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Anti Advisement Thread Anonymous 08/25/2025 (Mon) 04:53:15 Id: 4e962b No. 89914
Anti: Those with the belief that fictional tastes can and do indicate something about your character. There's a strong belief with them that fiction affects reality, and a good deal of concern about "romanticizing" or "normalizing" certain things. Antis often believe it's okay to confront somebody about drawing/enjoying things that they don't approve of and ask them to stop, including harassment, shunning, callouts, etc; it's a pro-censorship stance. This thread serves a different purpose than the artist hate thread, as this will encompass all aspects of individuals in the sphere including writers, commissioners, frequent flyers, etc. The purpose of this thread is to provide advisement and warning on who you would possibly want to avoid, or tread eggshells around if you ever find yourself interacting with them, among other reasons, such as picking out an artist to commission, or trying to befriend someone in the community as a whole.
>>89914 The current compilation of known Antis in the community. Bear in mind the only thing in common these individuals have is that they will ostracize you for liking things that they do not. You are encouraged to add to this list. Deepcreases Quinstix Dogeoisie Moekaki Chaztheweazel Willowsbuggy LatinoSoles TueR2 Kinkynaut Ragmagbumples MocziMacza Homonculuslover spacepupsmiles Inkmintro Guppygiggles Happyragdoll AaronExE Bearfreak/Juju (Giselle and Vivian guy) Shiveringartist AnonBB Jeej/HypnoJJ Freakwithatag Compysteps CringeBinArgent Doctorbloxhams Kampferwolf WhereSmut 12Beast1212
>>89915 As long as I don't care or listen to those annoying bratty moralfags and avoid it at all costs, I just rather not to intervene people for their own tastes and move on as a foot and tickle artist who also don't like these topics for a valid reason. I cannot wait to see more artists added in these category so people can see their hypocrisies around them in the future
>>89916 Bonus: I actually have trust issues so much that I can only draw art to people I am close with
>>89915 thank you for your service, most of them suck anyway but the list is still quite helpful
>>89915 Additional names with substantial information to indicate they are antis either from accounts or recounted personal experiences from others. Kingpepper Mrmellow Girlywolfpup Ivenakaloser/LonLikesTickles Zeenypawz CASTLESCORCHER Pureheartbat Laughter-lust ronpompxm aviafoil Thefellazone/aimkid (yes he’s regrettably one of us)
Ofc why there's more than that lol Most of them are antis
I haven’t heard of half of these u guys r taking this a bit too serious i think
>>89930 Anon, I understand about this This thread is only for people who look to the tickle artists that act as "antis" with caution advisory That's all I could say.
>>89931 I looked up like 3 names and they weren’t artists
>>89932 Oh, I didn't see that! Sorry about that kek..
>>89932 Hence why it’s not in the hating artist thread. These are people who are also writers, commissioners, etc
>>89934 Ah I get it so far Thanks for that
>>89914 >>89915 >>89927 I'm not a fan of joining vaguely explained boycotts and blacklists without thinking. If you want this to be a "customer beware"-type thread, then I fully support that, but you'd have to actually give us reasons why you're against these people, even if it's just an anecdotal review of a single bad experience you've had. Something like "tried to commission something from this person, but they delivered late and half-assed it, etc."
>>89936 I think it's more of an awareness for artists and a "lurkers" about these moralfag antis so they make sure they don't fell for their beliefs and unwanted attacks especially befriending or commissioning them tbh
While I am against moralfags...I gotta be honest I know like 3 of those artists in total lmfao..either way keep up the fight lads. Even if most of those guys are losers who barely have a following.
>>89941 Start a revolution and hoping theres peace for now
>>89915 90% of them are furfags, no surprise there
>>89936 I agree with this sentiment, but I see why this thread exists, and I agree with the nature of the thread. These kinds of people have, in my opinion, have done irreparable harm to the community. Notice how OP, doesn’t really attack them, as others have said, it’s more of an awareness thing. Understanding that these are people that you probably need to keep below the belt around, whether that means thinking twice about commissioning them (they would have your irl info, PayPal doxing) or being careful if you somehow found yourself interacting with them. I think it’s a rather fantastic idea.
>>89953 On the subject of PayPal doxing, I shit you not, somebody on the list, attempted to commission me, which I thought was weird because I openly draw loli, and this guy bitches about it every other day. So I was very weary about it, as in a “why would he want to commission me of all people” There’s another artist friend I have who’s more open and doesn’t care that much about opsec who offered to take the payment from him on my behalf. Once I told the “commissioner” of the address he’d be sending money too, he completely dropped communication with me. He absolutely was trying to datamine me for my PayPal so he could dox me.
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>>89962 "Peace" with these people is neither possible nor is it desirable. The last decade should conclusively demonstrate why not one inch of online freedom should be given. Also stop deleting my posts tranny jannies
>>89914 they invented a dedicated ideology name for being a moralfag?
>>89962 Name names cause if they're actively trying to fish for artist doxxes then I think that above all else needs to be clearly stated.
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>community gets sick of nonces and being lumped in with them >starts to expose their pedo shit >8chan responds by rallying le ebin internet justice brigade to defend the CP possessors and get the whistleblowers deplatformed I hate it here. I really do.
>>89974 >unironically bringing a zoomer reaction image to 8chan opinion goes straight in the trash
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>>89974 No, we're just sick of self-righteous moralfags calling people diddy ahh gooner blud ahh or whatever zoomer gibberish and harassing people over fucking drawings. if you think someone is a pedo and sharing CP in this community, report them to the center for missing and exploited children. https://report.cybertip.org/ Otherwise shut the fuck up and fuck off.
>>89974 Fucking retard faggot. Leaving aside the ridiculous premise that drawings are CP Or that tickling is "pornography" at all Or the idea that these images are harmful by themselves just by existing Or that the subjects are well above the age of consent in Europe and Asia (the only relevant functional societies) OR that they didn't consent anyway and aren't enjoying themselves? Why do you care. Mind your own damn business and let people like what they like. >all moralfags should be forced to watch their chiIdren being raped to death
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>>89978 i was with you all the way until i read the green text nigga chill out its just some internet spergs >>89974 aint nobody getting sick of people who like loli drawings in a mfing tickling community, yall moralfags are the minority
>>89978 >Or that tickling is "pornography" at all Do you jerk off to it or do you just look at it?
>>89990 you can jerk off to anything, doesn't necessarily make it porn I'm jerking off to your post right now. does that make you an e-whore?
>>89991 Kind of.
>>89991 Stroke your shit to whatever the fuck you want, but to pretend that drawing a loli getting tickled to insanity in the "lolibreaker 9000" isn't fetish pornography is to delude yourself. You're masturbating to depictions of children being put in a situation you consider sexual. If you people are gonna so adamantly defend your degeneracy, then own up to it instead of cowardly hiding behind semantics. Call a spade a fucking spade
>>89993 Watch as he brings out the >well ACKSHULLY i'm ace so it's not sexual I just like looking at very obvious fetish material involving minors cause i just do ok aka the "I have a bf I'm just on tinder to make friends" of this community
>>89994 I'm rock hard masturbating to your 8chan posts how am I asexual stop making up arguments in your head to fight with >>89992 I like you
>>89993 You hit the nail right on the head. Nobody on this site has ever said they liked lolis. And they certainly didn't go as far as to make an entire thread dedicated to it, that would be crazy.
>>89974 >I hate it here. Then LEAVE. >>89978 Antis are a minority in the community and need to start being gatekept. Deprive them of business, interaction and attention. No need to harass them or attack them, just stop acknowledging them in the broader community.
>>90011 No, just for that I'm staying to spite you.
>>89993 Hit the nail right on the coffin with this. Honestly I could not give less of a shit about what people are into as long as it's not being translated into real life degeneracy. But to say you like lolicon/shotacon content and try to be your own moralfag and say "oh nonono you see it's actually completely normal given that it's fictional" is such a nonsensical, roundabout way of trying to explain why you like it. I don't understand why lolicon lovers don't just own up to the fact that they are getting off to children fictional or otherwise being tickled. You don't get off to tickling art in general because it's purely fictional. It's a real life thing that people experience and that you have some sort of sexual connection with. You don't see people trying to justify that and they simply own up to it because it's their own fucking fetish. TLDR; I don't care if you like lolicon content, thats your business and no one else's. Just don't try to grandstand your position and say it's just like a normal tickling fetish. Just own up to the fact that little people getting tickled is hot to you and leave it at that
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>>90028 This tbh. >hey get a load of this Blarf guy and his martyr complex pretending he's some kind of oppressed victim because not everyone is into his weird, niche, off-putting fetish, what a freak amirite <yeah it's weird but loli/shota shit sicks me out just as much tbf >OMG PERSECUTION!!!!! MORALFAG!!!! WE ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED MINORITY LOLICONS RISE UP BOTTOM TEXT
>>90028 >>89993 I’d be willing to bet that the majority of people here aren’t so much as “into loli” as they think. The majority of people I’d honestly be willing to bet are more into characters that now technically “fall under that umbrella” I’m talking more teenaged looking characters, and I’ll be blunt. I fucking love stroking it to teenaged/jailbait/whatever you want to call it characters, and I have absolutely NO shame in it. A little over ten years ago it was more accepted even. Honestly, I would be inclined to understand where moralfags are coming from in the context of real legit lolisho. I’m going to agree with you guys, they are what they are, fictional depictions of little people. Me personally? Get off to what makes you go, but the moment you cross that line and commit a heinous crime, you should be locked up for sure. Also let’s not beat around the bush. It IS weird, I’m sorry, I’m not an Anti, but it is weird, and even normalfags will judge you for it. Then again normalfags will judge you for wanting to tickle feet in general. Honestly? I think most “grounded” lolicons understand this, they know it’s weird, so they keep to themselves. I think the big push back and anger against “Antis” has to do with the aforementioned Overton window shifting of “what characters are acceptable and what aren’t”, blame tumblr or Twitter, whatever you believe. 15 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to commission art of let’s say, Gwen 10, or katara from ATLA, or some random anime chick, but because a “wiki” says she’s 14 or whatever, some won’t do it and some even go as far as to harass you for it. Basically nowadays you see antis berating others for liking characters that really aren’t “technically” lolicon, atleast in my opinion. There’s a huge difference between Anya Forger, and Yoko Litner, and basically Antis are throwing people who may enjoy characters like Yoko, or Katara, or Luz Noceda into the same camp of people who enjoy literal toddlers. That’s where a lot of the divide is occurring nowadays, but hey that’s just how I see it.
>>90027 this thread made the antis mad. literally admitting that you started posting here out of spite lmao couldn't be any more transparent. >>89977 you made a good post and that is why the anti retard ignored it >>90032 i agree fully, these brands of moralfags are nothing but increasingly destructive slacktivists who take pride in it. they spend their time crusading against artwork instead of going after real criminals and child abusers. i guess they justify their slacktivism by imagining that they're on the front lines preventing people from becoming groomers? or they are so delusional that they believe porn is equivalent to irl tastes when unrealistic crap like vore exists, therefore someone like you is a real pedo. idk the solution is simply to appreciate 2D because 3D is the actual fucking crime, quite set in stone to me
I think my biggest gripe with this topic is that nobody wants to admit that there are grey zones in this community as well Shit like Persona or Danganronpa puts people into inherently sexual situations even though by technicality they are teenagers Or shit like Susie from Deltarune who is technically a minor but is also a fucking dinosaur I saw someone say Tails is a child but that fucking faggot fox does not act or sound or LOOK like a child There is obvious grey zones in this community but for antis and some people in this fucking community there are only extremes So you’ll have people hunt you down because a character is only 16 but has several sexual moments in their canon appearance and you just sit there like “excuse me for thinking horny thoughts” Meanwhile you’ll have some lolifags screenshotting an artist drawing someone in that grey area and go “HAH! SEE? You’re just as degenerate as me jerking it to Anya from Spy X Family” like no you fucking retard that’s not the same. Also as a side note I think some characters in the grey zone also belong there when they have a childhood crush kinda vibe. Like if you commission art of Gwen because you were 12 and thought she was hot, yeah dude I get it. That’s how the human brain works. It’s not like you just switch your fucking flesh ball in your head out for a new one the moment you turn 18. Calling people pedos for that is weird because unless you actually touch a kid, I don’t think you deserve to be shunned (though I also think it’s fine if someone is uncomfortable with that topic). But lolifags also need to stfu and stop pretending that what theyre jerking off to isnt weird. In some sense this is just both sides attacking each other with a “holier than thou” attitude even though we are all perverted losers that enjoy tickling people we find attractive and that’s inherently retarded
>>90039 >Meanwhile you’ll have some lolifags screenshotting an artist drawing someone in that grey area and go “HAH! SEE? You’re just as degenerate as me jerking it to Anya from Spy X Family” like no you fucking retard that’s not the same. If you have to go to a wiki page and "prove" a character is underaged, it's much different than when they draw literal toddlers
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>>90039 >But lolifags also need to stfu and stop pretending that what theyre jerking off to isnt weird. In some sense this is just both sides attacking each other with a “holier than thou” attitude even though we are all perverted losers the thread wasn't made to say that, that's the thing. i can't speak for everyone but i personally mind my own business because i understand fully how it's weird, meanwhile antis do their best to get art they don't like taken down / publicly shame the creators they dislike and then openly brag about it to their followers, directly encouraging more of this online policing. weaponizing the holier than thou attitude to its full potential, against artists instead of dangerous individuals it's the exact same thing as the collective shout "controversy," no one is saying that mouthwashing with its themes is 100% normal content for all ages or that every gooner game on steam is incredibly important to preserve, gamers were just mad that some annoying mfs LARPing as morally superior feminists used underhanded tactics to get games taken down while ignoring actual threats to women and children, and even the slightest hint of playing devil's advocate for that kind of behavior makes you a useful idiot. in a nutshell, if you don't like what people are saying ITT, leave and definitely don't indirectly defend anti slacktivist scum. that's how the internet worked in the past.
>>89915 >kampferwolf oh ok so kron made this thread got it. I don't think anyone has ever interacted with kampfer besides you kron
>>90044 I am fairly certain that I’ve seen people bitch about kampfur and cub art in one of the previous hate threads. Besides I heard that kron apparently tried to get kampfur a job???
I'll care about the loli tickle shit when you stop actual trannies grooming actual children in our shit.
>>90044 >deepcreases >top of the list No one even batted an eye towards him until he blocked lance, lance talks about him to others a lot, and probably is the only one who I know ever has, so Sorcererlance made the thread.
>>90045 >I saw people complaining about kampfer in the hate thread yeah, that's kron. kron is known to samefag >kron tried to get him a job I've heard that too, he is dumb as hell. he did it as an olive branch but he got shat on obviously. >let's give my biggest enemy my dox so I can help him get a job so he likes me again :DDD >WTF YOU BETRAYED ME?!? a genius at work
>>90039 Nah, unironically pulling out the "But officer, I vibed with this minor!!!" argument is depraved reddit goon clown shit that's 1000 times worse than anything I've seen a lolifag say. Face the wall.
>>90032 >katara and luz kron....
It's always the same thing with these threads. I understand both sides of the issue. On one hand, the fact that I want cute lolis to get it is incomparable with pedophilia, because I do not have these same feelings towards real people, wether the law is in question or not. I like the big expressive eyes and mouth, the flat shading, the flat chest and size difference with the monster/tickler. The furry argument has already been put on the table a million times, and most people today know it's not zoophilia. ON THE OTHER HAND, there are people in this community that hide behind the anti moralfags being stupid to be actual pedophiles. I will not name anyone, but the moment your characters are based off of real people before there were adults, that's where you're just using loli as a shield to your bullshit. So yes, I think there's a gap between loli and pedo, and that's why there are different words for different things.
>>90056 Do you guys remember “Kimberco”? (Another for the list btw) he was an anti, and it got found out, (by this board!) that he actually was talking to irl underaged people. All because he kept making jabs at ICE of all things. I legit think it’s the only artist this board collectively killed
>>90057 I remember, point is, there are real pedos on both sides, and there are real normally adjusted people on both sides too.
so you're a pedo mad that people don't like pedos? and you had to come up with an autistic list of "anti
You are all niggers and faggots, just jerk off to whatever and shut up with the philosophical moral debates.
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ah yes, average 8chan loli discussion pops up once a month starts for no reason has no real depth or sense leads nowhere in the end >>90062 im with this nigga right here
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>another thread consumed by pearl clutchers and lolifags like fucking clockwork, at this point it should be every thread lmao.
>>90062 that was my point, if someone doesn't understand that only 1 side is the problem here than that's on them
>>90047 explain the sorcererlance/deepcreases beef it sounds hilarious
>>90129 DC blocked Lance and allegedly has been trying to harass him and reach out to his family with burners? Over Lance enjoying cub art. DC has also posted about lance before in the past, it was a shitfest. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was lance that started this thing, wouldn't blame him, I'd be sick of it.
>>90062 >>90069 It's just how terminally online people operate. Their entire personality is based around their kinks/hobbies, so any attack on those things is perceived as a direct insult to themselves. Therefore, they also actively need validation for these things people "attack" them for. They can't just shut up and enjoy something, that's not in their DNA. I guess the same goes for the so-called "antis." It's that tribal mindset. Lolifags are that rival tribe living across the river. They're close in proximity but they're not friends, therefore they're automatically an enemy. Logic doesn't apply here. Either let them throw shit at each other in their cancer containment threads, or stay along for the ride and laugh at them.
>>89915 What did Dogeosi do?
>>90176 Bitches about people drawing bluey and bingo while drawing characters from the show. Also gets really mad when people ship Bandit with anyone else besides Chilli. Also gets super autistic and upset when his stuff gets uploaded to e621
one was made in 2007 the other was made in 2025
>>90298 the actual fuck and i thought i sucked as an artist 18 years passed and dude is still in the same spot
>>90298 Reposting because I want to word this better. This is what almost 20 years of frying your brain on anti depressants, apathy, and an ideology of nihilism and victimhood complex does to you. I wouldn't even give a shit about his politics if it didn't bleed so vividly into everything and that goes for both sides of the political spectrum not just left or right. Like I said before on another thread: not the worst artist but certainly bitter as vinegar and so much self hatred that it bleeds unto everyone else. There's a reason he only has like the same 5 commissioners on the blue moon he opens them up. Btw the pic on the right if from '09. Notice how much more expressive it looks. Irkin, I know Lance occasionally pops on these threads and that leads me to believe you probably read them too: I don't hate you, most of us don't and are just looking for a reason to bitch. But it's very obvious that at some point, some time in your life, something happened. Something happened and it completely screwed you up bad, and you think frying your mind of SSRIs is the way to deal with it, it isn't. And surrounding yourself with an echo chamber of those who says it does doesn't help neither. You, as an artist have one job: entertain your fans. And yeah, sometimes you'll say and do things they don't agree with or times will be tough, or you'll be in staunch disagreement with them. It happens. You're human. And while you shouldn't still and submit to your audience at every turn, you can't keep letting the venom and discontent of your own life seep in like that. Reality check: you make tickle and now vore porn, we're not here to hear any political BS or rally around screeching a message because your life as a niche fetish artist didn't turn out how you wanted. We're here to fap. That's it. You can, by all means, express yourself. Fuck knows you do on Bluesky. But you can't keep making it your main focus. The venom, the anger, the depression, it has to stop sometime dude. You've driven off most of your audience by trying to pretend the Wanted series never happened and killed off other interests by canceling Journey's Edge. It's painfully obvious by the lack of variety in your OCs (literally everyone has the same feet) that they're just fap material with an occasional gender label slapped on to pander...and, that's okay. Not every OC has to be greatly written epic or insanely vivid. However, when you try to act like they are or refuse to actually do anything with them besides porn...then it's a bit of a Dobson situation, isn't it? Tl;Dr: please ffs stop being so bitter and whiny. It's killing what little of your fanbase remains, and don't force a smile on your face to the point where you're that dog meme in a burning building. Find a balance in your life and accept what it is. Only then can you find some peace.
>>90333 Wait seriously? He wrote himself getting cucked by one of his own OCs? That is a new level of pathetic.
>>90333 This is a great excerpt and all but shouldn't it have gone in the hating artist thread? I don't think irkingir is an anti
>>89927 Can you add Jo-Amigo to this list??
>>90633 I mean *cough* Jo-Amingo to this list??
What ya'll think about those users that get upset when seeing a Tk art about someone's avatar? like the av of Jaidenanimations, Reb. Parhamm, and others i've seen some comments of them in those type of art Like this one
>>91202 I'd call them antis too, moralfaggotry is moralfaggotry. Rule 34, if it exists there's porn of it. If you don't want porn of it then don't take it public. Creator sonas are no different than cartoon characters in a western tv show or girls in an anime. They shouldn't get special treatment just because they're an "indivdual"
>>90030 >Blarf Who?
>>91203 This tbh. You're on the internet you're fair game. This also applies to any whiteknight faggots who think they can get up on their high horse because milady didn't coonsent to her likeness being used for the spank bank. (Simp snuff should be its own genre if it isn't already)
>>90057 Aw man that sucks. I loved their feet and hypno stuff.
>>90057 Nothing of value was lost that fucking troon wasted all his talents on some of the cringest art possible.
>>91510 The smell shit was cringe but he undeniably drew good feet.
So apparently artists have been getting their works on da reported and taken down due to the characters being underage (cuz we gotta protect our fictional characters), though it's inconsistent due to other works of minor characters being left alone. Apparently however, the one behind it was actually very kind to let us know it was them that's been reporting artists works, which i'll give the link to their post explaining it below. https://www.deviantart.com/12beast1212/art/Hi-I-m-the-one-that-s-reporting-your-child-porn-1232330327 Can't say if this is the only person doing this or if there're more of these shit-slurpers but since they were nice enough to let ppl know why their shit was getting removed it'd be cool if we could find a way to get this prick gone or at the very least make their life considerably more miserable if nothing else.
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Even fictional depictions of underage characters are against the DA TOS. You call these people moralfags yet here you are acting like the world's most persecuted minority cause you can't jack it to lolis around the clock. You still have 4chan, Pixiv and yes, Inkbunny for that shit. sage
Imagine being one of the people butthurt that someone is reporting art of characters that have been stated to be underage, drawing or not, real or not, in a fetish like setting. It really does say a lot about ones character when people get their panties in such a twist about it. Is the person wrong for having favorites of said characters, or having done art or whatever of said characters in the past? Absolutely. He's just as guilt as what he's shouting from the soapbox. Is him getting underage characters in fetish like setting taken down wrong? Absolutely not, and it's explicitly stated in DA and Patreon's TOS (yes even the dumbass 'oh btw i aged up this char' excuse is explicitly forbidden.) Have whatever stance you want, that the characters aren't real or whatever, I don't really care. If wherever they came from has officially said 'Hey bros, this character is like, 13' and you get upset that a huge majority of people are disgusted by seeing said character in a fetish setting and reporting it? Well. I think you need to take a close look at yourself and get help.
>>91855 DA ALWAYS had that rule. Where the fuck have you been?
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>>91858 >>91861 >Excuse me Xir, It would appear your image has violated the Deviantart™ TOS. If you think I'll stand for this animated high schooler being aged into major status, you've got another thing coming, buster! Rather than knead your brow in contumacious rebuke, consider how such an ardent defense reflects upon your character to your fellow Deviants™! >Now, if you wish to act in accordance with the ethos of our site, I can set you up with Midjourney so you may mass-produce a few hundred Samus Aran fetish pictures
Don't think there needed to be two threads on this but this does raise concerns Most all the beloved artists in the scene at large have drawn characters like the Pokémon girls, MHA cast, several One Piece girls who are "Canonically underage", and the list keeps going. If this dude wanted he can just go and get there pages nuked and in a fell swoop we lose Bill Vicious, BadPierrot, Klaudsan, etc. You can go on any tickle artist pages, find a character that meets this criteria and report it. You can even bullshit DA TOS on this for just about any character. Even if they have other platforms, DeviantArt is generally the biggest for growth in this field (love it or hate it) so when an artist loses there DA, it inevitably leads to them quitting when less people are discovering them to pledge to there Patreon or commission them. Pixiv is the next best thing and doesn't have looming threat of deplatforming but ask yourself how often are you discovering new artists on Pixiv compared to DA and how often do artists on DA Post on there DA in comparison to posting on Pixiv. Basically when beloved artists start losing presence and funding + new artists are too scared to start cause they fear the same thing will happen to them, then do not complain when we enter a content drought. This is also such a faggot thing to do in general. It's one thing to think characters like say: Momo Yaoyorozu, with tits bigger then her head, getting her feet brushed till she cries and her belly licked till its red, is on the same level of loli porn, (I think if you see an anime character indistinguishable from the ones that are "canon adults" and think that's a child, that's on you). Going on a crusade to take advantage of a relatively new DA rule (Implemented in its current state about 2 or 3 years ago) to do this bullshit is also a shit thing to do (but that's ultimately on DeviantArt as a whole). But the fact that they feel confident enough to brag about it is where I think they have to be run off the platform too. People who do that don't stop at what they're doing now, they will eventually be embolden to twist and exploit DA TOS to bend to there morals and eventually do the same on other platforms. They will eventually go after content you like and artists you like. If not nipped in the bud now they become a bigger problem later on so they should be scared off. But the true reality is no one can be assed to stop people like this and its a hard to win battle. You can fuck this guy in particular but more competent people who have the same beliefs and will do the same bullshit while remaining anonymous can not be stopped. DeviantArt is ultimately a sinking ship. Rule of thumb is always archive tickle content cause there's never enough to satisfy and niche fetish porn is always on the verge of deletion. If there's one thing I've concluded, it's that tickle fags need there own dedicated website to archive tickle content and encourage the creation of new stuff. Something that hosts Art, Videos, Literature and so on. Something where you can search for every work of a producer/artist, sort by franchise, character, year, What spots are targeted or even what spots are in focus, If its F/F, F/M, M/F. So On. Might do a full pitch another day but this is all I really have to say on this
>>91867 Gosh, it's almost as if they could simply draw characters that are of age, new rule or not, to not get dinged by the site they're usings TOS. It's not really not that complicated. There are plenty of characters that can be drawn that don't break TOS, and yes, other sites they can use if they so choose to do the underage ones. It does not matter how new the rule is. It is their site, that is their rules. That's the end of it. Also there are plenty of people who aren't as vocal as the person OP pointed out who DON'T like the underage art and will simply report it. That isn't a new concept. It isn't even about morals. People see a character is a fetish setting that's canonically underage and don't like it. That's common. There isn't a battle here, not really. It's DA's TOS, and even if this person was vocal about it, DA could, tomorrow, launch a perfect bot that perfectly adheres to their TOS somehow and utterly nukes any underage art. That's it at the end of the day. This dude being vocal about it means absolutely nothing at the end of the day because DA could simply delete whatever they want that breaks their TOS. >Momo Yaoyorozu, with tits bigger then her head, getting her feet brushed till she cries and her belly licked till its red, is on the same level of loli porn, Bro, stop right there. It's a tickle fetish. People get off on it. It's porn. No matter how you dress it. It's porn to people with the fetish. Just because they're not being fucked doesn't make it any less porn. TLDR: It's DA's platform, and technically the dude OP got so butthurt about that he created two thread technically isn't doing anything wrong. He might be an asshole hypocrite due to his past art and favorites, but ignoring that for a moment and pretending he's just some dude? The dude is literally just adhering to DA's TOS. You can hate DA's TOS all you want, but it's their site. Not yours. Don't like it? Go somewhere else, and that includes artists. As I said, there are PLENTY of characters to draw that don't break TOS and artists are doing just fine sticking to that as far as what they post on DA.
>>91867 Also, I just want to point out I don't fully disagree with you even if I came off somewhat hostile. There does need to be a better site for artists that draw tickling art to go. Suggesting DA isn't already a trash site is a stretch with all of the actual dogshit AI art that doesn't even ATTEMPT to look good being posted. Searching for 'tickling' via search is pretty much something that can't be done anymore, and most artists that actually draw can't really be found that way anymore and have to promote elsewhere, or via word of mouth from people.
>>91867 You can always post the censored pic on DA and host the real one elsewhere, if anything that's probably what most artists WILL end up doing (less short term engagement but more Patreon posts, at least until Patreon bows to payment processor demands, though most JP manga has held strong) I agree that it's kind of retarded when your average anime "highschooler" is written/drawn as a 20-something despite being "canonically" under 18, but it seems like OP is just bitching about 18+ being too old for him which raises major red flags >>91866 >waah waah i have to actually obey the terms of a site i use Literally fucking rope you retard gorilla nigger
>>91870 >I agree that it's kind of retarded when your average anime "highschooler" is written/drawn as a 20-something despite being "canonically" under 18, but it seems like OP is just bitching about 18+ being too old for him which raises major red flags This too. Like I get it, a lot of anime characters look like they should be adults but official canon is like 'Lol no, this huge titted chick is actually like 12 and still in school' is kinda fuckin' retarded. But seriously, it always astounds me how many people stand up on some sort of soapbox and loudly proclaim 'Suppress tickle porn of MY favorite 12 year old?! I think the fuck not! Let me write a fucking essay on why YOU'RE wrong for saying why it's weird I like that!' Like seriously, hostility aside, can someone explain it to me beyond the braindead excuse 'they're just drawings bro' because, I dunno, personally? I wouldn't be caught dead screaming that from the hilltops without thinking I look like a fucking weirdo.
>>91871 I think that's the answer, they're such braindead gooners they think it's unfathomable nobody shares their fetish for jacking it to 2d highschoolers when most people think wanking to cartoons is pretty cringe in the first place
Fuck antis and moralfags, keep the fetish weird, remember to gatekeep, Loli tickling is based
>>91872 I mean, fair point there, too. >>91873 Why is it about anti and moralfagging? Where is the line? There is that one 'arist', gopher or something, who literally models underaged characters getting not only tickled, but pretty much raped. Seriously, where is the line? Where does it stop being morally disgusting and start being acceptable? I am genuinely asking for a non hostile take.
>>91868 >It does not matter how new the rule is. It is their site, that is their rules. That's the end of it. It matters when the sites rule is new cause look where tumblr ended up. Shit like that better be sorted at the sites inception unless theres a damn good reason to do it now. If DA's rules have always been like this and its just now they've decided to start enforcing it then yes, any artist posting canonically underage characters is paying the piper. That said I don't think that it was just enforcing things but rather broadening the definition so stuff that was fine before is not anymore. >Bro, stop right there. It's a tickle fetish. People get off on it. It's porn. No matter how you dress it. It's porn to people with the fetish. Just because they're not being fucked doesn't make it any less porn Yeah I don't know where you got me saying its not porn from. I'm saying that a character that looks like an adult is on a different playing field from a character who looks like a child. Its a case by case basis where there's a lot of shit I think was drawn by a pedophile, for pedophiles, but a majority of what OP's arch enemy is trying to claim as falling under that? Absolutely not. If you see a average height anime chick with regular sized tits and are not sure whether its a child or not you might just be an actual pedophile. >>91871 >Like seriously, hostility aside, can someone explain it to me beyond the braindead excuse 'they're just drawings bro' because, I dunno, personally? I wouldn't be caught dead screaming that from the hilltops without thinking I look like a fucking weirdo. You said it yourself, a lot of anime characters look like they should be adults. If they look the same as characters that're adults then there is literally no difference and no issue unless you try to change the context so that they aren't adults. >>91872 What are you talking about. Look at every other thread on this board. You have a tickle fetish and you are on 8CHAN of all places to discuss the ethics and broader community of it. You don't get to complain about braindead gooning. >>91874 >Seriously, where is the line? Where does it stop being morally disgusting and start being acceptable? Up to the individual. If you think a drawn character looks like an adult then it probably is one. If you think its not, respond in whatever way you like but be prepared to deal with people who will argue otherwise. Also don't go on 8chan expecting non hostile responses. I'm personally not trying to be hostile but I'm just putting what I have as bluntly as I can. talk however you like but I would not expect anything from anyone. We are here to post tickling media but theres not as much these days so now we just call each other faggots.
>>91874 As long as the depiction isn't modeled or a depiction of a real child it's fair game.
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>>91870 >Literally fucking rope you retard gorilla nigger No. I will willfully flaunt the TOS of every site I participate in if it infringes upon what I want to post at that moment, and shall hold no reverence for the creeds of Jannies and indeed shall whine in a public and incorrigible fashion upon receiving consequences I was warned about: forever.
>>91875 Either way, a fair response. Also, no, I am saying mostly I wouldn't meet an opinion with hostility as, as you put it, I remembered where I was posting and I'm personally choosing to not be hostile anymore. >It matters when the sites rule is new cause look where tumblr ended up. Shit like that better be sorted at the sites inception unless theres a damn good reason to do it now. If DA's rules have always been like this and its just now they've decided to start enforcing it then yes, any artist posting canonically underage characters is paying the piper. That said I don't think that it was just enforcing things but rather broadening the definition so stuff that was fine before is not anymore. Again fair point. Also Tumblr outright banned porn altogether, did they not? I don't recall if DA did. That was because Tumblr got bought by...yahoo? I don't remember. It's been forever since I looked at that site. Regardless, technically my point still stands. 'New' rule or not, there was always some sort of 'underage' rule and the rule 'you cannot just 'age up' your characters.' Or something like that. At the end of the day it's their site, and if it causes the ship to sink, that's really on them, is it not? If the sites mods don't like it, that isn't up to us to say 'You shouldn't do that, we're going to take a stand against you'. Again, like I said, DA is pretty trash to begin with anymore. >Yeah I don't know where you got me saying its not porn from I misunderstood you then, I apologize. >You said it yourself, a lot of anime characters look like they should be adults. If they look the same as characters that're adults then there is literally no difference and no issue unless you try to change the context so that they aren't adults. >Up to the individual. If you think a drawn character looks like an adult then it probably is one. If you think its not, respond in whatever way you like but be prepared to deal with people who will argue otherwise. I have to disagree with you here simply on the premise of what I've already said. Looks aside, plenty of official canon, or the character themselves state they're under 18. That's where my brain goes 'Yea okay I'm not looking at you like that, then' and sure, that's just my perspective. But the point is you can't just pretend they're an adult because they look like one while the character themselves say 'I'm 15'. But, again, it's a moot point because they shouldn't be drawn to look so mature in the first place. Either way, I'm not directly debating you as much as I'm just stating my opinion. I used gopher as an example but I've seen plenty of other art that depicts underaged characters in similar ways and I personally find it disgusting. I think at the end of the day my whole thing is...Why do people loudly proclaim so hard they like underage characters? Like, see above 'loli tickling is based'. I just find it personally really fucking weird to say, with your chest, 'I like seeing characters that look like kids/are underaged in sexual settings' That's all. >>91876 Okay but I've seen plenty of models or drawing of underage characters where they DO look like children. Granted, again, they're not real people, that's still weird as hell to me. So what you're saying is that if an artist draws a realistic looking child in a fetish based setting, it's okay? If that child isn't real? Even if the picture looks like someone that exists but they don't? Again, that's why I'm asking, where's the line?
>>91874 It's hard to say objectively since feelings of discomfort are inherently subjective, that said, it's indefensible once it's a depiction of a rl minor (such as Maria or M3gan as we've seen lately in a disturbing recent trend). Otherwise you get mired in the "porn is inherently harmful to society" argument. It does inarguably present a problem when someone's so dopamine-fried from porn overexposure they no longer find even fictional depictions of adults attractive. >>91875 I can argue what I want where I want. This may shock you but not everyone here is a socially retarded autistic porn addict. Some of us just do this for fun like watching movies or sportsball, playing vidya or any number of other hobbies. Hell a number of big name content creators have wives and children because it's just another job to them. >>91877 On the grounds that you hold a huge emotional production about your inevitable banning and make it clear it's an act of total unfounded persecution against you, personally, for absolutely no reason at all. Also, you must be equally intractable with anyone else that it happens to that in their case it was entirely their own fault and they're stupid and deserved it.
>>91887 Get what you're saying. I dunno, either way people like what they like. I'm not so blinded that I'm suddenly going to say 'Oh, so you jerked your dick raw to Anya Forger tickle porn? Fuckin pedo' But I am still gonna find it fucking weird, since she clearly looks like a child. As do a lot of characters people often get vocally hostile about when called out for it. Either way, I'm just saying my opinion at the end of the day, no more, no less.
>>91888 I mean she's clearly *depicted as a child.* You wouldn't be in the wrong if you did. Still, that's not the issue to me, the issue is if there really are people who *can't* get interested in erotic content involving consenting adults of age, for reasons I hope are obvious.
>>91889 No I understood what you meant. As I mentioned before when someone mentioned that artists might suffer due to DA's rules I pointed out that there are still plenty of 'of age' characters to draw, and these days, most artists stick to that on DA. The people I see complaining the most are the ones miffed that their request got refused, or artists who draw nothing BUT underage characters. Plenty of artists who once had drawn underage characters, and are popular artists, still do work on DA and don't need to draw the underage ones. So saying they will suffer is a bit much. Also, again, they can use pixiv for the underage characters that aren't literal children, and post some preview, as a person said. But, yea, usually it seems the people screaming about this are the ones ignoring that oodles of other tickle content exists of characters that aren't underage...Which, yea, kind of a red flag.
>>91890 I don't care about "of age" characters or if "she is or is depicted as a child" it's all Pearl clutching and they aren't real. If it's cute I fap to it I have real world problems to worry about, and I truly beleive artists, especially bigger artists need to start bullying antis.
>>91891 You have real world problems to worry about and your biggest concern is having enough loli hentai to wank to? Nigga go outside smh
>>91891 Good luck with that, as they'd be bullying against the majority. Believe what you want but the fact is a lot of people don't like underage depictions. Real or not. It would be artist suicide to take a 'bullying' stance against people that speak out about disliking underage art. Taking ANY sort of stance is pretty much artist suicide, actually. The second an artist opens their mouth with an opinion, they lose customers. I will not be so bold to say people that like the underage work are the minority or the majority, but you would have to be pretty braindead to think it's a good idea for an artist to say "Fuck you guys, I'll draw those underage characters if I want too!" That's just asking for fucking hate.
All these fucking retarded cucked zoomer faggots man. Why the fuck are you guys asking these so-called antis for permission to fap to or draw something? >NOOOOO!!!! Stop reporting me and calling me mean things for fapping to loli!!! I'll debate you! Please, I'm begging for your validation! Oh my god. Just shut the fuck up and draw it. Or don't, if you really do agree that these retarded moralfags own you. People getting mad at you for drawing something is objectively a good thing. Unless you're looking to kiss everyone's ass, then have fun with surrounding yourself with fake people who pretend to be your friends. And if they report you? Well it's not worth being on a platform where they have any leverage over you when there's so many other options. But also, brigading the moralfags is fair game because they're literally coming out and asking for it. Or you could just continue to be a people pleaser, I'm sure these "antis" are completely reasonable people who only need a little persuasion before they realize 2D arrays of pixels don't actually have souls.
>>91878 >'New' rule or not, there was always some sort of 'underage' rule and the rule 'you cannot just 'age up' your characters.' I think aging up was allowed for a while and the change on that is what really pissed people off. If you say somethings fine for decades and go back on it then yeah fuck that. >Why do people loudly proclaim so hard they like underage characters? Like, see above 'loli tickling is based'. Anyone loudly proclaiming the character being underage as a selling point is definitely a predator, there's not really any if ands or buts about that >Again, that's why I'm asking, where's the line? The absolute indisputable line is when its based off real children cause that's just straight up CP and illegal But I think next in line is everything directly labelled as loli cause everyone knows that shit is always supposed to look like kids. If you actively go searching for stuff advertised as loli I think your a nonce. That said i guess its too gray of an area to be illegal so the best possible thing to do is let them have there own containment chambers cause picking a fight with them is usually a losing battle. After that almost everything else is pretty much fair game unless I'm forgetting something. You can draw your own lines but trying to push said lines on other people is hardly a battle worth fighting >But the point is you can't just pretend they're an adult because they look like one while the character themselves say 'I'm 15'. You literally can and if you can't that's on you. For one you're operating on the assumption people are gonna know and care about the canon age of every character and even know who the characters are to begin with. Even if they do then like you say, its a moot point if the character looks like an adult. There's several prominent characters who look identical when depicted as 16 and 18. Are you gonna see the character as 16 cause that's what they started as or are you gonna see them as 18 cause they eventually become that and look the same? It's why its a dumb argument. If someone draws a character that looks like an adult in a sexual situation and you view said character as an adult that's the end of story, source material is entirely irrelevant. If it is to you and there's an image you can't shake you're entitled to that but don't expect everyone to feel the same way. That's my general stance at least. There's plenty of other characters to jack off too yeah and people are gonna draw whatever they want elsewhere so I guess its not a huge loss if DA cracks down on it. It's also not like anyone (At least I hope not) is specifically going out looking for these characters because of there canon age. It just shortens the coom pool and when you start draining the pool for a flawed, even outright retarded, reason people are gonna be mad. >>91887 I don't know man I think if you're on 8Chan to satisfy your tickle fetish that's bare minimum a mild porn addiction considering this is a niche place that you're only gonna find if you ran out of material elsewhere and absolutely NEED to keep getting the fix. You can either be a coomer or be a coomer in denial. And maybe you're not always a porn addict but the moment you're on 8chan you are absolutely are one for every waking second you use this site. Nothing wrong with gooning but its definitely assholic to hold some sort of high horse while you do it.
>>91907 All fair points, honestly. I ain't about to sit here and go on some crusade. As I said before, I'm simply sharing my opinion on where I stand. Again, you made a fair point with the fact some characters look exactly the same at 16 when they're 18. Not even gonna deny that. Still, there are some people get up in arms about that literally DO look underage, and artists don't change that look. So, again, it's a weird stance at the end of the day. Regardless, I give a wide birth to literally anyone that says 'loli is okay and based' Y'all are fucking weird and need to be on a list if you're proclaiming you like art that looks like kids. But again, that's my opinion. Thanks for all the takes.
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Goody, this thread again. How many of you honestly see the number 18 and it kills your boner on the spot?
>>91927 >I'm into lewd art of -fictional- minor character so this clearly means I hate any and every lewd art of -fictional- adult characters and will not get turned on by it at all cuz adults are fucking disgusting and gross did I get your thought process right?
>>91927 Its not even about that, its the fact that people clutch pearls over something that doesn't exist, has no rights, and doesnt require "consent". I literally do not give two flying fucks if the character isn't the silly acceptable Western number. I actively take joy in pissing people off who care deeply about that stuff, I make fun of them because they cannot seperate fiction and reality. This never used to be a problem until Antis started trying to dictate everything and raise a fuss, now you're seeing push back. Proship/lolicon takes literally get hundreds of thousands of likes on twitter, I take it that means those hundreds of thousands of people are going to go out and prey on IRL kids
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>>91929 You're being (needlessly) sarcastic but this is the fourth or fifth identical thread that OP has made on that exact topic, that legal age = hag and he can't get into anything but pre-tẹens. This is not even counting the actual 🍕 posts, or the degenerates kvetching about age of consent or discussing sex tourism in SEA wanting to bang 12 year olds.
>>91952 Nigga that has nothing to do with this thread, or the thread that was created before mods merged it into this one.
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>>91953 The topic of both threads was OP having a melty because he doesn't think enough artists portrayed children in sexual situations. Weak af gaslighting attempt. >next is "ok it happened but it was a good thing"
>>91959 I'm not a moralfag by any means but I'm not falling for this psyop
>>91960 You cross a line when you think it's okay to sexualize the real deal, the utmost majority of lolifags in the TK sphere know this. Additionally you can usually tell who is actually sick in the head by their subtlety and context of what they say and do. Thats another point I've failed to see people make. Back then people had critical thinking skills and were able to differentiate an artist who happened to draw loli charafters, and an artist who only gravitated to those types of characters ONLY and acted weird about it.
>>91961 Take that Barney guy for instance. Purpledino100 i think his name was. The ONLY thing he would draw was like Dora the explorer and little einstiens, nothing else, it was so easy to tell that he was a legit pedophile. Low and behold he actually got in trouble for being a predator and arrested. The answer to this argument is understanding and knowing how to legitimately detect a wierdo. >sorry for triple posting.
>>91961 >>91962 Half-true. It's not about characters that ARE children, it's about characters that are FOR children. Like in the purpledino case, no grown adult with a healthy brain is going to get anything from watching something as dumbed down as Dora the explorer. Vs. your typical anime loli which comes from media that's aimed at young adults. Logically, a groomer is going to go for something that has actual real kids involved with it, as opposed to simply being interested in a certain genre that they're already the target demographic of. There are exceptions to both obviously, but there's a clear reason why one is more common than the other.
>>91971 Nah fam I'm pretty sure it's bad when someone can't get their dick up unless they're looking at pornographic material of (even a fictional character, who at some point is more than likely based on a real person) a subject too young to drive or go to R-rated movies alone. Can we kill these shit threads already the "lolicons are the most persecuted minority" fags (all 3 of them) are becoming as insufferable as furries.
>>91971 Honestly.... That's actually a really good point. Never thought of it like that.
>>91971 Like minecraft and roblox fags then
>>91984 Yes groomers are like groomers
The problem with the "fictional character" defense is that even a fictional character (assuming they're not based on someone real, as they often are) is designed to induce an emotional reaction in the audience. For a hero that's sympathy, for a villain that's hate. And for a loli - for the purposes of this post - that's arousal. You're talking about a purely fanservice character that is a child, someone with the literal appearance and physiognomy of a child, often spelled out as being a child/middle schooler/etc. One way or another the purpose of the loli is "give someone a boner from the thought of a Democrat supporting in a sexual situation" (yes, the tickling fetish is sexual, nobody's buying the "ace" line anymore than anyone watches porn for the story or acting). It should be pretty obvious why this is a non-starter for most artists. Even if there's no measurable real world harm there's an undeniable ick factor for most content creators, and consumers for that matter.


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