>>1834797 Yes, thank you for your contribution to the conversation. It was very enlightening. Do you have something else you wanted to share with the class? >>1834799 How the ever loving fuck is a 6 year dev cycle every supposed to be either profitable, focused, or enjoyable in any way? It's just like Bethesda and their games. Balloon so big that it's gonna pop super fast and they won't be able to recoup.

>>1834713 Unless Sony artificially cuts off new PS4 game licensing

>>1834811 BOY I SURE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE THIRD PERSON SLOW AS FUCK WALK-IN-THE-FOREST GAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE #69!

>>1834819 >Do you have something else you wanted to share with the class? Soy

>>1834676 >Buy this new $1000 console to play old games from a console you can get secondhand or just emulate anyway

>>1834799 Id love to see a new sony console with good exclusives but im sure as hell not expecting it after ps4 and ps5 >>1834875 Ive been considering getting a ps4 pro to jailbreak it for a while now, wonder whether the games im interested in have downscaling and 60fps patches Also >emulate what titles are actually playable on the emulators? Bloodborne?

>>1834888 >what titles are actually playable on the emulators? shadPS4 is at roughly 30% of the ps4 library, apparently. ("Ingame" means it's playable, "Playable" means no bugs, don't know why it's like that but almost all emulators use the same terminology)

>>1834799 <PS4 era >Elder Scrolls 6 officially teased in 2018 <PS5 releases >still no ES6, entire time the console exists <PS6 in 2027 >ES6 finally releases "AAA" game release cycles have grown so much that instead of the same game being released on three console generations, it's ENTIRE CONSOLE GENERATIONS BEING SKIPPED by games.

>>1834484 >Negative games? Anti-games. If you install them on a hard drive with an actual game they violently annihilate each other. With Sony's current lineup, that would be the best possible outcome.

>>1834532 At this rate, Playstation 9 isn't going to have any games at all - they'll just ship packets of LSD laced fentanyl so that you can make your own fun.

With the inevitable PS6, would it be backwards compatible with ps4 or would it aim to only accommodate ps5? Since its architecture probably won't be anything different aside from "boosting" what the ps5 did. I can't imagine how much things will change from ps5 to ps6 since it felt like a halfway generation as games are still being published to ps4 even now.

>>1834935 Whole trilogies have released before some of these fucking games and they sell worse, it's mental. These companies are completely talentless and mismanaged.

>>1834453 WHYYYYY THE PS5 NEVER EVEN GOT GOOD. Who even decided consoles needed to be on a specifically seven year lifespan anyways? How much has tech really improved from PS4 let alone PS5 launch? Nobody I know or have seen recently is dying for a new console (outside of like, Vita 2), combined with recent AAA fatigue releasing PS6 within the next 18 months will be a death sentence for Sony and probably put them on the same level as Microsoft. >>1834799 That's also a load of horseshit, dev cycles mostly ballooned due to incompetent mismanagement, hundreds of devs who can't figure out how to model an apple wasting a combined thousands of hours on setpiece design, scrapping full prototype builds, dealing with bureaucratic red tape, I can only imagine the shitshow at AAA studios right now.

>>1836172 They have to release something, though. Despite rumors to the contrary, Microsoft is still on track to put out a Next Gen system - and Microsoft has every incentive to get this generation over with and make the transition to console/PC hybrids as soon as the back-ends are fully developed. Microsoft doesn't see Sony as competition. If Xbox fails too badly, they can always just jettison the division and keep on making all the money on operating systerms, servers, and services. Sony HAS to compete with Microsoft, because even if MS only have a foot in that market, that's still competition to Sony. Playstation is far and away Sony's most profitable division - a core pillar of their entire corporate structure, with their financial services coming in a distant second. They can't afford to not have a new machine on the market to meet competition. That said, Sony's kind of fucked right now. They can't afford to keep making these huge triple and quadruple-gay games without having them on PC. Putting them on PC means, defacto, they get an Xbox release (via Steam). Sony also doesn't have the ability to add in PC functionality, because they make their money from games. Opening up the platform to competing stores would just eat into their bottom line. Microsoft, on the other hand, doesn't give a fuck about games. They want you using Microsoft services and operating systems from which they can scrape telemetry, target ads, and sell you Office365 subscriptions. Buy all the games on Steam that you want, they don't care. They're still getting paid, and they keep their market control. Best best for Sony right now really is to just go the Nintendo route and pull back on AAA development. Open up their catalogue of IPs and start making really fun AA titles that have multiple entries per console generation and which are completely exclusive to Playstation. They can still make AAA games here and there to showcase the hardware, but use the sales of the AA IPs as a barometer as to what people want from a AAA... and switch franchises up. I don't really see an option for them OTHER than to secure exclusivity of first parties, and that will force them to adopt more sustainable development practices.

>>1836216 >Sony's kind of fucked right now. What baffles me is that Sony is only now getting the memo >>1835920 , not only might it be too late for them to course correct, but abandoning their current audience for new waters again would be suicidal >Best best for Sony right now really is to just go the Nintendo route and pull back on AAA development. They should've done it when anons first started suggesting this exact plan years back, Sega's at least announced something similar, I know basically nothing about what Sega's done since bseides announce VF6 (fingers crossed), if they need to start splitting teams or, god forbid, properly downscaling their production to attain that much agility then so be it.

>>1836172 I have to wonder if it's purely corpo FOMO, the PS5 could reasonably go another few years. Its biggest constraint is the unified RAM, which would mostly be used for textures leaving little actual RAM for games. >>1836267 >source is That Park Place Not to be taken seriously.

>>1836286 >the PS5 could reasonably go another few years Bingo, judging by all the PS4 downports, the PS4 clearly could've stuck around as well. >>source is That Park Place Know nothing about the source, how bad is it?

>>1836057 Considering that they are planning to make their new console a handheld home console hybrid i would not count on complete backwards compatibility with ps5, unless they go crazy and include the ps5 silicon for docked mode >>1836172 >Who even decided consoles needed to be on a specifically seven year lifespan anyways? Noone really, companies just started to relase competing consoles few years after each other to compete >Nobody I know or have seen recently is dying for a new console (outside of like, Vita 2) Its crazy that vita had more exclusives than the ps5 and this piece of shit air purifier sold 5 times more units

>>1836298 >Know nothing about the source, how bad is it? Do you know what wishcasting is? That's TPP, it's fantasy hype and ragebait for anti-woke people. <[culture war topic] MADE ZERO (0) DOLLARS ($), ALL STAFF MEMBERS COMMIT SUICIDE <IN 15 SECONDS EA'S CEO WILL EXECUTE ENTIRE EXECUTIVE BOARD ON LIVE TELEVISION AND REMOVE ALL WOMEN FROM POSITIONS OF POWER Not that other outlets are "good", but they don't generally blatantly invent stories.

>>1836298 Isn't PS6 supposed to have a bunch of "revolutionary" AI features specifically built in? They may feel like they need to upgrade the hardware in order to get out ahead of where the market will be in the next eight years. That said, AMD provides their chipset - so expect AI implementation to be about as impressive as console Ray Tracing despite being hailed as a paradigm shift in games. At the very least they're being a bit more pro-active, rather than finally discovering that solid state drives were a thing and trying to convince everyone that a standard off the shelf NVME drive was some crazy magic sauce that would make all games 150% better for reasons.

>>1836314 >That said, AMD provides their chipset I mean AMD isn't doing as bad in the AI department as they are in the RTRT so it could actually be decent. >rather than finally discovering that solid state drives were a thing and trying to convince everyone that a standard off the shelf NVME drive was some crazy magic sauce that would make all games 150% better for reasons. The magic sauce wasn't strictly that it was also giving the ability to the GPU to access storage directly without having to first go through the CPU and main system memory, but as it turns out it's really not that much of a bottleneck (hell every "revolutionary" stuff they made runs off a SATA SSD just fine).

>>1834453 >Within 18 months, the current gen will be over. Did the current gen even begin yet?

Bloodborne station, Nothing station, Nothing station 2. Amazing trilogy.

>>1834484 >>1834585 I suppose it's time for them to move onto imaginary games. Oh, no, they already do that too. Uh...

Will it have more than 1 game?

>>1836855 >Did the current gen even begin yet? No

With Xbox being dead and there being no competition the price will be incredible.

>>1837308 I blame Apple. Seriously, if they can charge retards $1,000 for a fucking monitor stand (not even that monitor, just the goddamned stand), then why wouldn't every retard with brand recognition charge insane prices for hardware? Why market an affordable device to a hundred end users when you could gouge the fuck out of one Saudi cock sucker and make 2-3x the profit?

>>1837271 No, but that one game will be ASTRO BOT 2 BAYBEEEEE It'll probably see a lot of games were intended for PS5, but will end up launching on PS6.

>>1834453 I noticed that the PS5 didn't outsold its previous predecessors (even been roughly behind by two GameBoy consoles), which begs the question if the new PlayStation could even surpass the 5th console in terms of sales. In my opinion, they should at least go to the route of making an actual good portable console like the PSP to compete with the Switch 2, but knowing how they fucked with the Vita, that's not possible.

>>1838379 To be fair, those systems have been out for a lot longer. I'm always surprised the PS4 so significantly outsold the PS3, which was much better for games. I'm assuming that's due to the historic Xbone and Wii U flubs.

>>1838379 >Playstations regularly sell in the range of 100 million You'd think that with that many consoles being sold, that Sony would actually take the time to make the user experience actually usable. I don't have a PS5, but the Playstation Store on PS4 is damned near unusable and lacks basic features. Half the fucking screen is just wasted space - so you have to crawl through it three games per line. The way I hear it, Sony had no fucking clue what they were doing when they first set the store up on PS3 (hence the hacks) and now they're stuck with that infrastructure or risk nuking a bunch of people's purchase histories and licenses in a migration to a more robust system. Maybe they bit the bullet and fixed it for PS5, but that sure as fuck hasn't translated to improved UI or features for PS4.

>>1838387 >PS3 was better for games Fuck no, plus it was stupidly expensive for 2 years >>1838439 Every modern UI developer is a hack from Television services and mobile games. Fucking Activision hired the guy who made the menu for Hulu to work on COD.

>>1838387 Yeah PS4 had the entire 8th generation market to themselves basically. Plus it wasn't comically overpriced like the PS3 was, the PS3 was a genuine disaster for Sony.