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DONKEY KONG Anonymous 01/16/2025 (Thu) 20:38:12 Id: f555e3 No. 1061714 >>1061718 >>1061729 >>1061840
D K DONKEY KONG Which is the best Donkey kong game and why is it tropical freeze? More importantly, how come Nintendo hasn't made any DK games lately? I have pretty much given up hope of a 3d collectathon like 64 but having Retro hammer out another 2d platformer can't be too much of a hassle. Maybe just have a new studio make a whole new kind of DK game? There is a lot of things you can do with DK and his extended family.
>>1061714 (OP) Where does it ever say Chunky Kong is related to Donkey Kong? I thought he was just related to Dixie. It's weird if he's related to DK because then Diddy and Dixie have an incestuous relationship. I mean I know they're monkeys and wouldn't give a fuck, but still.
>>1061718 I have no idea. I just found the chart and thought it was funny. The wiki doesn't say anything about it.
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>>1061729 I want Rogen Dong fucking dead, you hear me? DEAD!
>>1061729 The image is shit quality and when I watched the Nintendo video he just seems "off" but what's actually different? I can't tell, but it feels like he just looks incorrect.
>>1061737 They're rewriting history so that DK looks more like his appearance in the movie adaptation Say goodbye to the design which Rare invented
>>1061760 >Say goodbye to the design which Rare invented i.e. the GOOD design
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>>1061729 They un-bolted him, the squarish proportions steve mayle's is known has been entirely scrubbled. I must admit, nuts and bolts character design was too angular, but this feels like the opposite end of the problem. We'll get used to it I suppose
>>1061810 Yeah, that's how I feel as well. It's just weird making such a drastic design after so long.
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>>1061714 (OP) When it comes to the development of a new DK game, alot of rumors and speculation have been pointing towards EPD Tokyo as the new devs for the series going forward. Going by the 2D action game hiring that Nintendo posted back in 2020, that's most likely when the new game started development.
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>>1061840 <look up EPD tokyo >3d all stars >3d world >super mario odyssey. >mariomaker 2 What the fuck? Is there still hope for a 3d DK?
>>1061842 Unless it turns out to be EPD Tokyo's unique take on 2d Mario, I think the 2d game is the Donkey Kong game we're getting.
>>1061840 Wasn't the "new" DK game that was leaked just the Mario and Donkey Kong remake game from last year?
>>1061810 >We'll get used to it I suppose No. I refuse.
>>1061881 No, that was confirmed to be a seperate thing, mainly developed by NST. I think when Pyoro first leaked it, they made it seem like it was a new DK game, only to reveal that it was just a remake of a spinoff title on the GBA.
>>1061760 He looks like a semitic ape, especially with the more obvious unibrow. Except cranky to look very jewish, like a rabbi.
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>>1061904 >He looks like a semitic ape He needs to look like his voice actor
>>1085470 Looking forward to playing it in a year once I can emulate it.
>>1085472 >implying you will be able to emulate it
>>1085478 Probably not for another year or two, but emulation is inevitable
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>>1085478 Resistance is futile, Furukawa-san. You will be emulated.
>>1085470 Honestly this looks like a wario game more than a donkey kong game.
>>1085494 Yeah, I can see that
>>1061760 I really don't like it, it doesn't look goofy enough
>>1061760 Kinda, they designed movie DK to be the new DK going forward, they say it in the direct IIRC
>>1061842 >>1085470 Hot damn they actually made a new 3d DK. Not sure if I want to get a whole new console just for it.
>>1085504 Yeah, I'm kinda surprised they didn't just make it a 3D Mario game again.
I hate this design.
>>1061729 NotMyDong
>>1085516 HE HATES IT
>>1061729 >>1061760 I hate it. >>1061735 I agree.
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>>1085470 If you listen at 1:47 when he smashes the triple banana they did the "Ohh Banana~" finish like DK64.
>>1085470 Where's Diddy?
>>1085706 in jail.
>>1085470 Everyone is loving the new monke girl
>>1085709 With Luigi?
>>1085715 Luigi was just moved to death row, don't worry he has en extra life.
>>1085713 Candy Kong is better.
>>1085719 I don't see Candy hanging around with a buttplug.
>>1085481 It will have to get thoroughly hacked first before people can even begin to emulate it so you'll be waiting a while.
>>1085728 What?
>>1061718 >It's weird if he's related to DK because then Diddy and Dixie have an incestuous relationship. Cousin relationships are not incestuous.
>>1085750 Cletus...
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>>1085753 So can I lay without the overalls? Asking for a friend.
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>>1061718 >>1085750 They’re monkeys.
>>1085753 So this proves Cranky was the original DK?
>>1085833 Do you honestly think Nintendo cars?
>>1085772 out of 10
>>1085772 They're apes, monkeys have tails.
>>1085867 Diddy has a tail.
>>1085867 Cladistically, apes, catarrhines, and extinct species such as Aegyptopithecus and Parapithecidaea, are monkeys
>>1085872 He does, which makes Donkey Kong a monkey's uncle. >>1085884 They're all primates, not monkeys. All monkeys are primates, not all primates are monkeys.
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>>1062044 He also voiced a wildboar in the shitty TMNT reboot.
>>1086389 4chan please return
>>1085713 I want to put my penis inside of her.
If you catch my drift.
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>>1086386 The game looks like Mario Odyssey tbh. I wonder if New Donk City will be reused at some point.
>>1086399 Probably made by the same team, I don't think it's a bad thing either since I wouldn't want such a talented group to be limited to Mario sequels.
>>1086404 Doesn't seem like it also WHERE ARE HER BOOBS?
>>1086405 Damn I hope she won't turn out to be a he.
>>1086406 I doubt Nintendo is that retarded.
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>>1086386 I don't think that's Pauline, she looks too young. That might be her Daughter, Niece or something. If Cranky and Pauline are the Original DK arcade characters, then it would be Cute to put the younger Generation together now. Cranky is in the game, so I'm pretty sure it's confirmed he's still the canonical original Donkey Kong. Pauline is also the mayor of a city now, she's wouldn't really go on such an adventure when she has responsibilities.
>>1086421 Maybe they made her into a child through the power of bananafuckery?
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Pauline is rpetty good. Would breed,. Breed. make m0ore kids. breed pauline,.
>>1086424 I would bananafuckery child Pauline, if you catch my drill.
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>>1086405 Probably a flatty or small tits compressed by her top.
>>1086404 Doesn't load for me.
>>1086459 >arrives home from doing whatever mischievous things evil monkeys get up to >lets out a sigh of relief as she lifts her tight top >absolutely huge badonkers flop out
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>>1086405 Most primates don't have enlarged mammaries unless they have offspring, and even then they are saggy.
>>1086524 Reality didnt stop them before.
>>1086531 They'd just ruin her like Twana
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>>1086524 Most primates don't surf, either. But that never stopped anyone.
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>>1086538 It could go one way or the other, Pauline is pretty Fateful to her earliest design, aside from the fact her smash bros trophy hints that she changed her hair to avoid being mistaken for Peach. Although it does beg the question of how much worse can you get then the 90's Canadian CGI Candy who was a huge bitch most of the time.
>>1086386 >>1086421 Some people are theorizing that the little purple gem companion is taking for form of Pauline, since DK is already fond of her. The “Young Pauline” is wearing a purple bracelet, so that's possible. Eyes are the same color, but also Pauline's eyes are already that color.
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>>1086386 >>1086421 >>1086631 >here's a new loli >it's a rock
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>>1086631 Damn they replaced Diddy with a rock.
>>1086924 They also replaced Donkey with a worse looking Donkey.
>>1086991 The guy who designed Donkey Kong Country DK disagrees.
>>1087020 Sauce?
>>1087020 Given what happened with both Rare and Playtonic, I'm gonna assume that guy is a massive cuck.
>>1087034 That's a fair assumtion.
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>>1087034 Considering Rareware/Gaytonic employees came out of the closet to be the biggest race traitors in all of the UK and refuse to let go their glory days, they could potentially taint Nintendo's family friendly image. Of course they had borrow GrubAHub Kong, at least the frenchfags at Illumination keep their political autism to themselves.
So what exactly looks worse about nu DK beyond looking different?
>>1087055 >Considering Rareware/Gaytonic employees came out of the closet to be the biggest race traitors in all of the UK Context?
>>1087066 This same question could be used to justify any ugly redesign. Humans have an instinctual response to both beauty and ugliness.
>>1087066 Take your pick. >it's weird looking >it's Dreamworksification of the character >the DKC version, and variations of it, has been the definitive look for 30 some odd years and across multiple games and media, to change it now is stupid >it frankly clashes with the other characters that all seem to stick more to the original DKC look The game is DmK: Donkey may Kong as far as I'm concerned.
>>1087081 >This same question could be used to justify any ugly redesign. Not really. When a female character is redesigned to look like an ugly bulkdyke tranny, you can clearly explain that the reason this is bad is because the female character does not look like a woman. When a design is censored you can clearly point this out. All you’ve said about DK is “ he looks bad”. >>1087105 >it's weird looking The previous design looks weirder. Perpetually frowned Brow with pointy eyeliner and flat nose-holes in his beak-looking mouth. And as has already said, the mew design better lends its self to expressions. >it's Dreamworksification of the character How so? It’s based on the Miyamoto design. And how is this not a subjective criticism? Dreamworld did not invent nor own expressions. >the DKC version, and variations of it, has been the definitive look for 30 some odd years In other words, you dislike it because it looks different
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>>1087120 >How so? It’s based on the Miyamoto design. And if they went back to Miyamoto's Mario from 30 or 40 years ago it would look weird too. >you dislike it because it looks different There was no need to change it. Not after this late date. >And as has already said, the mew design better lends its self to expressions. I don't give a flying fuck what the new dev thinks.
>>1087066 It's a flanderization of the character and also deviates from the original style too much. DK was able to emote but it was much more subdued, this is just a bit too far and reminds me of the animation of ZZZ.
>>1087310 >And if they went back to Miyamoto's Mario from 30 or 40 years ago it would look weird too. It’s not a 1-1 copy, as can be seen. I still don’t see how it looks any “weirder” than any other cartoon animal. It arguably looks less weird than the previous design’s face for reasons already mentioned. >I don't give a flying fuck what the new dev thinks It’s got nothing to do with what they think. Objectively speaking DK’s old design, his eyebrows mostly, made emoting harder. Not impossible of course, but the new one is more flexible. >There was no need to change it. Not after this late Do you admit you dislike it because it’s different
>>1087336 >made emoting harder Who gives a fuck about a platformer & collectathon character emoting? >dislike it because it’s different Why do you act like this is some sort of "gotcha?"
>>1087340 >Who gives a fuck about a platformer & collectathon character emoting? You care enough to bemoan it. Generally speaking, animated characters in any media look better when they are more animated. Especially if they’re organic animals instead of say a robot. >Why do you act like this is some sort of "gotcha?" Because your original claim is that it looked worse
>>1087353 Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing or are you just trying to white knight Nintendo?
>>1087363 Not helping your case here.
>>1087396 My argument is that it's a shit design. I don't have to cite anything. More to the point my argument was that it was an unnecessary design change after the previous one has existed longer than half the posters on this board even have. Even if something were to be objectively good, which this design certainly isn't, then it becomes a bad idea if implemented after too long a time. See Terraria 1.4 for more details.
>>1087398 >My argument is that it's a shit design. Your arguments for it being a shit design were incredibly weak, and when this was pointed out your only response was "you must be a white knight for nintendo". >More to the point my argument was that it was an unnecessary design change Revisionism. As you just said a sentence ago, your argument which was your original claim you made here >>1086991 btw was that is was a shit design. Your arguments were weak. >it becomes a bad idea if implemented after too long a time Sounds arbitrary to me.
>>1087401 This is what /pol/ calls pilpul, isn't it? Please go back to reddit or cuckchan.
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>>1087401 >Revisionism. He said "even if." You can have more than one argument in favor of a point. >>1087120 >you can clearly explain that the reason this is bad is because the female character does not look like a woman. When a design is censored you can clearly point this out. Nobody claimed DK was being censored, and he wasn't a realistic looking monkey anyway. But some things are still ugly. Go live in some commieblock if you want to pretend beauty doesn't exist. It's functional, there are no "objective" arguments about why you wouldn't want to live there. But it's fucking ugly on an instinctual level, and everyone knows it.
I don't like the new design either. It just looks worse to me. Are we suddenly not allowed to not like things now?
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>>1087407 >Nobody claimed DK was being censored Nobody claimed you were claiming that. The point was in cases like those there was legitimate arguments provided as to why pozzed designs look ugly. >he wasn't a realistic looking monkey anyway Never said he should. >It's functional No, communist dictatorships conclusively are not. >if you want to pretend beauty doesn't exist Its a cartoon gorilla. The word you want to use is "aesthetically pleasing". > But it's fucking ugly on an instinctual level, and everyone knows it. If that were true then everyone would instinctual agree, but you can find any number of posts online to the contrary. I see no reason to think that you dislike the design for any reason other than that you're used to the old one. I also see no reason to assume that your instincts would be infallible even if they were why you dislike it. The only issue I have with the new design is how close together the eyes are, which none of you even pointed out. Whether or not that's an objective flaw I'm unsure on. I don't deny that objective beauty exists, but that doesn't mean that every single time you dislike a design its for that reason. Say, if you have a character design that's been changed to have a different color-palette. If the palette has been changed to a poor color combination that doesn't follow color theory, then its actually bad, and you'd be correct for saying as much. If its an equally good or better color palette, and you just dislike it for being different, you can dislike but you should say its actually bad when its just your preference. >>1087409 You should have said "I dislike it" from the get go. That's an opinion. Saying "They also replaced Donkey with a worse looking Donkey" is a claim. Plus you continuously provided poor arguments in defense of that claim, thereby treating it like a fact instead of a mere preference.
>>1087409 How is disagreeing with you not allowing you to dislike things? Why are you acting like twitter feminists?
>>1087426 >No, communist dictatorships conclusively are not. That's not what "commieblock" means. It's a functional building, designed with your precise mentality, that aesthetics are subjective anyway and therefore might as well be disregarded, but literally the reason it isn't functional is because it is ugly. >Its a cartoon gorilla. The word you want to use is "aesthetically pleasing". Literally the same thing. >pedantry about the hyperbole of "everybody." You'll also find people claiming that lady who ruined Ecce Homo actually made it better. You can find tons of jews and golems claiming that some guy literally shitting on a canvas is better art than the works of Norman Rockwell. You can find tons of commieblocks around the world because people said it's "just as good" or even better than all the stuff that came before. But the existence of these few doesn't make them right. Again, beauty still exists. >color theory Trying to turn art into science is one of the biggest problems with art in the last century. You're one step away from being the music industry executives that manufacture Taylor Swift or whatever they're shitting out now and say it's perfect because it's mathematically designed to follow music theory. Your arguments amount to the same ones that have resulted in the absolute destruction of western art in all its forms. >>1087428 >Why are you acting like twitter feminists? Says the guy who is essentially saying beauty doesn't exist because art is subjective. Also, it's the twitter feminists who say you aren't allowed to dislike things. They're the ones who come after you for saying the new Star Wars or Marvel or Assassin's Creed is shit.
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>>1087411 DK's earlier non-DKC illustrations for reference.
>>1087426 >You should have said "I dislike it" from the get go. I did. >Plus you continuously provided poor arguments in defense of that claim, thereby treating it like a fact instead of a mere preference. No, I didn't. The (1) in my ID was correct, this was my first post in this thread.
>>1087436 >designed with your precise mentality No I don't, you're just projecting this onto me because your mad. >Again, beauty still exists Never said it doesn't. You're simply wrong about it being ugly on an instinctual level since many people aren't instinctively repulsed by it. None of the conditions which would override our instinctual repulsion towards trannies, i.e. decades of propaganda and social pressure from media conglomerates, apply here. Nintendo has not been spending years forcing everyone who likes the new design to like it. This is patently obvious >Trying to turn art into science is one of the biggest problems with art in the last century This claim is fundamentally incompatible with the existence of beauty. >Your arguments amount to the same ones that have resulted in the absolute destruction of western art in all its forms. No they don't. You're just jumping to conclusions and assuming I'm one of them because I disagreed with you. No different from a feminist calling someone a pedo because that person dislikes their tranny characters. >>1087411 In my opinion this looks better than the Bananza design because there's some space between his eyes. this is putting the line art and rendering aside of course. >>1087448 Well this guy >>1086991 didn't, and he's who I was replying to originally
>>1085753 This game will probably have costumes like Mario Odyssey, but aside from overalls what would DK wear? They may even dress DK like other characters since there were Luigi, Wario & Waluigi costumes in Odyssey.
>>1087500 Odyssey had some original costumes in addition to the references.
>>1087468 >You're simply wrong about it being ugly on an instinctual level since many people aren't instinctively repulsed by it. Some people eat shit and fuck their cousins. You know, like your parents. That doesn't mean that we don't have instincts against it. >None of the conditions which would override our instinctual repulsion towards trannies, i.e. decades of propaganda and social pressure from media conglomerates, apply here. Nintendo has not been spending years forcing everyone who likes the new design to like it. >He honestly tries to pretend that there aren't tons of brand loyalists, especially when it comes to console wars, especially when it comes to Nintendo. >This claim is fundamentally incompatible with the existence of beauty. No it isn't. Go and try to explain to me the scientific reason why a rainbow is beautiful. There is no objective scientific reason why St. Peter's is more beautiful than the AT&T Building in New York, but it is. >No they don't. You're just jumping to conclusions and assuming I'm one of them because I disagreed with you. It's because your argument is just arguing that if you can't come up why an objective reason why something is better, then it can't be better. But when you're talking about art, that falls apart. Shakespeare and (black lesbian feminist writer of the week) are both just writing letters on paper. Who is to say one is better than the other? It's subjective.
>>1087638 >Some people eat shit and fuck their cousins. You know, like your parents. That doesn't mean that we don't have instincts against it. And that doesn’t mean we do have instincts against DK’s redesign. You’re aware what a bad argument you’re making, right? <What? You don’t feel the instinctual obligation to give me a million dollars? Some people people eat shit and fuck their cousins, despite our instincts telling us not to do such things. Therefore you are just a mentally ill commie for not giving me a million bucks. Eating shit and fucking cousins are both tied to sexual disorders. No one has found and ties between liking DK’s redesign and any disorders, to my knowledge. >There is no objective scientific reason why St. Peter's is more beautiful than the AT&T Building in New York, but it is. Firstly, if you’re saying something actually is more beautiful than something else, regardless of personal opinion, then you are saying it is objectively more beautiful. Objective means personal representing facts not influenced by feelings or opinions. So even if you can’t explain why or how something exists, if you’re claiming that it actually exists then you’re claiming it objectively exists. Second of all, I would argue there are various traits all humans, baring mental disorders, find beautiful. Art snobs who pay millions for blank canvas do not actually find the blank canvas itself appealing to look at, they find the “theme” behind it appealing. But, as a most basic example, every human on earth would find a canvas with something on it more interesting to look at for its own sake than a blank canvas. So there’s definitely a degree to which beautiful is objective, but the exact degree is fuzzy. The example I provided is just a simple, unambiguous example. > It's because your argument is just arguing that if you can't come up why an objective reason why something is better, then it can't be better You didn’t come up with any reason why, you were just saying it is. At least the other guys gave some rational for their opinions.
>>1087638 >Some people fuck their cousins. Nothing wrong with that! >>1087648 >Eating shit and fucking cousins are both tied to sexual disorders. Fucking your cousin is not a sexual disorder. It's not even incest.
>>1087692 Congratulation for making the most obvious bait I've seen. Now go back to cuckchan.
>>1087701 >being this retarded
I'm going to extend one last olive branch and pretend/assume that you are just extremely autistic and aren't just baiting the shit out of this thread whether because you're defending corporate Nintendo or because you're just bored that you still can't post .apngs or some shit. >muh objective vs subjective Utterly irrelevant in this situation. There is no objective superiority between the sports of curling and American football. But if you bumped Sunday night football for the Ottawa curling championships people would riot. The other way around and literally DOZENS of people would be mildly annoyed. So objective? Subjective. Don't matter here. What matters is consensus. Also "tradition", of sort, I suppose. It's a design that's been with us for 30 years and there is zero good reason to change it arbitrarily. It's not even a Sonic Boom situation where it's a different continuity or something. If DK has continuity that matters in any meaningful way. Which it really doesn't. This is just another "Not in a million years." arbitrary change. >but muh DKC designer likes it better I don't care. His opinion is irrelevant. Same way I don't care about the opinion of Roll's designer about her or Mega Man stuff in general, for example. The last 10 or so years have killed any hero "worship" in the industry I might have had. I don't care about big names, people or developers. I care about the results. >but muh Miyazaki's original design 1) It's hardly his original design. It like more like adult Kiddy Kong than anything else. That's gong to be the reveal isn't it? "Cranky" is actually DKC Donkey and this is Kiddy or something like that? 2) Miyazaki is not infallible by a long shot. 3) Longstanding designs trump original designs, almost always. e.g. the versions of Ninja Turtles or Care Bears that you tend to see the most are neither their original design nor more current iterations. They're the versions that everyone remembers and identifies with the most. I notice you're really not given your opinion about the design and instead have been language policing everyone else's criticism. So why don't YOU actually declare your thoughts on it and then there could actually be a discussion, instead of you you just poking your head up and critiquing everyone's posts for logical fallacies, or whatever. On that note you've been making appeal to authority fallacies the thole thread. And why the fuck do you keep bringing up trannies? No one said anything about trannies before you did.
>Miyazaki Anon, you are legitimately retarded and none of your post is worth reading.
>>1087717 >extremely autistic Never got tested :^) <If you don’t agree with me you’re defending corporate Nintendo Incorrect. >objective vs subjective is utterly irrelevant in this situation Then you shouldn’t have acted like it was, which you objectively did. >What matters is consensus. Appeal to majority. >there is zero good reason to change it arbitrarily Doesn’t make the change itself bad. Plus DK is still recognisably DK, whereas the design of Donte is not recognisable as Dante without being told as such. >muh DKC designer opinion is irrelevant Never said it wasn’t. >I notice you're really not given your opinion about the design and instead have been language policing everyone else's criticism. I already said I personally thought the eyes were too close together, and that the new eyes-brows better lend themselves to expression. If you had read my posts as you claim to, you would have known. >On that note you've been making appeal to authority fallacies Incorrect. >And why the fuck do you keep bringing up trannies? Because most recent examples of redesigns that actually do look worse are cases of female characters being made to look like trannies. And it is important to preemptively point out why it would be a false equivalence to compare the two. I'm not going to extend one last olive branch and pretend/assume that you are just extremely autistic and aren't just baiting the shit out of this thread.
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>>1087724 >Miyazaki wewladdies This is my brain on Souls. Miyamato obviously.


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