If only they were more diverse

>>1236110 Mongol history is still a sore subject for large parts of Asia. Remember when the Chinese tried or maybe they did, I don't remember to get that French museam to shut down its Ghengis Khan exhibit?

>>1236110 my ancestors :)

>>1236110 Mostly because xitter posting westerners don't know shit about Mongols other than memes and retarded pics like that. The mongol "empire" never looked like that. Yuan dynasty wasn't even unified with the north west nor did a single, unified bureaucratic mongol force control all of those territories at once. Even before Kublai established the Yuan in the mainland, the other Khans were already fractured and infighting. And when the Yuan dynasty itself got overthrown and kicked out of the mainland in just 70 years, the remnants got exterminated by their own Mongol "cousins" in the north. >>1237143 >Mongol history is still a sore subject for large parts of Asia. Chinese make Mongol (also Xianbei, Xiongnu, Khitan, Jurchen, Manchu etc.) movies and dramas all the fucking time. It's oversaturated if anything. Including about Temujin and Kublai. Yuan dynasty got registered as official, albeit short-lived and unsuccessful, dynasty. They don't shy away from it. Some even dramatize history and make Temujin himself battle the Song dynasty like in Condor Heroes. But that never happened because Temujin went west and slaughtered Europeans instead. If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's since they had John fucking Wayne play Genghis Khan in the only Hollyslop representation of him lmao. And they almost never talk about Attila the Hun or other Steppe invaders like Avars or Bulgars, that decimated Europe during the Migration Period, including forever ending the unified European empire. Insane how many people had to mash "Cumans" into Google when KCD first came out. Just complete shameless erasure of collective knowledge about various Asian invaders and conquerors of Europe. >French museum You had frogs seething because they wanted a collab with Inner Mongolia and then quit when they couldn't rewrite history. Accusing the evil see see pee of erasing Mongol culture. Unilaterally and without sources or proofs. This happened during the coordinated gay ops attempt of stirring shit in Inner Mongolia with organized protests in Outer Mongolia about Mandarin lessons in elementary schools lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yvxz0cehg Just another glownigger attempt at genocide and balkanization narrative. It fell apart because, much like the Uyghurs, the USAID agents don't know shit about these people.

>>1244342 Just because they fighting each other doesn't mean they were totalky fractured like pop history tells. The Khanates still acknowledge the name of the Great Khan while the Great Khan grants legitimacy to the various Khans of the other Khans even if they couldn't control them anymore.

>>1244342 >Temujin went west and slaughtered Europeans The Mongol conquests in Europe didn’t begin until about a decade after he died. >If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's Anon, most people in the West know nothing about Genghis Khan other than he was an Asiatic warlord who live long ago in a far away place and killed lots of people. Most don’t even know the Mongols were in Europe and most of the Westerners who do know that don’t really care because Eastern European history is largely irrelevant in their eyes. >since they had John fucking Wayne play Genghis Khan in the only Hollyslop representation of him lmao. He was the biggest star at the time. >And they almost never talk about Attila the Hun Atilla the Hun is very well known. >or other Steppe invaders like Avars or Bulgars, that decimated Europe during the Migration Period including forever ending the unified European empire. The Avars and Bulgars came after the Fall of Rome IIRC, and they never made it further west than the Balkans, which most Westerners don’t care about. >Insane how many people had to mash "Cumans" into Google when KCD first came out. Again, most Western people don’t care about the history of anything east of Germany. >Just complete shameless erasure of collective knowledge about various Asian invaders and conquerors of Europe. See above. The West does not care about Eastern European history and they certainly aren’t mad about Asiatic groups that invaded it centuries ago and are now practically endangered species.

>>1244342 >If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's This makes no sense. The Mongols got stopped in Eastern Europe. >the unified European empire This has never existed. You talk about how fragmented the Mongols were, but then act like an empire that never even nominally controlled central, eastern or northern Europe was a unified European empire. Judging from your dishonest chink screeching >>1237143 was right. You fags are still seething.

>>1237143 if anything today the mongolians are more pissed at china than the other way around. since most of the old actual mongolia is part of red china today.

We already have the best Mongol game, one where Japanese kick their asses: Tsushima We don't need one glorifying those terrorist bugs

Nobody wants to play as Asians. They want to play as white people or Japs. Same reason the Persian empire is always ignored.

I've been teaching myself how to throat sing. I've gotten to a point where I can hold a note for a full minute, but I don't know how to make that high-pitched whistling noise that pic related makes.

Paradox just came out with a DLC focused on nomads and the mongols etc. Friend told me it was really good if you are willing to be a paypig for paradox

>>1309170 creamapi exists lol

>>1309227 this is true

>>1286978 >Same reason the Persian empire is always ignored.

>>1236110 No one that would fund the relevant media would benefit from steppe history becoming popular because most countries have a 'digested' nomad population (not gypsies, those are something else that is more sinister) and them regaining an identity would lead to political upheaval. This is less prevelant in the american continent but they don't really know much about these settings in the first place since the above prevents it from reaching them. Chinks will make a lot of Turko-Mongol content but they will cast everyone as chinese because whenever a region of china got taken over by horse riders they would become "chinese" by marrying someone from a local dynasty and settling down to rule over their new subjects and it's part of chinese larp to try and use that to act like they won those battles. Funnily enough, Bilge Khan's Orkhon Inscriptions have multiple lines about not trusting/intermingling with the Chinese even if you fall in love with one because they will betray you no matter what.

modern education doesn't discuss mongol history in the west, and the only exposure modern generations got was the episodes of southpark where that one dude built a chinese wall surrounding the town and mongols attacked it repeatedly.

mount&blade is all you need. let's hope bannerlord will be fixed some day.

>>1309622 >Chinks will make a lot of Turko-Mongol content but they will cast everyone as chinese because whenever a region of china got taken over by horse riders they would become "chinese" by marrying someone from a local dynasty and settling down to rule over their new subjects and it's part of chinese larp to try and use that to act like they won those battles. To be completely fair China is very good as assimilating invaders into becoming Chinese. The basic pattern seems to be >attack China >conquer China >rule China >become China

>>1309227 >creamapi I read it as "creampai" and yes, Genghis Khan most likely did a lot of that when you think about it.

>>1244342 >Accusing the evil see see pee of erasing Mongol culture. The Chinese claim Genghis Khan as their own, which is a lie, chinky

>>1236110 Late posting this: Much of the Mongols were heavily divided so it was not a single empire but a collection of khaganates and chiefdoms. Also, Ghengis Khan did not take China but only part of it. His successors did the rest and with the help of dissenting Chinese nobility.

>>1236110 Two reasons A lot of Ghengis did does not vibe well with modern standards. Erasing what he did to win battles would simultaniously eliminate the cool factor of the Mongols and be met with backlash. Second, it'd be boring. Yes, Rome licked Genghis Khan's boot to stop him from continuing to expand westward. Yes they were an impressive fighting force. That's not how their empire grew. It grew through intelligence. Ghengis would marry his daughters off, then expect his son in laws to prove themselves on the battlefield. Either they did, solidifying that they were loyal, or they didn't and they died leaving his daughters to run the kingdom which they were doing while their husbands were away. They'd spare civilians to drive them into cities. Not out of mercy. Their goal was to starve them out faster. After conquering a city, they'd kill everyone in the city on occasion to put the fear into the next city. They used advanced seige equipment including gunpowder bombs. They'd use captured civilians as human shields. The Mongols would be smart about their engagements and operations. If you were a soldier, you'd be expected to follow orders without question, when and how they were given. Does that sound like a fun game? They were masters of the "feigned retreat." Have a small group of soldiers engage, look like they lost, retreat, then hit the pursuing army with a vastly larger force at a location of the Mongol's choosing. Promotion was done based on merit. They had a great postal system. The government was centralized. The Mongol Empire wasn't built on the most manly badassery you can imagine. It was built on grand strategy tier ruling and warfare.

>>1733033 That's pretty cool, actually.

>>1733033 Rome had a shitton of that too, seems to me that the Mongol Empire doesn't get much media because it makes Slavic States and the Chinese butthurt.

>>1733033 >Rome licked Genghis Khan's boot to stop him from continuing to expand westward What? Genghis Khan wasn't born until the 12th century, about 700 years after the fall of the Roman Empire. Are you thinking of Attila the Hun? The Romans defeated him at the Battle of Chalons, then he got drunk and died of a nosebleed. >>1733143 I think it's just that, with the exception of China, the Mongols didn't conquer any of the places which are now major producers of media, so they're not seen as relevant to those nations' histories. They tried to invade Japan twice, and failed, they didn't really attempt to invade Western Europe, and they had no knowledge of America.

>>1734648 >they didn't really attempt to invade Western Europe You just made some Finn anon out there really sad.

>>1244342 >They don't shy away from it CCP wants to pretend that anyone ever conquering China was just chinese infighting. They don't split Mongolia to Inner and Outer to acknowledge Mongols but to have a bullshit claim on the outer part if the opportunity presents itself. Europe went through events that allowed for sublimation of a lot of butthurt and all of the potential for wrath is being focused on current day muslims and european traitors. No one is thinking about Avars or Mongols because 70 IQ nafris and niggers flooding western Europe are the actual threat. Even Russians are the boogieman just for their immediate neighbors. Meanwhile asians are still very tense about each other all over the place and chinese propaganda is so ridiculou that any chink who falls for it has to be comically butthurt about everyone and everything not chinese. What about EU propaganda? Almost exclusively self-flagelating indoctrination for lefty women a funko pop collectors - again, we don't need over millennia old shit to concern ourselves with when our own "elites" want us dead or atleast miserable. Love me long time.

No one in the thread ever heard of those Golden Horde devs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujX587QSjH8

>>1244342 >Conquerers of Europe None of the parts that matter.

>>1734734 All memes aside, did the Mongols ever actually invade Finland? IIRC, what is now Finland was part of Novgorod at the time, and Novgorod agreed to pay tribute to the Mongols without a fight. I could be wrong about that though.