Part of the reason why I made the thread, was because I am having a problem with playing some Windows games from GoG on Linux. The games play fine, the problem is that when I close them, the CPU is still working as if the game was still playing. As in, it would go from the 1-5% when idle to 20% or >80% depending on game, even after the game is closed, but using Task Manager there is no process that is using that much of the CPU, it's as if the CPU is running for no reason at all. The only solutions seems to restart the computer, which I am not a fan of(also tried Logging off, but that didn't work). I am using PopOS! and for the GoG games tried both Heroic Game Engine and Lutris. Still the same problem, after I close the game, the CPU does not got back to idle. I tried searching this problem a bit on the net, but no luck. I was hoping someone else also had encountered this problem. Also not all games, seem to have this problem, the only ones that caused me this problem are Hitman Contracts and Trepang 2.

>>1661393 Does your task manager or htop/variant tell you what processes the CPU is working on?

>>1661400 The Task Manager shows me the tasks and how much of the CPU they are using, while the Gnome System Monitor shows me the processors. Here are 4 screenshots, first is about first 10 minutes of starting Trepang 2. That spike you see at the beginning, is when the game first started. The second pic, is after playing for a bit more, it seems that as time goes by the CPU is used more and more, even though there is only one process that uses 8% of the CPU, with the rest being below 1%, it is as if there is some sort of resource leak. Third pic, is after closing the game, the process CPPFPS_Win64_Sh is no longer running, but the CPU is still at almost 100% usage. Last pic is just from the Gnome System Monitor to see the CPU usage. Now unless I restart the PC, the CPU will be "stuck" like this, for at least several hours, maybe even more.

>>1661379 Isn't CachyOS better than bazzite?

>>1661527 Can you even compare both? Bazzite is an immutable distro and comes with shit pre-installed, it's quite perfect for newfags. While CachyOS is pretty neat I don't think there is much overlap in usecase...

>>1661458 that's probably not showing you all the processes if you run 'top' in a terminal it will show you all processes, there has to be a hanging process that isn't being killed

>>1661614 CachyOS comes with that shit too, although without the immutable part.

Something i have noticed with linux is that I am farm ore reliant on steam. If steam didn't exist neither would gaming on linux. GOG has a few games that have linux ports but its a fraction of their total catalog and GOG is already far smaller than steam. Kinda odd since Linux users pride themselves on being so independent and yet gaming on linux is almost entirely dependent on 1 company.

>>1662358 That is true, I won't deny it. Although I use Linux mainly because Windows and Android are shit on the desktop.

>>1662358 >I am farm ore reliant on steam >GOG has a few games that have linux ports

>>1662358 There are about 999 versions of compatibility layers that run on GOG games, or any other standalone games. Your problem.

>>1662358 you seem to forget that all steam did was throw money at proton, which is just wine with additional scripts to help automate setting up the environment for games to run linux users have been using wine to run games for a long, long time before valve ever gave a shit

>>1661637 I used the top command as you suggested. After playing Tepang 2 for some time, and closing it, I had 4 bash processes that did not close(pic 1). I used kill -9 <pid> to kill all 4 of them and it worked. I am not sure what the deal is with steamwebhelper, top says it's using almost 20% of the CPU(this is also before starting the game), but Task Manager and System Monitor say that the CPU is at less than 5% (pic 2). In this case, I am more likely to believe System Monitor and that the CPU isn't actually at 20% activity, because of steamwebhelper. Now it's much better to kill 4 processes, than having to restart the PC, though I wish I wouldn't have to do this, and I am not sure if it's because Proton or Lutris/Heroic Game Launcher or the game itself that is causing this. I can say that not all games have this issue, and while >buying the game on Steam would prove if it's the game or the launcher that is causing this, I am not a big fan of buying a game twice. With that said, thank you for your help and advice.

>>1662358 I don't even know how to run pirated game on proton.

Here's a nice tip, if the games you're running are old enough to not utilize all the cores on your system, you might want to know what the maximum number of cores the game can use and launch it with taskset -c <number of cores> <path to game>. Otherwise the system cpu scheduler will spread the game to all the cores and cause it to run with performance issues .

>>1663649 How old are we talking?

>installs linux for privacy, freedom, and security >installs Steam

>>1667395 The problem is that without (((Steam))), Loonix and gaming essentially become mutually exclusive.

>>1667395 >Posting on the internet >2025 >Privacy lol, Loonix is great because Microshaft is ass

>>1667414 .....that's supposed to be a bad thing? considering every single game is nonfree spyware

>>1663649 Defintely anything that was designed for a single core. I did this for the original Loki port of UT99 and it fixed the game from running at warp speed back to a resonable level without stuttering, still needed to cap the framerate since it can now run into the 1000's of frames on modern hardware. It's mostly to fix stuttering and network issues, since you can imagine the game's threads expecting to run at not only a fixed CPU speed, but also without the added inconsistent latency of the system trying to decide on-the-fly which CPU can best run code. For example, SupCom will desync and eventually crash around the 45-60 min mark into a game if you don't peg it to 2 to 4 cores. This is all made even worse by both Intel, with P and E-cores, and AMD with 3D Vcache on some of their cores, and a CPU scheduler that can't differentiate between core capabilities.

>>1667466 Get out of here Stallman.

>>1667616 I really ought to learn more about that stuff, I've been having pretty good luck with Lutris most of the time, but figuring out stuff from MyAbandonWare is a puzzle and a half.

>>1667414 If you're a dumb nigger who can't use Wine and its several front-ends? Yes.

>>1667623 why even use GNU/Linux if you hate freedom?

>>1667695 Because Windows is dogshit and there's no real alternative.

>>1667694 Wine was mostly dogshit before Proton, pretending otherwise is disingenuous

Sometimes games run at halfish speed till I close Steam and relaunch Steam then start the game again. Any idea what the issue is?

>>1667632 Also, older games really don't like the cpu frequency bouncing around since the introduction of p-states. If you can, set the cpu governor to a specific frequency, or one of the extremes of performance or powersave.

Copy past of another anon's instructions for installing and running GOG installer exe from the last thread because web searches refuse to show clean instructions for this. (start paste) >get lutris >top right corner: click on the [+] >"add locally installed gayme" Set up: <game info - name, runner (99.99% of the time "wine") <game options - create a prefix and ignore "executable" for now <save back to lutris main window >click tile of newly created game >next to "play" there should be a wine-glass icon >click arrow >pick "run exe inside wine prefix" >navigate to gog-installer.exe and run The installer will probably try to install within the faux-Windows folder of the wine prefix, but you can install it anywhere. >install compree >add .exe to "game options" >run That's it. Some games might complain about missing Visual C++ 20xxwhatever, try lutris' inbuilt winetricks (same icon/arrow as you used for the game installer) or just download the files from Microshart and run them inside the prefix. Done. (Under "runner options" you can, apart from the obvious selection of different wine versions, define DLL overrides for, say, mods and such.)

>>1667395 >>installs linux for privacy, freedom, and security >>installs Steam The way Steam conduct their Hardware Survey (very badly) makes me at ease they can't steal user data for shit.

Anyone has been able to use CCCaster/Concerto with Lutris? I wasn't able to get Concerto to look for a match so Im not sure if CCCaster is working.

who else gaming with dwm as your tiling window manager? just kidding, I spend more time tweaking and adding patches than actually playing games I actually had no problem playing games on dwm, but steam needs a systray for no good reason, systray patch works no problem as a gentoo user who has played way too much tf2, I haven't been able to play it since they released the 64bit update, nobody managing the source game git repos will address it, and myself and other users on different distros experiencing the issue are left holding our limp dicks in our hands I have to assume that when they updated tf2 to use the same version of VAC as cs:go (they were apparently more up to date because users reported my issue long before it appeared on tf2), that it cannot function properly when running within a chroot, which I would consider essential since source games have had so many exploits involving remote code execution, so VAC must be trying to do something that it simply can't do within a chroot, whether that be directly accessing some process or dbus session or what I have no idea I could try setting up a specific user for steam so it's not within a chroot but still isolated by less privileged account, which is much less secure but at least slightly more secure than running it as my normal user account

Can anyone tell me how improved nvidia drivers because nvidia-open? I have a laptop with intel+nvidia graphics and I want to know if I can switch to Linux.

>>1769205 >>1769205 >Can anyone tell me how improved nvidia drivers because nvidia-open? From what I read (AMD user, could be wrong), the new open kernel modules don't offer so much user-facing benefits, rather it's more for devs and such. There's a conspiracy theory that they only ever bothered making these open modules for the AI corporates and that could explain why there's virtually no difference after this change. The state of Novideo overall is as follows: Non-DX12 games perform pretty well, DX12 software sees %10-%30 less performance. They recently acknowledged the issues and said a potential fix is in the works, so the DX12 problem may be fixed soon trademark. Ray tracing continues to lag behind Windows performance as well, sounds like it's a more distant problem.

>>1768744 >can't They can do whatever they want, and the hardware survey is public facing data which is probably the only reason they ask permission. They very likely collect mountains of information for their internal analytics.

>>1771444 There's no change because the proprietary driver is the same thing as the open kernel modules except without GSP. Nvidia is probably gonna scap the "proprietary driver" completely because all their cards that are going to be supported in the future have GSP. So I don't see any reason why they'd care to keep that around. It's still the same nvidia driver it always was.

>>1769122 I remember a while back a friend and I got CCCaster working when I was on Linux Mint (wine) and him on Windows 10. I was the host player. It's also been 3 years and it just worked, so I don't know what to tell you.

>Heroic finally added native support for 32-bit applications About time.

>>1778670 Fucking finally

>>1667414 >>1667839 You're aware you an outright use proton without steam, right? There's even retard-proof options to do so like lutris.

Waydroid is amazing, bros. i've had it installed for a while now but never delved into it. This is retarded as hell but because my PS4 only friends don't have access to something like discord (ass service but thats another topic) for comms, I've been forced to instead figure out how to join their stupid PS Party thing. It doesn't have a PC app but it's available on Android, and that's where Waydroid comes in.

>>1662791 >linux users have been using wine to run games for a long, long time before valve ever gave a shit And it fucking sucked because nobody was throwing gobs of cash at it. t. ran steam on wine around 2009

>>1783197 >>1662791 The real MVP in all this is the one horny dev who single-handedly created DXVK to be able to play Nier Automata on Linux.

Is it possible to move the data one has on a Winblows machine to Linucks?

>>1784809 The short answer is yes so long as you don't format a partition during the Linux install, otherwise that data's likely gone. If you have 2 drives and nuke drive #1, anything that was on it is a memory, but drive #2 was untouched. If possible, transferring all the data you want to keep from the Windows drive to any other drive would do the trick.

How much would you anons be interested in a series of short tips on how to switch to Linux as frictionlessly as possible ? I've had the idea grow in the back of my mind while I was watching one of those youtube videos where poser youtubers pretend to know what they'd talking about, I thought, I can do way better than that if I cared myself. Another reason is I feel like I had the smoothest transition from winblows to Linux ever, and I think I know why, so I thought I could pass the knowledge so users have easier time in their own trials. Let me know if anyone cares.

>>1784958 I think it'll be a good idea as the platform grows since Distros are a bit hard for normalfags to navigate and you can gain a good amount of success from doing that.

>>1784958 Tips would definitely help newcomers, hell you could even make a short guide to distribute.

>>1784958 It would be good for someone (Me) coming back into Linux

>>1784968 >>1784977 Yeah I didn't mean make my own youtube videos. I don't have the free time nor the energy to carry out such a thing. I think I'll just write a few paragraphs here from time to time, that's the extent of what I think I'll do at the moment. >>1785033 >(Me) coming back into Linux Excellent. It'd be great to see more people who are interested in switching. Curious to see how many are thinking about it here, especially that Windows 10 is nearing its end-of-life, as I wouldn't want to write up essays when the only audience is existing Linux users.

>>1784958 Sounds like a neat idea. >poser youtubers pretend to know what they'd talking about Oh my goodness, I despise these people <Hai guise welcome to my first time Linux user guide <First you're gonna want to go to the Arch website Arch is great and all, but I would never recommend it to a tech illiterate Linux newbie who has never even used a command line before, and the reasons Arch is good are not things those people would even benefit from or care about. The only kinds of Windows users who should move straight to Arch are the ones how to use PowerShell. Despite this, those tech nerd focus distros are frequently pushed to newcomers by YTers.

>>1785553 My guy, I really doubt anyone has the ability to make arch look appealing to the lowest of low brow button clickers. Even if you use archinstall, the installation process looks vile compared to something much more appealing (to that demographic) like EndeavourOS or CachyOS. (which would be far far bigger mistake to recommend) Anyone who isn't ready for a lot of pain is gonna nope right out of the arch installer.

>>1784809 >Situation A: You take out the windows drive (drive A), install a new fresh drive drive B) with linux, then plug in drive A to get the data off. >Situation B: You partition a single drive and dual boot windows and linux off a single drive. Yes, but you would have to do a cold power off cycle to stop windows bullshittery from fucking with write permissions due to fast-boot. >Situation C: You are trying to move data from a computer that is currently turned on running windows to a linux one through either USB drives or network shit. I don't see why that wouldn't work, it will be a pain though.

>>1784958 For most people the process is fairly seamless because they only use their OS as a bootloader for jewtube and their social medias. Even their habit of collecting steam games they will never play is also seamless because I don't think steam bars you from buying stuff that wouldn't even run through proton. But yes, do that anyway, good faith discussion is always good.

>>1785553 >The only kinds of Windows users who should move straight to Arch are the ones how to use PowerShell. Speaking from personal experience, when dabbling with linux I first installed mint on a shitbox old laptop to watch jewtube on it then jumped straight into arch, and while it did take me almost 6 hours across 2 days, it was relatively painless. IMO it's just about not having troglodyte IQ, the arch install process is quite literally just a check of you being able to carefully follow basic instructions.

>>1784958 I think it's always a good idea to have technically competent people create guides or just a document of tips for new users. Shit, I've been daily driving Linux for two years now and I still check out guides that show up in my jewtube feed just for friends who are wanting to switch.

>>1786100 On paper this isn't needed or shouldn't be if stuff remained relatively stable. But honestly the nature of loonix is so unstable and everchanging that guides and tips kinda need to be updated constantly. Just look at the wayland/xorg situation for example.

>>1786100 I ended up doing this for my Mint installs and my Arch VM. The major hurdle is curating lists of programs from Windows to Linux or near equivalents to Windows exclusive programs.

>>1786194 I find it a bit ridiculous how it's always the first thing people ask, "how do I learn linux, where to start learning linux", as if it's the year 1978 and they need to learn BASIC to use the computer there really is no "learning linux", you install it which you should only have to do once, and then you update it, with if you use debian/ubuntu/mint then you've got the only functional gui for software management any other distribution you only need to learn the command for the package manager, but you don't need to be a software engineer to understand it, once all your regular software is installed it's like using any other operating system

>>1786194 >the nature of loonix is so unstable and everchanging that guides and tips kinda need to be updated constantly. A side effect of being a constantly evolving platform. I noticed this a while ago, but I always look forward for new development and updates from the Linux world, a contrast to the enshittified mess that is Windows 11 (and corporate software in general really). It's such a phenomenon how these shitty companies make you terrified of what they're going to ruin now when it's the other way around for something like Linux, where the only way is up. >>1786543 >The major hurdle is curating lists of programs from Windows to Linux or near equivalents to Windows exclusive programs. That's the first thing I'm going to cover. >>1786657 >I find it a bit ridiculous how it's always the first thing people ask, "how do I learn linux, where to start learning linux", as if it's the year 1978 and they need to learn BASIC to use the computer That's the single biggest challenge for people switching, the mentality. %90 of the difficulty of using Linux disappears the moment a person realizes other operating systems can exist. I shall write the Linux Tech Tips then, during toilet breaks then post here.

>>1783197 someone WAS throwing cash at the problem, but not for benevolent reasons. Your forgetting winex/cedega from the mid 2000's. Which, because they weren't contributing back to the base Codeweavers wine branch, set linux gaming back a decade.

>>1787126 >the mentality I agree. I put Linux Mint on my mom's laptop as it came with no OS pre-installed, and even though she doesn't know English, and can only do basic computer stuff, she didn't have problems using the laptop. I should mention that her needs were mostly to open an internet browser, copy and move files on her laptop, and view pictures and movies. If there was any software to be installed, or to configure the laptop to send video and audio output to the TV, then I would do it, but otherwise she was fine with it. It also helped that I presented it as an "easy OS", and not "hardcore hax0r OS". Now as a side-note, because I am sure people have heard how you have to use the command line to install software on Linux, for a lot of programs, and a lot of distros, you have a software manager, in which you can browse for software and install it, just with the click of a mouse(pic related). No command line needed. Plus if anons, just want to install vidya, well if you >buy them from Steam then Steam will do all the heavy lifting, if you get the from GoG, then you can use Gog Galaxy, Lutrix of Heroic Game Launcher, to do the install for you, again barely any command line needed. If you pirate them, then again, Lutris or Heroic. With that said, the command line is not hard, and it's mostly copy+paste some text you find on a website like the software webpage, or stack overflow.

>>1786657 >>1787126 I think "learning Linux" ends up just learning how to use the keyboard more often and maybe even neglecting the mouse. The GUI was (and still is) a mess to understand (and develop) compared to something like a tiling (or really a lightweight) window manager + terminal, at least for experienced users and system administrators. Most people today are used to the trackpad/mouse (or worse, a touchscreen) to navigate and manage their computer via icons and buttons, so the idea of having nearly everything done on a keyboard is harder than spelling or grammar. It could've been done with both Windows and macOS (and maybe Android), except that's hidden away because only developers and professionals do that. Do not kill the mouse entirely, though; creative software done strictly on the command line is extremely rare for a reason (and Wacom tablets already work fine, too). Also, wired KB+M gaming on Linux still "just werks" with no gamepad required.

>>1788096 >I think "learning Linux" ends up just learning how to use the keyboard more often and maybe even neglecting the mouse Not necessarily, you can still have a fairly convenient experience depending on the DE you choose. I'm on KDE and I don't really bother with the terminal much. Only on very slight occasions.

>>1788612 It was a pain for me since I had to do some unnecessary troubleshooting (from high-DPI to sleep mode problems), but that might've been making the grave mistake of recommending GNOME to a close relative. https://archive.is/hDdj0 They knew nothing about stuff like Wayland or X11 or even systemd. All they knew is searching on Google and using an iPhone.

>>1788096 I really disagree, a random mint install or whatever distro with KDE is basically as good as it gets for most normalfags that just use the computer as a bootloader for jewtube and kikebook. You will only run into issues with people that rely on the microjeet equivalent of google drive docs, some very niche gaming setups (particularly multi-monitor shit, through those issues can pop up even on windows) and "coyntent creetors" that sold their soul to adobe.

>>1789048 > (particularly multi-monitor shit, It's true. I have to dual boot for triple monitor gayman. Feels bad, man :(

>>1788693 >that article TGD I HATE GNOME

>>1788693 honestly wayland is going to result in a worse experience for anyone coming from windows because x11 already has everything a windows user might expect, whereas wayland requires a bunch of fucking around to find the right additional packages to install to get close to the expected functionality granted nobody should really notice the difference between systemd and any other init system, wayland just added more confusion to new users for no good reason

>>1788096 >>I think "learning Linux" ends up just learning how to use the keyboard more often and maybe even neglecting the mouse. Mostly true. But the important thing of UNIX-like's is learning that everything is a file, and more importantly, you can route command output directly into another command and do some really neat things you can't do on Windows.

>>1789669 >because x11 already has everything a windows user might expect The amount of missing features for Wayland are getting rapidly small: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Known_Significant_Issues Besides, pretty sure X11 can't do some gaming/modern video features like VRR and HDR etc

>>1791402 HDR definitely not (but hey, HDR is still a fucking mess on Windows too so whatever) but VRR works on X11. Assuming you have only one monitor. The instant you plug in another monitor VRR just doesn't work, well, that is if you are running both monitors out of the same GPU. Something with how X11 handles it, the output from one GPU is one big "screen" even with two monitors, even if they are the same model two monitors. And even if you just accept your 60Hz fate I noticed a lot of games just microstuttered. Makes playing fighting games painful. So in order to use multiple monitors and having my gaming monitor be high-refresh-rate VRR I bought a shitty $10 R7 240 for the side monitors. I would use Wayland but some games just don't fucking work and I don't want to spend the time to dive into finding out why, but they work if I use X11 and not Wayland.

>>1791402 There's x11libre in the works and seems pretty active. Dunno how fat they got with "gaming/modern video features" but you can probably ask them or give them a hand https://github.com/X11Libre

>>1791605 *how far they got

>>1791523 Thanks for the corrections, anon. >some games just don't fucking work Interested in what games are those. Never had a game flat out not work so I'm curious.

>>1791402 Depends on your definition of a feature. Wayland completely bricks entire pieces of software that simulate keypresses. Regular users that don't want to spend their afternoons figuring out how to write a bunch of ydotool scripts just end up fucked because for whatever reason no one has cared to develop GUI automation software for Linux, and the few dead projects that sort of work aren't ever going to be re-developed for wayland. These are all things that have had solutions on Windows for decades that work flawlessly.

>>1792029 >your definition of a feature. My definition is whatever my DE of choice (KDE) deems a big enough feature to have it in their list that I linked in my previous comment. I say this because I never needed to fiddle with this display server stuff at all since switching, and only hear about issues from other users online, so I don't have first hand experience to know how lacking wayland is. I think it helps my gpu is AMD.

>>1791985 Well it's less corrections and more my experience with trying to have a not-annoying VRR monitor for gaming on X11. There are many such little annoyances that I have to band-aid fix but I guess that is just Linux sometimes. As for games not running on Wayland, for me I could not get Tekken 8 to run for the life of me, nor Cities Skylines which is native Linux. But other people say they can run it fine so I am unsure really what the deal is. Also games I did run on Wayland for the short time I tried could not use Steam overlay or it's game recording feature. Again others say it works fine. But there are so many variables between different people's Linux installs that it is hard to pin it down.

Is wifi really just bad in Linux? While on wifi if I get disconnected on Limbus Company the retry connection message never appears...

>>1792811 Works on my machine. Then again, I'm using Fedora at work.

>>1792162 one thing I only recently learned of being an issue in wayland is applications having no memory of their screen position because >that's not our problem - wayland devs and also fullscreen applications not knowing what monitor to open on, again because >that's not our problem - wayland devs it seems like the major selling point of wayland, is that the wayland devs aren't responsible for implementing features and everything needs to be implemented as a "protocol" by everyone else, whether it be a way to automate/simulate input, tell any application what monitor is which so that there can be a "default monitor" in the first place, or telling an application where the hell on the monitor it was so it wont default to center if you change application size wayland devs have offloaded so much work onto other projects to reinvent things that were just built into x11 that I don't know why any of them were so quick to adopt it, is HDR really so prevalent now? >>1792811 I haven't had wireless problems for many years, at least none that weren't because of faulty hardware. The only other thing I could think of as to why wireless would have an issue is if it's a usb adapter and is affected by a power-save feature that puts usb devices to sleep after a while, it actually has caused issues with usb mice suddenly disconnecting with no apparent reason and some distros I think have disabled the feature by default because it caused more issues than it solved

>>1791523 >So in order to use multiple monitors and having my gaming monitor be high-refresh-rate VRR I bought a shitty $10 R7 240 for the side monitors. Wait, how did you get multi-GPUs to work at the same time? I thought you needed special hardware and driver config for that?

>>1792932 No you don't need anything special. I have two GPUs, one nvidia and one AMD and there's no problem having monitors on each of them. (although I use Wayland unlike that guy). Getting 3d games using Vulkan to actually work on both of them is a different story on the other hand. They work on the primary GPU, but on the other one.. not so much.

>>1792839 >>1792871 Fuck my life I guess, I can play just about anything no issue at all, deadlock gets some net jitter but runs like a dream, I have no idea why Limbus refuses to connect...

I had a setup that sounded really nice on VoiceMeeter, but that's a Windows-only software. How would I go about emulating what Voicemeeter did? My music sounds flat and distracts me from enjoying vidya otherwise.

>>1662358 valve throwing money at wine was really helpful. you're not really dependent on them anymore with stuff like umu though.

>update kde >virt-manager icon changed it some ugly nigger shit >can't find the original icon or even accurately remember what it was What the fuck is wrong with these retards? It should be illegal to randomly change software icons. This is some windows grade bullshit.

>>1796797 What's the new icon?

>>1796798 They just switched it from what I recall being something like the new VM button as a generic icon to there ugly as sin official software logo. I can probably find the original icon if I sit here sifting through them for awhile but they didn't fucking put the word virt in the file name for it so it will take me fucking forever.

>>1796803 Gotcha, no worries

>>1796805 I'm beyond worried fucker

>>1796806 I meant you finding the original file, not your opinion about the logo

>>1796803 < "old" icon in question: Anon going mental over a white circle. And ackshwally, the "new" VMM icon is the same old logo for the software. The "old" white background one is the odd one, idk where KDE got it from.

>>1796900 Ah, so barely any difference. Oh well.

>>1796803 >>1796900 I really do hate how any time developers want to update a logo or UI they decide sucking the color out of everything is better. Just between those 2 logos you have one with a vibrant V and even the grays POP because of the white background, switched to a dull red V with grays that will just blend in with any dark background reminds me of when gimp decided to make all the tool icons fucking grayscale and simple shapes that I still have a hard time figuring out which tool they are, same with krita, is it so much to ask for colorful actually recognizable icons instead of just flat gray minimalist shapes?

>>1661379 i play gothic 2 1 and many more games on linux it's buggy but werking

>>1795618 I started buying games on Steam again because Valve tremendously helped make gaming on Linux viable, so I was able to stop using Windows.

>>1797844 I continue to buy games off Steam because 1- they have great regional pricing, so games are usually half the US prices here which is a godsend. And 2- it's just a really great service to be honest, coming from the playstation store, this shit is generations ahead. Piracy is a service problem and all that. Them being so pro-open source/Linux was the icing on the cake. I was also able to stop using Windows largely due to their help.

>>1798170 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Emrs8lw6s It'll be a sad day when he goes. If he doesn't have a solid successor then we'll likely lose Linux support.

>>1798189 It's good to see him healthy. About the doomsday secneario where Steam goes to shit after he's gone, I really need to look for a place that just shares cracks and nothing else, something like that ought to exist, so I can still access my library without the inevitable bullshit from the new heads. I haven't pirated PC games in years and I remember the experience was more miserable than it really should've been back then. Good thing a lot of games I have on Steam already have zero DRM on them, including Steam's: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam

>>1798208 >cracks if you want repacks then there are plenty of sites, fitgirl being the most popular one

>>1798216 Fitgirl I know of. I remember the site being reliable with the downside of the waiting time for the game to unpack and whatever. Ideally though, I would like a website that offers only the crack .exe's, and not full game files, so I can just keep using my Steam game files with the crack added and carry on playing my bought games.

It's amazing that video piracy is an almost completely solved problem with stuff like Stremio but music/games don't really have anything like it.

>>1796900 No retard, I'm not talking about their logo. I'm talking about the task tray icon it defaulted to in KDE, which was just something akin to the new machine icon in the application. And I'm "going mental" over things changing unprompted on my computer any time I update. The icon is still there, it's probably in the icon list among thousands of others. But because I don't distinctly remember exactly what it looked like and because they didn't label it intuitively, it's just forever lost and I will be too lazy to find and change it to the original. I'm not complaining about some brand logo change fucktard, the icon was never their brand logo to begin with. Blow your brains out faggot.

>>1798208 >About the doomsday secneario where Steam goes to shit after he's gone, Steam is already shit and a sheckelstein tool with a "mr moneyberg can tell us to remove anything from the platform and we will instantly do it no questions asked" clause on their ToS now. Frankly the fuck are any of you fearing? >>1798228 The generic steam "crack" is piss easy to use anon, and it's still accessible through 3 minutes of basic googling.

>>1798228 Since mister faggot over there can't be arsed to even link it one of those "steam cracks", here you go instead: https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/ An offline steam emulator that just need a little bit of reading and setting up but will transform any of those steam only DRM games into something you can use anywhere. But he is quite right in that steam has gone to shit since a while ago and is on full sheckel jewing mode. But it is convenient and reliable. Gog still mog in 99.8% of cases because of the offline installers, thoughbeit. God knows I wouldn't have spent 2k+ hours in rimworld alone otherwise.

>>1769146 For me, it's Hyprland, the best tiling window manager. I've never used dwm, was thinking of giving it a shot

>>1804941 I wish the floating stuff got more development. I'd like to have a modern, small Wayland compositor that supports everything but I really do think the mouse beats the competition in the end.

>>1804710 Thanks for actually helpful message, anon. I've known about Goldberg for as long as I've known about Steam, just know read more into it and fully grasped how it works. I also just learned about Steamless, which seems to be a complimentary tool (?) If need, from what I gathered. Lastly, I just found out about [SPOILER]gamecopyworld dot com[/SPOILER] which does exactly what I asked for in my initial comment of a website that has only the cracks for Steam game files and not whole dowbloads. I'm interested to hear why exactly Steam has gone to shit in your opinion. Hopefully it's not a nothingburger like the little "ya don't own this" message they had to add recently.

>>1805093 Here is a gift for you, newfriend.

>>1805107 Many thanks, friend.

>>1663506 Try running the games with steam https://github.com/PhilipK/BoilR Or try some other launcher like bottles, faugus, winezgui, portproton.

>>1798243 It more complex to set up, but this comes close. https://github.com/AbdelrhmanNile/UnderTaker141

>>1798243 With music you can listen to almost any song on Youtube anyway, plus there is addblocker and youtube-dll. You can even make playlists as well. Another thing, is that unlike with TV streaming, 99% of all songs are on all music streaming platforms, so it doesn't matter if you are on Spotify or Apple Music, you still have the same selection, or at least that is what I was told. Assuming it is right, it means that you don't need to subscribe to multiple platforms, so it's akin to the golden age of TV streaming when Netflix had all the shows, and a lot of normalfags didn't pirate as much as before, because Netflix was overall a better service. Even with Stremio and the correct addons, I still have cases where I want to watch a more obscure movie and even if I do find it, it barely has seeders, so either I download it the old fashioned way, or hope it's on the Criterion Channel. An alternative reality would have been one, in which there are still 20+ TV streaming services, but all shows are on all platforms, so all Disney original content is on Netflix and HBO Max, same with Netflix and HBO original content being on Disney, but the reason why that model works on Spotify, and not Netflix, is that artists make most of their money from concerts not Spotify views, whereas with movies, it's just Netflix.

>>1805794 This is awesome, lmao. Thanks for sharing, anon.

I am getting pretty fucking sick of this shit it feels like 75% work mostly okay, but the other 25% shit the bed. The biggest problem I've recently encountered is that Fallout:New Vegas refuses to recognize any mouse input. I just wanna go back to windows at this point.

>>1813874 Pretty sure that game is a mess on every OS.

>>1813874 FNV (and I think FO3) handles mouse input weirdly. Look at the Fallout_default.ini and see if the mouse inputs are set correctly, it might be looking for a controller. If you have no idea what you're looking for, go to the [Controls] section and paste fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0 fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0 fForegroundMouseBase=0 fForegroundMouseMult=0 bBackground Mouse=1 // or edit this value to 1, it exists by default unlike the others) But yeah, welcome to Linux. People who act like it's at the it just werks state are delusional or have no idea what the average user experience is actually like.

>>1813874 It works on my Mint machine, using Lutris, I even installed mods on it.

if you're going to use proprietary spyware then why the fuck did you even switch to GNU/Linux?

>>1816266 Because it's a fundamentally better operating system that isn't actively malicious and trying to auto update with backdoors and adware 24/7.

Has anyone gotten Tropico 4 working on Wine? Apparently every Tropico game minus 6 was built on its own engine. Might explain why I couldn't run it through Wine, had to resort to installing it on Winblows instead. >>1789048 I got to agree with this Anon. I gave my desktop with Linux Mint Xfce to my dad and he uses it perfectly fine with mouse, I don't think he's ever used the terminal after 3 years of Linux.

>>1816390 >Tropico 4 working on Wine? Have you tried running it through umu/Proton ? Plain Wine isn't as good with games usually.

>>1768717 Too late to repent now >>1667395 Thank God the industry spiraled down to hell around gaymer g8, all I do is emulate consoles and play GOG releases of old games through Lutris geg

>>1667395 I can't say I know a single person who uses Linux for such asinine reasons.

>>1816390 Use Lutris or Bottles

>implying privacy must either mean living in a shack in the woods or installing a public camera inside your bedroom, and nothing in between. Every bit towards improving one's privacy counts, it's fine if one uses a certain invasive service if they absolutely have to. Improvements take time, and they accumulate. No one is expected to suddenly stop using all Google services overnight once they decide they want to have a little more privacy in their everyday lives.

I have a problem with an old VN, it's https://vndb.org/v418 , the deal with it is that it starts but a few lines into the story the game shut-downs completely. The ISO came with a NoDVD Patch, but I can't install it for some reason, but I don't think that's the problem anyway. Does anyone have any experience with old visual novels that could help me?

>>1825906 maybe it's copy protection?

>>1825906 With old VN's it's usually two things: 1. Specific versions of an old video codec and all the obscure DirectShow libraries like quartz and some version of Windows Media Player 2. Setting the locale in the wineprefix to JP and having a compatible font. Even if the game was properly ported, the .exe is still expecting some japanese to bootstrap itself.

>>1827643 >Setting the locale in the wineprefix to JP and having a compatible font If its a linux there's probably a couple of more hoops to do, both codec and locale related. Its sometimes not enough to have JP in wineprefix, you need to have JP locale in system itself, at least in a couple of bottles i knew JP fonts not always work in linux without system itself being JP.

I believe ProtonGE should deal with the missing codecs.

I'll have to give that steam emulator a shot this weekend, I wonder how it will work on Gentoo. In regards to installing Linux distros it looks like most of them automatically handle most of the work for you nowadays, and going for a 'harder' OS like Gentoo or Arch is because you want to know how that distro works and you want to see how our OS operates in detail instead of treating the OS as a 'background' for your usual tasks. Gentoo's installation is still a 'pain' in that you have to do specific steps to get it installed and configured but the instructions provided work with little issue. Hell you don't need to do the genkernel stuff and just install the whole bin, it works right out of the gate. I use KDE Plasma + dmw, dmw's desktop screens work very nicely for management but I notice that some games like Haydee don't display the graphics correctly (light shaders do not work right), but KDE doesn't have those gaming issues, and is more windows-like. Any other Gentoo users here?

>>1827643 It's probably a codec thing, because it reaches this line before it shut-downs

>>1829880 >RURUR That's a very funny thing for a Japanese studio to name a game, that's their way of mocking English. Imagine releasing a game called "CHING CHONG CHING CONG"

>>1830147 One of their largest cities is literally named a SLUR, why would China do this

Is there a practical way to selecticely block internet access to single-player games launched via Heroic? Opensnitch just cause them to hang for a long time and firejail only works when applied to whole Heroic Launcher.

>>1830879 Also technically the largest city in the world, but that gets messy depending on how you calculate it. At a certain point big cities are really several cities stuck together.

>>1831932 >By Wine standalone, I mean Wine that you install following the instructions from winehq.org or from your distribution, that is, Wine without intermediaries like Bottles or installed through Flatpak. This tip may not work for some games/programs, I'll explain why below: in a Terminal/Console (without root) run winecfg, in the window that will open go to the Libraries tab, and in New override for library select from the drop-down list wininet and click Add, then click Edit and change Load order to Disable, then click OK and then click OK again. That's it. Found this comment on leddit.

At this rate it will be Cachy or Mint for me. That Winboat thing looks promising too, as I'll be able to use CSP without too many problems.

>>1813874 >>1815410 Figured it out eventually, "360 controller" was set to 'on' by default.

>>1835256 All that work and it's the asinine controller input - Everytime I reinstall NV it does that to me too & I'm on Win10 the controller thing is hilarious I'm glad anon didn't break his game out of frustration because of that retarded feature lmao.

>>1835659 >All that work and it's the asinine controller input That's something I've been guilty of as well. The simplest problem occurs in a game and like anon here, I instantly get flustered and feel like it's Wine shenanigans and that I need to get tinkering etc. Then it ends up being the game itself is to blame, regardless of OS.

>>1667395 "Gamer" is term that serves as a testament to ones resolve to play as many fun games as possible. This is the singular best defined trait that distinguishes a gamer from a casual enjoyer. Admission that you don't use Steam at all means that you will play less games going forward. Truly, that would be a fate worse than games journalism.

>>1835882 >Admission that you don't use Steam at all means that you will play less games going forward. What are you, retarded? That's what piracy is for. Buying games =/= playing them, its been a longrunning meme (based in reality) that most users' Steam libraries are largely untouched.

how do I get wine to play midi files jesus christ

>>1836134 You need to actually have midi support on your system. It's never something that's set up for you.

>>1796797 This reminds me of all the seethe-fueled blogposts bored teen me used to read in 2005-10 on the library computer during recess, when Cannonical started systematically making the most retarded and frustrating decisions they could think of which resulted in many forks and even the creation of Linux Mint lol. Although what you describe is relatively rare in the open source world, you have to keep in mind that there is no central authority playing the role of quality control, and sometimes some egotistical niggers derail solid projects in ways more radical than a simple icon change. >>1817153 >and nothing in between I agree with you only on the condition that the inherent slippery-slope nature of all the things "in between" be kept at the center of discussion and every consideration related to digital life. The moderation meme is frequently used to deceive people. >>1817153 >No one is expected to suddenly stop using all Google services overnight I would even argue against this kind of hasty perfectionnism. It's like diets: they never work. It's all about having a healthy lifestyle, healthy habits that do not compromise one's security or privacy. Most of the time in my experience it only serves to exhaust the energy of willing improovers and fluster them with unrealistic goals.

>>1836268 I have ALSA installed and still wine can't recognize MIDI.

>>1837378 ALSA is the audio driver for sound cards. You need actual MIDI hardware for that to be adequate. Do you have hardware synthesizer, EMU10K1 for example?

>>1836134 I could be retarded here, but I think you need something like https://www.fluidsynth.org/ to do midi files.

>>1837421 You're not retarded. Fluidsynth is a software synthesizer which is what you'd need if you don't have hardware synth.

>>1836134 You need both a midi software synthesizer like fluidsynth and a MIDI sound font, depending on what kind of midi you're trying to emulate. such as "WeedsGM3.sf2". Which is what I use for my own doom midi emulation.

>>1835882 >ones resolve to play as many fun games as possible. What about people that fall into a genre or even just franchise hole. They can play a massive amount of serious non-casual games, or even just one game, but with little variety. >Admission that you don't use Steam at all means that you will play less games going forward. This is bait.

>>1838140 >What about people that fall into a genre or even just franchise hole. They can play a massive amount of serious non-casual games, or even just one game, but with little variety. Personally I think it's better to play a few hundred racing games, and rack up thousands of hours of playtime, than to have the same amount of hours on just DOTA 2 or LoL. At least with the former you will become very knowledgeable in an area of gaming, and could probably recommend some very good, obscure racing game, while with the later, you probably still won't be in Diamond league or whatever is called. >t. my friend has over 8000 hours in DOTA 2, but still played other games as well I want to believe that over half of that is just him having the game opened in the background

Going to try out the slowly growing meme of straight up using the tty/framebuffer or a ratpoison/stump-like before this year ends. Part of me would like to go full design autism of a Lisp-based multiplexing in lieu of tmux or some window managers in Guix or Alpine or Gentoo, but that's for when I actually know a shred of code.