>containment What containment? Eceleb talk isn't leaking out anywhere, you just want to talk about ecelebs like a gossipy teenage girl. Can this not go on /vb/? That board was literally made for 4/v/ tier threads.

>>1562205 A few days ago, someone made a thread about Synthetic Man, and it got deleted because of Rule 9, and we've had e-celeb threads from time to time, plus a lot of the SKG thread was just shitting on PirateFagware and lightly talking about e-celebs promoting the movement. So anons can just use this thread as an opportunity to shit on Pirate, as he barely has anything to do with SKG at this point, while others can continue their talk on Synthethic Man, while others might vent off whatever frustrations they have, or dare I say, shill for a certain e-celeb releasing some random video.

>>1562287 I have heard of people mentioning Synthetic from time to time, and even posting clips once or twice like his Saints Row one, or when anons complained about some his bizarre takes on one of the Switch Zelda games. I really enjoy The Electric Underground, he mostly talks about arcade games, shoot em ups, and games like Devil May Cry/ Ninja Gaiden, as those are his favorite types of games, but he will talk about other games as well, but coming from this old school arcade perceptive. I also have a soft spot for Super Derek RPG, at least some of his earlier content, especially since it was through his videos, that I got introduced to Grandia and Breath of Fire. If you want more JRPGs there was also Clemps, but he hasn't uploaded in a long time, so I assume he quit. Though, I am not sure if these last two examples, really qualify in what you are asking for, then again the types of videos that Ross, Sseth and Mandalore make, differ wildly, so I am also not sure what you are asking for. if you want more Sseth like comedy, then I guess Max0r incorrect summary videos.

>>1562287 Marsh and Dungeon Chill (both mainly cover Japanese-only or early 3D titles), TehSnakerer (Capcom games, Euro jank), and Running Shine (Sonic, YIIK, Mischief Makers). Also Wicked Wiz (literal Steam asset flips) if you want to go turbo-normalfag.

>>1562147 Might as well share some channels I've been watching recently. >Majuular It's like history documentaries for bunch of old vidya. Pretty relaxing to watch. >Pongsifu Humor and editing is a bit 'zoomer-esque', especially for a dude who seems like in his late 30s or something. But once you're past that, editing is high-quality and the guy's pretty funny. I urge you to at least watch some of the videos where he's with one or two of his IRL friends. >Running Shine The guy who's famous for his YIIK review video. You know the one.

>>1562318 >Dungeon Chill I watched some of his videos, like the Maken X one, and enjoyed his content. >TehSnakerer and Running Shine Yeah, forgot about those, I think both of them did a YiiK video. Another e-celeb that I kinda enjoy, is Grim Beard, like Ross he also covers a few more obscure games, like Mystic Nights, ...Iru!, some PS2 era movie tie-ins like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but will also cover more popular games like Desu Ex and Max Payne, basically he reviews whatever he feels like doing. I generally like his content, but he does tend to go into skit territories, reminiscent of Channel Awesome and Civvie.

>>1562205 This, this thread is written in such a deliberately gossipy and antagonistic way where nothing good can come of it. I don't even know who the people mentioned in the OP and images are besides AVGN, how am I supposed to know who "faggot 2" through "faggot 5" are? OP if you're seriously in your 30s and still give a shit about face reveals or "Bimmy not having time" you're too old to act like that, go mow a lawn or something.

>>1562205 The first e-celeb thread was perfectly fine and I'd use the same argument here I used for that one: analysis of vidya and video essays about vidya are still vidya. I don't see how highlighting someone else's argument or analysis is any less valid than talking about videogames in a thread and quoting other posts. >>1562379 If you don't like it, you can just hide the thread :^)

Synthetic-Man is a sperg but he really was the canary in the coalmine regarding internet centrists and several E celebs like almighty loli and Josh. There is a lot of dumb shit he says but he was correct regarding his observations of centrists and several mainstream anti sjws during the KCD2 discourse.

>>1562147 That AVGN pic is depressing.

>>1562566 James I don't have any real issues with as he's just wants to make videos about video games and hangout with his kids.

>>1562665 some say it's after Dark Castle is when his videos has gone stale but i'll be more generous around 2018 when his videos start to be more like overproduced skits with a character trying to crack jokes and getting sappy about already good games everybody played than a nerd casually making a home video ranting about why a 40 year old game on the NES is fucking garbage with a passion. James clearly mellowed out over the years as getting old and starting a family definitely takes a lot of the bile we know and love from him away but im happy for him if it means his life is going better than most aging youtubers in their 40s. if you really want that classic AVGN experience again, Mike Matei's still carrying that on funnily enough. he's practically more classic AVGN than James is now while shooting the shit on streams and ranting about oldass kusoge even if he does sound like Steve-O at times

>>1562147 I don't care if synthetic sperg is just spurging /v/'s opinion. Unironically, any person that touches the (((JQ))), is making that subject matter closer to normalization. So he is fine in my book. also this >>1562551

>>1562147 well since this thread is here can someone kindly fill me in on who the fuck is northernlion and why is he all the sudden the loved by reddit youtuber I checked his channel and it's nothing but hour long let's play slop, which is the most talent-less format of video game side of youtube I don't get it

>>1562665 >is the audience the problem reminder that James no longer writes anything, a big fucking problem on a channel about reviews. You don't come back from that, <inb4 avgn was always written by others doesn't matter, avgn was always a character not his real "cinema dork" self. When the rest of his content is fake as shit there isn't a single reason to keep watching.

>>1562665 I disagree. I think of AVGN as having several eras that stand out as distinct when you notice them. >Golden Age: Simon's Quest (2004) to ROB The Robot (2011) This comprises over five "seasons," as far as Rolfe is concerned. He doesn't consider the first three episodes to be part of Season 1, because they were made earlier. Season 1 is when Mike uploaded those initial three, and then the success prompted them to make a bunch more. Things certainly evolve over this era, they become much more high effort, but I'd say the style is mostly consistent, just becoming more refined. Notably, ROB The Robot took some absurd amount of time and was his biggest production for many years. Also, Board James and many other videos were coming out during this era, and I'd say they were almost all pretty good. >Movie Production Era: Spielberg Games (2011) to Desert Bus (2014) These episodes were made while he was actively producing the movie, meaning the episodes were really his secondary focus. I'd say they still have the same spirit, but have noticeably less effort behind them, and he was fairly open about why. He just didn't have time (soon to become a recurring theme) because of the movie. As this era went on, and Rolfe was more and more busy, Matei started taking the reins more and more, doing James & Mike Play (later James & Mike Mondays) as a more carefully edited Lets Play series so that the Youtube channel could have content even though James was too busy to do much more than play vidya for an hour a week. Matei was also essentially forced to do solo filler content, and it became infamous. He gets the most shit for his Minecraft With Gadget video, which itself clearly based on a previous off the cuff video he did with Rolfe called "Super Mario Bros. Super Show DVD Menu Screen Review," where they laugh at how this Mario DVD for some reason has Inspector Gadget sounding a little bit off because he's not played by the original actor, Don Adams) on the menus teaching you how to use a DVD. They improv impressions of him and the weird things he says, and then like a week later Matei put out his Minecraft video. In context, it's even funnier. And for all the shit he gets for his Gadget video, I think his Elmo In Grouchland Review is a lot more worthy of mockery. However, now he embraces these things, even dressing up as Inspector Gadget and playing the character on his streams. Now I firmly assert that his Inspector Gadget is legitimately hilarious, and if Rolfe just did an Inspector Gadget episode where Matei played the guest star, it would be a brilliant return to form. Mike Matei is a canonical Gadget in my eyes. At least moreso than Gadget Boy, Matthew Broderick, French Stewart. Also Matei put out other videos that people liked, mostly ones about game trivia and stuff. Nowadays, people cite him as the earliest source anyone can find for the claim that Hagane for Super Nintendo was a Blockbuster exclusive, which made the price of the game shoot through the roof. But now people seem to think the claim is false. I wonder where Matei got the info from. >The Movie (2014) Gotta just mark this dividing line. He fulfilled his dream, he even got it in (limited) theaters. He did it. And it was not the success he wanted it to be. Meanwhile his first kid was born and there were birth complications. (I heard Mike fucked his wife and made the kid retarded by bashing its head in with his ten inch cock. lel.) Actually the kid's arm was damaged coming out, and it took years of therapy to repair In his autobiography, Rolfe clarifies that he is proud of the movie, but working on it was a horrible experience. He doesn't say it like this, but I think it's clear that working that hard when his wife and kid needed him made him realize that he values time with his family over filmmaking. >Post-Movie Era: Beetlejuice (2014) to Sega Activator Interactor Menacer (2016) Since the episodes before the movie were low effort due to the movie, fans expected the episodes to go back to having more work put into them after. To be fair, in late 2014, he did "The Twelve Days of Shitsmas," which he was probably working on since shortly after the movie, so that might help justify the low effort videos that came out immediately after the movie. And in 2015 he seemed to focus on Board James Season 3, which was clearly a passion project and did have a lot of effort put into it. But then his first episode of 2016 (and first episode of Season 10) was Mega Man Games, where he remarks on how there are too many damn Mega Man games and they get boring after a while, but at the same time, he loves Mega Man and doesn't want it to go away forever. It would be better if they put out Mega Man games every once in a while, when they actually had a good idea, instead of pumping them out formulaically or stopping them entirely. And obviously he intends for his audience to understand this is a metaphor for AVGN. Also during 2015, Matei's childhood friend and Board James actor/musician Bootsy Spankins, P.I. starred in his own series called Bootsy Beats. Fans loved Bootsy and he was also great at video games, so he did videos about how to beat super hard games like Battletoads and Silver Surfer. But then he abruptly stopped after those two. Later we learned that money came between them and broke up a 40 year friendship. Pretty sad. Sega Activator episode was also the last episode that Kyle Justin (creator of the AVGN theme song, who also played "the guy behind the couch" in episodes like Ikari Warriors) worked on. He did carpentry for the breakable set, since by this point I guess he was giving up on music and had a day job as a carpenter. So basically, around this time, James lost his real life friends who helped him build the channel and who fans loved. Bootsy loves baseball and Kyle is doing his own thing. Nothing but good memories. >Proto-Screenslob era: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (2017) to Wrestling Games (2017) (estimate) After losing his real friends (except for Matei), Rolfe needed help, so he hired help. Earlier, they released a video showing how their website servers and stuff like that work. Their tech guy was a dude named Ryan Schott. But it turns out Ryan's dad was super rich and helped him launch multiple failed business ventures until one actually worked. That one was Screenwave Media, the company Rolfe turned to for help. Rolfe wasn't open about when these people started helping him, so it's a bit unclear, but I think these episodes, while they don't have any definitive proof of Screenwave involvement, show telltale signs. James did seem to study Power Rangers for that episode (which was done to coincide with the Power Rangers movie), but later the Screenslobs (as the fans would call the Screenwave crew, since they were all big fat guys) would go on about Power Rangers a lot more. Plus, while James did previously do movie tie in episodes, it would later come out that Big Ryan really pushed for it. Fans call him Big Ryan for multiple reasons. One is that he's a big fat guy. Another is that he really seems like he's the boss. While they claim he isn't, and that James is, Big Ryan (and his executives, like Justin Silverman) make business decisions including selling sponsorships, which determine how many episodes Rolfe has to make. He also is cited as pressuring everyone, including James, on what episodes to make. I say "everyone" because around here James also got writers (and not just Matei). Again, they weren't credited in most cases, but it's pretty clear to most fans that the writing style changes. More on this later. >Screenslob Era: Polybius (2017) to Episode 200 (2021) As far as I can tell, Polybius is the first episode where we can confirm the Screenslobs worked on it, because Justin Silverman is seen in a behind the scenes video about it, but I think it started almost a year earlier. Either way, the style changes significantly. Big Ryan's Number Two, Justin Silverman, started a show called Rental Reviews, which was blatantly ripping off RedLetterMedia. They'd stand around in James's awesome basement that he tricked out to look like a video store, and they'd try to review movies. The problem is that these guys are literally hired friends. James, Matei, Bootsy, and Kyle could do stuff like this before because they were real friends with real chemistry. Now James was trying to do the same thing with guys who were much younger than him, had different sensibilities, and didn't like the same movies. It was largely awkward, with James just standing around, unenthusiastically saying "yeah," and "mmhmm," as the Screenslobs told awkward stories about their sexual exploits. When James did try to say something, they didn't even understand his references half the time, because they grew up in the '90s instead of the '80s, and the whole point of the channel was really James's '80s nostalgia. The Screenslobs also played various characters in these episodes, and it was clear they were writing them, but never confirmed. However, in 2019 they released "Chronologically Confused About Kingdom Hearts," which begins with Rolfe admitting that he's never played Kingdom Hearts. He then proceeds to explain the story for 20 minutes. Years later, the slob the fans affectionately call Caveman Kieran would quit and reveal a bunch of secrets, including that tried to warn Big Ryan that this was a terrible idea, but Big Ryan forced him to write it anyway. Oh yeah, Mike quit shortly into the lockdowns to focus on his own streaming, as it was much easier and made him plenty of money. By this point, since the slobs were writing the episodes anyway, the difference without Mike was hardly felt. So James & Mike Mondays ended, and later Mike released a list of reasons he quit. Many of them were roundabout ways of saying James had no time anyway, though of course he was trying to phrase it in ways to not blame James. James has appeared on his channel a couple of times. They seem to still be friends, maybe. But they took different paths in life. James sold out to Big Ryan so he could be freed from making work decisions and spend more time with his kids. Mike became a Twitch star and does nothing but play vidya, eat McDonalds, and bone is hot gamer girl gf with his ten inch dong.

In mid-2021 Rolfe released a video titled "AVGN Behind The Scenes and Nerd Room Tour 2021." In it, he admits that his videos are lower effort, but with a series of bizarre excuses, like how he nailed some pieces of wood together to hold his camera in place for his primary couch shot, and how he uses zipties to attach lights to his ceiling, and therefore doesn't want to move the camera because it's too much work to move these things now. He also addresses the hate for the Screenslobs, and he says things like "Do you not want me to have help? Do you want me to suffer?" Bizarrely, the work he complained about doing himself was all technical, while the work that was outsourced to the Screenslobs was creative. You'd think he'd be hiring them to do the set and take care of the servers, but instead he's spending all day doing that (away from his kids, as he laments), and getting the slobs to write episodes for him. It seems totally backwards from what any creative person would want to do. Up until now, Rolfe was great at not addressing controversy, letting it slide off him like water off a duck's back. He survived SJWs, including big names like Ratatouille star and noted wife-killer Patton Oswalt trying to cancel him for not wanting to watch the Ghostbusters reboot. But now he addressed controversy and in the worst way, by criticizing his own fans. Before this, there was already controversy, but it was largely directed at Mike, who people blamed for business decisions, and then Big Ryan, who seemed to become the new boss. But now Rolfe gave a reason to be mad at him directly. And he had really bad timing, because that October the new Monster Madness came out. Since 2006 he'd been doing 31 horror movie reviews every October. After the tenth year he said he'd stop, because it was too much work (honestly understandable. It is a ton of work for a side project) and he was running out of movies he wanted to talk about, but he actually kept going, just in more low-effort formats. But he announced that 2021 was going to be a return to form, and also a revamping of the classic Cinemassacre website, where all the reviews would be posted. But then the first one came out and it was plagiarized. Fans immediately noticed because it wasn't at all in Rolfe's style. It made bizarre comparisons between 28 Days Later and 9/11, while Rolfe never did social commentary like that. So a quick Google search found it was taken from a contemporary review of the movie. And then they fiddled with the URL and found the next day's review, and it was also plagiarized. Turns out that behind the scenes Screenslob (okay, this one actually wasn't fat) Newt Wallen was tasked with writing the reviews and plagiarized all of them. Newt was never on camera on Cinemassacre, but he did appear in the channel of on-screen Screenslob Toby From SmackTheBoobies. Newt was fired from all Screenslob related activities, but still complains about it and plays the victim on Twitter to this day. Meanwhile, Caveman Kieran was tasked with coming up with 30 new reviews so they could stay on schedule. James and Mike talked many times about how this normally took them about six months. Kieran had to do it in real time. He later revealed that he never got paid for this specific task, as Big Ryan told him it was part of his regular duties. After this, James still had to release the 200th episode, which was split into three parts because Big Ryan accidentally sold three different sponsorships for it. The episode is about James reviewing every LJN game, while trying to make his own video game. Notably they previously released two official AVGN games which were actually well received). For Big Ryan, this was about promoting the remaster/rerelease/remake of the two AVGN games (which hilariously had all references to the movie removed and replaced). For James, the plot ends with him realizing that making video games is hard, so he shouldn't be so hard on AVGN. Like the Mega Man Games episode, the metaphor is very obvious. >Hidden Screenslob Era: The Last Ninja (2022) to Kid Icarus (2023) The first video of 2022 was a review of Nosferatu, for its 100th anniversary. In the video description, James (or perhaps someone else) writes that the channel is going to go back to its roots and focus on things like '80s nostalgia and horror movies. He also mentions that the Screenslobs won't be on camera anymore (though all but Tony are still behind the scenes. Tony quit to focus on his own channel, also run by Big Ryan). Basically, James was doing what the fans wanted, except for firing the slobs entirely. Many of those fans, The Truthers, as they're called, just made fun of him, saying "Muhsferatu." Well James didn't stick to this long, maybe because Justin (who is very into the Truther community) saw the feedback. I think that was a bit of a shame, because I thought this was the way things should have went. So things continued along the same lines as before. And about a year later, Caveman Kieran quit and spilled a bunch of secrets, including the fact that he had become head writer of AVGN, and while he thought his writing was good (it wasn't), Big Ryan did make him do things he knew sucked. >Current Era: Earthworm Jim (2023) to Metroid Trilogy (2025) Kieran was replaced by a new guy named Sean, who doesn't appear on camera but does write. James of course claims that all the writers always only did rough drafts, but given that he's done whole episodes on things he admits to not knowing, this seems dubious. This era for some reason has several episodes where they flash back to old episodes and film new scenes in the old style, and surprisingly, they're actually accurate and good. This shows that James actually sees the difference, but he actually thinks the new style is better. He's capable of doing the old style and chooses not to. It's bizarre. In a few recent episodes he's finally started to admit he's going bald. He had The Glitch Gremlin (played by AVGN movie co-director Kevin Finn, who in a James & Mike episode showed he didn't know how to hold an N64 controller, and convinced Rolfe to waste all his crowdfunded budget by filming in LA instead of New Jersey) come back and do an episode about "Legacy Sequels," where the Glitch Gremlin remarks that they're both going bald. In a recent episode titled "Dragon's Lair: Re-Revisited," he again does the thing where he cuts back to the era of an old episode, and when he cuts back, he puts on a ridiculous wig. It's pretty brutal. Anyway most of these episodes still suck balls. I think the worst is My Horse Prince, where he does a mobile game that they previously played on James & Mike Mondays (which ended years ago) and films the episode in portrait mode on a phone, because it's a phone game. Not only is the writing as bad as the rest of the Screenslob era, but the camera is nothing but portrait close ups of his big bald head. It's like the whole episode is Zordon yelling at you about some ironic mobile memegame. Actually that would be funny but I bet Rolfe has already forgotten who Zordon was, even though he watched like 10 seasons of Power Rangers when Big Ryan told him to do a tie-in episode for the movie in 2017. >tl;dr: I'd say it stopped really being the same show at the Sega Activator Interactor Menacer video, from the end of 2016. Or the Mega Man Games episode from a few months earlier, really. But the rest of that year was at least the same basic spirit, even if little of that spirit was left. But 2017 the Screenslobs came in and James clearly checked out creatively. Big Ryan fan, btw.

>>1562948 >>1562955 I don't get it. If he has to lie to himself and his "fans" that much to keep going, why doesn't he just quit? Is the money really that good? A contractual obligation to big Ryan? Can't be that he's not the boss, since said fat slob said that James was as such. I also wonder what kind of success he expected the movie to have. He was a niche internet celebrity at best working on a movie that half the fans said they didn't give a shit about. I'm actually impressed it released in some limited theaters. Also I still believe it was the 10 incher that did it.

>>1563000 He's said it many times. AVGN is tough for him to make, but it's a job, and he can't imagine having a better job. Matei has described himself as independently wealthy, which is why he could take the risk to quit Cinemassacre (though according to Caveman, Mike never gave up his stake in the business, he just became a passive shareholder. He claimed James and Mike are still majority owners, but Screenwave does own a portion). James doesn't have enough money to quit. He has kids, at least one of which had significant medical problems that probably cost him a bunch of money (he once auctioned off a bunch of AVGN memorabilia to donate to the Shriners, because they helped his kid with therapy, but I bet it still cost a lot more money). He also probably spent a lot of his own money on the movie. He ran out of money before it was really done, requiring him to have to go back home and finish the rest of it by himself in his basement. As for the success he expected for the movie, I don't think it's fair to downplay it so much as to say he was a niche internet celebrity. He is incredibly influential. There are so many big ripoffs, including some that have crazy amounts of success and money, like JonTron. I have to imagine he figured it would be his Clerks, or at least his Toxic Avenger. He probably figured it would springboard him into other jobs, but instead all that happened is it ruined the career of his co-director, who previously had steady journeyman work directing trash reality TV, but hasn't had a similar job since. I think the real problem is that he never realized that his goal never needed to be old media like his AOL buddy Stephen Spielberg was into. James Rolfe was at the forefront of a whole new medium, and if he realized it and really worked at that, he could have done so much more with it. But that was never what he wanted to do. He never wanted to make online content, he wanted to make theatrical films, or at least direct to video films. He saw AVGN as a stepping stone to that, instead of a stepping stone to forging a new path.

>>1563142 I thought he wrote a pretty good review, I definitely learned some new stuff. >alogging You should learn what terms actually mean first before you spout them. A-logging is a specific term for exaggerating transgressions & the desire to hunt down and harass/attack people IRL because of it. Not writing genuine scathing criticisms online.

>>1562955 The Megaman Episode was the final episode for me. It really was the sendoff

>>1562754 I have never heard about him, nor do I browse reddit to know who they like. Looking at his channel, some of his most popular videos were a decade ago, and now he is at sub 100k views, sometimes even sub 50k views, so he appears to be a has-been, unless he moved to Twitch or some other platform.The Yogscast, are an example of that, if you were to look at their jewtube channel, it seems dead, but that's mostly because they moved their audience to Twitch, or at least this what I have been told. >>1562948 Thanks for the review. For me personally, I stopped watching him regullarily at the ROB episode. Did not bother with the movie, and have only seen some of his newer output like the Megaman episode, from time to time, but it's mostly from curiosity, rather than genuine interest in his channel or content. >>1563142 >Sharing one's passions with other like-minded individuals, by writing in-dejewsommentary is reddit tier <Instead your posts should fit inside of a Tweet like a true anon would do This is your brain on ADHD cuckchan "brainrot", as the kids say.

>>1563142 Agreed

>>1562287 4ch refugee, I only started hearing about him about a year ago at earliest, don't feel too bad (good?) for not knowing him.

>>1562948 >>1562955 I find it very funny that the AVGN as a character was almost always someone else writing what James should say (first Mike and their other friends, then the fat guys) and never James coming up with the jokes on his own. >>1563142 He provided an in-depth analysis of a creative work as well as significant background into the person behind it and why and how his life affected that work. That's not a-logging and I don't think you understand where or why that term came to be.

Hardcore WoW eceleb drama

>>1564983 James was never a videogame geek, he was always a movie nerd. Mike was always the gaymer

>>1565044 In a more general sense James was just an 80s nerd. It's just that video games, particularly NES was ubiquitous in the 80s so it's part of the childhood nostalgia culture he was relating with AVGN. After all he started as the Angry Nintendo Nerd but changed it because that was stepping on a trademark.

>>1565044 While he might have just played the part, he was convincing enough at it, plus James did bring his indie movie experience, to make the skits. They might just be, low-budget copies of better movies, but they do have a charm, and it's neither as cringe as the Doug Walker style skits, nor as boring as just a guy in front of the camera. It also helped that he didn't always do them, so when it did happen, it felt a bit special. I am also reminded of his "top 5 movies about making movies", with the number 3 one, Be Kind Rewind, being about guys trying to recreate box-office movies with zero budget, and in his words "a movie I relate to, so much". https://yewtu.be/watch/?v=f4RsuFPtZdY

>>1563000 >Also I still believe it was the 10 incher that did it.

Honestly surprised Mark is okay with this considering how dogmatic he was against e-celeb threads on Prime. Couldn't you guys make a board for this instead of treating /v/ like it's /b/+? I vaguely remember Prime had an active e-celeb gossip board. We have an open board system and nobody takes advantage of it.

>>1565092 Please read Rule 9 and please follow Rule 12 :^)

>>1565098 Cute response, I've seen you post it in the meta thread and it is hysterical that Mark rewrote rule 9 awhile ago specifically to allow these threads, but none of that really responds to what I'm saying. Rule 12 could technically be used in response to anything, I could make a Vidya Girl Farts thread like that spammer we had a decade ago did and point to R12 if people complained about it :^)

>>1565092 I agree with the general sentiment that e-celebs are cancer but when discussing ones who specifically talk about videogames and their technical aspects disagree because they're essentially the modern equivalent to game mag reviews. Not to backseat moderate but the site has such a small userbase separating the discussion of "other people's discussions about videogames" to another board would most likely lead to just another dead board, and again I would point out there was a previous e-celebs thread just like this one that went on for hundreds of replies a few months ago with no issue. Evidently most of this one so far has just been about the AVGN but to say discussing the AVGN isn't vidya related would be asinine.

>>1565114 >rewrote rule 9 awhile ago This is a snapshot from 24th October 2020 https://web.archive.org/web/20201024112035/https://8chan.se/v/rules.html >Threads focused on e-celebs and the gossip surrounding them will be deleted unless contained in a general thread. Examples include "[random YouTuber] hate thread," "Dodger thread," "What happened to Arin?" or "It's a Woolie episode." E-celeb-related news that are big enough to warrant discussion (for example, something that has an impact on the industry) may be allowed. The text does differ, but it's more or less the same rule, of e-celeb threads are permitted as long as they are contained in a general thread. So no, it's not something he did "recently". Also please note that Rule 12, has the same exact text now as it did back then :^) >spoiler Your example would work, if there was a rule that specifically mentioned in which circumstances, vidya fart girl threads would be allowed on /v/

>>1565140 I don't think you grasp I'm making fun of your rules lawyering, and I'm not all that interested in Da Rools anyway. I'm curious why some anons want to talk about e-celebs on the video games board, instead of on /vb/ or making their own board. You're totally ignoring that part. Specifically the spergery around James Rolfe in particular, that would be better on >>>/cow/ or some "snark" subreddit.

>>1565067 I'm not saying that Mike did all the work like some retards like to claim but he obviously had more passion for vidya than James ever did.

>>1564983 I think you're overstating how much writing Matei did. By all accounts, the writing was all James and Matei before the slobs were hired, but even by Matei's own account, he did a minority of it. Matei has been pretty open about bits he wrote for AVGN, and what other work he did on the series. He edited a ton, and that's important. He of course acted in several memorable episodes. But as for writing, his main contribution seemed to be that sometimes (but not every time) he and James would play the games together, and as they joked about the games, many of those jokes (from both of them) would make it into the episodes. But Matei doesn't claim that this is how most episodes were made. He still claims that James did most by himself. Also, sometimes Matei would suggest a game to James and give him a few ideas of things to talk about in it. So to be clear, while Matei definitely came up with his share of classic bits, and contributed to the character significantly, he does not take anything close to half credit for the writing, even though he does take credit for many specific bits. Now, though, many episodes feature gameplay footage taken directly from Matei's livestreams. So even though he claims to have quit, that clearly isn't the case entirely. But I don't think people have noted jokes taken directly from Matei's streams, only game footage. Also, taking footage from the streams may even be a Big Ryan decision, as he also owns (or at least significantly helps to run) Matei's channel. This is why even though James claims to still be the boss, he really comes off like the bottom of the totem pole, the balls on the dick. >>1565044 >>1565047 Was it because of a trademark, or because he wanted to do more than Nintendo games? He did have a Sega Genesis growing up. He did non-Nintendo games pretty early on. But yes, really it was about '80s and early '90s nostalgia. And horror movies. It's no coincidence that his first two episodes were Simon's Quest and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He used to be very self aware about this. In the Christmas episode where he sees himself in the future, reviewing Wii games, his older self says "look at the grass grow. It's like that movie Creepshow." He knows that he's always referencing horror movies, and he used to know that the joke wasn't actually about the game, it was about him (or rather his character), a (relatively) old man getting this mad about a game from decades earlier. He's said this explicitly many times, but new episodes really seem to forget it. I suppose that might be because he doesn't even write it anymore. >>1565067 I think a big part of the appeal was that James Rolfe always considered himself to be a filmmaker, like his AOL friend Steven Spielberg. Other guys like Doug Walker and Jon "The Honorary" Aryan Jafari clearly loved film, but they resigned themselves to making internet content. Rolfe never thought of it like that, he thought of every episode as a little film. He made the first three before he even knew about Youtube, he made them as little short films to share with his friends. But at a certain point this changed, and his autobiography makes pretty clear it was when he found how hard it was to make professional level feature film. He had a couple of good projects left in him after that, but it wasn't long until he hired the Screenslobs and resigned himself to just making "content," like all of his imitators. And yes, the fact that he was truly indie was part of the appeal. Many people, clearly including Rolfe himself, felt the same sort of appeal when watching things like Clerks or Troma films, but James Rolfe took it to a new level. He was literally one guy making these things completely by himself in his bedroom at his parents' house, then at his little apartment, and eventually in his basement. There's something to that truly home-made feel. But again, hiring the Screenslobs ruined all of that. >>1565092 A big part of things is the quality of the userbase. If the users are less retarded you can be more nuanced and not have to rules lawyer as much. >>1565154 /cow/ would be making fun of him. While I think the jokes about him are largely funny, I also think he's legitimately a fascinating and incredibly influential filmmaker who deserves a lot more credit than he gets. I would have loved to see what else he would have done if he had the time.

>>1565372 James feels like the equivalent of someone who wants to 1man dev a game, olny the bar to making an indie game is a lot lower than making an indie film, and I mean a popular good quality indie game too. And even something that's equivalent of a film student short film if frankly tough. A lot of it has to do with the equipment. You really need a small crew that's well in sync even to do a no permit guerilla film.

>>1565372 >Was it because of a trademark, or because he wanted to do more than Nintendo games? Both, mostly the first

>>1565469 Plus, you need actors, unless you want to do a nature documentary or a very artsy movie like Koyaanisqatsi. I guess he could also film himself and be the only character in the movie, can work, but compared to a game, were you can have a dozen or so characters, as long as they are not voiced. Or in other words, it's easier for just one guy to make Undertale with a colorful cast of characters, than it is to make that game's story into a live action movie, all by yourself, because who is going to play them?

>>1565498 James Rolfe has discussed many times how wrangling actors and keeping them dedicated and on task is the hardest part of most of the movies he's made. The AVGN movie is basically the only time he had real professional (paid) actors. He talks about how he found it so freeing when he would find ways to film all by himself. That's why The Six Snix Flicks are about an evil mask. No actor required most of the time, and sometimes the actor can just be himself. That's why the first Angry Nintendo Nerd video is just game footage with a voice over. AVGN in general is easy for him because he can do it by himself. It's why he talks about it being easier than any other job. But he has kids, so even that job is too much for him anymore. So he hired help. But his helpers aren't as talented as him, so the new output sucks.

Man I just fucking hate the absolute state of Sklorb, what a dogshitly ran channel since it got bought out by PunchBaby Pictures. I started watching Sklorb twelve years ago for his Minecraft let's plays and machinimas, and he was cool then. He had hair and didn't beg more than once per video people to subscribe. Then he started making video essays, some of which I liked such as "The Eerie Sonder of CTF-2Forts" or "Why Minecraft Makes You Lonely and Scared" or even his movie theories like "The Stinky Pete Hypothesis" which were all good. But he kept making his Minecraft videos and I kept watching them. Then he got a foid girlfriend and stopped swearing as much, and then he had a kid with her and stopped altogether, making his Minecraft videos and essays more infantile, making stuff like "Why Freddy Five Is Relaxing and Lulls You to Sleep, Actually" and I saw this and was like what the fuck, what happened to this guy. He kept adding more sponsors even during the Minecraft machinimas for stuff like Bowling Kings Royale, Pac-Clash 2, Micro Submarine Deluxe etc. So then I look on his channel one day and what do I see? His banner is changed to PunchBaby Pictures, and he no longer has any hair. It was receding for some time, but I suspect PunchBaby made Sklorb shave it. He also had a new cohost named Darren, replacing his old one DyreKyle. What's worse, Sklorb started to upload under his real name instead, which really cheesed me off. But don't get me started on he and his wife using VTuber avatars, with a smaller one for their baby, that baby that ruined the channel. Then he stopped playing Minecraft, saying he needed more time to "be a father" or something like that. How very fucking lame of him to betray his fans that way. I remember when he and DyreKyle would joke about dicks and poop on Sky Island Bed Wars Survival Night 2 like it was no problem, but now he has all this so called responsibility. Responsibility to what? Not his fans, who have watched him since 2011 with his first Minecraft video. Now he doesn't even do them anymore. I saw him at a con once, looking all happy with his stroller and foid ball and chain. I was sickened and left on the spot to go to my car and clench my fist. Fuck you Sklorb, and fuck you PunchBaby, and all bald people everywhere. Never meet your heroes.

>>1565544 I know I sperged out hard over AVGN, but this sounds completely made up. This post comes across as a parody of these kinds of discussion. There's no way there is really a guy named Sklorb who works for something called PunchBaby Pictures. And he's a bald guy who needed more time to be a father? This all comes across as parody.

>>1565697 >There's no way there is really a guy named Sklorb I did find a channel called Shekel Minecraft. Please enjoy this piece of brainrot, and see how much you are able to withstand it. Personally I gave up at the 2:33 mark. It's a shit encoding, that only has the first 5 minutes, but for some reason this video was so big, not even Avitator with it's fancy SVT-AV1-PSY could fix it, plus I doubt you would even want to watch more of it.

>>1565520 Damn it's too bad the man isn't a stop motion genius or he might have the next Jan Svankmajer or Mike Jittlov or given his horror movie proclivities the next Willis O'Brien, Ray Harryhausen, or Phil Tippett.

>>1562147 >There was a recent thread about Synthethic Man that got deleted, but there was a topic that started to be formed, but I think the thread got deleted way before it managed to reach it's potential, that of e-celebs growing old. I dread to think someone starting as a gaming e-celeb in their late 20s and doing it up until their 50s or even 60s, just because they aren't popular enough to get enough money to retire early, but still profitable enough to keep the gift going. From my point of view either you manage to retire early like Pew Die Pie, become a complete cuck like James Rolfe, kill yourself like JewWario, flee from society like Game Dude, become a complete lol-cow like boogie, swallow the tranny pill like Cosmo, or manage to move on to something else. I guess you need a certain level of narcisim to want to become an e-celeb, so it's hard for me to comprehend why you would want to do this shit even in your 60s, but if you can't retire early, maybe you should just change the direction of your channel, even if risks alienating your fans, because otherwise you have to watch the e-celeb go through a middle life crisis, like what I think Synthethic Man is going through, and maybe Spoony when he did that drunken Twilight review. When I was 20 or so I was admiring guys like AVGN or Nostalgia Critic. Even back then I knew that their videos were shit, but they were entertaining shit. In some way I wanted to be an e-celeb too. What kept me from pursuing that goes (aside from the fact that I had not enough talent to be good and too much self-awareness) is exactly what you pointed out. Playing Autismo the Clown in your 20s is fun, especially if you were early enough and could make a living off it. While your peers were going into debt or working shitty side jobs to stay afloat you were just goofing off all day and getting paid for it. But over time your peers would graduate or finish their training, get real jobs, get promoted, and move up in life, while you are still stuck playing video games or ranting about movies. It's like being an athlete. You have to quit early, and you better have a plan for what to do afterwards. Either you have other qualifications, or you make enough money to retire early. Or you stay a minor e-celeb who has an actual offline life and only does YouTube video for shits.

>>1566096 >your peers would graduate or finish their training, get real jobs, get promoted, and move up in life Sucks to be them

>>1566112 Look at Rolfe vs Matei. Rolfe tried to go home and be a family man, and now we make fun of him. Matei dedicated himself to screaming at video games for twelve hours a day, and he's a rich chad with a hot gamer girl gf. Of course, as his measuring tape showed, he also has other advantages to help with that.

Synth's brother started to stream and make videos. He reviewed Pirate Software's game and said that he writes and codes like a teenage girl

Is he the modern YandereDev?

>>1566489 Not really, at least YandereDev likes women and isn't a fucking furfag. His coding skills are better than Maldavius Figtree's, too.

>>1566489 Before pirate software... Before YandereDev... there was another... another that history has now forgotten...

>>1566618 Even a lot of sjws hate Fish.

>>1566618 CHOKE

>>1566489 He reminds me of YandereDev because he has a chill/cool voice but it’s just a mask for an insecure faggot. Sort of like the male version of a cute girl vtuber who is actually a psycho bitch.

>>1566635 ON

>>1566618 I still don’t really know the story behind him. How did a guy who made one well-received cute little indie game manage to end up as a lolcow? He was clearly at least somewhat competent because he actually finished his game.

>>1566689 Phil Fish made one game and let the success go to his head, first by saying Japanese developers were incapable of making good games and said Cave Story was inferior to Fez. Which he followed up by his infamously telling people to, quote, "Suck my dick, choke on it" Oh, and a whole bunch of stuff during #Gamergate.

>>1566689 guy was in over his head after making one mildly successful indie game then sperged about lets plays being IP infringement and should be threatened with legal action and copyright laws. didn't help he was an insufferable faggot about it to the point he crashed out on twitter then left the scene entirely

>>1566925 Why did people suddenly start saying "crashed out" so much like two weeks ago? Never before have I seen a new phrase suddenly gain such prominence so quickly. Not even just on this site. I just suddenly started hearing it everywhere.

>>1566927 do you prefer meltdowns? it sounds older

>>1566902 Well two other people made his game and he sort of directed/produced it.

>>1566927 Society will look unrecognisable by the time you die.

>>1566931 Yes. But also I am legitimately curious what caused the sudden surge in this new phrase. It needs to be studied by linguists. I want to say it's astroturfed, but if so, it's the most successful astroturfed phrase I've ever seen.

>>1566934 I sure hope so, because I've already lived to see man made horrors beyond my imagination.

>>1566935 it's just the zoomers' time that they start hearing new slangs and start repeating them ad nauseam. much like how we oldfag millenials and gen x used to annoy boomers with words like deadass, literally being used with everything, rad, etc.

Jontron Won Arin Lost James Lost

>>1566960 >deadass I've heard zoomers saying that and fucking hate them for it, but I never heard it this much and this quickly. I've also heard old boomers saying crashout a lot, and I never heard it before like two weeks ago. It was just one day suddenly everyone was saying it. It freaks me out. It's like somebody made a mistake in the rollout speed of the new update in the Matrix.

>>1566977 Jon "The Honorary" Aryan Jafari is somehow one of the best guys left on Youtube. And it's not that I absolutely love his stuff, but I guess he got that Disney money and now doesn't have to worry about cash, so he only releases videos that he actually thinks are good. He doesn't pump them out of an assembly line like most other big names on Youtube, and that shows.

>>1566902 IIRC he also defended DRM when SimCity 2013 was released.

>>1566689 As others anons have said, he let fame go over his head. Have a webm from 2015. >>1566489 The only difference is that Yandere actually makes progress at his game, and as such, has a better work ethic.

>>1566687 IT

>>1562147 What does Rev look like IRL? Is he a twink or does he look like a thumb, like JARBOOOOOO when he was facedoxxxxed?

>>1562754 I don't know about recently with him but years ago he used to upload multiple videos a day playing Binding of Isaac. It's over 5000 total.

>>1566977 Destiny also lost.

>>1567261 Destiny let Nick Fuentes fuck him in the ass, so he really lost.

>>1567323 Literally? I know spic is a fag but I assumed he was still deeply closeted.

>>1567261 Destiny is a cocksucking cuckold

>>1567472 Only thing that's in his closet are his catboy ears

>>1566977 >James Lost He has a family that he loves to death and mostly good legacy.

forsen

>>1566980 >>1566935 Before recently the only person that I ever heard use the term "crashing out" was Nile Red and that's in relation to chemicals coming out of solution.

Reminder that this is the average gachafag.

>>1570518 >>1570749 Go back to Foxdickfarms

>>1570749 So what gachas is that fag playing?

>>1570749 Nothing about this guy screams gacha player to me. Just a pathetic antifa faggot with a crippling social media addiction.

>>1570794 Horsegame right now, but he's been addicted to many. He also lost his account and his main sockpuppet and his new one only has 160 followers (BlueSky doesn't give these people the attention they require so they always crawl back to Twitter).

>>1562948 >>1562955 i started reading expecting some huge drama shit but apparently his biggest offender was making a PR review in hopes for it to blow up but the movie dissapointed and that was it. He literally says to our faces multiple times that he does not write anything nor wants to keep putting in much effort, yet people try to figure out this epic conspiracy of when things fell apart. While he is running a channel that delivers weekly content he wrote an autobiography, made experimental short films, and got enough money to donate to a hospital.That's already 3 times more than what the average youtuber has ever made in his life time, yet he also did a movie so he can say he actually knows how to direct a film. The real shitty thing he keeps doing is trying to sell himself as a noble innocent men that apparently is not to blame for the plagiarism incident, and even then people bought it and don't mention it enough.

>>1570985 For comparison, he used to be one of the biggest woke Twitter users, up there with this guy who still has 123k (though who knows what percentage are bots). Dave's internet presence is over, which for someone like him is no different than his life being over.

>>1570749 >>1570985 >>1570999 I don't think we need this here.

>>1571015 This is literally an internet lolow thread. Call them ecelebs if you want, at the end of the day they're lolcows.

>>1571019 This is for talking about videogame ecelebs, that made good shit. Not some twitter nobody posting ragebait for views that you want to bitch about.

>>1570996 His biggest offense was making a video where he blamed his fans for not liking his hired help or his admittedly less effortful recent output. If it wasn't for that, even the plagiarism would have blown over more easily. But the plagiarism, right after that blaming fans video, did get him to fix things a little bit. Not enough, because he still doesn't want to actually work as hard anymore, but at least he tried to wrangle things a bit more tightly so that the hired help tries to match his style a bit more accurately. They still don't do it accurately at all, but they try a little harder than before the plagiarism. Also, that video where he blamed the fans revealed that he is very inefficient and outsources the wrong work. Instead of outsourcing manual and tech stuff, he outsources the art, then struggles and comes up with bizarre and ineffective solutions to the tech problems. But that isn't a reason for people to dislike him. It's just stupid. I don't think many people blame him for hiring help, it's just he hires bad help to do the wrong things. But he's just a major autist who spent years in a special needs school, yet somehow managed to find enough success to have a seemingly loving wife and kids, and he wants to spend all his time with them. I think that alone is admirable and inspiring, and it's hardly fair to be upset at him for that. He just kinda sucks at balancing that with his day job.

>>1571089 >This is for talking about videogame ecelebs, that made good shit. Objectively false. Plenty of the posts have been about lolcows that the posters don't like and who aren't known for making good shit.

>>1571133 Hearing this makes me think he would've been happier had he just retired at his peak and took up an office job.

>>1571133 > Instead of outsourcing manual and tech stuff, he outsources the art, he literally doesn't, he does the acting and directing. You can call him out for being lazy on those departments, i do, but thinking writting a script is a form of "art" above actual acting and directing is just wrong.

>>1571139 No, he hates working regular jobs. He loves filmmaking. But he would rather spend time with his family than filmmaking. Therefore, he uses AVGN as his cash cow, because it's a reliable source of income from a series that is easy to make, at least compared to most other films. He's talked about it pretty openly. He says it's hard, but it's still better than any other job he can imagine. He gets to work from home, and usually by himself. He doesn't have to wrangle a crew most of the time, and the few people he has hired work mostly offsite and are wrangled by Big Ryan. He gets handed a script, he nails his camera next to his TV, and he sits on the couch and acts out a character he knows very well (even though he somehow performs it much worse than he used to). The real troubles are when he has to fix the servers or move the camera to any other shot placement. You'd think he would just hire the help to do things like that, but it's all at his home, so he tries to do it himself, because at least he doesn't have to leave the house. He goes on for quite a while in his autobiography about how horrible his job at Walmart was. After that he did other professional film work, like editing and voice directing, but now he can edit when he wants or just pass it off onto a slob. His current job is easier and allows more time with his family.

>>1571161 I didn't say anything about what forms of art are above others. But writing is obviously a big part of the art, and that's one of the things he outsources. Editing, too. (But yeah that's a bit more technical and time consuming and has always been outsourced to guys like Mike and Bootsy, at least on occasion.) But it's still a bit bizarre that he would spend his time troubleshooting his servers and moving his set around all by himself even though he has hired help, who he instead has writing and editing his episodes. I don't think any filmmaker got into it because they wanted to troubleshoot servers and ziptie lights to the ceiling.

>>1571019 Admittedly it's not easy to divide "e-celeb" into a subset of groups by simple definition, but there's an obvious difference between the likes of AVGN, Mandalore, and Ross Scott versus Destiny, dramatubers and... whatever this >>1570749 is. The main focus of e-celebs that get mentioned on /v/ or in the friday night, lounge, or Bethesda threads in passing are videogame analysis or at least some amount of constructive commentary on videogames through let's plays, reviews, or video essays. >>1571137 >Plenty of the posts have been about lolcows that the posters don't like and who aren't known for making good shit. Almost all of the posts in the thread so far have been about the AVGN and Synthetic Man, who both make videogame-specific commentary or reviews. Are there any channels like that that you watch, or do you just trawl twitter for random nobodies to post about online?

>>1571699 >Almost all Nice weasel words. Like I said, plenty of posts have been about lolcows. Lolcows fall under the umbrella of "eceleb", sorry.

>>1571759 If you're going to call "almost" a weasel word then you have to call "plenty" a weasel word. If you want to be more concrete, he could say "the majority," which would be more concrete. Or do you need a specific percentage? Do we need to count every post in the thread and do the math?

>>1571759 And I'm saying the AVGN and similar channels provide substantial commentary on videogames through what they make, which makes discussing their videos and actions worth discussing on a videogame discussion board, as opposed to pure drama like those twitter screencaps you made. Just seems like people would rather talk about videogame e-celebs as a jumping-off point for related discussions, like balancing passion vs. personal life (AVGN and JonTron), letting ego get in the way of your achievements (Phil Fish and PirateSoftware), or simply game design and general artistry (a lot of the channels mentioned in the first few replies like Majuular, Running Shine, and Ross Scott). Are you interested in discussing topics of that nature? I don't understand what you're getting at.

Oh the camera's on

>>1571818 No need. I'm not the one trying to say that one type of eceleb isn't allowed. He used "Almost all" interchangeably with "all", whereas I did not do the same with "plenty". My use of "plenty" is therefore acceptable. >>1571832 All irrelevant points. The title of this thread is "Eceleb faggotry containment thread". You've arbitrarily decided that only ecelebs who "provide substantial commentary" are allowed and are trying to police what others discuss instead of simply ignoring subjects that you aren't interested in.

>>1571904 We are on /v/, so obviously it's vidya related e-celebs. You know what you're doing. You're just trying to be an asshole for the sake of it. Also, he did not use "almost all" interchangeably with "all." He did exactly what you did, which was color the impression of the number in a certain direction. Your use is not more acceptable. You're just a faggot, and therefore never acceptable.

>>1572255 >We are on /v/, so obviously it's vidya related e-celebs. Yep. And a lolcow who posts endlessly about vidya counts. >He did exactly what you did, which was color the impression of the number in a certain direction. Your use is not more acceptable. Oh dear, you seem to not understand. He used "almost all" as a way of making it sound like the thread was exclusive to a certain type of eceleb, despite the fact that the inclusion of eceleb discussion that doesn't fall into that category destroys that narrative. The goal was to disregard evidence counter to the word "all" by adding "almost". Ergo, he was using "almost all" interchangeably with "all". Now, as for my use of "plenty", absolutely none of the former applies. "Plenty" doesn't need to be a majority. "Plenty" doesn't mean that I'm claiming other discussions can't happen. Anyone can see that I was not using "plenty" interchangeably with "all". >You know what you're doing. You're just trying to be an asshole for the sake of it. >You're just a faggot, and therefore never acceptable. Compelling. I'm sorry that my airtight logic has angered you so. All you needed to do was ignore discussion that you didn't want to be a part of.

>>1567182 He's jacked.

>>1572336 you seem about as deranged as nigger you posted the textwall screencap about or a troll

>>1572518 You seem mad.

>>1572336 You keep saying he used "almost all" to mean "all" and then argue that since it wasn't all then he's wrong. No, it wasn't quite all, so he said "almost." That's what that word is for. His use of "almost all" is to make it seem like what he was arguing was a significant enough number, and your use of "plenty" was to make it seem like what you were arguing was a significant enough number. It's exactly the same thing. >Oh dear Go back. You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded. >All you needed to do was ignore discussion that you didn't want to be a part of. As Spider-Man says, I'm enjoying my anger. Oh wait, you're obviously an outsider newfag and won't know what I'm talking about. >>1572518 >or a troll Well yeah obviously, but if you're compelled enough to reply (like I am) then don't admit it.

Op here, I thought just from the examples provided and the fact that this is primarily a video game board, that it was about e-celebs who have something to do with vidya, either that they do reviews on games like AVGN, Synthethic Man, patrician_tv or that they report on video game news like asmongold and Rev says desu. Though I know realize that those might have been horrible examples, since they are also drama channels, it's just that I mostly know asmongold as a WoW streamer and Rev for his coverage on Ubisoft. This is not a thread about Mister Beast or Ethan Klein or Creator Clash 3 cancellation, those belong in the LOL or Gamergate thread :^)

>>1562948 James' career was ruined the moment people realized that everything good about the AVGN show was made by someone else. James was just the puppet in front of the cameras. Ever since Mike appeared as the Joker and then as Bugs Bunny, and Kyle singing the show's song, people started asking to know who those guys were.Little by little it became clear that James' friends were the actual talents behind the AVGN. Not James himself. And that was confirmed the moment he started to get rid of his friends due to demands from his goblina jewess wife. Each talent that left the team has shown that the AVGN show needed them, and the show declined further after each loss. As soon as James assumed control, it became the most embarrassing and tedious version of the show. And once the fat jews came in, everything was completely ruined, with their typical derivative and boring "jokes", trademark of jews and their inability to create. They put the final nails in the coffin, but James was already doing a poor job by himself. That made clear to everyone that Mike, Kyle and the other friends were the ones who made AVGN actually good.

>>1566927 >>1566935 Ebonics is just the most pushed dialect at the moment. when Metal, EDM and rock was pushed out for rap in the 2010's, being a wigger became fashionable and no longer frowned upon.

>>1573178 dk who any of those faggots are. >mister beast James is cool, he should sell chocolate too, could call it "diarrhea buffalos", i would eat it.

>>1570749 Kind of looks like the Danny Phantom guy who shot up a supermarket.

I havent checked up on spoony in a few years, is he still doing miserable live streams and coming up with a hundred excuses why he doesn't make videos?

>>1574284 Last I heard, he somehow got in contact with the actor who played the main guy in Phantasmagoria 2, who has a youtube channel, and first did a Q&A, then played with him a few point and click adventure games. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zwYbt7zIp8I&list=PL9qFy7xdUfuSZcDaA0SlgfAwOtp7y1TzU I admit I haven't watched the Q&A, so I have no idea what he is up to.

>>1574284 >>1574407 He's been streaming on and off with the Phantasmagoaria 2 actor. Was last seen 4 months ago

>>1562551 This guy handles drama pretty well. When all the fence sitting e celebs and KF went after him a bit ago he boredly shut them down by sheer apathy.

>>1574914 It's still surreal to me that kiwitroons went after him so hard with dox and gay ops just because he cucked them with a vtuber.

>>1562754 I want to say he used to be a Dark Souls letsplayer, but in recent years he's just won tons of Reddit gold being your average cucknadian. Most recently he's been getting attention for saying calling a character your waifu is literally rape.

Does King Cobes like video games? I never see clips of him talking about them

>>1574914 >>1575609 Synthetic-Man simply not caring for the most part is what I think really broke both centrists like, Almighty Loli and his obiters along with Josh and Foxdicks farms. Him just not giving a fuck about their meltdowns and social pressure >He likes futa! <Admitted it and moved on >He's a rambling sperg <Openly admits it and moves on >He thinks loli is harmless! <Thinks if you're triggered by drawings you need help >Why doesn't the normal shit work! <Because he just doesn't care The normal catty behaviour and twitter dunks centrists types use didn't work as he doesn't care about twitter, the dox attempts Foxdicks tried because he fucked Kirsche ( Let's be real the two clearly met up and fucked, which is why Foxdicks and Almighty Loli are so asshurt.) Didn't work because he has proper opsec and because Foxdicks is fucking incompetent, and because he just didn't care about them sperging out. I have a lot of criticism of Synthetic-Man still, but he earned a lot of respect from me for just not giving the faggots a time of day.

>>1562147 are the allegations about synthethic man real? never watched any of his stuff but it would be funny if true.

>>1576363 Which ones?

>>1562551 >>1575901 What did Almighty Loli do? I've only seen some of his videos and he seemed alright but I don't follow shit on twitter.

>>1576675 He became a huge shill for KCD2 and kept defending the game even when it was proven pozzed.

>>1579601 Eh, even Mark did that, going as far as mass deleting posts and banning users for making negative posts about KCD2.

>>1576462 Does he really have hundreds of hours in a game as incredibly shitty as Dragon Ballbreakers?

>>1579601 >breserkfaggot defending gay and blacked shit Are you really that surprised?

>>1579728 Yes, but he basically only plays it on stream. It works at a stream game because he can talk during the parts that don't require a lot of attention, also chat is able to join the queue easily

>>1579601 Well the retard has egg on his face since the dev literally confirmed they worked with a consulting group to make the game more woke. gg for Synthetic Man tbh.

>>1576432 I don't know how someone even as delusional as this guy can pretend his "game" is anything to be proud of. He's been working on this thing for a decade now and beyond the coding issues it's literally babby's first RPGmaker experience, except he feels like he's above RPGmaker so he made it in his own engine.There aren't any puzzles beyond a couple "slide thing only way it can go" and "interact with the only thing you can interact with" and the SINGLE (!!!) combat encounter is just a cheap Simon says/dodge mini game. And the writing is insufferable but what else do you expect from a Blizzdrone furfag. The only thing anyone ever seems to give a pass is the art which is funny since it's the only thing besides the music the motherucker didn't do. If any /agdg/ anons are curious, take a look at a playthrough of this guy's """game""" for maybe a textbook example of everything not to do.

>>1585122 >SINGLE (!!!) combat encounter I refuse to believe that without further evidence

>>1584838 He and other centrists still refuse to admit that btw. Loli also defended the silent hill 2 remake and the women being ugly in that game.

>>1585468 Did mods ever fix it? or did the Nexus kill any hope of that to apeese King Charles?

>>1585468 How did he go from calling out the forced suffragette mission in Red Dead 2 and everything about TLOU2 (including the synagogue with no destructible environments) to that?

>>1566150 >hot LOL

>>1585995 I have no idea and it blows me away how much of a 180 he pulled. The centrist brain rot is unironically real and he lost so much credibility the past year.

>>1585995 Probably afraid of losing his retarded centrist fanbase. Imagine defending a fucking nigger in 15th century Bohemia.

>>1587227 It's crazy how so many of them still defend Musa while bitching over Asscreed Shadows. Say whatever you will about Synthetic-Man but the fucker was correct on the double standards.

>>1587242 Worse, they'll defend Musa and bitch about the faggotry, which was way more plausible, even if in bad taste. All because they don't want to be seen as "racist".

>>1585468 >Loli also defended the silent hill 2 remake and the women being ugly in that game. I will never understand why converting a simple clock puzzle from the original into an entire "fetch 3 things to progress" dungeon that adds nothing to the story better. It gets worse when Bloober team does it for the entirety of the 2nd half(Toluca Prison, the Maze and Lakeview).

>>1587252 >Worse, they'll defend Musa and bitch about the faggotry, which was way more plausible, even if in bad taste. >All because they don't want to be seen as "racist". I think what bothers me more is even ignoring the DEI the game just sucks as an RPG as you have no agency and are often forced to do bitch work. It also just ignores how people of the time acted and how Christian everyone was, plus the whole Sigmund going on a Shoah of the Jews was just cartoonish. Fun fact Musa would've been killed as Sigmund hated the Ottomans by extension all Muslims with all of his soul.

>>1584838 >>1585468 Grummz very softly called out Hypnotic who defended himself by saying "I didn't play until the woke part", as if that makes him look better. Talking about a game you didn't finish is the type of incompetence that journos are called out for, at least have the decency of watching a playthrough

>>1587242 The optional content thing is also another double standard because anti-woke people are always complaining about optional content

DSP do anything interesting lately or is he still boring as fuck?

>>1585468 SH2 devs worked with Sweet Baby (or Hit Detection I can't remember). I remember Loli having good takes, when did he become a faggot. >>1588344 He's apparently getting sued by Billy Mitchell.

>>1588331 Oh yeah, that is such a disingenuous argument, everything is optional so might as well do the main quest only! Whoops, turns out Musa isn't optional!

>>1588344 He streams with Gahoole

>>1589483 Gahoole went full KF and tried spreading the pedo narrative when this site got popular again.

Matthewmatosis made a puzzle game called Logic Bombs, which might explain the hiatus. It can also be played on a Game Boy.

To act like KCD2 was entirely about "muh centrists" vs "based truthsayers" is to forget the mountains of misinformation spread by multiple parties beginning all the way from it's prerelease "unskippable gay sex scene that got it banned from Saudi Arabaia". Synthetic Man himself basically admitted to pushing "child sodomy" shit even if he knew that shit wasn't true to catch "normies attention", so to pretend all he was doing was calling out faggotry and everyone around him had a meltdown is fundamentally ignoring reality. The doxxing and the circumstances has me be a bit more sympathetic to Synthetic Fag, but e-celeb worship is the gayest shit to ever exist, no exception.

>>1590908 So, it's just Minesweeper?

>>1591118 Its more picross than mine sweeper. You know the place of the bombs, you use logic to figure out where the walls are placed to kill mobs/save crystals

>>1591080 > but e-celeb worship is the gayest shit to ever exist, no exception. The consensus is he's a sperg and faggot but the people who hate him are worse in regards.

>>1591080 >Synthetic Man himself basically admitted to pushing "child sodomy" shit even if he knew that shit wasn't true But it was true, Henry being underage is a plot point in the first game, and the sequel happens a few months later

>>1585356 1 combat encounter repeated twice, you can watch a playthrough

So mang0 was allowed to act generally degenerate for 2 decades but the moment he makes a woman uncomfortable he gets cancelled?

>>1591661 Who?

>>1591661 Literally fucking WHO?

Go to gay baby jail >>1562147

>>1566689 I actually didn't give much of a shit about him one way or another until that GDC(?) conference where this very polite and earnest Japanese indie dev stood up and asked him what he thought about modern Japanese games - and Phil just layed into him about how he thought Japanese games sucked and how they need to get with the times. Broke that poor little nip's heart in front of all those people for no fucking reason, with one of the shittiest and most arrogant takes I've ever heard.

Thread >>1591661 has been merged here.

>>1573319 No, it's not that his friends were the talent and later he assumed control, it's that he gave up both his friends and his control around the same time so he could spend more time with his family. Blame his wife if you want, that might be accurate, but he does seem to love his kids dearly, given how he never stopped talking about them back when he still did ad-libbed out of character videos. But I gotta go, it's past 5:40 and I'm running late. Also, I think only one of the Screenslobs, Justin Silverman, was a jew. That said, he is Big Ryan's second in command, and seemingly the guy put in charge of managing Cinemassacre (since Big Ryan runs the whole company and thus many different channels). Big Ryan fan, btw.

>>1591531 Stop worshipping liars.

>>1593104 Picrel literally describes the events that happen in the game. Out of all the reasons to criticize him why do you have to pick jewish disinformation?

>>1593136 >jewish disinformation is the guy himself admitting that he's intentionally being a click-baiting faggot A worm remains worm regardless of political affiliation. Whether the eceleb is "based" or not does not change that he's partaking in the same behaviors people actually hate ecelebs and journalists for. The codex entry is there to point you at the historical reference rather than the character actually there, with them admitting to aging up character all the way since the first game and the second game did the same with Hans. KCD2 has a lot to be criticized for, but actually pretending the "child sodomy" shit has any ground is the most obnoxious moralfagging I've seen from "based" personalities in years.

>>1593211 Hanush is Hans' guardian in the game, which only makes sense if he's underage. The aging up excuse is like porn games claiming that their schoolgirls are +18

>>1593220 Have you considered that's because he doesn't consider him ready yet for real responsibilities due to immaturity and inexperience? >The aging up excuse is like porn games claiming that their schoolgirls are +18 Look how underage this guy looks. Bet you stalk playgrounds if you think this guy looks old enough to drink :^).

>>1593220 Why can’t you understand that fucking little boys in the ass is based and redpilled goy?

>>1593136 Markvart is the main villain of the game, yet he's supposed to be dead as stated in the Codex. So you have two options to choose from: either you're fighting a magical resurrected corpse or the codex is just fucking worthless as a reference to anything.

>>1590038 I don't get how KiwiFarms became this moralfag "anti-pedo" (SHE'S 17 YOU SICK FUCK!) crusader site when the owner Josh Moon admitted he jacks off to shota.

>>1594067 Probably a combination of troll's remorse, burying one's past and this Stonetoss comic.

>>1594067 >be pedophile <If I loudly vocalize against pedophilia, nobody will ever suspect I'm a pedophile You don't even have to be remorseful to do this, but it's usually the remorseful pedokikes that get extremely vocal and to extreme lengths in their crusade. Accusing everyone of being a pedo also works as an obfuscation tactic.

>>1594067 >>1594090 Well that plus the fact that society just doesn't care about boys as much as it does girls. There's not the same same visceral girl is in danger response like what loli stuff elicits from some people, so shota stuff gets brushed aside.

>>1593104 >>1593211 >>1593260 >Anons admit Synthetic man had a point regarding certain people but ultimately still think he's a Turbo sperg <Your worshipping him! This is just being dishonest and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was a orbiter of one of the e celebs who sucked the game off.

>>1594446 Around the time of the KCD2 drama there was a lot of "He's the only honest eceleb!" around here while the whole child sodomy debacle was happening which soured my opinion on him and his fanbase.

>>1594573 >>1594573 >Around the time of the KCD2 drama there was a lot of "He's the only honest eceleb!" around here Most people here on /v/ mocked him for being, a futa loving sperg at worst and at best they said he was correct about the DEI shit in KDC2, and the "enlightened centrists" who sucked it off while whining about Asscreed. Most people were like pic related really not too impressed with anyone involved.

>>1593136 >Out of all the reasons to criticize him I'm also going to have to point out that he's a modern Billy/OneAngryGamer, where there are honest to god things to critique him on. But they choose the worst things and more often or not prove his point, by being even bigger idiots than him (Almighty Loli straight up denying Musa being DEI when shown evidence).

>>1594763 So almighty was always controlled op confirmation?

>>1591661 are you complaining that he was banned, or celebrating that it took this long? Anyway the melee tourneyfag community is stuck in 2013. It's been 12 years, they know they are way past their expiration date, is why they keep cancelling people and cannibalizing the scene.

>>1574284 The last I saw, he caused a car crash near where he lives, went on a live stream to call it a "learning experience" while there is video footage of 2 witnesses proving that he gave false testimony about the accident to a local cop. He also lost the house he was paying with stolen money from the retards who donated for his kikestarter movie, and is now back to living with his parents. His last girlfriend broke up with him and his dog Oreo died. His life is a even worse mess now. All because he couldn't handle the fact that the majority of America sided with president Donald Trump.

>>1594763 >>1594817 TAL has a problem where if he's confronted with information that goes against his views enough he'll not only double down but outright say he doesn't want to hear it. I know he was like that with the issues of pitbulls just because he has/had a pitbull that was a gentle sweet dog. It's like niggers not understanding per capita or women not understanding averages.

>>1595722 The fact that him and so much centrists still actively deny, the blatant shit in KDC2 blows my mind. There is a reason why I said earlier that >>1562551 was the canary in the coalmine regarding internet centrists, it's not even about liking Synthetic-Man but noticing none of them actually addressed the proof in his video (there were plenty of other people that they also refused to address). They instantly went for ad hominems, going all out to discredit the video by using his spergy nature to deflect. That's fucking disingenuous and it disproves their long standing claim, that they aren't like the sjws or muh "anti woke culture warrior spregs" who act on an agenda to push narratives they like. When for the KCD2 drama and other drama they've been doing just that.

>>1595760 It's kinda like how Crowbcat makes A LOT of good points on games being falsely advertised & downgraded. Yet there are people who view him with complete contempt for.... showing them reality.

>"MUH CENTRISTS" cries out the eceleb kiddy as you call his target of parasocial affection a shitter Am I not allowed to dislike him and his ilk for scum fuck shit? Do I have to be a centrist to not be led by "based" ecelebs and grifters when they're pulling the same shit as their leftists counterparts? >>1594763 >he's a modern Billy/OneAngryGamer Difference is Billy was there when shit actually mattered and had a bit of outreach, Synthetic is a streamer you go to get your opinion reaffirmed because you need listen to someone who agrees with you on everything. >>1594723 Generally the only time I've seen him brought up is when his fanbase imports eceleb shit or uses him as a reference for whatever he told them isn't morally pure enough for them. If it simply was mockery you wouldn't see the defense force crawling out whenever you talk shit about him.

57e657 are you intentionally obtuse?

>>1596043 I called him a liar that intentionally branded something as pedophilic to get attention, which he admitted to doing, and the cockgobblers here started crying about centrists instead because apparently only centrists don't take their talking heads tell them at face value. You tell me on who's pretending to be retarded here so they won't confront things they're uncomfortable about.

>>1595960 I'm just going to assume you're some retard from Twitter who doesn't understand the nuance of someone can be retarded but have a point regarding something. You keep hyper focusing on synthetic man while ignoring everything else. Is this an example of Synthetic man derangement syndrome?

>>1596058 Because his shit eating fanbase is currently infesting the board the most and is in my face the most when posting here. If I had to deal with faggots worshiping Vaush or Matthewmattosis as a reference point I'd shittalk them too, generally the only eceleb leeches that make their way here are Synthetic Man's and their flavor of herd-following and ideological purity. I wouldn't be this annoyed if niggers like you go out to bat for shit he's actually wrong about. There's no "yeah he fucked up here" or leaving the post, it's just crying about those foul "centrists" for not being right enough and not nodding their heads at a faggot pulling the exact same shit as Jason Schreier did.

>>1596112 Literally no one's defending Synthetic Man. He exaggerates & reaches for outrage. We're just pointing out that when he is right that other youtubers ignore those points completely.

>>1596837 >Literally no one's defending Synthetic Man. Nigger, what do you call insisting that he's right about shit he's obviously insincere about and calling everyone who is annoyed by him and his shit-eating fanbase an outsider, deranged or centrist?

>>1596883 Maybe stop acting deranged then. Again he can be right about things while still being an outrage baiter for views. His Death Stranding video kinda reaches with saying the series is propaganda for the NWO peddling "eat ze bugz" narratives

>>1596886 He's not wrong about that though

>>1596896 You can only say for sure Kojima wanted a narrative of "connectivity" via literally building bridges with other people.

>>1596901 Anon, Synthetic Man isn't the only one stating this. The whole game sucks off Globohomo

>>1596886 >Maybe stop acting deranged then. I hate being lied to my face. If I wanted to have e-celeb peddled disinformation unchallenged due to political affiliations or have to start every post with a paragraph of apologia not to hurt someone's feefees I'd have gone to Reddit.

>>1596906 I would need to see more. I don't doubt Kojima's politics & do agree with other points he brings up like the hard stronk womyn/mothers messaging. Alongside a "subtle" men bad narrative. >>1596910 And no one's doing that. You're overreacting.

>>1595785 Wasn't that just for the RE4 demake? Or did it happen on his other videos like the one for Dead Rising deluxe remaster?

>>1597161 In general there's people who act like he's at fault for games failing or damaging reputations. Like Cyberpunk for example.

>>1597175 The amount of people he mind broke with that RE4 vs Demake vid is hilarious. Still to this day the demake shills are arse blasted by him just showing side by side comparisons.

>>1597161 Besides those two given and Cyberpunk >>1597175 >No Man's Sky >Oblivion Remaster There's also that one time he praised a VR game and caught shit from it so people blaming him cling to that.

Jesus he really lost it with the SDS.

I got a Jirard video on my recommendations, turns out he made his last video 11 months ago. Have we gotten any updates on the money?

>>1598684 It's more that you're obnoxious retards who takes it personally whenever your e-daddy isn't given a pass for being grifting faggot. Being an eceleb shitter is one thing, being one so dedicated to protecting their maiden's honor that the reflexive response is screeching about Twitter and centrists would've gotten you bullied off the site in 2014.

That vidya analysis channel Matthewmatosis made a game called Logic Bombs! Wow!! https://youtube.com/watch?v=x5bzBcFFP-k https://store.steampowered.com/app/3816700/Logic_Bombs/

>>1599304 >millions of views >tens of thoundands of fanboys willing to defend him in every corner of the net >161 reviews A sobering reminder of how low-commitment internet discourse really is.

>>1599304 >>1599467 I already posted a webbum: >>1590908 I find it annoying to think that a few months out IRL and no uploads = dead, but that's most of YT nowadays.

>>1599293 Nothing about you is sincere.

>>1600167 It must be a wonderful world you live in where everyone not be as receptive to your e-daddy is some combination of your undesirables and those things you find inconvenient to your world-view never happen.

>>1598915 It is disturbing how much retards trust someone "famous" just for being famous, to the point of wasting money on fake donations. They never learn from their past mistakes, or from others' mistakes. From Inafundme to this lower genes freak, there seems to always be some retards who will donate to them for no other reason than they are "famous" in some circles.

Synthetic really is a modern Billy considering how retarded his haters are and the lengths they'll go to cry about him.

>>1599293 Imagine killing yourself with a KSG Fucking hell, cuckchanners have the shittiest of taste.

Irate Gamer won AVGN lost

>>1607580 anyone from ohio?

>>1607580 W... W-was that dummy thicc Slenderman?

Does this site even have mods? Because 57e657 is just a halfchan fag. The entire appeal of 8chan is that we don’t have these things shitting up every thread.

>>1610203 >The entire appeal of 8chan is that it's more heavily moderated than 4chan We've come full circle.

>>1610203 I legitimately don't think you could've made a worse post as an attempt to fit in.

>Cuckchanners trying to pull oldfag rank over daring to shit up their circlejerk over their sacred cow. >While being this unaware of the site's culture or history down to the very reason the exoduses happened. It's like ecelebs and their leeches used to be unanimously bullied for a reason.

>>1610621 Eceleb threads should be banned like they were on Prime. 4chan Embassy thread.

>>1610795 Well, you could go to the meta thread to bitch and maybe convince Mark to change Rule 9.

The only "ecelebs" are watch are "video game playthrough no commentary full playtime" channels to see if a game is even worth pirating

>>1610621 I'll have you know I've had great autistic conversations about James Rolfe many times here in the last decade. But I have no idea who these other ecelebs they're talking about are. The issue is not the topic, it's the userbase. Cuckchanners will have stupid conversations about stupid things. A proper culture doesn't need explicit rules, but upon being invaded by foreigners, we suddenly find ourselves needing to try to make strict rules just to try to keep something at least slightly approximating our culture.

>>1610621 >>1610795 >>1611118 These threads are kept alive by crossposting spergs from /r/TheCinemassacreTruth who have a bizarre, autistic obsession with AVGN. It's kind of like the shit you see with lolcow culture and the foxdicks. I recommend you just filter them.

>>1611423 Yeah, it's impossible for a /v/irgin to be knowledgeable about AVGN, it has to be those fucking redditors, or cuckchanners.

>>1611430 Thanks for agreeing~ :3

>>1611423 I get being autistic about the AVGN but I wish more people would talk about (((video essays))) and channels that go in depth about game dev and mechanics.

>>1611423 I sperged about Rolfe in this thread, but I've never used reddit. Can't understand how you're even supposed to function with a system that doesn't show posts in chronological order, and I certainly would never make an account. But Rolfe is an inspiring filmmaker who was highly influential in a whole new form of media, and as a fan of the same era of games, and someone interested in mid-2000s indie filmmaking (real indie, not just the hipster trash they were putting out in theaters at the time), I appreciated (and still appreciate) what he did. But he didn't realize what he was really doing, and he saw it as a stepping stone to "greater" things, and I think that was his real folly. He didn't realize that he was already more influential than a lot of the filmmakers he wanted to be like. He's a fascinating filmmaker that will be important in the overall history of the medium. He may never get the recognition of the big names like Zorrofan, but he is notable. He's not just some guy who turns a camera on and shouts at video games, or rants about politics, or whatever else other ecelebs do. He's an actual filmmaker, who has made over 540 films. Say what you want about their quality, and certainly there are funny things to point out about them, but he was one of the first people to basically make a TV show for the internet, and he did it with practically no budget and a couple of friends. It's impressive and deserves to be remembered. But yeah some of the memes that have filtered out from the Truthers are funny. I could never be bothered to learn how to use their website, but every once in a while they say something funny enough that I hear about it anyway. Big Ryan fan, btw.

>>1611921 Video essays are largely pseudointellectual trash. I'm sure there are some good ones, but I haven't come across many. And even then, since they're (supposed to be) nonfiction, it's not as interesting, or at least more difficult, to talk about them, as opposed to the information they are (supposed to be) simply relaying to you. I'll occasionally end up clicking on some hours long history of Crash Bandicoot or whatever, because I like the game, but the guy who made the video isn't that interesting. It takes some sort of skill to communicate the info effectively, but I don't care. The creativity is not why I'm watching, as opposed to AVGN, where the comedy is the point. When they try to get too creative, they end up being annoying, and usually end up just being leftist propaganda anyway, since that's the type of person who tries to inject their personality into something that's supposed to be nonfiction. Of course there are others, like Nostalgia Critic, where I think the comedy, the filmmaking, is the point. But Doug Walker is just such a thoroughly untalented person that I can't sit through any of his work, even though I think I genuinely admire his perseverance. Yeah he sucks, but he just never gives up. People hate on him and he laughs it off and takes it in stride and he just keeps on going. He tried to break away and do other things, and it didn't work, so he made a movie about how it sucks but he has to go back to his cash cow series, which he apparently doesn't even like either, but he's gonna keep trying anyway. Good for him. But I still can't sit through more than scattered clips that my friends show me, due to the interesting pathos they reveal in the author. As for stuff that goes in depth about game dev and mechanics, I do like GameHut, but I don't understand half the stuff he talks about since a lot of it is very technical. But the man actually was the director of many games that I really love, so it's cool to see him talk about how he did it. Plus, he actually released a real Director's Cut of Sonic 3D Blast, which actually made the game a lot better, and that was cool.

>>1562147 I'll just bite: Does anyone else have a bad aftertaste whenever you see ecelebs that used to be /v/tards but now openly renounce everything and promote the LGBT?

>>1611943 >Doug Walker At this point I respect for being able to laugh at himself and just making videos for his fanbase. >>1611963 Yea the trolls remorse types are faggots.

>>1611943 The problem I have with video essays are how low-effort they are despite being unbearably long. Most of the time it’s some guy ripping everything from Wikipedia, a fan wiki, or straight up plagiarism from someone who covered the topic before.

>>1611430 There's knowledgable and then there's spouting thirty pages from Rolfe's biography, that crosses a line into autism. >>1612140 >straight up plagiarism from someone who covered the topic before How is someone supposed to dodge plagirism regarding some topics in video game essaying though? Especially older games that have been covered to death like Sonic Adventure 1/2, DMC1-3, Final Fantasy, Zelda, Pokemon, it feels impossible to reinvent the wheel and offer a unique perspective that's worth writing a script for. Large part of why I don't despite wanting to all the time.

>>1610098 I hope they're indies. If not, you've got to leave the plantation.

>>1612651 >There's knowledgable and then there's spouting thirty pages from Rolfe's biography, that crosses a line into autism. But was I'm a skeleton. Anyway, where do you think you are?

>>1612951 >But was I'm a skeleton what >bing >first result >... You're begging to be bullied

>>1612985 It's in the book. Not my fault Google is stupid and lists other people talking about it before it lists the original source. I like the book. I think he's an interesting guy with an interesting and inspirational story. But he's also funny by accident sometimes, and that line is kinda funny. I don't go on Reddit, but fine, I'll admit some other ecelebs I do like. Red Cow Entertainment. Their main show is two big fat guys reviewing boxes of macaroni and cheese, but then one of them lost weight, and then their channel blew up with a no effort video where they talked about James Rolfe, so now their no effort podcast is basically the main thing and not the mac and cheese review show which they for some reason put a lot of effort into. That channel is how I learn about a lot of the memes. I then stuck around to watch a bunch of their other videos and I do think the main guy is actually really funny and has some good criticism sometimes. But also I just know the actual info anyway because I'm a big James fan, btw. It's been 19 years that I've been watching every video he put out. Of course I'm not gonna stop watching them now. Even though by describing it in this thread, I realize he stopped making very good videos about eight years ago. His book was actually interesting, though, even if it did have typos due to only being proofread by his wife and one of Big Ryan's minimum wage slobs. But actually, the best source of AVGN memes was Monster Madness of The Assholish Variety. It was from the Truthers as well, but they got together and made their own Monster Madness, using a primitive (2022) AI James Rolfe voice. The first year was actually really good. It quickly dropped off as a bunch of retards who just wanted to do their own thing instead of parodying actual Monster Madness started submitting videos and poisoning the well. But that first year, when it was just true AVGN spergs, was funny.

>>1562723 >Ecelebs like AVGN, Jontron and Nostalgia Critic start their careers with simple, cheap recordings of themselves reviewing old crappy games, movies and tv shows >No sketches or barely any sketches >They're still pure fun >Said ecelebs get more and more popular >They suddenly start making more expensive produced review videos with no soul and shoving lots of unnecessary, unfunny sketches >They stop being as fun as they were originally were So many cases like that

>>1616563 Then again that was one of the reasons AVGN Movie flopped really hard: Instead of making a low budget b-movie like his old home-made short b-movies he tried really hard to appeal to Hollywood audience while he lacked the budget, connections and talents that Hollywood producers have.

Sseth's latest video is kind of bad. It's just the Elona video all over again. I still like his stuff compared to faggots like Maxor, but it's a struggle to watch because all he's doing is making references to memes and wacky things you can do in-game with little video editing and almost no structure. He doesn't say much about the game itself, only what you can do in it. Why should I play the game if he's already telling me all of these strategies? Why should I play the game if there's no real point to it? What's the selling point? Is it autism? Why should I even buy this game, especially if it, apparently, lacks QoL options?

>>1621543 OK Lumi.

>>1621543 His videos have been hit or miss since jewtube doubled down on censorship. Wonder how much more censored it's going to be with Western governments pushing for even more censorship because Israel is under attack.

>>1621543 Correction to this: after rewatching the video, I realized that he does explain that there are QoL options. Apparently, there just aren't any for things as simple as auto-collecting fish, other than auto-collecting fish. If there is some way to set a filter or weight limit, he doesn't mention it. >>1621568 What? >>1621573 I think that YouTube guidelines have clamped down on him in the same way they did people like Demolition D, but I also think that, in the same way, he may have burned out on making reviews or had something happen, good or bad, in his real life. He kept mentioning taking medication for a few reviews, and in one review he said he stopped taking his medication and would make a bunch of reviews from then on. Now, it's almost silent. The jokes are getting staler too. Who Sneedposts or makes jokes about taxes and the IRS anymore?

>>1621543 If there is any idea to the video, it's that "you can do anything" and "here is some of the zanny shit I did in the game" like making a farm of old people. >>1621573 >>1621598 Censorship is part of the problem, I recently watched his Might and Magic II video out of curiosity, and was a bit shocked when he used the term "faggot" (video still up and uncensored). I have no problem with the term itself, I call anons faggots all the time, it's just that in a world of "PDFile" and "unalive" I am a bit shoked to find a jewtube video, even if it's 6 years old, to have such words. Another part, is that I think he is probably getting tired of it. As >>1566096 said, being "autismo the clown" might be fun in your 20s and earns you a lot of money, but then you turn 30 and suddenly it's no longer fun to be "autismo the clown". He might want to quit, but whatever job he can get, doesn't pay as well as his jewtube grift, so either he gets a low paying job with the hope of advancing in his career and hope to maybe earn as much money as he once did on jewtube, or continue to do jewtube videos, earn money, but at any time everything can come crashing down on him, and then he is stuck with only low paying jobs, while his highschool and university classmates are now in their senior roles for their respective careers.

>>1621609 Anon, Sseth is a medical professional (or at least a scientist with a very high biomedical knowledge). Salary is not much of a concern for him.

>>1621612 I thought he said he quit doing that so he could go full time as a content creator jewtuber.

S0 was it ever figured out what happened? Other than one of the members disrespecting and throwing shade at another for years and downplaying it is "just a joke man"?

>>1626473 We have an eceleb thread Mr. Newfag, but to answer your question, Woolie said it very plainly - they stopped being friends. Sometimes it's really that simple, there doesn't need to be a "Jon hit Arin's girlfriend" theory behind every /v/core eceleb's disbandment.

>>1626483 >We have an eceleb thread Mr. Newfag I don't care nigger. I wanted a thread for SBF, but I got merged with faggot central anyway.

>>1626507 Do you think that the average 8moe/v/ user is going to be more familiar with SBF than anons specifically in the thread already devoted to discussion about e-celebs, such as SBF and other channels contemporary with them? Discounting the fact that there is already a rule making it so that all e-celeb faggotry should be contained to one thread, what makes you think a separate one would have made it survive the first page before falling into obscurity as opposed to being part of this one? To more clearly answer your question, I don't think anything really "happened," I think all three of them simply decided they had different beliefs and as such decided to go their separate ways without any major drama highlighting their departure. I'm not incredibly familiar with them so there could have been some retarded drama acting as the crux of it, but considering both Pat and Woolie were still together making videos to the end of their channel's existence it simply seems like they decided to part ways and did so gracefully rather than acrimoniously. Is it so crazy to think people can end something as easily as they begin it?

Watching Pewdiepie's switch to Linux and attempts at electronics engineering is endearing and made me wonder why I started watching VTubers and other e-celebs. Watching women wearing aesthetics that appeal to autistic brown or yellow mental eunuchs as they play games badly and talk about their stupid pointless lives isn't nearly as entertaining or worth my time as watching him talk about his Linux setup and the little gadgets he has made with a voice, body, and tone that don't make me want to punch him in the face like every techtuber. I felt more satisfied watching those two videos from him than any countless hours watching reviewers, VTubers, or anyone else in years. Why should I care about people who look and live like shit? Why should I watch there content? Reviewers and VTubers are the video equivalent of using a walkthrough to play a game, and modern roguelikes, respectively. There's no point in either of them unless you want to waste your time. Sure, he used to be a letsplayer, but these two videos are more worthwhile than any video game review or video essay or lost media faggot you can point me to. Who gives a shit about some retarded movie reel of a jew acting like a clown that was stolen by a Swedish guy or lost episodes of some stupid, inane cartoon that only a handful of people remember? Are the people who boost these things into the popular sphere really just young children, browns, aging adults, and mentally deficient autistics? Is that all "content creation" is these days? I sit around for five hours watching someone in his or her late twenties to early thirties, or maybe even his or her forties, talk about some retarded bullshit, and it goes in one ear and out the other like a bunch of background noise as I work or play some timewasting game, and after that, I regurgitate their opinions because they presented themselves as authority figures in the most trite and banal way possible? Then if I want to see something for kids, it's all just faceless, derivative animations made by people who can barely speak English, or niggers of various colors and nationalities bouncing around? Who cares? Why should I care? Watching the latest GLITCH cartoon or even something like Skibidi Toilet (which is already mostly out of youth culture) is more worthwhile than listening to some balding retard make background noise as he narrates a playthrough and calls it a review because he gave some thoughts about it at the end, some whore who is living proof that mental asylums were a social good and should have been worse to those interned in them talk about gross sex stuff, some SEA monkey's unintentional argument for his own euthanasia as he either talks about a TV show that should be forgotten to time or presents his DMCA-abusing, poorly rigged shucking and jiving animation that's worse than anything John Money ever could have made in how it scratches the base impulses deeply embedded in the still folding brains of children, or the antics of those whose coethnics have an average IQ that was considered dehabilitatingly retarded before the civil rights movement and their human biomass emulators. >TL;DR E-Celebs are, for the most part, a waste of time and breathing evidence that there was more nuance to the Colonel's argument and characters like The Judge than whatever fat, bearded troglodyte gave you and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people your opinions on them. The internet and those on it were better when they were whiter both biologically and culturally, and if technologically regressing so it's impossible to even conceive of an Indian person isn't going to happen, the human race should be liquidated to five hundred million people, and history should be rewritten so that certain races went extinct before that. The Romans had a better understanding of history as a concept outside of truth than we do. The Chinese are pathetic for clinging to a past made to enslave them to poverty, but that's a more sympathetic reality than the phenomenons, some of which are Chinese, that have produced the contemporary e-celeb in the screaming panopticon of this American-backed world. People like AVGN and the Nostalgia Critic should be retired and tending to their families (though you don't have to be married to be successful or worthwhile, I've just written this since it's the obvious path for them) since the early 2010s, only coming back for big projects. Instead, they're ageing into oblivion as they sit around and decay in front of the dreaded masses whose breeding doesn't let them identify how to properly live without instruction. People like Asmongold, Critikal, Pirate Software, and whoever else who makes content directed at these same masses should be in ditches dug for them with heavy machinery because they'd never be able to dig a hole on their own. I could go on and on about what the people I've described deserve, but I hate these people and this system of digital acculturation which has removed the idea of being an online personality from a noble concept which could have been normalized for those suited to it and placed it into a trash bin, a safety net for unrecognized laughingstocks who should be ashamed to death but never will be because of the chemicals which induce an almost pornographic response provided by people whose IQs cap at fever temperature by clapping like trained seals as they, the viewer and the viewed, waste their lives, barely able to string a sentence together. Pewdiepie's recent content, the hobbyist works, aren't like that. They're sincere. The reasons for this are too long for an already too long TL;DR. >STL;DR I like Pewdiepie's new content and think it's worth watching. I think that if you have any aspirations for yourself, you should watch his handful of hobbyist videos. I recommend the videos about Linux, gadgetry, de-Googling, dream journaling, and art. If you're using SponsorBlock, be careful about what settings you have enabled. Whoever marked his videos is retarded and probably Indian or autistic in a bad way. Ignore the family vlogs, reaction videos, and gaming videos; the guy's a dad and a Millennial.

>>1637434 >TL;DR, e-celebs are shit and I'd trade every last one of them to bring Terry Davis back to life so he could give more tech tutorials about talking to God via a custom OS

>>1637434 I read your rant and appreciate it heavily anon, you are an inspiration to spergs everywhere and are leagues above most normal faggots who are so glued to their phones you'd need a jaws of life to deprive them if they could be any deeper into them.

>>1637434 A work of autism

Patrician_tv just came back from his bike tour of America, just to release his long awaited Fallout video drama slop on Pirate Software. I love this clown world.

>>1653888 Why that reddit faggot ever posted here is beyond my comprehension.

>>1653897 Sorry, I should have posted in the Stop Killing Games thread.

>>1653903 I'm talking about Patrician_tv and your post is more fitting for this thread honestly.

>>1637434 Churning out YouTube videos weekly (or worse, daily) and incentivizing that was a grave mistake, and the new Vine clones are making it worse. Finding old videos is also a challenge even with searching "before:2015" and sometimes makes me wonder if the Internet really never forgets. I enjoy looking back at old film footage of technology since it was still niche around that time (and it's fun). There's already a resurgence of that thanks to nostalgia and clueless zoomers that might react to them, and it's also a similar matter for video games.

>>1653914 I have to apologize, I thought you were calling me a redditor for posting about e-celeb in the e-celeb thread. As for why he ever posted here on the old 8chan, probably because he was in the Gamergate movement from the early days, then participated in things like the Boston Salt Party, or whatever it was called, when people gave spoilers for Fallout 4. Pic related, is the only post he ever confirmed to have made on the old 8chan. Personally I doubt he posts here, as he has his Discord kittens to interact with.

>>1653888 I welcome the dedication for Halo machinima.

>>1637434 >and modern roguelikes, >shitting on roguelikes Okay. Thanks for saying this so early on so I knew right away to discard this shit opinion. At least if you mean actual roguelikes such as DCSS, Angband, etc. if you mean roguelite tier trash then arguably.

Chibi/ShinyAquana do anything funny lately? Last time I checked on him he was speedrunning Mario Golf in the middle of the night right next to his Japan tourist group while they were trying to sleep. Good times.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wivEnuubViE This video was pretty neat.

>>1669135 A bit unhinged, but I enjoyed it. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>1669527 I checked out the rest of his stuff, and "unhinged" is definitely his thing. This video feels like his most level headed and cohesive one yet, and that’s saying something since his content goes back 18 years.

>>1669659 Besides the video you linked, I also checked his iDubbz one, and that seemed even more level headed, maybe because it was something he truly cared about and spoke from his heart, kinda like the Tony Hawks video, only that there was no Blackrock influencing iDubbz so it looked less "conspiracy theory nutjob".

Remember when every youtuber had this face as their profile pic, like, back in 2012 or something? I remember at least Vsauce doing that but I think there were more.

>>1669135 Great video. I really enjoyed the part where Quagmire questions if it's fun to have trannys in video games, the part about perfection not being beautiful or interesting, and the part about his folder pathway. I hope he makes more videos like this but maybe he already said everything he wanted to say

>>1671806 You know it would help if you actually said something about this guy. Do you think he did nothing wrong? Are you glad he got sidelined by the community? Was he right when he changed the ebony mine into an iron one? Did you actually know anything about him, or did you just recently watch Down the Rabbit Hole?

>>1673613 I just wanted you to laugh at the threatening gaze

Seems like Youtube's algorithm changed a couple weeks ago, videos are getting less views

>>1673864 <threatening gaze Fucker got a whole jar of tomato sauce on his face. How could anyone be threatened by this?

>>1671806 Did he ever react to Todd Howard making the destruction of the Oblivion gates canon in that one Skyrim paid mod? You'd think he'd have gone ballistic over that.

>>1562147 Are there any good vidya critique/analysis/review guys that make something actually interesting and in-depth (instead of sounding like ChatGPT summarizing game's most superficial elements)? Matthewmatosis was good but he doesn't make videos anymore

This is e-celeb and hardware news related. The fucking kikes at Bloomberg struck down the movie by Gamers Nexus about how Jewvidia smuggles GPUs to Western Taiwan. It is a long shot, but I hope the greedy fucking lawyers get fucked by whoever is going to do as the comment says. In the end, I can only pray to almighty God that there is a place for these faggots in hell. It is interesting to note that Kikeberg is sponsored mainly by Jewvidia too.

>>1690790 For channels that provide significant constructive analysis on the games they talk about, I would recommending checking out any one of the following: >PatricianTV (focuses on Bethesda games, most notably covered the TES series with a very detailed multi-hour video breakdown of each installment) Up his own ass, but informative beyond measure >Likewise, PrivateSessions (focuses almost solely on Bethesda games, an associate of and alternative perspective to Patrician's views and analyses) >MandaloreGaming (mainly covers obscure older titles and smaller new titles pretty informatively) All despite being a rumor-milling cuck >Marsh (covers obscure Dreamcast/PS1-era JRPGs) >Dungeon Chill (covers mainly Japanese-specific games as well as niche 90's/00's Western releases) >Design Frame (covers more modern titles, most notable for covering the newer Steel Wool FNAF titles in an incredibly scathing light) >Wicked Wiz (focuses mainly on literal Steam Greenlight slop, but provides analysis from a game design perspective) >TehSnakerer (covers Sonic, Yakuza, and a large range of older Euro-centric and smaller titles) >Running Shine (covers mainly 90's era games, focuses on humor and entertainment over analysis but high production value to videos) I'm repeating a few of these that I've posted before in the thread, but I personally feel that each of these channels does provide valuable detail and analysis or at the least a unique perspective on and insight into the games that are covered by them. From a purely technical and game design angle, I would highlight PatricianTV's retrospectives and Design Frame's analyses of games to be the most informative for someone interested in understanding what makes a game work/"tick" when it comes to design and development. Most of these other suggestions lean more towards entertainment and a general overview of the subject in question, though I do want to give special mention to TehSnakerer's coverage of the Brigand series (a set of games made quite literally by a single incredibly motivated pothead) and the consideration given to understanding and analyzing what a single person is capable of doing in terms of game dev, design, and polish.

>>1595722 Recently he got a Priest and Nun conflated and refused to accept he was incorrect. He sperged out and the twatter user actually handled himself pretty well.

>>1699226 >Recently he got a Priest and Nun conflated How does that happen? One Has a benis and the other a bagina. It's pretty simple to figure out.

>>1699240 He's really fallen off.

>>1699240 I'm assuming he thought they were gendered names for the same concept

>the guy they constantly bring up >on the series they practically never do Channel took a momentary break from spamming Youtube Shorts to talk with Doug Walker while doodling. Doug seems like an okay guy.

>>1699404 For the past few years that has been the general consensus, he tends to just roll with whatever mockery heads his way, the complete opposite of Linkara.

>>1699404 >>1699444 Doug ended up being one of the few from Channel Awesome who didn't become a total faggot. Doug can laugh at himself and just wants to chill with his fanbase.

Are there any other channels out there like Warlockracy? His recent video of him pretending to play an imaginary fallout game is hilarious.

>>1699824 Do you want examples of e-celebs playing fake games? The only example I know is Civvie playing "Hellraiser", an "NES game made in the Wolfenstein 3D engine", as an April Fools' joke.

>>1699871 That's funny and I know Civvie. I'm wishing for more creative lets plays. Warlockracy generally discusses ideas in his videos and even some history that I find interesting.

>>1699444 Didn't know nu-Spongebob did a Nostalgia Critic parody. Haven't watched him in many many years, but Doug got a chuckle out of me with this one. >>1699583 >chill with his fanbase From the stories he's told, he's pretty chill with even the creepy weirdo fans.

>>1699404 >Played Castle Crashers with Tom Fulp >Now this So what are the chances Chris does something with Jontron?

>>1700149 He did that years ago already. They played random Newgrounds games.

>>1700329 I mean again.

>>1700493 it would be funny if they did exactly the same again but instead they play games that were made the day of the sandy hook shooting.

>>1699583 Channel Awesome's only worthy remnants are Doug himself, Brad, and Spoony Rob is a total fag.

>>1700149 I mean it's not that odd for Chris to do something with Fulp, being one of the big name Newgrounds alumni after all, doing something with Doug was the more out of the way happening.

>>1701970 Spoony hadn't trooned out?

>>1702356 He is returning Year of the Spoon Soon™

>>1701970 It's been a minute since I've seen anything he's made, but I remember Larry Bundy Jr. being fine. Also worth noting he referenced an Oneyplays bit in one of his videos a few years ago. He's one of the people I wouldn't be at all surprised to see as a guest on the next Slightly Artistic, which is coming out on September 3rd, per the Oneyplays Twatter.

>>1699824 HBomberGuy

>>1702356 He does a few let's plays with the main actor from Phantasmagoria 2. If he learned a bit more humility and got in contact with OneyPlays he might be able to get a Doctor Insano cameo in Smiling Friends.

>>1699824 Can you be a bit more specific? Channels that are similar in tone, or in content (covering eurojank), or specific games (Fallout/Wasteland), or that video in particular (a hypothetical game that doesn't exist)?

I wonder how Mauler is doing

>>1713660 He just did his 7th anniversary of EFAP with his furry friend. >>1713833 Amazing anon. but out of curiosity, how long did it take you to encode that video, and what are your specs?

>>1713833 >Even got almost 2MB to spare Holy fuck anon, you're a compression God

>>1713833 I'm impressed.

>>1713854 About 45min to an hour or so on a Ryzen 5 with Aviator. SVT-AV1-PSY compresses mostly still videos like this pretty well while still preserving quality on the lowest settings it seems.

>>1713660 Actually Mauler just released a preview, for his new video about Star Wars Outlaws. I am curious if he will be able to outdo the 20 hour video patriciantv did on Skyrim, just through sheer star wars autism. Speaking of pat, he is back to making streams about Fallout and that space game Bethesda made about the Starborn(seriously, I easily forget what that game is called), so more background noise for me. >>1713867 Glad to see the software got updated, on their Git they still have the 6.0 release, but on Flathub it's at version 7, weird. I tried encoding Mauler's video with these settings, and it took about as much as the video's length. Sadly it only reduced it from 17mb to 12mb. Is there something that I am missing?

>>1716707 Try reducing the audio bitrate to 24 first. If that doesn't work either then crank the CRF up to 60. Since it's already at the under 20 range and has a lot of movement I don't think you'll be able to gain that much. Try encoding a long (> 30 min) video to see if that's the case.