China Cancels Boeing Orders China has ordered its airlines to suspend all pending orders of Boeing aircraft in response to the United States imposing a 145% tariff on Chinese goods, escalating the ongoing trade conflict between the two countries. This move directly affects the three largest Chinese carriers—Air China, China Eastern Airlines, and China Southern Airlines—which were scheduled to receive a combined 179 Boeing aircraft between 2025 and 2027.

With what will they fly then?

>>23366 https://(Webm, use an alternative platform, or use https://instances.invidio.us/)/6z15q0U_4vU https://(Webm, use an alternative platform, or use https://instances.invidio.us/)/E32TCdBgkoY Russians are finishing 5 new hyper size factories for 4 main civil airplane builders. also Chinese are going to replace US partners in production of & own. since retarded EU AND USA imposed sanctions on Eurasian Economic Union and China in 2022 and Africans love shovel own feet into EU and USA butt hole, China and Russia got literally own market where they will be welcomed. All what they have to do is not to fuck up.

I cannot believe only now that China stops getting Boeings. There were over 9000 opportunities to cancel those shit aircrafts, instead they ordered more the last few years. I always when wanting to order a flight, check what exact plane it's using for the flight. >If it's BOEING I ain't going.

>>23401 dont forget. China needs airplanes and Airbus is not really reliable producer of those either. Beside that China has pockets full with green toilet paper. and needs to invest it before it goes to shit due inflation.

>>23350 They already massively reduced their Boeing orders in the last few years and they only have a few orders left open anyway. So this announcement is basically them just making a policy official that was unofficially already in place.

>>23417 They are now starting their own production of airplanes. Anyways, getting more Boeing is dumb as shit, especially since 2016, when the course has already been set. USA could just stop the maintenance service/parts for the Boeings of China and would do so eventually.

>which had a total of 55 planes in inventory at the end of 2024 that it has not been able to deliver to customers, primarily those in China and India, according to the company. Hahahahaha

'Together, we will safeguard the bright prospects of our Asian family', says Xi after bilateral meet https://www.youtube(Please use archive.today)/watch?v=CLUf4hbgfj0

China’s President Xi Jinping hails ‘new golden era’ with Malaysia during tour to shore up Beijing’s trade relationships

"In theory, Trump is trying to use tariffs to force a revival of American manufacturing. But companies already can't get enough workers for the US factories they do have," per Bloomberg

>>23549 >companies already can't get enough workers for the US factories they do have This is not true at all. They just don't want to pay workers proper wages, and/or invest in automation.

western luxury products ain't so gucci anymore

Trump cucked Nvidia card exports to China https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001045810/000104581025000082/nvda-20250409.htm

>>23611 >On April 9, 2025, the U.S. government, or USG, informed NVIDIA Corporation, or the Company, that the USG requires a license for export to China (including Hong Kong and Macau) and D:5 countries, or to companies headquartered or with an ultimate parent therein, of the Company’s H20 integrated circuits and any other circuits achieving the H20’s memory bandwidth, interconnect bandwidth, or combination thereof. The USG indicated that the license requirement addresses the risk that the covered products may be used in, or diverted to, a supercomputer in China. On April 14, 2025, the USG informed the Company that the license requirement will be in effect for the indefinite future.

BREAKING: US officials plan to use trade negotiations with more than 70 nations to ask them to disallow China to ship goods through their countries and prevent Chinese firms from being located in their territories to avoid US tariffs, per WSJ

Here's a lot of the previous posts a documenting the tariff situation: >>22524 (20559) >>22532 (20559) >>22544 (20559) >>22573 (20559) >>22585 (20559) >>22640 (20559) >>22660 (20559) >>22661 (20559) >>22663 (20559) >>22689 (20559)

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>>23564 Bingo

'American Extortionists': Japan Leader's Roaring Speech Shocks Trump, U.S. Amid Tariff War https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=EIao2kkB7Gg

>>23518 (OP) Chinks and Jews… bad news!

Trade Wars exposed! 😂 80% of Gucci - Made in China 60% of Prada -Made in China Louis Vuitton - Made in China Hermes - Made in China Birken - MADE IN CHINA Shipped to Europe to get rebranded, then a “made in France or Milan, Italy” gets sewn onto the goods. Retail for hundreds of thousands They make endorsement deals with elite do nothing Hollyweird snobs and shameless prostitutes like the Kardashians, to represent them. Now they are all panicking! Hahahahahaha Oh and the Lululemon leggings that retail for $118…um, Made in China. China is now selling these items for $5 FACTORY DIRECT They’re all punching the air right now after Trump’s exposed them!

>>25160 Only idiots still don't know. But cattle, especially Western cattle loves being brainwashed and being pay piggies. Ironically they are being slaves, while continously projecting.

Boomers and Jews gave China most of our manufacturing factories. This is their fault for China being in the position it is in today.

>>23518 (OP) the cuck clock is ticking, Xi has no other option than to cave China buys almost nothing from the US so their tariffs are meaningless. US tariffs on China is going to bring their industry to a screaching halt Time for Xi to lose face

Nvidia CEO Pledges to Continue Serving Chinese Market https://www.(Webm or) USE https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=Ynw2ui_34Ts not like this MAGA bros

When will grocery prices go down?

i hold firm that asian countries will never get along

Never. All of Western civilization is just a bit money printing trough which feeds most of the the economy which means prices will continue to go up and never down. We are thoroughly captured by this public sector spending trap. Give up and accept it. Don’t like it? The revolution button is over there — if you’re not going to press it then sit the fuck down.

>>26019 >USA got the money printing machine >stronger army of the wolrd >almost 0% inflation against the word <Fucked by a bunch of billonaires and jews who want even more money sorry pal, the entire world is angry, looks like a colapse similar to the USSR, first slow and then quickly

also, the first signal is inflation BTW

Jewnald Blumpf vs Winnie the Chink 2 Electric Boogaloo

>>26265 Merged

I think we can all see the writing on the wall, Xi is nothing more than a sweatshop owner who is no longer needed....as shown by Trump tariffs. So how long are the Chinese people going to pretend that Xi was ordained by god to rule over them?????

2 more weeks

>>26362 They seem to be content with him. He has gone longer than 2 terms for the first time since Mao. Will he go for 4 in 2027?

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>>26019 Merged

>>23549 8D chess with paralel universe time travel

>>23549 US population is 41% Euro diaspora, 46% literate and 0% numerate (25% answering a 4-answer question correctly is statistically indistinguishable from random guessing) They have a 0% chance of reindustrializing without spending a couple of decades on training an entire new workforce

>>25784 Have you thought why China buys nothing from the US while the US buys everything from China? Do you think China needs digital numbers more than the US needs every manner of physical goods?

The Trump administration on Thursday announced fees on Chinese-built vessels after a United States Trade Representative investigation by the Biden-Trump administrations found China’s acts, policies and practices were unreasonable and burden or restrict U.S(Please use archive.today)merce. “Ships and shipping are vital to American economic security and the free flow of commerce,” said U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer. “The Trump administration’s actions will begin to reverse Chinese dominance, address threats to the U.S. supply chain, and send a demand signal for U.S.-built ships.” https://www.cnbc(Please use archive.today)/2025/04/17/trump-administration-announces-fees-on-chinese-ships-docking-at-us-ports.html

>>26477 I think this is 99.9% certain that he will get a fourth term. Like Rome appointed dictators during times of crisis, so the CPC wants a dictator during the "Thucidides trap" phase of competition with the US.

>>26362 Dude isn't going anywhere. He's too popular and oversaw the relative biggest jump in chink prosperity. He even made preparations for trade disruptions starting from Trump's first term by developing relations and infrastructure with other countries and being overall more neutrally reserved when it comes to global conflicts. The threshold for economic pain is high over there. They have strong enough nationalism and have ptsd from the century of humiliation to hold out another 4 years.

>>26072 >sit down That's what most of us just started doing. We started doing nothing after they did their hardest to reduce us from trying to do something. Now our leaders are in panic mode trying men to start participating again. We've been passively winning as their bullshit started imploding from us doing literally nothing except laugh at them.

https://www.citriniresearch(Please use archive.today)/p/a-tale-of-two-tariffs You mongs need to read this

>>27340 https://archive.ph/jnVKV archive link

>>26362 I don't get why he didn't just buy into it, would've done great for his global rep if he made the average pleb assume he was friendly like pooh.

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>>27874 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uf_GCOSZ2bA

>>27035 >Have you thought why China buys nothing from the US while the US buys everything from China? Yes I have, have you?? China does not make anything the US really needs and that could be made just as well ANYWHERE ELSE. As we speak millions of chinese factory workers are doing the walk of shame back to their tiny villages because they cant live in the big city anymore. >Do you think China needs digital numbers more than the US needs every manner of physical goods? Yes! China does need digital numbers more than the US needs their cheap Walmart shit because the world is run by the US dollar and China cant function without dollars. Also most of Chinese exports go to the US so they cant shift their exports anywhere else. checkmate! Trump said this will end in 3 to 4 weeks and he is right. In less than a month Winnie the Poo is going to be working as a janitor

>>28811 >Trump said this will end in 3 to 4 weeks and he is right. In less than a month Winnie the Poo is going to be working as a janitor anon? I'll give you a hint. Trump put a pause on his absurd electronic tariffs to this country. holy copium lol

>>23549 wow who'd of expected a population of largely pampered narcissists wouldn't want to work in a factory job even at 10x what they pay chinese workers. this tariff decision is so stupid what they're effectively importing is foreign borderline slave labor and they're throwing that away when the US doesn't have any slaves no more. >>25784 >>US tariffs on China its going to bring your economy to a screeching halt. the chinese retaliatory tariffs are there to save face but it doesn't change the fact that you're the ones shooting yourselves in the food

>>28811 >>China does not make anything the US really needs and that could be made just as well ANYWHERE ELSE the slave labor's the important thing and impossible to do domestically in the US. Meanwhile US has literally a negative economy that doesn't even pay off the debt on its interests and buys abroad to make up the deficit. US is a parasite on global economics. China is going to probably get hurt more but it doesn't matter they were a country that already intentionally tanked its own currency to gain trade dominance. US on the other hand is going to the poor house. here's your dollar relative to some of your largest trading partners in the past month

>>28975 >China is probably going to get hurt more Why? China can just go steal all the US IP that the US private corpos have graciously given them and then go do trade with literally any other country. The fact is the US has alienated itself from everyone who isn't Russia, Israel or El Salvador. Which makes for a great opportunity for literally any other country to go do business without the US.

>>28991 because of existing inventory and orders, The chinese sellers have a huge stock of orders they can't offload and some of the items being transported by boat are just straight up being dumped into the ocean because it'd be cheaper to refund the original purchaser then go through with the tariffs. If we're looking down the road long-term I think china's probably better off but in the short term they'll be hurt more then the US by the tariffs.

>>23549 Import more Mexicans,niggers are not an option

>Japan won’t just keep conceding to US demands to reach a deal over tariffs, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba says Japan just gave Trump their middle finger: https://x(Please use archive.today)/business/status/1914211477801632116?t=rE6pslOjGKWYfFN24dicCg&s=19

>Investors pour into European equity funds, flee US on tariff woes https://archive.ph/arLmX <European equity funds drew massive inflows in the week ended April 16, while US funds faced hefty outflows, as investors continued to shift capital on concerns over US trade tariffs and mounting worries over the strength of the US economy. <According to LSEG Lipper data, investors bought a net $11.13 billion in European equity funds and $3.64 billion in Asian equity funds. However, US equity funds witnessed an outflow of $10.62 billion. >Thai-US trade talks no longer on April 23, sources say https://archive.ph/Z9C3E <Thailand's trade talks with the United States will no longer take place on April 23, two government sources told Reuters on Monday. >US Stock Futures, Dollar, Treasuries Tumble On Powell Punt Panic; Gold, Bitcoin Soar https://archive.ph/qwTpl <Trump, rightfully frustrated that the central bank hasn’t moved to lower interest rates as even BofA's Michael Hartnett noted over the weekend... <Fed cut 50bps in Sept when stock market at record high, Atlanta Fed was forecasting +3% US GDP growth; Fed now determined not to cut rates after 20% market plunge, Atlanta Fed forecasting -3% GDP growth <... posted on social media last week that Powell’s “termination cannot come fast enough!” and on Friday, Trump top economic advisor Kevin Hassett said the president is studying whether he’s able to fire Powell. <Rebuking the Fed undermines the principle of central bank independence and risks politicizing US monetary policy in a way that markets will find deeply unsettling, said Christopher Wong, a currency strategist at Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. “Frankly, firing Powell stretches belief,” said Wong. “If the credibility of the Fed is called into question, it could severely erode confidence in the dollar.” <Trump would put the credibility of the dollar on the line and destabilize the US economy if he fired Powell, French Finance Minister Eric Lombard warned. Fed Chicago President Austan Goolsbee warned against efforts to curtail the central bank’s independence. “There’s virtual unanimity among economists that monetary independence from political interference, that the Fed or any central bank be able to do the job that it needs to do, is really important,” Goolsbee said on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday. <In a sign that investors are rotating investments away from the US, Deutsche Bank AG said that Chinese clients have reduced some of their Treasuries holdings in favor of European debt. European high-quality bonds, Japanese government bonds and gold are likely to be the potential choices for investors as alternatives to Treasuries, said Lillian Tao, head of China macro and global emerging market sales at the bank. >Top Chinese, Indonesian officials forge closer security links https://archive.ph/ZZnMV <China and Indonesia held their first meeting of senior ministers under a format agreed to in 2024, a sit-down that coincides with Beijing’s push to woo Asian nations and offset trade tensions with the US. <Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in a briefing in Beijing after the talks on April 21 that the international landscape faced the “severe impact of unilateralism and hegemonism”, adding that “the more complex and volatile the external environment is, the more significant for China and Indonesia to pursue solidarity and cooperation”. <Mr Wang was joined by Chinese Defence Minister Dong Jun, and Foreign Minister Sugiono and Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin of Indonesia. >China Is In Economic Dire Straits And They're No Longer Able To Hide It https://archive.ph/bOb5z <Overall tariffs on Chinese goods currently sit at 124%, but some goods will be taxed as high as 245%. Trump has given a 1 month exemption on electronic parts and devices, perhaps to offer manufacturers like Apple, Nvidia and Microsoft time to arrange sourcing from alternative vendors. The problem for Chinese manufacturers is not just the tariffs but the uncertainty of timing and sudden changes to policy. They say no one is willing to make a big move on production or shipments until the trade landscape becomes more predictable. This means most Chinese factories are frozen in stasis. <Trump's tariff actions are widely criticized by the media as erratic or poorly planned, but what they don't understand is that uncertainty is the real leverage, not the tariffs. What seems like a spur of the moment decision or a sudden capitulation on Trump's part can be highly effective at throwing foreign governments and corporations off balance. Globalism requires a perpetual status quo, change of any kind is like holy water to a vampire. <Chinese shipments are on standby and orders are frozen. Nothing is moving. <At bottom, China will not be able to survive tariffs on the current scale for long (a single year of 124% tariffs would crush China's economy beyond repair). The US is 15% of China's export market, which may not sound substantial but their next largest trading partner (outside of Hong Kong) is Vietnam at 4% of exports. In terms of domestic buying, China is 11% of the global consumer market which is not too shabby, but compared to the US with its 30%-35% global consumer market share there is no chance that the Chinese will be able to fill the void domestically and stay afloat. <But the situation is far worse than most people know... >Ishiba Expresses Surprise at Trump Joining Tariff Talks, Says Japan-U.S. Deal Could Be Model Case for the World https://archive.ph/pgsbJ <Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba said Monday that he had not expected U.S. President Donald Trump to participate in the Japan-U.S. tariff negotiations held in Washington last week. <“I’ve never seen a [U.S.] president show up right from the start [of negotiations like that]. It was way beyond my expectations,” Ishiba said at a meeting of the House of Councillors Budget Committee on Monday morning. <Ishiba and economic revitalization minister Ryosei Akazawa, who traveled to the United States for the negotiations, were among those attending intensive deliberations at Monday’s Budget Committee meeting. The session focused on the Trump administration’s tariff measures. <“President Trump prioritizes the negotiations with Japan. A decision will be made through the president’s leadership,” Ishiba said, analyzing Trump’s appearance at the talks. “I think these are the two meanings behind it.” <Akazawa said, “The government will work as one to give the highest priority and our full efforts [to the ongoing talks with Washington].” >Japan’s Nikkei Stock Average Falls over 1% as Stronger Yen Pressures Exporters https://archive.ph/vwqfT <Japan’s Nikkei share average dropped more than 1% on Monday, weighed down by a stronger yen that pressured exporters, while investors looked ahead to currency talks between Japanese and U.S. finance chiefs later this week. <The Nikkei ended 1.3% lower at 34,279.92, while the broader Topix slipped 1.2% to 2,528.93. <“Investors bought back stocks as the Nikkei extended losses during the session, but the buy-back did not last long. But it is not like what happened earlier this month, where any drop in the index drove further sell-offs,” said Shuutarou Yasuda, a market analyst at Tokai Tokyo Intelligence Laboratory. <“The market was not ready to become a risk-on mode yet.” >Beijing warns nations not to cut US trade deals at China's expense

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https://archive.ph/ruf0K <China warned countries against striking deals with the US that could hurt Beijing’s interests, upping the ante in the trade war with Washington and showing how others risk getting caught in the middle. <While it respects nations resolving their trade disputes with the US, Beijing “resolutely opposes any party reaching a deal at the expense of China’s interests", the Ministry of Commerce said in a statement on Monday. <If that happens, Beijing “will never accept it and will resolutely take reciprocal countermeasures", the ministry added. “China is willing to strengthen solidarity and coordination with all parties, jointly respond and resist unilateral bullying acts.” >Malaysia Airlines eyes new Boeing jets should China reject them https://archive.ph/QORlK <Malaysia Airlines' parent company, Malaysia Aviation Group, is talking to Boeing about acquiring new jets that become available if Chinese airlines stop taking deliveries, its managing director told Malaysian state news outlet Bernama. <Boeing appears to be returning some of its 737 MAX jets to the Unted States from China, where it had placed them ahead of delivery to Chinese customers. <Neither Boeing nor China has commented on why the jets are returning, and it is not clear which party made the decision. <Malaysia Airlines did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. >Trump tariffs stunt US toy imports as sellers play for time https://archive.ph/TMA66 <"Things have ground to a halt," said Staph, chief executive of Duncan Toys Company, which has a warehouse in Indiana. <With his products now facing a steep 145% levy, "we stopped shipping goods into the US," he added. <Nearly 100 days into President Donald Trump's White House return, US businesses are scrambling to adjust to fast-changing trade policies. <The $40 billion toy industry, which heavily relies on production in China, is hard hit, companies tell AFP. >South Korea Finds ‘Made in Korea’ Breaches Intended to Avoid US Tariffs https://archive.ph/Rox1m <South Korea has found rising attempts to disguise foreign products as Korean exports, mostly from China, to avoid U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, its customs agency said on Monday. <The Korea Customs Service said it has found 29.5 billion won ($20.81 million) worth of country-of-origin violations from the first quarter, with U.S.-bound shipments accounting for 97% of the total, after a special probe last month. <That compared to a total of 34.8 billion won worth of violations for all of 2024, among which U.S.-bound shipments accounted for 62%.

>>32505 >Japan won’t just keep conceding to US demands to reach a deal over tariffs, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba says Not surprised. I saw a video clip along the same lines from their parliament 2 days ago. Now they're just making it official. As glad as I am that there's finally action being taken against China, the fact is that the manner in which Trump has rolled out his tariffs (and subsequent pullbacks of them) has been poorly thought out. His immigrant crackdown is the same. Everything sounds good on paper but then is horribly implemented because of a lack of nuance. This is what happens when your government is headed by a combination of Pajeets, Zionists and Elon Musk. More people need to speak out against the crackdown on free speech and the desecration of the US Constitution just because the Jews hate the First Amendment. Japan should demand that the US lift its sanctions that prevent Japan from buying Iranian oil and gas. That's what Trump did in his first term. He removed the waivers that allowed the likes of Japan, South Korea and India to buy Iranian energy. China is basically Iran's only large energy customer and gets oil at super discounts, which partly contributes to their edge in manufacturing. Oil and gas prices are kept artificially high because of the wars on Iraq and Libya and especially because of the sanctions on Iran and Venezuela preventing the latter two from selling their energy nor properly repairing and expanding their extraction. These artificially high prices are what makes US and Canadian energy profitable but everyone suffers while Jews and Chinks profit.

>>23549 All those 20 million illegals coming into our country didn't help huh? I guess we need 20 million more. Fucking jews...

>>26362 >When is Xi going to get shown the door? He's not. He made himself "core leader" -- literally, Mao 3.0, after the 2.0, Xiaoping -- and he's purged much of the Jiang Zemin opposition. Unless the country collapses into another hundred-year war, his hold is all but inextricable... His death is far more likely than a Hu Jintao style "removal".

>>26362 <1pbtid <days ago Found another. This is a problem that must be crushed now or 8moe pol is going to be indistinguishable from 4pol in days.

>>26477 >>27297 He's a "core leader" -- translation: He'll be dear leader until his death / death of the nation.

>>32598 imaginary line has to go up or you will never make it goy!!!

>>23549 in practice, i think manufacturing companies will leave the united states because suddenly it costs too much to import materials >>32598 unironically yes and why not

>>23518 (OP) What the hell does a "service-based" economy like USA even contribute? Russia provides the gas and fertilizer, China provides the manufacturing, USA provides the.. banking? How are you going to employee 300 million blacks and Latinos with financial services, especially when most countries don't actually want any of these services anyway they are just forced into it as a form of tribute.

Bessent: No one thinks current status on China tariffs is sustainable https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=EXJiua767Jg >Trump says: Tariff on China won’t be as high as 145% >Trump has said that tariffs on China will come down and he won't play hardball.

>>35164 Why the fuck does trump keep backing down.

anyone here still use the internet of the 70s?

>>35202 As explained here >>32582. Trump's policy rollouts are retarded because of a lack of nuance. If I was handling tariffs, it would be something along the lines of: 30% the first 60 days from implementation, 50% from day 61 to day 150, 75% from day 151 to day 210, 100% from day 211 to day 250, 125% from day 251 to day 300, 145% from day 301 to day 340, 245% from day 341. This is while factoring in that there's going to be US mid-term elections in 2026. The point of the gradual increase is to not completely screw over existing orders and commitments. Smaller companies and products can still receive their goods from China and deliver their goods to retailers, while all companies alike start looking for alternative manufacturers outside China. Cell phones, computers and semiconductors would be exempt for a few years.

<he backed down on global tariffs >he backed down on firing Powell <he backed down on China megatariffs kek Trump really is a retard AND a pussy

>>35379 the trump administration's foreign policy is like a schizo gf

>>35348 The purpose of the tariffs is to set a tax to generate revenue. That was made clear when 10% was hit on the entire planet — because they knew that the tariffs would be evaded which would defeat their purpose (to generate income). That’s also why the Legislature allowed it — because they’re too weak politically to enact a proper tax. The US is broke and the entire system knows it and they’re getting desperate to get ahead of it. Presidents are powerless, no one sets policy they happen via osmosis and lowest common denominator. Modern civilization is much too large and too wealthy with too many intertwined interests, no one can do anything except spend more.

>>23518 (OP) China will win

if this retarded nigger backs off now no country will respect him for the remainder of his presidency.

>>35559 its over

>>35536 Then explain everything else that's transpired. The 10% tariff on everyone makes perfect sense since the US was exceptional in having low to no tariffs while everyone else had theirs. The problem is everything else that's transpired, including constantly changing policies and rates.

If 10% was the goal all along he could have just outright impose the 10% without all this nonsense and cause a near capitulation of the whole market. There was a power move at play, he did wanted to drag China to the table by force like all the other countires, but being only 15% of their total export and 3% of their gpd was a shit hand to play.

Trump and Xi are best friends. The trade war is waged ostensibly to bring manufacturing back to the US, but in reality its purpose is to: 1. Extract tax revenue to weaken small businesses but strengthen large corporations who are exempt from the tariff, or are able to survive nonetheless. 2. Foster horizontal resistance between US and Chinese citizens in the forever wars. >It's called consolidation; strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.

>>35838 Any theories that involve Trump not being a fucking retard is pure fantasy.

>>35838 I hope this is false, because if true, then we are even more fucked than what I thought we were >>35559 >vouched for Ukraine >pretends he wasnt now that he lost his bet on Ukraine >vouched for the US war against Taliban >lost the bet on that, made sure Biden took care in his stead >tiktok fiasco where the CEO didnt back down despite all the efforts >"allies" already considering an alternative without them >he is now just putting an act to keep the morale of its supporters enough that they won't lost any trust its obvious the faggot lost all respect to anyone who's not retarded, the US government has basically been in a state of damage control for years already, its so bad they are actually pushing censorship against the negativity among journalists as well as tourists visiting the US >>35597 also, the US expenses in other countries pretty much made things way worse

>>23549 Not even in theory. It's just a claim Trump made. He has done nothing to actually support manufacturing. Right now manufacturers are going bankrupt left and right because of Trump's supply chain disruption.

>>23564 Yes it is true. Workers are not made from money, you don't magically produce more workers by throwing money at the problem. You only cause a labor cost inflation with that.

>>35544 China has already won. Trump has maneuvred himself into an impossible position. The international institutional investors treat the US like a problematic emerging economy and transfer their capital to less risky countries. Trump can only stop the de-dollarization of the global economy by admitting that he made a terrible mistake. He's not going to do that. The oligarchs will literally have to kill him for a policy change.

>>26019 Go down? Kek. Inflation will be solved but you still need to pay more

>>36039 There wouldnt be a supply chain disruption if there was a manufacturing base in america, but due to decades of effectively promoting the outsource of manufacturing to all other parts of the world because it is cheaper to use slave labor and the ship goods over an ocean to then get distributed throughout the continent than it is to pay a fair wage and abide by the US regulatory agencies we are in a situation like this, the tariffs just bring that out into the open for the retards that think everything was hunky dory

So-called pro-Americans don't realize that bringing back all the manufacturing base is a pipe dream. Not only do companies have more incentive to just fine cheap work-arounds to the tariffs rather than spending hundreds of billions of dollars and many years building manufacturing warehouses that will be made irrelevant when a Democrat inevitably wins the next election and gets rid of all these stupid as fuck tariffs anyway? AND even if we did it would just cause mass deflation because people wouldn't want to buy their electronics at 2x the price of everyone else in the world.

>>23366 There is Comac C919, the government will just ramp up Comac to increase production of C919 and they will be good. I doubt that China will rely a lot on Europe because US doing this shit is also affecting west-east trust.

>>36280 >There wouldnt be a supply chain disruption if Questionable and irrelevant anyway. There is one. Trump caused it. That's what I support him for btw. I want to see the US burn down with no survivors. I hope he declares war on Iran and China too.

>>36350 >Iran It won't be long now. The Israeli's are already making plans to send their pet American army in to blow the shit out of Iran's defenses / nuclear enrichment program.

>>36352 >>36352 Pete Hegseth was against the Iran invasion. Now they are purging him. JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard are also against the war, let's see what happens with them...

>Trump cucked to China lmao

So has the outcome of the trade war already been decided? I'm seeing headlines about Bessent and Trump making statements indicating they're giving up

imagine if the chinks don't lower their tariffs at all after this

>>36398 Pete Hegseth is not against the Iran invasion. Hegseth is very publically dickriding Netanyahu at every single opportunity. It's genuinely pathetic. He's being removed because he keeps embarrassing the Trump Establishment with these repeated Signal security breaches that are hilariously way worse than Hillary's email server was. But this is all normal for the Trump Admin. Virtually nobody in Trump's original term made it through the 4 years either.

>>36513 The outcome was decided before it even began. That's how retarded tariffs, especially Trump's brand of tariffs were. Everyone who's taken high school macroecomics could have told you that.

>>36350 War against China will be suicide, is not the same China of XX century, will be 200-300 millions of chinks against 300,000-400,000 American foot soldiers, 100,000 of them retarded (Mcnamara Morons equivalent), society without fidelity to the flag (like the old baby boomers Hippies) will be harsh to recruit, Vietnam was the las proof of the "dead" of boots on the grounds policy, the only las option is bring the Chinese made the mistake to invade Taiwan or Taiwan start the war against China similar to Russia-Ukraine war

>>36513 It has been decided from day 1. Any half-decent economist could have told you that Trump's so-called "plan" is a guaranteed failure. But Trump picked his advisors and henchmen by loyalty instead of expertise. Nobody in his politbüro is skilled and based enough to yell at him when he's acting retarded. He implemented his idiotic tariffs without any resistance. Now the US is bleeding capital, the world is reorganizing for global markets without a US and Trump can't stop it without implicitly admitting what an incompetent clown he is. He's not going to do that. No amount of lies can possibly cover up the mess he created. It's glorious.

>>36546 If I were in China's stead, I would make the Americans pay the idiot tax. They want access to the Chinese consumer market, the biggest market on the planet? They can have it in exchange for a few small concessions. Trump could sign a minerals deal that hands over all mining rights and mining industries on US territory to China. That would be a sufficient incentive for Xi to call him and help him with the little boo boo he made there.

>>36722 >a guaranteed failure. But Trump picked his advisors and henchmen by loyalty instead of expertise. Nobody in his politbüro is skilled and based enough to yell at him when he's acting retarded. He implemented his idiotic tariffs without any resistance. Now the US is bleeding capital, the world is reorganizing for global markets without a US and Trump can't stop it without implicitly admitting what an incompetent clown he is. He's not going to do that. No amount of lies can possibly cover up the mess he created. It's glorious. I think a direct war between USA China is not going to happen. It will assure mutual destruction. Neither a war with Russia will happen

>>36722 The Americans have less than 50000 men in reserve. They've been suffering from recruit shortages for decades. When they turned their military into a homosex orgy, they lost the support of all the rural conservative families that have been feeding the military with recruits for half a dozen generations. They're not coming back. In a direct war against a superpower like China or Russia, with losses on the level of 10000 a day, America would run out of power very quickly.

>>36306 Biden didn't remove a single one of Trump's tariffs

My understanding of China’s power reality is limited. What is the relationship between the oligarchs and the CCP? From an outsider’s perspective it seems like the CCP is on top with the oligarchs like the junior partners — but is that reality? If the CCP is in control and Xi is really in charge of the CCP, why is their military such a disaster of corruption? Why are the state companies all disasters of corruption?

>>36758 War against China would be a disaster. The chinks would sabotage our infrastructure and electric grid and leave us at the mercy of violent niggers and spics unless the cities get nuked

>>36786 CCP lack of more control in their provinces, so their secret police is more glutted in doing their jobs and fuck up the corruption vs USA had glowing niggers even in forums-ONG's and any shit you could think of, that why we see some keks about their cotton fields made from iron rods and rocks to rip off Chinese government, the only last thing China need to mastering is metallurgic, their clones of Russia jets had weaker components, the internal combustion cars are shit, and any tall building is a danger in progress

Trump cant lose the tariff war, let me spell it out to you: 1) Chink products are dirt cheap, prices for household products could go up by 100% or more and even poor people wont feel it. Household products are so cheap they dont even factor in as inflation. All US inflation is due to real estate and food prices. See picrel as an example 2) Trump knows the $USD as world reserve currency is going to die soon so this is the perfect time to go around blasting everyone with tariffs and profit from it. It would be stupid to not use it now rather than wait till its not there anymore. 3) Trump could destroy Chinese industry if he wanted to, there is nothing to gain by doing that. Already millions of Chinese factory workers have lost their job. Xi has chosen a the grin-and-bear-it because Chinese cant lose face and would rather live in a gutter than admit defeat. 4) Even if somehow Trump loses the tariff war its still a win because it will revive local industry. Right now the US is dangerously dependent on imports and cheap goods are actually causing inflation by making fake wealth for US and causeing an artificially high cost of living.

>>36905 Massive cope You're living in the past. China is making high end stuff: cars, cpu chips, software

>>36905 >Even if somehow Trump loses the tariff war its still a win because it will revive local industry that is a retarded take, local industry would only be able to sell domestically at higher costs than before. Leaving the US economy weaker than ever, Americans poorer than ever, and if there is no exit planned no way to recover back to it's status as the economic word leader.

>>36905 you miss the point an eat all the Muttmerica propaganda, the wealth of USD is divided in >Arabs Jews fucked up this one in the 70's, so many dollars still funneling trough Arabs nations >China Making cheap stuff to USA, to sell around the world, from shit thier to the high end stuff, still a win-win from both sides, you only put a stamp or designed in "Ohio" to transform China made shit in to USA made kek, China is the billonaire's factory in the last 30 years >Jews all the fucking banking sector no more or less. >USA citizens still even the USD wealth is fucked ripped off by only 2 nations, billonaires and jews, you still above to the 90% of the entire world population. These old baby boomers like Trump want all Alpha-Gen Z's be the next Chinese in USA soil kek, they sell the future of their youngster, is more likely your grandpa sell his house and move to Mexico/south Asia to even give you a heritage, that's the mindset of that generation, The only exit is reset the system, dumping the dollar and call it a day, it will be hard for everyone if you dare, but still USD still a comfy reserve currency for USA citizens. >or cut the fucking expenses all around, to even the backing sector pray for you money pre-1999, when Glass-Steagall still functioning as a safety net to avoid any nigger, withe trash and illegal immigrant give away credits, and Americans do not need to full a store renting full of garbage Chinese.

Which not use any uranium materials. That's mean it's nuclear bomb without radiation. And it's not violent against nuclear treaty. Don't you dare made us angry Americans. Or your army will gone into dust.

>>37129 Fake. Gay.

>>37129 Source? Also China already won the trade war. Why would they attack their own cash cow?

cool keep us posted, OP!

>>37010 <also sorry for my engrish almost of 3 hours of cries and why the electronic goyslop is so dirty cheap, many people want to return to 90's prices at cruise speed, but also want 0%inflation at Chinese price kek https://(Webm or) USE https://instances.invidio.us/watch?v=/1W_mSOS1Qts bonus sears 1991 wish book catalog (goyslop from the 90's, when the fear of Japan was in his peak, even Japan products were more expensive than China of today) https://archive(Please use archive.today)/details/1991-sears-christmas-wish-book_202208/page/n19/mode/2up

>>26477 He is competent and wildly popular. Why replace him with an inexperienced nobody? Only an American would do such a stupid thing.

>>37129 >>>/pol/37129 Hi Thai Furry Fren. I was going to take a break. But I promised to draw a bit every day. So here I am. :3 Sorry I can't draw digitally now. Thus improvised kindergarten art supplies. 3rd world poorfag income so broke I can't afford a Wacom or Apple tablet now. My potato PC is too low spec. I'm currently phone fagging. https://inv.nadeko.net/S5iLR6Da1i0 https://inv.nadeko.net/c56TpxfO9q0 https://inv.nadeko.net/fHrY6rM7uH0 https://inv.nadeko.net/VgYEvbVPhas Most "le based" /pol/ack redpills and troon stuff I posted on 4/pol/ are actually ironic jokes. My Dad is Japanese East Asian. My mom is a Brazilian Latina. I'm Hapa. Half-Asian like the YouTubers Joey Bizinger, Markplier and Ruri Ohama. Half-Hispanic like Nick Fuentes. I live in 3rd world Brazil now. But I plan to go back to my Homeland Japan someday after I finish college. ( o x o ) https://nitter.net/Pipkinpippa

>>37422 Why did your dad choose to coom in a goblina, anon

>>23518 (OP) The US NEEDS to produce steel I have nothing, please continue as you were

>>35544 China needs to submit to Islam and mobotheism aka goyim.os

>>37146 >>37158 https://economictimes.indiatimes(Please use archive.today)/news/defence/chinas-new-weapon-shocks-the-world-is-this-hydrogen-bomb-a-game-changer-for-modern-warfare/articleshow/120475868.cms?from=mdr >>37422 Is that a real picture? It's not safe to post information about yourself online. I myself am half Chinese, born in Thailand. I'm not interested in any memes. It's not worth paying attention to, it's nonsense. And I'm too old to waste time on it. Good luck in Brazil >>37429 You might get stomped if you talk like that to anyone in real life. Stop doing bad verbal karma.

>>37394 welp, first timer error in glowpol, this one need 2 layers of "security" kek, also spaguetti code do not let me delete/edit my post sears catalogue 1991 with a bunch JS broken shit, follow the original url from archive (Please use archive.today) https://archive.ph/GoLBs and gamer nexus report, a 3 hours of cries in PC parts market https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=1W_mSOS1Qts Trump tried the old reliable it was used against Japan, but fail miserable, Japan was a conquered country bowed to USA since they lost the war, and China do not want a bad deal like the Plaza Accord equivalent

>>23518 (OP) >chink construction

>>23549 >(((bloomberg))) this is complete and utter bullshit real truth nuke: if there was an actual worker shortage, they wouldn't drug test for weed to get a job this is only a ploy to import a billion jeets, slants, and niggers to destroy the West and line their pockets with a few extra shekels before they themselves get consumed by the asian and african hordes the real reason the economy is in the gutter is because they keep hiring incompetent niggers it's ridiculous

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>>34853 >What the hell does a "service-based" economy like USA even contribute? The US sells currency transactions between 3rd parties. I believe it was rep Massie that said that this currency exchange business nets US banks 3% of global GNP per year. It also means that the federal reserve can print dollars and digitally coin clip the worlds dollar reserves, meaning that America is coin clipping the entire world.

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>>38608 Recycling used hardware and batteries was shown once in a documentary linked to Musk, but really doubt the output of recovered materials is big enough to matter in the industry requests of raw materials, so this may all be an other advertisting stunt of Musk using the american government to fuel his own business link btw? was this one? https://www.yahoo(Please use archive.today)/news/us-extracts-rare-earths-hard-213310665.html The real usa alternative to the chinese rare materials exports, is in ukraine, not surprisingly, that was one of the reasons the fake conflict with russia was started to start with

>>38656 fuckshit https://www.yahoo dot com/news/us-extracts-rare-earths-hard-213310665.html

>>38608 Seems like a nothing burger. The output couldn't be that much, scaling up cost effective infrastructure feels difficult, and there's no way it's cheaper than just extracting new rare earths, especially compared to china. I remember how some Scandinavian countries boasted about their sustainable resource extractions and how we found many deposits in the US and others too. From what I remember, rare earths are basically everywhere and the only thing that really matters is the extraction process of which is dirty and China supposedly has a more sophisticated extraction process in this field due to have been doing it for a long time with their market share. This is all just to say that this dumb nigger is calling you a giga-dumb nigger.

>>38608 how are they going to get americans to start recycling? i'm the head of the hoa in my subdivision and i always get into several fights every month with some fuckhead who tries to use the brown recycling bins as a regular trash can.

>>38608 >>38662 Fucking finally! >>38681 >>38656 >but really doubt the output of recovered materials is big enough to matter in the industry requests of raw materials It actually is, the problem is that much of the commodities market is flooded with either more resources that what actually exist or competing against countries like West Taiwan who mandate that the price be unrealistically low. And the result is that it's "cheaper" for companies to throw away electronics that are just teaming with silver and copper than it is to recycle them for newer purposes. >>38747 >how are they going to get americans to start recycling? You people give a financial incentive, such as the reason why people STILL recycle aluminum cans. However you get retards in charge of such recycling efforts, and nearly all of them fail because companies are charging money to recycle the material for people.

recycling is fucking hard with hard mixed materials, is not the same recycling metals and some type of plastics vs a motherboard and high mixed materials, you need very toxic process (acids), that's why many "recycling facilities" were a big lie to clean the "name" of the plastic industries, and sent all the garbage to China until China ban that practice, and later on sent it to south Asia to be dumped in the ocean, and many electronics were send to Africa, is the same process to make coal to oil, yes you can do it but not economical feasible and the very last resource during a war.

>>38681 also, you forget that even silver and gold exist at microscopical level in the entire world, more common than rare earths, gold and silver had their pockets during at certain conditions, water, heat and quartz to form veins of precious metals, so even rare earths had their amalgam materials, instead finding it at atoms levels, you will find them in grams levels per ton.

Chinese social media nicknames for Trump >10,000 tariff grandpa >King know it all >Trump the nation builder, when the nation being built is China

>>39105 my favorite is japan's nickname. it's used both seriously and sarcastically.

>>38797 ha ha, you wish Xi you hit the wrong continent, good luck ever having europe do business with you again. Good luck with the 240 hour tourist visa to buy knockoffs

>>39258 what do Europe have to do with US-Chinese trade relations?

>>39328 nothing...that the point, why is China attacking europe?????????????

>>35854 >also, the US expenses in other countries pretty much made things way worse You mean the anatagonism of other countries before the tariffs went into place, or do you mean something else? I do appreciate Trump's policies directly and indirectly pushing multi-polarism, but I also care about countering China who is a worse actor than even the US. I've argued for a decade that a world dominated by China (and India) represents one of the greatest threats to mankind and to the Global South because unlike the US, which has always received some pushback, China until the second half of Trump's first-term received no pushback. This is also why it frustrates me that Trump just screwed up in his China offensive.

>>39477 >I've argued for a decade that a world dominated by China (and India) represents one of the greatest threats to mankind totally this I dont think people realize how monopolies work. the way that one company like Microsoft kills the competition is to provide very cheap products that no one can compete with. Once the competition dies out they control everything. Very simple, but no one for some reason see that China is doing this

>>39369 My inner schizo voice tell me it's to increase the economic desperation of Euros and win the hearts and minds of the already desperate common man dealing with an already high cost of living by throwing the marketing/brand middleman under the bus and emerge as their luxury product replacment. Though, I think it's just to make money given the tariffs in a petty way. The long term effects will reveal themselves with enough time.

Retard here, what's the worst case scenario if trump lost against Xi in the current trade war. ""I'm very nervous""

>BREAKING: China is considering suspending its 125% tariff on some US imports including medical equipment, ethane and plane leasing, per Bloomberg https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=bGn34HKnnTg

>>38751 I mean that was on one of points I was making. It being that recycling has generally been a more obtuse, expensive, irregular, and an environmentally hazardous process compared to just extracting more. On top of that, we generally just ship this dirty work to other countries anyway like others were saying. That's why I think stuff like this generally just makes petty headlines then is forgotten about and never brought up again. Might be something in some years, but I'd rather wait to see some reults first.

>>39639 everything you say is correct, the Chinese have not put thought into any kind of strategy, they are just going to lash out at anyone to keep their factories open >>39643 The US cant lose. The worst case senario is that the entire world sides with China and the US can no longer do trade with the whole world. Even in that senario the US will survive and thrive under its own economy. International trade is a new thing. If you look at history, nations could not do large scale trade with other countries and the economies existed only within their borders.

>>23564 If a job is worth less them minimum wage then it ceases to exist. If a company has to pay 4x just to bring domestic production to the states for a worst batch of workers there are going to be serious cuts up the supply chain, its not a simple issue of just pay the worker more

>>39665 >US will survive and thrive under its own economy. that literally can't happen you have a trade deficit because your production isn't matching your demand. The rest of the world also holds a ton of US debt and you're a relatively small nation landmass wise without the resources to match given how many people are in the states US plebs way overestimate their economy, the only thing keeping US in power is them hijacking global economics by pinning it to their dollar. China would love for US to be shut off from global economics

>>39689 The US bond market works on supply and demand, meaning US bonds are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. So if the world shuts out the US from trade, the price of US bonds will go to zero. Guess what, its really easy to pay off bonds that are worthless.

>>39692 >So if the world shuts out the US from trade, the price of US bonds will go to zero. No they're not, retard. The interest rate is what changes based on demand. If you owe someone $100 and lose your job, you still owe them $100. What you're describing is defaulting on debt.

>>39790 And defaulting is what the usa will eventually do

>>39790 No one wants to buy US-anything bonds if other countries have good reason to believe that we're insolvent and will default. Which is going to happen if Trump keeps playing stupid games.

>>40110 the US bond market has already been decreasing for the last decade before this trade war happened

>>40264 the last resource of USA is to buy bonds with FED money printing machine, so more printing money until oblivion remastered, always inflation is the kiss of the dead of the nations, you could still survive as nation but not with the same political power, bonds near zero or even negative are reserves, bonds above 10%/year are nearly trash, bond without value is a complete default and halt in all the economic machine, the bonds of USA still one of the best, but also the expending machine increase tarnishing the GDP, Trump is no fixing anything, only want the USA citizens pay more "general" taxes and blame other countries by the mistakes of USA system builded to daycare the billionaires.

>>38608 also i found some videos about rare earth mining, looks like rare earth like old volcanic activities with heavy metals, the Mongolia desert and Siberia are known to be the "big" volcanic explosion during the Permian and the first dinosaurs (siberian traps), also rare earths come with companion of radioactive metals, that why the "California mine" output of rare earth is ridiculous more o less will be the Ukraine mine (not important volcanic activity in the past), China did a cut back of rare earth in the 2010 to punish USA, since then USA was looking for a big mine without luck, also you need a big space without population to put the toxic waste lake of the refining process, is the second time China use rare earths to grab the balls of USA kek

>>40264 Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same. Especially when pretty quickly here the only people left buying bonds will be the Fed. After Powell leaves in 2027 Trump will get his syncophants in place they're going to drop the interest rates and drop us right into a Lost Decade(s) scenario.

>>40929 >Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same Why? The sooner everything crashes, the sooner we're able to fix it. Even better if the crash can be "controlled" in such a manner that the effects of it are either lessened or made irrelevant.

>>39692 bonds don't fluctuate on value the interest rate does. bond with a face value of 50k to be paid in 10 years? you still gotta pay it back even if people are dumping it >>40371 see how quickly the rest of the world dumps their US bonds and the US becomes the next Zimbabwe if that happens. Its not like the US can suddenly double their money supply overnight and spend it it'll take time and is gradual. Ya i agree trump's methods are utterly stupid, like the DOGE thing i can get behind, the tariffs is stupid because it brings the least profitable part of the manufacturing process at the expense of short and likely longterm gdp. Like hypothetically if you were an rich empire wouldn't you want to pay slaves abroad to produce everything buy it for a fraction of the price slap a logo on it and sell it for 100x.

>>40935 thats the equivalent of "fixing" your home by using a sledge hammer and smashing the support pillars because there's a crack in the wall. US isn't immune to civil war or a rampant loss of economic power, sure they have the strongest economy for now but thats not a set thing.

>>40955 to your point, i would add that international trade wasn't really broken. ive lived all over the world and americans have the lowest prices and highest salaries and the highest standard of living out of anywhere. germany, uk, japan, australia, canada. the united states lacks free healthcare and education, needs higher minimum wage, but that's pretty much it. the "affordable housing" problem is not unique to the united states. it wasn't broken, but now it is.

the united states didn't have a trade deficit problem either. it imports physical items and exports THE ENTIRE INTERNET, BASICALLY. google searches, facebook, iphone app store purchases. literally the biggest companies with the highest revenues in the world. the idea that americans were geting screwed over by not being able to find jobs screwing together microwaves is some absolute grandpa logic. it wasn't broken.

>>40950 >see how quickly the rest of the world dumps their US bonds and the US becomes the next Zimbabwe if that happens How is that going to work out when the U.S. supplies all the guns, and the tech, and the money? >>40955 >thats the equivalent of "fixing" your home by using a sledge hammer and smashing the support pillars because there's a crack in the wall Okay, what's your solution then? How do we bring manufacturing back home? How do we stop domestic companies from making majority of their products in other countries? >>40958 >i would add that international trade wasn't really broken Yes, it is. >americans have the lowest prices and highest salaries and the highest standard of living out of anywhere <Yes, it's nice how everything is so "affordable" when I cannot get a fucking job and have to mooch off my parents and the government in order to bring in an income.

>>40971 >I cannot get a fucking job >have to mooch off my parents >and the government sounds to me like you are about to be doubly fucked by the trade policy destroying almost all domestic manufacturing and every other type of business, the cuts to federal spending, the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd good luck, fatass

>>40971 >my life sucks and its definitely because of international trade because populist conservatives who are trying to win my vote with viral rhetoric keep saying it

>>41002 >destroying almost all domestic manufacturing What "domestic manufacturing"? >the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd They've BEEN doing that since 1971 >>41004 Nice double post

>>41014 >What "domestic manufacturing"? https://archive.today/https://www.(Webm or) USE https://archive.today/https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=1W_mSOS1Qts >>the possibly steamrolling of the federal reserve to create massive inflation of the usd >They've BEEN doing that since 1971 you really need to figure out what the hell you're talking about because currently you don't >Nice double post nice double chairs

>>41019 i don't know what useless garbage it just tried to do to that youtube link but the title of the video is >The Death of Affordable Computing | Tariffs Impact & Investigation

>>41021 >The Death of Affordable Computing So that means game companies will have to supporting Windows 7 and the PS3 again as no one is going to buy an overpriced POS spyware device just to run their bloated software that craters system performance for it's AI-generated fake-frame rates and ray-tracing that STILL doesn't work properly. I don't see this being a bad thing. Also... >Computing Here's seven year old list (As in, doesn't account for "recent" events like Intel having abandoned manufacturing in the U.S. several years ago) of EVERYTHING computer related made in the U.S. : archive.is/Ks7NH So again, I ask, WHAT domestic manufacturing? Nothing is made in the U.S. We import everything. The only thing we "export" is just ideas.

>>40971 >I can ad Joe Smith was fired because some IA specialize in services skynet was bough by the HQ ultra patriotic corporation, those bonuses of CEO's laying off people are hot, investor are the "numba" one priority, well at least stock went up, some New Yorker HFT will be happy, those billions expended by the government at work

>>37444 > >>>37158 https://archive.today/https://economictimes.indiatimes(Please use archive.today)/news/defence/chinas-new-weapon-shocks-the-world-is-this-hydrogen-bomb-a-game-changer-for-modern-warfare/articleshow/120475868.cms?from=mdr Its mangnesium hydrate, its far too difficult to manufacture to be wasted on making bombs. Its likely going to be used as fuel in solid fuel cells for high end weight sensitive applications like drones and rockets. And when used in a bomb, its not a nuclear detonation, it is used as very expensive fuel in a thermobaric explosion.

>>23437 >>23464 China's fleet is 40% Boeing though, this could get ugly

>>40962 Of course it wasn't broken. But the whole point of Trump's platform is bold-facedly lying about it so that you genuinely think and are outraged like it is your problem. Just like he lied about being a Dictator only on day 1 lol. Now that any American's house can be unlawfully "Trumpvestigated" by ICE contrary to the 4th maybe everyone should start looking into exercising their 2nd.

>>40935 I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age.

>>41250 worst, with a very capable manufacturing rival like China is a dangerous gamble, even before money concept phoenicians were trading, the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff, phoenicians and XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs, phoenicians had to deal like Persian empire, and later on Roman Empire, China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars, China is moving towards a "updated" army and manufacturing power, Trumptards instead cold down the economy (Fed Funds high Interest Rates) buy less chinese goyslop, want lower the interest rate, expend like crazy and blame any one instead taking the accountability of their own public and private institutions fails, we saw it in 2000's, 2008 who the printing machine "solve" the problem and the rest of the world eat the toxic USD money clipping, and where we go again, shit... this time with a even bigger China, new parallel currencies (crypto, an money swaps avoiding USD as a exchange currencie)

>>41250 >I thought Trumptoids wanted to Make America Great Again? >Not plunge us into a multi-decade economic dark age Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? >>41261 >a very capable manufacturing rival like China West Taiwan produces more shit than they're capable of selling, their entire economy is on the brink of collapse, their own citizens are LITERALLY lying flat with the expressed desire of becoming a vegetable, and their entire history is one incident after another of them ALWAYS losing every single war they have ever participated in. >the power is not in the money itself, is the control on trading stuff Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. >XIX century China did not have a capable army to defend themselves from corporate thiefs Wasn't it it the Qianlong Emperor that said, and I quote: <Our Celestial Empire possesses all things in prolific abundance and lacks no product within its borders. There is therefore no need to import the manufactures of outside barbarians in exchange for our own produce. So how did they lose, not one but, TWO WARS against the fucking Bongs? >China was demolished by UK and their allies during opium wars Which, by the way, was started by the Chinese raiding ships and seizing cargo on the excuse that it was to "prevent" the trade of opium (But really to steal stuff without having to pay for it), but all the while ignoring that Chinese elites had been smoking that shit for centuries (Even during their "ban"), and that the actual peace treaties and agreements of the now so-called "Opium Wars" only ever mentioned opium ONCE' in demanding a reparation of "six million dollars". And all this was topped by another bout of Chinese stupidity half a century later with the Boxer Rebellion. Where the Chinese decided that the "best" way to expel all the foreigners was to kill their own people and destroy thousands of years of Chinese history.

>>41272 >Which is why the entire shipping industry across the globe is either panic buying or currently on hold and waiting to see the outcome of Trump's negotiations instead of ignoring them altogether is bypassing the U.S. for "other markets" that exist in Europe, South American, Africa, Asia, and non-U.S. North America. Nope, those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs, like 1-2 months worth of a factorie job, cooler master had by example 30 millions USD of stuff frozen in a buffer land, instead from directly send 100%-80% to USA and later send it to the rest of the world, cooler master will be forced to open local HUB's distribution sites, but this will take like 5-6 months, even less American jobs by the process finished, the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded as the Autartic Spain, the only way to solve the monetary impairs i to return gold standard, but muttmerica stole it in the 70's at the first place, so the lack of confidence still there, also America in the 50's lacks of competition post WW2 by obvious reasons (factories blew up in Japan, Europe, China, and cold war cut in half Europe as a USSR slave states), but again if you want make America great again, paired with a value standard, tie up the banking sector, and work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, or by soft power blow up the entire world in a WW3 scenario with a confidence of USA will win.

>>41272 If you have to resort to this level of reality denial to make orange daddy seem competent it might be time to rethink your life.

>>41272 >Why are you acting like it's a zero-sum situation, and that those are the "only" two possibilities? Not an argument. It will be a zero-sum game (really unnecessary use of words here anon) when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds.

>>41298 >those cargo's had owner,mainly Americans who bought from the factory before Trumptard Tarrifs taken by surprise, they can unload it on a rented buffer land without passing to customs Like those six jumbo jets filled with iPhones? >the 100% made in Muttmerica rhetoric is retarded Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. >>41355 >Not an argument. Yes, it is. You're presenting two options and saying those are the "only possible outcomes" without any proof or consideration of any alternative scenarios that are just as realistically possible or likely. >when financial institutions around the world don't trust the United States enough to buy bonds They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. In fact, if this entire tariff situation is "just enough" to destroy the "entire system", how "stable" was it in actuality if all it took was a fucking reality TV show host saying "We're going to tax you 10% for using our markets"?

>>41401 >Why? The American continent, especially U.S.A., is flooded with resources to the point that we do not need to important anything for the next few centuries. Explain to me, how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA, even at neutral countries in other continental soil, not soft power level speak off....

>>41437 >how many American militar bases we need to secure the world of USA Outside of our country and claimed territories, anywhere from none to probably one per a country we directly consider to be an "ally". But then again, the American military doesn't have all those foreign bases to "secure" our country or freedoms. Those bases exist because countries are paying us to do it (If we're not practically doing it for free). Because ever dollar they don't have to spend on creating their own military is a dollar they can spend on whateve bullshit social services program they want. And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit.

>>41401 >They ALREADY don't trust American bonds. There's been reports coming out of every country over the past several years about governments dumping bonds and stock piling precious metals and other assets. An issue present LONG before Trump got into office, and why "alternatives" like BRICS were realistically being considered in the first place. And carrying with it the implication that there's nothing Trump can do in the to prevent it. We're going in circles anon. >Accelerating the process is a stupid idea all the same. Especially when pretty quickly here the only people left buying bonds will be the Fed. After Powell leaves in 2027 Trump will get his syncophants in place they're going to drop the interest rates and drop us right into a Lost Decade(s) scenario. It's foolishness to admit that there's a problem and to do nothing BUT make it worse.

>>41538 >And that's a fact that people don't understand. We DON'T want to be the "world police", but everyone else wants us to be it because then it doesn't make them responsible for anything that happens, and it gives them a "foreign enemy" they can point to for why things are so shit. Either you're too young to remember or you're flat out lying. Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. It went on for nearly a decade too until people started learning about what being the "World Police" looked like in Iraq.

>>41589 >Because if we both grew up in the same America post-9/11 you must know that that's exactly how Americans used to describe America's role in the world. No, that's how Bush described in that particular instance. And he was wrong. Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. And even further from that, the people that WANT America to be the "World Police" are the same groups (Like the WEF and Open Societies) trying to bring about a global Communist dictatorship, with the government of said world order being the United Nations. So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit.

>>41606 It was absolute not "just" the President of the United States Bush calling The United States the World Police. Come on now. >Even his own military advisors where telling him that doing anything "productive" in the Middle East after Operation Anaconda was going to be a waste of our time. And all it ended up doing was repeating all the same problems as LBJ's magnificent failure known as "The Great Society", that brought about the Vietnam War. So if this all isn't true anymore how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? >So fuck off with saying that "everyone" wants this shit. What are you talking about?

>>41610 >how might you justify the upcoming war with Iran? There's not going to be a war. And if there is, it's none of our business. At the very most, it's going to be another North Korea situation, where an illegitmate regime is trying to flex it's power over the region, but that power only comes from their alliance with West Taiwan. And West Taiwan is more worried about trying to take Taiwan Proper than wanting to devote any resources to the Middle East, especially when their own economy is on life support and Russia is busy having funtimes in Ukraine. Then there's also the aspect that Iran has every other country to deal in that region because, surprise surprise, the sandniggers are tired of being in a constant state of warfare and actually want a society that develops for once, which is why you see countries denouncing the Islam (By sayinig that they're "returning" to the "true teachings" of the Quran) and making alliances with Israel. The only "power" card Iran has is the Palestinians, which is a losing play when even the fucking Kikes are tired of this shit and are in active revolt against Bibi (Who allowed the October attack to happen in the first palce despite every other country warning him) because they want nothing to do with his military regime and the prospect of a "Greater Israel". If anything, we're entering another Great War situation where you have elites trying to force a war across the global and a populace who wants nothing to do with it. And they're trying to prevent another Christmas Truce breakdown of their narrative by running 24/7 propaganda about how much we should "hate" these other countries and the people in them, but please ignore the elites who HAVE been in power, are STILL in power, actually created these situations in the first fucking place, and are now pushing for how the "only" two options is total global dictatorship or outright societal collapse like those are the "only" two directions things can go.

>>41613 You have no idea what you're talking and are just rambling anon. Are you just lying all the time or have you somehow convinced yourself that this is all genuinely true? >There's not going to be a war. >And if there is, it's none of our business. There is most likely going to be a war anon. Trump is even more completely whipped by Israel than Biden war. I would bet mine and yours life that plans to devastate Iran and it's nuclear enrichment program are being made right now. Just to be clear, the wars in Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen all already involve the US either as a the direct arm's dealer or it's literally us bombing the shit out of Israel's enemies.

>>41616 >There is most likely going to be a war anon. Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry, like Saudi Arabia: archive.ph/LBWov archive.ph/8VbKE And war would be the LAST thing they should desire since there's also the UAE, and Bahrain: archive.ph/vAIT0 And Jordan also getting tired of their shit: archive.ph/a7d6z

>>41629 >Doesn't Iran have bigger fish to fry You're actually retarded anon. Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat than the combined Israel + United States military? NO it obviously fucking isn't.

>>41631 >Is Saudi Arabia a bigger threat ARE they a threat? Doesn't matter if there's a "bigger" threat somewhere else, is Saudi Arabia a threat to Iran? Also you seem pretty insistance to treat this entire situation like there's ONLY three countries in play (Iran, Israel, and the U.S.), all the while ignoring that there other nations in the region who have to deal with this shit, or even the nations backing Iran's endavors which is why they're capable of acting so high-and-mighty in the first place (In addition to ignoring the state those countries supporting it are in).

>>41636 >Whatabout this, whatabout that. you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid. this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police when everyone in the world knows that isn't true. pipe down.

>>41637 >you're already sinking neck-deep in the Israeli kool-aid And you don't have an argument, so you're resorting to ad hominems because you cannot or refuse to answer the questions presented. >this conversation started because you're weirdly insistent that the US doesn't style itself as the World Police Because we don't. Why would ANY country want to be saddled with constantly having to solving political disputes between nations, and having to send our own population to the fatherest regions of the planet in order to solve conflicts that having nothing to do with us?

>>39477 I don't trust the chinks but trusting the US hasn't made anyone a favor, so I wouldn't consider China the biggest threat purely because I know the world would remain very reluctant towards the chinese/indians even if the US suddenly disappeared. That claim is just the US Cold War era Feds psyop propaganda as shown by proxy/interventionist wars. Leaving the US, its government, agencies and the ever-trusting voter as the biggest threat. The US isn't protecting the West from some big scary enemy out there either but have done the contrary for nearly a century. Given the state of the establishment, I cannot see a single reason on why anyone could trust the US unless they are members of the Elite or an agency, I'd rather have the chinks or anybody else get rid of it because I know people are never gonna trust the chinese the same way they fell for the US psyops. >antagonism before the tariffs Before. Its like signtap.jpg, Trump backing down on many of his decisions while blaming Biden pretty much proves that the US backing down on certain things is not done out of good intent as its pictured by the Republicans but because they are desperate in keeping their position, as soon as they reassure said position, they'll just sabotage their own people, every ally enforcing more garbage. Trump just happens to be their puppet actor and might even have colluded with the Democrats at some point. State police control/Excessive regulation becoming a major issue within the US and the western world is also another bad sign on the direction elites are taking, its pretty much just like the Cold War, with even less freedom than ever. To trust the US is a bet with little to no rewards and too many risks. I know the changes in world geopolitics would obviously affect everyone, heck, it will probably send many western countries into hyperinflation or complete market crash while the faggot politicians in need of a rope run away, but historically speaking, the current status quo is only gonna make things way worse

Donald Trump is reportedly making a decision to soften the blow of automotive tariffs by making automakers not charged for other duties like steel and aluminum tariffs, per the WSJ

>>42004 No surprise that Trump would handpick the Auto industry to be a winner business. Sucks to suck for everyone else who imports Steel and Aluminum lol

I understand the reasoning behind this strategically speaking but could they not have come up with less retarded justification?

>>39680 Except that's virtually never the case in manufacturing. Large operations can and have paid people $30/hour to push a fucking button all day, because it's part of the the process that makes the high-value product. This has been seen in the auto industry for decades. This is the most jewish fucking argument I've heard in decades.

>>42258 i think they need to disclose the amount that will be owed by the customer upon receipt in order to reduce the number of customers who will refuse the package. correct me if this is wrong

>>42313 It's for Amazon Haul which is a Temu competitor. So it makes perfect sense for Amazon to show you the cost of tariffs before you buy, seeing as they're what 145% now on China? Trump Admin must be genuinely afraid of the bad PR though given the incredibly hostile reaction to it.