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Anonymous 04/23/2025 (Wed) 20:09:13 No. 769
Just finished this show today. Never watched it before. Here's something interesting I picked up on. The psychiatrist is the audience stand-in. Like us, she can only watch Tony, she can never be part of it. That is why they never hook up, that is why she never says anything about the rape. A TV character cannot affect your life, that is why her world and his world never really connect. When her psychiatrist sees him in the car garage, he describes the person as a worker/handyman (despite Tony being dressed in a nice overcoat at the time), it is because she imagined he saw Tony. We always see two perspectives in the show. Her perspective and Tony's perspective. Tony is an unreliable narrator, we see that in the way he lies to everyone around him with ease. That is why we are sucked into his world, because that's what crafty and adept sociopaths do. Despite all the violence you see, you still root for him. In the penultimate episode the psychiatrist shuts him out, we no longer have her perspective. The last episode opens up with him waking up, we are now seeing his perspective only. Everything is great, optimistic. He puts on "Don't Stop Believing", he finally lets his guard down, he finally thinks he can stop to smell the roses and enjoy "normalcy". He isn't aware that his paranoia and mistrust and scheming is what made him survive that long. In one of the first meetings with the psychologist he says he doesn't like the Machiavellian stuff, but that's a lie. He's Machiavellian as fuck. A guy we've never seen before obviously cases Tony out. Tony even notices him, several times, but he decides not to worry. He thinks he has won. Bam. Black. Who sent the guy to kill him? PAULIE. To understand why Paulie killed Tony, we must understand who Tony is. Tony is the Devil, or the Devil's incarnation on Earth. He is evil. He lies and he corrupts. When he found out that Bobby never killed a person, he orchestrates the fight and loses on purpose so that Bobby will feel obliged to do it when the opportunity comes up. Tony jumps on the opportunity to offer to kill some random dude who wants custody of his child (innocent victim). He is the purveyor of sin: alcohol, gluttony, greed, lust, gambling, murder. That's where he thrives, where he feels the most at home. Who is Paulie? He's an instrument of God's justice. It is undeniable that God and the Catholic Church is a huge element in the show. Paulie kills, but he doesn't kill innocents. When they're chasing the Russian, we are made to think that it could have been the Russian who stole the car and there's a danger of revenge against Paulie, but that doesn't happen, because Paulie only kills people who deserve to die. He saw the virgin mary in the strip club, Tony laughs this off. When Paulie sees the cat he wants to get rid of it, which is his superstitious belief that they are evil. Tony says "he's a good guy". There's a myth that Catholic Church declared cats friends of Satan or something, but since Paulie complains about the cat, they are clearly referencing the myth. Paulie says the cat keeps looking at Christopher's picture. Even when he moved it he said the cat went over to the new spot. The cat indicates in one way or another that Tony killed Christopher. Paulie has a visible epiphany in the last episode in front of the pork store. He realises that everyone is dead because of Tony, that he is the source of evil and bad luck. Tony even says how after Christopher has been gone that his luck did a 180. Paulie realises that Tony is a demonic presence, he feeds off death. When people die, Tony does well. Paulie then decides to kill him. Throughout the show, the only person we see going "outside of the family" on his own (and not to the FBI) is Paulie. Paulie is the only one who could hire an outsider and not have it go back to him. We see a pattern in the show that when someone orders a hit it always comes back to them. Not Paulie though. Tony suspected Paulie of telling Johnny Sacks about Ralph's joke, but Paulie successfully evades the accusation. The only one who could order such a hit and not have it come back to him is Paulie.
>>769 cool effortpost anon. >He thinks he has won. Bam. Black. Who sent the guy to kill him? PAULIE. What do you mean? You mean the series ending scene with Tony and his family at a diner? I don't recall there ever being a "BAM".
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>>899 knoxville is that you
>>899 >I don't recall there ever being a "BAM". I meant more it happened to him suddenly, The guy came out of the bathroom and shot him in the back of the head from close range. Tony doesn't hear the gunshot because bullets travel faster than sound.
>>769 butch (NY in general) patsy paulie and maybe gene's wife
I like the first half but the Paulie thing doesn't follow or is just a red herring. I think Melfi leaving is what causes Tony's death: His panic attacks. Misdirection is essentially the name of the game in Sopranos. You're expecting a Mafia shootout in the finale but that plotting is resolved at the start of the episode. The rest of the episode is family drama involving AJ leaving the nest. Meadow leaving started his panic attacks and AJ leaving finished them.
>>769 Nah.
>>769 Why do you look up to psychopathic murderers? Do you think of yourself as some guardian of your village?
>>1028 >the Paulie thing doesn't follow or is just a red herring When Tony tells Paulie that his luck did a 180 after Christopher's death and with the cat looking at the photo Paulie realises that Tony is not loyal to family (real or business) or friends. He realises that Tony was never his friend, that Tony just uses people. Paulie concludes that it is only a matter of time before Tony gets rid of him. Tony offers him the construction gig and Paulie rejects it, noticing that everyone who ever had it got killed or died. >I think Melfi leaving is what causes Tony's death: His panic attacks. Melfi tells him to leave for good because she realises the same thing Paulie realised. The same thing Christopher realised. Tony doesn't hate Christopher because he presented him in a bad way in Cleaver, he hates Christopher because Christopher figured him out and exposed him in front of everyone. Anyone who figures out what Tony is is in danger. You can see the realisation on Paulie's face in the last episode when Tony leaves the table in front of the pork store. Paulie is old school, he's actually loyal to family, his real one and his business one. He abandons his adopted mother because he feels betrayed by his mother. But he still ensures that she can continue living in the same place by beating up the guy who inherited and sold the junkyard. Tony killed his cousin (to make more money), he killed Christopher and started making money, Tony feeds on death. With everyone gone, Paulie was next.
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>>769 Look at this crappy turnout. You know, if moot was still acting boss, with an imageboard passed away? This thread would be filled to the rafters. Meme posts up and down the block. No matter what the jannies had done. Now...
>>769 >Paulie kills, but he doesn't kill innocents Paulie murders the waiter after Chrissy hits him with a brick.
>>1121 Paulie also murders that malignant cunt Minnie Matrone after Silvio says his envelopes are light
Paulie did kill Tony. >the secret handshake with Angelo at the New York meeting in the freezer >tonys dream where Paulie kills him >Paulie turned down the promotion to captain when offered >Paulie already in bed with New York >tonys comments about Bobby after he got shot in the eye by the niglets “there’s no honor, it was just a maneuver” or whatever it was >tony initially wanting to keep Vito because he was a good earner >Tonys favoritism towards Chrissy >Tonys favoritism towards Ralph >tony agreeing with the sale of barone sanitation, forcing Paulie to extort Jason >Tony setting Paulie up to die on the boat Paulies not stupid and he knows that since Carlo flipped, his only chance at avoiding prison is to throw in with New York . If Paulie kills Tony, Bobby is dead and Silvio is basically dead so Jersey is effectively done. Paulie sees this as a way to stay ahead of the FBI and get in good with New York.
>>1125 I don't think that's what happened but let's say it is true, he'd still be dead. It's like the retard who cheats with a married man/woman. And then when they leave their husband/wife they get with them as if they won't be cheated on as well. Why would anyone in New York trust Paulie if he flipped on his people in Jersey?
>>1125 >Paulie already in bed with New York Paulie has no connections to New York safe for Johnny Sack who played him. Hence why he's so desperate to get back into Tony's good graces once he realizes that Carmine never even heard of him. That said, the other arguments hold. Paulie was a survivor type and Tony was a sinking ship at the end. Paulie wouldn't move against Tony all on his own, though. Way too risky. If he was involved with whacking Tony, he probably teamed up with Patsy and what other malcontents there may be in Jersey. NY might not even be directly involved.
>>1016 Continuing my thought: I think neither of them would (nor could) do it alone. It required all of them working together. Patsy's son got together with Meadow which was important on the fateful night as this was the only avenue by which they could obtain Tony's location. Butch needed to act on Phil's rather dishonourable demise. Paulie had to make sure that he wouldn't sink due to Carlo talking. And so on... Ultimately though, Chase dropped a million hints and, in the last episode, paired "Don't stop believing" with "Anyway you want it" on the jukebox, suggesting that it could've been anybody, as there were plenty of people with motive and the necessary skills to have the hit arranged.
>>1121 >Paulie murders the waiter after Chrissy hits him with a brick. Yeah, cause Chrissy hit him with a brick. He did it to protect his friend.
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>>1125 >Tonys favoritism towards Ralph Tony despised Ralph and took every opportunity to humiliate him. What is this CHATGPT?
idgaf, kys
>>1227 would


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