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Sony goes full third party Anonymous 03/27/2025 (Thu) 18:56:59 Id: 184032 No. 1083321
It's over. Not only are Sony games on PC, they're also on Switch (2?) now (via Namco Bandai). https://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/everybodys-golf-hot-shots https://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/patapon-1-plus-2-replay Do you think they'll even try a PS6 at this point? What other old Sony IPs do you think will be dug up? Ape Escape Trilogy? Wild Arms HD? Gran Turismo PC? Do you expect the Switch 2 direct will confirm Metal Gear Delta for Switch 2 with Ape Escape minigame intact?
>>1083321 Can I get PSX classics on Switch 2? That would be hilarious. >Ape Escape Only one kind of people mention this series.
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>>1083324 >Only one kind of people mention this series. People with good taste?
>>1083321 >Do you think they'll even try a PS6 at this point? This is actually a great question. If Sony's tactic is to just make every game in their library multi-platform, what even is the point of making a console? The PS5 only has Astrobot, it cannot attract people beyond those who don't want to shell 4 digits on a gaming PC or are just accustomed to play on a PS, why bother?
>>1083324 >Can I get PSX classics on Switch 2? That would be hilarious. I'm honestly surprised they haven't already started offering PS1 games in an emulator wrapper on Steam like Sega used to do for the Genesis games.
I think the porting of Patapon being "full third party" is a funny way of defining it. Your title makes it sound like they went Microsoft.
>>1083334 They haven't?
>>1083333 They do, it's called PS Now. What, you thought they'd continue using the POPs/VGS emulators?
>>1083333 (checked) Didn't they release a small version of the PS1 that was just an emulator with built-in titles not long ago? All it needs is a little push since they are going multiplatform. >>1083334 Well they are releasing their games on PC and now the Switch, so it's not far from the truth.
Good! Let exclusives die for good. More competition is always welcome for this horrible market, maybe then we'll actually get some effort from the game devs to actually surpass each other again and get some market share instead of experiencing a permanent regression to the mean.
>>1083332 > If Sony's tactic is to just make every game in their library multi-platform, what even is the point of making a console? Most people who have consoles just want something to boot up and play the game they purchase with the guarantee that it would run 100%. I know too many people that chose to get a PS5 rather than invest in a gaming PC because: < The concept of PCs other than office work is foreign < They think having a PC means pouring ¥151,000+ just on parts plus upgrading every year. < They don't have the space for it < Brand loyalty I tried to offer one of them to build a PC for cheap but, again, the thought of using a PC other than work is foreign to them. If the console has nice upgraded graphics, games run 100% of the time, and all their friends play on it, then why bother with PC.
>>1083321 I thought the Patapon announcement was mostly to fuck with Ratatan's release. The timing fits and Sony can be rather spiteful.
>>1083344 I forgot about the Japanese market. Pretty good point.
>>1083364 >Nintendo is like Apple, steal or "Use a BSD License based software" and use it as their own while providing nothing in return pretending they are master engineers Didn't Apple make their streaming APIs open source back in the early Aughts long before people even considered livestreaming to be viable form of content delivery?
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In the end PC won the console wars
>>1083378 Not really, the Switch is still doing great. Sony and Microsoft only have themselves to blame for their destruction.
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>>1083381 True, I just find it funny how almost 20 years ago dudebros and journoshills were saying PC was dead while now it's bigger than PlayStation and Xbox combined.
>>1083374 Yep. He's just a pro-microsoft, pro-sony fanboy.
>>1083381 PC is bigger then Switch.
>>1083344 I suppose in my case, the older I get the less I want to bother with PC hijinks for gaming. instead going full console (Switch) in recent years >PC is pretty much a port machine these days, which is entirely different to how things used to be in the late 90's and 2000's (as someone who grew up with Speedy Eggbert, Star Wars Pit Droids, Total Annihilation, Warcraft 3, Stronghold, Dawn of War, TF2, etc.) >There is only a mere handful of titles that actually force me to use my gaming PC now, everything else I like (essentially Japanese games and indies) is on Switch. >western games progressively shitting the bed sure didn't help the situation either so there are less reasons to aim for high-end hardware (3D progress has also reached a hard ceiling either) >even retro PS1 (Duckstation) and PSP (PPSSPP) emulation can be done on a phone, which can be paired with a HDMI cable to a screen and/or a bluetooth controller (touchscreen is also fine for anything ranging between turn-based and ADV titles) Of course, obviously someone who is still heavily into RTS, realistic simulators and modded games for instance will keep using a gaming PC. But I find very silly this notion that PC has to be this "thing that ends all things" and which can appeal to everyone.
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>>1083321 They'll also on Xbox via Steam starting next generation. Speaking of Steam on Xbox, what are they going to do about all the hardcore pornography? I mean it's one thing to be able to access PornHub or SpankBank via the Edge browser - people expect their internet to be lewd. But locally installed launchable games with an Xbox overlay is an entirely different matter. What will Grandma think when she walks in on little Billy playing ChurnVector on the shiny new Xbox she got him for Christmas?
>>1083418 Wait, what? Is this just speculation/working off rumor or do we really know that Xbone Three will just be a PC box?
It only took two generations for these three games to dominate the entire market and make exclusives irrelevant.
>>1083413 >PC is pretty much a port machine these days This isn't true at all considering theres's a ton of exclusives on it.
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>>1083419 They haven't fully confirmed it, but that "accidental" leak which showed a Steam tab was no "accident". Companies are constantly teasing features early as a way to gauge public reaction and interest. Phil has been saying this is the route they want Xbox to go for years. It's not all just empty bluster. Strategically, it makes no sense for Microsoft to be fucking around in the console market just for the sake of games anyhow. You've got a 200million market cap at the absolute most optimal environment - and 50-80 million more realistically in any given generation. Why the fuck would Microsoft even care about such a small market compared to their other ventures? Fact of the matter is that Microsoft never cared about video games. It's always only ever been a means to an end. For the first Xbox, it was a way to prevent Sony from dominating the livingroom with a PS2 that promised upgradability into a PC. And even then, Xbox never should have been what it was. Bill Gates wanted a Windows Media extender - a kind of super-WebTV. Seamus Blackly and Ed Fries had to go behind his back to make a game console - which pissed off Bill and damned neared got the entire Xbox staff shitcanned until they reminded him that Sony was still a threat. Sony only marketed the PS2 as being upgradable to a PC as a way to skirt EU import taxes on luxury electronics Even when the Xbox 360, their most popular console, was at the height of it's popularity - a lot of people at Microsoft wanted to spin off the division as it's own independent company. They didn't get a seat at the big table until Phil took over Why? Well two big reasons. Firstly, because EU import laws had changed, and Sony no longer had to pretend that Playstation was a PC. Overnight OtherOS on the PS3 became more of a security liability than a tax evasion boon... so they went in and forcibly removed OtherOS from people's systems. This lead to a hilarious class action lawsuit in which Sony had to pay out to anyone who claimed to have even CONSIDERED downloading OtherOS at some point in time, even if they never had it. The other reason is that around that time, Tablets and SmartPhones put a computing device in everybody's hand. The fight over the livingroom became worthless. Ever since then, Microsoft has just been phoning it in with the Xbox. They tried to pivot it into a multimedia box that also played games, more in line with the Xbox's original vision. This is what got Don Mattrick shitcanned after the disastrous E3 reveal. Phil took over, but mostly he seems to be more concerned with selling controllers than actual game consoles. A lot of the games, especially mid-gen Xbox One titles, were just $60 shells to experiment with commercial proof-of-concepts and refinements. Crackdown 3's Multiplayer is a hot fucking mess exacly because they didn't give a single shit about making a good game - but a kind of laboratory for streaming game content on-demand. MSFS2020 is a further refinement of this, and as it stands now - Xbox doesn't generate much in the way of hype for it's actual games, but as a vehicle for GamePass. To the crux of the matter as it stands today - Sony is zero real competition for Microsoft in any meaningful sense. Microsoft will only ever lose to the console market what they put into it in any given generation. Which is a fucking rounding error for them at the end of the day. Consoles are going nowhere, existing in their own limited market. However, as a consequence of Microsoft trying to go full SmartPhone/Tablet with Windows 8 and introducing UWP (essentially killing Win32 applications and forcing everything through "Trusted Platforms" - I.E. the Microsoft Store) - Steam has been building a lifeboat in the form of SteamMachines and Proton. This is actually a major threat to Microsoft since it has the low, but real, potential to displace Microsoft from their functional monopoly over the PC market. They won't have the power to shape the future of the industry and technology standards with the ease of which they're used to. So just like Microsoft used Xbox as a lever to protect their OS's from Sony's PS2 - they're going to turn the Xbox into a streamlined entry-level PC in order to try to protect their monopoly in the PC space. And hey, as a bonus - this will kill Sony too, because if the feature ends up being popular, then Sony can't match it. "Xbox" games running on an Xbox will always out-preform Steam games running on the same Xbox - because the Virtual Machine needed to just run the game will always be lower than the VM overhead needed to provide a full PC experience. People on Xbox will still, on average, tend to buy their games from Microsoft for the ease of use and higher performance. Expanding Cross-Buy will help boost Microsoft Store purchases as well. Even if they only ever buy Steam games on Xbox - you're still in the Microsoft ecosystem where they can scrape telemetry, push Co-Pilot, and integrate GamePass right into the OS. Sony has none of that. If they try to put Steam and Proton onto their system to match Microsoft, Steam will just eat into their sales. Playstation is Sony's largest corporate division. What are they going to leverage, Sony Music/Sony Pictures? Sony's financial services? They have nowhere to go from here, and meanwhile are drowning under the iron weight of AAA development around their necks. Sony's best move right now is to just scale WAY THE FUCK BACK on AAA development - enforce exclusivity, and open up their vault of IPs to re-establish the Playstation brand as a place to go for games only Playstation can provide. They're going to have to go the same route as Nintendo if they want to survive from here on out. Two other points I can't be bothered to fit in above. First, if Microsoft does go the PC in console's skin route - Microsoft's ability to subsidize the reference hardware via Distribution and Royalties will make it one of the cheapest entry-level mid-range PCs available on the market. OEMs will cost more, but provide a "premier" experience with higher specs. Secondarily, and purely conjecture on my part, but Microsoft opening up to OEMs is a good opportunity to work with third parties in order to put hooks into future videogames that allows Microsoft Co-Pilot AI to auto-configure graphics options to not only the capabilities of the hardware, but around potential bottlenecks as well. It will provide the "one click simplicity" that console faggots crave for the PC market. Microsoft can, at least for now since Valve doesn't have an AI solution, use this as a lever to both provide training data for their AI as well as keep people invested into the Windows Ecosystem.
>>1083439 Very nice read, anon. >Sony's best move right now is to just scale WAY THE FUCK BACK on AAA development - enforce exclusivity, and open up their vault of IPs to re-establish the Playstation brand as a place to go for games only Playstation can provide. They're going to have to go the same route as Nintendo if they want to survive from here on out. AND move PlayStation HQ back to Japan to keep the Americans from ruining it any more than they already have.
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>>1083439 >And hey, as a bonus - this will kill Sony too, because if the feature ends up being popular, then Sony can't match it I'd rather see the Xbox division die than Sony, Sony trying to compete with the cancer that is Microsoft is what made them this shit. There's still a chance of Playstation developing decent hardware and software if they bring the HQ back to Japan, there's 0 chance of Microshit developing anything good, they're Crony and Poo Central.
>>1083439 Don't forget Game Pass being a basal form of GAAS, either. Building on the next xbawks being more-or-less a steam machine, I wouldn't be surprised if they pivot even more heavily towards a subscription-based GAAS and/or game streaming experience; the collapse of distinct architectures into generic x86 means that it's basically trivial for developers to put games on PC and Xbox and PS5. Setting aside Nintendo, console exclusives are effectively dead. MGS, FF, MonHun, TLoU and other walking simes, hell, even the weebshit is on PC - it's over, albeit more over for Soyny than M$. I fully expect whatever turd gets served up as the next Halo game to release on PC as well. >>1083474 >There's still a chance of Playstation developing decent hardware and software if they bring the HQ back to Japan Yeah, nah. That works for Nintendo because Nintendo has a better first-party library 'currently than Soyny and M$ have ever had, combined, in their entire collective history, and as for the hardware - if you're going to move away from an architecture that will not only make publishing on PC difficult but will make publishing on XBOX difficult then you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Do you think that companies like 2k are going to spend however much time and money it takes over the baseline to make sure that apehoop 2k28 plays nice on the PS6 which is going to be like 20% of their sales? No. Do you think that smaller devs are going to spend that time and money when they could just release on PC and in doing so incidentally release on Xbox? Hell no. > there's 0 chance of Microshit developing anything good, they're Crony and Poo Central. 100% agreed.
>>1083480 >apehoop 2k28 plays nice on the PS6 which is going to be like 20% of their sales? What are the stats on games like that on different platforms? I would imagine apehoop sells relatively well on PS5, even though nobody fucking owns a PS5.
>>1083981 >even though nobody fucking owns a PS5. I've heard people claim this since launch, but I've never actually seen anyone back it up. Can someone PLEASE give me a source to this actually being the case? Half the time, I just see someone say that the sales numbers are made up without actually explaining how or why.
>>1084321 I've never met anyone who actually owns a PS5 either, but I don't get out much so that doesn't mean much. I sure as fuck didn't buy a PS5, and the only time I ever had PS+ was for a single trial month when I first got my PS4. So I don't play online with it. The only person on my Sony friends list is some Vietnamese guy I used to compare Project Diva scores with, but he hasn't been on in ages. Probably starved to death due to Communism, poor bastard. Speaking of this kind of bullshit, is anybody else getting flooded with tiny (>1k subs) Youtube channels claiming to be PC enthusiasts shilling the fuck out of GamePass and fluffing up the Xbox brand while shitting on anything Sony? Dunno if it's a Youtube algorithm thing, or if Microsoft is engaging in some guerilla marketing scheme. Just seems weird. Hatfield fanboys shitting on McCoy fanboys are nothing new. It's highly effective low-effort engagement farming, but I'm starting to notice a convergence in messaging that reminds me of the TV talking heads all reading from the same script. I mean, not quite that bad... but it just strikes me as odd. Personally, I don't have a problem with console wars and fanboys. Who doesn't like going to the zoo and watching monkeys fling shit at each other? At least it inspires some kind of passion for a hobby brand, because their games sure as fuck don't. Vibrant fanboy flamewars are a sign of a healthy industry with competition. Notice you don't see much Chevy vs Ford fights since those vehicles started to get made in Mexico
>>1084519 >I've never met anyone who actually owns a PS5 I know multiple people who own a PS5. I'm not sure where this belief even comes from.
>>1084623 I know maybe one, an ex coworker That's about it, knew plenty who owned a PS4, was almost PS2 tier. Most are waiting for fucking GTA to buy one and the rest don't give a shit anymore since they got a wife and kids.
>>1084635 >since they got a wife and kids. That must be nice. Meanwhile, I'm nearly 30 and nowhere close.
>>1084321 I don't know about if the PS5 sales numbers are true, but where I live most people are either Xbox or Nintendo fanboys. Owning any form of PlayStation generally will make you an outcast from any local gaming communities here. Not that I give 2 shits as I play my vita in public and ignore the fags calling me a retard.
>>1084642 >giving a shit
>>1083344 I love this picture.
>>1084519 I got a nephew (who mostly uses it for Fortnite and Rocket League) and several corworkers (married with kids) who has them. Its mostly normies who do which you won't find on videogame imageboads.
if this funds more AA games and they revive japan studio im sure its the best outcome possible for the company
>>1084646 >but where I live most people are either Xbox or Nintendo fanboys Same here
>>1084646 >Not that I give 2 shits as I play my vita in public and ignore the fags calling me a retard. Legend spotted.
>>1084669 You sound like a real retard.
>>1084762 Don't read his post in your own voice then.
>>1084763 Not an argument.
>>1084762 >Feels bad about being a wifeless childess loser instead of embracing it Your loss retardo
>>1086184 Ah, yes, that's a healthy attitude.
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>>1086202 People who are healthy don't post here
>>1086219 What if someone who posted here became healthy? Would they leave?
>>1086219 it took me way too long to realize he isn't gaping
>>1086221 You're here forever, you can't wash off sticky grime that is the past. You can only pretend to be a normalfag for so long.
>>1086219 that's so true Socrasissy.
>>1086255 <there's too many secret club cum stains on me undies, im so fucked up bros bars open every day anon, you can just enter and pay
>>1086255 Please seek help.
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>>1087096 >>1087414 You're delusional
>>1087422 Are you OK, anon?
I wonder if Bamco agreed to publish a bunch of first-party Sony games they don't care about just to earn enough favor to publish Bloodborne. It's definitely the "endgame" of Japan Studio titles and they've published lots of From games. Personally I hope they tackle Gravity Rush and give us ports of those to more platforms.
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>>1090433 Would be hilarious, the amount of money Sony is losing due to western focus is amazing to witness.
>>1090433 Sony probably doesn't think there is any reason to do exclusives anymore since all of the ones they've had recently aren't exactly system-sellers. Sure, you can have Patapon and Hot shots golf, what reality did anyone buy a home console for that? The PSP is dead so it's not like they need a hot launch Patapon title for it.
>>1090433 >Personally I hope they tackle Gravity Rush and give us ports of those to more platforms. Yep. This my dream.
>>1091993 Imagine seeing new Gravity Rush and Ape Escape titles releasing on PC/Switch 2. We need Sony to realise the Gravity Rush live action movie idea is terrible first though.
ONE GAME
>>1103604 I DON'T KNOW WHY
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>>1110674 >they got nothing to offer besides a few successes like God of War They got an entire treasure trove of IPs to work off of, even if most of them aren't on the level of God of War's success.
>>1083418 >Churn vector Cool thanks for the title!
>>1083341 The fuck are you talking about.
>>1083321 I mean they'll probably end up batting 1/12 on live service so they'll have to come back to us after enough burns from the PoserCommunity's survivor bias rat race. Also we'll do batter here rhetorically I feel, the Jannies actually do their fucking jobs instead of being Mossad Tendies and I already frequented /vore1/ so there's potential collaboration open to us for a revival of WHIRR meme magic. kek
no on your life, nintendie.
>>1083321 >Gran Turismo PC as far as I know that was a confermed "not happening any time soon" along with Demon's Souls remake, if not a straight "never ever" also >>1083344 get on with the times, PC gaming is getting more and more popular in japan you can thank a lot of factors for that - the PS5's initial availability being garbage, the rising prices of snoy hardware, Valve sending Decks as gifts to however many game developers they could find
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switch 2 needs to drop its price first.
>>1133615 450 isn't TOO bad, games being 80-90 is retarded though
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>>1132905 >the PS5's initial availability being garbage On a less trolly note from me that's probably like half the reason for the porting (and cross gen stuff) anyway. Might have been fears of low availability = low momentum/mindshare so they go for "muh wider audience", ultimately that just resulted in shit like Concord though.
>>1133637 I don’t want the shitass camera, and fps varying on each switch 2 game is laughable.
should I buy a PC now that console gaming is pretty much dead if you aren't a toddler
>>1103710 I BOUGHT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES TO BUY
Playing through Sayaka's game right now as it's been several years since my last playthrough, and I'm having lots of fun. Never knew there were secret menu codes that can just give you all gadgets/morphs and 9999 coins right from the start, weird inclusion considering how piss easy the game is.
>>1134412 It doesn't come with the camera and the framerate varies with every console on the market right now.
>open thread expecting a ton of spats-covered loli butt >get on-topic discussion instead I'll admit, I'm a bit disappointed.
>>1147475 >tragic tale >/v/anon clicks on lust provoking image, discovers a on-topic discussion
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>>1147475 There's entire loli boards and even loli vore threads, why would you be staved? There's as much cunny as you could ever want on this site. kek
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>>1144945 1 and 3 are both tied for being the best for me but I wish 3 wasn't as easy as it was, everything else is phenomenal. Ape Escape is cool as fuck and i'm sad we haven't gotten a new game in over a decade, wish those recent Fangamer Pipo Monkey plushes came in more colors than just the basic yellow but at least it's something.
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>>1169495 >recent Fangamer Pipo Monkey plushes Those got me to finally replay+100% AE1 (and Eng-patched Million Monkeys) some months back. Similarly, when Hot Topic put out that snazzy-looking monkey shirt I was pretty excited for a teaser for 4, a remastered collection, or even a bigger merch lineup. But as I recall that was a year or two before JapanStudio got a bullet to the back of the head, so I'm not holding out for any sort of 'revival' anytime soon.
>>1169707 While I'd kill for a remastered collection, it was very likely just to push the return of Snake VS Monkey, which is a bit sad but it's nice to see. Hope the Million Monkeys patch gets 100% finished at some point. It and Pumped & Primed are really good. >>1169764 I think 2's as strong as the other two main series games at the start minus the music, but once you start getting the new gadgets the levels start losing their steam as all the new gadgets are only useful for the super obvious use the gadget here setpieces outside of the water cannon repairing vehicles. >I love how the english dub got the voice actors for Ash Ketchum and Misty. So surreal hearing their voices. The American dubbers were definitely having a riot when deciding on that and I like it. never really liked how aggressively British the Europe team made everyone sound even if it is their accent.
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>>1133637 IIRC, Nintendo has outright stated that they are aiming to sell the Switch 2 at a small profit, rather than a loss. If this is true, then they are literally charging you extra for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Remember that royalties on console games are a thing, and typically account for about 5~10% of a game's total price. These royalties used to be used to subsidize the hardware prices, lowering the cost of hardware. If you're not getting a discount on the hardware, then you're just paying Nintendo because fuck you. Also, since there are no royalties on PC - any game publisher who maintains price parity between console and PC is fucking you in the ass and making you pay for it.
>>1170064 >capitalist entity created to make money wants to make a profit woah
>>1170221 Standard industry practice you stupid gorilla nigger. Game consoles are family systems, and competed against PC and other forms of entertainment by being highly affordable to pretty much anybody with kids to play them. Profit was made by selling cartridges to third parties games with royalty fees attached to them. This is why attach rates on consoles were so important. Used to be console makers would actually lower the price of their hardware as the generation progressed and the materials and fabrication process became cheaper - still selling at a loss and making the money back on software sales. These days, they just take the royalties, and only sell at a loss during the consoles launch (if they even do that) - while never actually reducing it's price throughout the generation so that they make direct profit on each hardware unit sold ON TOP OF the now useless royalties. Useless aside from gouging you because dumbfucks will pay it without throwing a shitfit and think it's normal.
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>>1083321 Cool, can I get Infamous 1&2 and the GoW collection (you can keep nu-gow, I want none of that dogshit)?
>>1170411 Just to nitpick, Nintendo has never sold their systems at a loss. It IS industry practice for everyone else, but it's not a practice Nintendo has ever engaged in.
>>1083381 Xbox's fall was especially the stupidest and most pathetic of them all. Microsoft cucked its fanbase so hard it wasn't even funny.
>>1171476 As much as I lament the current state of PlayStation it's still 100,000x better than being an Xbottom, even Cortana got sanded down.
>>1190252 it's the same shit on both sides anon, sony just doesn't make it as public (or journos don't report it because they're on their payroll anyway). you just need to look at their recent output to get confirmation.
>>1170900 I want uncharted 1-3 alas >>1171308 is this true for 3ds after price cut as well?
>>1083439 >tend to buy their games from Microsoft for the ease of use and higher performance have you tried downloading games from the windows' xbox app? that piece of shit was worse than ea and origin combined. >microsoft can use ai to configure graphics settings and install mods and fixpacks geeweez I sure love an ai that will remove my uncensor mods and replace them with popular graphics mods that I did not install cause I didnt like the look of
>>1083418 same way you cant see adult titles on steam without logging in they filter them out
>>1083321 >Do you think they'll even try a PS6 at this point? I don't see the point of a PS6, especially when the current generation feels like it hasn't really started at all. What would the sales pitch even look like, "pay $600-800 to play the same shit you're already playing"? Sony should just focus on expanding their own studios so they don't release one single game every 2-3 fucking years. If they're to make new hardware in the near future, it should just be a handheld or hybrid.
>>1193002 thats what happens when you dont pull the plug on the previous gen >but muh playerbase then why did you make a new generation
>>1171308 They explicitly confirmed Wii U was sold at a loss at one point, just such a small one that one game made up for it.
>>1193015 I think the problem goes much deeper than just Sony supporting the PS4 for a long time. The reality is that the output from most big publishers these days is abysmal, especially when compared to last gen. Look at Rockstar's release schedule during the 00s and then what they've been doing for the last decade, it's grim. Add the fact that games don't look meaningfully better than last gen, even when they're exclusively designed for the new consoles, and it feels like you're just paying to own a new thing that you're not actually going to use. It's not just a Sony thing either, even on PC I don't really feel like upgrading anymore. Everything is way too expensive and I'm just going to spend my time playing some game released 10 years ago anyway.
>>1083439 Steam integration on Xbox would undoubtedly be a very good move, which is exactly why I don't want it to happen.
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>>1191455 They were censorious, moved their HQ to the US and most of their devs are woke but they don't actually mandate DEI themes or characters, etc. If that was the case Helldivers might not have been so gulf war and Eve would have been a big no-no. It's not comparable to how top down MS is.
>>1193570 >Steam integration on Xbox would undoubtedly be a very good move That means Microsoft will never actually go forward with it, so rest assured.
>>1194228 People who think this is gonna happen don't understand how royalties work. That'd just kill the last reason they still even make Xbox.
>>1083327 SPATS!1!112
>>1083321 Does that everybody's golf include Adam Jenson?
>>1195241 Microsoft wouldn't be missing out on royalties, though. 1. Most people who buy an Xbox system are never going to explore past the Xbox features. When they go to buy games, the Microsoft Store will be right there integrated into the OS. Steam won't be. There's a reason so many normalnigger windows users still use Edge browser. They don't give a fuck, and it's built in. 2. Cross-Buy, if fully exploited, could be huge. "Xbox" games will run better than their Steam counterparts on the Xbox, because they already know the performance impact of the game and can tailor the VM to take the most advantage of the resources - whereas a Steam gaming running in VM will need to have far more overhead allocated to it. So the incentive to buy an Xbox game on the Xbox is already there - but now, what about handhelds? Cross-Buy via the Microsoft Store will ensure that your Xbox games will play on your Xbox Compatible Handheld device along with all of your Steam games - including those with AntiCheat bullshittery that doesn't play well with Linux. If you buy a Steam Deck, you don't have access to Xbox features and Xbox games except what's available through streaming. 3. Royalties are chicken scratch compared to the revenue that Microsoft brings in just keeping it's users locked in the Microsoft ecosystem. Telemetry scraping, targeted advertising, built-in services, integrated Co-Pilot AI, etc. Not to mention the leverage that Microsoft enjoys within the tech space to shape it into profitable ventures for them by being the overwhelmingly dominant OS. Again, I don't expect Linux/SteamOS to start an OS revolution on the PC - but even a 15-20% cut into Microsoft's ecosystem is unacceptable to them. Even if they have to run the entire Xbox division as a loss leader, the Xbox brand is currently too important to their plans to not leverage it as a means to make sure their Ecosystem is the only real game in town for PC.
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>>1237434 >Microsoft wouldn't be missing out on royalties, though They would unless MS is charging Valve for every transaction, so ether Valve would have to take a hit or charge you an Xbox tax. >so many normalnigger windows users still use Edge browser I know literally nobody that uses edge, not even my mom or the QT bartender I'm trying to chat up (wish me luck, niggers) >Cross-Buy, if fully exploited, could be huge Never really did much for my favourite console, the VIta. The secret renaissance of PlayStation everyone let slip by. >"Xbox" games will run better than their Steam counterparts Giving up console optimisations on cost effective hardware with a 7-8 year life cycle would suck, especially so something like Series S. >but now, what about handhelds I'm not sure how relevant PC handhelds really are. Even the Deck only sold like 6 million so far, an overhyped market limited severely by x86. >Royalties are chicken scratch compared to the revenue that Microsoft brings in just keeping it's users locked in the Microsoft ecosystem Cart before the horse, my dude. The whole reason you get someone on locked in the ecosystem is for royalties, subs, peripherals, etc. That's why I think exclusives can't really be live service, on a service or too bloated. You need a varied selection of good games that can break even while just on that one platform and hopefully bait a wide variety of players to buy in, then you're making 30% on anything else they decide to pick up. >Telemetry scraping, targeted advertising, built-in services, integrated Co-Pilot AI, etc. Not to mention the leverage that Microsoft enjoys within the tech space to shape it into profitable ventures for them by being the overwhelmingly dominant OS. Again, I don't expect Linux/SteamOS to start an OS revolution on the PC That's whole reason people want to move to Linux though. Their computer won't fucking go to sleep anymore and Pajeet spyware is spiking task manager and slowing their shit down for no reason. >Even if they have to run the entire Xbox division as a loss leader Always has been because of numerous fuckups.
>>1083321 >>1083332 >The PS5 only has Astrobot, it cannot attract people beyond those who don't want to shell 4 digits on a gaming PC or are just accustomed to play on a PS, why bother? Why can't Sony release multiple games a year? They got like 20 studios at this point.
>>1265558 Same reason MS doesn't release multiple games despite also owning several studios: they don't think its profitable enough and prefer to spend a gorillion dollars on a single high budget game or GAAShit. The art of AA/mid budget projects is lost on them.
>>1083321 >Sony goes full third party I wish this were actually the case. The only games they've bothered to put on PC are the current handful of movie IPs they've focused on for the past decade, and only because PS5 owners aren't buying anything other than Fortnite, CoD, and GTA. Where's Demon's Souls? PS only. Where's Astro Bot? PS only. Where's Uncharted 1-3? PS only. Where's Sly Cooper, inFamous, Tearaway, Gravity Rush, PS1 and PS2 classics, etc? PS only. It's ironic, because Sony was the one throwing a massive fit over Microsoft having "exclusivity" over games and was able to get the FTC and the EU Trade Commission to guarantee PS5 ports of Xbox first-party titles, meanwhile Sony is sitting on a massive fucking horde of exclusives but won't do dick diddly fucking shit about bringing them out. The ones in your OP? That's Bamco handling the publishing and distribution duties, and Sony is STILL blocking Microcock from getting them anyways.
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>>1090433 There has literally never been a worse partner for FromSoftware than Sony themselves. Despite From being one of the earliest Playstation developers that continued to pump out a gorillion exclusives, Sony has done nothing but constantly fuck them and their publishers over time and again. It's only after Demon's Souls, and later Dark Souls, became massive, phenomenal hits with the mainstream that Sony decided that they're actually worth something and are now doing what they can to slowly buy From through Kadokawa.
>>1268919 Speaking of MS exclusivity >Microsoft plans a massive round of layoffs in the Xbox division. >"Managers within Xbox are expecting substantial cuts across the entire group." >Central Europe Distribution will be restructured with closings. https://archive.is/wPnWG https://archive.is/RlNO4 Consoles are dead.
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>>1501135 Home consoles are dad, yeah. Nintendo seems to be doing fine, too bad their fucking cult sure isn't. It really is just a consequence of AAA dying out. Even the yearly release model is dying out being replaced by a single game that's updated for decades that normalniggers consume ad nauseum.
WHERE IS DARK CLOUD 1 AND 2, YOU HACK ASSHOLE DOUCHEBAGS? I KNOW YOU'RE KEEPING THEM LOCKED UP. YOU WON'T LET LEVEL 5 MAKE A SEQUEL
>>1501162 <same ID for over three months Fascinating.
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>>1501274 Don't make me reset my router fagola
>>1501300 Do it, you won't.
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>>1501324 You asked for it!
>>1501326 You should be doing that monthly for security reasons anyway.
>>1501326 Oh, you were the one arguing with me about about whether normal people post here or not. How ya been?
>>1501369 >How ya been? Y-you too!
How come my all of my own posts still display as (you) after my ID randomly changes? Why doesn't the admin just tie ID to what tracks (you)? Why are they separate in the first place?
>>1501436 >Why doesn't the admin just tie ID to what tracks (you)? Why are they separate in the first place? Because then (((You))) would be able to change IDs by just switching browsers, fucking retard.
>>1501431 lol >>1501436 IDs are done by IP address, the (You)s are done by local storage in your browser. Delete your cookies and cache and the (You)s will go away.
>>1501472 Yeah, we wouldn't want to make it easier for people to be anonymous on 8chan, would we?
>>1501678 What's an anonymous?
>>1501472 With the current system my ID changes when I've done nothing and don't want it to change.
>>1083321 Maybe if they made exclusives that were actually good again people would consider it
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Sony doubles down on being third party: Job listing for executive who will play >a critical leadership role in shaping and executing the global commercial strategy for PlayStation Studios software titles across all digital platforms beyond PlayStation hardware, including Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox, Nintendo, and mobile https://archive.ph/TYofr Xbox part is new. Mobile technically already existed, Wild Arms and Arc the Lad were picked from the graveyard to be whored out for gotcha shit, but I don't think they were under "PlayStation Studios".
>>1608573 Just confirming what we already know None of their modern games are worth a fucking dick though.
>>1083321 >they're also on Switch (2?) now (via Namco Bandai). So just like Dark Souls on the original Switch. Back in 2018.
>>1608955 Dark Souls was a spiritual successor to the Sony IP and not owned by them.
>>1608955 Dark Souls was never a Sony IP
>>1504129 Exclusives only make sense for platform holders to add value to a hardware purchase, Sony has a few cool IPS but they pretty much let most of them die in favor of more terrible horizon zero Dawn garbage and trying to turn everything into "The last of Us" (some long winded overly emotional third person mostly walking game) I don't even want them to make new games I just want them to Port their old catalog to PC, I would love to see this list pop up (especially a lot of the older stuff) Jumping flash 1 and 2 Twisted metal 1, and 2 God of war (original series) Ico and Shadow of the Colossus Killzone Resistance (maybe) Infamous Demon souls / bloodborne Legend of dragoon Ape escape Dark cloud Primal Folklore / folk soul Jeanne d’Arc Gravity Rush Siphon filter Blasto Everybody's golf Omega boost Wild arms Alondra
[Expand Post] Arc the lad (maybe) Crime crackers Motor tune Grand Prix Ore no Shikabane o Koete Yuke (maybe)
>>1608986 >Gravity Rush This is literally the only thing that matters to me. inFamous was cool, but I don't really feel the need to play it again. But Gravity Rush 1 and 2 are absolute must-haves on PC for me.
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Sony to move away from hardware to a "community and engagement based platform" https://archive.is/UPYRC Isn't this the same wording Microsoft used?
>>1649016 >/v/ is slower than /vb/ wew >>>/vb/29610 >Isn't this the same wording Microsoft used? My guess is that it's more corporate speak than actual policy. I honestly don't see Sony giving up a Sony brand hardware device completely. I really don't see MS doing it ether but I especially don't see Sony doing it. If anything it's probably more of a catfishing/poaching scheme wher they where they expand into mobile or PC just enough to try to draw users back into their own physical ecosystems. Like what Nintendo did with Super Mario Run and Pokemon GO, really. It's going to be like >you can access the Playstation digital environment through all these different devices! <but you'll have a much shittier experience unless your on a real Playstation


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