>>1843407 >andrew is what women call a 'mysterious, dominant, tall, dark man' >Andrew >dominant Anon. ANON.

>>1843536 Look, the general consensus in the cuckchan thread (which has literal women) last time I visited was like this: >ashley is a misunderstood cinnamon bun that only likes Andrew with all her heart >sure she hates andrew's gf and stuffed a kid inside of a box but she actually didn't do anything which means she didn't do anything wrong! >Andy SHOULD have been the bigger man as a ten year old and SHOULD've not listened to leyley for locking her inside. HE locked her inside the box after ashley told him to because leyley said nothing bad's going to happen. HE's the dangerous psychopath and not ashley. Ashley is just fine. >Have you seen how he acts around leyley? He's OBSESSED and POSSESIVE with her and would KILL anyone who tries to come near her. He's a BORN psychopath! Nevermind the fact that his mother basically forced to raise her and made him do whatever ashley said at all times and neever scold her at all, or else momma's gonna beat the shit out of him! >Didn't you see how he strung along Julia for YEARS???? He just WOULD NOT admit his feelings for Ashley and bury them under the rug and try to be a """"normal"""" person and try to love someone else. That's one MANIPULATIVE, TOXIC, SOCIOPATH I tell you. >Oh wait. Did you see how he had the thought of wanting to knock Julia's teeth out because she kept biting him during blowjobs???? THAT FUCKING ASSHOLE HOLY SHIT I CAN'T EVEN OH- >intrusive thoughts? what's that? sounds like an excuse tbh. >did you see how he choked Ashley and kept wringing her around? Andrew is the one who wears the pants in the relationship and NOT ashley. Ashley's just a slightly mouthy bitch but Andrew can btfo ashley anytime he wants! She is completely blameless and brings nothing upon herself! > ...did you see what he did to Ashley???? he... he BEAT HER UP. WHO THE HELL BEATS UP A WOMAN????? So what if she's been uh, slightly bitchy her whole entire life? That doesn't mean you should beat a woman up. schlick shlick schlick schlick schlick >only ANDREW wants to fuck ashley. Ashley is pure and only wants andrew's love. Andrew is a DERANGED, POSSESIVE psychopath that wants to FUCK ashley raw until cum starts oozing out of her ears. He's gonna have his way with her, you'll see! well, part of it is true, but yeah dunno why my router is being gay today btw

>>1843711 Not from what i've seen, i've seen women simp for Andy and hate on Ashley. It's the guys who defend Ashley.

>>1843771 I haven't seen the cuckchan threads, and I can't know for sure who is a dude or a gal, but the idea that men will always defend women and women will always defend men is not always true. For a somewhat recent case, when we had the Johnny Depp vs Amber trial, after the first few days the majority of both men and women(some of them feminists) were on Johnny's side, because of how horrible of a woman Amber was.

>>1843771 >i've seen women simp for Andy calling him a possessive, obsessed psychopath is how they simp for him

>>1842125 This. Everyone in /calg/ has such a unwarranted hateboner for this mod while they simultaneously bitch about content draughts. It's so performative and retarded and I can't tell if it's genuine belief or retarded contrarianism.

>>1843067 > it's been like this for decades what they think it would happen. Year after year they have been label inofensive shit into "problematic" loli, bikinis, big breats, good looking women. Of course thei would keep the grift going, there is money to be had after all, so after the exausted the "male gase" of course they would go for the female gase

>>1843399 As true as this is, I never like low effort trolls like this since near invariably people who post it think "But I'm the 1% olympian gigachad"

>>1841265 Because it's fun. >>1842122 I think liking the hag is a very serious case of having irredeemably shit taste, but whatever.

>>1841265 Women on the internet turns out they might exist after all tend to love porn games/games with sexual content, especially ones that are graphic and degenerate. It also depends on what you mean by popular. The game may seem super popular because it is often talked about in the places (You) frequent online, but there is no way that the average normalfag will ever touch this game. So it can't be popular in the usual sense of the word.

>>1844722 Based and true

>>1843267 >women’s literotica >well written

>>1844722 a milf's a milf

>>1844722 >I think liking the hag is a very serious case of having irredeemably shit taste, but whatever. that depends. at the first release renee was actually pretty hot. but after decay release her personality became so unsable thats had became a massive turn off for me.

>>1845060 >but after decay release her personality became so unsable that's because of seethlei seething

>>1845064 The mod will probably cause nemlei to “reveal” that Renee planned to chop Andrew’s dick off or something.

>>1844692 Lol no, I'm all of those combined but at least I have enough self awareness to admit it. I'm basically a turbo lolcow.

>>1845170 >nullo OWO~!

>>1844722 Cringe and false.

>>1845635 It's just nemlei seething again.

>>1850581 Martyr needs to be there, not only she fucked her brother and have twins with him but even her multiple clones want to fuck the clone of her brother.

>>1850657 Citadel's a bit more niche.

>>1850581 Who's the teacher for that classroom?

>>1850581 i know this is a real artist but the brightness of the colors sort of made it look like AI to me

>>1841215 >>1841188 >>1841179 >>1841058 >>1841050 >>1839932 Can't say i like it, but i can acknowledge the effort where it due. The first chapter of this one felt way too on rails, using the exact same template like any other mod of this one (I suppose that's happens when you mod a game in early access), but this one had a whole lot of effort of original content and it starting to take it's own form. Still, not my cup of tea, so i won't follow. I believe mods of this game miss the point all the time, but i think it comes down mostly to differentiate between >Fan work >Re work of ideas, or rewriting All mods of coffin falls on the later. Personally, a better example of fan fictions (as in, made by fans) are "The Torment of Audrey Graves" and "Better Threads" on Ao3, but it's because they are fan works trough and trough, as in, they try to understand Nemlei way of thinking and ideals rather than "correct them", while adding their personal touch. If you like the game, but don't mind or care about the writer original work, it can be seem as fine or interesting variation, but if you are a fan of the game and the writer, is a massive turn off in every sense, as it lacks integrity immensely. >>1841265 I like the author body of work, honestly. It can be really girly at times, but its a lot of fun, and the underlying message across them, and the magical worlds and premises are all spot on. It also part of those pieces of media that are not afraid of compromising with their own premise to the fullest extent, having a remarkable metaphorical balls to express what it wants. If you liked Vasques "Invader Zim", Nemlei games take after a similar style overall. I personally love her stuff, but it can be a serviceable "web comic" material if you're interested.

>>1850673 I honestly felt the same way, but with some of the shapes, too.

>>1851479 >If you like the game, but don't mind or care about the writer original work, it can be seem as fine or interesting variation, but if you are a fan of the game and the writer, is a massive turn off in every sense, as it lacks integrity immensely. Imagine calling someone who likes a work enough to do his own entire game based on that universe "lacking in integrity." On a completely unrelated topic, I still prefer Airloopy's AU.

>>1852663 >Imagine calling someone who likes a work enough to do his own entire game based on that universe "lacking in integrity." You're right on the integrity thing, maybe that was not the correct way to express what i was trying to say. The point still stands tho: First, the author of this mod is one of the people that runs the subreddit, and he prioritize his own mod over official Nemlei news and devlogs, so how's is that "liking the work enough"? Second, in support to this claim, the Renee mod is the absolute complete opposite of everything Coffin is about, for instance, https://youtu.be/vydqAIFF-8M The correct way to put it is that they are "re-imagining" the game, but Nemlei values or adjacent way to portrait her vision on it are nowhere to be seen on any mod so far, specially this one. It's alright, if this mod interest you for some reason, that doesn't matter: The point is, that this is not a "fan work" because i fail to see any appreciation of the original work in any sense, so it's not like that comment was out of nowhere. Aside - And just to make this reply more meaningful: I liked their flashbacks portraits. I think a great idea for a mod (it would be ideal to wait for this game to be finished first, of course) would be exploring their backstory. Renee and Douglas are sweet couple in the game, and details like their souls finding each other on the afterlife are the cherry on top, so it would be great to see someone take on that while appreciating the source material. Or to take things even further, maybe a Nemlei game about a couple of parents that do things right, and the story is about them sustaining a family life; as an author which most of main stories revolve about malfunctioning individuals from broken households, a game like that would bring it all full circle.

>>1851479 >t.nemlei >>1853714 >everything Coffin is about Mommy issues, yes.

>>1853784 >>t.nemlei I'll take that as a compliment. >Mommy issues, yes. I guess. I mean, it's all about what oneself enjoy from coffin ultimately. After some afterthought consideration, maybe people like the dev from that mod enjoy the incestuous trait the best, and so does the vast majority of the people apparently. But others, for instance, find the writing compelling overall.

>>1854048 hi calg She definitely does show that she can write a story that's not just a fetish fulfilment vehicle or one that's been done a thousand times. For the rest of her work, well, I just can't really see them past the thoughts of >yeah, she definitely masturbates to this. and >androgynous yaoi-shota blobs eugh or >boring gore murder ritual thing Which is what they are when you boil them down to the core. The story and setup are just the window dressing with some drama derived from personal trauma (possibly bad or neglectful upbringing) mixed in. But if that's what you like then that's what you like please don't come near me if that's true btw I'll be honest, I'm not really the type to go to fanfiction.net, or Ao3, or 'ruminate on my feelings'. The only reason I checked out coffin is because there's this very tiny sliver of overlap of fetishes between me and the author (incest (heterosexual)). That, and she was willing to go all the way. The claim of her 'boldness' in this aspect falls flat in her other work because if you look at women's literature, they're already this depraved or they go beyond it. This 'boldness' is just horniness overcoming fear with the help of pseudonymity and a secretly-willing initial female audience. >>1853714 >no appreciation no integrity interest blah blah blah I don't care. The internet has produced far worse with much less effort in the name of "fan work".

>>1854339 Hey man, what's up? >or one that's been done a thousand times Creation is finished, so there will never be nothing in the world that has not been done infinite amount of times across all possible existence for the rest of eternity, but you can enjoy what you like the most and it's variations. There are no answers, only choices. >Which is what they are when you boil them down to the core. I don't agree, that's pretty reductive. But i guess it's more about tastes than anything, in how inclined you're to give her games a deeper thought. I'm even fond of her first game, but even Nemlei herself would disagree with me in this one. Charming characters, interesting grim tales worlds, really nice premises, and deeply personal themes with a true optimistic outlook that get their point across, her stories are good fun all around. I found her message in agreement with my personal philosophy, in general terms. >But if that's what you like then that's what you like The thing is, the interpretation, or what we absorb from her stories, is absolutely opposite in each other perspective. We don't see her tales in the same way. Speaking of which, and to kill two dragons with one spell: >This 'boldness' is just horniness overcoming fear with the help of pseudonymity and a secretly-willing initial female audience. "Boldness" is way too vague. "Boldness" could be something like that videogame Hatred that was a serpent fart and just violent for the sake of it more than anything meaningful. The violence and cynicism in Nemlei games (in the way i see it) it's present to understand that characters can find fulfillment regardless of their "unconventional" ways of living. An outcast get split in two and end up feeling a new sort of loneliness from it, a cultist divided between his faith and his love for his only kin, a couple of dysfunctional lovers siblings that get torn between each other and even facing the actual physical hellscape in order to resolve their inner struggles, and all that, with the symbolism and metaphors, the "dream-like" settings, i could talk about it for a while (And i would try plenty to not end up rambling). It's understandable why this board would have a hard time getting into those tho, it's pretty much the opposite of what this place values, and it doesn't help that it comes from a woman. Speaking of which: About what girls generally write and read, i don't really generalize that much: Dorohedoro was made by a woman and was also a fun, violent ride altogether that i enjoyed in its moment. Wasn't the original God of War directed or written by a woman also? Maybe you're putting way too much attention in the shovelware of fiction and stating that "that's all there is to it", and indeed, in your experience can be true, but there's all sort of things in the world. Everything just exists. >I don't care. The internet has produced far worse with much less effort in the name of "fan work". I completely agree with that. I suppose my rejection comes from what i'm looking for and from being a fan of her works. It just doesn't feels the same, and i don't agree with the values that comes from it. Most of my reject may come more from making contrast than anything. It also doesn't help that the community for these games give a wrong impression but you just simply have to get used to that, it happens to every endevour under the sun, so you just don't mind and keep doing what you love. And lastly >I'm not really the type to go to fanfiction.net, or Ao3, or 'ruminate on my feelings'. There are a bunch of amazing writers on those sites, but that's a subject that goes beyond the scope of what we can discuss here. Cheers.

>>1873425 Cute

>>1873425 Mother of the year.