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Undertale/Deltarune Anonymous 04/25/2025 (Fri) 04:58:53 Id: 013f88 No. 1251021
How do you think the conflict between kris and the soul/player is gonna end?
>>1251021 It's gonna end with her and my vessel having a huge kissing fest.
I would hope that we could somehow become friends with and help Kris outside of controlling him like a puppet, cause I don't hate the guy even though he seems to hate us :( also surprised to see the last thread actually get pruned
Temly moment where Berdly is only clothed in an invisibility cloak and makes Temmie find him by the sound of his voice—all she has to do is bring up his fantasy trading account from 7th grade
Only around 40 days left... I really hope it will have been worth the wait
>>1251436 Well you'd hope. That little white dog has been working so fucking hard and is infinitely scared it won't be what the people want.
>>1251442 I feel like Toby and the team definitely have worked super hard, but did he and his team work super hard in the right way? I mean, will we really be able to see and appreciate all these years of hard work that must have been poured into these two chapters once we play them? Or will it all go ignored by most, as most or all the effort, all the struggles Toby and his team must have constantly experienced, stays hidden away from us, leaving us feeling like we received a product that will not meet the expectations after all of these years of wait?
>>1251500 I'd say no matter what people are gonna appreciate the hell out of it because it's Deltarune. Hell, it took me a bit into CH2 to really start vibing with the dark world because I thought Sweet Cap'n Cakes were not that amusing of a trio to start off with.
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im high as fuck nigga kill all pedos
>>1251021 my personal hope is that toby lets us befriend kris by choosing what he wants and by helping him make friends prank calling his own mom after alphys says he's "normal". playing wingman for him and susie. not forcing him to hug a caricature of his brother. those kinds of things. buuuut realistically it'll probably just be "you could've stopped playing at any moment, but you didnt so this is all your fault!" like he did with the halloween hack.
I don't know, and I wasn't born after 2000 so I don't care.
>>1252077 I do hope that we'll have an option to work with Kris rather than against him. Being the antagonist in every route no matter what I do sounds annoying.
>>1252743 This. I want to somehow reach out to Kris as a person instead of being his hated puppeteer at some point.
>>1251021 I hope it is something more nuanced than "Kris good, player bad". This is why I hope Kris is the Knight because I hate the "Kris is a hopeless human that hates the evil player" common fanon take.
>>1253143 "player good, kris bad" doesn't sound any better.
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love ralsei
<it fills the void <it is cancer
>>1253143 Even Flowey didn't see it that way. Chara saw it that way only after took their final achievement away from them by doing it all over again.
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discuss this image
>>1253968 Hyperdeath God booty > water
>>1253968 12 inches > 25 miles
>>1253503 That's why I said I wanted something more nuanced. Kris being the Knight doesn't mean pure evil, the entire scene before sealing the fountain in Chapter 2 already sets that up.
How many hours is >Berdly >Temmie(Tem Shop or Classroom) >Papyrus(UT/DR) >Alphys(honestly don’t see a difference) >Kris >Burgerpants >NCG surviving in the autism fields
>>1254226 I'll answer this question once you explain to me what the "autism fields" are.
>>1254260 RFK Jr sending you to the fields if you’re on ssris so Alphys getting sent there for sure
>>1254305 >No one wanting to get an official autism diagnosis anymore because they don't want to be put on a public list and sent to the mines >Autism diagnosis goes down >"yay we cured autism" I expect this.
>>1251500 Toby was exposed to touhou. He had to have known this would happen and if he didnt he has zero excuse
>>1254226 >>1254305 >Berdly No question >Temmie No question >Papyrus We don't know DR papyrus, and UT papyrus doesn't seem to be autistic, just nice >Alphys Yep. >Kris We don't really know much about their daily habits beyond being a general loner and prankster. I wouldn't necessarily call that autistic. I'll send them just in case, though. >Burgerpants I don't see it. >NCG Don't know who that is.
>>1254316 eh they diagnose just about anyone with autism anyways. there's probably a major flaw in the way they diagnose. they'd probably call kris autistic over him just being a socially awkward loner.
>>1254405 The guy who can’t control his volume understand basic character motivation and dresses like THAT all day isn’t autistic to you?
>>1254405 >>1254456 Besides, you never answered how long they’d last there.
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>>1254405 The blue bunny who leaves Burgerpants obtuse attempts at plausibly deniable flirting in Undertale and outright harasses him in Deltarune
>>1254226 All monsters are autistic. That's why Asriel says they're all weird.
>>1253143 Kris is the creation of a mentally ill darkner who went nuts due to its inherently conflicting nature. On one hand it is a darkner who exists solely to help people and bring them joy, on the other hand it is a weapon created to hurt, bringing pain, misery, and death. It "helps" people by giving them LOVE. It's trying to help noelle find her sister and the player is merely a weapon to facilitate it.
>>1254456 If you're talking about burgerpants, then I fail to see how him being "loud" makes him autistic. If he couldn't "control his volume" he would be screaming nearly all the time, which isn't the case. One of the problems that people have is that they see traits commonly associated with autistic people and assume everybody that has that trait is autistic. >>1254465 >Berdly >alphys NGMI >Kris They get controlled daily by the player, they'll do fine. >Burgerpants He's been in the workforce for a while now, he's fine. >>1254521 >The blue bunny who leaves Burgerpants obtuse attempts at plausibly deniable flirting in Undertale Seems normal, probably just bad at that sort of thing. >outright harasses him in Deltarune Seems like a certain mental illness that isn't autism.
>>1254610 I meant Papyrus
Bobly Jr and his parents in the RFK chain gang
>>1254615 Same thing, unless you count all of his text being in caps as him literally screaming. The only thing I can see as being autistic is his childish interest and mannerisms.
>>1254653 That is exactly how I count it
Please... moar phat Catti...
>>1254606 That letter is from the Chapter 3 schizoboss, Chairiel. Believe me, my uncle works at Tobysoft
Waiting
>>1255425 Deltarune is waiting
>>1255763 It's just a month, bro.
>>1251057 he's male
>>1254610 In what world is food service and farm labor equivalent
>>1256480 40 days* for Chapters 3 and 4** we still have to WAIT years for Chapters 5, 6 and 7***
Thoughts on staying here or going back to the dump that is 4?
>>1256480 Which already feel like an eternity
>>1257139 Multi-track drifting, in case someone posts a beautiful image or genius theory I will never find ever again.
>>1257139 Only reason it was bad was because of one notable schizo who goes around doxxing people, plus temmiefag. Both of which are in this thread anyway
>>1256480 After how many years? Yeah. And after those two (2) new chapters drop, it's back to [WAITING] for chapter 5, 6 and 7. And how many years will that be? Yeah.
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Whelp, 4chin is back. See you around, moe.
>>1257320 You do not have to go back
>>1257320 What are you? a beaten housewife?
Angstrom susie but her big tits are the part of her that looks like that
>>1251021 Hopefully we find a way to separate from each other, but still work together to attain a new future. Toby did say he hoped you could be friends with everyone someday, that should include Kris. However, the road to get there is going to be really fucking complicated. >>1252077 >choosing what he wants You're still controlling Kris even if you think you're choosing what they would want. There isn't a magical number of 'Kris choices' that make Kris decide you're cool and not rip you out, ultimately they still take out the soul to do things on their own because ultimately, no matter what you choose or what your intentions are, you are controlling them. They are not free. I just can't see Kris going along with the way things are, even if they happen to think that the player is good and cares for their autonomy... while said player is pulling their strings. >playing wingman for him and susie. Kris brings up the library to Susie when they're figuring out where to do their project, after Noelle asked them to bring her there. You could argue otherwise, but that doesn't seem to be someone currently romantically interested in Susie when they're helping out a friend with a crush on her. >not forcing him to hug a caricature of his brother. No doubt Kris' opinion of him isn't incredibly (or: Susie-level) high considering that strange connection (among other ones) and the fact that they've only known him for two days, but it's not as bad as you think. Kris can refuse hugs when they want to (seen when trying to hug the dummy a second time in Chapter 2) and considers Ralsei to be a friend (friends, plural, presumably brought up by Kris in the fight against Spamton NEO). They can even "kiss" the dummy (choosing to take a bite out of its clothes), meaning they're comfortable enough to joke around like that. >buuuut realistically it'll probably just be "you could've stopped playing at any moment, but you didnt so this is all your fault!" like he did with the halloween hack. You seem to be forgetting the part in his official, original game where the happiest ending is achieved by the player playing the game, long enough to figure out the requirements for true pacifist. He's moved on from the hack, any returning themes will be properly developed. This is the same hack that considered running away from the Remember Me's to be the moral option, though it was never advertised to the player, meanwhile Undertale has the ACT and MERCY buttons show up as soon as you enter a battle. >>1253143 >This is why I hope Kris is the Knight Genuine question, why do you think Kris specifically has to be the Knight instead of just being A knight (someone who has made a fountain)? Either way, they're risking ending the world, in the second case they even make their first fountain after getting an entire lecture on why it's a bad idea. >>1254606 >Kris is the creation of a mentally ill darkner* Go on... >who went nuts due to its inherently conflicting nature. I find this idea and Knife Knight to be cool, in theory. In reality, I think it would come out of nowhere. More of a feeling, but if a Darkner with an inherently conflicting nature was going to be a main character, it would have been hinted at with greater emphasis on the Rabbicks, Poppups or Virovirokuns, annoying at least or harmful at most. Seems like a missed opportunity for foreshadowing.
>>1257998 >the happiest ending is achieved by the player playing the game and then if you keep playing the game to see what else it has to offer (genocide) you're the bad guy who could've just stopped with pacifist if he didnt want a bad ending.
>>1258207 Yeah, and now the point is "by trying to break the established narrative and its ending you made everything worse for everyone". Snowgrave Spamton NEO basically spells this out.
>>1258207 The point is that it's not exactly like the halloween hack where playing at all is evil. Even in genocide, you're 'the bad guy' as considered by the characters who are naturally reacting to a ruthless killer in their world, and the bad ending shouldn't matter as much as the fact that you got all of the endings because meta bullcrap. >>1258321 ...'glitching' the game and choosing something other than what the game offers you, you're just going to get the same ending, but with added context and suffering that only makes things worse...
Posting from the old 4 thread, looks like he finally finished it.
>>1258567 Cute, but also tragic
Well, while we're on the topic of the hack... I wanted to post other similarities, but I don't have an archive of the other hack doc and I'm too lazy to get more images. Source here: https://archive.is/67gZR >Your heartbeat quickens unnaturally as you approach the door... >This can't be... >DR: Your heartbeat quickened. >DR: It could not be. >Only the dim, pulsating pain in your cold hands keeps you alive. >DR: But, you still feel the power in your hands...
>>1258759 I've been telling people DR is pretty much toby remaking the halloween hack in the actual vision he wanted to make all along (though maybe sanitized), I'd know because I've done the same with some of my personal projects
>>1258795 Will Gaster appear and call you a fucking faggot if you get the NoellexSusie ending?
>>1257998 >Genuine question, why do you think Kris specifically has to be the Knight instead of just being A knight (someone who has made a fountain)? Because I dislike the idea of multiple knights and the idea of Kris opening the Chapter 3 fountain on a whim instead of being premeditated. That's all.
he made it bros... he's finally japanese...
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>>1258826 kris opening the 3rd fountain was premeditated AND he's not the knight.
>>1259261 well yeah probably.
I still don't understand why Alphys was forgiven so easily were amalgamates dangerous or not?
>>1259438 Clearly not, they were mingling with their families.
>>1259261 If Toby takes that route there's a good chance of the story being an overcomplicated mess.
>>1253503 >"player good, kris bad" doesn't sound any better. Course it sounds better. Who wants to be told they're bad for wanting to play the game? That's also not far removed from what Off did.
>>1259169 >creator of Sans from Undertale lol, here's your legacy Toby
Who's giving the best head Asriel or Pants
>>1258807 Hopefully
>>1257561 Timeskip lancer where he's domestically abused by being put in a washing machine spin cycle
>>1261764 asriel would give mediocre head pants would give terrible toothy head and his jaw gets tired every 30 seconds
>>1262567 One-shot where Bratty is giving out head lessons to the others(having to learn it the hard way given her long mouth makes her a little more aware about other's technique)
Deltarune counterpart of Hyperdeath with the key difference that this world's Asriel was far more influenced by human material when drawing him(comics, classic cartoons, whatever you want)
Asriel's art in general with any resemblance to Royal attire in Undertale being stuff he found online when searching up the history of the Dreemurr name Possibly a lore detail implying that the Deltarune timeline branches from Undertale because magic as we know it was all fucked up by Asgore's triple-great grandpa or something
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>>1261764 They give each other fantastic head.
>>1261764 Pants probably gives the cutest head
>>1263168 Yeah he probably gets really flustered and starts purring at the same time.
Stop being so gay
>>1263189 Being gay is fun tho
>>1263270 Yes it is but right now is not the right moment to be gay
>>1263182 I expect he'd be a total virgin about it. Can't pick up chicks, so might as well try this gay thing.
Pretty weird to see the site so quiet after the last week, though I guess most people here were just suffering withdrawal from /utg/ Anyway 40 days left until deltarune before we will have to WAIT an unspecified amount of time again for chapters 5+
>>1263974 I mean 4chan's back. Naturally a vast majority are gonna return to it (even if this site has some cool features that 4chan doesn't have.) >Spoiler At least we'll have two chapters worth of story/lore implication stuff to sink our teeth into.
>>1257523 I was being dramatic. I'll check here fron time to time. >>1257561 Yes
>>1264006 After learning the site was run by feds, I'm not interested in going back.
What the hell is 'sunkus'?
>>1263974 Now we can have slow, comfy threads. It's great
>>1263974 /utg/ has already returned to being full schizo anyway so I'm fine with having a much chiller UT/DR thread here that can just float along.
>ywn have silly cartoon cat and silly fat cat on your balls at the same time >ywn get that Holiday Swirl 3000 I would envy Az if he was real I can’t lie
>>1263974 Some of the "pillars" are also 4chan staff so of course they would leave As for the others, they are so intoxicated in that desire to samefag, ritualpost and exist in a cyclical limbo for some reason I think its better this way >Small talk>>>>>>>>>>Spam
All cat monsters are sterilized ...It's an improvement.
Susie Berdly and Temmie hard at work on the fields Mayor Holiday is there too they found about about her Vicodin
>>1266466 Do you think their emails were included in the leak?
>>1265241 Its so shit I don't even need to post anything there to ruin it. Its self imploding.
Flashback where college-era Carol tries to ask to be sandwiched again but her tone makes it sound like a deadpan joke and she never regains the courage
I wonder what those things will be.
Temmie celebrates finally making it out of the autism fields but then the camera pans down showing how absolutely jacked she is She falls to her…chest, I guess
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>>1271839 "Haha, i lied about chapters 3/4 being done. Fuck you" -Toby "little white dog" Fox
>>1273194 I think realistically it's gonna be maybe one out of the following two: >"Chapter 5 is gonna be bundled with 6 and 7, so you guys better be ready to wait another 4 years!" >Some major change regarding future chapters, maybe 6 and 7 are getting canned since they have never even been mentioned
>>1273243 or... >A release plan for future chapters
>>1273269 Honestly, it's probably something like this. >>1273243 First option here would feel like rubbing salt in the wound. Latter option would cause a complete Fandom meltdown. Definitely not this. The way he worded the tweet makes it sound like it relates to chapters 3 and 4. Although, that might just be me looking too deeply into 3 sentences worth of information.
It's going to be undertale hard mode
Jockington begs his beloved coach Catti to get some solid food or water into her(he just watched her down 5 Blue Balls in one sitting)
>>1273669 Chapter 4 weird route is just Jockington getting Catty into shape.
Fatass Asriel tries to hit the usher slide and just ends up taking his target to the ground and fucking up his knees so he’s stuck on the ground with em
Seth Rogen Burgerpants or Adam Sandler Burgerpants
>>1259516 WHICH families though It's not like they're just one guy each who got individually fucked up by the experiments, the whole point is that it's multiple monsters merged together Who gets to decide Snowdrake's mom gets to live solely with her family again when there's like 2 Vegetoids mixed with her eyes, what about those Vegetoids' families? Is it a custody type deal where the amalgams go back and forth between their associated families? No matter how casually they take being merged together, that'd still kinda fuck up their lives
>>1276405 And that assumes neutrality between the parties Shyren and Aaron are mutually repulsed by each other as of the end of Pacifist(Aaron only having just dedicating himself to not being a creep) yet both their family members are part of Lemon Bread Lemon Bread lampshades this themselves
>>1273691 Strongfat Cats makes Bratty a jealous girl Must become like, a bad bitch to compete
Just learned that Toby's pricing Deltarune at $25. I guess he thinks of it as $5 per current chapter, which in he also said that every new chapter afterward is gonna be free. Sounds alright to me I guess, though I wonder how that'll work with other pricings. Like is it gonna cost $40 in some places lol.
Didn't that pluey samefag on /utg/ try to do the same thing in a previous thread here then quickly clammed up when he realize there are IDs?
/utg/ is sperging out so I'm doing the draw requests here. Hand it over. That thing. Your draw requests.
>>1280116 Can you draw Jerry Undertale getting mad at a screenshot from a site with better moderation he doesn't use
>>1280013 if that's any consolation i "quickly clammed up" because it was filled with retarded /v/ermins and people exchanging softcore porn
>>1280204 Calm down, toots. I'll come back when ya'll behave.
>>1280116 >if you don't mind Chara and Anon sleeping together and Chara hugging Anon to make him stay on the bed >>1280220 So what you're saying is that more people need to post tits on 4chan?
>>1257320 Where do people get the idea it's still working?
>>1280267 Genuinely can't remember the last time I saw Jerry brought up anywhere, thanks for drawing him.
Any orgy scenario involving either of the Cat Sisters or Burgerpants must involve a multiplayer petting session I don't make the rules
>>1280116 Draw Fat Asriel.
>>1280116 Sorry you got so few requests. Napstablook being asked out and getting excessively emotional over the endeavour.
>>1280116 Bobly Jr getting a crazy ass storytime about what those goons were putting his parents through in the autismo work camps
>>1280116 The Fun Gang looking at a countdown screen for Chapter 3+4.
>>1281780 I would have agreed if not for the picrel
>>1280116 Meant to request earlier, but got busy. Kris faces Gaster who's in the family guy death pose
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>>1280116 I suppose I'll throw in a request. Draw Burgerpants and Asriel in the trenches.
>>1286748 Disgusting
Toby Fucks is a filthy yuri fetishist
>>1286748 Wha . . .
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>>1287244 Thank you, very cute I drew this awhile ago but it's the only UT/DR art I have
>>1287244 Thanks for drawing the end of the game for me. If Toby uses this, I now have proof where he stole it from. >>1287167 Sad, but true!
>>1280637 This is really cute
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Thoughts on Knightpants?
>>1287731 In the same basket of "literally never ever"s as onionsan fags and rouxls truthers.
>>1288039 idk about the knight but maybe he could be like a combo of Berdly and Noelle where hed be an ass at first and you think hes the villan but then joins your party after the real villan was some object controlling him, maybe the png of the girl on his phone could do this? hell i bet hell make a dark fountain later in the story when the roaring starts coming into play did toby say if cup nigga was in chapter 3 or 4?
Berdly called LowTierGod his own slur and told him RFK Jr has a plan for him
Does Flowey fall into the "refuses to entertain drugs or alcohol for any reason" camp or the "tries it once and then pretends he does it all the time" camp
Random post from the archives: "Agedown of Susie where we hear her father beating her mercilessly through Roadblox voice chat"
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>>1251021 I enjoyed Undertale and Deltarune Part 1 but Part 2 quickly made it apparent this was a tranny game about homosexual children. Obviously they had to play to their fanbase being tumblr but I don't plan to pay to see where it goes.
>>1288039 >In the same baskin Robbins? Kek, it's cheezerts!
Who #samefag here?
Pluey is so FAURKING FUNNY!
MUH MEEEMEES MUH DANK MEEMEES LE INTENTIONALLY UNFUNNY VIRAL META HUMORZ DEEPITY DEEPITY DOCK, IT ALL FUCKING SUCKS COCK
>>1290168 4channel.org is two blocks down
>>1289569 Genuinely how are you surprised knowing Toby's previous work
>>1293320 playing chapter 1 by itself gives you a different idea of what the entire game would be imagine if toby had gone with the original idea of releasing all chapters together after chapter 1 as the demo, people would go in with completely different expectations you can see that with the early pre chapter 2 work like fanfic and comics, everything had a different, more somber and mysterious tone now everything is centered about noelle and susie's gay relationship and friendship stuff
>>1293393 I wish you would stop.
>>1290168 How dare you..... How f*cking dare you to say Pluey is "le intenionally unfunny viral meta humor"?! You'll be hanged. Count your days.
>>1280116 kris finds out noelle is trans
>>1293995 2 Late
LowTierDog(Doggo took up a streaming career)
>>1294207 its so over
>>1294245 It's Joever
>>1294316 its kanaclOVER
Flashback to Asriel intentionally masturbating for the first time over his bed after nightly prayer(mommy still...[i can't not make this sound like an innuendo] with him so he can sleep) but he miscalculates the 2-3 drips of precum you always get after every nut and soils his [whatever the Angelist religious text is] He spends the next 2 years in deep shame for this
Jockington being turned into an Electromagnet via Catti spell and thrown directly into Tenna's throat to cap off the Weird Route for the chapter
>>1293393 >>1296742 He is so cute...
>Coach, I was, wondering, >Would you, want to go, a little, deeper today? >What? >Well, you’re gonna, have some more, nip today, right? >When you, let me slither, in your, mouth, can I, go deeper? >Jockie… >Choking. Stomach Acid. Vomiting. >Too dangerous. >Please.
>>1297513 Hey, just saw this now! Thanks for doing my request!
Burgerpants busting a nut over the phone but his squash and stretch somehow carries over to the other end of the line, leaving you with a trapezoidal mess for a cell phone
What does the combination of Asriel's psychosexual obsession with power(seems to manifest in his desire to vore things as Flowey) and the Holiday strive for control manifest as
Noelle is a sims girl. She is the second most resistant to our commands after Susie, in that she'll momentarily try to directly resist whereas Kris will, at most, rules lawyer their way out of compliance. The thought of getting stronger, more so to regain control to match her inner strength, is the mental device she copes with her situation with. This, along with the draconian implied whims of her mother, implies the Holiday character to be that of control. Of course, there is overlap between this(social control is backed by hard power) but...I actually don't know how to complete this thought. Is there more to it?
>1305841 >1305719 >1305307 >1301563 >1294586 >1294342 >1294240 >1282602 >1282001 >1281490 >1276470 Go back to cuckchan you'll get more (you)s there. You're being a burden
Alternate timeline where Asgore didn't pull out during one of the contractually obligated wifeswaps and now Kris and Asriel have a little brother everyone pretends isn't sprouting branches on his horns
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Pretty much only a month left to go now Post your theories that will likely get debunked
>>1317992 A world darker than dark, X from the sea (or anything relating to the sea), and friend anything will be things 100% happening
>>1317992 GOAT sex
>>1317992 >likely to be debunked Alvin will be the Knight. Ms. Boom will appear. Lancer, Top Chef, Charles and Jockington will have more suspiciously important dialogue. I'm more confident in the other theories, or we most likely won't see them in Chapter 3/4.
>>1317992 Mayor NOT physically appearing in the Christmas chapter would imply she's more important than I currently think she is She's definitely using some type of Dark Magic to keep the town in check(hence her ability to solo the Wet-Nose Bandits) but I don't think she's THE Knight
>>1317992 Hyperdeath Asriel-like schizoboss in Chapter 3. Asriel's unfinished game would make an extremely powerful darkner for the same reasons the Neo robot created by Mettaton was powerful.
Spamton being spread across a countable set with no interior
Ring ring pick up the phone.
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>>1325616 Moshi moshi
Can Kris stand up to Jimmy Hopkins as far as the Light World goes Even if there’s reason to believe Kris is more athletic than Jimmy(the bathroom jump) can he withstand Jimmy’s toolkit and superior combat technique
>>1329148 His face when I see his cute tiny pp
>>1329451 His face when he sees your cute tiny pp lmoa
>>1251686 >>1253521 Frankly I liked it more when he was black.
>>1331767 H-hey!
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>sctizoboss was both the green crayon AND how to draw dragons
>>1332813 >Green Ranger reads a transsexual Skyrim grimoire
>>1335244 [ ] This Dog is working [ ] This Dog is sleeping [x] This dog is deceased
>>1320064 This feels significantly more likely now to me with the update to the sweepstakes pages >https://deltarune.com/romb/ is obviously a secret boss talking >You access it from https://deltarune.com/ramb/, which was determined long ago to be Kris and Asriel's room in the Dark World >Specifically in the section that represents Asriel's computer with his mouse and pencils(swords).
4chan coming back online really killed this place
>>1335267 it broke him
>>1336484 this place was only filled with /utg/ refugees because their circlejerking thread was dead if you want people to discuss stuff then post stuff people would want to reply to
>>1335244 Catti mentioned, AND confirmed as a petting fanatic? Very hopeful news indeed.
Does the Catti/Jockington combination turn into Jaleel White Sonic or a Jet Set Radio character
>>1335244 https://deltarune.com/assets/audio/h.mp3 >accessed from the same the same page that plays d.ogg if you click 2 WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>>1338652 There's also an ma.ogg, it's supposed to spell out "shadow mantle." Presumably the shadow mantle is the key to continuing the secret route.
If Catty can’t eat oranges(accurate stomach) does this imply she can’t taste sweet or spicy either If so what does she even get out of eating an orange
>>1353464 where is that question coming from? anyway monsters might not work like how animals do despite being based on animals
>>1317992 He'll do the "subversive" thing and make Ralsei the real vilian all along. Turns out the dark towers are bad cause they reduce his power or some shit and he's just mad about that. The "two heroes" bit is complete bullshit.
>>1354209 I think at least half of the fanbase expects ralsei to betray the party or that at least he is lying/omitting info about the prophecy I just hope some fucked up shit happens in chapters 5-7 and the story isn't as straightforward as it seems at first
>>1335244 >https://deltarune.com/thepoorchildren/ If you draw long enough, a tree will appear that leads to a post from Noelle's blog about the egg (https://deltarune.com/egg/). Dess?
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>>1317992 20-ish days left, rev up those theories/wishlists/bingo sheets
>>1354155 She has cat stomach which got her sick from eating oranges so would she have cat tongue In reality it probably works on Krillin logic where she tastes it until she remembers she can't
>>1363788 >She has cat stomach which got her sick from eating oranges so would she have cat tongue where was that stated in canon?
>>1363855 Alarm Clock Dialogue
How does the lens of christian imagery in Deltarune account for Catti and her role in the story—her loyal retard Jockington(also a snake, a christian symbol of deceit and temptation) and occult interest obviously parallels her image as the Messiah, but she is very un-demonic in her motivations and mindset. The christian serpent sows doubt and temptation into God's children, whereas Jockington's statements are mundane at best and non-sequiturs for the rest. Catti does not seem to desire power of any sort, over Noelle's life specifically or even her own foolish mortal family, where one might be tempted to make a parallel about the perfect knowledge of devils compared to the relatively innocent man. One could also argue that Noelle's association with the angel atop a Christmas tree(making her a literal lightbringer) hints HER to be the true Satan of this analogy, but I'm too ignorant to make that argument with certainty.
>>1379182 I really don't think it's that deep bro
>>1380076 Is there not a significance to the so-called devil worshipper who's very un-devillike protecting an "angel" from her supposed corrupter, the same corrupter who we know has been chosen by fate to be the hero of this story against the Angel's plan? She IS worshipping a demon in that case, and her name is Noelle.
>>1380729 Note the flavor text when hovering over the Check ACT >Useless analysis what did he mean by this
>>1381076 People over at 4/v/ are theorizing that these enemies will only appear in weird route because they are holding a funeral for Berdly, since they are ghost, bird like and even have bird like description in their battle text thing
>>1381188 You mean to say that automated chatbots are spamming asinine gibberish while recording as much data on the few human posters there as possible.
>>1380729 https://x.com/UnderTale/status/1925368452124131830 Now what did toby mean by this 2 weeks left
I'm so excited, I haven't looked forward to much of anything in a long time.
>>1388773 Deltarune gives that hype that telltale episodes used to give Waiting to see what happens in the next segment always gets people excited
9 days left, toby shared some concept art https://x.com/UnderTale/status/1926818603979919615 Anyway your chances to write your wishlist/bingo sheet with what you hope to see (or not) is running out.
chara
>>1408465 Is cute
Soon™
Deer pussy
Don't have my save files from chapter 1 and 2, don't know if I should bite the bullet and replay them before D day.
>>1416933 You'll be able to start from chapter 3 anyway, but who knows what you'll miss out on if you do. If you want to replay them you might as well get started on it now. Only four days left before the new chapters.
noone every talks about how you can just take home everything in the computer lab
Very soon!
>>1422071 Game will probably ignore it. Like how it ignores you keeping Asgore's flowers in your inventory instead of giving them to Toriel.
>>1251021 If Toby makes Susie gay, we riot.
>>1422146 maybe but at the same time it would be easy to just put a check there if you have been to the closet or not i can just walk right past after the first dialogue prompt no problem
>>1416933 Less than 3 days left now
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I want to make a Weird Route save but I'm genuinely paranoid that starting it will fuck with my normal save in the next chapters.
So how long is the game supposed to be? I though originally it was going to be 5 chapters but then I heard it was gonna be 8 So what is it?
>>1428740 supposedly 7, but datamines have shown up to 10 but that might be toby fucking up with people I still expect at least chapter 0 to be a thing It could also be like OFF's red room where chapters 8-10+0 are super short
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>>1428775 Guess I'll have to wait until my 40s to see the game finished
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>Mods over at 4 are trying to delete/move the deltarune threads I almost feel pity on the upcoming chaos that will fall upon them in the next 2 days Almost
>>1429602 Like they do with homestuck threads huh?
Warning: seems track names have been leaked Be careful of spoilers since they spoil a lot of stuff that will happen in 3 and 4
>>1429807 Don't worry I'll make up a bunch of fake spoilers to drown out the real ones
Only 12 hours left, Toby posted one last newsletter https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/release-day/
https://music.line.me/webapp/album/mb000000000472f33d You need a LINE MUSIC account in Japan to get more than 30 seconds of the songs! Japanese users, please rip it!
Well, look on the bright side of things, at least this happened the very last day before the game's release
Someon better post a download link when it's released
>>1434315 zip it and put it on files.catbox.moe
>tfw no dino gf
I remember finding someone gave paul blart thing soundtrack or something
All I need to know before I buy is whether it forces Noelle & Susie together or not.
>>1436000 Me too. Also whether or not the weird route is properly addressed.
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WHERE'S THE GAME
>>1437442 Hey, seriously anons, drop a download link
>>1437482 >>1437442 It's on 1337x so I assume it's on most torrent sites.
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Chapter 4 weird route spoilers. I'm really sad that we won't get any proper characterization (outside of abusefag route) or romance with Noelle. She either "le quirky lesbian" footnote character or a metaphor for "(You) are evil!!!!!" Toby really hates her.
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>>1438408 At least you can get a scene with Susie as an Easter Egg.
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heard tubby fuck's new chapter of lesbo romance simulator (TM) flopped LOL!!!!
>>1438421 >You can romance tomboy bully lizard classmate and make her blush. >...or you can rape your shy good natured childhood doe friend. >...and otherwise she will be just a third wheel.
>>1438449 >You can romance tomboy bully lizard classmate and make her blush. I want this to be true but romance is probably a bit of an exaggeration. They still have stopped shilling the other dykeshit. Still this at least adds a wrinkle, though it being hidden is a bit sad.
>>1438461 >They still have stopped *haven't I mean.
>>1438461 We need to go Snoot Game route at some point. It's clear that Toby wants to double down on his dyke fetish and (((deconstruction of heterosexual relationships))) shit. Atleast abusefags are eating good.
>>1438502 Oh there's a straight relationship in it. sans fucking your mom and cucking Asgore.
I have a theory. The Weird Route is designed to be your second playthrough. In the normal route, the world will be destroyed and the apocalypse will be linked to Noelle. The player starts the second playthrough to prevent the apocalypse by all means, but to do so, (you) must do evil things. Probably not true due to the fact that this path wouldn't have been hidden so much in Chapter 2 if that were the case.
>>1438530 So does the Weird Route/Snowgrave actually change anything dramatically? Just seems like it's the equivalent to the Genocide Run.
>>1438502 I would rather not have romance at all, keep that to fanon. Susie's character arc already works fine as her learning what's like to have friends and growing to be a kinder person. She doesn't really benefit from pacing breaking, generic anime tsundere scenes. Same with Noelle. She had an interesting thing going on with dealing with a death in the family that's overshadowed by UGUU~ I-I'M IN LOVE WITH SUSIE-SENPAI!!! and don't get me started on Asriel randomly flirting with the player like some Discord furry RP section because you were just being nice to the guy.
>>1438634 I would have actually enjoyed playing as Paul Blart of all things in these games.
>>1439310 it likely will next chapter since its the festival and noelle is under (You)r control then
>>1439483 Wait this release STILL isn't the full game?
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>>1439725 >Wait this release STILL isn't the full game?
>>1439787 It's been in development since 2018! This is outrageous! Even if the other chapters are being released for free, the asking price for a game that's left unfinished like this for who knows how long is REALLY aggravating!
>>1439725 >>1439793 toby just mismanaged the hell out of it and understimate how long game dev takes still baffling that after expanding the team again, chapter 5 is still coming in 2026 instead of this year
>>1439898 Something tells me a little closer to release or a year or two after, a few unhappy members of that team are going to air their grievances and reveal how much of a shit show the game's development really was. I mean, what else do you think could be slowing down development of a game directly targeting furries, coomers and zoomers not to mention the last like handful of mentally ill women who are somehow still obsessed with Homestuck and adjacent media?
>>1439898 Fucking hell. He even had all the time in the world under lockdowns & this is the result?
>>1439898 >toby just mismanaged the hell out of it and understimate how long game dev takes Just like his mentor.
>>1380076 It was in fact not that deep bro Day ruined
What was it all for Why did Toby make us care about fat cat, even gave her a government name at the start of the chapter
>>1439483 I'm gonna make the prediction that the Snowgrave route is needed to get a good ending. I mean, after that, you have an awakened Noelle with goddess tier powers under your command. Nevermind that everyone predicted correctly that Ralsei is a lying nigger, even he was trying to get you to combat shit in the beginning. Or Toby can just continue to moralfag. There's always that.
>>1441453 I told you bro I told you about overanalysing media
I hear Toby censored the deflowering scene in an update because he's a coward who got cold feet.
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>>1442329 Deflowering scene?
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>>1442386 Yeah, this one
>>1442406 Lol no way! That's real?!
>>1442406 >Soundless
>>1441761 Ms. Cattenheimer please stop dancing in that fashion, you were deeply misinformed.
Surprised there's a active fan base for deltarune here considering how lefty the creator and game is while he also contributes financially to anti white causes. Not judging or anything just noticing. Hope you're having fun with the game.
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>>1443370 >Surprised there's a active fan base for deltarune here UT/DT are rare ones of the recent games who have genuinely amazing metafaggotry writing because it's sincere. Undertale became the cultural monolith of 2010s because of ultimate meta showdown of secret gimmick run that a genocide route is. Similarly Deltarune INITIALLY had two-point good streak of striking gamer gold again with schizoecret bosses. >considering how lefty the creator and game is Given credit where it's due, he's probably the 1% of those lefties who are intelligent enough to seperate their politics from engagement online. >while he also contributes financially to anti white causes. Dunno what you mean unless about it's about these donation crowdfunding scams I think you were obligated to attend to in muttland before the tariff because otherwise it meant burocratical death granted by the outside, granted he became Nipponese with the UTs success but he still keeps business ties to anglosphere There is however terrifying intel from 4/v/ for 2 things. The moment Deltarune needed a team to be developed it's said there are trannies on the team but it could be coped from us they are merely reduced to pixelart slave labour. The grave one is however the foid behind Skullgirls demise has recently joined the team (probably wormed her way in) which opens the paths for: <Deltarune getting compromised on it's vision (deer rape allegory scene was censored within 48 hours) <Toby gets #MeToo'ed and by default DT gets cancelled >Hope you're having fun with the game. It was but unfortunately I cannot help but feel dissapointed.after playing new chapters. The technical output and story development is better than ever but Toby Cox got too experimental and ruined the secret (and "secret") bosses, see last pic.
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>>1443633 >but Toby Cox got too experimental and ruined the secret (and "secret") bosses Expanding this slightly. In true 4/v/ fashion I am on an extreme delusion right know that Toby has cut from the chapters actual schizo bosses who are waiting for the release of entire package to be added back again. Especially since ch 3 teased someone forgotten by tenna, and what would be a path to a schizoboss leads instead to a cutscene reintroducing Spamton for a scene.
>>1443633 Just censoring this alleged deflowering allegory is pretty gay. Like if you were that bold to have it in there then don't back out.
Why I hate Undertale. >The emphasis on kindness and mercy as universal virtues overlooks the complexities of real-world morality, where sometimes tough decisions or self-preservation are necessary. The game’s portrayal of forgiveness and non-violence as always the preferred route might inadvertently dismiss situations where confrontation or self-defense are justified >the most intensive bullet-hell combat is almost unplayable on a gamepad and was poorly implemented for the Switch (I had to brute force the first major boss fight due to how shitty gamepads are implemented) >gimmick boss fights >the game didn't need to 4th wall break as much as it did, it completely broke my immersion at a certain point >90% of the jokes aren't even funny The only things I liked about the game were the graphics and soundtrack. And although I can appreciate having a unique gameplay loop, I don't think it's actually any good
>>1443370 He's restrained enough that the worst he'll usually do is have shitty shipping writing between characters which can be shrugged off as him being a faggot shipper before being a faggot activist. There's also the deal with Kris's gender which's him ripping off Oneshot and only relevant to the 2 people who don't see him as a boy.
>>1443704 I can only bail him on pretense that >Nintendo is breathing down on his neck now Since DT is almost a Switch 2 launch title as it was exactly timed to it's release, but also Mariel Cartwright is involved in the development of Deltarune now which is even worse, like said, Toby is now step away from being #MeToo'ed in western sphere.
>>1443812 More specifically Nintendo of America if it is corporate overbearing going on.
>>1443633 <Toby gets #MeToo'ed and by default DT gets cancelled I doubt it would work on him. Toby's already experienced with shitty fanbases and likely had to deal with years of pronouns-in-bio furries trying to harass him into changing the story. Hell, he had to deal with one of his backers being a degenerate who almost sabotaged UT by recklessly forcing his fetish into it. He also did the smart thing and avoided going full retard on social media during [insert that one event that was the beginning of the fourth reich until it was completely forgotten here], leaving the US completely.
>>1443760 The smartest character in the game doesn't judge you for occasional murder in self-defense and the main villain all but reaches through the screen and reminds you that the compassion you showed was only possible because of your ability to come back from the dead, the inherent hard power advantage you had over your assailants. I fundamentally can't empathize with you on Toriel I've never had a problem with her geometrical attacks I likewise can't convince you that Toby is funny
>>1443838 This is the same company that produced the Legend of Zelda series, they're no stranger to these things(even in recent entries)
>>1443633 ><Deltarune getting compromised on it's vision (deer rape allegory scene was censored within 48 hours) ><Toby gets #MeToo'ed and by default DT gets cancelled Yeah, that'll happen when you put a high risk developer on your team. FYI, she #Metoo'd her previous boss and is currently in a defamation lawsuit with him along with another slut.
>>1444218 You can't conflate american censorship with both companies. They're different branches. The worse thing actual Nintendo did to censor LoZ is remove the Christian & Islamic references.
>>1443760 it's like the story forgets that you're supposed to be Frisk first and suddenly any moral decision falls into the hands of the player as in the entity with infinite power that needs to go out of their way to fuck over the monsters, therefore always being in the wrong by default. It forgets that Frisk's innocent and not obligated to help the monsters, some of which are fully committed to murder. It ultimately rewards an extreme that no sane person would ever attempt outside of a video gamey scenario. The morality shit becomes even more retarded if you go through pacifist first because the very last thing Asriel tells you is to not attempt something like that again when you're in the surface. The story acknowledges that all that talk about pacifism and power of friendship was bullshit and you only survived because the plot demanded so. I'm glad that Toby ditched that shit with Deltarune.
>>1444199 Sans isn't the problem, it's the fact that the true ending is locked behind true pacifism. That means sparing EVERYONE, even the likes of Undyne and Mad Puppet. Forget that Frisk is the victim, if you dare to lay a hand on anyone you get locked out of the true ending and a slap on the wrist with one of the many half-assed, unsatisfying endings. It's not like in Chrono Trigger where you have multiple "true" endings that are all high effort, making it a good experience even if you don't do everything the intended way. It's not the type of game where it's worth your time to experiment with different endings to see all the outcomes because only two of them are worth the trouble. There's a reason why UT fans were spoiling everyone back in the day, insisting that they should do pacifist on their first try. The overall experience relies heavily on it.
>>1444400 Don't forget this is what caused the stigma with streamers, where fans would scream at them for "playing wrong", since the fans wanted to see their reactions to the pacifist ending and the streamers likely wouldn't replay after getting ANY ending, which just caused a lot of them to just not play the game, or not have fun with it
>>1442386 >>1442406 This is like something from archiveofourown
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Of all the people who don't know about the Streisand effect, the one I least expected to be was Toby.
>>1442406 this is rape???
Where do I put the egg in chapter 3?
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>>1442406 >>1445171 I don't see what the big deal is. Kris already hentai minddoe-broke her in the last chapter. This also means that Kris canonically has a penis, by the way. How else would he have raped her in this particular scene? She wasn't drugged so she'd have to be held down. A woman wouldn't even have the strength to restrain another woman of similar stature, much less do so with one hand still free for molestation. The only possible way this works is if Kris is a biological male with a functioning penis. Its officially canon.
>>1445073 Needless to say it was a bad move. Now what's this about Asgore getting cucked? I know there's a dance scene with Sans & Toriel but what's this about Kris covering his head in a pillow because of noise? Was it just a fake out sex joke or literal implications? Will Toby remove that too at this rate?
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>>1437695 Is this the pre-updated version, and also is it legit? Was going to wait until next friday when I got paid but if there's shit being removed I want a version with the removed stuff.
>>1445454 It's pretty obvious that he's a guy. Kris fighting the player over control and the vessel deal are likely based on the idea of silent protagonists being vessels for the player, lacking control over their own life. Normally you have a male protag who's sometimes played by a girl and, to address this, they added female protag options to games. In Deltarune's case, they drew a teenage boy and slapped a they/them on him like with Undertale, except that it doesn't work in this case because he's at an age where one's body is already showing signs of their gender.
>>1445685 Kris comes home from a traumatic adventure to see his drunk mother dancing with a stranger. She's so drunk that she falls to the floor in front of her son. Dinner isn't cooked, the fridge is full of ketchup. Kris goes to his room and tries to sleep, but Sans and Toriel are dancing and talking too loudly. This is all shown in the game. The implication is very obvious. >Will Toby remove that too at this rate? He will not remove his NTR fetish. Toby is a weeb, he knows the stuff. Asgore сuckolding was also in Undertale, but it was shown much more subtly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2E31AcBqPw
>>1445715 it was uploaded to 1337x on the day of release, so it should still contain the funny scene. i only just started the 4th chapter but everything seems alright.
>>1445966 >NTR >cuckolding I haven't played Deltarune, but haven't Tutorial and Ass Gore been separated for years? Considering they split around the time their young son died, and when he's "revived" he looks around 20-25, they've been apart for over a decade.
>>1446119 There's also a restoration mod for the rose on deg mods.
I heard there was a rape in this game.
>>1443370 Toby while a tumblr lefty is actually more focused on creating games then sperging on Twitter about being left wing.
>>1446138 Yes. In Undertale it's clear the love is gone & Toriel is just moving on. In Deltarune they're separated but we don't know for how long or why. She's still being irresponsible by getting drunk to dance with a strange ketchup addicted skeleton all night.
Something I want to note on the rose patch is that as far as I know its only for the Steam version right now which I think crosses out Nintendo from the reasoning. >From what I know Nintendo has a 2 week patch verification process for the Switch 2 (maybe misremembering for a different console?) the patch came after the Switch/game released. From what I heard you still get the wilting rose on the Switch 2 version of the game. Don't have the game + Switch 2 to confirm myself but heard from another anon that its still there for the Switch 2 version of the game.
>>1446528 This seems entirely like a Toby spergout rather than any other people. Again the implications of the scene were vague at best. Calling it rape was just a meme. Toby deleting it makes it infinitely worse than it was. This absolutely seems like his own problem.
>>1446138 In both cases it was Toriel fucking off on her own. When they reunite in UT, Asgore's really happy to see her again but she's unbelievably pissed at him for attacking Frisk and his poorly thought out plan to save the Underground even though she could have stopped him at any moment and still allowed half a dozen people to die because of her empty nest syndrome but hey milf goat mom ha ha she doesn't get called out. In DT it's unclear what caused the divorce (I think it was someone dying again, I forgot) but Toriel has moved on while Asgore is practically stalking her and Kris. Every scene with Asgore emphasizes how lonely and pathetic he has become.
Lefties lost it over this?
>>1446839 I know nothing about this route because I'm a pussy and haven't tried the torrent yet. But my playlist just started playing "Kiss from a Rose" and I can't stop giggling at the implications.
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>>1446839 >>1446988 >That one sichzo on /vg/ was right Holy fucking shit Anons meme magic is real.
>>1447047 what schizo? What did he prophesize?
>>1447050 To give you Anons context some sort back on 4/vg/ made a claim that Kris would buck break Noelle (Deer girl) in the weird route at some point. No one really took him seriously but then this shit happens and suddenly people remember his words.
>>1447065 Sperg I mean I'm phone posting due being at work.
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>>1447065 What the fuck?
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>>1446988 She was totally into it,
>>1447367 She does like being afraid
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I am very funny. (Lie)
>>1445746 Is it too far a stretch to theorise this is also a commentary on how lgbtqabc++ fans often push their forced tranny headcanons onto characters?
>>1447555 Toby would never be that based.
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>>1447555 It's most likely by sheer accident.
>>1448962 toby should just go nuclear and leak everything he should make the rest fo the chapters a giant waving middle finger
>>1443812 >Toby is now step away from being #MeToo'ed in western sphere. Please please please let this happen, I can already imagine the fallout >toby's reality distortion field dissipates >it's ok to talk shit about him now without getting dogpiled >people are made aware of all the obscure vidya songs he ripped off took inspiration from >longtime fangamer buttbuddies cut him off and stop selling his merch >also restore all his old starmen posts out of pure spite >his japanese contacts catch wind and cut him off as well >no longer making music for pokemon as not even gamefreak or nintendo could handle such a PR nightmare >no longer friends with zun, touhou localizations get rewritten so someone else can be credited >no longer friends with sakurai, one final SSBU update released to remove all references to toby's works >hussie comes out of left field with all the shit toby did while living in his basement >brothers chaps remove his music from stinkoman 20x6, get someone to make music in the style of the rest of the game >UT and DR become so uncool that it kills the indie earthbound-inspired RPG craze by association
>>1449542 Can you imagine the amount of turmoil that shit can wind up to be? Might be really catastrophic.
>>1449542 >toby's reality distortion field dissipates And all it took was reindeer rape.
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>>1449542 >ripped off songs >starmen posts >hussie basement Can i get context? What other toby shenanigans did i miss?
>>1449542 I'm going to go ahead and make the incredibly daring act of anonymously predicting Toby Fox will be accused of inappropriate acts with or sexual assault against women/men/minors. He made one of the most popular furfag games of all time, there's no fucking way in hell he isn't doing something retarded on discord.
>>1449621 He also composed music for the YIIK devs and personally promoted their game, then as soon as it came out and got shit on retracted his statement and avoided supporting or associating with them in any way.
>>1449621 >ripped off songs We all know that Toby likes to roleplay as a Japanese dev/composer, which means his music does the same thing that a lot of 80s/90s nip game musicians do: rip off old and obscure songs. There used to be a copypasta going around comparing his songs with preexisting ones, but as time went on it got longer and the comparisons became looser and looser, almost as if someone were sabotaging it to discredit the ones that matter. Still, look up By God Forsaken by Skyfire and tell me it doesn't sound like Spear of Justice. >starmen posts Toby used to post on starmen.net (massive if not the biggest Earthbound fansite, run by the same guys who'd later start Fangamer) under the name Radiation where he acted like a typical 00s teenager and made a bunch of edgy romhacks. After Undertale got huge he had them blank all his posts, ostensibly so people don't look at his old shitposts and think he's still like that now, but it wouldn't be a shock if he had something damning to hide. >hussie basement Hussie let Toby live in his basement while he worked on Homestuck music. I mainly mentioned it as a joke but anything could've happened during that time.
I think looking forward to people being cancelled is kind of cringe
>>1449734 All of this just makes me conclude he's a guy with an ungodly amount of luck that happened to have just the right connections, all the while managing to keep himself untouched by the proverbial bucket of crabs. I'd say he's rather enviable.
So has anything actually happened or is /v/ just angry the Undertail and other Earthbound clones exist and they're just hoping for something bad to happen to Toby?
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>>1449867 That doesn't answer my question. Also what is his all about raping the deer and roses and shit? I've never actually played this game because I don't like to play games that are unfinished and still in development, I've learned my lesson years ago so I don't really know what the hell the context of most of this is.
>>1449947 Scroll up. Lazy bastard.
>>1449800 That's exactly what he is. >supportive family and friends to nurture his creativity and autism, letting him gain lots of practice before he's even out of high school >bill bolin noticing his homestuck fan music and bringing him on board, letting him share in its audience and giving him connections with other artists >friends on his home forum not only having marketing/sales experience from running a merch store, but also contacts in nintendo from all the times they tried to get earthbound rereleased and mother 3 localized With even one of these missing, he wouldn't have a thousandth of the success he does now.
>>1442406 The second video is completely broken for me. Is there another version?
>>1450058 haha sure wish I had that first one :(
>>1450121 me too
>>1450121 you're not alone
>>1450121 Amen to that brother
>>1450121 im sorry anon.
>>1449542 >it's ok to talk shit about him now without getting dogpiled I've seen people mock Toby all the time. Maybe you're just in a shitty fanboy circle. >people are made aware of all the obscure vidya songs he ripped off took inspiration from It's already common knowledge that he ripped off a bunch of existing vidya music. People just don't care because the final result was pleasing, just like how they didn't cared about Miyamoto ripping off Disney or George Lucas ripping off old samurai movies. Shitting on Toby for not being 100% original is also fucking stupid when all creative work is inherently derivative, intentionally or not. >also restore all his old starmen posts out of pure spite You can look up his old Earthbound fangame right now where he wrote Jeff's dad calling his son a faggot. Again, people don't care.
>>1450534 >just like how they didn't cared about Miyamoto ripping off Disney or George Lucas ripping off old samurai movies Or old Konami ripping off everyone or Duke Nukem ripping off DOS Mega Man and Turrican.
It makes me wonder if he changed it because people were specifically interpreting it as a rape (not even a rape metaphor but an actual rape) against what he was trying to convey, as opposed to him writing it explicitly as a rape and then back tracking.
>>1450584 Again, Streisand Effect with this logic.
>>1449734 >anything could've happened during that time Do you mean to imply that he sexually raped hussie the same way Kris did with noelle?
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Carol Holiday needs me?
>>1451086 >My husband is DYING! I don't want to remarry. I only want SEX!
>>1451293 She wants sex with (ME) not Kris.
>>1451375 (YOU) are part of Kris.
>>1451389 He doesn't get a say in what I do to the deer.
>>1451430 Didn't say he would. In a way it's always rape because you're making Kris fuck the doe mom. Rape all the way down.
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>>1451375 >>1451389 >>1451430 >>1451447 >Toby Fox reveals that you, the player, were the rapist all along.
>>1451375 >>1451447 LITERALLY ME
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The scene was changed again. >HYMEN STATUS: BROKEN
>>1451832 For real?
>>1451832 There's a way to make this into "there will be bloodshed", but I don't have enough caffine in my system to try.
>>1451832 How long until its changed to actual porn?
>>1451832 And to think Toby is just making a deer in the headlights joke.
>>1451832 thats an explosive hymen
All this fuss over a fucking flower. Fitting I suppose
>>1449637 The YIIK situation was so funny. I wasn't remotely surprised to learn he changed the rose sprite, because I already knew years prior he had no spine thanks to that.
Is Asgore Noelle's mom's bitch or something in deltarune?
Any screenshots of the hysteria over the flower? All I've seen is people here talking about it.
>>1449852 https://xcancel.com/epicfknwerewolf/status/1931143999877710204 i wouldn't call it hysteria per se, but it has caused a lot of discussion
>>1451832 Now it's just like that one artsy rape comic where it's portrayed like this mass of squiggles & jagged spikes.
>>1451832 It's too late, Toby. This will always be know as the rape moment for now and ever.
>>1452444 trips confirm
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>>1452743 Sexo with Doe
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>>1449542 A man can dream >>1449734 Do you have the (or versions of) this list? I love the music similarity games.
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>>1452442 That wasn't a comic, that was a series of paintings from the 1960s. It's pretty freaky to be honest, I think so many people memed on it because they couldn't deal with how effectively uncomfortable it was and had to erect the irony shield.
>>1453115 It's hilariously over the top & made into being such a big deal on par with the stupid AIDS painting left unfinished. It could only be met with comedic dismissal & ironic memery.
>>1251021 the end of the prophecy is gonna be kris being forced to kill ralsei and susie like in the third secret game, isnt it? also, the knight was 100% the one who corrupted spamton and jevil with the shadow crystals and attempted to do the same to gerson. could whatever seam is gonna make backfire?
>>1452444 RAPE THE DEER DO IT HERE
>Toby Fox made a very clear analogy to a girl being deflowered due to rape >Actually adds real tension and drama to the Evil route <Cucks out due to pressure from his tumblr Sjw fanbase It doesn't matter what he does or how he tries to downplay it's obvious what took place.
>>1453514 Doe Dicking - Brought to you by Toby "The Violent Vulpes" Fox
So the Knight is Assgore
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>>1451832 >artist: Shindol
>bad route is bpdemon rape shit >ok rout is faggot shit vanilla bros... where do we go...
>>1453514 >faggot activists go on and on about women being abused and the importance of raising awareness >someone adds abuse to a story in a way that's not romanticized nor celebrated >REEEEEEEE It's all so tiresome.
>>1453911 There's this at least >>1438421 Too hidden for me to be all that happy about it, though.
>>1453911 If it’s not romanticized nor celebrated, then why does it make my peepee hard? >>1453901 Mods I suppose. It’s funny though, even though Kris is supposed to be a they/them, Susie/kris is still not kosher in Toby’s tumblrina eyes.
>>1453901 Toby is a yurifag, don’t expect vanilla straight romance from him.
>>1454041 There are people who played LISA and get a hard on at the thought of raping buddy, despite the game never portraying the abuse as something desirable. The same happens with Wadanohara which goes even further with its portrayal.
>>1454073 >yurifag I'm a yurifgag. I read a ton of yuri manga and let me tell you coming from the perspective of a yurifag Noelle and Susie fucking suck as a couple. That's not really a surprise, though. Alphys and Undine sucked too. Westoids just do it wrong.
>>1454180 At least Undyne and Alphys had a dynamic going on, the jock and the nerd finding common ground in their interest in anime. They were also coworkers so it made sense that they would already know each other, explaining where Alphys's attraction came from in the first place. Noelle's attraction for Susie feels super forced and the whole thing very one sided. Susie's character benefits nothing from romance of any kind. Her character arc is about learning how to be a caring friend, not a lover.
>>1454180 Alphys is ugly. Noelle is cuckolding the player. That is how Toby “did it wrong”.
>>1454251 >Noelle is cuckolding the player. I think this is a big part of it. I discovered this in games like The Outer Worlds. Whenever there's a romance subplot between close allies while you just sit in the chair going "good for you" it always sucks.
>>1454262 It's worse because Susie is meant to be like the closest friend to Kris so you as the player like her & want her for Kris. Instead Toby continues to tip toe around the idea of making Noelle happy with her crush on Susie.
>>1453901 The most vanilla you are going to get is having a terrible single mom.
>>1454605 Noelle would love having a little sister. Put one in her bitch of a mom.
Why is Toby so cuckold-y?
>>1454678 He's a Homestuck fan.
>>1454662 I was talking about Toriel.
>>1454678 because he is the definition of a quasi-goon who managed to evade association with anyone else from somethingawful or associated groups and as such has come to the erroneous belief that he's free from criticism or ultimate failure as has occurred with every last person or personality who found their origin from that circle (including Andrew Hussie, author of Homestuck, who is already mired in controversy and is by all accounts a big fat fucking failure of a human being despite being the author of one of if not the most popular internet comics of all time). Your time draws near, Toby.
>>1454605 Who she danced drunk with a convience store clerk while Kris was having a breakdown.
LOL
>>1454678 He's that old school style of weeb, I guess. I think the backlash to NTR started around 2011 or so, it was more common and accepted before that.
>>1456689 Why is it that Americans, especially zoomer Americans, can't grok that depicting something =/= advocating for it? And of course the one complaining would have a fucking Owlhouse profile pic.
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>>1456814 Please do not engage with the Twitter screencap
>>1449542 >earthbound-inspired RPG craze by association I think... anon might have a agenda...!
>>1453562 How could he have created dark world if he was with you? The knight can't be outside the shadow world while also inside it. We can rule out everyone that was in the house when the shit went down.
>>1443812 >Toby is now step away from being #MeToo'ed in western sphere Won’t be surprised if this happens, considering his fanbase is largely comprised of the tumblr community. The internet seems to have memory hole’d quite effectively just how bad tumblrites were and still are. What most people seem to have forgotten is that tumblr doesn’t just have precedents for canceling people, but also for harassing them online. They even sent death threats to an actress because her character was the love interest for a character they shipped with some else Sherlock. Also, I trust we all remember the “mostly peaceful protests” they get up to on a regular basis. These are the same people who larp as being le heckin wholesome. You don’t see people bring up these examples anymore when criticising them, for some reason or other. There really should be a “Deepfreeze” for tumblr and the wider leftist movement.
>>1457572 >Sherlock I only remember that time one of the main actors for the show Supernatural married one of his co-stars irl who played a character the Tumblrited didn't ship his character with, and they ended up sending her death threats.
>>1457572 >fanbase is largely comprised of the tumblr community >post a screenshot from reddit Most of the really crazy people from tumblr left and moved to twitter, reddit, and apparently to steam from the looks of it.
>>1457595 Ironically enough tumblr is kinda chill now now that most of the sjws left. I've even found people who have similar views about video games like us on blogs there.
>>1457720 >using tumblr beyond finding specific art sourced there
>>1457726 I browsed the site out of curiosity and found it's readable now that most of the cancer left.
>>1457720 >most of the cancer left after the porn ban And these are the same people who complain about “objectification” in vidya. >>1457595 That’s referring to a current example of what his fans are like. Plus, as has been stated, most of the tumblr community spread to other websites.
>>1457720 Shame about the AI shit.
>>1457720 >>1457758 Tumblr is probably the only freak case where censorship of lewds made things better instead of worse.
Is Papyrus now Kris's step-uncle?
>Rape
They changed it yet again.
>>1460846 a third change? What's different this time?
>>1460995 Toby made it crack which ironically further gives impressions of a hymen breaking.
>>1461033 As far as I know he first removed the rose then added those lines you posted. I'm not aware of any third thing.
>>1461052 He added a red sphere and then he added this.
if anyone is doing a replay rn can you confirm if the NPC in the ch4 eggroom that goes something like >"in here we draw and dont kill eachother" i think he might have been patched out
>>1458224 Leftists never had a problem with lewds in general, or even a problem with lewds of women. They have a problem with straight men enjoying Lewds of women. Tumblr was full of faggots, dykes, and trannies, so of course they wouldn’t censor themselves. They wouldn’t even for lewds they would deem misogynistic elsewhere; the fact they made those lewds for lesbians and bisexual women means it cannot possibly be muhsoggyknees. So long as it’s not deemed to be “for” straight males, it’s koshur. Simple as.
>>1460846 >allegorically deflowering the doe >metafictionally deflowering the doe via patch I have to respect his game
>>1444400 Not like it was a needed spoiler, since Flowey would legitimately beg you to go along with his "plan" after enough repeated Neutrals. Those spared amount to little more than raw material used by Flowey to get enough power to break the barrier in the end, which was always a fitting irony for a people sacrificing human children to free themselves to me. I do find it extremely funny that you put trashbin tranny and monster /pol/tard on the same level of unforgivable though
>>1444378 I view Deltarune as him trying to reclaim that theme he fucked up the first time. He only ever explicitly acknowledged the divide about twice in Undertale's run(interestingly with Undyne and Alphys, two of the most criminal characters in the main cast) yet it was so minor that the majority of players didn't even register them. >forgets that you're supposed to be Frisk first It's hard to imagine anything else when "Frisk" barely exists outside of those handful of incidents I've just described, again something Toby realized he needed to emphasize in Deltarune. And even then, it's made clear throughout the game that anyone who even partially knows what's going on doesn't see Frisk in you, they see Chara/the Anomaly/etc. so I'd say that Frisk is intentionally demphasized until the game comes to a close. I don't really know what to make of the false moral, whether it's just a vestige of the storybook framing Toby needed to start this story or an intentional subversion of it.
>>1439465 I feel the theme could work when you take characters like Berdly and Queen to contrast it, one not being able to tell the difference between platonic and romantic feelings due to lack of experience and other having no picture of the human psyche at all outside of their internet searches. People find Noelle obnoxious in that chapter for other reasons(i.e. this theme getting in the way of her actually being the loyal friend she likes to think of herself as to Kris) but the potential is there.
>>1444378 This isn't much different from stories that say "you don't need superpowers to make a difference" by having the normal human protagonist inexplicably defeat impossibly overpowered demigods who would realistically atomize said normal human protagonists in a millisecond. People usually don't mind, because the story isn't really about the face-value scenario, but what its a metaphor for. Nevermind how poor a metaphor it is..,
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>>1461717 >braces unf
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>>1460846 EXPLODING HYMEN
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>>1462234 looks JEWCY
>>1462339 I'm not sure the 4/v/ newfags will even know what you're referring to.
>>1462365 I intended to post the turkey-carving webm, but I can't find it because I probably gave it a retarded filename the glowniggers deleted it from my folder
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>>1461626 >I do find it extremely funny that you put trashbin tranny and monster /pol/tard on the same level of unforgivable though Think from Frisk's perspective, not the player. You're some random kid who's trapped in a place full of monsters sealed away by humans who are desperately looking for ways to escape, even if it means sacrificing you in the process. You have nothing to do with any of this, it's not your responsibility to help them and preserving your own life would be a natural first priority. This isn't Oneshot where the player has a messianic status, you're victim number 7 in a poorly thought out plan. I brought up those two as examples because even if you listened to Toriel's shtick made the effort to avoid conflict (not every monster attacks you on sight, after all), it becomes clear that ACT has its limits and sometimes words won't be enough. You can't talk your way out of those cases. If the enemy is dead set on killing you why is it your fault for defending yourself? The answer is that Toby tried to copy Oneshot but forgot that in that game the player and the MC are two separated entities. Niko's role as an innocent messiah is never forgotten by the story and they're never judged by the player's actions, even if it's ultimately a video game where you're controlling Niko. The fourth wall shit in Undertale hurts its take on morality by fixating too much on the player and forgetting that you're supposed to be Frisk first.
>>1443760 Why I didn't like Undertale: >the mechanics for sparing most enemies are shallow, samey and often feel like an afterthought >mechanics for fighting are practically nonexistent >pointless, unavoidable random encounters to waste your time, even if you wiped the whole map clean >tacked on inventory management and equipment system that serves zero purpose >the game constantly interrupting you for one-note "quirky" moments >the writing is boring; every interaction feels the same >the only thing that feels fleshed out are some of the boss fights >final boss fight you can't lose >most challenging content is locked behind hours of mindless grinding Back in the days of the demo, it seemed promising. Intro sections and tutorials can be formulaic at times, and the demo did a good job of toying with the formula. The problem is that the game doesn't go beyond what's in the demo, it's just the same thing repeated ad nauseam.
Quick question Just remembered part 3 and 4 are out now Been meaning to replay 1 and finally do 2 Just finished 1 before I remembered that I grabbed 1 and 2 off of itchio If I were to buy 3 and 4 off of steam, would I be able to import the save to the steam version? Thanks!
>>1464028 If you're on windows it should just read your old files assuming they still exist in appdata On linux you'll have to manually move/copy/link the files from the demo proton folder to the full game (if you are using steam instead of raw wine)
>>1464030 Tubular Thanks! Leaving now to avoid (another) spoiler
>>1457720 >>1457733 >most of the cancer left Has it though? Maybe its just a bad time of year to check, but it seems like a lot of it is still there. Or maybe its "explore" algorithm just shills the worst posts.
>>1464633 no they haven't. they're still are going on with their faggot shit and posting cringe memes about being a mentally ill millennial living with their parents or and sending deth threats to people they have a slight disagreement with and whatnot, there. minus the porn (mostly) but otherwise it's no different than before
>>1464819 Makes me wonder what tumblr was like in its first year. Was it pozzed from the get go or did it get infected the same way it would go on to infect the rest of the internet?
I did not play the gay faggot game and do not keep up with it. But why did Toby "please don't look into anything I did before publishing Undertale" Fox add a scene that's a metaphor for deflowering to a funny animal RPG aimed towards children?
>>1465024 IIRC it was fine for a while, just a magnet for retards and people who exposed themselves too much ala Facebook. It became turbo pozzed after Tumblr got purged and they mass migrated there. I know that because Tumblr used to be THE place for western artists and the purge made them move to Twitter whose infrastructure wasn't intended for it.
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>>1464633 >>1464819 Anons trust me I was on tumblr pre sjw, and saw how bad it got after it went full mental ward. The post porn era saw the worst users leave elsewhere, now it still has cancer but it has normalish people using it again. >>1465060 Anon you see it clearly was viewed in the wrong light!
>>1441761 NVM I saw the Shadow Mantle game my hopium is back
>>1465060 To be fair you literally browse through Asriel's porn collection and not-so-subtly explore Kris and Noelle's kinks all in the same chapter
>>1463074 You may act like Frisk would on your first playthrough, killing whoever personally frustrates you to move forward and sparing equally as arbitrarily, but it's hard to justify why Frisk would ever want to replay the game after making it out the Underground the first time. By the time any such morality is mentioned you have ceased representing Frisk in any meaningful way.
>>1465060 Because he's from tumblr.
I don't get why Toby even removed the deflowering thing, after all it's not like it was portrayed as something good. It was supposed to be a horror moment of you forcing yourself on Noelle, I really do like the game and the story still but should have kept it in.
>>1468133 His fans chimped-out about it.
>>1468133 channers liked it
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>>1468924 >channers This zoomspeak is directly attacking my central nervous system, please cease.
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>>1468924 >Channers
>>1468133 He wants his image to be squeaky clean because he's a gaijin pretending he's a humble Japanese dev and got big enough to be in Smash.
>>1468968 >want to be faggot clean to be inside nintendo shit >wants to also be an edgelord and add adult themes to his games something something cakes
>>1468968 The thing is that there's just no way to interpret the whole thing an anything other than a rape metaphor. What ever graphic he uses isn't going to change that. Particularly so because "bad thing" event graphics in UD/DR are blood red and the ring physically makes her bleed just strengthens the whole thing.
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>>1468924 >channer you some kinda newfag?
>>1468947 >>1468956 >>1469832 oh sorry is channer a slur? is channa more acceptable here?
>>1468133 >it's not like it was portrayed as something good The usual psychos refuse to even keep fiction and reality separate and flip-flop between "death of the author" and "heretical interpretation = lack of media literacy" according to convenience, why do you still expect them to give a shit about authorial intent? >>1468924 Gratz on baiting all the tryhards.
>>1469998 No, it's a fucking embarrassment said by newfags. Just say anons like a normal person.
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How disappointed are you going to be when Gaster's canonical appearance is revealed and he looks nothing like the silly guy we know and love?
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>>1470862 To a degree I hope he never shows up, Gaster being some scientist that fell into the CORE and got his very soul spread across existence is a cool metanarrative hidden in the game's data. But the fact we've seen some of the Gaster followers' "true" appearances makes me think Fox is going to do exactly that.
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>>1457572 I apologize beforehand for giving you existentional crisis. But I feel a righteous vindication as an AUtist slightly on the younger side who kinda grew up with Undertale in teenage years and then became the mongolian-basket-weaving internet forum user (((the media))) declares literally hitlers, while the average faggot my age that sent death threats to youtubers who played the genocide route (the fucking thing that made Undertale into a modern classic and earned half of it's popularity) has almost always trooned out and now they are fullblown crusade to harass anyone who \\\misgenders/// Kris.
>>1469998 Is “unalive” a slur? No, and yet children are correctly bullied for using it. Why is it correct to bully them for saying “unalive”? Because it’s the height of braindead normalfaggotry. Same as the word “channers”.
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>>1470862 My theory is there are two Gaster's inbetween dimensions, one where he's the man behind a tree (probably Gaster Deltarune) and a Humpty Dumpty shattered everywhere (most likely Gaster Undertale). This could satisfy the both of our silly guy and dimensional horror thing. This theory stems from my belief slightly amplified by Chapter 4 that if go with Sans Deltarune being an actual asshole, he may have done a way worse thing like forcefully swapping place his counterpart that is our beloved Sans Undertale. One thing to check for sure is to see if Sans Deltarune would dust away if killed, if he would Sans Undertale is actually Sans Deltarune and Sans Deltarune is actually Sans Undertale.
Okay I'm stuck on this tv-headed fuck but I keep seeing memes. Does kris really walk in on his mom getting dicked down? Because that's kinda fucked if true.
>>1471663 No she's just drunk dancing with Sans all night.
>You can move the red dot after the Noelle "rape" scene. Huh, seems maybe we were wrong and we're just literally pushing a soul onto her... oooor, she got impregnated.
>>1471663 > Does kris really walk in on his mom getting dicked down? It's more of Toriel is dancing and drinking herself without restraint with a convenience store guy that just arrived to town few days ago while Kris has more than enough and just wants to go to bed. Later with the soul in the cage and Kris on the bed he cannot bear the music getting louder and Sans and Toriel voices getting interchangeably faster. The scene is constructed in a way that you can deny they were just dancing and throwing puns together but "knowers" have too good of an experience for other people having sex next to your room. In a way original weird route scene is less rapey in it's aspect, than this scene Sans not! fucking Toriel.
>>1471688 What are the chances Toby adds a Sans boss fight in the next chapter?
>>1471688 Watched the scene, the rimshots weren't exactly helping things. Anyways I'm gonna go kill papyrus on a neutral run of undertale. You know, for catharsis.
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meh, close enough
>>1472437 Doe broken
>>1471688 toby will still go ahead and make him the nice guy moralfag with a dark side even after banging ur goatmom on repeat.
>>1472437 Oh deer.
>>1469998 no but we'll call you a faggot for using that though and crying about won't help for a normalfag like you
calling it now, this will be the ending <"Th-They don't... I mean.." >"Heh, that's where you're wrong, Noelle" <"H-Huh??.... You can talk??" >"That's right. It's not they/them anymore..." >"In fact. I'll let you in to a little secret. Heh..." >"...It never was they/them..." >"It was always HE/HIM AHAHAHAHAHAHA" <".....no...No....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" >"THAT'S RIGHT NOELLE. IT WAS A PENIS. A FUCKING PENIS" >"YOU, A LESBIAN, HAVE BEEN IMPREGNATED BY KRIS "NOT FRISK" DELTARUNE" >"AHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAA" >*noelle drops to her knees, sobbing knowing that she's carrying kris deltarune's child*
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>>1472742 not funny, cringe even
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>>1472742 Go back to whatever ERPing hellhole you crawled out of
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>>1472742 >"Please ridicule me" the post
Maybe something changes in ch4, but I really don't get the shipping between Noelle and Susie. It seems entirely one-sided with Susie being either oblivious to or ignoring Noelle's advances. She seems to have more chemistry with Kris and the two get along much better. If anything, Noelle seems kind of skeevy around Susie.
>>1475965 Susie just wants friends, Noelles obsession feels like she's taking advantage of Susie. Susie clearly shows she could become friends with the dyke deer in chapter 4, but to make it a romantic relationship just feels wrong.
>>1475965 >>1476053 The interesting angle would be that Noelle confesses in the normal route but Susie doesn't get it at first. When she does she admits she doesn't see Noelle that way. Kris and the soul is obviously Susie's best friend & the only one she could really see in any sort of romantic light. But this is Toby Fox. The same man who just had Undyne immediately fold & be in lesbians with Alphys. I worry he really is too much of a yurifag, like others have said, & will absolutely sacrifice all the chemistry built up between Kris (You) & Susie
>>1476276 >>1476053 Yeah, unfortunately I think radiation is going to shove some yuri via susie lobotomy into the later chapters. I hope not, because Noelle really feels like she'd try to somehow trick susie into it.
>>1476591 >>1476276 >>1476053 >>1475965 I think the "shipping" on Susie's side comes from when she's looking at the prophecy stuff. She sees something about love and then asks about Noelle so Toby is probably already on his bullshit.
>Tenna talks about des before the rock section >Lyrics he gives, before ralsei edits them, is about basically The Roaring >Tenna has been in communications with The Knight >The knight has horns similar to Noelle's >Kidnaps Undyne and goes to a place with a code that can only be accessed by the police chief or a member of the holiday family >The weapon the knight uses looks vaguely like a bat I'm assuming that the knight is Des/Noelle's sister and this is some sort of spoiler. But it's also hilarious
>>1475965 >I don’t get the shipping Lesbians, simple as.
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>>1476591 >>1476276 >>1476629 Considering he went out of his way to say anything Kris had with Noelle is forced just to more firmly push her against Susie, I would not give a tumblr alumni anywhere near the benefit of the doubt.
>>1477313 the knight is actually noelle mother, and her weapon is not a bat but the fucking katana she has in her kitchen.
>>1475965 Susie doesn't even mention Noelle when she was talking about her friends to Tenna. It's 100% a one sided crush that's entirely superficial as the two never interacted prior to the events of the game. Christ, people shit on Undyne and Alphys in UT but at least they were coworkers for years and had a common hobby. The idea of them growing closer wasn't that unbelievable. I already hate the shipping crap in DT but this one in particular is by far the worst of the bunch. I'm holding onto the hope that Toby's aware of their lack of chemistry and won't make them a thing. Have Noelle be rejected and temporarily join the dark side. A love interest doesn't add anything to Susie's character. Her journey is about making friends.
>>1477499 >Considering he went out of his way to say anything Kris had with Noelle is forced just to more firmly push her against Susie, This goes against everything in the pre-escalation weird route where Noelle dragged Kris into her room for a talk and had a touching scene of how happy she was to meet the childhood friend Kris she once knew. I am fearful of his mental illness that is yurifaggotry but I refuse to believe the man who wrote the Weird route escalation scene in Chapter 4 doesn't see how dysfunctional Noelle is in the normal route with Susie. Like even beyond yuriniggerdom, Noelle wets her panties for Susie at her worst breathing in and out self-loathing and that's literally it.
>>1477543 Have you forgotten korrasami? If it’s a gay ship, tumblr WILL ship it. Chemistry isn’t part of the conversation. Toby is from Tumblr, you really think he won’t make a lesbian ship canon? Noelle was made for the express purpose of being Susie’s lesbian girlfriend. Literally made for big purple dinosaur fist. The only straight ship he canon’d is Soriel.
>>1477639 Toby's experienced with autistic fanbases like Homestuck and Touhou. He of all people would be aware of how shipping is better kept to fanon because unrelated romantic subplots derail the story and hurt characters. I would go as far as say that Deltarune doesn't even need romantic subplots of any kind, considering how the main characters already have their own internal struggles to worry about on top of the main conflict. The Noelle X Susie scenes stand out because Noelle's character has been reduced to a walking spaghetti factory, with the alternative being Snowgrave where it's just swapping one kind of fetish bait with another. She makes Alphys look good.
>>1477675 >Toby's experienced with autistic fanbases Is there any reason to believe he wouldn’t capitulate to his autistic fanbase the way his cuckold Mentor did?
>>1477675 Toby worked on Homestuck with Hussie. Hussie absolutely bent the knee to Tumblr in exchange for money and fame. It became unrecoverable once he hooked up Rose and Kanaya despite anti-chemistry and her being paired with John before that. Hussie couldn't write the romance for shit but all Tumblr cares about is that it happens. I have no reason to believe Toby won't follow the same path as his friend. I'd love to be wrong, but my confidence is basically gone.
>>1477705 It feels like he's at war with himself, one part is the tumblr sjw and the other proper storyteller.
>>1477736 Personally I think it became unrecoverable when he replaced the main kids with the nu-kids that had tons of gay literally in the case of the dudes relationship melodrama that made the trolls’ look reserved in comparison. Wait, was Rose dyke’d before or after that? I don’t remember.
>>1477927 I think it was more or less right around the same time. Basically right while the new kids were having their introductory arcs he'd cut back to what the four originals were doing. It basically went to shit all at once.
>>1478023 I heard somewhere that this tumblrina got involved in homosucks production and made Hussie canonise a lot of gay shit like “davekat” and Bro being abusive which which she had previous wrote erotic fanfics about. Is that true?
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>>1478118 I'll be honest, anon, I tapped out after the dykification of Rose (I'm the one who wrote pic related), so know very little about the drama or people who might have joined Hussie in the back part of the comic. That certainly could have happened, but I don't know any details.
>>1477927 >>1478023 Funnily enough, both these happened after a specific in-universe event: The Scratch. So you could say everything went wrong after that. >>1478118 Toby doesn’t really have that excuse, unless he got groomed. That said, even if the lesbodyke ship happens, it wouldn’t be gayer than anything in Undertale. Tumblrfags typically make increasingly pozzed content as they go on, but it doesn’t appear like Deltarune will be more gay than Undertale was. If nothing else, we - the player, are able to doe-break the deeryke into submission. >>1478227 Glad you’re still around.
>>1478227 As far as I'm concerned, Homestuck ended after Cascade. Everything past that point was just a downward spiral. John being in a relationship with Roxy and Terezi was the only high point, and hussie trooned out John and Roxy, and then killed John off as well.
>>1478299 As far as I'm concerned Homestuck ended when the Trolls were introduced. It's all dowhill from there.
The realization that Ralsei isn't (just) an Uwu femboy but basically an AI gaining sentience is a lot more tragic than I thought I'd be feeling over this stupid goat. Between the cake scene and seeing his room I'm almost not looking forward to when he inevitably turns into a boss we've got to fight. I mean his room is at the end of the "final boss of the dark world" hallway so it's only reasonable that every chapter will add a new door until his is reached.
>>1478653 The judas goat will garner no sympathy from me.
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The 4chan deltarune threads and undertale yellow threads are getting deleted... Can we come here?
>>1479304 Why were you over there to begin with?
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>>1479308 I don't even know at this point
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>>1479308 discussion's a little livelier over there, as much as i'd love to stick on 8chan it's just not got the userbase to shoot the shit in quite as much
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>>1479304 Can you promise not to act like annoying zoomers treating imageboards like a Discord?
>>1479304 >>1479355 There is the /mtt/ board but that is only used by the fangame dev anons (and even then they rarely post there anymore)
>>1478653 I wish he would stop randomly making innuendos. I figured it must be a side effect of hanging out with Susie but it feels too much like fan interpretations of him where he's a giga pervert.
>>1479379 I wonder if the newfriends are aware of the meme we had about him being the harbinger of a 'homosexual'' apocalypse .
>>1479341 And you'll never be able to abandon that corpse of a website unless you accept that during the move the discussion will temporarily slow down.
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>>1479431 >temporarily my dude, my guy, my [[Little Sponge]] you have to understand this is not a 'temporary' slow down, threads over here will always be slower than over there that's just the natural truth of the matter, over here may be better in every regard but that doesn't translate to a reasonable thread pace i mean hell scroll up 50 posts here and you're two whole days back, that's several bump limit thread's worth of discussion on the ol' halfchan the worst thing to sell [[A Great Deal]] is to pretend its flaws don't exist
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>>1479395 >harbinger of a 'homosexual'' apocalypse That's an interesting way to put it. Does that make the homosuck true ending canon to Deltarune threads? I wanna see John Egblart now
>>1479763 And if the amount of people changes so will the volume of discussion.
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>>1480030 well yes that is how it works, but pray tell do you SEE that many people coming here? because if they didn't before when the whole damn site didn't work, what makes you think they'll come over this time? when the oh-so-attractive idea of "haha it make janny mad" is still on the menu?
>>1475965 its setting up to get nuked from orbit at the festival just like asgore is being beat down constantly to set up him being important in chapter 5 trust the plan
>>1479998 Honestuck really is the story of four kids who just wanted to play videogames, but kept getting groomed and trooned out by people on the internet. The only functioning ship by the end of the story (before the shitty sequels where Hussie wasn't even at the helm) was a heterosexual one, and the literal main antagonist was a Cal, who was some sort of tranny that literally thought vanilla romance was the most disgusting thing that could be depicted. I like to think that, deep in his subconscious, the hussie that drew these was influencing things until the very end, in subtle ways.
>>1480051 >>1475965 I believe this with susie likely being afraid/trying to change the prophecy, so she might reject any potential love advances on her (mindbreaking noelle and causing her to become the angel anyway)
>>1480069 >Snowgrave happens regardless of our decisions TOBEEEEEERT!
>1 2 2 (Kris interrupts) If this code is fucking christmas I'm going to steal Carol's information because her password is probably "Holly Jolly" or something
>>1480229 even noelle's watch is stuck at 12:25, that family cannot stop thinking about christmas for even a second
>>1480229 dude look at their fucking house
I wish Tenna was my friend
Tobias “Radiation” Fox may be a massive tumblrina with a penchant for lesbians, but his games have left more of an impact on the cultural zeitgeist not just compared to other tumblrite games but also most other games from the past decade and a half in general. You have to give him that.
>>1480703 I wish Tenna had been episode 2 instead so he wouldn't have been overshadowed by Spamton.
>>1481338 Well Tenna is not the Spamtom equivalent, he's the King and Queen equivalent. And I think he beats both of them easily.
>>1478227 I made some AI songs based on your post. I had to shorten it a bit though. >>1477736 >>1477927 >>1478023 >>1478118 >>1478227 >>1478269 >>1478299 >>1480052 There's a homestuck thread on /co/ https://8chan.moe/co/res/45024.html >>1481387 >Well Tenna is not the Spamtom equivalent In terms of personality and appearance he's pretty similar.
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>tenna was the original and spamton was derived from him in reality and not just in the story
I really hate this pumpkin fight. It's like Toby saw himself developing a drop of sincerity, what with the plot of the knight, the church, the music and atmosphere being classics for the RPG genre. He saw this and thought "damn, this is getting too good. Let's add a le-funny pumpkin man gimmick fight in the middle"
>>1482884 Like I get it: game's a haha funny RPG but even abridged series know when to play parts straight.
>>1482884 You can skip it with Tension bits/gems, but yeah it drags a bit too long due to how slow TP builds up in darkness
>>1482884 YOUR LONG It is funny that Gerson lectures you about irony poisoning and a lack of sincerity not long after this.
>>1482884 I thought the fight was really good, it might drag on if you suck.
>>1482884 His fight is actually super easy and it's a tutorial to the boss of the chapter. He doesn't chase you until AFTER you get the key, so take your time and go slow, collect ALL the bits before you get the key, then go to leave, but honestly it shouldn't last more than about 5-6 turns. On the plus side it's made the normalfags re-appreciate youtube poop voice editing.
>>1478653 > I mean his room is at the end of the "final boss of the dark world" hallway OH FUCK
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Noelle's secret.
>the roaring knight can be beaten in ch3 I guess I'm not that surprised but it seems nuts that those attacks aren't meant to be instantly lethal
Does anyone know which data.win files work with this mod? Trying to un-troon Kris and it only works for the first chapter with the xdelta patcher. https://gamebanana.com/mods/493817
>>1491559 Shadow Mantle cuts the Knight's attacks down to 1/3rd damage.
>>1492283 >comments locked lmao
>>1492283 Make a mod replacing the pronouns of all the other characters with "they". See if the bananna-jannies ban that one for "misgendering". They of course wouldn't
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that the roaring knight is quite similar to the knight in Moon
>>1494624 Not quite, the knight in Moon keeps killing monsters to level up and become stronger, we still don't know what are the motivations for the Roaring Knight as it isn't just killing people, it doesn't even kill Tenna. And in chapter 4 it is just kinda standing there.
>>1494686 The Knight in Moon does what he does because he thinks he's saving the world from the Dragon, could the Roaring Knight think he's doing everyone a favor as well? I also think there's something beyond just that since in Moon the Knight came to be after the king sacrificed a kid (the one the player replaces) to become the Knight, perhaps something similar happened to the Roaring Knight and Kris since we the player keep taking the place of Kris the character
>>1479304 Welcome aboard. Let the cuckchan babies have their twitter screencaps and shill bots.
>>1475965 Noelle likes Susie, Susie likes adventure. Susie hears Noelle confess her love in chapter 2 and doesn't reciprocate the feeling in chapters 3 or 4, only wanting to be platonic friends and wanting to hangout. The only reason Susie spends time alone with Noelle in chapter 4 is to distract her while Kris looks for clues on the bunker, we know this is what she's up to because she berates Kris for making too much noise during the closet scene without revealing him to Noelle. If Susie has feelings for anyone, it's Kris. Her initial plan for defeating the titan in chapter 4 was to throw Kris into it, but instead decides to slam dunk him into it so the both of them can destroy it together. She knows that only he has the power to stop it, but still decides to follow him down.
>>1493409 Same mod, just reuploaded. Also I'm dumb and blind and stupid and didn't read that the GB page actually lists what versions they're intended for... now to find the data.win files.
>>1475965 >>1501947 Doesn't help that Susie was ignored by Noelle during the lowest moments in her life and Kris/Ralsei are the only reason why it picked back up again. Toby's probably gonna do a Noelle/Susie bullshit (best case is that he keeps it vague.) due to the tumblrfags pushing for it. I don't think Susie would feel that way about Kris either, if anything they've got an excellent 3 amigos chemistry and romance between any of them would utterly ruin it. Fucking keep them friends, too. If we get a chapter that seriously fleshes out Noelle's and Susie's relationship past awkward I'd be more accepting of it though. As it stands? Not out of left field for Noelle, but would be unexpected to see Susie super into Noelle when Susie's barely mentioned Noelle. It would be interesting if there was a Kris->Noelle->Susie love triangle deal but I think most executions of that concept would also drag down the damn plot. I'd rather spend the time having Susie's friendship between Kris/Ralsei painfully (read: short-lived angst) tested but with a positive resolution. I'm a bit biased because I'm finding Susie to be one of Toby's better written characters, and writing romance of this shit well is difficult.
>>1502204 > don't think Susie would feel that way about Kris either, if anything they've got an excellent 3 amigos chemistry and romance between any of them would utterly ruin it. Fucking keep them friends, too. the profecy even said and the girl will know love so susie or noelle will fall for somoene and if its not kris or ralsei who is gonna be? fucking birdley?
>>1502632 >fucking birdley This is honestly the best possible ending just because it'd piss every shipper off except for like three people who will have the best time online. I also need Asriel to somehow fuck up Carol so that all three of the Dreemur men have one of the Holiday women they're responsible for ruining. More importantly, I found this gif, So now I need to find an artist who will draw Carol kicking down Toriel's door and berating her for divorcing "all of that" while simultaneously wondering how they only have one kid.
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>>1502768 >3.27MB how
>>1490620 Never ask Noelle about her grandparents
>>1502933 Oh yeah, your version lost no quality for sure.
>>1492283 https://gamebanana.com/requests/77394 the fucking video on this is killing me >CYKA >the fucking annoyed groan when he sees the knights KEK
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>>1509536 >when he sees the knights
>>1509547 the way he fucking explodes on toriel with russian screaming CYKA out of nowhere is murdering my sides
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>>1509536 this is fucked up, poor guy fears for his life and THIS is what he gets back it's a cruel world over there in bananaland
>>1509565 PLOT TWIST OF THE CENTURY
>>1509595 he's a daring man, risking his life for a shitpost
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>>1509703 holy shit I forgot about that part
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https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/gazettenet/name/andrew-hussie-obituary?id=18554234 >andrews hussies mom's maiden name is holiday what the FUCK does this mean
>>1518387 What about Hussie? <b-but Fox did music fo- Over a decade ago. He's a hasbeen with no relation to UT/DR.
>>1481305 He can't write a story or a romance to save his life, but damn can he make some fun gameplay, and some jammin tunes. He deserves that much credit.
>>1251021 Naughty Route. Plap the everyone until exploded.
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>Kris looks away and blushes when susie grabs his knife >His long and hard object that he uses to penetrate things like his mom's hot pie
>>1532157 >Hit reply instead of the button to add a second image. I'm retarded. Anyways... >Watches her make a dark fountain with his knife >that she's double-fisting >Poor guy probably had to hide his raging semi from seeing her do that.
>>1481305 >but his games have left more of an impact on the cultural zeitgeist not just compared to other tumblrite games but also most other games from the past decade and a half in general. I can believe this. Especially since if it's true, and if conditions have been such that it could become true in the first place, it explains the Western world's current state.
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i find it weird when people champion undertale/deltarune as the ultimate examples of sincerity in gaming, knowing the origins of toby's sense of humor specially when sites like tumblr always had irony posion and even people being cynical towards anime something tells me there could be a chance of deltarune having a cameo of dril or mega64 the real "tumblrisms" of ut/dr aren't the furry characters or the lgbt elements, more likely they're the type of humor when you consider the roots (i'd also bring up the differences between "tumblr cringe" and "deviantart cringe" where tumblr always had overt self-awareness, self-deprecating humor and even some cultural overlaps with somethingawful while deviantart feels alien in comparison because it's weird kids not even thinking about how the outside world sees them) (could also be because tumblr is full of millenials who also invest in politics to feel more mature than they are) it feels like people nowadays (and maybe as a side effect of "internet brain rot" or troll's remorse) define sincerity as "anti-cringe culture", as if simply including colorfull furry characters makes your work sincere so by this logic: david lynch's art for example can't be sincere because it doesn't have colorfull furries or poorly drawn anime characters but i also believe toby himself might be aware of this, which explains why he'd ever want to go to japan because barely does irony exist in anything from japan maybe he even sees pieces of irony and the likes on his western fans but he probably doesn't entirely regret his history with tumblr if it got him into things he did like
Is this canon? I think it's canon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHMHng7w1hQ
toby could pull a fast one in everybody and make the snowgrave routhe the only way to get the good ending. Imagine if in chapter 5 after getting the last shadow crystal you have the option of remove the thornring from noeles, but doing so, it takes you out of the snow grave route. Then by combining the the thornring and pure crystal you get the twisted sword, the only weapon capable of changing the profecy and getting the good ending.
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>>1481305 Truth. He's given me way too many smiles that have to be protected.
>>1539773 >Fixing the deer I worked so hard to mindbreak What sort of good ending is that?
>>1539773 or you could just... abort in chapter 2 and keep the thornring so the worst you have to do is freeze a few programs
>>1541256 There is still the snow grave route ending, what im suggesting is a diffrenet ending that can only be access by doing (at least partially) the snow grave route. >>1545297 FUCK, youre right. people would be able to get it without getting their hands dirty.
>>1490620 >Kris and Susie inviting Noelle to come hang out with them
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>>1559032 Hate Catty's dad but I did it. Fucking skeleton bastard.
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>>1559032 this fucking game is harder than it looks but I love it eat shit sans it's also on newgrounds https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/987750 protip: napstablook doesn't slow you down, he just fades away. Sticking to the left seems easiest because Noelle is a pain in the ass with how she walks through the road
hmmmmm
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So chapter 5 is confirmed to have Asgore running over Dess, while Noelle sits in the cuck chair and watches Kris deflower Susie? Am I missing anything?
>>1604708 Hopefully Asgore runs over Sans too.
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People are saying this cunt from “Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?” looks like Noelle. I honestly see some resemblance
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I've seen a few theories floating around that the "true ending" will only be reachable by doing the weird route and I really hope its true. I want to see the people who swore it off having to go back and mindbreak the deer for the greater good.
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Is this alright for the roaring knight? I was gonna put dealmaker on ralsei but decided not to since susie is carry the team.
>>1771951 died on the glowing hands attack. Only susie was alive and I opted to pick up kris instead of defend.


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