>>5728 >Death Battle Thread gets made >Death Battle conversation dies out LOL

>>5793 I mean there was only a couple posts about it, and like a third of the conversation was that there was no solid way to measure aura for us to use. Since Aura in general is inconsistent from early to later seasons, like how it was a passive shield to an active one.

>>5796 Aura has some consistency, and most of its anti-feats are outliers. Aura itself is in flux since using semblances is fueled by aura.

>Ruby: "You... rrrgh! You really whine a lot!" >Jeremy: "Uhhh, did I fuckin' ask, kiddo?" I get the feeling that Scout would be real happy not being the youngest one around after meeting the cast.

>>5808 Yeah. He'd definitely hit on all the girls even after Yang would knock him on his ass.

Since RWBY is getting a Volume 10 (see >>>/rwby/5617 ) I wonder if Death Battle is going to delay their Maka vs Ruby video until that happens? Honestly most of post V3 is just anti-feats for Ruby IMO, even though her semblance should theoretically make her an OP character comparable to The Flash.

Zuko vs Cinder - Go!

>>6518 This fails for the same reason Cinder vs Azula fails, the disparity in power is insane. Peak Zuko (during Sozin's comet) would be the only one with a shadowy hope of fighting Cinder, same as Azula. I like Zuko, but he's not winning this one. Maiden powers aside, Cinder's semblance puts her on equal footing for heat manipulation, her aura means she can ignore most damage that might hit her and gives her phenomenal strength, she's skilled in hand to hand and weapons combat, easily equal to Zuko's own. Speed wise RWBY characters in general re pretty fast and Cinder is in the upper tiers, easily faster than 90% of the ATLA-verse. Add in the Maiden powers and Cinder basically has the powers of The Avatar State. The only thing missing is spirit-connection, but those are situational.

>>5808 >>5818 This sounds like Issei lol.

>>6518 >>6672 There's only one "firebender" that stands a chance

>>5728 I'm actually placing my bets on scout here. The shotgun allows him to remain outside crescent rose's range and is faster and more versatile than ruby's ranged ability. Although Ruby does have aura which means scout is more easily worn down while she remains unwounded, this advantage can be completely negated with mad milk and consistency. Furthermore Ruby is WAY less insane than scout, and probaby wouldn't kill someone if her life was on the line. It's probably this attitude that will put her at a disadvantage against someone who's so callous about taking lives to the extent beating others do death with a bat is his job. The real issue here is scout would be way, WAY more interested in flirting with her which would be his downfall but I do not blame him because we would all do the same. Speaking of, and I've been thinking about this, but the tf2 mercs + saxton could probably solo the entirety of remnant if they worked together. Also Tifa vs Yang was retarded still all these years later. Tifa punched god in the face, yang got got by red vergil incel man and had to double team him just to inch out a win. I mean what the fuck are we doing here. >>5822 They'll probably release it ahead of time to remind people that the franchise even exists and drum up some interest. >>6518 Only an avatar would have a chance at beating her, even if it would just be with cheat shit like bloodbending or imploding her lungs with airbending.

>>6790 >The shotgun allows him to remain outside crescent rose's range It took me a moment to get you meant against her scythe and not her sniper option. Ruby's Aura is like a more diluted Uber that doesn't wear off and has to be battered down. with repeated heavy impact, so HP wise it would be like going after an Over-healed Heavy. That means Scout has to come up close and personal for maximum damage and minimum spread. Putting him in range for her scythe and semblance. Fighting Ruby is like fighting an overhealed Demoknight that also has sniper abilities. >his advantage can be completely negated with mad milk Reconsidering the physics of it as enhancing his shot power this could be true, if his hits land and random spread doesn't screw him over. I was honestly thinking more about how Ruby would react to being dunked in milk like a cookie. >Ruby is WAY less insane than scout Late series yeah, but early series Ruby was kinda insane lol. Her entire fighting style was just whipping around smashing people with a scythe. >Scout would be way, WAY more interested in flirting with her which would be his downfall but I do not blame him because we would all do the same. He is "God's gift to women" though I wonder if he would be nervous to flirt with Ruby or not given how he gets with "ladies" compared to "gals" >the tf2 mercs + saxton could probably solo the entirety of remnant if they worked together. Salem's faction is the issue here, Australium or not, they're not beating her. Hazel has Saxton tier feats and all the rest of Salem's group are all very powerful in their own right. Cinder and Tyrian would make Spy's life hell. While they're definitely powerful and would certainly be able to do damage. the group is too small to solo all Remnant. Lack of Aura makes for trouble especially without RESPAWN machines. >Tifa vs Yang was retarded still all these years later. Eh, I never took Death Battle seriously and neither do they. Especially since at the time of making Death Battle was still a lot more primitive in their calcs (see the massively lowball figures in the Goku vs Superman fight). The showrunners outright admit to not considering their results absolute fight or calc wise, and that it's just for fun. I enjoyed the choreography, it was fun. >They'll probably release it ahead of time to remind people that the franchise even exists DeathBattle isn't owned by RT anymore so I doubt that.

>>6787 I don't get it. I'm not super familiar with Full Metal Alchemist.

>>6790 >Only an avatar would have a chance at beating her, even if it would just be with cheat shit like bloodbending or imploding her lungs with airbending. Blood-bending relies on the Moon being full (And if it's on Remnant I don't know if that will work given the moon's brokenness and the nonexistant Moon and Ocean Spirits). The Airbending part is true but it's not instantaneous or long-range. Retaliation by Cinder would probably break the bubble. There's also the question of if/how Aura would protect against these things or not.

People are saying Wooby's gonna die. I don't know the series of the girl on the right - what's the picture of the fight looking like, at a glance?

>>7413 Ruby's gonna fucking die. She doesn't stand a chance against a single battle shounen character.

>>7414 Any specifics on how so? I'm guessing ahead of time that the DB crew will go easy on Ruby and bias against Maya for the sake of making an entertaining episode to watch, but all I got to work with for that call is hunches.

>>7415 Do you know anything about Soul Eater? She's survived worse than anything Ruby can dish out and her soul based attacks are gonna do serious damage to Ruby's aura. Which is extremely fragile. https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3tx3x8/respect_maka_albarn_soul_eater_evans_soul_eater/

>>7419 I hadn't at all known. Heard the name of the anime here and there, at most. All of that is a bigger toolbox than what Ruby has to work with for sure

Fuck didn't see this thread update >>7428 >>7414 You're exaggerating about "a single battle shonen character" but yeah this is a stomp. >>7413 Lets put it this way, it's like having Yang fight Super Saiyan Goku.

>>7429 >You're exaggerating about "a single battle shonen character" but yeah this is a stomp. I dont think so. Genuinely cant think of anyone that she can beat. Ruby would have a high diff struggle with Mineta from MHA. Pre timeskip genin from Naruto could solo all of RWBY Genuinely can't imagine anyone from RWBYverse beating Don Krieg or Arlong from One Piece, low tier demons from Yu Yu Hakusho would solo, certain Hollows from Bleach might be too much let alone actual fighters. Kenshin Himura by himself might be too much for them. Zatch & Kyomaru even in their early stages might solo. etc etc. When it comes the characters they can beat I cant think of anyone. They might give some background fodder a hard time maybe.

>>7435 I reiterate something I said before. Late-Volume anti-feats have tainted how strong RWBY-Hunters are seen as. Putting aside dumb shit in V7/8, Aura let characters tank things like a crashing train with explosives and crashing through thick trees at high speed without a scratch. Yang casually threw a car like a frisbee and Blake cut through the coupling of a train car (the shearing force required is at least several tons of force). This is comparable to many low-end shonen series in terms of feats. As a reminder Zoro only learned to cut through steel during the Alabasta arc, facing off against Daz Bones. Blake did a comparable feat with a casually swing of her cleaver. >Genuinely cant think of anyone that she can beat. >uby would have a high diff struggle with Mineta from MHA. LOL no. Just no. Also later feats in MHA are onconsistent as fuck, taking street-level characters and suddenly giving them speed and strength feats way outside their previous abilities with no explanation. Outside of the main protagonists, (Deku, Bakugo) most of class 1A are a joke. An example would be Ingenium; Ruby was moving faster than he ever has without her semblance during the food fight and made a tornado that she then dodged, time dilation let Blake move so quickly that missiles (at least subsonic) look like they were nearly standing in place. >can't imagine anyone from RWBYverse beating Don Krieg or Arlong from One Piece You're really high-balling those guys and forgetting early Volume feats. Qrow would easily merc them, and aura would shrug off attacks (See Qrow vs Tyrian and Qrow playing with Winter). V7/8 anti-feats are just poor writing. I'm not saying they could beat higher-tiers or say logias but that's not the point here. Hell, early Luffy would be vulnerable, since he had difficulty against Kuro, Arlong and Krieg and before haki had no real defense against bladed weapons. Inb4 striking strength; Look at Jaune in V6, tanking that giant mech's fist. That same mech was making Argus shake with it's impacts several kilometers away. Nora got her semblance after being hit by lightning, tanking it without injury and even without being charged up could smash a giant Death stalker hard enough to shatter the ground underneath. Ruby's strength is underrated too. She pulled a giant nevermore by the neck up a cliff by just running. Weiss' glyphs only anchored her to the cliff-face. That dinosaur size Grimm probably weighs a ton at the very least if not several and even recoil from crescent rose doesn't change that. Yang got punched by the Paladin so hard she blew through columns and then proceeded to tear it apart in a single hit. >Yu Yu Hakusho The Spirit Gun early on in YYH was not that powerful, barely capable of killing a normal human (i.e. no aura, no superpowers), with a little training the same spirit gun would soon after take out low-tier demons. You're lowballing RWBY HARD if you're saying they can't beat something like that. Also you reminded me; Inuyasha. Most demons are fodder to RWBY and several of the characters like Sango or Kagura would be too. Only characters like Sesshomaru, Inuyasha and Naraku would be fine. >Pre timeskip genin from Naruto could solo all of RWBY Anyone who's been here for a while knows Naruto is a favorite of mine, and I still think that's bullshit, Gaara and Rock Lee are the only ones I'd definitely give a win to against Team RWBY members, maybe Sasuke, Naruto and Neji. Kiba too if he has Akamaru. Tenten, Ino, Sakura, Choji, Shikamaru would lose in a straight fight. Hell even some Chunin would lose.

>>7436 >anti-feats That is the perfect term for the described bullshit. I will be using it, thank you

RWBY's never been consistent and the strength and general speed that aura grants people is all over the place. Also inter-series vs. battles are pretty dumb in general cause most of these series are never consistent.

>>7436 >You're really high-balling those guys and forgetting early Volume feats. Qrow would easily merc them, and aura would shrug off attacks (See Qrow vs Tyrian and Qrow playing with Winter). V7/8 anti-feats are just poor writing. I'm not saying they could beat higher-tiers or say logias but that's not the point here. Hell, early Luffy would be vulnerable, since he had difficulty against Kuro, Arlong and Krieg and before haki had no real defense against bladed weapons. Not my debate but I wanna chime in here to speak on One Piece: Even if RWBY character could cut them with blades thats not gonna be enough to bring them down. You can cut Luffy or Arlong or Krieg(which would be notably harder due to his armor) and they'd just keep fighting. Kuro cut Luffy plenty of times and he just kept going. lol. But I do agree someone like Qrow could fight and probably win against Arlong at high diff. In terms of One Piece RWBY characters cap out at East Blue.

>>7436 >I reiterate something I said before. Late-Volume anti-feats have tainted how strong RWBY-Hunters are seen as. Of course it has because it means we dont even know if the early stuff is even...canon anymore. We don't know if the writers remember that stuff or consider it valid. >The Spirit Gun early on in YYH was not that powerful, barely capable of killing a normal human (i.e. no aura, no superpowers), with a little training the same spirit gun would soon after take out low-tier demons. You're lowballing RWBY HARD if you're saying they can't beat something like that. They can't. Those bums were going high diff with street level batman. They can't even take peak human characters. Early Yusuke still bodies them. >Anyone who's been here for a while knows Naruto is a favorite of mine, and I still think that's bullshit, Gaara and Rock Lee are the only ones I'd definitely give a win to against Team RWBY members, maybe Sasuke, Naruto and Neji. Kiba too if he has Akamaru. Tenten, Ino, Sakura, Choji, Shikamaru would lose in a straight fight. Hell even some Chunin would lose. Then you're probably massively downplaying. Or upscaling RWBY. There isn't anything in early RWBY that really competes with the shit Naruto & Sasuke were doing in their fight during the Sasuke retrieval arc. That alone trumps all of RWBY(outside the gods). Ok maybe Sakura would lose but thats Sakura. And maybe RWBY would fight on par with InoShikaCho. But Genin Sasuke would absolutely knock both Salem & Ozma's faces into the dirt.

>>7445 I might've been exaggerating too much when I said they lose to anyone. They can probably still beat some early characters.

This is how DB will balance the fight in order to not make the episode into an open-and-shut case.

>>7445 >Of course it has because it means we dont even know if the early stuff is even...canon anymore. We don't know if the writers remember that stuff or consider it valid. That's retarded. You can't lowball just to pick and choose. >Those bums were going high diff with street level batman 1) Batman tangles with characters WAY above his own strength, speed and other physical levels 2) Batman in the Justice League is above Olympic levels of athleticism and is trained in martial arts AND has a specialized suit. This isn't the L you think it is. Also by that same logic you could scale Ruby to Superman because of the JL movies. >Early Yusuke still bodies them No. >Then you're probably massively downplaying I used to take part in feat scaling for Naruto characters, one of those calcs was for Tsunade's feat of lifting Gamabunta's Tanto, jumping with it and landing on Manda's head. That feat was ~500 tons of Steel and wood being jumped with by small woman and that wasn't even her best feat. Choji up until the end of P1 would be dead before he could use any of his big moves, he lacks the durability to take hits from weapons like Crescent Rose and his super-size form required special pills which he only got the opportunity to use because his opponent was an idiot. P1 Sakura is a scrub compared to any Huntress, Ino would too since they were equal, Shikamaru fights indirectly, which only works 1 on 1 and would be difficult against characters like Team RWBY. Naruto could win but before Shippuden his fighting style was nonexistant, he was a scrappy street fighter with a lot of strength and tenacity and while that may eke him out a win, it depends on how fast he can adapt and how heavy a hit he takes initially. Sasuke also could win because of the Sharingan and Chidori, but that's not sure-fire either. Neji has the Kaiten and Byakugan so he's in a similar boat of being strong enough to win but not easily. Gaara is the one who could win fairly easily and Rock Lee, the latter because his base strength exceeds Yang's base strength decently (those leg weights = a car) and Gaara is... Gaara. Chunin like Mitsuki and Iruka are chunin yet also lack abilities to keep up with RWBY or any Huntress. Not even going into Qrow, Winter, Ozpin etc. >Genin Sasuke would absolutely knock both Salem & Ozma's faces into the dirt. Salem only because she's arrogant and isn't a good combatant, using her immortality to allow herself to be struck. Ozma... just no. Dude gave Maiden Cinder a run for her money, and was moving fast enough to leave afterimages and beat down Hazel in the body of young Oscar, which is no mean feat. Then there's magic, the Maiden's magic IS Ozpin's. The original Ozma had aura, all the magical power of the Maidens and literally destroyed a castle in his battle with her. Sasuke reached that level of feats in Shippuden.

>>7444 Just cutting him yeah, but that's partially because One Piece rarely does people being bisected and killed like that, partially because censorship of violence. Ruby doesn't just slash Grimm, she cuts them to pieces. Kuro never cuts through, just slashes across, which is why Luffy tanked those slices. Kuro is fodder to Ruby, Arlong has no real defense against a blade comparable in size to his own weapons and Krieg's armor doesn't protect him from a sniper bullet to the head. One Piece scaling gets crazier after Logue Town but prior to that RWBY would stomp most of them. Even in Alabasta, outside of Crocodile Baroque Works would be little problem for even Team RWBY let alone Qrow. If early Ussop and Nami can beat them then so could Team RWBY even the nerfed versions of later Volumes, let alone the insanity of early Volumes. I think they'd get stuck at Water 7, CP-9 is pretty powerful and while I can see the lower end members losing to Team RWBY, the top 3 members (especially Lucci) are fast and strong enough to win though not 100% of the time, but I think Qrow would be able to contend more evenly given his Aura slashes are comparable to Rankyaku. TL;DR: They clear East-Blue and outside of Crocodile would clear Baroque Works pretty easily, and but not go past Water 7. >>7440 You're welcome

A lot of RWBY wank going on in here. Besides that doesn't Maka scale to multiversal now? I heard Soul Eater verse got upscaled due to Fire Force becoming disgustingly OP at the end.

>>7594 Not really wank IMO. I think EoS Maka is above RWBY even if you take away some of the abilities that depend on her getting power from others like Death the Kid. Soul Eater was high up (see the Chrona vs Venom Death Battle) but a lot of it goes with the DBZ fallacy of "X character is this powerful so their contemporary is on the same level" even though that's not how it works. Maka on her own isn't nearly as strong or fast as the highest tiers of Soul Eater but her special abilities, especially with her weapon and Black Blood amplify it, essentially using resonance with her allies to gain exponential increases of power. The problem is a lot of Maka's hax and powerups also relies on her facing evil. Her Soul Adagio and Hunt are meant to counter evil beings and don't work against those pure of heart which Ruby is, and while the Silver Eyes aren't effective against a human opponent, it may actually be effective against Black Blood, as even an unfocused blast nadly hurt Cinder, who had a rudimentary Grimm presence, so depending on how you interpret Black Blood they could work. This leaves a purely physical match up.

I think anyone claiming RWBY characters can contend with mid tiers in the Big 3(Bleach, Naruto, One Piece) is definitely wanking. Theres just too many better feats that prove otherwise. I don't think Ruby herself has feats or scaling above Maka's even if we're just talking physically.

>>7429 Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvofYyFmSWY >>7604 >RWBY characters can contend with mid tiers in the Big 3 I don't think anyone did? Arlong, Don Krieg and Baroque Works are nowhere near Mid-Tier for current One Piece.