>>1624480 >The pixies being the embodiment of good Say tha' twa oor fayces, laddie!

>>1624457 >I think "Fairy" was definitely the wrong word, they should've gone with "Fae" or "Fable" because that's the actual theme. Supernatural creatures from folk tales and fables. The problem is that ghosts and dragons are also supernatural, as are psychic abilities. Remember that "Dark" is still directly called "Evil" in Japan. It's the only type that doesn't directly correspond to the Japanese name.

>>1625050 that scunner wouldnae dare

Didn't Fairy type debut in the same game where Gamefreak had planned an alien invasion plotline, but chickened out and scrapped it instead?

>>1625466 You might be thinking of Breath of the Wild.

Why the fuck does water ground exist as a type, absolute fucking cancer that requires you to have a shitty grass type that will inevitably still get ice beamed by the water ground, fuck this game and it's nonsense

>>1625677 Hey fuck you too man, some of us are doing our best out here

>>1624457 When I think of the Fairy type I think of Grimmsnarl which has a 10/10 design. They should take more cues from SMT and make more Fairy mons that aren't "pink + cute".

>>1626095 mudkip and his evolution line were never cool, and his old fag meme was never funny

>>1624188 based post that perfectly summs up the subconscious reasons most pre gen VI fans lost interest. the new mon artstyle sucked in gen V but the human design suffered worse since gen 6 into androgenic trannies

>>1625036 >What do you mean by that, then? Did faggotry somehow, at some point, stop meaning "effeminacy"? I feel like it's pretty self evident there's nothing feminine about faggots in the same way that there's nothing wolf-like in a furry who pretends to be a wolf the act of imitation gives form to something else entirely also about the movie https://archive.org/details/PokemonS01M03Pokemon3TheMovieSpellOfTheUnown At 0:51 a fairy is riding on Entei at 39:44 there's Alola with a hint at Solgaleo (they probably only knew they wanted it to be sun and moon themed at this point)

>>1626633 this anime girl fairy isn't convincing me that they intended a fairy type

>>1626654 both a hint at fairy and the theme of the games in the gen right after fairy comes out? in the same movie? in the same book? I think the only possible explanations are either that they planned it all in the 90s (very likely if you understand the secret lore) or they looked back to the movie later and used that as inspiration. The page before the fairy and Entei also hints at Diamond and Pearl with the Kabbalistic circle of Unown, the greek pillars, etc. and keep in mind that at this point Unown are mostly themed around egyptian hieroglyphs so those pillars were totally out of place at the time. the only gen missing from the book itself is BW and obviously anything past SM and to be clear, I don't think they planned its place in the meta that far back, that's obviously ridiculous I'm just talking about fairy type as a concept

>>1626702 I'm just saying, the fairy riding Entei doesn't look like a Pokémon at all, just a generic anime fairy girl. The sun looks like a medieval depiction of the sun

>>1626731 well of course, how else would you represent that? surely they're not going to put Floette and Solgaleo in the 2000s movie and then leave them there for 20 years lol all 3 pages are extremely on the nose today, but pretty much inscrutable at the time the movie came out also I missed this page spread, probably XY also, but the vegetation looks kinda English, maybe Sword & Shield again, the only missing piece here is BW, but then again you could make the argument that Truth VS Ideals is the theme of the whole movie. I don't like that explanation though, I think BW wasn't planned this far back.

>>1626830 Well you could make it look more Pokémon-like with different coloured skin or proportions. I think you're stretching on what's simple European style motifs in a storybook

>>1626863 simple european style such as a formation of concentric circles of unowns in the sky surrounded by greek pillars and a tropical island?

>>1626887 I was talking about the fairy pictures but the sun is also a medieval motif and your Kabbala unknowns aren't that unheard-of in western esoterica from that period either.

>>1626915 maybe one can be coincidence, not 3 in the correct order of release

>>1626951 So where is the gen 3 reference and the gen 5 one?

>>1626963 as I said a couple times, BW is the only one that's missing RS were probably too close to hint at here? idk I mean this is from the year 2000, they definitely had a plan but they probably had to adapt to the moment if you're saying that the tropical picture is RS, that's not a bad inference because the sun is looking angry, you could say that's more of a hint at Groudon, but those flowers are not found anywhere in the regions that RS is representing

>>1108346 >playing a shitty game series that is for children You did it to yourself. Go play real games you moron.

>>1627366 >general media is for kids kys

>>1626383 >based post that perfectly summs up the subconscious reasons most pre gen VI fans lost interest I'd say there's neat Pokemon designs on every gen, the problem is the general dumbing down from Gen 6 onwards. Less postgame, forced exp share, removal of features like Set mode. The DLC generally introducing pay2win shit for competitive is really bad too.

>>1627475 >post gen 6 I remember how pokefags spit on gen 5 so hard for whatever reason. One of main reasons being it's pokemon designs, they're too "kanto" or whatever.

>>1627475 Yeah, generally speaking I still enjoy a lot of modern pokemon designs and concepts but the games themselves tend to fall flat in terms of effort, quality and difficulty though I don't mind global EXP share since it cuts grinding in half and no one sane "enjoys" grinding for EXP and EVs ad nauseum for each individual pokemon, plus Game Freak not being able to/not wanting to spice up or change the formula of gameplay outside of minigame modes and extra power-up forms. And the thing is, it HAS been shown recently that Game Freak can really pour in effort into a game to make it stand out on its own like with the mechanics of Legends Arceus and the upcoming Beast of Reincarnation, so really if they wanted to or didn't have constant deadlines breathing down their neck, they could totally make better Pokemon games that aren't as divisive. At least, that's me being optimistic.

>>1627551 The entire POINT of Gen 5 was to be a soft reboot with new analogues for all the Gen 1 Pokémon lines!

>>1627639 >! If you want to prolong this argument, then I'm going to say that it's a poor attempt at it. A reboot is supposed to be a "reset", a flesh new start. Except in this case, there's so many references to the previous games that it's hardly considered one. Some of the Pokemon's designs in Unova are TOO inspired by previous gens. For instance, Purrloin line are mimicking Meowths too closely (both 2 staged quadrupedal cat species), Audino is a carbon copy of Chansley, Timburr line, Tympole line, even the Foongus line are just copy-pasted ideas from previous PKMN, at the very least with Foongus, what it did was really creative, more than Voltorb mind you. The rest don't even try. Didn't helped that some of them are really lazy, Vanilluxe is the biggest offense here, it managed to be worse than Weezing, who takes notes from instead of doing it's own thing. Of course, there's some other Pokemon designs that are really original and genuinely pleasing to the eyes, and those PKMN shows that you don't need any semblance of "Kantoisms" to stand on it's legs. Game Freak can't help themselves to make any reference to to their games, to the point the results were a blatant copy, instead of a nod at worst. Didn't helped that you can actually transfer your favorites from the previous games post-game, which shattered all of credibility that it's a "reboot".

>>1627950 >carbon copy That's what I said, yeah. It's also why it's a soft reboot, since the numbers continue rising and older Pokémon do start showing up after the end game. I'm not excusing what they did, I'm explaining it. The entire point was to make a new Machamp line and a new Gardevoir line and a new Persian line and a new Golem line, etc. A personal response to it–positive or negative–can't ignore that it's what they did. It has to incorporate THAT they did it. Otherwise the person just looks stupid. >you don't need any semblance of "Kantoisms" to stand on it's legs. Hear hear. >Game Freak can't help themselves to make any reference to to their games Their incompetence has been stacking for quite some time. Part of me wants them to have learned their lesson and make Gen 10 actually good, but another (significant) part of me wants them to crash and fucking burn on Gen 10 so fucking hard that they're forced to completely restructure or perhaps license out the property so that someone who 1. actually cares and 2. actually knows how to code starts making Pokémon games again.

>>1627950 I'd much rather what Gen V did than what Gens III and IV did, where you instead got a random smattering of new and old Pokemon just mashed together. Gen II let you get pretty much all old Pokemon, and the few you couldn't felt like version exclusives (helped by the fact that you could simply trade with the old games), and it just added new ones. But then Gen III didn't let you get tons and tons of old ones, but instead of letting you just forget about them, you were constantly reminded, because you still ran into Tentacool every ten seconds. And no, having to re-buy Gen I games for GBA doesn't count (and neither does needing to get a Gamecube, spinoff games, and special Gamecube link cable, either). I'd much rather Gen V's approach of just doing a wholly new Pokedex.

>>1108346 I just hate fairy type because all of them look like faggots.

>>1633426 My main issue with Gen V's dex entry is that some of the character designs are rightfully criticized for being too derivative, as I said before. It isn't bad if some of the Pokemon like Vanilluxe are unique and not lazily copypasted, and if it wasn't promoted as a "soft reboot", which it means acknowledges the previous entries with updated chars and what not, while trying a new direction. Which in Pokemon's case, it was always been a "soft reboot" since Ruby and Sapphire. The last real sequel was GSC, who in that games and before, takes place in our world. (Raichu killing a elephant, Surge the American, Rattatas, etc). And these games had all old pokemon available, of course, for the sake of filling the quota i.e Zubats. And this issue comes to bite itself, because some of the BW's PKMN roster are TOO derivative and different to the point it's a inspiration. To add insult to injury, it's the same games as before, but with new gimmicks, like in every generation before. Then it's no wonder why people were mad that these PKMN were a "replacement" to the og, then cry said ogs are unavailable, because the games failed to present themselves that it's a restart. Again, this could be remedied if it was called a reboot, just straight up a new beginning.

>>1635401 Gens III and IV also had plenty of replacement Pokemon. But the problem is that some are replaced while some old ones are just there like before. Either replace them all or keep them all. Frankly, I don't give a fuck about new Pokemon, at least if the new ones are just replacements, which they always have been, with maybe the exception of Gen II, where you could get basically all the old ones, and the new ones were largely to promote gimmicks like the day/night cycle, or the new types. Rather than removing old ones just to replace them, I'd rather they just stuck with the originals and just give me new adventures with them.

>>1636637 I didn't like how Gen II handled new Pokemon, they should had gave us the options to use new mons too without any insane gimmicks. The fact that Misdreavus is locked behind end game, the new ghost type pokemon is outrageous. Pokemon from Kanto to Johto with cross-gen evolutions + unused beta mons should suffice. The issue with this mindset is that it can be stale. There's nothing wrong with giving new mons the highlight. Especially when there's something as good as Hydreigon or Spinda.

>>1635401 >unique originality is overrated. shit just needs to be good. just because something is original does not make it good (or bad) >inspiration another meme buzzword people toss around to defend rehashes they like. just like rehash is used to criticize knockoffs one doesn't like. it's always like this: if I like it, it's inspiration. if I don't, it's shameless plagiarism