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Trying to assess the state of play between the US and China Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 10:23:14 Id: 3fd811 No. 43130
It seems to me the US is in a serious bind, largely of its own making. Five observations and conclusions: 1. China is now entirely surrounded by buffer states, mountain rages or oceans. This is mostly thanks to US effort. Other than North Korea, the US has also successfully destroyed relations with Russia and Iran in a manner very hard to reverse, miscalculating that they would buckle under pressure. To close the circuit, the US made sure to piss off Vietnam with a 46% tariff threat. This means China is free to neglect its military ground forces and instead focus spending on aerospace and maritime forces and civilian economic goals. 2. Russia has vast and diverse natural resources, which they are now willing to sell for yuan. Russia's exports perfectly complement China's, and so now if you have yuan can now buy almost anything you might need. This makes the yuan viable as an international reserve currency (although China will need to abolish its capital controls before the yuan can become a serious contender for global reserve currency status). 3. Israel's response to events on Oct 7 2023 and the US' unconditional support has been and continues to be a huge PR disaster. Critically, it has wrecked any prospects of a formal Arab-Israeli anti-Iran alliance, so now the US' long term Middle East strategy has been upended. 4. The US' tariff policy seems like an admission that the US can not or will not compete with China on industrial policy. Instead of trying to make itself more competitive, the US closes itself off in a last ditch attempt to protect corporate profit margins. Important US trading partners like the EU and Japan seem unwilling to join the US in any kind of customs union against China. So unless the US imposes high tariffs on goods from those countries as well, China-made goods would still have an effect on US markets through the displacement of EU-made and Japan-made goods into the US. This means that placing tariffs on just China is probably not enough, and the US might have to shut itself off from almost all foreign trade if it wants to protect corporate profit margins. If so, then, in the future, a China that's trading widely with the world will benefit from scale advantages and comparative advantages unavailable to an America that trades little. This will give Chinese companies more resources to spend on R&D, continuously exacerbating the problem for the US and causing an ever-accelerating death spiral for US economic competitiveness. Ultimately, it means the US' rate of technological development and long-run economic growth will be lagging. 5. The US seems in a state of internal political upheaval. Government and research institutions are being wrecked. It seems the new administration's goal is to shift more power from the state to private capital, simply by making government agencies too dysfunctional to govern. Obviously, a lolbertarian techno-feudal America consisting of a bunch of corporate fiefdoms has absolutely no hope of competing with China, a country with a strong central government and strong public institutions. Do these conclusions seem accurate?
Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 10:28:13 Id: 6e833c No. 43131
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Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 11:44:12 Id: 18fdf2 No. 43135
>>43130 imo the point is to turn usa from a country to an economic zone ran by companies and such entities, the gov only exists as population control. in this context, its working well. in "the west" we all live under the same homo empire, the countries are dead and the flags are simply a technicality until the moment the one world government is ready to be announced. i think people incorrectly see the destruction of the usa as the end, but its really a shift from the "old world" into the "new" one. Never forget, the same bankers wrecking the west are also the same ones investing in china. moving tech there just makes it harder for the European male to fight against technoslavery. And also makes it harder for them to create their own systems through lack of knowledge and experience
sage 05/04/2025 (Sun) 14:38:27 Id: dd42ce No. 43150
>>43130 The tariffs are a smokescreen for all the crazy legal shit that's been going on >surveillance and police and military state all at once >creating numerous constitutional crisises >whistleblowers are sounding the alarm left and right but all anyone has time for is Trump sinking the global economy.
Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 16:11:22 Id: a1afc8 No. 43164
Only 46% of mutts are literate and 0% are numerate, it's over for them
PipelineSchizo 05/04/2025 (Sun) 17:53:27 Id: a67ef0 No. 43184
None of that is relevant. What is relevant is economics, and nothing has fundamentally changed between the US and China (recently). China has successfully leveraged its huge peasant labor pool to buy what resources / food it needs to last through an embargo long-term. But it’ll never come down to any kind of serious challenge with the US because the US is thoroughly tied to China’s economy and that will NOT change no matter who is in charge. Notice how Walmart’s shelves are still full and no collpase of port traffic has occurred? Walmart already TOLD us why (“countermeasures” against tariffs) but most people are too low-IQ to understand these things. The US is going broke so it needs to cut costs, but can’t because the Legislature is too beholden to ecenomic interests, so it was up the Federal government to do tariffs to bring in more taxes. The reason why no one is panicking in the upper echelons over the China situation is because everyone knows that all the major interests will simply EVADE the tariffs — which is the real reason for the universal 10%, the purpose from the beginning was just a tax. The public herd animal doesn’t understand that though.
Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:20:43 Id: c6b54e No. 43191
>>43130 where is antarctica?
Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:27:41 Id: 6e833c No. 43193
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Anonymous 05/04/2025 (Sun) 19:22:01 Id: dd42ce No. 43197
>>43193 very informative desu keep up the good work
Anonymous 05/07/2025 (Wed) 00:48:11 Id: aed221 No. 43423
>>43191 Its one giant ice wall that surrounds all of our known continents. What lies beyond is territory where humans arent allowed
Anonymous 05/15/2025 (Thu) 15:26:10 Id: ef0d39 No. 44172
>"In Very Serious Negotiations": Crude Prices Tumble After Trump Says US Close To Nuclear Deal With Iran archive.ph/bih5k <Brent crude prices fell on Thursday as geopolitical risk premiums eased following President Trump's comments during his Gulf tour, where he signaled that the U.S. is nearing a nuclear deal with Iran. Unlike earlier headlines on AI, defense, and aviation deals with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Trump's comments suggested a potential breakthrough in U.S.-Iran nuclear talks. <"We're in very serious negotiations with Iran for long-term peace," Trump told reporters in a press pool that AFP News first reported. <Speaking in Doha, Qatar, during his Middle East trip, the president said, "We're getting close to maybe doing a deal without having to do this... there (are) two steps to doing this, there is a very, very nice step and there is the violent step, but I don't want to do it the second way." <An Iranian source told Reuters that negotiations with Trump administration officials still needed to bridge some gaps before a final deal could be reached.
Anonymous 05/25/2025 (Sun) 19:20:58 Id: d2e1c8 No. 44523
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Anonymous 05/26/2025 (Mon) 09:01:53 Id: a794d6 No. 44553
>>44523 Based china, fights zog for me while im sipping a piña colada.
Anonymous 05/26/2025 (Mon) 10:04:40 Id: aad916 No. 44555
>>44553 They ARE with Zog, you fucking retard. Hell, they are a communist country BECAUSE of them. China ONLY exists because of them.
Anonymous 05/27/2025 (Tue) 09:07:10 Id: a794d6 No. 44658
>>44555 China doesn't owe it's existence to jews you idiot. They're not even communists, what is it that the CCP is currently doing that it's actually communist even? Xi Jinpings secretariat even went as far as telling Canel's actually communist government in Cuba to drop the marxist-leninism. You're going to have a tough time convincing me that Xi Jinping is somehow in league with ZOG-America Jews are just not all powerful.
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 00:31:29 Id: 4ac49e No. 44661
>>44658 >Xi Jinpings secretariat even went as far as telling Canel's actually communist government in Cuba to drop the marxist-leninism. That just means they're no longer practicing Marxist Socialism. There's still other forms of Socialism like Fabianism, Nazism, Stalinism, Cultural Marxism, Feminism, CRT, Queer Theory, Stakeholder Capitalism, etc.. In fact the specific version of Socialism that West Taiwan is currently implementing, and has been since Deng, is a spin-off of Fascism, that they refer to as "One country, two systems" (Also known as "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" or "Xi Jinping Thought"). But at the end of the day, they're still all the same underlying political religious system that we know as Socialism. The only "difference" is who the "oppressed" and "oppressor" groups are. >Xi Jinping is somehow in league with ZOG-America He is but he isn't. Winnie and the CCP are locked in a power-struggle with the WEF and the U.N.. They are working together for the purposes of bringing about a global Communist dictatorship, but each other wants to be the one in charge once that happens. A similar power struggle is happening between the WEF and the Open Societies Foundation, who also want said dictatorship, and working together to implement it, however they differ on the actual details regarding what form of Progressivism is allowed.
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 14:01:29 Id: a794d6 No. 44667
>>44661 >That just means they're no longer practicing Marxist Socialism. Try explaining that to >>44555, what the ccp is doing is just light NS/"state capitalism" and they're just not anti-chinese in the way western governments are anti-white, that alone sets them up for a better place in the future no matter what all the "china collapsing any minute now" people keep saying. >The only "difference" is who the "oppressed" and "oppressor" groups are. And in china these groups are? >Winnie and the CCP are locked in a power-struggle with the WEF and the U.N.. They are working together for the purposes of bringing about a global Communist dictatorship, but each other wants to be the one in charge once that happens. A similar power struggle is happening between the WEF and the Open Societies Foundation, who also want said dictatorship, and working together to implement it, however they differ on the actual details regarding what form of Progressivism is allowed. You are drinking too much conservative kool-aid. This reads like an alex jones script.
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 16:44:12 Id: 3e51f3 No. 44668
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>>44667 >what the ccp is doing is just light NS/"state capitalism" It's still Socialism, and there's nothing ever "light" about Socialism. >and they're just not anti-chinese in the way western governments are anti-white https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/One-China_policy https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Four_Olds https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong >that alone sets them up for a better place in the future West Taiwan's entire economy is dependent upon exporting cheap shit to America, they have NOTHING else. >And in china these groups are? The "oppressed" are the "Chinese people", and the "oppressor" are everyone else. See: https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Century_of_Humiliation <The time for an end of the Century has been open to different interpretations. Both Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong declared the end of the Century of Humiliation in the aftermath of World War II, with Chiang promoting his wartime resistance to Japanese rule and China's place among the victorious Allies in 1945, while Mao declared it with the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949. The idea of an end of the Century was similarly declared in the repulsion of UN forces in the Korean War, the 1997 reunification with Hong Kong, the 1999 reunification with Macau, and even the hosting of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. Some still say that the Humiliation will not end until Taiwan is reunified with the mainland. <The usage of the Century of Humiliation in the Chinese Communist Party's historiography and modern Chinese nationalism, with its focus on the "sovereignty and integrity of [Chinese] territory", has been invoked in incidents like the US bombing of the Chinese Belgrade embassy, the Hainan Island incident, and protests for Tibetan independence along the 2008 Beijing Olympics torch relay. Some analysts have pointed to its use in deflecting foreign criticism of human rights abuses in China and domestic attention from issues of corruption, while bolstering its territorial claims and general economic and political rise. And it's not going to stop if they conquer Taiwan because, per an professor that teaches in West Taiwan: https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Gavin_Menzies <In 2002, Menzies published his first book: 1421: The Year China Discovered the World (published as 1421: The Year China Discovered America in the United States). <... <He claims that from 1421 to 1423, during the Ming dynasty of China under the Yongle Emperor, the fleets of Admiral Zheng He, commanded by the captains Zhou Wen, Zhou Man, Yang Qing, and Hong Bao, discovered Australia, New Zealand, the Americas, Antarctica, and the Northeast Passage; circumnavigated Greenland, tried to reach the North and South Poles, and circumnavigated the world before Ferdinand Magellan. <... <In 2008 Menzies released a second book entitled 1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance. In it Menzies claims that in 1434 Chinese delegations reached Italy and brought books and globes that, to a great extent, launched the Renaissance. He claims that a letter written in 1474 by Paolo dal Pozzo Toscanelli and found amongst the private papers of Columbus indicates that an earlier Chinese ambassador had direct correspondence with Pope Eugene IV in Rome. Menzies then claims that materials from the Chinese Book of Agriculture, the Nong Shu, published in 1313 by the Yuan-dynasty scholar-official Wang Zhen (fl. 1290–1333), were copied by European scholars and provided direct inspiration for the illustrations of mechanical devices which are attributed to the Italian Renaissance polymaths Taccola (1382–1453) and Leonardo da Vinci (1452–1519). And if you think this is an overzealous claim, West Taiwan wants the return of Manchuria: archive.md/7K0UM Expanding their claims over the South China Sea: archive.md/q3A2M And believes that anything and everything that a previous Chinese dynasty touched belongs to them: https://archive.today/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_irredentism Per their world view of "All under heaven": archive.md/jzuIf <The concept of “all under heaven” is the genesis of the Chinese worldview with respect to how China ought to be ruled, its position in international politics, and the subordinate role required of other states. It implies, first, an ethnic Han polity, which is inherently authoritarian. Second, it requires that a single powerful monarch, the Chinese emperor (“Son of Heaven”) should rule the entire civilized world — which by definition should be unified under the emperor’s control so that disorder and chaos may be avoided, and reason and just rule may triumph. <The fundamental ideas and values that forged China’s political culture remain today. What China will want in 2049 dovetails with what China wants today or wanted in its imperial past. There is a profound continuity in the Chinese worldview, its imperial ideology, including why its political leaders sincerely believe its domination provides the best outcome for its denizens and for all states in international politics. For most of its history, China was the epitome of power and held a dominant position in East Asia. Its relationship with neighboring countries was based on a hierarchical tribute system that provided China will vast amounts of power, influence, and prestige. Thus, we can appreciate why a resurgent China with an emboldened leadership desires to recapture a modern form of this position. >You are drinking too much conservative kool-aid. This reads like an alex jones script. <Criticizing Alex Jones offhand First, where do you think you are? Second, why is there this concept of the "Chinese Century": https://archive.today/https://infogalactic.com/info/Chinese_Century And that almost every single new source says that we should just "give up" and let West Taiwan take control: archive.md/XolDV archive.md/0WDBx archive.md/EVfNS archive.md/Hh1lx archive.md/2P5nO archive.md/cIMie archive.md/HJE1M And how West Taiwan is integral to the WEF: archive.md/JTVUB And the U.N.: archive.md/91tXH
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 17:45:54 Id: a794d6 No. 44670
>>44668 So you want what, for zog-america to go to war with china so white men die, again, for what exactly? >west taiwan >muh falun gong lmao dude miss me with all that shit. National Socialism or nothing.
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 17:55:49 Id: 3e51f3 No. 44671
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>>44670 >zog-america >National Socialism or nothing. It's nice knowing that you have nothing of value to say. >So you want what, for zog-america to go to war with china so white men die, again, for what exactly? <Typically Accelerationist tactic to declare that there's "only" two solutions to a problem, and that "nothing else" will work
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 18:44:32 Id: a794d6 No. 44672
>>44671 ><Typically Accelerationist tactic to declare that there's "only" two solutions to a problem, and that "nothing else" will work Funny you say that because I asked you in this post >>44667 and you didnt come up with any solutions from your POV.
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 18:59:34 Id: 3e51f3 No. 44674
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>>44672 Because there's not point in such a discussion because you only have one answer to everything. In this instance it's either support the CCP or MIGA. Everything else you'll dismiss as being wishful thinking at best or the ramblings of a schizo, like you did earlier dismissing everything having to do with the CCP, the WEF, the U.N., and Open Societies as "alex jones scripting": >>44667 Simply put, you destroyed the possibility of having a reasonable discussion. Now fuck off!
Anonymous 05/28/2025 (Wed) 19:43:07 Id: a794d6 No. 44677
>>44674 What is the point of you saying im stuck in some kind of binary but also won't mention at all whatever it is you supposedly think is a better alternative? >, like you did earlier dismissing everything having to do with the CCP, the WEF, the U.N., and Open Societies as "alex jones scripting Because thats exactly what it is, the WEF has no fucking power its just another NGO that a bunch of idiots ascribe some kind of super power because youre afraid to blame jews. What power does the UN have over you? >Simply put, you destroyed the possibility of having a reasonable discussion. Youre a conservatard you where never reasonable yourself.
Anonymous 05/29/2025 (Thu) 15:30:43 Id: f4b86b No. 44695
>>44677 >What is the point of you saying im stuck in some kind of binary but also won't mention at all whatever it is you supposedly think is a better alternative? I'm not going to say a damn thing. You lost that chance. Now your options are to either shut up and move on, are change your VPN tunnel and try again. Unless you're unironically barebacking this site, in which case you're an even bigger loser than I grave credit for.
Anonymous 05/29/2025 (Thu) 23:31:58 Id: a794d6 No. 44699
>>44695 >I'm not going to say a damn thing When did you ever?
Anonymous 06/01/2025 (Sun) 07:04:45 Id: fc1c0b No. 44770
>>43130 >before the yuan can become a serious contender for global reserve currency status Making the yuan the global reserve currency will require the CCP to not be the CCP. It is more likely that the Euro will fill that role. >Israel's response to events on Oct 7 2023 and the US' unconditional support has been and continues to be a huge PR disaster. Everyone's response was and continues to be a disaster. Only Europe has so many Orwellian thinkers in power that they believe that burning children to death is "the right side of history". America has just made a poor choice as to which side is burning less children to death. > US' tariff policy US tariff policy is intent on returning manufacturing to the US (yes, by protecting corporate profit margins). It won't work. > Obviously, a lolbertarian techno-feudal America consisting of a bunch of corporate fiefdoms has absolutely no hope of competing with China, a country with a strong central government and strong public institutions. Only people who worship the power of the state can believe this. Greece against Persia?
Anon 08/06/2025 (Wed) 19:40:12 Id: 0f7ccc No. 45852
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What happened to Northern Ireland & Kaliningrad Oblast on the map? Also, the year the map is from seems inconsistent; Russia has southern Ukraine but Montenegro, South Sudan & Kosovo aren't there. You also forgot to colour some Canadian and Russian islands like Nova Scotia & Vancouver Island. Aren't Luxembourg, Israel, Jordan, Morocco, Thailand, Indonesia, & Suriname still technically US allies? Also, Russia and India are more of their own spheres of influence. I don't think China will rise that much, and there are some other good candidates for superpowers like Brazil, India, Indonesia, and maybe the Congo? Also, see these very nuanced videos. https://archive.today/https://www.Webm or use redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=qn5RORP61KY https://archive.today/https://www.Webm or use redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=BubAF7KSs64 https://archive.today/https://www.Webm or use redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=J3g_ZAx6o64
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