>36280 >There wouldnt be a supply chain disruption if Questionable and irrelevant anyway. There is one. Trump caused it. That's what I support him for btw. I want to see the US burn down with no survivors. I hope he declares war on Iran and China too.
>>36350 >Iran It won't be long now. The Israeli's are already making plans to send their pet American army in to blow the shit out of Iran's defenses / nuclear enrichment program.
>>36352 >>36352 Pete Hegseth was against the Iran invasion. Now they are purging him. JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard are also against the war, let's see what happens with them...
>Trump cucked to China lmao
So has the outcome of the trade war already been decided? I'm seeing headlines about Bessent and Trump making statements indicating they're giving up
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imagine if the chinks don't lower their tariffs at all after this
>>36398 Pete Hegseth is not against the Iran invasion. Hegseth is very publically dickriding Netanyahu at every single opportunity. It's genuinely pathetic. He's being removed because he keeps embarrassing the Trump Establishment with these repeated Signal security breaches that are hilariously way worse than Hillary's email server was. But this is all normal for the Trump Admin. Virtually nobody in Trump's original term made it through the 4 years either.
>>36513 The outcome was decided before it even began. That's how retarded tariffs, especially Trump's brand of tariffs were. Everyone who's taken high school macroecomics could have told you that.
>>36350 War against China will be suicide, is not the same China of XX century, will be 200-300 millions of chinks against 300,000-400,000 American foot soldiers, 100,000 of them retarded (Mcnamara Morons equivalent), society without fidelity to the flag (like the old baby boomers Hippies) will be harsh to recruit, Vietnam was the las proof of the "dead" of boots on the grounds policy, the only las option is bring the Chinese made the mistake to invade Taiwan or Taiwan start the war against China similar to Russia-Ukraine war
>>36513 It has been decided from day 1. Any half-decent economist could have told you that Trump's so-called "plan" is a guaranteed failure. But Trump picked his advisors and henchmen by loyalty instead of expertise. Nobody in his politbüro is skilled and based enough to yell at him when he's acting retarded. He implemented his idiotic tariffs without any resistance. Now the US is bleeding capital, the world is reorganizing for global markets without a US and Trump can't stop it without implicitly admitting what an incompetent clown he is. He's not going to do that. No amount of lies can possibly cover up the mess he created. It's glorious.
>>36546 If I were in China's stead, I would make the Americans pay the idiot tax. They want access to the Chinese consumer market, the biggest market on the planet? They can have it in exchange for a few small concessions. Trump could sign a minerals deal that hands over all mining rights and mining industries on US territory to China. That would be a sufficient incentive for Xi to call him and help him with the little boo boo he made there.
>>36722 >a guaranteed failure. But Trump picked his advisors and henchmen by loyalty instead of expertise. Nobody in his politbüro is skilled and based enough to yell at him when he's acting retarded. He implemented his idiotic tariffs without any resistance. Now the US is bleeding capital, the world is reorganizing for global markets without a US and Trump can't stop it without implicitly admitting what an incompetent clown he is. He's not going to do that. No amount of lies can possibly cover up the mess he created. It's glorious. I think a direct war between USA China is not going to happen. It will assure mutual destruction. Neither a war with Russia will happen
>>36722 The Americans have less than 50000 men in reserve. They've been suffering from recruit shortages for decades. When they turned their military into a homosex orgy, they lost the support of all the rural conservative families that have been feeding the military with recruits for half a dozen generations. They're not coming back. In a direct war against a superpower like China or Russia, with losses on the level of 10000 a day, America would run out of power very quickly.
>>36306 Biden didn't remove a single one of Trump's tariffs
My understanding of China’s power reality is limited. What is the relationship between the oligarchs and the CCP? From an outsider’s perspective it seems like the CCP is on top with the oligarchs like the junior partners — but is that reality? If the CCP is in control and Xi is really in charge of the CCP, why is their military such a disaster of corruption? Why are the state companies all disasters of corruption?
>>36758 War against China would be a disaster. The chinks would sabotage our infrastructure and electric grid and leave us at the mercy of violent niggers and spics unless the cities get nuked
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>>36786 CCP lack of more control in their provinces, so their secret police is more glutted in doing their jobs and fuck up the corruption vs USA had glowing niggers even in forums-ONG's and any shit you could think of, that why we see some keks about their cotton fields made from iron rods and rocks to rip off Chinese government, the only last thing China need to mastering is metallurgic, their clones of Russia jets had weaker components, the internal combustion cars are shit, and any tall building is a danger in progress
Trump cant lose the tariff war, let me spell it out to you: 1) Chink products are dirt cheap, prices for household products could go up by 100% or more and even poor people wont feel it. Household products are so cheap they dont even factor in as inflation. All US inflation is due to real estate and food prices. See picrel as an example 2) Trump knows the $USD as world reserve currency is going to die soon so this is the perfect time to go around blasting everyone with tariffs and profit from it. It would be stupid to not use it now rather than wait till its not there anymore. 3) Trump could destroy Chinese industry if he wanted to, there is nothing to gain by doing that. Already millions of Chinese factory workers have lost their job. Xi has chosen a the grin-and-bear-it because Chinese cant lose face and would rather live in a gutter than admit defeat. 4) Even if somehow Trump loses the tariff war its still a win because it will revive local industry. Right now the US is dangerously dependent on imports and cheap goods are actually causing inflation by making fake wealth for US and causeing an artificially high cost of living.
>>36905 Massive cope You're living in the past. China is making high end stuff: cars, cpu chips, software
>>36905 >Even if somehow Trump loses the tariff war its still a win because it will revive local industry that is a retarded take, local industry would only be able to sell domestically at higher costs than before. Leaving the US economy weaker than ever, Americans poorer than ever, and if there is no exit planned no way to recover back to it's status as the economic word leader.
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>>36905 you miss the point an eat all the Muttmerica propaganda, the wealth of USD is divided in >Arabs Jews fucked up this one in the 70's, so many dollars still funneling trough Arabs nations >China Making cheap stuff to USA, to sell around the world, from shit thier to the high end stuff, still a win-win from both sides, you only put a stamp or designed in "Ohio" to transform China made shit in to USA made kek, China is the billonaire's factory in the last 30 years >Jews all the fucking banking sector no more or less. >USA citizens still even the USD wealth is fucked ripped off by only 2 nations, billonaires and jews, you still above to the 90% of the entire world population. These old baby boomers like Trump want all Alpha-Gen Z's be the next Chinese in USA soil kek, they sell the future of their youngster, is more likely your grandpa sell his house and move to Mexico/south Asia to even give you a heritage, that's the mindset of that generation, The only exit is reset the system, dumping the dollar and call it a day, it will be hard for everyone if you dare, but still USD still a comfy reserve currency for USA citizens. >or cut the fucking expenses all around, to even the backing sector pray for you money pre-1999, when Glass-Steagall still functioning as a safety net to avoid any nigger, withe trash and illegal immigrant give away credits, and Americans do not need to full a store renting full of garbage Chinese.
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Which not use any uranium materials. That's mean it's nuclear bomb without radiation. And it's not violent against nuclear treaty. Don't you dare made us angry Americans. Or your army will gone into dust.
>>37129 Fake. Gay.
>>37129 Source? Also China already won the trade war. Why would they attack their own cash cow?
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cool keep us posted, OP!
>>37010 <also sorry for my engrish almost of 3 hours of cries and why the electronic goyslop is so dirty cheap, many people want to return to 90's prices at cruise speed, but also want 0%inflation at Chinese price kek https://(Webm or) USE https://instances.invidio.us/watch?v=/1W_mSOS1Qts bonus sears 1991 wish book catalog (goyslop from the 90's, when the fear of Japan was in his peak, even Japan products were more expensive than China of today) https://archive(Please use archive.today)/details/1991-sears-christmas-wish-book_202208/page/n19/mode/2up
>>26477 He is competent and wildly popular. Why replace him with an inexperienced nobody? Only an American would do such a stupid thing.

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>>37129 >>>/pol/37129 Hi Thai Furry Fren. I was going to take a break. But I promised to draw a bit every day. So here I am. :3 Sorry I can't draw digitally now. Thus improvised kindergarten art supplies. 3rd world poorfag income so broke I can't afford a Wacom or Apple tablet now. My potato PC is too low spec. I'm currently phone fagging. https://inv.nadeko.net/S5iLR6Da1i0 https://inv.nadeko.net/c56TpxfO9q0 https://inv.nadeko.net/fHrY6rM7uH0 https://inv.nadeko.net/VgYEvbVPhas Most "le based" /pol/ack redpills and troon stuff I posted on 4/pol/ are actually ironic jokes. My Dad is Japanese East Asian. My mom is a Brazilian Latina. I'm Hapa. Half-Asian like the YouTubers Joey Bizinger, Markplier and Ruri Ohama. Half-Hispanic like Nick Fuentes. I live in 3rd world Brazil now. But I plan to go back to my Homeland Japan someday after I finish college. ( o x o ) https://nitter.net/Pipkinpippa
>>37422 Why did your dad choose to coom in a goblina, anon
>>23518 The US NEEDS to produce steel I have nothing, please continue as you were
>>35544 China needs to submit to Islam and mobotheism aka goyim.os
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>>37146 >>37158 https://economictimes.indiatimes(Please use archive.today)/news/defence/chinas-new-weapon-shocks-the-world-is-this-hydrogen-bomb-a-game-changer-for-modern-warfare/articleshow/120475868.cms?from=mdr >>37422 Is that a real picture? It's not safe to post information about yourself online. I myself am half Chinese, born in Thailand. I'm not interested in any memes. It's not worth paying attention to, it's nonsense. And I'm too old to waste time on it. Good luck in Brazil >>37429 You might get stomped if you talk like that to anyone in real life. Stop doing bad verbal karma.
>>37394 welp, first timer error in glowpol, this one need 2 layers of "security" kek, also spaguetti code do not let me delete/edit my post sears catalogue 1991 with a bunch JS broken shit, follow the original url from archive (Please use archive.today) https://archive.ph/GoLBs and gamer nexus report, a 3 hours of cries in PC parts market https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=1W_mSOS1Qts Trump tried the old reliable it was used against Japan, but fail miserable, Japan was a conquered country bowed to USA since they lost the war, and China do not want a bad deal like the Plaza Accord equivalent
>>23549 >(((bloomberg))) this is complete and utter bullshit real truth nuke: if there was an actual worker shortage, they wouldn't drug test for weed to get a job this is only a ploy to import a billion jeets, slants, and niggers to destroy the West and line their pockets with a few extra shekels before they themselves get consumed by the asian and african hordes the real reason the economy is in the gutter is because they keep hiring incompetent niggers it's ridiculous
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>>34853 >What the hell does a "service-based" economy like USA even contribute? The US sells currency transactions between 3rd parties. I believe it was rep Massie that said that this currency exchange business nets US banks 3% of global GNP per year. It also means that the federal reserve can print dollars and digitally coin clip the worlds dollar reserves, meaning that America is coin clipping the entire world.
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>>38608 Recycling used hardware and batteries was shown once in a documentary linked to Musk, but really doubt the output of recovered materials is big enough to matter in the industry requests of raw materials, so this may all be an other advertisting stunt of Musk using the american government to fuel his own business link btw? was this one? https://www.yahoo(Please use archive.today)/news/us-extracts-rare-earths-hard-213310665.html The real usa alternative to the chinese rare materials exports, is in ukraine, not surprisingly, that was one of the reasons the fake conflict with russia was started to start with
>>38656 fuckshit https://www.yahoo dot com/news/us-extracts-rare-earths-hard-213310665.html
>>38608 Seems like a nothing burger. The output couldn't be that much, scaling up cost effective infrastructure feels difficult, and there's no way it's cheaper than just extracting new rare earths, especially compared to china. I remember how some Scandinavian countries boasted about their sustainable resource extractions and how we found many deposits in the US and others too. From what I remember, rare earths are basically everywhere and the only thing that really matters is the extraction process of which is dirty and China supposedly has a more sophisticated extraction process in this field due to have been doing it for a long time with their market share. This is all just to say that this dumb nigger is calling you a giga-dumb nigger.
>>38608 how are they going to get americans to start recycling? i'm the head of the hoa in my subdivision and i always get into several fights every month with some fuckhead who tries to use the brown recycling bins as a regular trash can.
>>38608 >>38662 Fucking finally! >>38681 >>38656 >but really doubt the output of recovered materials is big enough to matter in the industry requests of raw materials It actually is, the problem is that much of the commodities market is flooded with either more resources that what actually exist or competing against countries like West Taiwan who mandate that the price be unrealistically low. And the result is that it's "cheaper" for companies to throw away electronics that are just teaming with silver and copper than it is to recycle them for newer purposes. >>38747 >how are they going to get americans to start recycling? You people give a financial incentive, such as the reason why people STILL recycle aluminum cans. However you get retards in charge of such recycling efforts, and nearly all of them fail because companies are charging money to recycle the material for people.
recycling is fucking hard with hard mixed materials, is not the same recycling metals and some type of plastics vs a motherboard and high mixed materials, you need very toxic process (acids), that's why many "recycling facilities" were a big lie to clean the "name" of the plastic industries, and sent all the garbage to China until China ban that practice, and later on sent it to south Asia to be dumped in the ocean, and many electronics were send to Africa, is the same process to make coal to oil, yes you can do it but not economical feasible and the very last resource during a war.
>>38681 also, you forget that even silver and gold exist at microscopical level in the entire world, more common than rare earths, gold and silver had their pockets during at certain conditions, water, heat and quartz to form veins of precious metals, so even rare earths had their amalgam materials, instead finding it at atoms levels, you will find them in grams levels per ton.
Chinese social media nicknames for Trump >10,000 tariff grandpa >King know it all >Trump the nation builder, when the nation being built is China
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>>39105 my favorite is japan's nickname. it's used both seriously and sarcastically.
>>38797 ha ha, you wish Xi you hit the wrong continent, good luck ever having europe do business with you again. Good luck with the 240 hour tourist visa to buy knockoffs
>>39258 what do Europe have to do with US-Chinese trade relations?
>>39328 nothing...that the point, why is China attacking europe?????????????
>>35854 >also, the US expenses in other countries pretty much made things way worse You mean the anatagonism of other countries before the tariffs went into place, or do you mean something else? I do appreciate Trump's policies directly and indirectly pushing multi-polarism, but I also care about countering China who is a worse actor than even the US. I've argued for a decade that a world dominated by China (and India) represents one of the greatest threats to mankind and to the Global South because unlike the US, which has always received some pushback, China until the second half of Trump's first-term received no pushback. This is also why it frustrates me that Trump just screwed up in his China offensive.
>>39477 >I've argued for a decade that a world dominated by China (and India) represents one of the greatest threats to mankind totally this I dont think people realize how monopolies work. the way that one company like Microsoft kills the competition is to provide very cheap products that no one can compete with. Once the competition dies out they control everything. Very simple, but no one for some reason see that China is doing this
>>39369 My inner schizo voice tell me it's to increase the economic desperation of Euros and win the hearts and minds of the already desperate common man dealing with an already high cost of living by throwing the marketing/brand middleman under the bus and emerge as their luxury product replacment. Though, I think it's just to make money given the tariffs in a petty way. The long term effects will reveal themselves with enough time.
Retard here, what's the worst case scenario if trump lost against Xi in the current trade war. ""I'm very nervous""
>BREAKING: China is considering suspending its 125% tariff on some US imports including medical equipment, ethane and plane leasing, per Bloomberg https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=bGn34HKnnTg
>>38751 I mean that was on one of points I was making. It being that recycling has generally been a more obtuse, expensive, irregular, and an environmentally hazardous process compared to just extracting more. On top of that, we generally just ship this dirty work to other countries anyway like others were saying. That's why I think stuff like this generally just makes petty headlines then is forgotten about and never brought up again. Might be something in some years, but I'd rather wait to see some reults first.
>>39639 everything you say is correct, the Chinese have not put thought into any kind of strategy, they are just going to lash out at anyone to keep their factories open >>39643 The US cant lose. The worst case senario is that the entire world sides with China and the US can no longer do trade with the whole world. Even in that senario the US will survive and thrive under its own economy. International trade is a new thing. If you look at history, nations could not do large scale trade with other countries and the economies existed only within their borders.
>>23564 If a job is worth less them minimum wage then it ceases to exist. If a company has to pay 4x just to bring domestic production to the states for a worst batch of workers there are going to be serious cuts up the supply chain, its not a simple issue of just pay the worker more
>>39665 >US will survive and thrive under its own economy. that literally can't happen you have a trade deficit because your production isn't matching your demand. The rest of the world also holds a ton of US debt and you're a relatively small nation landmass wise without the resources to match given how many people are in the states US plebs way overestimate their economy, the only thing keeping US in power is them hijacking global economics by pinning it to their dollar. China would love for US to be shut off from global economics
>>39689 The US bond market works on supply and demand, meaning US bonds are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. So if the world shuts out the US from trade, the price of US bonds will go to zero. Guess what, its really easy to pay off bonds that are worthless.
>>39692 >So if the world shuts out the US from trade, the price of US bonds will go to zero. No they're not, retard. The interest rate is what changes based on demand. If you owe someone $100 and lose your job, you still owe them $100. What you're describing is defaulting on debt.
>>39790 And defaulting is what the usa will eventually do
>>39790 No one wants to buy US-anything bonds if other countries have good reason to believe that we're insolvent and will default. Which is going to happen if Trump keeps playing stupid games.
>>40110 the US bond market has already been decreasing for the last decade before this trade war happened
>>40264 the last resource of USA is to buy bonds with FED money printing machine, so more printing money until oblivion remastered, always inflation is the kiss of the dead of the nations, you could still survive as nation but not with the same political power, bonds near zero or even negative are reserves, bonds above 10%/year are nearly trash, bond without value is a complete default and halt in all the economic machine, the bonds of USA still one of the best, but also the expending machine increase tarnishing the GDP, Trump is no fixing anything, only want the USA citizens pay more "general" taxes and blame other countries by the mistakes of USA system builded to daycare the billionaires.
>>38608 also i found some videos about rare earth mining, looks like rare earth like old volcanic activities with heavy metals, the Mongolia desert and Siberia are known to be the "big" volcanic explosion during the Permian and the first dinosaurs (siberian traps), also rare earths come with companion of radioactive metals, that why the "California mine" output of rare earth is ridiculous more o less will be the Ukraine mine (not important volcanic activity in the past), China did a cut back of rare earth in the 2010 to punish USA, since then USA was looking for a big mine without luck, also you need a big space without population to put the toxic waste lake of the refining process, is the second time China use rare earths to grab the balls of USA kek
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>>40264 Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same. Especially when pretty quickly here the only people left buying bonds will be the Fed. After Powell leaves in 2027 Trump will get his syncophants in place they're going to drop the interest rates and drop us right into a Lost Decade(s) scenario.
>>40929 >Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same Why? The sooner everything crashes, the sooner we're able to fix it. Even better if the crash can be "controlled" in such a manner that the effects of it are either lessened or made irrelevant.
>>39692 bonds don't fluctuate on value the interest rate does. bond with a face value of 50k to be paid in 10 years? you still gotta pay it back even if people are dumping it >>40371 see how quickly the rest of the world dumps their US bonds and the US becomes the next Zimbabwe if that happens. Its not like the US can suddenly double their money supply overnight and spend it it'll take time and is gradual. Ya i agree trump's methods are utterly stupid, like the DOGE thing i can get behind, the tariffs is stupid because it brings the least profitable part of the manufacturing process at the expense of short and likely longterm gdp. Like hypothetically if you were an rich empire wouldn't you want to pay slaves abroad to produce everything buy it for a fraction of the price slap a logo on it and sell it for 100x.
>>40935 thats the equivalent of "fixing" your home by using a sledge hammer and smashing the support pillars because there's a crack in the wall. US isn't immune to civil war or a rampant loss of economic power, sure they have the strongest economy for now but thats not a set thing.
>>40955 to your point, i would add that international trade wasn't really broken. ive lived all over the world and americans have the lowest prices and highest salaries and the highest standard of living out of anywhere. germany, uk, japan, australia, canada. the united states lacks free healthcare and education, needs higher minimum wage, but that's pretty much it. the "affordable housing" problem is not unique to the united states. it wasn't broken, but now it is.
the united states didn't have a trade deficit problem either. it imports physical items and exports THE ENTIRE INTERNET, BASICALLY. google searches, facebook, iphone app store purchases. literally the biggest companies with the highest revenues in the world. the idea that americans were geting screwed over by not being able to find jobs screwing together microwaves is some absolute grandpa logic. it wasn't broken.
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>>40950 >see how quickly the rest of the world dumps their US bonds and the US becomes the next Zimbabwe if that happens How is that going to work out when the U.S. supplies all the guns, and the tech, and the money? >>40955 >thats the equivalent of "fixing" your home by using a sledge hammer and smashing the support pillars because there's a crack in the wall Okay, what's your solution then? How do we bring manufacturing back home? How do we stop domestic companies from making majority of their products in other countries? >>40958 >i would add that international trade wasn't really broken Yes, it is. >americans have the lowest prices and highest salaries and the highest standard of living out of anywhere <Yes, it's nice how everything is so "affordable" when I cannot get a fucking job and have to mooch off my parents and the government in order to bring in an income.
>>40971 >I cannot get a fucking job >have to mooch off my parents >and the government sounds to me like you are about to be doubly fucked by the trade policy destroying almost all domestic manufacturing and every other type of business, the cuts to federal spending, the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd good luck, fatass
>>40971 >my life sucks and its definitely because of international trade because populist conservatives who are trying to win my vote with viral rhetoric keep saying it
>>41002 >destroying almost all domestic manufacturing What "domestic manufacturing"? >the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd They've BEEN doing that since 1971 >>41004 Nice double post
>>41014 >What "domestic manufacturing"? https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=1W_mSOS1Qts >>the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd >They've BEEN doing that since 1971 you really need to figure out what the hell you're talking about because currently you don't >Nice double post nice double chairs
>>41019 i don't know what useless garbage it just tried to do to that youtube link but the title of the video is >The Death of Affordable Computing | Tariffs Impact & Investigation
>>41021 >The Death of Affordable Computing So that means game companies will have to supporting Windows 7 and the PS3 again as no one is going to buy an overpriced POS spyware device just to run their bloated software that craters system performance for it's AI-generated fake-frame rates and ray-tracing that STILL doesn't work properly. I don't see this being a bad thing. Also... >Computing Here's seven year old list (As in, doesn't account for "recent" events like Intel having abandoned manufacturing in the U.S. several years ago) of EVERYTHING computer related made in the U.S. : archive.is/Ks7NH So again, I ask, WHAT domestic manufacturing? Nothing is made in the U.S. We import everything. The only thing we "export" is just ideas.
>>40971 >I can ad Joe Smith was fired because some IA specialize in services skynet was bough by the HQ ultra patriotic corporation, those bonuses of CEO's laying off people are hot, investor are the "numba" one priority, well at least stock went up, some New Yorker HFT will be happy, those billions expended by the government at work
>>37444 > >>>37158 https://archive.today/https://economictimes.indiatimes(Please use archive.today)/news/defence/chinas-new-weapon-shocks-the-world-is-this-hydrogen-bomb-a-game-changer-for-modern-warfare/articleshow/120475868.cms?from=mdr Its mangnesium hydrate, its far too difficult to manufacture to be wasted on making bombs. Its likely going to be used as fuel in solid fuel cells for high end weight sensitive applications like drones and rockets. And when used in a bomb, its not a nuclear detonation, it is used as very expensive fuel in a thermobaric explosion.
>>23437 >>23464 China's fleet is 40% Boeing though, this could get ugly
>>40962 Of course it wasn't broken. But the whole point of Trump's platform is bold-facedly lying about it so that you genuinely think and are outraged like it is your problem. Just like he lied about being a Dictator only on day 1 lol. Now that any American's house can be unlawfully "Trumpvestigated" by ICE contrary to the 4th maybe everyone should start looking into exercising their 2nd.
>>40935 I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age.
>>41250 worst, with a very capable manufacturing rival like China is a dangerous gamble, even before money concept phoenicians were trading, the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff, phoenicians and XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs, phoenicians had to deal like Persian empire, and later on Roman Empire, China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars, China is moving towards a "updated" army and manufacturing power, Trumptards instead cold down the economy (Fed Funds high Interest Rates) buy less chinese goyslop, want lower the interest rate, expend like crazy and blame any one instead taking the accountability of their own public and private institutions fails, we saw it in 2000's, 2008 who the printing machine "solve" the problem and the rest of the world eat the toxic USD money clipping, and where we go again, shit... this time with a even bigger China, new parallel currencies (crypto, an money swaps avoiding USD as a exchange currencie)
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>>41250 >I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? >Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? >>41261 >a very capable manufacturing rival like China West Taiwan produces more shit than they're capable of selling, their entire economy is on the brink of collapse, their own citizens are LITERALLY lying flat with the expressed desire of becoming a vegetable, and their entire history is one incident after another of them ALWAYS losing every single war they have ever participated in. >the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. >XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs Wasn't it it the Qianlong Emperor that said, and I quote: <Our Celestial Empire possesses all things in prolific abundance and lacks no product within its borders. There is therefore no need to import the manufactures of outside barbarians in exchange for our own produce. So how did they lose, not one but, TWO WARS against the fucking Bongs? >China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars Which, by the way, was started by the Chinese raiding ships and seizing cargo on the excuse that it was to "prevent" the trade of opium (But really to steal stuff without having to pay for it), but all the while ignoring that Chinese elites had been smoking that shit for centuries (Even during their "ban"), and that the actual peace treaties and agreements of the now so-called "Opium Wars" only ever mentioned opium ONCE' in demanding a reparation of "six million dollars". And all this was topped by another bout of Chinese stupidity half a century later with the Boxer Rebellion. Where the Chinese decided that the "best" way to expel all the foreigners was to kill their own people and destroy thousands of years of Chinese history.
>>41272 >Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. Nope, those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs, like 1-2 months worth of a factorie job, cooler master had by example 30 millions USD of stuff frozen in a buffer land, instead from directly send 100%-80% to USA and later send it to the rest of the world, cooler master will be forced to open local HUB's distribution sites, but this will take like 5-6 months, even less American jobs by the process finished, the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded as the Autartic Spain, the only way to solve the monetary impairs i to return gold standard, but muttmerica stole it in the 70's at the first place, so the lack of confidence still there, also America in the 50's lacks of competition post WW2 by obvious reasons (factories blew up in Japan, Europe, China, and cold war cut in half Europe as a USSR slave states), but again if you want make America great again, paired with a value standard, tie up the banking sector, and work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, or by soft power blow up the entire world in a WW3 scenario with a confidence of USA will win.
>>41272 If you have to resort to this level of reality denial to make orange daddy seem competent it might be time to rethink your life.
>>41272 >Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? Not an argument. It will be a zero-sum game (really unnecessary use of words here anon) when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds.
>>41298 >those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs Like those six jumbo jets filled with iPhones? >the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. >>41355 >Not an argument. Yes, it is. You're presenting two options and saying those are the "only possible outcomes" without any proof or consideration of any alternative scenarios that are just as realistically possible or likely. >when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. In fact, if this entire tariff situation is "just enough" to destroy the "entire system", how "stable" was it in actuality if all it took was a fucking reality TV show host saying "We're going to tax you 10% for using our markets"?
>>41401 >Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. Explain to me, how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA, even at neutral countries in other continental soil, not soft power level speak off....
>>41437 >how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA Outside of our country and claimed territories, anywhere from none to probably one per a country we directly consider to be an "ally". But then again, the American military doesn't have all those foreign bases to "secure" our country or freedoms. Those bases exist because countries are paying us to do it (If we're not practically doing it for free). Because ever dollar they don't have to spend on creating their own military is a dollar they can spend on whateve bullshit social services program they want. And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit.
>>41401 >They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. We're going in circles anon. >Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same. Especially when pretty quickly here the only people left buying bonds will be the Fed. After Powell leaves in 2027 Trump will get his syncophants in place they're going to drop the interest rates and drop us right into a Lost Decade(s) scenario. It's foolishness to admit that there's a problem and to do nothing BUT make it worse.
>>41538 >And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit. Either you're too young to remember or you're flat out lying. Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. It went on for nearly a decade too until people started learning about what being the "World Police" looked like in Iraq.
>>41589 >Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. No, that's how Bush described in that particular instance. And he was wrong. Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. And even further from that, the people that WANT America to be the "World Police" are the same groups (Like the WEF and Open Societies) trying to bring about a global Communist dictatorship, with the government of said world order being the United Nations. So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit.
>>41606 It was absolute not "just" the President of the United States Bush calling The United States the World Police. Come on now. >Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. So if this all isn't true anymore how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? >So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit. What are you talking about?
>>41610 >how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? There's not going to be a war. And if there is, it's none of our business. At the very most, it's going to be another North Korea situation, where an illegitmate regime is trying to flex it's power over the region, but that power only comes from their alliance with West Taiwan. And West Taiwan is more worried about trying to take Taiwan Proper than wanting to devote any resources to the Middle East, especially when their own economy is on life support and Russia is busy having funtimes in Ukraine. Then there's also the aspect that Iran has every other country to deal in that region because, surprise surprise, the sandniggers are tired of being in a constant state of warfare and actually want a society that develops for once, which is why you see countries denouncing the Islam (By sayinig that they're "returning" to the "true teachings" of the Quran) and making alliances with Israel. The only "power" card Iran has is the Palestinians, which is a losing play when even the fucking Kikes are tired of this shit and are in active revolt against Bibi (Who allowed the October attack to happen in the first palce despite every other country warning him) because they want nothing to do with his military regime and the prospect of a "Greater Israel". If anything, we're entering another Great War situation where you have elites trying to force a war across the global and a populace who wants nothing to do with it. And they're trying to prevent another Christmas Truce breakdown of their narrative by running 24/7 propaganda about how much we should "hate" these other countries and the people in them, but please ignore the elites who HAVE been in power, are STILL in power, actually created these situations in the first fucking place, and are now pushing for how the "only" two options is total global dictatorship or outright societal collapse like those are the "only" two directions things can go.
>>41613 You have no idea what you're talking and are just rambling anon. Are you just lying all the time or have you somehow convinced yourself that this is all genuinely true? >There's not going to be a war. >And if there is, it's none of our business. There is most likely going to be a war anon. Trump is even more completely whipped by Israel than Biden war. I would bet mine and yours life that plans to devastate Iran and it's nuclear enrichment program are being made right now. Just to be clear, the wars in Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen all already involve the US either as a the direct arm's dealer or it's literally us bombing the shit out of Israel's enemies.
>>41616 >There is most likely going to be a war anon. Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry, like Saudi Arabia: archive.ph/LBWov archive.ph/8VbKE And war would be the LAST thing they should desire since there's also the UAE, and Bahrain: archive.ph/vAIT0 And Jordan also getting tired of their shit: archive.ph/a7d6z
>>41629 >Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry You're actually retarded anon. Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat than the combined Israel + United States military? NO it obviously fucking isn't.
>>41631 >Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat ARE they a threat? Doesn't matter if there's a "bigger" threat somewhere else, is Saudi Arabia a threat to Iran? Also you seem pretty insistance to treat this entire situation like there's ONLY three countries in play (Iran, Israel, and the U.S.), all the while ignoring that there other nations in the region who have to deal with this shit, or even the nations backing Iran's endavors which is why they're capable of acting so high-and-mighty in the first place (In addition to ignoring the state those countries supporting it are in).
>>41636 >Whatabout this, whatabout that. you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid. this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police when everyone in the world knows that isn't true. pipe down.
>>41637 >you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid And you don't have an argument, so you're resorting to ad hominems because you cannot or refuse to answer the questions presented. >this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police Because we don't. Why would ANY country want to be saddled with constantly having to solving political disputes between nations, and having to send our own population to the fatherest regions of the planet in order to solve conflicts that having nothing to do with us?
>>39477 I don't trust the chinks but trusting the US hasn't made anyone a favor, so I wouldn't consider China the biggest threat purely because I know the world would remain very reluctant towards the chinese/indians even if the US suddenly disappeared. That claim is just the US Cold War era Feds psyop propaganda as shown by proxy/interventionist wars. Leaving the US, its government, agencies and the ever-trusting voter as the biggest threat. The US isn't protecting the West from some big scary enemy out there either but have done the contrary for nearly a century. Given the state of the establishment, I cannot see a single reason on why anyone could trust the US unless they are members of the Elite or an agency, I'd rather have the chinks or anybody else get rid of it because I know people are never gonna trust the chinese the same way they fell for the US psyops. >antagonism before the tariffs Before. Its like signtap.jpg, Trump backing down on many of his decisions while blaming Biden pretty much proves that the US backing down on certain things is not done out of good intent as its pictured by the Republicans but because they are desperate in keeping their position, as soon as they reassure said position, they'll just sabotage their own people, every ally enforcing more garbage. Trump just happens to be their puppet actor and might even have colluded with the Democrats at some point. State police control/Excessive regulation becoming a major issue within the US and the western world is also another bad sign on the direction elites are taking, its pretty much just like the Cold War, with even less freedom than ever. To trust the US is a bet with little to no rewards and too many risks. I know the changes in world geopolitics would obviously affect everyone, heck, it will probably send many western countries into hyperinflation or complete market crash while the faggot politicians in need of a rope run away, but historically speaking, the current status quo is only gonna make things way worse
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Donald Trump is reportedly making a decision to soften the blow of automotive tariffs by making automakers not charged for other duties like steel and aluminum tariffs, per the WSJ
>>42004 No surprise that Trump would handpick the Auto industry to be a winner business. Sucks to suck for everyone else who imports Steel and Aluminum lol
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I understand the reasoning behind this strategically speaking but could they not have come up with less retarded justification?
>>39680 Except that's virtually never the case in manufacturing. Large operations can and have paid people $30/hour to push a fucking button all day, because it's part of the the process that makes the high-value product. This has been seen in the auto industry for decades. This is the most jewish fucking argument I've heard in decades.
>>42258 i think they need to disclose the amount that will be owed by the customer upon receipt in order to reduce the number of customers who will refuse the package. correct me if this is wrong
>>42313 It's for Amazon Haul which is a Temu competitor. So it makes perfect sense for Amazon to show you the cost of tariffs before you buy, seeing as they're what 145% now on China? Trump Admin must be genuinely afraid of the bad PR though given the incredibly hostile reaction to it.
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US President Donald Trump is considering the possibility of purchasing new presidential jets from an alternative supplier, while the main contractor, Boeing, is postponing the delivery of the airliners, the Wall Street Journal reported. "Disappointed with delays in Boeing's work on the delivery of new Air Force One aircraft, Trump has instructed a smaller defense contractor to prepare a temporary presidential aircraft by the end of the year," the newspaper writes, citing sources. The newspaper also notes that Boeing will continue to develop two new aircraft that will replace the current, outdated and heavily modified Boeing 747 jets (known as Air Force One if the president is on board). However, given the lag behind schedule, sources suggest that President Trump probably won't be able to use these planes until the end of his term. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has commissioned L3Harris to overhaul the Boeing 747, which previously belonged to the government of Qatar. According to reports from some sources, the Melbourne, Florida-based company will install special systems on these airliners to ensure the safety of the president. In his first term, Trump ordered two new Boeing presidential jets to replace the outdated ones. The initial value of the contract was $3.9 billion, and the delivery date was the end of last year. However, due to problems with suppliers, engineering and production difficulties, the project was significantly behind schedule and exceeded the budget by billions.
Boeing is deep in the competency crisis. But, it’s not a problem just with Boeing; all of the tech and really all industries are effected, it’s just that it’s most obvious with big tech companies because of the size and visibility of their operations. L3Harris will fail just as much. The competency crisis expresses itself mainly as constant failed deadlines and exploding costs while simultaneously putting out products that fall short of expectations. The LAST thing a company will blame for failure is themselves for having low quality engineering and production teams. It will ALWAYS be blamed on unspecific “supply chain” or “market” problems. COVID is still a popular excuse because they differ it’s a code word the public still accepts.It will always be someone else’s fault, but like a grifter who wants to engage clicks with pedophilia claims but who will NEVER name the pedophiles, companies will blame the “supply chain” while never naming which suppliers fucked them. But it’s also not a TOTAL lie because suppliers are under the same competency crisis as everyone else is so supplier failure is also a part of the reason. WHY there’s a competency crisis I don’t claim to know. Dropping IQs? Genetic damage / environmental toxins etc? The supremacy of leftist ideology in society? I don’t know. But virtually every failure / downfall of entertainment across the board is also linked to the competency crisis. It’s here to stay apparently.
boeing needs more nigger mechanics and jeet coders it's the only way to compete with china
Temu suspends direct US shipping from China Over 90% of all packages coming into US qualified for this exemption After Trump announced plans to end the “de minimis” loophole, which let goods under $800 enter the US without tariffs, Temu said last month it would adjust its prices. The company started implementing import fees for US customers purchasing Chinese items last week, occasionally resulting in price hikes exceedingly double the original cost. This regulation has significantly impacted international retailers, especially Chinese online platforms like Shein and Temu, who are now subject to substantial duties. According to a Temu spokesperson, "All sales in the US are now handled by locally based sellers, with orders fulfilled from within the country." "Temu has been actively recruiting US sellers to join the platform. The move is designed to help local merchants reach more customers and grow their businesses. This shift is part of Temu's ongoing adjustments to improve service levels," he added. Over 90% of all packages coming into the US qualified for this exemption, which is said to be a key factor behind the establishment of Chinese e-commerce giants like Temu and Shein.
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>>43138 What's some good chinkshit to buy from temu?
>>43138 TEMU and other chinkshit merchants while not delivering directly from china any more they will still use american based stores to sell in the US. All trump had to do, if what he really wanted was money, was to repeal 'de minimis' and slap a $1 per item imported from china, at about 4 million packages coming in daily, broken down per-item you have 1.4B a year minimum in a new source of income but it has nothing to do with that, I really wish wypipo werent all such retarded zio-shills
>>42771 why do they need a new fucking plane? how often does that piece of shit have to fly around? why can't this idiot just calm down and jerk himself off to cartoon cum
Top US officials will meet with Chinese delegation in Switzerland in first major talks of trade war https://archive.today/https://apnews.com/article/trump-china-trade-switzerland-bessent-2a3335ed92989dc4b3a74ea550b79b3f
>>43172 >All trump had to do, if what he really wanted was money, was to repeal 'de minimis' and slap a $1 per item imported from china, at about 4 million packages coming in daily, broken down per-item you have 1.4B a year minimum in a new source of income but it has nothing to do with that, 1.4B a year is like 0.1% of the annual interest on US debt
>>42789 You don't know anything about the "Boeing competenncy crisis" then. It's been publically known for a while now that Boeing's problems start at the top and worked it's way down to the engineers.
>Lin Jian: Recently, the U.S. said repeatedly it wants to negotiate with China. This meeting is requested by the U.S. side. https://archive.today/https://www.Webm or use redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=DMUEdoXII7s
>China went to Switzerland at the Swiss government's invitation — originally just for talks with Swiss leaders. The US had been trying to get a meeting for weeks, but China stayed quiet. Then out of nowhere — The US tracked them all the way to Switzerland. Guess they really wanted to talk. Let’s see what they say.
>>43557 Absolutely hilarious that orange cuck's administration has to do this How long has it been since orange nigger tried to throw ZOGmerica's economic weight around and discovered it's a featherweight?
>>43557 Remember when Trump repeatedly said that he was talking to China when he wasn't?
Wanted to post first vid due to it offering some insight into the possibly strategy behind what Trump's doing. Also included the second vid because I don't think people realize just how fucked West Taiwan is thanks to bonds they issued a century ago. Here are the sources for vids attached: redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=G3P4KpLkzC8 redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=XL6hDV6n9zk
>>43698 The tariffs have nothing whatsoever to do with attacking China, that’s simply absurd. There will be no appreciative drop in export from China. Because the tariffs will simply be evaded which is EXACTLY THE REASON for the universal 10%, It’s literally JUST A TAX
>>43556 America today is such a a joke. Warmonger Bush, NighIt's demoralizing to be an American in the 21st century >>42771 Looks like the carbine rifle from GTA 5
>>43703 From Warmongering Bush to Nigger Obama to Orange Dotard to Senial Biden back to Orange Dotard. We could've avoided the last three with electing Ron Paul but NOOOO we just keep voting left and right. God I hate this timeline.
*Senile
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>>42789 >WHY there’s a competency crisis I don’t claim to know. It's the jeets. You can add 4chan to this list too, since their hack was the result of neglect from being run by a jeet.
>Trump suggests 80% tariff on China ahead of talks
>>43699 >The tariffs have nothing whatsoever to do with attacking China, that’s simply absurd. There will be no appreciative drop in export from China. Except there definitely is. Harbor CEOs are already sounding the alarm that fewer boats from China are coming in, with a lot less cargo. Give it a few weeks and my fellow Trumptoids are going to be shitting themselves when their favorite Chinese product prices start shooting up.
>>43720 >Give it a few weeks and my fellow Trumptoids are going to be shitting themselves when their favorite Chinese product prices start shooting up. Two questions: first, care to give examples of what those Chinese-made products are? Second, if these products are that "important", why not just produce them here in the U.S.?
>>43726 >examples of what those Chinese-made products are most computer electronics like modems, routers, laptops, semiconductors, circuit boards, etc >if these products are that "important", why not just produce them here in the U.S.? >here (britbong) either way it's not going to be made in america regardless. haven't you noticed that all the big name companies like Apple aren't moving their production out of China and into America but into Vietnam and India?
>>43726 >if these products are that "important", why not just produce them here in the U.S.? Because the US population is 41% European diaspora, 46% literate and 0% numerate, they would not be employable at some of Asia's better sweatshops
>>43738 >most computer electronics like modems, routers, laptops, semiconductors, circuit boards, etc Taiwan and West Taiwan are two seperate countries. And even then, I don't see the issue. All it will mean in practice is that Microshaft will have to start releasing security updates for Vista again, codemonkeys will actually have to optimize their shit code instead of expecting the customer to through "more power" at it to solve any problem, and game companies will actually be required to release good games again. >either way it's not going to be made in america regardless. Why? >haven't you noticed that all the big name companies like Apple aren't moving their production out of China and into America but into Vietnam and India? Countries also getting slammed by massive tariffs? >>43742 >they would not be employable at some of Asia's better sweatshops Is that actually true or is it just a meme you like to repeat about "lazy mutt Americans"?
>>43746 >Is that actually true Yes, it is
>>43747 Okay, prove it. Where's the evidence "showing" how and why the average American is "less employable" than the pajeets and children that work in Asian sweatshops?
>>43746 Trump jumped from an airplane without a parachute. Things can be made made in America, but this needed to be well underway before starting a trade war, otherwise the transition period will be devastating for the USA economy. It takes years/decades to create a supply chain + factories. Can the USA consumer wait until then?
>>43746 >Taiwan and What are you even talking about? Taiwan is known for producing electronic components. They don't do assembled electronics like modems, routers, laptops, etc. >All it will mean in practice is that Microshaft will have to start releasing security updates for Vista again, codemonkeys will actually have to optimize their shit code instead of expecting the customer to through "more power" at it to solve any problem, and game companies will actually be required to release good games again. kek okay gamer >Countries also getting slammed by massive tariffs? You're behind the times anon. It's 10% tariffs for India and Vietnam now. Which in case you don't know is a LOT less than China's 145%.
>>43754 >but this needed to be well underway before starting a trade war, otherwise the transition period will be devastating for the USA economy Such as how? All that seems to be occuring is richfucks crying about their stock portfolios going into the shitter, to which now "every" Socialist is heel turning and declaring about how must "help" the "poor" and "helpless" rich when their entire shtick is wanting to steal shit from the rich and ruin them. So "who" is actually suffering during all this? >It takes years/decades to create a supply chain + factories. Can the USA consumer wait until then? Aside from a tech field that has needed to crash for more than the past decade, what's actually going to be effect by this "need" to create supply chains? >>43755 >They don't do assembled electronics like modems, routers, laptops, etc. No "one" country assembles products from scratch anymore. The components are produced in one country and assembled in the next. >It's 10% tariffs for India and Vietnam now. Until July. And even then, companies are losing money right now due to global shipping having almost entirely halted until the traiff negotions are settled (Which could go down or go even higher). So is it really "cheaper"?
>>43751 Here's the evidence showing that mutts are >>43742 >41% European diaspora, 46% literate and 0% numerate
>>43756 >So "who" is actually suffering during all this? US farmers are going to suffer in my opinion, mostly because of how farmers conduct business, they have to get loans from investors/banks to plant things that they hope its going to sell in the future, not every farmer gets to sell future harvests, some have to search distributors a few months or even weeks before the harvest, so they are going to have a large surplus of products that is going to rot away in the field. >They are going to sell for cheap Probably not, because most farmers are not the ones moving the goods, its the distributor, if the distributor thinks its too expansive buy and sell the goods, they are not going to buy the goods.
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>>43757 >Here's the evidence That's not what I asked for: >>43751 <Where's the evidence "showing" how and why the average American is "less employable" than the pajeets and children that work in Asian sweatshops? Test scores don't mean jack shit. Where the real world data? >>43759 >US farmers are going to suffer in my opinion, mostly because of how farmers conduct business, they have to get loans from investors/banks to plant things that they hope its going to sell in the future, not every farmer gets to sell future harvests, some have to search distributors a few months or even weeks before the harvest, so they are going to have a large surplus of products that is going to rot away in the field. Why not just sell their harvest to their local communities? I thought people hated the fact that farmers "now" have to compete against produce grown across an entire ocean, so the trade tariffs should be a blessing since people still have to eat. That's not to mention that with needing to offload all that food domestically, that's going to drive down the price of groceries.
>>43756 >Who is actually suffering during all this? Nobody as of yet. Maybe in a few months we'll feel the pains of the tariff war. It's too early to know.
By then a war with Iran might break out or India and Pakistan will nuke each other to hell and we'll get infested with jeets. So we suffer anyways
>>43761 >Why not just sell their harvest to their local communities? One, because that still costs money, you have to find workers, you have to pay for the workers, you have pay for drivers and the fuel, and its not cheap, and you don't know if its going to sell enough to break even, transporting is an additional cost. Two, we are talking about thousands if not millions of farmers with tons and tons of surplus, the local market will not be able to absorb that amount of goods, we are also talking about goods that expire in a few weeks, its going to tank the price so fucking hard you might as well set the farm on fire, at least the ashes will be good for future seasons, sure, you will be able to get your tomatoes for the price of a peanut but the farmers still have to pay the loans and fix their machines. The price of food is going to skyrocket in US and for the rest of the world next year if these tariffs don't disappear by July or August.
>>43766 >you have to find workers What about hiring locally? >you have to pay for the workers So you take the money, that would have gone towards your global distributor, and use it to pay people to distribute locally. >we are talking about thousands if not millions of farmers with tons and tons of surplus Sounds like an industry in need of a market correction then. As every other indistry experiences the problem where they produce far more of whatever product or service than there is demand for it, and lose a lassive amount of money or go bankrupt as a result of their hubris. Why should I care about people being stupid with their money and biting off more than they can chew?
>>43761 >Ok, mutts may be 41% white, 46% literate and 0% numerate, but at least they may or may not be employable at the best Asian sweatshops KEEEEK
>>43756 About 90% of Americans have investment in the stock market. Many small business will go down first. Some farmers will need bailouts. Limited selection, and then scarce shelves will be felt in big chain stores like Walmart, Target, Home Depot. Amazon wil be hit. China its also being affected, of course. But the Chinese sees this as an attack from the USA and are rallying behind Xi. The USA is complete divide between Dems/Reps. We will see what happens this weekend. But to me it seems that Trump is more eager to do a deal than China: 1. Trump tried for weeks for Xi to call him with no success. 2. The Chinese never travel to the USA to negotiate, they didn't vow down. Instead, the Trump administration is traveling to a third country to meet with the Chinese. 3. Trump already reduced the tariffs unilaterally ahead of the negotiations, when 2 days ago said he wouldn't budge. My prediction is that the Chinese will continue to drag their feet unless the USA make a big concession. 80% reduction in tariffs won't be enough. Trump will spin the outcome as a win regardless.
>>43771 >About 90% of Americans have investment in the stock market. No, they don't: archive.ph/bVPpr <A recent Motley Fool report took a look at just how many people in the U.S. own stock, and according to a recent Gallup survey, 58% of American adults -- about 150 million people -- do. And: archive.ph/iFJoj <About 93% of U.S. households' stock market wealth is held by the top 10%. >Many small business will go down first. 90% of small business fail all the time. How is this going to be any different? >Some farmers will need bailouts. See my post above: >>43767 >Limited selection, and then scarce shelves will be felt in big chain stores like Walmart, Target, Home Depot All multi-billion dollar store chains that can afford the costs required in order to pay people the money needed in order to keep products on the shelves.
>>43774 >>About 90% of Americans have investment in the stock market. >No, they don't: archive.ph/bVPpr <A recent Motley Fool report took a look at just how many people in the U.S. own stock, and according to a recent Gallup survey, 58% of American adults -- about 150 million people -- do. You are right about this. >90% of small business fail all the time. How is this going to be any different? So they will fail at a higher % and faster now. You think small business shouldn't exist? You are basically saying that since the tariffs won't affect you direct (for now), it doesn't matter. They economy will slow down and everyone will feel it eventually.
>>43774 >90% of small business fail all the time. How is this going to be any different? who needs american small businesses anymore when all they do is get in the way of our corporate overlords profits
>>43781 >So they will fail at a higher % Higher than 90% >and faster now So they fail within a month rather than the full 12 months that 90% of small businesses fail with? >You think small business shouldn't exist? What does that have to do with this conversation? Whether I like and support a small business doesn't negate the fact that 90% of them will be gone within the year, and an additional 5% by the next two. So the fact of the matter is that you're saying nothing is going to change. >They economy will slow down and everyone will feel it eventually. That's assuming the economy was functioning in the first place. I remember economists from three years ago talking about how we were already in a rare circumstance known as "stagflation", and now everyone is complaing how we're enteting a "new phase" of economics known as..."stagflation". It's almost as if people are retroactively treating the years under Brandon as "prosperous times" instead of considering the possibility that things have been shit for years and you don't want to admit it.
>>43766 >its going to tank the price That is always a good thing. Produce only in order to supply necessities. not to become rich.
best case scenario, both party lose, we go world war 3, so I can laugh at the nothing ever happen chuds
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>China’s Vice Premier He Lifeng and the Chinese delegation has walked out midway through the U.S.-China trade talks in Geneva with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and the U.S. delegation without giving any reasons for their swift exit. big if true
>>43848 are you there you retard?
>UPDATE: Bloomberg reports that Chinese and U.S. officials have returned to the Geneva trade talks venue.
>>43848 >>43850 What the fuck is going on?
>>43852 >>43852 It was fake news. They were only on a break.
>>43853 of course The constant misinformation going on is out of control.
>>43855 >Fake News Uh sweetie we call that 10D chess? Get it right :)
>>43857 Wrong its 420D chess
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>Marathon conversations between U.S. and China officials came to an end in Geneva on Saturday, with more talks scheduled for Sunday over the continuing trade war between the counties
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tariffs price increase to small business
>>43847 No archive = fake news.
>>43767 >Sounds like an industry in need of a market correction then See the thing is when growing food has a "market correction" you have, what's known in the business as, a "famine." >>43767 >What about hiring locally? >So you take the money, that would have gone towards your global distributor, and use it to pay people to distribute locally. And where are all the local workers that will pull 10 hour shifts in 80+ degree temperature and work at the same wage as some gooks or spics? Farming is hard work. Additionally you may be unaware that 150 years ago they banned having "at cost" farm labor in the States.
>>43848 >>43850 >>43868 >>43906 None of those have archives. they are all fake news by default.
>>43909 >See the thing is when growing food has a "market correction" you have, what's known in the business as, a "famine." Okay and? You don't seem to understand that I don't care. Especially when famines have happened as a result of people's hubris has for centuries, yet people never fucking learn. >And where are all the local workers that will pull 10 hour shifts in 80+ degree temperature and work at the same wage as some gooks or spics? Oh no, I guess you have to start paying people what they're wortg instead of expecting people to work for a fraction of the price and under the table.
>>43911 >>See the thing is when growing food has a "market correction" you have, what's known in the business as, a "famine." >Okay and? You don't seem to understand that I don't care. Holy BASED! Total mutt starve to death in man-made famines! It was only a matter of time after the US embraced judeo-bolshevism.
>>43911 >You don't seem to understand that I don't care. Especially when famines have happened as a result of people's hubris has for centuries, yet people never fucking learn. Well you better care because a famine caused by a Republican will get "solved" by a Democrat, or by just an out and out Marxist. People don't want to shrink down and live locally, they want to keep what they've got going. Whether a collapse is inevitable or not doesn't figure in to their desires. They'll pledge to and follow who ever will promise to keep it going. Even if that's lies. >>43920 >worker >boss Everyone always goes on about these two but forgets the third side of this triangle. The most important side. >customer If the customer isn't happy then he can fire everyone from the CEO on down/ It goes like this >boss has to pay worker a higher wage >this is passed on tho the customer >customer is unhappy >doesn't buy from them as much >price goes up too high >customer stops buying from them completely >boss makes no money >worker makes no money >worker gets laid off >boss files for bankrupcy For added bonus humor <boss sells business assets to China <boss covers debts and maybe makes profit <customer has long given up being able to find or afford what they want <makes it himself or does without <maybe rarely finds it second hand <worker now sucks dick for room and board
>China-US trade talks lasted 8 hours, tariff negotiations continued on Sunday Reuters quoted people familiar with the matter as saying that in order to resolve the Sino-US trade war that has impacted the global economy, senior US and Chinese officials held the first round of talks in Switzerland on Saturday (May 10), which lasted about eight hours, and planned to continue consultations on Sunday. After the first day of talks, neither side made any statement on the content of the negotiations or whether any progress had been made. The Associated Press said there was no indication whether the two sides had made any progress in the more than eight-hour meeting.
>>43922 >People don't want to shrink down and live locally Actually, they do. However they "legally" cannot because of government regulations in play that effect everything from "how" you can perform husbandry activities to the very way your vehicle is designed. From how your license plate has an "additional" charge for the purposes of keeping national parks open to your receipt for an airline flight now taxing you based on some estimate of how much CO2 you "released" as a result of using said flight. What needs to happen is the removal of all these regulations and government agencies that have sprouted over the past century, and who exist for no reason than to price out the average individual. However the moment they start doing that, you're going to see the press and the politicians having a coronary over that loss of control. They'll do their damned to declare how it's "returning" the country to the days of the "robber-barons", but people don't know that almost everything about said "robber-barons" was a lie made up by their competitors and the press to ridicule and scorn said "robber barons" for having eaten into their profits, and that all the "benefits" those regulations were creditted for were already happening without them to some extent and showing that these laws did not need to exist in the first place. If you think I'm lying or understating the problem, have you ever stopped and looked at WHY shit costs so much at every step of the process? From when it exists on a drawing board to the actual creation of it to how it's distributed to how people are able to buy it?
>>43924 >have you ever stopped and looked at WHY shit costs so much at every step of the process? jews
>>43922 Wrong. People want to settle down and live locally. You, jews, are the ones who want constant mobility. And we will kill you all, so there is no problem for us. Long ago in a distant chan. The whole world IS ALREADY UNITING TO GENOCIDE jews. We will settle down. We will slow down. We will stagnate (which IS a good thing), and we will live a happy and quite long life. Everything you jews hate, we will do with pleasure, while killing you all.
>>26135 >lost 2 of their last wars, against farmers and shepherds >greatest army not sure about that. Its overestimated at best, their tech didn't do much in the current Ukraine-Russian War
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>>43940 The "tech" is arguably what lost the NATO war against Russia in the Ukraine. NATO has like 7 times the population and 50 times the GDP of Russia, yet it produces 4 times fewer weapons than Russia (according to NATO sec gen Mark Rutte)
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Joint Statement Between China and the USA
>BREAKING: The US to cut tariffs on Chinese goods to 30% from 145% for 90 days >BREAKING: China to lower tariffs on US goods to 10% from 125% for 90 days >United Secretary of Treasury Bessent says US nor China want to decouple
>US-China trade deal does not cover "De minimis" exemptions for e-commerce firms, per Bloomberg >CHINA'S RARE EARTH EXPORTS RESTRICTIONS CONTINUE: YUYUANTANTIAN, A WEIBO ACCOUNT WITH STATE TIES
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>>43993 >>43994 >>43995 Could you please provide some fucking links?
"Tariffs are going to bring manufacturing back to America" This fuckin orange disappointment. No annexnng Canada or Greenland, Stopped jeets and paks from wiping each other out, didn't ban tiktok, still no war against the cartels, woke shit still everywhere, still stuck doing never ending nuclear deal meetings with Iran every fucking Saturday despite saying they have a "1 month date to agree to our terms" and still failed to end the Ukraine-Russia war. This is shittier than his first term.
>Trump capitulated Xi won again
BREAKING: Trump TOTAL CAPITULATION On China Trade War imagine being Chinese statesman and you must keep a trillion dollars budget to cope with retarded american shimp outs whole time.. https://archive.today/https://Webm or use redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=rQwjsvlj7qM
>>44006 >>44007 >Trump TOTAL CAPITULATION >>43994 <tariffs on Chinese goods to 30% from 145% for 90 days <tariffs on US goods to 10% from 125% for 90 days >>43995 <trade deal does not cover "De minimis" exemptions for e-commerce firms <RARE EARTH EXPORTS RESTRICTIONS CONTINUE How?
>>43993 >Cucked to Chyna >Only trade deal is with Queer Starmer, who sent hundreds of staffers to the US to campaign for Kamala Orange nigger bros, did we get what we voted for?
>>44007 Trump's and the retarded buffoons that support him have been acting and pretending like he's been playing some 5D chess and is in actual control of the situation for at least a decade, but its just the government's way to cope with the losses and unstable western hegemony under the US police State, this includes both the Left and Right which share the same goals as puppets of the Deep State. The fact that neocon politics and politicians have been trying to co-op nationalist groups and resurrect a halfassed national sense of community all throughout the west, as well as throwing DEIshit out the window after 2 decades of unstopped pozz from both the Left and Right proves how badly they want to go back in time to the Bush era, because they are unable to pull off a Nixonian government without the industry. In the other hand, the current american military complex has been the most overrated garbage we've seen in a while and as new tech and the war in Ukraine has shown, there is clearly a shift in what's needed to effectively bare teeth at their enemies as both America's biggest enemies have gotten too comfortable with causing shitflings around the globe. Another proof is how hard they've desperately tried to sour Russia-China's relationship, there's clearly something they are afraid of and its not looking good for them. If the late assertion is right, then Trump should be the first of the two last mandates in which they decide whether they go all in or pretty much admit not-so-publicly a defeat. There is a chance their next ziocuck mandate will be someone with attitude and young, as their latest army groomer campaigns have been a complete disaster. If everything falls in line with their defeat however, it will be a slow grueling spiral in which the Left/Right and their retarded partisans will blame each other on who did the most damage. The US will push social agendas to a newer limit just as its done so far, in which they'll try to keep order and a state of hyper vigilance over the people and the social unrest that will ensue.
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>>44014 How about you include a fucking archive FIRST, and then we'll talk?
>>43993 No archives = fake news.
>>44007 The tariffs are great. Obey America or go bankrupt. The market must attend to the needs of America only. Not other countries.
>Inflation eased to 4-year low in April as Trump's tariffs took effect, CPI report shows archive.ph/AjTDJ <Inflation eased to a four-year low in April as the nascent impact of President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs were offset by their cost-dampening effects in a slowing economy. <Overall consumer prices increased 2.3% from a year earlier, down from 2.4% rise the previous month, according to the Labor Department’s consumer price index, a measure of average changes in goods and services costs. <That’s the lowest annual increase since February 2021 but still leaves inflation moderately above the Federal Reserve’s 2% goal. <On a monthly basis, costs rose 0.2% after dipping 0.1% in March. <Prices for groceries, including eggs, used cars and airfares all fell sharply, while medical services and auto insurance and repairs continued to drift higher. >Moratorium between China and the US ends trade war but fails to address underlying issues archive.ph/OU9Nr <Trump has suggested that he might soon hold talks with his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping. After a phone call on January 17, three days before the Republican's inauguration, China avoided organizing another exchange between the two leaders. Beijing did not want to give Trump satisfaction and feared an improvised encounter with an uncontrolled message. But now, Xi would benefit from taking a call from the American president to continue easing tensions and fostering friendship. <Fundamentally, the issues to be resolved are considerable, even excluding the geostrategic conflict over Taiwan. The two countries must agree on the level of tariffs; on voluntary Chinese purchases of American products, particularly agricultural ones, to reduce the bilateral trade deficit; on China's subsidies to its industry; on American access to the Chinese market; and on currency manipulation. <In addition to these major topics, security considerations come into play. Americans no longer want to depend on Chinese rare earths, but Beijing also has demands: Chinese companies are currently barred from acquiring American ones. Washington is divided on China's access to strategic technologies, particularly microprocessors. <One camp supports strict restrictions on sensitive products – "small yard, high fence" approach, as Jack Sullivan, Joe Biden's national security adviser, said in October 2022. While another camp, which includes Trump, wants to liberalize microprocessor exports. Added to this is the highly symbolic battle over TikTok, which Trump does not want to end but which must, according to a law passed by Congress, come under American ownership. >Trump’s tariffs: Average American household faces $2,200 price hike, report says archive.ph/cUm3o <According to new research published by the Budget Lab at Yale University, President Donald Trump's tariffs will raise prices by almost 2% in the short run, costing the typical middle-class household more than $2,200 per year. <That estimate is down from the group's mid-April estimate of around $3,400 a year. <The updated estimates come after the Trump administration announced it would lower tariffs on goods imported from China from 145% to 30% for 90 days. The estimates also reflect a new trade deal the United States reached with the United Kingdom, which will most heavily impact the import of British automobiles and parts. >Lula and Xi to ink new deals as Brazil shrugs off Trump’s trade threats archive.ph/E4el7 <Brazil’s Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva insists he doesn’t want to pick between the US and China as his two largest trading partners wage a trade war. But it’s increasingly clear which side he’d choose if forced. <Lula and China’s Xi Jinping are set to ink new trade-related agreements in Beijing on Tuesday, with eyes on opening new markets for Brazilian agricultural goods and expanding Chinese investments into infrastructure projects meant to speed up the delivery of those products across the Pacific. >China Reverses Ban On Boeing Jet Deliveries After Trade Breakthrough With US archive.ph/i8zEs <China lifted a month-long ban on Boeing jet deliveries for all domestic carriers just one day after a breakthrough in U.S.-China trade talks, Bloomberg reports, citing people familiar with the matter. <Chinese officials instructed domestic carriers and government agencies at the start of the week that deliveries of US-made jets were allowed to resume. This decision coincides with a 90-day tariff truce, during which the U.S. slashed tariffs on Chinese imports from 145% to 30%, and China cut import duties on US goods from 125% to 10%. >China offers Latin America and the Caribbean billions in bid to rival US influence archive.ph/JOy4v <President Xi Jinping vowed on Tuesday to boost China's footprint in Latin America and the Caribbean with a new $9 billion credit line and fresh infrastructure investment, although Brazil warned the region not to become overly reliant on foreign funding. <The world's second-largest economy will disburse 66 billion yuan ($9.18 billion) in credit to the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States' (CELAC) members, Xi told delegates from around 30 nations gathered in Beijing for the three-yearly China-CELAC Forum Ministerial Meeting. <"China and the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean are important members of the Global South. Independence is our glorious tradition, development and revitalisation our natural right, and fairness and justice our common pursuit," Xi said. >Japan Govt Fears U.S.-China Talks May Sideline Japan-U.S. Negotiations; Agreement Welcomed, Details to Be Analyzed archive.ph/ItaZs <Japan and the United States are aiming for a June agreement through intensive ministerial talks to be held as early as this month. But there are concerns that Washington will prioritize negotiations with Beijing, sidelining Tokyo. <“We’re analyzing the details [of the U.S.-China deal],” Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba told reporters at the Prime Minister’s Office on Monday. <The easing of the U.S.-China clash has been welcomed within the government, as there had been concerns that the intensifying trade friction between the United States and China would have a negative impact on the global economy. <Since many Japanese companies export to the United States via China, a senior Japanese Foreign Ministry official had said, “It would also be bad for Japanese companies if the United States and China impose high tariffs on each other without grounds,” expressing hope for the end of the retaliatory tariff battle between the two countries. <However, the impact of the U.S.-China agreement on Japan-U.S. negotiations is expected to be limited. According to a senior government official, the United States has stated that the U.S.-China agreement will not set a precedent for other countries. <One government official familiar with the issue pointed out, “China, which has been fighting with the U.S. through raising tariffs on each other, and Japan, which is aiming for a win-win agreement, are in different positions.” <China is seen as the biggest target of the U.S. administration’s tariff measures. The senior government official voiced concern that, if the U.S.-China talks make progress, “The U.S. side may place Japan lower in its order of priorities.” >Trump focuses on economic diplomacy on his Middle East tour
[Expand Post]archive.ph/fznKo <Make deals, not war. This phrase encapsulates the ambition Donald Trump had for his first overseas tour since his inauguration in January. <The United States president, who dreams that he is both a peacemaker and an investment magnet, boarded Air Force One on Monday, May 12, heading for the Middle East. He is due to visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Amid a striking blend of economic promises, security issues and family interests, Trump will speak a language he knows well: that of transactions. Each of these countries has pledged to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in the US – substantial figures, which will need to be verified as real over the years to come. >Chinese exporters to US tread warily as tariff uncertainties linger archive.ph/zVR95 <While Ms Deng celebrated the reprieve with bubbles, she worries about what might happen after 90 days, and has sent her 20-year-old daughter to the US to help scout for a warehouse there to mitigate risks and guard against any further fallout from tariffs. <“My biggest worry is Mr Trump will forget tomorrow what he said today,” said Ms Deng, manager of Lucky Bird Trade, based in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu, the world’s largest wholesale hub for small manufactured items, referring to US President Donald Trump. <Chinese factories are heavily dependent on the US market, but manufacturers in China have buckled up, uncertain on how to navigate an increasingly unpredictable trade war that has threatened to upend global supply chains – and the uncertainty prevails despite the temporary truce. >U.S.-China Trade Deal Spurs Sharp Rises in World Markets; Dow Jones Recovers to Level Just Before Tariffs Announcement archive.ph/Fp8OO <The Dow Jones Industrial Average of the New York Stock Exchange surged 1,160 points Monday, recovering to the level just before U.S. President Donald Trump’s announcement that tariffs would be imposed. <An optimistic view that U.S.-China trade friction would ease clearly pushed stocks up. Washington and Beijing reached a deal in Geneva on Monday for a 90-day pause and for reciprocal tariffs to be reduced by 115 percentage points. >Asia Pacific trade envoys to discuss multilateral cooperation in tariff era archive.ph/yRrGi <Asia-Pacific trade envoys will gather this week in South Korea for discussions on multilateral cooperation, with talks taking place at a time when countries are scrambling to respond to U.S. President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs. <Trade representatives of 21 member economies of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation grouping will attend two days of meetings starting Thursday in South Korea's resort island of Jeju, as part of a second round of senior officials' meetings ahead of an annual APEC leaders summit later this year. <The APEC trade envoys gathering comes amid growing protectionism triggered by Trump's tariffs, which have targeted more than half of the bloc. APEC accounts for about half of global trade and 60% of global GDP. >China says fentanyl issue is responsibility of the US archive.ph/SYJXP <US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said on May 12 that “both the Chinese and United States agreed to work constructively together on fentanyl and there is a positive path forward there as well”. <Asked May 13 about prospects for talks on the issue, Beijing reiterated its position that it is not responsible for the opioid addiction epidemic in the United States. <“Fentanyl is the United States’ issue, it is not China’s issue,” foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian said. <“The US has ignored China’s goodwill and imposed unreasonable fentanyl tariffs on China, seriously disturbing cooperation between China and the US in the area of drug control and seriously harming China’s interests,” he said. <“If the US really wants to cooperate with China, it should stop smearing and shifting blame onto China and engage in dialogue in an equal, respectful and mutually beneficial way,” he said.
>US, Chinese officials secretly met 3 weeks ago in bid to break trade deadlock: Report US Treasury Secretary met with Chinese finance minister at IMF headquarters ahead of trade talks, says Financial Times https://archive.today/https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-chinese-officials-secretly-met-3-weeks-ago-in-bid-to-break-trade-deadlock-report/3565547 So Trump wasn't lying?
>>44140 >The revelation contradicts previous statements from both sides. Bessent had claimed last week that no engagements with China had occurred, while Chinese officials had been denying US President Donald Trump's assertions on holding any negotiations. >Neither the US nor Chinese authorities have confirmed or denied the report. So Bessent lied to Congress?
>Malaysian minister more hopeful after trade talks with US archive.ph/KuTe2 <Malaysia's trade minister is more optimistic of achieving a deal with Washington to reduce tariffs, he said on May 15, after a meeting with his US counterpart. <Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Tengku Zafrul Aziz met US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer on the sidelines of a two-day gathering of trade ministers from 21 member economies of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) group. <It was his second meeting with Mr Greer since the South-east Asian country officially started negotiations with Washington two weeks ago. >France and Europe's economic appeal falters in the face of the US archive.ph/QAB2t <In the face of this widespread decline on the Old Continent, the United States emerged as the big winner. In 2024, foreign investments there surged by 20%. "Companies have pivoted toward this country," said Lhermitte. The large industrial support plan launched by Joe Biden, the Inflation Reduction Act, which offered very generous tax cuts, has worked. Moreover, the drop in investments in Europe is essentially due to a withdrawal by Americans, who launched 46% fewer projects in 2024 than in 2021. <These results, however, pertain to 2024, before Trump's return to the White House and his erratic tariff announcements. Will these warnings change the situation and, paradoxically, make Europe an attractive zone of stability? Nothing is less certain, according to a study conducted by EY in March among 200 multinational CEOs. >Walmart Delivers Solid Earnings, Warns Of Imminent Price Hikes archive.ph/AleJm <Walmart reported better-than-expected first-quarter results for the period ending April 30 but cautioned that the trade war will raise prices on certain items as early as this month. The warning underscores that the mega retailer's low-price model is threatened amid an ongoing value war with other U.S. retailers. >China retains rare earth export controls as bargaining chip amid trade war truce with US archive.ph/aYRVg <Even as China and the US roll back tariffs and other trade salvos amid a 90-day truce, there is one powerful source of leverage that Beijing appears to be retaining: the control of its exports of critical minerals, including rare earths. <China’s Commerce Ministry said on May 12, the same day that details of the US-China agreement were announced, that strengthening export controls of strategic mineral resources was crucial to national security. <A ministry spokesman said that smuggling activity had been detected after Beijing implemented export controls, and that China had launched a campaign to crack down on such moves. >UK Farmers Fear For Bioethanol Market Following US Trade Deal archive.ph/92Ve6 <A recent trade deal between the UK and the US has led to the removal of tariffs on American bioethanol, which British farmers fear will undermine their domestic market. <Concerns exist among beef farmers that the deal will result in increased American beef imports, leading to unfair competition and impacting their livelihoods. <The trade agreement has sparked widespread scepticism among British farmers regarding the government’s commitment to protecting their interests and the future of the agricultural sector. >China grants visa-free entry to some of Latin America's biggest economies archive.ph/UYGKj <China will extend its visa-free policy to nationals of Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Uruguay, putting some of Latin America's largest economies on equal footing with many European and Asian countries as it sought stronger ties with the region. <The visa-free arrangement will be effective from June 1 for a year, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian said on Thursday during a regular press conference. >N. Korean workers leaving China’s Liaoning province as factories close archive.ph/GvUoe <North Korean workers are returning home from China’s Liaoning province in significant numbers as Chinese factories permanently close their doors. <According to a source in China recently, Chinese factories have been relocating or shutting down operations due to the ongoing repatriation of North Korean workers from Liaoning province s(Hello, I just arrived from Leddit, please bully me)ate 2024. >Consumption Tax Exemption to Be Nixed for Low-Cost Imported Items; Measure Eyed with Chinese E-Commerce Sites in Mind archive.ph/ORctM <The Finance Ministry is considering imposing the consumption tax on low-cost imported goods priced at ¥10,000 or less that are currently exempted under the de minimis rule, according to sources. <The ministry is set to revise the rule, which also exempts such goods from tariffs. <Behind the move is the situation in which Chinese e-commerce sites are boosting their sales of low-cost items under the rule. The ministry aims to level the playing field for competition between domestic and foreign businesses. <Other countries are also making changes to their de minimis rules. The administration of U.S. President Donald Trump suspended the de minimis rule for items imported from China. >Trump says India offered to remove all tariffs on US goods archive.ph/T4vxf <US President Donald Trump said India has made an offer to drop tariffs on US goods, as the Asian nation negotiates a deal to avert higher import taxes. <Speaking on May 15 at an event with business leaders in Qatar, Mr Trump said the Indian government has “offered us a deal where basically they are willing to literally charge us no tariff.”
[Expand Post] >China first-quarter emissions fell despite rising power demand archive.ph/Dwo9M <Surging renewable energy meant China’s carbon emissions fell in the first quarter of 2025 despite rapidly rising power demands, a key milestone in the country’s energy transition, analysis from a think tank showed on May 15. <China’s trade war with the US remains a wild card, however, especially if Beijing acts to stimulate polluting industrial sectors in response, the report notes. <China, the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2) that drive climate change, plans to peak carbon emissions by 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060. >Thai consumer confidence hits 7-month low in April due to US tariffs archive.ph/WqM9T <Thai consumer confidence dropped for a third straight month in April, hitting its lowest level in seven months due to concerns over US tariffs and a slow domestic economic recovery, a survey showed on Thursday. <The consumer index of the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce fell to 55.4 in April from 56.7 in the previous month, the university said in a statement. <"Confidence has steadily declined... due mainly to the trade war", university president Thanavath Phonvichai told a press conference. <"Purchasing power remains stagnant, suggesting confidence is still in a downward trend," he said, adding consumers were hesitant to make purchases, especially on durable goods, homes, vehicles, and travel. <Thailand will face a 36% US tariff if a reduction can't be negotiated before a moratorium expires in July. The United States has set a 10% tariff for most nations while the moratorium is in place. >Trump to close deal-making Gulf tour in UAE archive.ph/eqZWW <United States President Donald Trump on Thursday closes a Middle East tour in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as he focuses squarely on seeking deals after billions of dollars of pledges from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. <The first major trip of his second term had been scheduled to end Thursday but Trump, always ready with surprises, did not rule out continuing on to Turkey if Russian President Vladimir Putin shows up for talks with Ukraine. <Trump will fly to the Emirati capital Abu Dhabi after a stop in Qatar, where the president hailed what he said was a record US$200 billion deal for Boeing aircraft. >Japan to seek 3rd round of trade talks next week: Sources archive.ph/13xCf <Japan’s top trade negotiator, Mr Ryosei Akazawa, could travel to Washington as soon as next week for a third round of trade talks with the US, two sources with knowledge of the plans told Reuters on May 15. <The date of his visit was fluid and would depend on how much progress the two countries can make in narrowing differences in staff-level negotiations, one of the sources said on condition of anonymity as he was not authorised to speak publicly. <Japan is considering a package of proposals to gain US concessions that may include increased imports of US corn and soya beans, technical cooperation in shipbuilding, and revision to inspection standards for imported automobiles, the source said. <There is uncertainty on whether the two sides can iron out differences over Japan’s priority, which is to win exemptions from US tariffs on automobile and auto parts – the mainstay of its export-heavy economy. >Apec warns of stalling trade due to tariffs as China, US officials meet archive.ph/vf3VF <The Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) grouping warned on May 15 that exports from a region that accounts for around half of world trade will slow sharply in 2025, and barely grow at all, in the wake of US tariff announcements. <The 21-member bloc convened an annual session of trade representatives ahead of a leaders’ summit in 2025, with top US and Chinese trade envoys meeting on the sidelines following high-stakes talks earlier in May in Geneva that sought to de-escalate a bitter trade war. <Apec projected that exports in the region would rise by only 0.4 per cent in 2025, compared with 5.7 per cent growth in 2024, in an analysis report released at its 2025 meeting of ministers responsible for trade on South Korea’s resort island of Jeju. <The bloc also cut its regional economic growth forecast for 2025 to 2.6 per cent from 3.3 per cent previously. <“Trade growth is set to decline sharply across Apec due to lower external demand, particularly in manufacturing and consumer goods, while rising uncertainty over goods-related measures weighs on services trade,” said Apec in a statement.
>Trump threatens Apple with a 25% tariff if it doesn’t build iPhones in America archive.ph/W4Pih <“I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhone’s that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else,” Trump posted Friday morning on Truth Social. “If that is not the case, a Tariff of at least 25% must be paid by Apple to the U.S.” >Trump suggests 50% tariff on EU goods starting in June archive.ph/bVjjY <US President Donald Trump has recommended Friday a 50% tariff on the European Union after complaining that negotiations were not going well and Brussels was “difficult to deal with”. <Trump took to social media to share his thoughts, suggesting the elevated duty to start on 1 June, in less than a month. >Trump tells Walmart to ‘eat the tariffs’ after retailer warned it will raise prices archive.ph/S9w2T <“Walmart should STOP trying to blame Tariffs as the reason for raising prices throughout the chain,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Between Walmart and China they should, as is said, “EAT THE TARIFFS,” and not charge valued customers ANYTHING. “I’ll be watching, and so will your customers!!!”
>>44167 >China grants visa-free entry to some of Latin America's biggest economies >N. Korean workers leaving China’s Liaoning province as factories close Slant-eyes dumb slaves out, shitskin dumb slaves in. >>44413 >Trump tells Walmart to ‘eat the tariffs’ after retailer warned it will raise prices Good. Take down those businesses that pander to niggers.
>Purely business or sinister security risk? Chinese ‘land grabs’ spook US allies Japan, South Korea archive.ph/31WfX <Chinese buyers are snapping up land from American farms to Japanese islands to prime Seoul real estate, raising questions over whether the trend portends a security risk. <These “land grabs”, by individuals and entities from a socialist country that bans private land ownership, are being eyed with suspicion as geopolitical rivalry escalates between the US and China. <Experts said foreign ownership of land deemed “strategically important” or “sensitive” is a potential risk, given that the sites could be used for spying and surveillance, or to seize control of critical resources like food and water. In this context, Chinese activity is being viewed with distrust, as the country is a perceived threat to the US and its allies. >Trump shocks markets by touting US-Steel-Nippon deal archive.ph/9ZbfL <US President Donald Trump has announced a partnership between United States Steel Corp and Nippon Steel Corp of Japan, shocking markets with an agreement the he said would keep the once-iconic American firm in the US but otherwise providing no specifics. <He stopped short of explicitly endorsing Nippon Steel’s earlier proposed $14.1-billion takeover of struggling US Steel, but shares of the company surged as much as 26% in late Friday trading — signalling optimism over the deal’s prospects. <“I am proud to announce that, after much consideration and negotiation, US Steel will REMAIN in America, and keep its Headquarters in the Great City of Pittsburgh,” Trump said on his Truth Social platform. “My Tariff Policies will ensure that Steel will once again be, forever, MADE IN AMERICA.” >China now offers instant tax refund to tourists in bid to boost consumption. Here’s how it works archive.ph/8MgYl <Visitors to China might soon find it easier to claim tax rebates at store checkouts – and that could mean a little extra cash to spend during their trip and fewer queues at the airport. <Experts say this could boost the economy, but the key will be getting more retailers on board with the programme. <China recently revised its tax rebate policy to allow foreign tourists to receive their tax refunds instantly at eligible stores, rather than only at the airport, and lowered the minimum spending required for such claims. <Since April 27, tourists who spend at least 200 yuan (S$36) at the same store on the same day are eligible for the instant tax refund, down from the previous 500 yuan. <The maximum cash refund amount has also been raised from 10,000 yuan to 20,000 yuan. <Refunds can be received instantly through mobile payments such as WeChat and Alipay’s digital wallets, credit cards and in cash. <Previously, tourists had to get paper forms and receipts in order, and could receive the refunds only at the tax refund counter at the airport right before leaving the country. >Akazawa Eyes Tariff Deal with U.S. at Summit Meeting in June; Says American Representatives Are Growing More Aware of Japan’s Economic Contribution archive.ph/JwCuM <The Japanese and U.S. governments on Friday in Washington held their third round of ministerial-level negotiations on tariffs levied by the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump. <After the talks, Ryosei Akazawa, Japan’s economic revitalization minister, expressed his intention to proceed with more talks with a view to reaching an agreement at the Japan-U.S. summit meeting scheduled to be held in mid-June on the sidelines of the Group of Seven summit in Canada. <“We were able to have a more frank and in-depth exchange than last time,” Akazawa, who heads the Japanese delegation for the negotiations, said to reporters.
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“This is why Trump is angry, as per the WSJ… after the talks in Geneva the U.S. decided to adopt new rules banning the use of Huawei’s new AI chips “anywhere in the world” (which, insanely, includes China), which China said “seriously undermined consensus reached at the high-level bilateral talks in Geneva.” LinkBookmarkIn response China is slow-walking approvals for export licenses of rare earths, and US automakers are warning the White House that “auto plants may have to idle in pandemic-style stoppages” as a result.
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>Trade war accelerates major slowdown in global economy since start of 2020s archive.ph/azQGu <The trade war launched by Donald Trump has been causing a significant slowdown in global economic growth, according to forecasts released by the World Bank on Tuesday, June 10. The international institution projected that the global economy will grow by 2.3% this year, compared to 2.8% in both 2023 and 2024. This figure is 0.4 percentage points lower than what was forecast back in January. <"Only six months ago, a 'soft landing' appeared to be in sight: the global economy was stabilizing after an extraordinary string of calamities both natural and man-made over the past few years," namely the Covid-19 pandemic and the war in Ukraine, said Indermit Gill, the World Bank's chief economist. "That moment has passed. The world economy today is once more running into turbulence. Without a swift course correction, the harm to living standards could be deep." These forecasts are based on the assumption that tariffs will remain at their late-May levels – after Donald Trump's partial backtracking on China and following his agreement with the United Kingdom. >Hopes rise on second day of US-China talks archive.ph/ZWwJ1 <The United States and China began a second day of trade talks on Tuesday, seeking to shore up a shaky tariff truce in a bitter row deepened by export curbs. <The gathering of key officials from the world’s two biggest economies began Monday in London, after an earlier round of talks in Geneva last month. >China Is Deliberately Using Fentanyl To 'Kneecap' The US, FBI Director Says archive.ph/enxC0 <Communist China has a long-term plan to weaken the United States by fueling the fentanyl crisis, according to FBI Director Kash Patel. <Patel sat down for a wide-ranging interview with podcaster Joe Rogan on June 6, saying that President Donald Trump has done an “amazing job” at going after drug trafficking organizations and shoring up the southern border. However, the root of the U.S. fentanyl crisis lies with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), he added, due to China’s exports of fentanyl precursors. <One thing is clear is that China is “not making a ton of money” with its precursor exports, Patel added. <“In my opinion, the CCP [has] used it as a directed approach because we are their adversary,” Patel said. “And their long-term game is, ‘how do I,’ in my opinion, ‘kneecap the United States of America, our largest adversary?’” Patel said. >Beijing woos US influencers with free trip to show ‘real China’ archive.ph/aCkY7 <China is inviting American influencers to join a 10-day, all-expense paid trip through the country in July, as part of Beijing’s efforts to boost people-to-people exchanges and showcase the “real China”. <The initiative, titled “China-Global Youth Influencer Exchange Programme”, seeks to enlist young social media influencers with at least 300,000 followers to collaborate with Chinese content creators, according to recruitment posts by Chinese state-affiliated media outlets, including the China Youth Daily. <While relations between China and the US have deteriorated in recent months over issues including geopolitics, technology and trade, the programme marks an effort to boost cultural exchanges. >Huawei founder says USA overestimates its semiconductor prowess archive.ph/D7AmT <In a friendly interview with Communist Party organ People’s Daily, Ren was asked about the USA’s recent claim that Huawei’s “Ascend” AI accelerator chips are based on stolen American tech, meaning anyone using them anywhere therefore violates Washington’s export controls and risks legal action. <“There are many chip companies in China, and many of them are doing well,” Ren replied, before adding “Huawei is one of them.” <“The United States has exaggerated Huawei's achievements. Huawei is not that great yet. We need to work hard to live up to their evaluation. Our single chip is still one generation behind the United States.” >G7 Expected to Forgo Issuing Leaders’ Declaration; Nations Seek to Avoid Highlighting Rifts with U.S. archive.ph/WTuzn <Group of Seven nations are planning to forgo issuing a leaders’ declaration at their summit in Kananaskis, Canada, according to Japanese government sources. <Their aim is apparently to avoid highlighting the rifts between the United States and other G7 members, including Canada, the chair of the meeting, and Japan. <The G7 summit will be held on June 15-17. It will be the first summit of the group for Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba. <If a declaration is not issued, it would be the first time since 2007. That year, only the chair’s summary was produced. >China’s Xi and Trump Threaten Apple’s India Ambitions archive.ph/MzAMY <Apple, the world’s most valuable company, faces fresh hurdles as it tries to expand production in India. The iPhone giant hopes to move some of its manufacturing out of China. But competing interests from US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping are making that move difficult. <Bloomberg’s piece, “Apple Can’t Leave China, With or Without Tariffs”, highlights how Apple’s long history in China has built a supply chain it can’t easily replace. As Apple begins shifting work to India, pressure from both Washington and Beijing could derail its efforts and impact its business worldwide. >Gold Prices Hit Record Highs But Nobody is Buying, Small Shops Closing archive.ph/w39qc <Thailand’s gold market, long seen as a symbol of wealth and a key part of family traditions, is facing one of its toughest periods. The Gold Traders Association (GTA) says gold prices have reached all-time highs, with 96.5% pure gold jewellery now selling for 50,950 THB per baht-weight in May 2025. <This is a sharp climb from the year’s low of 43,842.72 THB in early February. However, this surge has led to jewellery sales dropping by half, the steepest fall ever recorded. Small gold shops, which make up most of the market, are struggling. Many are now closing, as few customers can afford handmade jewellery at these prices. <Thailand is the third-largest gold market in Asia, after India and China. Here, gold is more than just an investment. It’s a sign of good fortune, often given as gifts during weddings and births.
>China imposes a tax on cognac but limits its scope archive.ph/LwfPb <The cognac industry can kick back and have a drink. On the eve of the deadline set for Saturday, July 5, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce announced on July 4 the imposition of average customs duties of 32.2% on imports of wine-based spirits from the European Union – meaning cognac. But companies that, during the proceedings, negotiated a minimum price agreement − with price increases estimated between 12% and 16% − will be able to avoid the new tariffs. On Friday afternoon, French President Emmanuel Macron welcomed the move as "a positive step toward ending a dispute that threatened our exports," while promising to continue dialogue with Beijing. <This way out is expected to benefit 34 companies, including the three major French groups: the luxury giant LVMH, the market leader with its Hennessy brand; the spirits group Pernod Ricard, owner of Martell; and its rival Rémy Cointreau, known for the Rémy Martin brand. The outcome is likely to be much harsher for about 20 smaller cognac houses, which are being hit hard. >South Korea’s presidential adviser to fly to Washington ahead of tariff deadline archive.ph/OKXbN <South Korea’s presidential security adviser plans to visit Washington from July 6 to 8, his office said on July 5. <Mr Wi Sung-lac, President Lee Jae Myung’s national security adviser, plans to “have in-depth discussions about all the pending issues between South Korea and the United States”, the office said in a statement. <His visit comes as South Korea may seek an extension of the freeze on US tariffs that is set to expire within days. >Trump says tariff letters to 12 countries going out Monday archive.ph/DyDFq <US President Donald Trump said he had signed letters to 12 countries outlining the various tariff levels they would face on goods they export to the United States, with the "take it or leave it" offers to be sent out on Monday. <Trump, speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One as he travelled to New Jersey, declined to name the countries involved, saying that would be made public on Monday. >Reuters: EU to Stockpile Critical Minerals Amid Geopolitical Risks, FT Says archive.ph/ILWIT <The European Union plans to stockpile critical minerals as a precaution against potential supply disruptions due to geopolitical tension, the Financial Times reported on Saturday, citing a draft document by the European Commission. <“The EU faces an increasingly complex and deteriorating risk landscape marked by rising geopolitical tensions, including conflict, the mounting impacts of climate change, environmental degradation, and hybrid and cyber threats,” the newspaper quoted the draft as saying. <The document warns that the higher-risk environment was driven by “increased activity from hacktivists, cybercriminals and state-sponsored groups”, the FT said.
>Thai minister woos US businesses in New York archive.ph/sNwCe <Thailand’s deputy commerce minister has invited large American corporations to invest in targeted industries in Thailand. <Chantawit Tantasith led a delegation from the ministry in a roundtable discussion held recently in New York City with the US-Asean Business Council and the Business Council for International Understanding. <They exchanged insights and fostered collaboration between American businesses and the Thai government, with a focus on boosting investment in targeted industries. <Mr Chantawit said Thailand values its economic partnership with the US. The ministry emphasised Thailand’s readiness to facilitate US companies’ investment in the targeted industries. <These sectors include electric vehicles, agriculture and future food, medical equipment, clean energy, advanced electronics and digital industry, all of which align with the United States’ potential. >Bessent says he will meet Chinese officials, discuss tariff deadline extension archive.ph/XjFxB <US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on July 22 that he will meet his Chinese counterpart next week and discuss what is likely to be an extension of an Aug 12 deadline for higher tariffs. <Mr Bessent told Fox Business Network’s Mornings With Maria programme that trade with China was in “a very good place” and the meetings in Stockholm would take place on July 28 and 29. <“I think we’ve actually moved to a new level with China, where it’s very constructive and... we’re going to be able to get a lot of things done now that trade has kind of settled in at a good level,” Mr Bessent said. >Thailand says nearing deal with US to lower 36% import tariff archive.ph/7n1DZ <Thailand is close to an agreement with the United States to lower a threatened 36% tariff on its exports ahead of the Aug 1 deadline, according to Finance Minister Pichai Chunhavajira, who expects trade talks to conclude within days. <The Southeast Asian nation will submit additional clarifications and final details of its proposal to US trade officials in the coming days, Mr Pichai said on Tuesday. A deal is expected to be announced before the new tariff rate takes effect, as Thailand has already provided the Washington with “almost everything” requested. <“We’ve completed more than 90% of the negotiation. Today or tomorrow should be the very final stretch. There’s just a little bit left,” said Mr Pichai, who leads Thailand’s team of trade negotiators. “Some requests for explanations and asks came from their side, and I need to review those to make sure everything is truly complete.” >Upper House Election: Prime Minister Ishiba Receives Understanding, Criticism from Cabinet; Minister Cautions Impact on U.S. Tariff Talks archive.ph/O1yQo <A Cabinet member on Tuesday said Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba should face up to his mismanagement of the administration,while others showed some understanding of his intention to stay in office, two days after the ruling coalition of the Liberal Democratic Party and Komeito lost its majority in the House of Councillors election. <“Voters delivered a harsh judgment against us. We must take the judgment humbly and seriously,” Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa Hayashi told reporters at the Prime Minister’s Office after the first Cabinet meeting since the poll. He added that he will continue to support Ishiba as prime minister. <“We want to continue to work together to overcome the difficult situation,” said Internal Affairs and Communications Minister Seiichiro Murakami at a press conference Tuesday. Speaking on the ongoing tariff negotiations with the United States, Murakami, a close ally of Ishiba, questioned the prudence of potentially abandoning the negotiations. “Isn’t it right to reach a certain point and then reconsider the [prime minister’s] responsibilities?” he said. <Ishiba is believed to think that he gained a certain amount of support for his decision to continue in office, which he announced Monday, as the LDP has maintained its position as the largest party in the upper house. >China’s ‘Leave India’ Order to Tech Engineers Signals Escalating Supply Chain Warfare archive.ph/0s4uV <China has ordered hundreds of its engineers and technicians working in Indian electronics factories to return home, a step shaking up India’s rapidly growing electronics scene. This unofficial pullout could throw Apple’s production goals off course and slow India’s plan to challenge China’s hold on global manufacturing. <The India Cellular and Electronics Association (ICEA), which counts Apple, Foxconn, Google, and Tata Electronics among its members, wrote to the government calling China’s move “a targeted effort to disrupt India’s supply chains and slow its emergence as a global hub”. <The directive, which reportedly began taking effect two months ago, has led over 300 engineers and technicians to leave Foxconn’s iPhone plants in southern India. <These workers, essential to setting up production lines and passing on technical skills, left suddenly and without an official reason. >Akazawa Downplays Election’s Impact on Tariff Talks;Bessent Denies Interest in Japan’s ‘Internal Workings’ archive.ph/Pq0fh <With the approach of an Aug. 1 deadline after which the U.S. government says it will impose 25% tariffs on imports from Japan, economic revitalization minister Ryosei Akazawa arrived in the U.S. for ministerial talks on tariffs and met with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on Monday in Washington D.C. <According to the Japanese government, the two held a “very candid and in-depth discussion, once again.” <It was Akazawa’s eighth visit to the U.S. for the series of tariff negotiations. Efforts were also being made to hold a meeting with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the chief U.S. negotiator for the talks and Akazawa’s counterpart. <Speaking with reporters upon his arrival at an airport in the suburbs of Washington, Akazawa had downplayed the possible impact of the House of Councillors election results on the prospect of tariff negotiations by saying that “Basically, it doesn’t matter [for the negotiations] whether the ruling parties win or lose in the election.” He added, “Both sides [Japan and the United States] hope to reach some sort of agreement,” showing his intention to continue negotiations. <Meanwhile, in a CNBC interview on Monday, Bessent commented: “Our priorities are not the internal workings of the Japanese government. Our priorities are getting the best deal for the American people.” >In South Korea’s ‘apple county’, farmers beg not to be sacrificed for US trade deal archive.ph/MzYOs <The apples grown in the South Korean county of Cheongsong in the country’s south-east are so renowned for their flavour that they are often given out in neatly packaged gift boxes during national holidays. <But apple farmers, who account for about a third of the roughly 14,000 households in the sleepy rural area, worry that their way of life could be under threat from an influx of cheap US imports. <South Korea’s trade minister suggested last week that Seoul could make concessions on some agricultural imports, although he said sensitive items should be protected, as part of any deal to eliminate or reduce punishing US tariffs on the country’s cars, steel and other key exports.
[Expand Post]>South Korea weighs painful concessions to avert Trump’s looming tariffs archive.ph/fa2Za <South Korea will hold high-level trade talks with the US on July 25, accelerating efforts to head off sweeping tariffs by weighing politically sensitive concessions that could reshape ties between the two allies. <Finance Minister Koo Yoon-cheol and Trade Minister Yeo Han-koo will meet their US counterparts, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, in a so-called “2+2” format in Washington, Mr Koo told reporters on July 22. <Seoul is preparing for a diplomatic push in the final days before the Aug 1 deadline when President Donald Trump’s across-the-board 25 per cent tariff is set to take effect.
>EU approves €93 billion in counter-tariffs on US goods archive.ph/T6J1W <EU states on Thursday, July 24, approved a €93 billion ($109 billion) package of counter-tariffs on US goods that would kick in from August 7 if talks with the United States fail, European diplomats said. US President Donald Trump blindsided the European Union this month when he threatened a 30% levy on EU goods unless the two sides reach a trade deal by August 1. <Brussels and Washington appear to be inching toward a deal with a baseline 15% levy on EU goods, but the bloc is still forging ahead with detailed retaliatory plans in the event of no accord. <Thursday's list includes previously agreed levies on €21 billion of US goods, including soybeans. Added to that is a second list of €72 billion put forward by the European Commission this month, targeting dozens more products including US planes, cars and whisky. >Trump Agreed to Tariff Deal With Japan After 70-Minute Talks; U.S. President Tried to Trade Concessions for 1% Reductions archive.ph/eNIY5 <There was just about one week remaining until the Aug. 1 deadline when Japan and the United States reached a 15% tariff deal. Tokyo had managed to avoid the worst-case scenario of U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration levying duties of 25% from next month. <Japan succeeded in lowering not only what Trump calls “reciprocal tariffs,” imposed on dozens of countries including Japan, but also the automobile tariff that was a top priority for this nation. >EU-US trade war looms as an uneven agreement takes shape archive.ph/v9ie5 <Although Ursula von der Leyen is in Asia, scheduled to attend a summit of European Union and Chinese leaders on Thursday, July 24, her attention is undoubtedly focused on the United States. The EU's relations with Beijing are far from smooth. On the contrary, there have been several points of friction between the two. Yet with one week remaining before August 1, the date on which US President Donald Trump threatens to impose 30% tariffs on European imports if no agreement is reached between Washington and Brussels, von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, fears a trade war that would be disastrous for Europe. >Xi says China, EU must deepen trust but bloc chief urges ‘real solutions’ archive.ph/ExLIY <Chinese President Xi Jinping said China and the European Union must deepen trust in a turbulent world, but the bloc’s chief called for “real solutions” to move past an inflection point as they met in Beijing on July 24. <China’s leadership has sought to draw the EU closer as it positions itself as a more reliable partner than the US and a bedrock of stability in a troubled world. <But the EU has made it clear there are deep divisions over trade, fears that cheap, subsidised Chinese goods could overwhelm European markets and Beijing’s tacit support for Russia’s war against Ukraine. <Though the meeting was nominally intended to celebrate 50 years of diplomatic ties, the long list of grievances set the stage for a contentious summit. >Vietnam to buy two Lockheed Martin helicopters, sources say, as US trade talks carry on archive.ph/fsmv8 <Vietnam’s police ministry has agreed to buy two Lockheed Martin helicopters, according to three people with knowledge of the talks, in what would be a key security deal since Washington lifted an arms embargo on the Communist-run nation a decade ago. <The deal would come after the country’s ministry of public security held protracted talks since at least 2022 with multiple US defence companies to acquire helicopters. <Lockheed Martin is also negotiating with Vietnam’s defence ministry over the sale of C-130 military transport planes, multiple officials have said. <The South-east Asian country, which relies heavily on Russian weapons, has been looking for years to diversify its arsenal. <It is also currently negotiating with the Trump administration key elements of a tariff deal that is crucial to maintain access to its largest export market.
IT'S TARIFF TIME, AGAIN!
>Trump’s transactional foreign policy fuels ‘US scepticism’ in Taiwan archive.ph/LdLTK <Pressure is mounting for Taipei to finalise a trade agreement with Washington and lower tariff rates as soon as possible – and it is not just for economic reasons. <The fact that Taiwan has yet to secure a favourable US tariff rate for its exports – despite being one of the first and most eager territories to start talks – has raised questions about President Lai Ching-te’s relationship with not only one of the island’s largest trading partners, but also its most important security backer. >Philippines, India shore up ties amid China tensions, US tariff risks archive.ph/sAluT <President Ferdinand Marcos Jr’s state visit to India this week marked a deepening of Philippine efforts to diversify its strategic partnerships beyond traditional allies, as Manila grapples with escalating tensions in the South China Sea and economic headwinds from Washington’s protectionist turn. <“Today, our relationship enters a new epoch,” Mr Marcos said in a joint media conference in New Delhi on Aug 5 as he and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi formally elevated bilateral ties to a strategic partnership. “India becomes only the fifth strategic partner of the Philippines.” >US Trade Deficit Shrinks To 2-Year Lows archive.ph/rYv4v <The US trade deficit narrowed in June to the tightest since September 2023 as companies scaled back on imports after a massive tariff-front-running surge earlier in the year. <The goods and services trade gap shrank 16% from the prior month to $60.2 billion (slightly better - smaller - than the $61 billion expected) >Local car dealerships say car prices are steady for now despite auto tariffs archive.ph/n9RHT <"The biggest change that we've seen in our business wasn't impacted by tariffs themselves. It's impacted by maybe fear or concerns of tariffs," said Kevin Shaunghnessy, CEO of Phil Long Dealership. <He says that when the 25 percent auto tariff took effect, his business experienced a surge in customers. <"In July, businesses were normalized," Shaunghnessy said. <News5 spoke with a local dealer who sells used vehicles before the 25% tariff went into effect. <Richard Clark, Sales Manager of Lakeside Auto Brokers, says he predicted a price jump. <However, his expectation didn't happen. <"It never really hit. We are about the same market value and same prices we were," Clark said. <Clark says he wants to know if tariffs on imports, such as aluminum and steel, would eventually push up auto prices. <Scott Van Ness, Professor of Operations Management at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, says he would expect some price increases. <However, having steel manufacturing in the U.S. could lead to greater efficiency. <Until then, Shaunghnessy says his business is waiting to see. <"If we have to supply additional discounting or specials. potening interest rate to offset the tariff impacts," Shaunghnessy said. >Key Thai sectors still protected under US tariff pact archive.ph/iFRny <Thailand’s pledge of near-total market access for US goods includes key limits to protect some domestic industries, according to a government official, laying out the terms the country sought for its tariff deal with Washington. <The restrictions — specifically on pork and corn — will be hammered out in final negotiations with the US, said Pongsarun Assawachaisophon, who was involved in the talks and serves as deputy secretary-general to the prime minister. <The US tariffs are expected to shave off as much as 1.5 percentage points off Thailand’s economic growth next year. The deal is designed to fulfill President Donald Trump’s demand to erase Thailand’s $45-billion trade surplus while still keeping trade open to the country’s biggest export market. >Intensive Diet Deliberation on Tariffs: Details of Japan-U.S. Agreement Too Ambiguous archive.ph/ClCY4 <Japan and the United States reportedly agreed on reducing the U.S. tariff rate on Japanese automobiles to 15%, but no implementation date has been set. <The question of whether to revise the Japan-U.S. trade agreement, which sets the tariff rates between the two countries, also remains unresolved. <Under such circumstances, can it be said that the tariff negotiations have concluded? One cannot help but feel concern over the government’s vague explanation. <Intensive deliberation on Japan-U.S. tariff negotiations was held at the House of Representatives Budget Committee. <Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan leader Yoshihiko Noda said the fact that a written agreement between Japan and the United States was not produced has led to discrepancies in their positions. “The negative impact of not having a document is significant,” he said. <Democratic Party for the People leader Yuichiro Tamaki also emphasized that unless Japan clarifies its understanding of the tariff agreement, the United States will interpret it in a way that is advantageous for itself — a situation that is disadvantageous for Japan. <Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba said, “We were afraid that creating a document would delay the lowering of tariffs,” emphasizing that it was necessary to prioritize the agreement, even if it was only verbal. >Trump vows substantial India tariff hike over Russian oil buying archive.ph/EYScY
[Expand Post]<US President Donald Trump said he would be “substantially raising” the tariff on Indian exports to the United States over the Asian nation’s purchases of Russian oil, a move New Delhi slammed as unjustified in an escalating fight between the two major economies. <“India is not only buying massive amounts of Russian Oil, they are then, for much of the Oil purchased, selling it on the Open Market for big profits,” Trump wrote on social media on Monday. “They don’t care how many people in Ukraine are being killed by the Russian War Machine. Because of this, I will be substantially raising the Tariff paid by India to the USA.” <Trump didn’t say by how much he would increase the levy. Last week, he announced a 25% rate on Indian exports — one of the highest of any major economy — and vowed more duties if India continued to buy oil from Russia.
>Analysts expect baht to test 32 as US dollar weakens further archive.ph/C2e1p <The baht could appreciate to test 32 to the US dollar or strengthen even further, as the greenback is set to weaken further amid mounting pressure on the Federal Reserve to cut the US interest rate at its September meeting, according to analysts. <Following the Bank of Thailand’s (BoT) policy rate cut of 25 basis points (bps), which would typically weaken the Thai currency, the baht moved in a range of 32.24-26 to the dollar in morning trade on Thursday, compared with Wednesday's close of 32.31 baht in offshore markets, according to Kasikorn Research Centre (K-Research). <Most Asian currencies jumped on Thursday, led by the Indonesian rupiah and Malaysian ringgit, as the US dollar slipped to multi-week lows. <“The baht and other regional currencies, along with the world’s major currencies, gained strength amid heavy selling of the dollar and a weakening US bond yield, both of which are pressured by the expectation that the Fed will cut rates at its September meeting,” said Kanjana Chockpisansin, head of the research, banking and financial sector at K-Research. >Rare Earths Rally After Department Of Defense Sets A Price Floor archive.ph/WNhio <The global rare earth metals market has seen a whirlwind of developments in the past few weeks, sending ripples through both supply chains and pricing. A series of U.S. and Chinese policy moves, from Washington’s unprecedented price support for rare earth magnets to Beijing’s export curbs, continue to reshape this critical sector. >On The High Seas, The Navy Is 3D-Printing Its Way Out Of Supply Chain Delays archive.ph/yeBXo <The United States Navy is testing industrial-scale 3D printing systems it says could reshape the way it supplies and repairs its ships, aircraft and other equipment, particularly in remote or contested environments where weeks-long waits for parts are not an option. <The demonstrations took place during Trident Warrior, an annual exercise in which the Navy trials advanced technologies under operational conditions. The event is designed to ensure only proven systems advance toward procurement, and it draws heavily on feedback from fleet personnel. <Working alongside the Marine Corps, the Navy showcased 3D printing capabilities that are already in use, some installed in shipping container-sized mobile labs that can be deployed aboard vessels or sent to forward bases. The printers can produce parts ranging from a small hinge to a load-bearing titanium component, and in some cases deliver them off-site via drones or unmanned surface vessels, TheDefensePost.com reports. >As Trump pushes international students away, Asian schools scoop them up archive.ph/AvmAb <For Mr Jess Concepcion, a microbiology student from the Philippines, obtaining a doctorate from a university in the US had been a dream. It was where most of his academic mentors had studied and done research, and he wanted to follow in their footsteps. <But when the US, under President Donald Trump, started pausing visa interviews during peak season this spring, threatening to deport international students for political speech and slashing funding for academic research, he quickly changed plans. <... <Major international education search platforms, including IDP and Keystone Education Group, have detected a marked decline in student interest in American programmes. Among academic administrators polled by the Institute for International Education this spring, more than usual reported drops in international applications for the coming year.


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