>>7363
>How is that any different to what was said about Marrow and Weiss or Sun and Weiss being unique to their own characters. Jaune and Weiss' developments are entirely separate things.
Because, like I said, they end up being forced into the generic setup that was described in the literal first response to me when I posted this opinion. It actually ends up detracting from their characters
>Jaune and Weiss developments are entirely separate things
Well, not entirely, they do develop with each other to some extent, like Pyrrha and Jaune develop together. And that is also part of their romantic development too. But that doesn't have anything to do with my opinion.
>3) It very much would be the same trope, just extended over a series instead of a singular movie.
Once again, this would only be the case if they suddenly started dating after the dance. But this didn't happen and their relationship is far more complex than just that trope you are trying to pin them into again. Whereas, in comparison, the trope for Weiss x Faunus was attempted to be bragged to me as a positive earlier which sets the standard for this whole argument lmao.
>You're splitting hairs
I am not, you can literally see someone respond to me in the very first post I made on this topic praising a "west side style" romance as somehow a good thing whereas I immediately talk about how they should be true to their characters instead. Not just being a "generic rich girl". It is fine that Weiss is a rich girl but she is far from generic and acting like she isn't is character assassination.
>You do realize that a lot of those trope stories involve things like a paradigm shift
Irrelevant again because those have nothing to do with their development past Beacon. Its even closer to enemy to lovers or rivals to lovers than what you are suggesting but these tropey things don't properly describe it and that's a good thing.
>Yes they do, the minor details/differences do not suddenly change that fact.
There is nothing MINOR about it, them separating and coming back together and growing as people is hardly the MINOR aspect of their relationship. If anything the tropey stuff MKEK did during V2 is the MINOR part of their relationship and you forcing that here as the template is the issue once again.
>Weiss was derisive or dismissive of Jaune up until after the Fall of Beacon.
Now this is a plain lie. We see Weiss compliment Jaune during the Vytal festival and she is deeply worried about Jaune during the Fall of Beacon. On top of that, even before the dance, she went with Pyrrha and Ruby to go rescue him from the Ursa and was the first to take out her weapon to help him. Plus stuff like Ice Queendom goes ahead and shows us she always thought of him as a friend and even someone comparable to herself. Just look at how the Little Weiss treat him.
This is the exact type of misunderstanding of V1-V3 that I am talking about. You are just as bad as those tumblerinas or X retards who call Jaune misogynistic for how he treated Weiss in V1-3, its just the opposite type of opinion here, you are both extremists who ignore what the story actually does.
>see her rooting for Neptune at Vytal
And also rooting for Jaune as I pointed out above AND she later roots against Neptune lmao
>You're actually being disingenuous at this point.
No, all I have said is the truth, you're the ones being disingenous if anything.
>No she hasn't you've failed to mention any actual times outside of her rant in V9 during a mental breakdown
Wrong, I mentioned
1) When she made fun of him for his hoodie in V4 when he was getting his armor refit, ignoring that this is rude to how he was grieving Pyrrha at the time and it was a deeply emotional thing for him to get Pyrrha's armor out on his gear
2) When she refused to help him when she saw him training at night with Pyrrha's message
3) When she acted smug on the road and mocked him for his skills in leading them
And I'll even add a 4th one
4) When she took control of his own team from him, which is wildly inappropriate following Pyrrha's death lmao
>durrr its just a gag!
Then Weiss closing the door on Jaune or saying "my hero" is also just a gag. In other words, you have NO basis for saying Weiss mistreated Jaune while ignoring that Ruby treated him WORSE kek
>Weiss in the meantime treated Jaune like dirt before she even met him
She actually pointed him out as a cute boy so this isn't a negative at all, it even gave Jaune the wrong impression
>she treated Jaune like dirt at initiation
When? When Jaune come onto her and she wasn't receptive? When Jaune was hanging from a tree to his own fault and she chose to take Ruby instead? These aren't her treating him like dirt, this is her reacting appropriately to Jaune fumbling. And they become friends anyways.
>Weiss barely gave Jaune the time of day most of the time
When he's flirting but this was only during V2
She interacted with him fine during V5, V6, V7 and V8 they were separated for most of the time. Not mentioning V9 where Weiss treated him way better than Ruby and was the sweetest possible influence on him.
>Weiss in the meantime treated Jaune like dirt before she even met him
You say this and then talk about Jaune flirting with Weiss in V1 and V2 and acknowledging V5 so clearly you understand this is a fucking lie. Jaune expressed more interest in Weiss and had more romantic interactions with her than Ruby ever had. This is a fact.