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DONKEY KONG Anonymous 01/16/2025 (Thu) 20:38:12 Id: f555e3 No. 1061714
D K DONKEY KONG Which is the best Donkey kong game and why is it tropical freeze? More importantly, how come Nintendo hasn't made any DK games lately? I have pretty much given up hope of a 3d collectathon like 64 but having Retro hammer out another 2d platformer can't be too much of a hassle. Maybe just have a new studio make a whole new kind of DK game? There is a lot of things you can do with DK and his extended family.
>>1061714 Where does it ever say Chunky Kong is related to Donkey Kong? I thought he was just related to Dixie. It's weird if he's related to DK because then Diddy and Dixie have an incestuous relationship. I mean I know they're monkeys and wouldn't give a fuck, but still.
>>1061718 I have no idea. I just found the chart and thought it was funny. The wiki doesn't say anything about it.
>>1061714 Press F to pay respect.
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>>1061729 They un-bolted him, the squarish proportions steve mayle's is known has been entirely scrubbled. I must admit, nuts and bolts character design was too angular, but this feels like the opposite end of the problem. We'll get used to it I suppose
>>1061810 Yeah, that's how I feel as well. It's just weird making such a drastic design after so long.
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>>1061714 When it comes to the development of a new DK game, alot of rumors and speculation have been pointing towards EPD Tokyo as the new devs for the series going forward. Going by the 2D action game hiring that Nintendo posted back in 2020, that's most likely when the new game started development.
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>>1061840 <look up EPD tokyo >3d all stars >3d world >super mario odyssey. >mariomaker 2 What the fuck? Is there still hope for a 3d DK?
>>1061842 Unless it turns out to be EPD Tokyo's unique take on 2d Mario, I think the 2d game is the Donkey Kong game we're getting.
>>1061840 Wasn't the "new" DK game that was leaked just the Mario and Donkey Kong remake game from last year?
>>1061881 No, that was confirmed to be a seperate thing, mainly developed by NST. I think when Pyoro first leaked it, they made it seem like it was a new DK game, only to reveal that it was just a remake of a spinoff title on the GBA.
HE
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>>1085470 Looking forward to playing it in a year once I can emulate it.
>>1085472 >implying you will be able to emulate it
>>1085478 Probably not for another year or two, but emulation is inevitable
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>>1085478 Resistance is futile, Furukawa-san. You will be emulated.
>>1085470 Honestly this looks like a wario game more than a donkey kong game.
>>1085494 Yeah, I can see that
>>1061842 >>1085470 Hot damn they actually made a new 3d DK. Not sure if I want to get a whole new console just for it.
>>1085504 Yeah, I'm kinda surprised they didn't just make it a 3D Mario game again.
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>>1085470 If you listen at 1:47 when he smashes the triple banana they did the "Ohh Banana~" finish like DK64.
>>1085470 Where's Diddy?
>>1085706 in jail.
>>1085470 Everyone is loving the new monke girl
>>1085709 With Luigi?
>>1085715 Luigi was just moved to death row, don't worry he has en extra life.
>>1085713 Candy Kong is better.
>>1085719 I don't see Candy hanging around with a buttplug.
>>1085481 It will have to get thoroughly hacked first before people can even begin to emulate it so you'll be waiting a while.
>>1085728 What?
>>1061718 >It's weird if he's related to DK because then Diddy and Dixie have an incestuous relationship. Cousin relationships are not incestuous.
>>1085750 Cletus...
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>>1085753 So can I lay without the overalls? Asking for a friend.
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>>1061718 >>1085750 They’re monkeys.
>>1085753 So this proves Cranky was the original DK?
>>1085833 Do you honestly think Nintendo cars?
>>1085772 out of 10
>>1085772 They're apes, monkeys have tails.
>>1085867 Diddy has a tail.
>>1085867 Cladistically, apes, catarrhines, and extinct species such as Aegyptopithecus and Parapithecidaea, are monkeys
>>1085872 He does, which makes Donkey Kong a monkey's uncle. >>1085884 They're all primates, not monkeys. All monkeys are primates, not all primates are monkeys.
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>>1062044 He also voiced a wildboar in the shitty TMNT reboot.
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>>1086386 Mariobros...
>>1086389 4chan please return
>>1085713 I want to put my penis inside of her.
If you catch my drift.
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>>1086386 The game looks like Mario Odyssey tbh. I wonder if New Donk City will be reused at some point.
>>1086399 Probably made by the same team, I don't think it's a bad thing either since I wouldn't want such a talented group to be limited to Mario sequels.
>>1086404 Doesn't seem like it also WHERE ARE HER BOOBS?
>>1086405 Damn I hope she won't turn out to be a he.
>>1086406 I doubt Nintendo is that retarded.
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>>1086386 I don't think that's Pauline, she looks too young. That might be her Daughter, Niece or something. If Cranky and Pauline are the Original DK arcade characters, then it would be Cute to put the younger Generation together now. Cranky is in the game, so I'm pretty sure it's confirmed he's still the canonical original Donkey Kong. Pauline is also the mayor of a city now, she's wouldn't really go on such an adventure when she has responsibilities.
>>1086421 Maybe they made her into a child through the power of bananafuckery?
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Pauline is rpetty good. Would breed,. Breed. make m0ore kids. breed pauline,.
>>1086424 I would bananafuckery child Pauline, if you catch my drill.
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>>1086405 Probably a flatty or small tits compressed by her top.
>>1086404 Doesn't load for me.
>>1086459 >arrives home from doing whatever mischievous things evil monkeys get up to >lets out a sigh of relief as she lifts her tight top >absolutely huge badonkers flop out
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>>1086405 Most primates don't have enlarged mammaries unless they have offspring, and even then they are saggy.
>>1086524 Reality didnt stop them before.
>>1086531 They'd just ruin her like Twana
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>>1086524 Most primates don't surf, either. But that never stopped anyone.
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>>1086538 It could go one way or the other, Pauline is pretty Fateful to her earliest design, aside from the fact her smash bros trophy hints that she changed her hair to avoid being mistaken for Peach. Although it does beg the question of how much worse can you get then the 90's Canadian CGI Candy who was a huge bitch most of the time.
>>1086386 >>1086421 Some people are theorizing that the little purple gem companion is taking for form of Pauline, since DK is already fond of her. The “Young Pauline” is wearing a purple bracelet, so that's possible. Eyes are the same color, but also Pauline's eyes are already that color.
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>>1086386 >>1086421 >>1086631 >here's a new loli >it's a rock
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>>1086631 Damn they replaced Diddy with a rock.
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>>1087411 DK's earlier non-DKC illustrations for reference.
>>1085753 This game will probably have costumes like Mario Odyssey, but aside from overalls what would DK wear? They may even dress DK like other characters since there were Luigi, Wario & Waluigi costumes in Odyssey.
>>1087500 Odyssey had some original costumes in addition to the references.
>>1086405 Is this a villain monkey? Her whole design screams evil boss lady.
>>1087856 Yes, it appears so.
>>1087500 He would don a massive erection, inspired by the expand dong meme.
>>1061714 The DK in DKC is actually DK Jr. as an adult
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>>1087437 Little fun fact, that art of DK from KoS is actually a pre-release piece, this is the piece they used later on. Even funnier that the DKVine thought an employee from Paon was watching over the forums and listening to their complaints about the toothy grin.
>>1125225 Honestly I think Toothy Kong looked better.
>>1124462 I hope they retconned it to be that way, it simplifies things a ton
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>>1229936 I wish kongs were real instead of nig nogs
They've been gone for years. When was the last time we saw a kremling?
>>1308431 Its nothing new. This has been happening everytime someone makes it big and lose their old pals
>>1308431 >Gone forever? Nintendo likes to pretend they never existed at all, so unfortunately yes.
HE
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>>1308431 I don't think they're going anywhere, at least Diddy, Cranky, Funky, and Dixie. DK seems to be the only one getting the redesign treatment, Cranky is in the new game and he looks normal.
>>1308695 kys, retard
>>1308695 kys, retard
>>1308695 Creepy? The hell are you talking about? We just dont want duplicate threads.
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>>1086538 CB4 Tawna was good for jokes and memes.
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>>1310973 I really can't see how you'd prefer the dyed, side shave and a modest butt ingame to the original.
>>1308431 wonder if people who claim characters are "gone forever" realize the dk64 crew hasn't been in ANY game since their debut title
>>1385576 He looks uncanny
>>1386112 I hate it. I hate the teeth. I HATE KONGS WITH TEETH
>>1386112 Oh my god I didn't even notice that... what... why? was talking about dk though. But this isn't better
>>1308693 I wonder why though? If they're going with the redesign, and they obviously approve of it because they made it, then why not redesign everyone? It's kind of jarring. I would have been if Sonic Boom had redesigned Sonic but kept Amy, Knuckles, & Tails in their SA designs. Given the extremely minor design changes in comparison >>1385576 >>1386112 and Pauline being a young girl >>1392684 I more convinced than ever that this Donkey Kong isn't actually the same DK we've had since DKC.
>>1392976 >I wonder why though? Could be time travel shenanigans similar to the first Bayonetta. Adult Pauline was kidnapped by Cranky Kong in the original arcade game so her being a kid when she meets Cranky's grandson doesn't make sense. Maybe the bad apes pulled child Pauline from the past to mess with the timeline in some way so they can take over the world. The purple rock bracelet she's wearing could also be "locking away" her age, with her and DK going on a quest together to find a way to get it off and return Pauline back to normal. Items and places in Bananza seem to be locked behind these purple rocks. But the most likely scenario is that Nintendo of Korea just used outdated concept art for their promo from a build of the game where child Pauline was supposed to be DK's partner before they decided to go with the living rock, which would be a shame because I like the idea of Donkey Kong and Pauline working together.
>>1393687 I doubt she could have been scrapped this late in developpement, having a finished render and all. She's more probably a spoiler for later in the game and they changed their mind about showing her in promo material yet.
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No one talking about the direct? I thought the game looked cool.
I apparently missed Diddy and Dixie in the direct because it was like a split second.
So, for those who missed the direct: >Pauline IS Odd Rock, somehow she got stuck inside the rock and this is quickly resolved because she spends the rest of the game helping out DK >For some reason Pauline is a kid >She is being pursued by a trio of evil kongs named Grumpy Kong, Poppy Kong and Void Kong who run the Voidco Mining Company, and Void Kong specifically tells her to come back to him >Other characters from the series appear, including Cranky, Rambi, Dixie and Diddy >No explanation is given for where this falls on the DK timeline, the implications seem to be that Pauline is an anachronism >DK can turn into super powerful "Bananza Forms" from defeating bosses and helping out the elders that live on each layer, with the help of Pauline's singing >Their goal is to get to the planet core >Pauline is fully voiced, and sings several vocal tracks >DK Rap is back Here's Loli Pauline's armpit
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Rambi is back. I wonder if he and the other kongs will do something other than being background characters. I also noticed another monkey in the shot with Diddy and Dixie, to the right of Rambi. He might be another statute, like the Rhino statute on the left, or a generic NPC. But he might be more important if he's being grouped with Diddy and Dixie. I hope the game isn't too easy outside the ruins. The two player mode looks like it breaks the difficulty even more than the one with Cappy in odyssey, but it can also be fun breaking platforms player 1 is trying to jump on.
The Rambifications of this game for Donkey Kong Lore will be felt for generations
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>>1479465 >Pauline IS Odd Rock Why even make her a tick if you’re just going to reveal the twist in a direct?
>>1480856 To me it feels more like when they didn't show off Cappy transformations until the second look at Mario Odyssey.
>>1479411 It looked fun. Basically Hulk Ultimate Destruction but with apes. When the homebrew scene can install games and unbrick consoles then I'll pick it up on a used console.
>>1481298 And, uh, how are we supposed to do that on a Switch 2 exclusive game, anon? Did...did you think they cracked it already? You're gonna be waiting a long time on that I'm afraid.
>>1481001 A nice, even 1 decillion percent.
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>>1061714 I actually haven't played a Donkey Kong game since... Donkey Kong, and Donkey Kong Jr. When the fuck did DKjr become DK's father? Is this some "I am my own grandpa" shit?
>>1482977 "DK" from Donkey Kong Country is Donkey Kong III. Cranky is DK's grandpa, Donkey Kong I. This implies DK Jr., AKA Donkey Kong II, is DK's dad, but I don't think they actually said that anywhere. I guess theoretically he could be DK's uncle, but that's silly.
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>>1483516 Could you even imagine a game where you play an innocent nude loli? It would be the cutest fucking thing but the screaming would never stop from certain quarters.
>>1483691 Nudity is a crime.
>>1483691 I swear, the absolutely obsessive way some of you niggers talk about loli when it comes to literally any thread or subject makes this site borderline infuriating to use some times. video games
>>1479465 >DK Rap is back Does it have the line about Funky Kong or is HE forever removed? >>1483691 Your words are an affront to my sanity
>>1484248 I've seen them compared to furries in that regard I don't believe loli = pedo but the obsession some lolicons have with it does make me double think.
>>1484155 Only in modern times.
>>1482977 >>1482993 >>1482977 No, the current DK is DK Jr. There is nothing to yet confirm that he is "Donkey Kong The Third", this concept of "DK III" does not exist in the games and has not happened, it's just some retarded fanon that people mistake as canon. The only thing they're basing this off of is that Cranky sometimes refers to himself as DK's grandpa which would make him two generations removed, but everything seems to indicate that he is actually DK's father. He calls himself the grandpappy of Diddy and Dixie as well even though that would make them DK's cousins when they are not related.
>>1483516 BANANZA TIME EXPANDED
>>1485119 I thought Diddy was DK's cousin. Or was it nephew? Either way, it is less weird for your great grandfather to say he's your grandpappy than it is for your father to say that. Dixie is Diddy's girlfriend, but they're monkeys, they wouldn't care about fucking their cousins. And Dixie is related to Kiddie, Tiny, and Chunky Kongs. Cranky can be everyone's grandpa.
>>1485717 Either way there is no indication that current DK is "DK the third" or that such a thing exists. This is, again, entirely fanon. It makes more sense for current DK to just be Junior. Calling Cranky "grandpa" has less to do with his actual place in the lineage and more to do with his elderly appearance.
>>1485741 I always assumed that Jr was Donkey Kong and Cranky is the og Donkey Kong. I think grandpa is just referring to his old age more than anything.
>>1485741 Dixie and Diddy also make the 3rd make no sense. I think people should just accept Pauline is a kid in this because Nintendo don't give a fuck about continuity. Especially when it comes to Mario and Mario-adjacent things.
>>1485922 Pauline is a kid most likely because she got de-aged due to magic. The same magic that turned her into a rock. The Mario/DK universe is a happy magical drug trip, weird stuff that occurs in it has its own way of making sense. Besides, Nintendo's rather fond of the de-aging trope. It wouldn't be the first time.
All I know is that Kid Pauline implies the existence of Kid variants of all the other main characters, and that they're going to be added to Mario Kart as DLC simply to pad the roster. We'll have Baby, Kid, and Adult variants of every main character in the series, and the Kid variants will likely show up all in their own new spinoff game in the Mario series. Make it… I dunno, what would it be? I like the idea of Kid (not baby) versions of all the characters doing child-like things on a "smaller scale." Building secret bases and Kid Bowser destroying them?
>>1486113 They already explored this plot idea in Yoshi's Island DS.
>>1483516 Nice.
>>1485741 It's not fanon since Cranky is referred to as DK's grandpa many times. That's where it comes from, as you acknowledge. That's straight up not fanon. Now, if you want to say they just didn't give a shit, I buy that. But the other factor here is that Modern DK is not DK Jr. If you have a problem accepting the stated fact that Cranky is DK's grandpa, then you should have an even harder problem accepting that DK is DK Jr., since that's never ever stated anywhere. Would it make sense? Should Rare have just said Cranky was DK's dad? Yes. But they didn't say that. And to top it off, there's also Baby Donkey Kong, who is clearly not DK Jr., unless Baby Donkey Kong is Baby Cranky Kong. (Idk. I never played that game.) >>1485916 >assumed Exactly. And I wouldn't be surprised if the people at Nintendo did the same. But if something that is stated is "fanon," then something that isn't stated is more fanon.
You know, it's pretty fascinating just how similar Bananza is to Harmony. Maybe Nintendo liked the idea, and decided to use it as the basis for the new DK game.
>>1489825 >It's not fanon since Cranky is referred to as DK's grandpa many times. That's where it comes from, as you acknowledge. That's straight up not fanon. Now, if you want to say they just didn't give a shit, I buy that. But the other factor here is that Modern DK is not DK Jr. If you have a problem accepting the stated fact that Cranky is DK's grandpa, then you should have an even harder problem accepting that DK is DK Jr., since that's never ever stated anywhere That's literally fanon, you fucking retard. Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong. He has a son named DK Jr. The current Donkey Kong is descended from Cranky Kong (DK Sr.) This is all we know. Therefore, as far as we know, current Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong's son. The fact that Cranky is referred to as "grandpa" is again, not really relevant to anything. It appears to be entirely based on Cranky's elderly appearance and not his actual place in the lineage. Nowhere, at ANY point in the games, is "Donkey Kong The Third" ever mentioned or even alluded to as a concept. The concept of a "DK III" is ENTIRELY in the realm of fanon. You don't disprove fanon by making more fanon, you absolute dipshit. Until Nintendo themselves says otherwise, current DK is DK Jr.
>>1491689 He is literally the third Donkey Kong. That's not fanon. Cranky is his Grampa and he is consistently treated as a different character than DK Jr. grown up. Now is he ever referenced as being DK Jr. Him being Cranky's son is fanon, as it's not stated anywhere. Would it make more sense? Would it have been better? Yes. But it's literally fanon. I never said "Donkey Kong The Third" was some sort of official name, as your use of quotation marks implies I was saying. I did refer to him as DK III, because he is literally the third DK.
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>>1484397 Did somebody say HE? Please tell me I'm not the only one that caught this
>>1491769 >He is literally the third Donkey Kong. That's not fanon. Yes it is. "Third donkey kong" is an entirely fanon concept, jackass. It has never been mentioned nor confirmed and as far as we know current DK is DK Jr. You are basing the idea of current DK being a DK III entirely on the fact that Cranky refers to himself as grandpappy (DK never refers to him as such).
>>1494001 I don't think that's HEm. He has style, and while his grace might be low, it is definitely there. His face, however? Is rather funny.
>>1491509 I doubt it but it IS what I was thinking as well.
>>1494675 Yes, it's not true HE, but the costume is unmistakably based on him. I actually appreciate the amount of nods to DK's history shown off so far, while the game seems to be maintaining itself as its own thing.
>>1494658 He's never treated as DK Jr. at all. You'd think they'd reference it somewhere, but instead the closest they get is Baby Donkey Kong, who is decidedly not DK Jr. >>1496830 That's why it's fun. Sonic lore is relatively boring because they actually tried. Donkey Kong lore is funny because it's absurd that there is any. Or maybe there isn't. But that's the point.
>Nintendo reveals Pauloline >All discussion of DK's bad redesign ceases
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>>1483691 I would love this so much. >>1484248 There's the door. Fag.
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>>1499310 Diddy's happy because he's getting a lot of his charges dropped. >>1484155 Tell my next door neighbors, who let their 1 and 7 year olds run around naked in their yard. In the middle of the fucking city.
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>>1560584 Is it out already? I haven’t paid attention to the release date.
>>1560584 Nice to see the Kremlings back. Still not sold on the rest of the game, but at least King K rool looks good.
Edited last time by Wardog1 on 07/15/2025 (Tue) 04:44:38.
>>1560584 Please mark your spoilers.
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>>1564663 Is this game actually good? I mean good as a Donkey Kong Country/64 game rather than just in general.
We got an interview with the devs, with exclusive behind the scenes: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2025/July/Ask-the-Developer-Vol-19-Donkey-Kong-Bananza-Chapter-1-2871377.html As usual, Nintendo did start with the gameplay before deciding to use donkey kong. The development started on switch 1, but that didn't have the power to run at 60fps and have some big interactions with the environment.
>>1562072 Wasn’t there a study several years back that proved spoilers have no effect on one’s enjoyment of a piece of media whatsoever?
>>1566449 Yeah but people still don't like it. They think it impacts their enjoyment of the work even if, on average, it doesn't. That means it impacts their enjoyment of the context in which they encountered the spoilers.
>>1566449 If it's a story heavy game, then yeah spoilers would ruin it.
>>1566730 The study I've heard of was about movies, where it's more story focused than games. Turns out people that had the movies spoiled for them rated them the same as people who didn't have them spoiled.
>>1566741 This sounds like a case of people still being able to appreciate a work in its full context, even if the emotional toll of an unexpected plot twist is absent. In this game's case, I don't think the existence of the Kremlings would meaningfully take away from the overall experience of the game. It just takes away the excitement of another addition to what's in no small part a love letter to the Donkey Kong franchise as a whole.
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>>1564663 >>1566848 This was as big as I could get it in the file limit. I'm no ffmpeg wizard sadly.
>>1568288 For some reason, this just seems way too easy. Nintendo is really terrified of challenging games.
>>1568516 In fairness this is more of setpiece in between two actual fights though I can't speak to their difficulty.
>>1568522 It's the same problem as TOTK. There's way too many set piece fights. The fight with Samuraidorf wasn't terrible I guess, but the pacing was completely ruined by that obnoxious Draganon fight.
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I want this game so bad but I am not paying those absolute fucking niggers 800 Canadian for it. I'm just gonna wait, not too much longer until they have the Switch 2 emulators working, and then fuck you Nintendo I'm never paying for your tismoslop games again.
>>1568885 >not too much longer until they have the Switch 2 emulators working You have way more faith than me...
The idea that revealing something in a game is “spoiling” it is a meme. People who get mad at spoilers only do so because they chose to. They will themselves to enjoy it less.
I would've liked to enjoy DK Bananza without spoilers, but I just ripped the bandaid off considering that I am not going to be able to play it for some time and it's better to just get it over with instead of agonizing over it for however many months/years it'll be before I get to the play the game, if I ever do at all.
>>1569120 Probably for the best. People are reporting quite a few performance issues in the game, despite the Switch 2's improved hardware. So waiting for an emulator might be preferable. If you really like a game, spoilers won't bother you at all. At worst a small plot twist here and there gets ruined.
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It won't happen, but I hope the original Switch game is leaked from a server breach or something. I don't want to pay $450 for software that wasn't lovingly specialized with that Nintendo home made magic, I love DK but I can't help but feel displeased with the technical direction, I would've loved to play this with VRR for a truly immersive feeling. I don't care about DLSS, but docked mode should have made use of it, what a waste of good technology. If we're getting an inferior experience out of neglect, stubbornness or incompetence, then I might as well wait years for a Switch 2 emulator and hardware revision instead. If the hardware features become a paid upgrade for 10$ then I'll lose my shit as the game being 70$ would've been used as a ruse to fleece people out of the definite hardware experience I would rather get a new processor and emulate everything now, and wait for a new S2 hardware revision and homebrew, so I can then enjoy something similar to the peak overclocked OLED model. I haven't been spoiled, not actively avoiding spoilers, but I'd rather experience it myself in the best, most pristine, orgasmic quality possible, and that's with better hardware that makes use of all features and technology. The spoilers will at least not be a letdown for the creaming I've heard about it.
So, the game's been out for a couple of days, and I just wanna talk about the plot a bit. The anachronism of Pauline just is never explained, huh? And it is very much an anachronism since Cranky clearly mentions his past rivalry with Mario, as well as Diddy and Dixie referencing the events of the original DKC trilogy. Though Pauline mentions her grandma several times, we never actually see her, and at the end of the game we just see Young Pauline being a busker and later a performer when you beat the last challenges. This shit doesn't make any fucking sense. How is this Pauline when Cranky kidnapped Adult Pauline in the original Donkey Kong? They're just gonna leave this unexplained? I'm willing to bet either this is a set up for a DLC chapter or they're just never going to explain it in typical Nintendo fashion like "try not to worry about the plot too much." FUCK YOU, YOU SLANT-EYED HACKS. DON'T FUCK WITH ME, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO WORRY ABOUT. Explain this shit or fuck off! Since none of this makes sense I guess I'll formulate a new theory that this is not the Pauline we know from the Mario/DK games but is in fact the daughter of Pauline from Mario Odyssey. It's weak but it's all I've got right now.
>>1576626 Jumpman and Mario are no longer the same person apparently. So I guess you can surmise that was Grandma Pauline, Cranky and Jumpman. Though in fairness Nintendo was actually directly asked and they just shrugged so they don't really care.
>>1577329 I will never understand why loretists are so attracted to Nintendo, a company that very openly does not care about lore. People argue about Birdo\Catherine's gender when it's whatever the fuck the game's devs want it to be at that moment. It's really bad with Zelda, a series with no coherent timeline no matter how much its fans nag Nintendo into its half-assed attempts at creating one.
>>1577329 >>1578548 Donkey Kong kidnapping Pauline is pretty basic stuff. Far from "Deepest Lore" territory.
>>1566449 The spoilers did lessen my enjoyment of the game, not because of the returning character, but because I knew at Void Kong's boss fight that he wasn't the last boss, ruining the surprise of their being another world to explore.
>>1582063 >ruining the surprise of their being another world to explore. In fairness, everything after final Void Kong fight is just a gauntlet.
>>1578548 Something must fill the void after Kingdom Hearts.
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>>1582545 Haha what are you talking about KH4 is right around the corner haha Haha Ha
>>1582545 >>1582624 Please do not "fill" Sora's "void", even though he very cute.
>>1569744 Being completely honest with you, it's going to be an inferior alpha build that's basically what EA showed off of the dead space remake when it was first announced (literally a sandbox UE5 prototype). The devs quickly abandoned the switch 1 version after it was moved up to the switch 2 as a launch title.
Can't believe I had this compressed for so long yet I just sat on it without posting it. Still doesn't do much for removing the stench of cuckchan, blerg >>1568288 Why is it that people shit on actually compressing video, <durrrr it take too long <durr just post JewTube then when they actually try it themselves, <uuuuuuuuuh I squashed it to the size of a postage stamp hope this gets in under the file limit
>>1576626 I still find it funny how Nintendo pretty much said "who gives a shit?" when asked about why Pauline is 13 years old in the game. I think the Pauline the 3rd theory is fine. Especially if Jumpman is now Mario's granddad. >>1582624 >>1582545 >KH4 >Being a real game lol
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>>1583096 Don't you understand, it's real!
>>1582624 People who like Kingdom Hearts should rope
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>>1578548 Assuming you're talking about the type of loretists that post 5 hour lore vids on Elder Scrolls or Witcher or Baldurs Gate, loretists don't get attracted to nintendo as much as nintendo breeds it's own brand of loretists. There's entirely too many nintendo fanatics out there, many autists among them who hyperfixate and overanalyze EVERY minute trivial detail over their favorite things so shotgun principle alone causes a handful of loretists to spring up, but nintendo autists tend to go miles deep down the rabbit hole. For a lot of those types, lore for a children's game series is just one element that they lose themselves in. Just look at what they cooked up on old 8/v/
>>1583223 >People who like Kingdom Hearts should rope Oh they do anon. They fire off thick ropes 4 or 5 times a day thinking about the shota characters.
>>1578548 Its fun.
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>>1583840 I prefer Kairi, Xion, Namine and Olette.
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>>1569353 >People are reporting quite a few performance issues in the game, despite the Switch 2's improved hardware. The game actually runs pretty well on the Switch 2 hardware and only has performance hitches at rare specific times. First pic is the only time so far the framerate died on me (even then it was something along of 30fps) and it's specifically because of these moving rings of terrain Void Kong is summoning (alongside of enemies), since those are actual terrain features you interact regularly in the game, not objects. Warping terrain is MUCH more costly on a game engine than just moving an instance of an object. It's also worth to mention all the terrain destruction and alterations remain in the level even if you go at the different upper/lower floors, they only disappear once you actually leave the level.
>>1585232 Should run well when emulated on a good pc, no?
>>1585232 >tfw I understand pic 4 after looking up ハクジョウ Baby steps, this language. No frame drops so far but I'm only in the canyon layer. Taking my time in case the five hour playtime claim proves true. I regret prioritizing sonar as even maxed out it doesn't go as far as I thought.
>>1585312 The framedrops come when dealing with large amounts of objects like in the final boss fight and when grinding gold by taking if from a specific trophy.
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>>1582873 Sora is the one who fills holes.
>>1585440 I forgot smash had such milf+shota energy.
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>>1566449 I heard of that too, though I wouldn't say that any lone study in the social sciences "proves" anything. But yes, spoilers are one of those things that are only as bad as you make them out to be. It's like getting woken up in the middle of the night by a loud noise. If you get mad about it you're only going to make it harder to go back to sleep. If you shrug it off like it's no big deal you'll be asleep again before you know it.
>>1578548 >It's really bad with Zelda, a series with no coherent timeline no matter how much its fans nag Nintendo into its half-assed attempts at creating one. No. Donkey Kong lore is largely ironic. Tthere's a degree of it for real, but I think all the fans, even the ones who analyze it, do so with a hint of irony, knowing it's largely based on jokes and creators that openly dislike complex stories). Zelda lore is a whole different thing. Almost every Zelda game makes very clear how it relates to at least one other Zelda game. So I'm gonna be the loretist this time. >Zelda I First game. >Zelda II Direct follow up to Zelda I. >Link to the Past Actually not really clear in the game itself, but this is weirdly one of the few entries in the series nobody acts confused about. It's a prequel to the first game, and the box and manual say so explicitly, including in Japan (even though the Japanese title doesn't refer to "past" at all). >Link's Awakening Manual explicitly says it's a direct sequel to Link to the Past >Faces of Evil/Wand of Gamelon/Zelda's Adventure Obviously not canon but if we were going to say it was then it's clearly intended to take place after Zelda II. So are the Zelda cartoon and Captain N, and the Game & Watch, and the Game Watch. They're just chronological because they were made before Link to the Past or by people who didn't care. >BS Zelda I know, shouldn't even count, but it technically has a story and clearly takes place shortly after Zelda I, maybe after Zelda II. >Ancient Stone Tablets Has a bit more of a story, explicitly shortly after Link to the Past, and mentions that Link is off on an adventure, clearly Link's Awakening. >Ocarina of Time Very obviously has you play out the backstory from the intro of Link to the Past. The ending is different, and fans in their head chalked it up to the legend being corrupted over time (because no past Link was mentioned in the Link to the Past intro, even though that game already introduced the first past Link), but it turns out later games would make clear that, no, Ocarina is a prequel but also you're supposed to take everything in it literally. All the previously released games are sequels to Ocarina, but in a timeline where you lost to the final boss. Kind of silly, but it does all fit. >Majora's Mask Direct sequel to Ocarina. >Oracle of Ages/Seasons A little less explicit, but by the end it's a prequel to Link's Awakening, and therefore a sequel to Link to the Past. >Wind Waker Direct sequel to Ocarina, but confused people because it's a sequel to the other timeline created in Ocarina, which fans probably just didn't think about before. But it is clear here if you just take it all at face value and don't try to headcanon it all into one timeline (even though you still sort of can at this point). >Four Swords It's a side game added as extra content in a handheld remake of an old game. So yeah, this one doesn't make very clear where it is on the timeline. But it could fit pretty much anywhere. >Four Swords Adventures Multiplayer focused spinoff sequel to side game extra content in handheld remake. Has a story, but doesn't get terribly explicit on where it goes in the timeline. But Ganondorf has reincarnated so it takes place after he died in one of the other timelines. And Nintendo officially said it takes place after Majora's Mask (and the later released Twilight Princess), but I don't know if there's a particular reason why. >Minish Cap Prequel to Four Swords. The Four Swords games are somewhat disconnected from the rest, being a spinoff side series, but this one clearly takes place before Ocarina of Time. >Twilight Princess Explicitly follows Majora's Mask. And this is probably where people started getting really confused since now they're jumping between two different timelines, and this makes it so Majora's Mask really can't lead to Wind Waker without even more headcanon than fans were doing before, but if you take everything at face value, then it works. >Phantom Hourglass Direct sequel to Wind Waker. >Spirit Tracks Direct sequel to Spirit Tracks. >Skyward Sword The whole point is that it's the first game in the timeline (so far), taking place before everything else (even though it alludes to even more legends further in the past). >Link Between Worlds Direct sequel to Link to the Past, but long after Link's Awakening (but seemingly before Zelda I). >Triforce Heroes Another multiplayer spinoff with barely any story, but could pretty much fit anywhere. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to figure it's just a direct sequel to the previously released game, Link Between Worlds. But it's a multiplayer spinoff. >Hyrule Warriors For some reason they say this isn't canon, but it actually makes future games make sense. It's explicitly a sequel to Twilight Princess (and presumably Four Swords. Hyrule Warriors seems to take place quite a ways into the future). The story involves the Wind Waker timeline merging into this timeline, which explains major things from the next game. >Breath of the Wild Explicitly ten thousand years since the last time Ganon showed up, so at least ten thousand years in the future of any previous game. There are both Zora and Rito in the game, even though they're alternate timeline versions of each other, but the timelines merged in Hyrule Warriors, so it works.
[Expand Post]>Age of Calamity Lets you play the backstory from Breath of the Wild, 100 years before that game. And then actually it creates a different timeline. But still, its placement is extremely explicit. >Tears of the Kingdom Direct sequel to Breath of the Wild, but gets confusing for some people because it references new backstory about the founding of Hyrule. But again, I think if you just take it at face value it makes enough sense. Hyrule didn't exist in Skyward Sword, but it did in Minish Cap. So this backstory takes place between those two games. >Echoes of Wisdom Okay actually I just beat this one and I don't remember if it has any major clues on where it would go on the timeline. Kind of kills my whole argument. I think Nintendo says it's after Triforce Heroes but before Zelda I, but I couldn't tell why other than it being the first handheld style spinoff since Triforce Heroes. But only this game and the multiplayer handheld spinoffs don't make extremely clear where they go. The vast majority of the games in the series do.
Again, I don’t see what’s “deepest lore” about Pauline having been kidnapped by Donkey Kong. It’s like saying Donkey Kong being an ape is deepest lore, or him being named “Donkey Kong”.
>>1591840 >but gets confusing for some people because it references new backstory about the founding of Hyrule. You can simply say that a new Hyrule Kingdom was found after the previous one was long gone. That would be a stretch for any other franchise, but in The Legend of Zelda, where it’s explicitly confirmed in multiple games that there are multiple people throughout history being named “Link”, “Zelda” and “Ganon” all fulfilling the same rolls, it’s peanuts. It’s actually funny how much of a non-issue this is.
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>>1591840 Or, more likely, the Zelda games simply aren't connected and that's the end of it. Nintendo claims that they are to get lore autists to shut the fuck up but in reality they don't care and just write whatever whenever they want. >The legend of Link, Zelda and Ganon had persisted for thousands of years yet no one ever mentions the previous incarnations and Hyrule is stuck at the same level of technological development that entire time >Obvious massive shifts in geography, culture and people that make absolutely no sense within the timeline these games are supposed to take place in >Even the characters themselves have nothing to do with each other and perpetually contradict their own lore Yeah, all these games are self contained and only idiots claim otherwise.
>>1591976 No, you're not getting it. Everything I said is explicit in the games themselves, except for the few times I say "Nintendo says..." (which I did specifically to highlight the few times when the connections actually are not clear and could be argued to be bullshit). There is no way you can play both Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time and not understand how they're connected. It's incredibly explicit. Every single game in the series has extremely explicit connections to at least one other game, except for a the handheld multiplayer spinoffs, and Echoes of Wisdom. This stupid bullshit you're saying is just propagated by people who don't play the games. Many of them are just direct sequels to the last game released before them (Zelda II, Link's Awakening, or Majora's Mask), and the rest are still explicitly clear but not following directly from the previously released game, like how Wind Waker begins with a long opening cutscene going on and on recapping the events of Ocarina of Time (and then explains it even more later). Link To The Past is explicitly a prequel (even though, yeah, this one has fewer connections. Good thing they just come right out and tell you), and Ocarina of Time is just obviously playing out the backstory from Link to the Past's opening cutscene. I already explained all of this. I don't see how you can not understand it. >The legend of Link, Zelda and Ganon had persisted for thousands of years yet no one ever mentions the previous incarnations Yes they do. A previous Zelda is mentioned as early as Zelda II. The Zelda in Zelda II isn't the same one from Zelda I, but a previous version that was sleeping for generations. It's all there in the manual, and in the NES era, you were expected to read the manual for the story. Previous Links are mentioned several times. Wind Waker goes on and on about the Link from Ocarina of Time. The Link from Ocarina of Time appears in Twilight Princess. Spirit Tracks talks a bunch about the one from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, and Link Between Worlds does the same about Link to the Past (these games are just direct sequels but generations later). There are also other Links alluded to in the backstories of several games that didn't actually have their own games yet. Minish Cap and Skyward Sword both seem to allude to previous Links we haven't seen, for example. Previous incarnations of Ganon are mentioned in Breath of the Wild, and previous times Ganon appeared are mentioned many times. Ganon rarely reincarnates. It's usually just the one from Ocarina of Time being revived (not reincarnating). Link to the Past explicitly talks about how Ganondorf became Ganon and was sealed in The Golden Realm, then Ocarina of Time lets you play that backstory. Wind Waker goes on and on about the events of Ocarina of Time and how Ganon fucked shit up, was imprisoned, and then in this game he gets out. Twilight Princess does pretty much the same thing but in the other timeline. There are also reincarnations of many other characters but they aren't as special so nobody cares. >Hyrule is stuck at the same level of technological development that entire time Your idea of progressivism is a modern invention and one that most cultures throughout history would not agree with. If anything not agreeing with progressivism makes Zelda a more authentic fantasy story, since most fantasy stories have settings that don't assume progressivism. Would you read Lord of the Rings and get mad because Middle Earth is shittier (and no more technologically advanced) in Frodo's time than it was in the past remembered by characters like Gandalf and Elrond? Even the ancient Romans thought of themselves as living in a shittier time than their own mythical Golden Age a few hundred years earlier. >Obvious massive shifts in geography, culture and people that make absolutely no sense within the timeline these games are supposed to take place in Actually, this is one that they're surprisingly consistent on, even though they don't need to be, given that changing the geography is pretty much just a gameplay necessity to keep the location fresh (even if it's lore wise the same location). Breath of the Wild took some pretty significant liberties, some of which bug me, but usually the core geographic features, like Death Mountain, Zora's Waterfall, Lake Hylia, and Gerudo Desert are all in the same spots. Another interesting thing is that Kakariko Village does move around, but not only is this acknowledged explicitly in Twilight Princess, with Old Kakariko Village (a ghost town), but actually, as they kept making prequels, they put Kakariko in the place that was the graveyard in the previously released game. The graveyard from Zelda I is Kakariko Village in Link to the Past, and the graveyard from Link to the past is where Kakariko is in Ocarina of Time. The village keeps moving and leaving graveyards behind. Also, there's the famous bit where all of Zelda I's map is a tiny little section of Zelda II. Zelda II's map is just more zoomed out. The later games, though, usually actually zoom in more. Link to the Past covers less geography than Zelda I, the far east of Zelda I is cut off. But the major landmarks all line up. Even Wind Waker bothers to put things in the right spot. Death Mountain is the most obvious one, being the volcano island in Wind Waker. The Great Deku Tree is in the right spot (even though it's a descendant, not the same tree). There are a bunch of little examples but you clearly don't know anything about Zelda and wouldn't understand the references. Breath of the Wild does move some things in ways that bug me. Death Mountain is too far east and Spectacle Rock is in a totally wrong spot. But that game takes place in the distant future, so I can allow some sort of cataclysm that would change the geography, like in Lord of the Rings. Or I can chalk it up to gameplay being more important than story. Actually keeping landmarks in the same spot is ridiculous detail that they never needed to do, but they actually did, for some reason. >Even the characters themselves have nothing to do with each other and perpetually contradict their own lore I'm struggling to think of examples. Feel free to try to name them, but since you didn't realize that Ocarina of Time is playing out the backstory of Link to the Past, it's obvious that you're just talking out of your ass.
>>1591976 >yet no one ever mentions the previous incarnations and Hyrule is stuck at the same level of technological development that entire time Like the vast majority of fantasy settings >Obvious massive shifts in geography, culture and people that make absolutely no sense within the timeline these games are supposed to take place in Like most videogame series >Even the characters themselves have nothing to do with each other Except they reference prior iterations several times, even prior to Skyward sword. Badly written sure, but they objectively aren't self contained.
>>1594975 Diddy and Dixy were revealed in a direct. This isn’t even a spoiler.
Edited last time by Mark on 07/23/2025 (Wed) 00:57:13.
>>1592067 I remember reading in a Japanese magazine of nintendo (it was translated by a fan) in which they mentioned that the location of the sword in A link to the past is the location of the temple of time in Ocarina of time and that since it is relatively close to hyrule castle the town is in between if you ignore that the name is kakariko village and is a little further away and ruins a little the rest of the map references maybe If you look at it that way it makes sense but it doesn't make sense to the logic of the map. that means that the forest became a more or less populated area near the town and hyrule castle and that they built a temple around the sword in the forest. i find it curious that Kafei from majora's mask is the representation of link in Termina and in link a between worlds the representation of link is Ravio. they have similar colors, i guess it's an inversion of the color palette or something like that. >Also I had always believed that ocarina of time was just link to the past only that the sword now allowed to travel to the world of darkness, I never found sense to that of time travel although of course link ended up locked in the camera and traveled in time. But well many things don't make sense and are created on the fly to be nice with the game and that's it. Although the original ideas of Zelda 1 that were futuristic passed to breath of the wild. I didn't play the last games, I lost track after skyward sword although I liked the 2D-3D games like link a between worlds. I have no interest in playing breath of the wild or future Film-Drama-Cinema games, it does not feel the same.
I only now discovered where Rare got the line "He has no style, he has no grace." It's from a song that's literally called "Master Race Rock." Skip to 0:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHRy6_nFyPs&ab_channel=TheDictators-Topic The song is obviously ironic, but it's still funny to think that line in a children's game came from a song with that title.
>>1595040 Ocarina of Time is incredibly explicit with its time travel. The game has a very explicit story in general. You don't go to The Dark World because The Dark World doesn't even exist in that time. It's a key plot point in both Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time that The Dark World is created when Ganon goes to the Golden Realm, which doesn't happen until the very end of Ocarina of Time. The game is so full of time travel that not only do characters age and die and remember things that you did in the past, but you can even plant beans and then go to the future to see how they sprout. Breath of the Wild takes place in the distant future, but isn't that futuristic. Spirit Tracks is the most futuristic, since it has steam power. It's practically industrial. But Breath of the Wild is over ten thousand years after that. Society has restarted, maybe multiple times.
>>1594990 MARK, I LOVE YOU!!!
>>1592067 >A previous Zelda is mentioned as early as Zelda II. The Zelda in Zelda II isn't the same one from Zelda I, but a previous version that was sleeping for generations. It's all there in the manual, and in the NES era, you were expected to read the manual for the story. Very few people bring up how weird this is. This means by the end of the game there's two Zeldas alive and active at the same time and in the same incarnation of Hyrule.
>>1595209 >Master Race Rock Fitting for the side game.
>>1595850 The weird part is that they say she's the original Princess Zelda, which doesn't work perfectly with the lore. Later official materials (but not the games themselves) say she was just an earlier Zelda but not the first. Later Zeldas were named after her, but there were also previous Zeldas, and apparently that was just fate. Zelda isn't even a princess in Skyward Sword, since Hyrule doesn't exist yet. But to be fair, this is pretty much the biggest contradiction in the series' lore. Unless you say that Zelda II Zelda IS Skyward Sword Zelda.
>>1595368 The ancient civilization from Skyward Sword was super futuristic and advanced. Probably the most of anything in the whole franchise.
Diddy and Dixie are in this game.
please use spoilers
Edited last time by Mark on 07/25/2025 (Fri) 17:29:14.
Why did this turn into a Zelda thread all of a sudden? Donkey Kong? Bananaza? Anyone play it? What are your thoughts on the game?
>>1601693 It's okay. Just feels like another 5/10 Nintendo game, IMO. People overhype it, but I guess there's nothing wrong with it. Real problems lie in the lack of challenge, the bananas feeling too much like koroks and Odyssey moons, Pauline is a constant annoyance, and the "destroy the terrain" gimmick feels a little shallow. Like they just slapped it onto the game without really incorporating it. Same issue that TOTK had with the vehicles feeling like they were slapped on, thus completely ruining the idea of traversal.
>>1601817 Haven't played it yet but that's in line with my impressions of it going by the gameplay I've seen. It looks very gimmicky. Also very ugly. Guess there's no point trying to make a location that looks good if you expect players to tear giant holes in the terrain first chance they get.
>>1603765 It's actually really good. 9e3d3e is just being a faggot
>>1604551 If you like it, more power to you. but I hate games that ask you to "make your own fun", and I despise Pauline as a character down to her concept. Sidekicks are just maximum cringe, especially if they love to talk.
>>1604551 Could you at least explain what you like about it?
>>1604575 It's a Donkey Kong 3D Platformer done right. There's a good balance of movement and punching shit, on top of being able to actively shape the terrain of each level, additionally it's not super easy either. Basically it feels like a mix of Odyssey and Hulks Ultimate Destruction with a bit of Memecraft thrown in.
>>1604661 Sounds good to hear that you enjoy it, even if I ultimately disagree.
>>1604661 You're not really selling me on it if "not super easy" is one of your points of praise. Sounds like a 7/10 game; something good, maybe great in a few areas, that falls short of the complete package.
>>1601527 Mark Mann, this is fundamentally NOT a spoiler. It was revealed publicly to millions in a Nintendo Direct. You might as well say that Pauline being in the game is a spoiler.
I got all bananas. It took me 45 hours. It was fun, but not very challenging outside a few end and post game challenges.
>>1605322 Would you describe it as monkey business?
>>1605489 No, it's ape business!
>>1604715 Yeah, to each their own. I personally had a ton of fun with it. >>1604833 It's absolutely a must buy for a Switch 2 since the only real games for the platform right now are DK and Mario Kart World which they gimped due to people having too much fun in the online with randos.
>>1606319 > It's absolutely a must buy for a Switch 2 That’s a weird way of saying “It’s absolutely a must pirate for a Switch 2 emulator”.
>>1618421 There's a Switch 2 emulator already? I can't find anything about it. What's it called?
>>1618626 Its called "Diddy and Dixie appear in Rambie's Racing in Donkey Kong Bananza, which is not a spoiler because Nintendo put it in the ads".
>>1585440 Can we do double vaginal while we French kiss?
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