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What the fuck is going on? Anonymous 05/11/2025 (Sun) 22:03:23 Id: 41dad4 No. 43950
Trump wants to recognize Palestine and now Netanyahu wants to step away from US support.
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>>43950 >Israel >sanctioning US
>>43950 Mike Waltz was in Netanyahu's pocket trying to influence Trump to be more hawkish regarding Iran. Israel going ahead with that attack that happened shortly after Trump had arranged a diplomatic meeting with them was another attempt to force Trump's hand in attacking Iran. No matter Trump's opinion of Jews, he is not friends with Netanyahu right now and I doubt Benny will do anything to make amends.
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Mother Fuckers!
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Interesting
>>43950 Jews are upset that if palis get statehood they won't be able to genocide them anymore. Currently the Palestinians are both not isreali citizens although Isreal controls all their utilities including water and electricity, but also not a state even though they exist separately from Israel. This Grey area that the Israelis forcibly keeps in place allows them to deny Palestinians the rights of Israeli citizens while also not having to respect any territorial claims they have. Perhaps one day white people will follow their example and declare anyone of Jewish decent a noncitizen and use that as an excuse to confiscate their ill begotten wealth.
Are we back chat
>>43958 He'll probably do a complete 180 tomorrow.
This “break” between Trump and Israel is completely fake and astroturfed bullshit propaganda. Trump is SUPER pro-Israel and that hasn’t changed at all. HOWEVER, Trump has no power to make the military do anything — not just Trump, but any President since Bush Jr. Right now the military doesn’t do wars, and hasn’t for over a decade. That’s all. Netanyahu was disapointed to learn that fact, that no matter how much pro-Israel influence networks operate in the US they’re not nearly powerful enough to make the gigantic DoD do something it doesn’t want to do, forcing Netanyahu to go it alone in terms of security. Trump is there to help in any which way he can. It’s just that those ways are limited. The US is no longer the global hegemon and is abdicating its throne for one reason or another. The old security calculus is out the window and world is trying to figure out how the new landscape will pan out. Israel is just one of them.
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Uh Oh! Trump is gonna get jfk'ed
>>43950 Simple, thanks to internet the new generation witness Jewish atrocities. Hating Jews is the norm now, any politician that still die on a hill for Jews is also getting ready to get axed in the future. So, leaning away from them is now winning route for politicians.
>>43962 Redeem your meds, Ranjesh.
>>43962 I agree with your first line and a lot of the rest of what you say, albeit not everything. Frankly speaking, a war with Iran will mark the end of US empire. That's why it's fucking stupid but Israel never cared about the US to begin with.
>>43962 this, won't believe it until it goes beyond lip service and the charade ends
>>43950 Trumpler actually did it?
>>43950 >Trump wants to recognize Palestine Trump will do no such thing and neither will the arab states, that's the last thing they're going to put on the agenda. >>43962 >This “break” between Trump and Israel is completely fake and astroturfed bullshit propaganda. this
New import of Palestinian grade A lampshades, 6 grand. Fatima Frank diary copy only 19.99.
>>43950 >>43954 >>43955 >>43963 No archives = fake news.
Excerpt from the diary: "Jews tried to have their way with my, but my fat pussy lips blocked their access as they could only breach .5 inches to 1 inch into my lips. They would say in a jewish tone, shaboigan, shaboigan!" "After they had their way with me they would comb their Democrat supporting beard as they all looked like Post Malone. That was when I realized what post Malone actually meant"
>>44027 You know i'm actually kind of getting sick of this orange disappointment. He's all talk about change but at the same time keeps everything in line of the current status quo.
>>44046 That's all this is, performative bullshit. Just like him saying there's only two genders and making superficial changes "against DEI", while still palling around with Elon who wants to replace white people with jeets. Wake me up when Trump actually cuts funding to Israel, or openly says he won't defend them from Iran.
>>44057 >That's all this is, performative bullshit. Just like what you're doing?
>Netanyahu Blasts Media 'Spin', Says Trump Ties 'Excellent' - Dispatches Hostage Negotiators archive.ph/kxuFH <"I thanked President Trump for his assistance in the release of IDF soldier Edan Alexander. President Trump, for his part, reiterated his commitment to Israel and his desire to continue close cooperation with me," Netanyahu wrote on social media. <"In my meeting with Envoy Witkoff and Ambassador Huckabee, we discussed the last-ditch effort to implement the outline for the release of the hostages presented by Witkoff, before the fighting escalates. To this end, I have instructed that a negotiating delegation be sent to Doha tomorrow," Netanyahu added. <He also said he had informed his US allies "that negotiations would only take place under fire." <Netanyahu's announcement came a few hours after he rejected reports that a rift exists between him and Trump, calling his relationship with the US president "excellent." <"These spins – most of them are born here [in Israel.] They’re born in a certain media outlet that’s trying to promote a certain candidate. And in order to promote him, they need to say: 'Trump and Netanyahu are no longer,'" Netanyahu said in a video posted on his X account. >Trump's Rift With Bibi Might Be Irreconcilable archive.ph/W9n0B <A report circulated last week alleging that Trump cut off all direct contact with Bibi after feeling manipulated by him. For as sensational as it sounds, the larger context suggests that it might be true. For starters, there was bad blood between them s(Hello, I just arrived from Leddit, please bully me)ate 2020 after Trump reportedly felt betrayed by Bibi recognizing Biden’s electoral victory while Trump was still challenging it in the courts. <This is a very personal issue for him seeing as how he continues to insist that he won so it wouldn’t be surprising. <More recently, Bibi has been pressuring Trump to bomb Iran, which Trump doesn’t want to do since a large-scale war in West Asia would offset his planned “Pivot (back) to Asia” for containing China. In connection with that, Trump reportedly dismissed former National Security Advisor Mike Waltz due to him supposedly coordinating too closely with Israel. Also of relevance are the rumors that Israel was caught off guard by the US’ resumption of talks with Iran and is against any agreement between them. <Then there’s the US’ recent deal with the Houthis that excludes Israel, reports that the US will delink Saudi recognition of Israel from their civil nuclear talks, and even speculation that Trump might recognize Palestine during his attendance at next week’s Gulf-US Summit in Riyadh. Altogether, it’s self-evident that US-Israeli ties are newly beset with a host of problems, thus lending credence to the earlier cited report about Trump cutting off all direct contact with Bibi. <Their rift might even be irreconcilable depending on Trump’s next steps. It was already bad enough from Israel’s perspective that the US reached its own deal with the Houthis right after they announced their plans to impose an air blockade on Israel but delinking Saudi recognition of Israel from their civil nuclear talks, let alone recognizing Palestine, could cross the Rubicon. In that scenario, Israel and the US would remain at odds during the rest of Trump’s term, and perhaps even afterwards if Vance succeeds him. <The consequences of that happening would widely reverberate throughout the region. Without the continued support of its oldest and most reliable ally, which is still the strongest and most influential country in the world despite the global systemic transition to multipolarity, Israel would be left alone to deal with threats from Iran and Turkiye. To make matters worse, it can’t be ruled out that the US might curtail or even suspend its military aid to Israel on whatever pretext, thus weakening its armed forces. <This combination of factors could lead to Israel wildly lashing out against its regional adversaries in desperation before it loses its military-strategic advantages, which could spark a large-scale war, or being coerced into a series of compromises that accelerates the loss of these selfsame advantages. From the viewpoint of Israeli interests, this a zero-sum dilemma that it must avoid at all costs, yet Trump’s potentially irreconcilable rift with Bibi could turn this nightmare scenario into a fait accompli.
>>44060 The difference is that I am some literal nobody poster on a chinese cartoon imageboard, whereas Trump is the elected head of state of the most militarily and economically powerful nation in the world and is expected to actually do things for his constituency.
It's bullshit Hot and cold mass hypnosis Trump doesn't get called out on it because he's already established a standard of never making sense at any point in time and magaturds are going to fall for it again
Trump has literally no say in what the DoD does. That’s not how power works any more, the President today can give money to people or groups, or try and take the money away, and that’s pretty much it. All ANY President’s admin has done since, probably Bush Jr., is just try to “win” via messaging. Pretending to be in control and getting big wins. Did you know that even the tariffs were fake — they were literally not even being collected at the border? Did you know why the markets stopped caring shortly after the news? Because they knew nothing was actually changing. Everything is being evaded, and I doubt even the baseline 10% is being collected, literally nothing will change. It’s all just media traumas, public sector unions mobilizing people to roll back the job losses in the government, that’s all. Trump can’t even deport ILLEGAL ALIENS and you want him to GO TO WAR? Completely absurd, that’s not how this works at all. People have this image of the President sitting in the situation room with the generals giving the order to attack etc but that is complete fiction. Trump TRIED to get the military to hit Iran, that’s why all those planes were reportedly shifting into the region. What happened was that the Chiefs, generals, etc and so on, rallied to tell the admin that they can’t do the strike, how risky it was, etc, whatever it took to get them to back off. The DoD will ONLY commit to low-effort shit like light bombing here and there, pretending to succeed at meaningless bullshit, etc, I’m sure Israel is super disapointed that the US is no longer going to bat for them — but what you people MUST understand is that the US isn’t going to bat for ANYONE, including the US itself. That’s over with, it’s a different world now. Everyone started waking up after the FIRST Ukraine invasion when the US did NOTHING, and the second time the US did NOTHING it truly sunk in around the world that the US doesn’t do war anymore. That’s WHY Iran and the Houthis felt emboldened in the first place. There’s going to be Happenings all over the world now that it’s evident that the US isn’t no longer involved in hard power. That’s why all the effort the Saudis and Qatar are pumping into relations with Trump will result in ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The media will tell you that Trump is going to be the Saudis BFF but WATCH, just fucking WATCH as Trump doesn’t lift a FINGER for them. You need to understand that it’s not a Trump issue, it’s an issue with the very structure of American power and politics which no longer can be controlled by any one person. Remember this post.
>>43950 Would be nice if Trump actually distanced the US from Israel. But it's another gay ass wait and see. I'm not optimistic. He recently did a speech in Saudi Arabia that lifted sanctions on Syria and condemned neocons and nations building western interventions. I believe that was what was the rumors were swirling around on. The speech was giddy worthy because not only did it trash the establishment it also got the US $600 billion in investments, negotiating for $1 trillion. That and the drug price control thing has Trump on an overall great trajectory for his early second term, despite some hiccups. I dare cope to hope only to fall for it again.
>>43950 >be the one apartheid nation fighting a people who could stand up on their own, and can keep their own nation after conceeding >survives ????
More political teather,More political teather,this is just meant to calm down the REAL right-wingers so they don't feel scammed by what they voted for and don't turn against the goverment that claims to be on their side nothing is actually going to happen
>Netanyahu Charges Macron With 'Despicable' Support For Hamas As Spat Deepens archive.ph/DESXp <Macron here seemed to be calling on Washington to essentially put the Netanyahu government in its place, as Trump has sidelined Tel Aviv on everything from the Houthi ceasefire to gaining the freedom of Israeli-American hostage Edan Alexander. And more: <"My job is to do everything I can to make it stop," Macron said, adding that the possibility of revisiting the EU trade cooperation agreements with Israel is on the table. <Never one to back down from a diplomatic war of words, Netanyahu hit back on Wednesday, going so far as to say that Macron stands with Hamas. <"Macron has once again chosen to stand with a murderous terrorist organization and echo its despicable propaganda, accusing Israel of blood libels," a statement from the Israeli prime minister's office said. <"Instead of supporting the Western democratic camp fighting the Islamist terrorist organizations and calling for the release of the hostages, Macron is once again demanding that Israel surrender and reward terrorism," the blistering Netanyahu statement added. >Reuters: Bypassed by Trump, Israel Dismayed but Silent archive.ph/aRN2S <Israel’s right-wing government has maintained a diplomatic silence this week as U.S. President Donald Trump fired off a blizzard of announcements that have shaken Israeli assumptions about their country’s standing with its most important ally. <Trump’s decision to bypass Israel during his current visit to the Middle East had already been seen as a marker of the his administration’s increased focus on lucrative business deals with wealthy Gulf countries, including Qatar, which Israeli officials have long accused of helping Hamas. <Even before the trip began, Israel was on edge over U.S. talks with its arch-enemy Iran and over Trump’s decision to stop bombing the Houthis in Yemen, regardless of the Iranian-backed group’s determination to keep up its own missile strikes against Israel. <Israeli officials were then forced to stand by and watch as the United States negotiated to reach a deal with the Palestinian militant group Hamas to bring home Edan Alexander, the last surviving American hostage in Gaza. <Since then, they have had to listen as Trump declared an end to sanctions on Syria and called for a normalization of relations with the new government in Damascus, which Israel regards as a barely disguised jihadist regime. <Even as Trump spoke in Riyadh on Tuesday, claiming credit for the ceasefire agreement with the Houthis, Israeli media noted that warning sirens were sounding in areas across Israel including Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as a missile from Yemen headed towards them. <Trump himself has brushed off any suggestion of a break with Israel, telling reporters accompanying him in the Gulf that his visit would ultimately benefit a country that has so far viewed him as one of its staunchest supporters. <“This is good for Israel, having a relationship like I have with these countries; Middle Eastern countries, essentially all of them,” he said. <Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has so far made no comment, beyond thanking Trump for helping with the release of Alexander.
>>44127 people falling for it were never right-wing but a bunch of retarded partisans desperate for a drop of water. It's awful how easy it is to co-opt nationalists into doing what they want
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>>44175 My feeling is Bibi is messaging to Zionists, not the general public, when he accuses Macron of standing with "murderous terrorists". The average Zionist has taken a genocidal turn and are only interested in justifying their behavior to themselves. This is causing the reputation of Zionists, Israelis, and Jews to collapse. It is a very frightening time.
>>44187 Zionists/Israelis/Jews have literally always been genocidal.
>>44187 Better hope the Sampson option is just a meme and not real.
>>44188 Yeah, but they usually put on a facade of "we just wanna defend ourselves against the antisemites/nazis/terrorists bro"
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>>43950 Nothing It's all a show
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>>44217 >WE were the best at destroying ZOG's enemies! >No, WE were the best at destroying ZOG's enemies, and we're gearing up to do it again! It's all so tiresome.
>>44191 I bet the samson option isnt bombs aimed at european capitals, its just the threat of revealing whos been on epsteins and other jews degenerate drug fueled parties
>>44222 I think they'd much rather wage genocidal war against whites than expose their own shabbos goyim.
>>44222 Every politician dumping their blackmail files at the same time would be hilarious because nobody would care and it would be forgotten in a week.
>>43950 >Trump declares he will end the war >Bibi repeatedly promises to end the war >Bibi prolongs the war to change Israeli society >Bibi has AIPAC and other groups rally to continue the war >Bibi has the Cyrus Accords continuously pushed, despite how they would require Iran to collapse >Bibi humiliates Trump by giving him a golden pager after the debacle about exploding pagers >Trump notices Bibi's disrespect for him >Trump finally steps toward the Arabs (Qataris) who have been planting themselves as the new allies of America (look into Qatari investments in US education) >Trump cuts off Bibi >Trump allegedly begins to move to cut off AIPAC If things continue this way, Qatar will be America's new "Greatest Ally" despite Qatar's numerous links to terrorism and its state-sponsorship of Salafism.
>>44235 These are the opinions of someone drunk on magical thinking. Wake up


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