>>89994 I'm rock hard masturbating to your 8chan posts how am I asexual stop making up arguments in your head to fight with >>89992 I like you

>>89993 You hit the nail right on the head. Nobody on this site has ever said they liked lolis. And they certainly didn't go as far as to make an entire thread dedicated to it, that would be crazy.

>>89974 >I hate it here. Then LEAVE. >>89978 Antis are a minority in the community and need to start being gatekept. Deprive them of business, interaction and attention. No need to harass them or attack them, just stop acknowledging them in the broader community.

>>90011 No, just for that I'm staying to spite you.

>>89993 Hit the nail right on the coffin with this. Honestly I could not give less of a shit about what people are into as long as it's not being translated into real life degeneracy. But to say you like lolicon/shotacon content and try to be your own moralfag and say "oh nonono you see it's actually completely normal given that it's fictional" is such a nonsensical, roundabout way of trying to explain why you like it. I don't understand why lolicon lovers don't just own up to the fact that they are getting off to children fictional or otherwise being tickled. You don't get off to tickling art in general because it's purely fictional. It's a real life thing that people experience and that you have some sort of sexual connection with. You don't see people trying to justify that and they simply own up to it because it's their own fucking fetish. TLDR; I don't care if you like lolicon content, thats your business and no one else's. Just don't try to grandstand your position and say it's just like a normal tickling fetish. Just own up to the fact that little people getting tickled is hot to you and leave it at that

>>90028 This tbh. >hey get a load of this Blarf guy and his martyr complex pretending he's some kind of oppressed victim because not everyone is into his weird, niche, off-putting fetish, what a freak amirite <yeah it's weird but loli/shota shit sicks me out just as much tbf >OMG PERSECUTION!!!!! MORALFAG!!!! WE ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED MINORITY LOLICONS RISE UP BOTTOM TEXT

>>90028 >>89993 I’d be willing to bet that the majority of people here aren’t so much as “into loli” as they think. The majority of people I’d honestly be willing to bet are more into characters that now technically “fall under that umbrella” I’m talking more teenaged looking characters, and I’ll be blunt. I fucking love stroking it to teenaged/jailbait/whatever you want to call it characters, and I have absolutely NO shame in it. A little over ten years ago it was more accepted even. Honestly, I would be inclined to understand where moralfags are coming from in the context of real legit lolisho. I’m going to agree with you guys, they are what they are, fictional depictions of little people. Me personally? Get off to what makes you go, but the moment you cross that line and commit a heinous crime, you should be locked up for sure. Also let’s not beat around the bush. It IS weird, I’m sorry, I’m not an Anti, but it is weird, and even normalfags will judge you for it. Then again normalfags will judge you for wanting to tickle feet in general. Honestly? I think most “grounded” lolicons understand this, they know it’s weird, so they keep to themselves. I think the big push back and anger against “Antis” has to do with the aforementioned Overton window shifting of “what characters are acceptable and what aren’t”, blame tumblr or Twitter, whatever you believe. 15 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to commission art of let’s say, Gwen 10, or katara from ATLA, or some random anime chick, but because a “wiki” says she’s 14 or whatever, some won’t do it and some even go as far as to harass you for it. Basically nowadays you see antis berating others for liking characters that really aren’t “technically” lolicon, atleast in my opinion. There’s a huge difference between Anya Forger, and Yoko Litner, and basically Antis are throwing people who may enjoy characters like Yoko, or Katara, or Luz Noceda into the same camp of people who enjoy literal toddlers. That’s where a lot of the divide is occurring nowadays, but hey that’s just how I see it.

>>90027 this thread made the antis mad. literally admitting that you started posting here out of spite lmao couldn't be any more transparent. >>89977 you made a good post and that is why the anti retard ignored it >>90032 i agree fully, these brands of moralfags are nothing but increasingly destructive slacktivists who take pride in it. they spend their time crusading against artwork instead of going after real criminals and child abusers. i guess they justify their slacktivism by imagining that they're on the front lines preventing people from becoming groomers? or they are so delusional that they believe porn is equivalent to irl tastes when unrealistic crap like vore exists, therefore someone like you is a real pedo. idk the solution is simply to appreciate 2D because 3D is the actual fucking crime, quite set in stone to me

I think my biggest gripe with this topic is that nobody wants to admit that there are grey zones in this community as well Shit like Persona or Danganronpa puts people into inherently sexual situations even though by technicality they are teenagers Or shit like Susie from Deltarune who is technically a minor but is also a fucking dinosaur I saw someone say Tails is a child but that fucking faggot fox does not act or sound or LOOK like a child There is obvious grey zones in this community but for antis and some people in this fucking community there are only extremes So you’ll have people hunt you down because a character is only 16 but has several sexual moments in their canon appearance and you just sit there like “excuse me for thinking horny thoughts” Meanwhile you’ll have some lolifags screenshotting an artist drawing someone in that grey area and go “HAH! SEE? You’re just as degenerate as me jerking it to Anya from Spy X Family” like no you fucking retard that’s not the same. Also as a side note I think some characters in the grey zone also belong there when they have a childhood crush kinda vibe. Like if you commission art of Gwen because you were 12 and thought she was hot, yeah dude I get it. That’s how the human brain works. It’s not like you just switch your fucking flesh ball in your head out for a new one the moment you turn 18. Calling people pedos for that is weird because unless you actually touch a kid, I don’t think you deserve to be shunned (though I also think it’s fine if someone is uncomfortable with that topic). But lolifags also need to stfu and stop pretending that what theyre jerking off to isnt weird. In some sense this is just both sides attacking each other with a “holier than thou” attitude even though we are all perverted losers that enjoy tickling people we find attractive and that’s inherently retarded

>>90039 >Meanwhile you’ll have some lolifags screenshotting an artist drawing someone in that grey area and go “HAH! SEE? You’re just as degenerate as me jerking it to Anya from Spy X Family” like no you fucking retard that’s not the same. If you have to go to a wiki page and "prove" a character is underaged, it's much different than when they draw literal toddlers

>>90039 >But lolifags also need to stfu and stop pretending that what theyre jerking off to isnt weird. In some sense this is just both sides attacking each other with a “holier than thou” attitude even though we are all perverted losers the thread wasn't made to say that, that's the thing. i can't speak for everyone but i personally mind my own business because i understand fully how it's weird, meanwhile antis do their best to get art they don't like taken down / publicly shame the creators they dislike and then openly brag about it to their followers, directly encouraging more of this online policing. weaponizing the holier than thou attitude to its full potential, against artists instead of dangerous individuals it's the exact same thing as the collective shout "controversy," no one is saying that mouthwashing with its themes is 100% normal content for all ages or that every gooner game on steam is incredibly important to preserve, gamers were just mad that some annoying mfs LARPing as morally superior feminists used underhanded tactics to get games taken down while ignoring actual threats to women and children, and even the slightest hint of playing devil's advocate for that kind of behavior makes you a useful idiot. in a nutshell, if you don't like what people are saying ITT, leave and definitely don't indirectly defend anti slacktivist scum. that's how the internet worked in the past.

>>89915 >kampferwolf oh ok so kron made this thread got it. I don't think anyone has ever interacted with kampfer besides you kron

>>90044 I am fairly certain that I’ve seen people bitch about kampfur and cub art in one of the previous hate threads. Besides I heard that kron apparently tried to get kampfur a job???

I'll care about the loli tickle shit when you stop actual trannies grooming actual children in our shit.

>>90044 >deepcreases >top of the list No one even batted an eye towards him until he blocked lance, lance talks about him to others a lot, and probably is the only one who I know ever has, so Sorcererlance made the thread.

>>90045 >I saw people complaining about kampfer in the hate thread yeah, that's kron. kron is known to samefag >kron tried to get him a job I've heard that too, he is dumb as hell. he did it as an olive branch but he got shat on obviously. >let's give my biggest enemy my dox so I can help him get a job so he likes me again :DDD >WTF YOU BETRAYED ME?!? a genius at work

>>90039 Nah, unironically pulling out the "But officer, I vibed with this minor!!!" argument is depraved reddit goon clown shit that's 1000 times worse than anything I've seen a lolifag say. Face the wall.

>>90032 >katara and luz kron....

It's always the same thing with these threads. I understand both sides of the issue. On one hand, the fact that I want cute lolis to get it is incomparable with pedophilia, because I do not have these same feelings towards real people, wether the law is in question or not. I like the big expressive eyes and mouth, the flat shading, the flat chest and size difference with the monster/tickler. The furry argument has already been put on the table a million times, and most people today know it's not zoophilia. ON THE OTHER HAND, there are people in this community that hide behind the anti moralfags being stupid to be actual pedophiles. I will not name anyone, but the moment your characters are based off of real people before there were adults, that's where you're just using loli as a shield to your bullshit. So yes, I think there's a gap between loli and pedo, and that's why there are different words for different things.

>>90056 Do you guys remember “Kimberco”? (Another for the list btw) he was an anti, and it got found out, (by this board!) that he actually was talking to irl underaged people. All because he kept making jabs at ICE of all things. I legit think it’s the only artist this board collectively killed

>>90057 I remember, point is, there are real pedos on both sides, and there are real normally adjusted people on both sides too.

so you're a pedo mad that people don't like pedos? and you had to come up with an autistic list of "anti

You are all niggers and faggots, just jerk off to whatever and shut up with the philosophical moral debates.

ah yes, average 8chan loli discussion pops up once a month starts for no reason has no real depth or sense leads nowhere in the end >>90062 im with this nigga right here

>another thread consumed by pearl clutchers and lolifags like fucking clockwork, at this point it should be every thread lmao.

>>90062 that was my point, if someone doesn't understand that only 1 side is the problem here than that's on them

>>90047 explain the sorcererlance/deepcreases beef it sounds hilarious

>>90129 DC blocked Lance and allegedly has been trying to harass him and reach out to his family with burners? Over Lance enjoying cub art. DC has also posted about lance before in the past, it was a shitfest. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was lance that started this thing, wouldn't blame him, I'd be sick of it.

>>90062 >>90069 It's just how terminally online people operate. Their entire personality is based around their kinks/hobbies, so any attack on those things is perceived as a direct insult to themselves. Therefore, they also actively need validation for these things people "attack" them for. They can't just shut up and enjoy something, that's not in their DNA. I guess the same goes for the so-called "antis." It's that tribal mindset. Lolifags are that rival tribe living across the river. They're close in proximity but they're not friends, therefore they're automatically an enemy. Logic doesn't apply here. Either let them throw shit at each other in their cancer containment threads, or stay along for the ride and laugh at them.

>>89915 What did Dogeosi do?

>>90176 Bitches about people drawing bluey and bingo while drawing characters from the show. Also gets really mad when people ship Bandit with anyone else besides Chilli. Also gets super autistic and upset when his stuff gets uploaded to e621

one was made in 2007 the other was made in 2025

>>90298 the actual fuck and i thought i sucked as an artist 18 years passed and dude is still in the same spot

>>90298 Reposting because I want to word this better. This is what almost 20 years of frying your brain on anti depressants, apathy, and an ideology of nihilism and victimhood complex does to you. I wouldn't even give a shit about his politics if it didn't bleed so vividly into everything and that goes for both sides of the political spectrum not just left or right. Like I said before on another thread: not the worst artist but certainly bitter as vinegar and so much self hatred that it bleeds unto everyone else. There's a reason he only has like the same 5 commissioners on the blue moon he opens them up. Btw the pic on the right if from '09. Notice how much more expressive it looks. Irkin, I know Lance occasionally pops on these threads and that leads me to believe you probably read them too: I don't hate you, most of us don't and are just looking for a reason to bitch. But it's very obvious that at some point, some time in your life, something happened. Something happened and it completely screwed you up bad, and you think frying your mind of SSRIs is the way to deal with it, it isn't. And surrounding yourself with an echo chamber of those who says it does doesn't help neither. You, as an artist have one job: entertain your fans. And yeah, sometimes you'll say and do things they don't agree with or times will be tough, or you'll be in staunch disagreement with them. It happens. You're human. And while you shouldn't still and submit to your audience at every turn, you can't keep letting the venom and discontent of your own life seep in like that. Reality check: you make tickle and now vore porn, we're not here to hear any political BS or rally around screeching a message because your life as a niche fetish artist didn't turn out how you wanted. We're here to fap. That's it. You can, by all means, express yourself. Fuck knows you do on Bluesky. But you can't keep making it your main focus. The venom, the anger, the depression, it has to stop sometime dude. You've driven off most of your audience by trying to pretend the Wanted series never happened and killed off other interests by canceling Journey's Edge. It's painfully obvious by the lack of variety in your OCs (literally everyone has the same feet) that they're just fap material with an occasional gender label slapped on to pander...and, that's okay. Not every OC has to be greatly written epic or insanely vivid. However, when you try to act like they are or refuse to actually do anything with them besides porn...then it's a bit of a Dobson situation, isn't it? Tl;Dr: please ffs stop being so bitter and whiny. It's killing what little of your fanbase remains, and don't force a smile on your face to the point where you're that dog meme in a burning building. Find a balance in your life and accept what it is. Only then can you find some peace.

>>90333 Wait seriously? He wrote himself getting cucked by one of his own OCs? That is a new level of pathetic.

>>90333 This is a great excerpt and all but shouldn't it have gone in the hating artist thread? I don't think irkingir is an anti