>>1063490 (OP) >However is it "wrong" for a game to not include fanservice in some form? I would have to answer yes. If you mean that in the broadest sense, I completely agree.

>THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO RAG ON RAZORFAG So it is then. >there seems to be this increasing narrative that vidya is not "allowed" to have any sort of cheesecake or fanservice in the title. And any game that "does" have this content "must" be a shit game by default This is in response to one guy in the gamergay thread talking about how porn games tend to have shot gameplay. You are clinically autistic.

You didn't need all those pointless wordswordswords and a ragebait tweet from a homosexual to post a thread about vidya asses.

>>1063497 The reason that most erogames have shit gameplay is that they are built around the concept of "game over into lewds", VNs, dating sims, strip card games, & lewd breakout clones not withstanding.

>>1063497 >This is in response to one guy in the gamergay thread talking about how porn games tend to have shot gameplay Did you actually read the thread? This has been a convo in gaming as of late.

>>1063490 (OP) >>1063498 >>1063499 >>1063500 Aesthetics Matter, Let’s not pretend otherwise: certain games are defined by their aesthetics. When a game’s entire appeal revolves around sexy character models, revealing outfits, and striking visuals, changing those elements fundamentally alters the experience. It’s like complaining about the violence in Mortal Kombat—the over-the-top fatalities were the selling point. Take that away, and you’re left with a mediocre fighting game that wouldn’t have stood out in the first place. The same principle applies to games like The First Descendant. Razorfist and Melanie Mack don't understand that Censorship Strips Identity (or maybe they do and they're just so high on their newfound righteousness they don't care). that's sadly ironic if they truly are trying to be modern Christians while staying even remotely aware of today's political climate. If The First Descendant ends up censoring its characters, what are you left with? A bland clone of better games. The flashy designs, the boldness, and yes, the sex appeal are what make it unique in a crowded market. Strip that away, and suddenly, it’s indistinguishable from countless other titles. Sometimes, aesthetics are the content. They’re not just an afterthought; they’re the core of the project’s identity. This is why games like Marvel Rivals draw so much attention—and controversy. It leans heavily into showcasing beautiful characters in skin-tight outfits, often framed with cinematic flair (read: ass shots). Whether people admit it or not, this level of visual appeal sells. If you tone it down to appease a broader audience, you lose what made the game stand out in the first place. And let’s be honest: Overwatch lived off this same energy. Sure, it had solid gameplay, but how many of us joked—or outright acknowledged—that its popularity was driven as much by its sexy character designs as by anything else? The memes about Overwatch porn weren’t just memes—they were a reflection of how heavily character design influenced its cultural footprint. There’s nothing wrong with games embracing their identity, whether it’s ultra-violence, sex appeal, or any other extreme aesthetic choice. Not every game needs to be all things to all people. Some projects thrive because they double down on a niche appeal that resonates with their audience. Diluting that to chase broader acceptance usually just alienates the core fans while failing to draw in a new crowd. We've already seen this happen to games like Dead or alive and senran kagura, and countless others I'm forgetting the names of.

>>1063506 > Overwatch lived off this same energy. Sure, it had solid gameplay I'm not sure that it does. If by solid you mean functional then yes. Overwatch is one of the games ever made. >>1063490 (OP) >One infamous game guilty of trying to sell itself solely on cheesecake was BMX XXX, and it failed horribly as the game itself was terrible. It's a mystery why it had to be that bad. That should be easy. Like making a basic skateboarding game but instead of making the player characters urban dudes you make them skaterthots instead.

>>1063506 >korean games >identity Lmao >It’s like complaining about the violence in Mortal Kombat—the over-the-top fatalities were the selling point. Take that away, and you’re left with a mediocre fighting game that wouldn’t have stood out in the first place. >e.g. sexy outfits are a band-aid for mediocre games. This is the worst defence of lewds not sure why you feel the need for one in the first place I’ve ever heard.

>>1063514 >Overwatch lived off this same energy It’s baffling that he would even use this as an argument either. And what does he even mean by “let’s be honest”, everyone knows overwatch was only good for porn. I would call him a normalfag, but even they are aware of this. Where did this guy come from?

>2019 >"male" and "female" in character creation >incredibly well detailed pantsu on female party member Where did it all go wrong?

>>1063517 >Code Violet Maybe they just don't want other people to mod in a better looking character. Although it's nice to see that alien girl from that old PS2 ad is still getting work after all these years.

>>1063530 Thanks. The hangup on vidya fanservice is entirely an Amerilard and globohomo issue by how a large portion of them were Christians too radical for Europe to stand (also Jews who hate beauty) and the Hayes code making creatives retarded and mentally stunted. If you really want to be cynical about it, essentially fanservice is a marketing tactic that raises the chances of a product financially succeeding but doesn't necessarily guarantee success. The past few years of globohomo artificially constricting the sex appeal of games has conversely created a space where anybody who goes against the grain gets a free uncontested monopoly. See: Snowbreak, a gacha that right now is actually considered an upcoming Genshin Impact competitor in China of all places, or Brown Dust 2, which is growing in Korea. Vidya got the chance to prove it could do without that stuff and it blinked, because there will always be demand to cum inside of Ryoubi. I mean, what are you going to do if your artist has to study and perfect the craft of alluring female designs in his pursuit to hone his skills, not use it? By virtue of plain economics some artists have to draw erotic stuff to get people to pay at all for their work, and great character design often comes from drawing loads of loads of bishoujo. RAITA was known for a doujin series about a guy emptying his balls into magical girls, but drawing that stuff also helped him draw other stuff like tanks and cool military uniforms, so he got hired for Valkyria Chronicles, then helped Fate/Grand Order to blow up, and some unused character designs got spun off into Katawa Shoujo. That's just one artist, mind you, many IPs were originally porn that graduated into something more, like the titan that is now Fate. And it's not just fictional women; good male character designs in games are also moneymakers in getting women to open their purses that Asia has had more time to perfect since they never had a moral panic instigated by Jews and leftists. People don't want to look at sheboons and hitting-the-wall whores who make a mockery of sex, sometimes they just want to look at beauty. That's why "go watch porn" is pushed so heavily, (((they))) want you to degrade yourself burning your retinas on their shallow sleaze instead of looking at something better like a depiction of a healthy relationship. The explosion of live services and focus on monetized cosmetics exacerbates this more. You can try to kneecap your competitors with under-the-table agreements to not make sexy skins like Mihomo tried to do, but that all goes kaput the moment some desperate indie disobeys those agreements (again, Snowbreak). It's just free market competition at work. The instant the dam breaks you will have to fall in. If anything, antagonizing fans of fanservice is going to hurt you more than not, just ask TeamKill preemptively teamkilling interest in its Dino Crisis clone by kvetching about ero mods on PC. It's telling that Tumblr stopped being a containment zone for BPD women the moment the pr0nz got nuked. Also I hereby invite the strip mahjong enthusiasts and the DOAXVV regulars from cuckchan over here since they're the only good content left there. Also, dump thread. Beach art here >>986760

>>1063523 The thing is that this decision is directly connected to Sony's war against fanservice that they totally don't regret.

>>1063536 I wouldn't be surprised if there's a turnaround from that over the course of a couple of years. Either that or they'll ride the PS5 to hell. One or the other.

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>>1063541 Anon deleted his own post to correct spelling errors but his copy past failed so I reposted his text and then after he remade his post I deleted the superfluous post I had made.

>>1063533 >how a large portion of them were Christians too radical for Europe to stand How so?

>>1063514 Maybe I'm giving OverWatch a little bit too much credit, it did popularize the "hero shooter genre" and I think it proves my point that aesthetics matter probably more than anything. Gameplay can always be serviceable as long as the aesthetics of a game appeal to its audience. That doesn't necessarily mean the aesthetics have to be technically complex or even beautiful (by traditional standards) but they still have to appeal to the audience in some shape or form. People have been making lewd Minecraft mods for years so I think it's just the human mind in general will find a way to lewd something even if the game has no real lewd elements to begin with. People will always find a way to sexualize something. Which is why I think it's pointless to worry too much about female characters in video games being sexualized. It's going to happen, fighting against it just means you're fighting your audience at some point. >>1063514 >making the player characters urban dudes you make them skaterthots instead. That would have taken way more thought than whatever was put into that game, somebody would have actually have cared to come up with the idea you just mentioned. instead of reusing animations and assets from older games in the series and sticking a bunch sexy pictures (even that's debatable) of girls in random places. I never played any of the games in the series myself so I don't know if they were even worth playing before that infamous sequel came out. Wasn't that activision? Pretty sure even back then they were known for putting out mostly garbage with little to no effort. A sexy extreme sports game in the vein of dead or alive Xtreme volleyball would actually be pretty cool. As long as the game play was solid and the aesthetics were good. >>1063516 >>1063518 Whether it’s violence or sensuality, stripping these elements away often results in something bland and forgettable. Games, especially ones with strong aesthetic identities, thrive on their visual choices. Watering them down doesn’t just neuter the content This is especially true for many Korean, Taiwanese, and Chinese games. These titles often have a distinct identity rooted in their visuals, fan service, and design choices. Whether people like it or not, these aesthetics are what draw players in and keep them engaged. Take away the sexy or violent aspects, and you’re left with something generic. Even Japanese games (outside of Nintendo) have long embraced a little lewdness or fan service. It’s baked into their DNA, going all the way back to the Famicom era. Remember Street Fighter 2010 from 1990? Sexy posters in the background weren’t just filler—they added personality to an otherwise dull level. Removing those small details makes games feel sterile, and let’s face it, boring. aesthetics like these exist to make games more entertaining. It’s the same reason violence works in games, it adds excitement and intensity. Have you ever played a Christian video game? Or watched a Christian movie? Often, these works are so focused on being inoffensive that they strip out anything remotely exciting, resulting in content that feels mundane. There’s value in that kind of content, sure, but it’s undeniably less captivating. I don’t understand why some people like RazorFist or Melanie Mack frame lewdness in games as a moral crisis. Are we really concerned about modesty in video games that aren’t even targeted at Christians or conservative audiences? If we’re using theology to critique game content, that’s one thing, but if it’s rooted in sociology, the argument becomes even murkier. Suggesting that women will become more promiscuous because of a costume in a video game sounds no different from Anita Sarkeesian blaming bikini chainmail for real-world sexual assault. Neither argument holds water. Are they really worried about modesty, or is this just another form of moral panic? Games aren’t causing real-world problems by including these aesthetics whether it’s a skimpy outfit or over-the-top violence. They’re offering entertainment and escapism. If we strip that away, we’re left with sanitized, forgettable content that appeals to no one. (That's why the industry is dying)

>>1063549 >I don’t understand why some people like RazorFist or Melanie Mack frame lewdness in games as a moral crisis. Are we really concerned about modesty in video games that aren’t even targeted at Christians or conservative audiences? If we’re using theology to critique game content, that’s one thing, but if it’s rooted in sociology, the argument becomes even murkier. Suggesting that women will become more promiscuous because of a costume in a video game sounds no different from Anita Sarkeesian blaming bikini chainmail for real-world sexual assault. Neither argument holds water. There's still an undercurrent from the old "moral majority" right that runs through conservativism. It mostly doesn't pop its head up anymore because they are fighting way more desperate battles and because the sensible conservatives know that the younger right, as well as the broader coalition they've built up, would be driven away by them. Don't be too surprised though if they crop up again and cause a headache for Republicans that are trying to fix shit and have no time to worrying about banning rock and roll, titties, and video games.

>>1063549 CA is so fucking hideous in art, man. I'm glad this meme mostly died off a few years ago

>>1063553 The thing is, as much as anons and even those sensible conservatives will admit that porn is a net negative for society, even on here everyone knows (((who))) runs porn and the agenda they push with it. But the thing is no one knows what to do about it?

>>1063518 >Where did this guy come from? Unironically reddit.

>>1063561 Redditors, please don't use commie marxist terms like "ally", it really doesn't look good.

>>1063549 >Whether it’s violence or sensuality, stripping these elements away often results in something bland and forgettable. Games, especially ones with strong aesthetic identities, thrive on their visual choices. Watering them down doesn’t just neuter the content As has been said, if your defense of violence or sensuality is that a game is "bland and forgettable" without it, all you've said is that a game is so bland and forgettable that it needs tits and/or gore to break even. And consequently, you make tits and violence appear as a signpost of blandness forgettable-ness. All these things are subjective anyway, unlike a lack of harm which is quantifiable. >Take away the sexy or violent aspects, and you’re left with something generic. That brings the obvious objection can easily be said that if everything is sexy then sexy is generic. I don't get why you're complicating the issue. If something is harmless then its harmless. Writing long essays like this just makes you look desperate your turn. Are you the sonicfag?

>>1063549 >Have you ever played a Christian video game? Or watched a Christian movie? I've read Christian books, and they were more captivating than 99% of what came out in the past 50 years. If it matters aught, they had no lewds either.

>>1063567 Really shallow arguments to make especially when they hold no water in practice. >That brings the obvious objection can easily be said that if everything is sexy then sexy is generic. Except we've had the past few years to disprove this, where its absence was felt, so clearly it's bullshit. >your defense of violence or sensuality is that a game is "bland and forgettable" without it, all you've said is that a game is so bland and forgettable that it needs tits and/or gore to break even You're being pedantic. If you cannot depict sex you cannot depict relationships, that means no romance (the Comics Code Authority did precisely that and that's why female readership is pigeonholed into capeshit). That means if you design a character like Shiki technically not her but whatever you can't have her backstory of being an aspiring fashion designer because she's wearing a trendy skirt and exposes her midriff to highlight the top she wears, that has sexual implications and is a no-no even if it's not intended to invoke anything sexual. If you cannot depict violence you can't even have animals eating plants. Think about what you're claiming, even Math Blasters incorporates violence to entice players.

>>1063575 >>1063577 I saw that.

>>1063578 Don't care, what I wouldn't give for an edit feature here, although niggerpill and CP spam ruin that possibility.

>>1063580 Yeah. God, I miss Senran Kagura.

>>1063559 Aside from the whole issue of censorship, cheesecake is not the same as porn. >But the thing is no one knows what to do about it? More like they aren't willing to go as far as needed to fix it so instead they take an extreme shortcut and say >No more sexy pictures! >Now you'll HAVE to nut up and be a man and restore trad society! That's not how it works. Like how nofap is suppose to be some secret gateway to confidence but instead just ends up with people jackin' it to Chris chan and deer. If you want to do what they want to do then they would have to approach things holistically. Which is large part would require telling women to get out of the job market and back into the home and also no voting and ALSO wear attractive but modest clothing AND we're bringing slut shaming back ESPECIALLY if you're actually being a slut. That is an absolute no go for even the most trad Republican in the US. Modern conservatives would instead go on about actually we're the real feminists and we're protecting women from male tranny violence. They would really like it to be the past but they don't have the actual will to even suggest a path back there because they don't want to alienate voters and they, as badly as they are loath to admit it, are as addicted to post modern society as the left is. They've got the barest aesthetics of traditionalism but they aren't traditionalist. So no I'm not giving up video game asses and anime tits to solve the social problems of America anymore that I would give up guns and the right to self defense in order to deal with the violence problems in America. Because neither of those things would work and would just make me more miserable.

>>1063490 (OP) I like lewd and I will not be shamed by sex negative puritans on either side for liking it.

>>1063583 >pic 5 GIVE US THE DEATHBEAD SMALLS FOOTFAGMAN! We'll take it even as a helmet.

>>1063582 Your post is very wise. I wish more people saw it this way.

ITT: post attractive vidya women.

>>1063553 I can understand a little bit if it's sort of a think of the children kind of argument but then again if they're worried about children playing games with lewdness they should do a better job of talking to their kids about the kind of games they should play, and then again if some video game characters but or boobs is going to do something evil to the youth then I think we have bigger problems as a society. Because I don't know how you can ever protect people from ever seeing butts or boobs forever. If it's not about think of the children and it goes back to the modesty thing, video game women aren't real so modesty really shouldn't be a problem for them. Especially if the game is being made by and for non-christians (then again maybe Christians are like Communists and need the whole world to bend to their will at some point) I still don't think God or Jesus would really care though in the grand scheme of things. but once again maybe I just don't understand the priorities of a religious person. >>1063556 CA? >>1063559 But video game boobs and butts made by Koreans aren't pornography right? If anything I guess it's "eroticism" I remember a lot of paintings having nudity in them... And I remember this one nun that was like an art scholar and she didn't seem to have any problem with the nudity. I feel like she really wouldn't have any problem with the outfits in the first descendant or even stellar blade. >>1063570 Could you give me a few names? I'm always interested in reading something decent. What did you find particularly captivating about these works? >>1063577 Something as simple as Street fighter 2 has both violence and lewdness in it and it's one of the most popular video games ever made and practically solidified the fighting game genre as we know it today. Even with Capcom trying to pander to Western wokeness they know they can't completely sterilize their games. Street fighter 6 while probably being one of the worst games in the series (in my opinion) still pays homage to the same simple formula

>>1063588 >CA Chromatic aberration, that ugly effect put over images that make it looks like you need to wear 3D glasses.

>>1063588 >maybe I just don't understand the priorities of a religious person. Their priorities are getting rid of anything that "offends" God, but they can't even accurately define what offends God in the first place! Nudity is not porn. Nudity is natural, created by the very God they believe in. I just don't believe that Christ would have made a big deal about nudity in art and media (at least if it wasn't pornographic, homoerotic, etc.). Christians have been completely captured since the early 1900s anyway (see the current GG thread's discussion about the Scofield Reference Bible and dispensationalism).

>>1063588 >what did you find captivating about lotr You’re full of shit.

>>1063490 (OP) >that vidya is not "allowed" to have any sort of cheesecake or fanservice in the title This isn't even remotely new. Faggots have been whining about fanservice since at least 2011.

>>1063577 >Except we've had the past few years to disprove this, where its absence was felt What makes you think it’s absence being felt when it is not common does disproves it is generic when it is common? In fact, I recall criticism of the abundance of boob windows and the like in vidya characters back before gamergate was even a thing. Not that it should matter how popular something is. >If you cannot depict sex you cannot depict relationships, that means no romance What do you even mean by sex? Because you can depict relationships and romance without showing sexual intercourse, nudity, revealing clothing, or even kissing. >you can't have her backstory of being an aspiring fashion designer because she's wearing a trendy skirt and exposes her midriff What? There’s countless varieties of clothing that do not show the midriff or even the ankles for that matter. You could easily convey someone is a fashion designer without “sexual implications”. >you should be able to depict things with sexual implications if you want to Maybe that’s what you should be focusing on then, instead of whatever this is? >If you cannot depict violence you can't even have animals eating plants >Math Blasters incorporates violence to entice players This is extremely pedantic, not to mention a blatant strawman. >Think about what you're claiming What I was claiming is that your feverish, stream of consciousness, “arguments” are fucking retarded. <if your defense of violence or sensuality is that a game is "bland and forgettable" without it, all you've said is that a game is so bland and forgettable that it needs tits and/or gore to break even. And consequently, you make tits and violence appear as a signpost of blandness forgettable-ness. This does not say “you can’t depict sex or violence”, it says your defence of it is shit. I don’t think you’ve been thinking about what either of us have been saying. And while some people may not care if what you say makes sense so long as it’s on their “side”, I do.

>>1063582 This is the only true response, and exactly what I was about to reply. Thanks for beating me to it and doing so more eloquently than my over-tired self is capable of.

I don't mind games with no fan service or even the woke slop AAA has been making, they can go and make whatever they want, i'm not gonna touch it, but if that's what they want to do, sure, whatever. What irritates me is people complaining about the games that do not appease to their opinions, EA can make their gay simulators as much as they want, but devs also has the right to make games full of fanservice just as much. In the same vein, gaming should not be beholden to censure or any form of opposition for tackling weird or uncomfortable ideas, no dev should be forced to tailor their vision/idea based on a set of rules decided by a small cabal of idiots somewhere in california.

>>1063632 I agree with you, and I think the issue right now is that publishers and game developers can't make the games they want to make since the platform holders (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) are too strict with their standards.

>>1063588 >then again maybe Christians are like Communists and need the whole world to bend to their will at some point At that point, your problem isn't the religion. It's the people using the religion as a club to subjugate everyone who disagrees with them. Buddhists have just been as guilty of violence against non-believers as the Christians when you look into sects like the Nihchirin Buddhists in Japan who favored open warfare. >I still don't think God or Jesus would really care though in the grand scheme of things They do, that was the ENTIRE point of Job. That we're suppose to love and serve God of our own volition, not out of fear of being punished nor for the purposes of gaining favor. >but once again maybe I just don't understand the priorities of a religious person. Saving yourself from eternal damnation and trying to improve this world as a result? >>1063622 >You could easily convey someone is a fashion designer without “sexual implications”. No, you cannot, because the point of fashion is to enhance the dimensions, look, and appeal of the human body. >if your defense of violence or sensuality is that a game is "bland and forgettable" without it, all you've said is that a game is so bland and forgettable that it needs tits and/or gore to break even. Consider something like strppers and pole dancing. In average, the girls performing the shows haven't an ounce of talent when it comes to rhythm and actual technique, yet even the best traditional dancers can at the most liberal estimates make only HALF as much as your average stripper. And the dancers making that much are the musical theatre casts you see on Broadway. In addition, an argument can also be made that the games that are "bland and forgettable" for lacking violence and sex shows that creating works without that content requires the creator to then put in even more effort and talent into everything just to create something just as memorable as games wtih that content. >>1063636 >publishers and game developers can't make the games they want to make since the platform holders (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft) are too strict with their standards. Do you not remember Sony putting out a game with a tanny sex scene and it being one of the biggest games that year it came out?

More importantly if you want a new game that has a lot of cheesecake then play Unicorn overlord. In fact even if you don't like cheesecake you should play it, it is good.

>>1063654 >In fact even if you don't like cheesecake you should play it, it is good. It is, I don't even know what cheesecake means but liked Unicorn Overlord.

>>1063646 >Do you not remember Sony putting out a game with a tanny sex scene and it being one of the biggest games that year it came out? That's because it was a first party game, third party developers are having issues making ecchi games due to the restrictions made by the big three and the restrictions on the market.

>And any game that "does" have this content "must" be a shit game by default No, "must" implies absolute. Games being usually shit if they're horny-bait is a correlation, not causation, because that's usually the reason the developers make it horny bait, it's usually to entice players to play the game, not out of some artistic love for the medium and just genuinely wanting to see huge asses like that developer/animator we had in 8prime. Just look at all the Korean MMO bullshit with characters, shitty gachas, some eroge, etc. And I don't mean "Oh, it has jiggle physics, nice!", I mean shit like women's asses being gigantic, wearing skin tight suits, and stuff like that. Basically porn, but with game mechanics. A good game can arise while still having those? Yeah, sure, but a lot of things go into games to make them more attractive for new players, to get them bought, and one of those things is lewdness. I just find lewdness to be very basic and uninteresting, and because of how much it hacks our primate instincts, it almost feels like cheating. >Now personally, I disagree with this take. If a game is good, what exactly is the problem with including fanservice in the title? This is backwards, if the game is good, it does not matter if it's horny bait or not, you're already playing it because it's good. If Senran had absolutely shit gameplay, you'd still manage to play it for the art and lewdness because it's charismatic and has a clever story, but as you reduce it all to the point it's just jiggle physics, huge tits and nice models, and everything else is generic, then the game is just a vector for porn and it should be judged as a bad game. A game like that is just horny bait, it still attracts people because it's horny bait, and because horny-bait is a lot easier to achieve than making a good game, there's just a clear correlation of bad games still managing to be horny bait and attracting players based on that, and again, if your only defense of a game is that the characters are hot, then that's just a shitty game.

>>1063671 Not by Nintendo besides Idea Factory since a shitload of hentai and ecchi games have released on eShop since without a peep of censorship, like Ecchi Blast Vol. 1.

>>1063675 I agree with the point you're trying to make. But it must also be said that a game that deliberately does the opposite also happens to almost always be shit. All those games that make the women ugly on purpose tend to be shit in all other regards as well. In fact, they're worse. And the fact that they literally hate beauty doesn't help. That said, I still await the day when we get an actually good porn game. I don't just mean a game that's good and also horny. I welcome that, but we can do better. I want a game that integrates the porn with the gameplay as a core aspect of the game that couldn't be removed without completely breaking the game. Not that the gameplay isn't good, but that the gameplay itself is so intertwined with the porn that they cannot be divorced.

Men aren't going to give up pornography because it's a symptom of a bigger issue at hand- that being they are totally disillusioned with society at large. >>1063567 That image is the true autism limitus test because man, I can't help but feel extremely uncomfortable when looking at it. >>1063654 Isn't that game translation cucked in the english release?

>>1063723 It wasn't cucked just badly translated. Like they didn't change a line to be politically correct just rewrote it to be more flowery. The translation isn't the result of malice but incompetence.

>>1063676 True, although the game seemed to release fine in Japan only for some reason or another.

>>1063519 >using Code Vein as a positive example of this Funny. One of the first problems I noticed with the game was that the character creator was censored, and the proof is right here in >>1063627. Try to make a character with tits like that. Protip: you can't. The decision to nerf maximum tit size in the character creator when the characters weren't nerfed is baffling and was definitely a sign of things to come from Bamco.

PROTIP: Male heterosexuality is healthy & good. Anyone who disagrees while pushing for suppression can fuck off & die. There's no debate to be had with faggots & puritans. Hetero men will not retreat from our indelible nature. Ever.

>>1063632 Yes, this is the real issue. >>1063646 >They do, that was the ENTIRE point of Job. That we're suppose to love and serve God of our own volition, not out of fear of being punished nor for the purposes of gaining favor. But what does that have to do with nudity in media?

<<1063842 >Many who agree won't admit, because who wants to argue with arsehole-gazing essayists raving about Joe Lieberman because they deny their porn addiction? <Almost everyone agrees with me! ...Huh? Why don't they say so? Uh, well, because... they don't want to talk to people who like attractive women, of course! And have you seen the long posts they write filled with facts? I wouldn't want to argue with them either! And when they point out the censorship that politicians try to mandate? It's all because they're addicted to porn, not because censorship is problematic!

>>1063654 >>1063664 Unicorn Overlord got an unpozzed translation and retarded shriekers were still mad because the translation wasn't literal.

I have no idea why my tiddy post was deleted while the others weren't >>1063850 People who want "literal translations" often don't even know what that means. I can speak some Russian, literal translations of Russian often don't make sense and come out bizarre. You get sentences like "the sandwich has been formed and we fuck the butter". Equally if you were to literally translate the English sentences "Let's not beat around the bush, it's raining cats and dogs out there and will be forever at this rate. We have to bite the bullet and just get drenched." into other languages, it wouldn't make sense. However, weebs are right when they notice their localizations can be bad and outright alter the entire context of scenes. There's that infamous Fire Emblem scene where all dialogue has been replaced with "..." in the English version. What they really want are translations that are faithful to the source material and don't throw in a bunch of millennial writing and America-isms, and they mistake that for literal translation.

>>1063854 You might've gotten caught in the crossfire of the christian thing. I'm not sure which post was yours as I refreshed.

>>1063850 Why are you lying? The translation changes the tone of the original script into this Shakespeare tier bullshit.

>>1063490 (OP) I seriously dislike how artificial this how whole controversy of Melonie being a freaking prude over a character making a simple dance in a game got her panties in a twist. Sometimes one has to be very careful on who you're following, because you don't if that faggot can be a grifter or a charlatan in order to suit his/her agenda. Wasn't she "once" a leftist before? >>1063675 The "horny/gooner-bait" complaints that I mostly hear is from the gacha-sphere when they see female characters that can be dressed or act kind of lewd to attract a lot of dudes. Like Snowbreak and Azur Lane for example. My complaints is that some devs will use this tactic as a cheap way to attract players, because they don't improve the game's experience like balancing the gameplay or adding a new interesting story-line to continue with the main story. I heard that Snowbreak's new chapters are incredibly uninteresting that the devs had no choice but to use fan-service as a leverage to keep its player-base from dwindling.

>>1063854 >You get sentences like "the sandwich has been formed and we fuck the butter". This phrase is awesome, and though I've never heard it before, and speak no russian, I understand the meaning immediately. This is a perfect example of why localizers can be too liberal, not too literal. Someone like you would change this phrase needlessly, and lose much of the meaning.

>>1063881 >I understand the meaning immediately. What the fuck does it mean?

>>1063863 >adding a new interesting story-line to continue with the main story. I heard that Snowbreak's new chapters are incredibly uninteresting that the devs had no choice but to use fan-service as a leverage to keep its player-base from dwindling. >I heard So while that may be fine as an opinion, it should be noted the game recently had to emergency-rewrite itself because an update was entrusted to a writer who proceeded to out himself as a feminist ally, because the Cultural Revolution in China promoted gynocentrism to help overthrow the government back then and it still lingers even as it's gotten crushed to stay competitive, just like South Korea is infected with harpies. Also, it's universally agreed the game at the same time it committed to reorienting itself around fanservice had its writing significantly improve with Kang Kang assuming head writing duties, which directly disproves what the cuckchanners are complaining. For reference, the first ten chapters were written when the game was trying to vie for general audiences, and every player hates the initial launch campaign to the point the game's staff have said they'll look into rewriting it into the future. It's worthy noting it was composed by the same writer who wrote for Wuthering Waves at launch which also got roasted. Anyways, >campaign is a slog >the protag is a passive "camera character" in an attempt to copy the Traveller from Genshin Impact >the story plods along loosely introducing banal concepts and factions that aren't that interesting When KangKang started writing, in the same update that Katya was introduced, Checker Squad was revealed and several dynamics got turned on their head. >Suddenly the protag and his squad had to deal with temporally displaced soldiers as enemies >Said soldiers had more than justified grudges against their employers...who are also employing you >A squad member finds her lost father who also got temporally displaced and loses him all over again >The squad gets to explore an open map >The antagonists are flipped from Ymir and Edda to the Board of Directors the protag works for, the Titans are now a result of experiments from them to try to gain immortality globohomo-style >Said Directors try to get the protag whacked and launch the new storyline where he and the squad hunt them down The next arc had the player playing through a James Bond/Metal Gear Solid arc as he gets caught up in an espionage affair in another country. After that, Cherno, who used to be considered one of the worst characters with a boring "split personality" schtick, was reinvented into a meta character and one of the most beloved with her backstory of being an Adventist figurehead resolved; her update notably marks the definitive turnaround of the game to being undoubtedly a success. After that, the New Hentiro arc came out with an anniversary celebration and introduced Rozan as an antagonist while additionally reworking characters like Lyfe, Fenny, and Siris, and introduced canonical marriage with a solid basis to continue on. The new story direction is infinitely better because it gave Snowbreak a distinctive identity beyond <it snows <we're going to have a bunch of girls based off world mythology <we're going to reference Norse myths like a gazillion other games The game also improved in technical performance after tata got added, it used to run like shit but now has better QoL than competitors. As for the recent story being "boring?" <TL;DR feminists who are China's DEI hires keep exposing and outing themselves after the game changes direction trying to own the chuds, posting publicly about throwing away cakes fans sent in appreciation and sneaking in digs that have to be removed; it's suspected they were a big component of why the game was so shitty at launch as they were paid during its initial development <they get fired by Seasun <they form really gay Megalia-style circlejerks shittalking and smearing the game because the cheesecake triggers a cuckchan reaction in them <they report the game to state censors which results in the game having to censor itself twice <one of them manages to not spill their spaghetti and when KangKang is really busy with the now-soon-to-release new anniversary event they get assigned to write an update <proceeds to write it in lowcowlulzation style explicitly aiming to piss off as many players as possible and get the devs arrested by referencing the Tiananmen Square massacre; basically a Wizard101 <KangKang has to fire the writer and emergency-rewrite it as well as damage control, this also affects the story arc going forward because the writer used male NPCs in their sabotage, meaning they couldn't appear any more for goodwill >we are here So I would heavily discount any dismissal of the story's quality, given it breaks so many boundaries as a market force-changer in CN. Retarddit in particular on account of being infested by so many cucks hates muh no male characters (and thanks to the sabotage they got their "wish") and ranted for several months on how it wasn't making money. Lo and behold, vid related. >$140M USD in profit for a year >13M users <to keep its playerbase from dwindling Not exactly Genshin Impact or Love and Deepspace numbers at 50+M but there's a reason I kept bringing this game up in #GG threads because it proved once and for all fanservice is connected to game quality. Even now it impacts other CN titles. >GFL2 >>1047130 had swimsuits at launch for Global, and Japan and Korea came out to buoy them to $20M >Tower of Fantasy, GFL2, and Azur Lane are introducing dorm systems to compete with SB; in general SB's dorm mechanics seems to have really made an impact >Wuthering Waves ALSO went the waifu route >Zenless Zone Zero essentially "got permission" to push the ladies like the devs wanted to do before mandated censorship, and an update intended to censor assgazing got reverted SB healed a country's industry in a watershed moment. Also reminder we have a gacha ghetto >>1034975

>>1063883 I'd imagine it's something like "You made your bed, now lie in it"

>>1063884 >t proved once and for all fanservice is connected to game quality From reading your entire point, I wouldn't say that it's fanservice that is connected to a game's quality, it seems to me that it had its shitty experiences because of shitty writers and a dedicated team of outsiders having any say in the direction of something that they don't understand at all. Still, it's a fucking gacha, fanservice IS the game. You play gachas because of the waifus, the mechanics to date them and give them presents and see them being cute, you don't play it for the gameplay lmao. Of course if you improve the fanservice there the game will improve, THAT'S THE GAME.

>>1063848 >Why don't they say so? Perhaps because Mark keeps deleting their posts whenever they do?

>>1063921 >Perhaps because Mark keeps deleting their posts whenever they do? You know good and well that's not happening. Out.

>>1063850 >Unicorn Overlord got an unpozzed translation and retarded shriekers were still mad because the translation wasn't literal. I don't exactly care if you play the game in English, you're entirely free to do so in fact. Just don't try to lie or make up excuses for the TL's quality

>>1064005 People to tried to say it was as bad as Fates or Eiyuden Chronicle and that is simply a lie.

>>1064007 It's still bad, if not as extreme as the examples you cited yourself, because it's regularly changing the script to sound like ancient English (despite the game is originally written in a straightforward Japanese vernacular) while it's obvious the people in charge never did read a single old literature work to pull it off. Plus it does change the tone and intention of the characters.

>>1064005 Both you and your boyfriend GTFO to the GG thread and stay there

>>1063990 >he says when the post he originally replied to was deleted by mark.

This thread about vidya cheesecake doesn't have enough cake.

>>1064023 Did 13 Sentinels ever get a proper translation? A non-pozzed one, that is.

>>1064030 As far as I know it hasn't gotten a re-translation.

>>1064019 I don't intend to post more about translation hijinks since that's obviously not the thread for that, but I still wanted to correct the anon on the false claims Also you're gay

>>1064038 Absolutely sick. I heard that their next game is going to be a action RPG and I am very much looking forward to it.

>>1064038 That's not the REAL Andromeda!

>>1064020 And? Take your false correlations somewhere else, you stupid faggot. I don't care if the post was deleted, the only time anything like that gets posted is when we're raided by cucks, as was happening yesterday in both this thread and the GG thread.

>>1064061 >everyone who disagrees with me is a raiding cuck A convenient poisoned-well tactic.

>>1064110 >poisoned-well tactic

So, what are these faggots actually trying to accomplish? They aren't going to change anyone's mind, yet they want to stay in a place full of people they claim to hate.

>>1064110 <accurately describing events is poisoning the well You're making a fool of yourself, which is hilarious.

>>1064175 Reverse psychology of posting vidya tits? I certainly want the cuckchanners who still do that to come here and post their content in higher quality than they can on cuckchan. Crossposting from #GG general. Koei Tecmo Exec Reveals Company Issues Takedown Requests Against Thousands Of Inappropriate 'Dead Or Alive' Fan Art Pieces Every Year In Attempt To Protect IP, Says Characters Are Considered "Like Daughters" https://archive.fo/kf3dj >Per a recap of the panel provided by Japanese video game news outlet Game Watch, Nishimura opened the discussion by noting that in terms of his employer’s copyright protection-related efforts, one such area where they tried to afford particular leniency was that of “secondary works such as doujinshi [self-published print media]”. >Further, he noted that the company was not only tolerant of ‘otaku culture’, but even supported one of its biggest gatherings in the form of the annual Comic Market (Comicket) marketplace event. >However, despite this espoused support, Nishimura clarified that there were two notable exceptions to their doujinshi-related good will: Publications that published leaked images relating to unreleased games and those that portrayed the franchise’s cast of fighters in a way that Koei Tecmo themselves believed to be “inappropriate”, with their efforts against the latter amounting to roughly 2,000 to 3,000 takedown requests being issued every year to infringing users across various social media platforms. >From there, Nishimura closed out this section of the presentation by explaining that to attendees that rather than an inherent objection to sexual content or fan expression, these takedowns were issued in an effort to protect their IP’s ‘official image’, particularly as the female Dead or Alive cast were considered to be “like daughters” to both their respective designers and the overall company.

>>1064487 Better quality.

>>1064175 >They aren't going to change anyone's mind, yet they want to stay in a place full of people they claim to hate If it was valid to say this in cuckchan pre exodus, and it was valid to say this in 8prime post exodus, I hope it's still valid to say this here even though I notice that in this decrepit place I'm mostly surrounded by sub 100IQ monkeys, but Fuck off. The entire point of this place and anonymity is hoping that places do not turn into echo chambers. If all you want is an echo chamber just tell it straight away that you can't argue for shit in what you believe in and just want to sniff your own farts and feel important.

>>1064507 You're not understanding me. If they actually wanted to have a real discussion, that would be fine, but if you saw the deleted posts, that wasn't what was happening. They were just being faggots for the sake of being faggots. >haha get rekt u porn addicted loser virgins who cant admit ur own problem That's not a discussion. That's why Mark deleted the posts.

>>1063854 > "the sandwich has been formed and we fuck the butter" What's the original sentence?

>>1063854 >"the sandwich has been formed and we fuck the butter" To be honest this sounds exactly like something I would expect a Russian to say.

>>1063854 >the sandwich has been formed and we fuck the butter I'd like to know for what kind of context this very funny sentence can be used