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Why are there few games about the Mongol Empire? Anonymous 04/24/2025 (Thu) 03:34:14 Id: d5ddb9 No. 1236110
It's a cool and excellent setting due to the epic diversity of conquest that the Mongols have done. >Unite nomadic tribes to form the Khan. >Defeat Chinese Dynasties that have advanced technology and gunpower weapons. >Utterly destroy Islamic Civilization. >Rampage Russia, Poland and Hungary. >Fight the Egyptian Mamluks. >Fight Japanese Samurai. >Fight against Koreans,Vietnamese, Koreans and Indonesians. >Fight each other through civil wars using their main military and the local troops. But somehow very few games scratch the surface of how epic actual history is.
If only they were more diverse
>>1236110 Mongol history is still a sore subject for large parts of Asia. Remember when the Chinese tried or maybe they did, I don't remember to get that French museam to shut down its Ghengis Khan exhibit?
>>1236110 my ancestors :)
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>>1236110 Mostly because xitter posting westerners don't know shit about Mongols other than memes and retarded pics like that. The mongol "empire" never looked like that. Yuan dynasty wasn't even unified with the north west nor did a single, unified bureaucratic mongol force control all of those territories at once. Even before Kublai established the Yuan in the mainland, the other Khans were already fractured and infighting. And when the Yuan dynasty itself got overthrown and kicked out of the mainland in just 70 years, the remnants got exterminated by their own Mongol "cousins" in the north. >>1237143 >Mongol history is still a sore subject for large parts of Asia. Chinese make Mongol (also Xianbei, Xiongnu, Khitan, Jurchen, Manchu etc.) movies and dramas all the fucking time. It's oversaturated if anything. Including about Temujin and Kublai. Yuan dynasty got registered as official, albeit short-lived and unsuccessful, dynasty. They don't shy away from it. Some even dramatize history and make Temujin himself battle the Song dynasty like in Condor Heroes. But that never happened because Temujin went west and slaughtered Europeans instead. If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's since they had John fucking Wayne play Genghis Khan in the only Hollyslop representation of him lmao. And they almost never talk about Attila the Hun or other Steppe invaders like Avars or Bulgars, that decimated Europe during the Migration Period, including forever ending the unified European empire. Insane how many people had to mash "Cumans" into Google when KCD first came out. Just complete shameless erasure of collective knowledge about various Asian invaders and conquerors of Europe. >French museum You had frogs seething because they wanted a collab with Inner Mongolia and then quit when they couldn't rewrite history. Accusing the evil see see pee of erasing Mongol culture. Unilaterally and without sources or proofs. This happened during the coordinated gay ops attempt of stirring shit in Inner Mongolia with organized protests in Outer Mongolia about Mandarin lessons in elementary schools lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yvxz0cehg Just another glownigger attempt at genocide and balkanization narrative. It fell apart because, much like the Uyghurs, the USAID agents don't know shit about these people.
>>1244342 Just because they fighting each other doesn't mean they were totalky fractured like pop history tells. The Khanates still acknowledge the name of the Great Khan while the Great Khan grants legitimacy to the various Khans of the other Khans even if they couldn't control them anymore.
>>1244342 >Temujin went west and slaughtered Europeans The Mongol conquests in Europe didn’t begin until about a decade after he died. >If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's Anon, most people in the West know nothing about Genghis Khan other than he was an Asiatic warlord who live long ago in a far away place and killed lots of people. Most don’t even know the Mongols were in Europe and most of the Westerners who do know that don’t really care because Eastern European history is largely irrelevant in their eyes. >since they had John fucking Wayne play Genghis Khan in the only Hollyslop representation of him lmao. He was the biggest star at the time. >And they almost never talk about Attila the Hun Atilla the Hun is very well known. >or other Steppe invaders like Avars or Bulgars, that decimated Europe during the Migration Period including forever ending the unified European empire. The Avars and Bulgars came after the Fall of Rome IIRC, and they never made it further west than the Balkans, which most Westerners don’t care about. >Insane how many people had to mash "Cumans" into Google when KCD first came out. Again, most Western people don’t care about the history of anything east of Germany. >Just complete shameless erasure of collective knowledge about various Asian invaders and conquerors of Europe. See above. The West does not care about Eastern European history and they certainly aren’t mad about Asiatic groups that invaded it centuries ago and are now practically endangered species.
>>1244342 >If anyone's ass is still sore it's the west's This makes no sense. The Mongols got stopped in Eastern Europe. >the unified European empire This has never existed. You talk about how fragmented the Mongols were, but then act like an empire that never even nominally controlled central, eastern or northern Europe was a unified European empire. Judging from your dishonest chink screeching >>1237143 was right. You fags are still seething.
>>1237143 if anything today the mongolians are more pissed at china than the other way around. since most of the old actual mongolia is part of red china today.
We already have the best Mongol game, one where Japanese kick their asses: Tsushima We don't need one glorifying those terrorist bugs
Nobody wants to play as Asians. They want to play as white people or Japs. Same reason the Persian empire is always ignored.
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I've been teaching myself how to throat sing. I've gotten to a point where I can hold a note for a full minute, but I don't know how to make that high-pitched whistling noise that pic related makes.
Paradox just came out with a DLC focused on nomads and the mongols etc. Friend told me it was really good if you are willing to be a paypig for paradox
>>1309170 creamapi exists lol
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>>1309227 this is true
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>>1236110 No one that would fund the relevant media would benefit from steppe history becoming popular because most countries have a 'digested' nomad population (not gypsies, those are something else that is more sinister) and them regaining an identity would lead to political upheaval. This is less prevelant in the american continent but they don't really know much about these settings in the first place since the above prevents it from reaching them. Chinks will make a lot of Turko-Mongol content but they will cast everyone as chinese because whenever a region of china got taken over by horse riders they would become "chinese" by marrying someone from a local dynasty and settling down to rule over their new subjects and it's part of chinese larp to try and use that to act like they won those battles. Funnily enough, Bilge Khan's Orkhon Inscriptions have multiple lines about not trusting/intermingling with the Chinese even if you fall in love with one because they will betray you no matter what.
modern education doesn't discuss mongol history in the west, and the only exposure modern generations got was the episodes of southpark where that one dude built a chinese wall surrounding the town and mongols attacked it repeatedly.
mount&blade is all you need. let's hope bannerlord will be fixed some day.
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>>1309622 >Chinks will make a lot of Turko-Mongol content but they will cast everyone as chinese because whenever a region of china got taken over by horse riders they would become "chinese" by marrying someone from a local dynasty and settling down to rule over their new subjects and it's part of chinese larp to try and use that to act like they won those battles. To be completely fair China is very good as assimilating invaders into becoming Chinese. The basic pattern seems to be >attack China >conquer China >rule China >become China
>>1309227 >creamapi I read it as "creampai" and yes, Genghis Khan most likely did a lot of that when you think about it.


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