>implying 8chan still gets new users It will be fine

>>12859 (OP) that's not a computer chip my dude, it's a generid DIP package saved lmao I think a web-of-trust kind of thing might be interesting which allows attaching some kind of reputation to posts when they choose to identify themselves and maybe some kind of consensus system? Imageboards will be just that and I think trying to change it would - at least to some people - invalidate the entire nature of it being an imageboard in the first place Active moderation that doesn't let partisan spammers/peddlers take over is half the battle

altchans rarely get retards. 4shits is enough to keep the common pleb entertained. we're fine

>>12892 >altchans rarely get retards Are you sure? Have you seen kohlchan, or soijack party?

>>12889 >I think a web-of-trust kind of thing might be interesting which allows attaching some kind of reputation to posts when they choose to identify themselves and maybe some kind of consensus system? That is against the entire ideology of imageboards

>>12893 soyjak party is made up of zoomers and they're a whole worse breed of retarded, so it's not even worth mentioning >kohlchan german board. nuff said

>>12859 (OP) I am a complete newfag to darknet boards. What are you afraid of? Are we worried about normies installing Tor or are we worried about bots?

>>13376 4chan was apparently once more of a collection of likeminded high iq people that led nuanced discussions. Now it has become a magnet for normies and redditors who can barely think for themselves and write the first thing that comes to mind. https://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/75144649/you-guys-wont-leave-me-like-all-the-others-did#p75145147

>>12893 Both boards have their own distinct culture, but kohlchan is the remains of krautchan/einskanal culture, which was similar and related to 4chan oldfag culture, soiaparty is just this nihilistic unfunny soijak zoomer crap that spawned a few years ago. There are worlds between the two.

>>12859 (OP) idk why you'd go with ring sigs. theres other asymettric crypto schemes that aren't just sucking xmr's dick. Shamir sharing among users would be cool. I think a big problem is that web driver automation like selenium has led to places like 4chan being filled with bots and shills. Anyways, federated instances are pretty cool idea imo, but already done with mastodon and even then, theres always infighting.

>ITT we brainstorm about how to prevent unwanted influxes of newcomers that change the culture of imageboards. You're fifteen years too late, and according to some people, earlier than that. Most of the damage was done long ago, even 4chan is rotting, not only evident from merely looking at the place any time in the last five years but reflected in the stats too. That said, it becomes much easier on: - a self-hosted imageboard where you can hack in features - a board with an actual topic (if you have the luxury of banning politics, or all politics outside a containment thread, this does absolute wonders for gatekeeping) - a board with an actual culture (surprisingly rare after so much dilution from 4chan/8chan sites) When I say a board you can hack in features to, you can even gatekeep with custom captchas (e.g. name this molecule, which class owns the means of production, select all the female anime girls), so long as you're willing to suffer the high barrier of entry - it's pretty common to hear people calling imageboards a dying medium and not without good reason. So if you're going to block off all users who aren't already intimately familiar with your topic, it's going to filter out, maybe, 20 commercial CP spammers and wandering schizo /pol/troons and 2 actually curious people who just can't answer the question yet.

>>12892 This is absolutely false. In fact, many of them just receive medically-ill obsessed deranged people who are kicked out of all the other boards. t. jannied three of them over the last decade.Consider anorectal violence poster (I cant upload images) who has spammed the same posts on any imageboard they can find, nearly every single day, for over 10 years. Even /comfy/ has to kick out retards who come to shit things up.

>>12859 (OP) plebchan does what you want, it's part of the plebbit protocol, decentralized and P2P https://plebbit.com/

This isn't a /t/ech issue, it' s a soft/culture problem and thinking you can fix it with code is dumb.

Create a federated imageboard and actually maintain it. Use ActivityPub. RIP FChannel Also who gives a fuck about influxes lol

>>14283 Thinking that the material conditions (especially the software) and the culture which develops on top of it are completely distinct is dumb. This is a /t/ech issue, even in a code sense.

>>13974 >idk why you'd go with ring sigs. theres other asymettric crypto schemes that aren't just sucking xmr's dick. Shamir sharing among users would be cool Those are not even remotely the same thing lmao. Shamir's Secret sharing is a way if splitting up private keys so you need m out of n "shares" to sign a message. Ring signatures are a way of hiding in a crowd by only revealing that your signature was made by one of a number of private keys, and not a specific key. So you could use your private key to sign posts to make sure you were allowed to, but you would still be anonymous.

>>12859 (OP) well, i'm a newcummer. what ya gonna do now, goy??

>>13446 the problem is bots really, and paid shills

>>12926 I'm pretty much certain that if glownigger hq isn't comped anymore it's going to come out that soijak is another frenschan literal glowop trying to make a school shooter to pass new laws, the soyjak meme rubs me the wrong way like the lack of empathy is the point and I am pretty sure it's artificial

>>12859 (OP) >Preferably ones that can be implemented in a P2P way. No need to reinvent the wheel. Just use darknet boards. >but this is a darknet board It actually isn't, it just has a darknet mirror. I mean boards exclusively on the darknet.

>>12893 Kohlchan is just Euro-oriented. It's run by Germans, with a German mod. It supposedly descended from Krautchan which was known for giving birth to such memes as Wojak and Countryballs. Kohlchan doesn't appear to have the same vigor, though.

>>12859 (OP) >ITT we brainstorm about how to prevent unwanted influxes of newcomers that change the culture of imageboards. I saw this shit before and is the precursor for banning galore. If you want to kill a low traffic imageboard with the muh newfags meme, go ahead and kiss this board goodbye.

>>16716 I think both of you make pretty good points, newfags are fine, the problem is when it is artificial, none of us can legitimately look back at halfchan and say that what happened was organic, when it reaches the point of say, 2016 or 2012 /pol/ and /b/, the bannings are necessary, whereas if you look at all the bitching and moaning by oldfags before then, they were just annoyed that not everyone cared about desu dolls or duckrolling Also a good litmus test for whether any chan is good is whether it allows raids, any chan that does not allow raids is fake and gay by virtue of the fact and should be ignored completely

If you want to filter newfags just host it on i2p and ban any clearnet proxies.

A site/board culture hostile to tourists/non-integrators. I recall people being told to "lurk more" on /b/ even as recent as 2012 when I started visititg 4chan. Due to that I spent years just lurking threads and absorbing the culture.

>>14279 >it's part of the plebbit protocol, decentralized and P2P <website is Bootstrap Template #2 <Discord and Telegram <half assed pseudonyms and 'team roster' to maintain the barest of "professional" faces uh huh

If you want a board that acts the way you want, you ban the behavior you dislike and get your friends on. What usually happens in this case is you have a board with just your friends. Learn to deal with retards.

>>12881 many such cases

>>12881 Heh

>>12859 (OP) Also we should add usernames And be able to upvote or downvote posts based on their quality And route out all the racism. Come on guys it's 2025. And anti trans stuff? Give me a break that's not acceptable

Gatekeeping is a balancing act, it is necessary to a degree - keeping board culture - but as much as gatekeeping is necessary so is being welcoming newfriends, it's kind of like border control, which as a resident of the US I don't really understand t.newfriend

>>12881 4chanpocalypse now

>>18330 >years ago >discussion of gatekeeping was fine >refugees show up >borders? that's what nazis do tier arguments LOL.

We do it by being chuds, pedos and psychopaths. If someone new is ok with these things, they are one of us anyway. Is this news to you?

>hey don't actually implement real gatekeeping methods, just keep doing ineffective things lol this is obvious someone who is meant to be gatekept trying to keep people from defending their community

>>12881 oof

>>16701 >implying irony poisoned millennials have empathy