>controller >VR headseat >console??? IT'S HAPPENING

Valve console leaked

Rumors they're also going to announce it alongside The Big 3

>>1928109 Got ninja’d, should I merge the threads?

>>1928120 Sure, thanks.

Logos also leaked, mods will merge the other thread

>>1928126 It is done

>>1928094 nani the fuck? controller looks good

Welcome back Gabecube

We've known all of these were in development but it's insane they're going to announce all three on the same day. Also the first time we've seen the legendary console

Some more leaks. The Frame is the headset. The console is the Steam Machine It's all come full circle.

The page is in pre-live, announcement imminent

>>1928188 Mind linking it?

IT'S LIVE IT'S LIVE IT'S LIVE >>1928191 https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller

>>1928193 Thanks, looks like a bitch to hold

Specs for the cube Wonder if it's going to be any cheaper than any desktop with a similar performance

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe They released an hour-long video but I'm not watching that The animations they've made are adorable

The Steam Machine's specs are kind of vague. No TFLOPS for either processing unit.

Launch video They fucking announced them at once in the same video This kinda sucks actually, why is it so low-key?

Vols rename the thread to "VALVE CONSOLE ANNOUNCED" and link it, because this thread is shockingly dead for this kind of announcement

Hard to believe that history is repeating itself, but at least the software is mostly refined. I still have that old controller, too.

Promo shots of the system

More cute animations

What's the ideal gaming device for me? I hate Steam, I hate Valve, I hate Half-Life, I hate the Steam Deck, I hate Gabe Newell, and I hate PC gaming in general. I dread the day they announce that damn Half-Life 3. So I'd like a gaming device that's anti-PC gaming and gives me the image of someone who hates Steam and hates Gabe Newell.

>>1928224 I think it has a better chance to succeed this time around as long as they don't fuck up the pricing

>>1928224 Valve had the right idea a decade in advance, they just didn't have the expertise. They had to do it themselves. The Steam Deck proved to them they could actually do this and have them the experience. It helps Xbox is bowing out. Actually that's probably a HUGE reason behind this, SEGA left a space for Xbox and now they're doing the same for Valve.

So people noticed some uhh hints in the trailer

>>1928236 HAPENINGA TIEMU

Another possible hint. A censored H- with "SOON"

>>1928236 >>1928242 They're actually fucking doing it. Valve console with Half-Life 3 launch title. It's launching Q1, it's probably announced within months if not WEEKS TGA 2025

>>1928224 The reason the original failed is that they tried to ignore hardware speccing and delegate it to hypothetical third party manufacturers, who predictably failed to do anything worthwhile. This is them stepping in to do it themselves so it shouldn't stumble like the initial concept did.

>>1928244 What's gonna be the innovative aspect about the third game, software wise? A old but stable engine? Moar physics?

>>1928204 >DisplayPort 1.4 instead of 2.1 >HDMI >two tiers of RAM >Bluetooth 5.3 instead of 6.1 >USB 3 (and 2.0) instead of USB 4, which has existed for six years now >Wi-Fi 6E on this thing but Wi-Fi 7 on the headset Fucking why.

>>1928260 Moar physics, according to the string leaks. Read the Miro board https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVINqBTwM=/

>>1928267 >HDMI 2.0 instead of 2.2 Fuck, forgot to fill it in.

A bunch of tech YouTubers are putting out videos from when they went to Valve. Some of them are showing games that can't be ID'd. Here's a cap, this looks like the opening to Portal, but it's too HD. It's not RTX because that's not what the models look like. Valve leakers aren't sure what it is.

>>1928214 Hate how quirky chungus this felt, but that's their new marketing head's thing.

>>1928214 Will they cheap out on the wifi antenna this time? >>1928272 Fallout 5; you can see Bethesda's logo right on the ceiling.

>>1928204 a steam deck-like cpu with more power to work with and a laptop version of the rx 7600 (desktop one has 32 cores) with more power, will most likely be better price to performance than a custom build if they write proper drivers for it

The controller in action. She's a big girl.

I wish I used VR more to be excited about the Frame. As-is, I can't justify what will likely be a $1,000+ piece of hardware when I have a Quest 3 that works fine and I barely use. The controller looks neat though - I'll probably pick one up on sale. Still have my OG Steam Controller

>>1928269 I'm pretty sure the HDMI thing is because of some bullshit licensing thing preventing Linux systems from using newer HDMI standards. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/hdmi-forum-to-amd-no-you-cant-make-an-open-source-hdmi-2-1-driver/

>>1928290 What would the console/controller-tan look like? Four boobs? Trackpad abs? TMR nipples?

>>1928305 I hate that tan and that artist's work desu

>>1928229 Kill yourself consolefag.

>>1928308 It's just a shitty "thicc" femboy OC, it got popular because the artist is on cuck/v/ and they love "draw a woman and call it a boy" trash. Valve created a better Deck-tan themselves.

>>1928117 I call bullshit

>>1928327 I do not worship false gods and I do not bow down to false lords.

>>1928290 4U

>>1928335 Yet you do.

>>1928094 Controller looks like ass. No comment on the VR/console shit though. I really don't care about either one. >>1928229 The options are awful anon. Sexbox, jewtendo, and the gaystation all fucking suck.

>>1928338 xbox is dead anon and soon so will be playstation hopefully

>>1928338 I prefer consoles to using a PC for gaming. In fact, I much prefer playing on a smartphone to using that Steam crap.

Just want to share something I don't think many people are aware of is that FSR4 is supported on RDNA3 GPUs on Mesa.

>>1928094 >Mini PC STEAM Gaben still hasn't deem my region being worthy of selling a Deck and I don't wan

>>1928360 Ofcourse because you don't like to play games you like to watch them like the pleb that you nigger. Go back to your ghetto where you belong.

>>1928094 >Mini PC STEAM Gaben still hasn't deem my region being worthy of selling a Deck and I wouldn't want to get assfucked by a reseller.

>>1928366 I'd rather play things like Candy Crush, Angry Birds, or even a generic gacha game than turn into a sheep for an idiot like Game Newell. In fact, I'd even prefer to be a lapdog for Google, Apple, or even chatgpt than a disgusting PC gamer.

>>1928361 is fsr that one for interpolating frames or resolution scaling? I cant keep up with all of the neural shit >>1928367 Much closer to a laptop in a pc case considering all of the hardware is laptop spec rather than itx

>>1928374 It's apparently 5-7x the Deck's performance, so if it's a laptop it's a gaming one.

>>1928374 The interpolating thing is usually called Frame Generation.

>>1928381 At this point bait has become reality.

>>1928373 >In fact, I'd even prefer to be a lapdog for Google, Apple, or even chatgpt than a disgusting PC gamer. Until this point you were just being obtuse but this statement renders you retarded enough to require 24/7 care by a medical professional.

>>1928381 >>1928385 Stop derailing the thread by arguing with dumb bait

>>1928376 yea, z1e with 2 cores lasered off + rx 7600s with more juice basically >>1928377 alright

Controller has a 35 hour battery life according to tech reviewers. >>1928374 It's apparently 5-7x the Deck's performance, so if it's a laptop it's a gaming one.

>double posted My bad

Controller has a 35 hour battery life according to tech reviewers.

>>1928225 >Woodgrain accents optional on your electronics I will now buy your console.

>>1928401 The front panel is swappable, so you can put whatever you want on it. I wish it launched with the wood because that would be very unique.

Looking deeper into the Frame, I like that it'll be able to run Steam games natively through the headset since I don't have 6ghz for wireless streaming. And apparently you can load Android APKs onto it pretty easily, so it should be good for pirating a-la the Quest.

Nothing about the price, huh. This is going to cost a fucking premium and will very probably floppity flop, The controller looks bulky as fuck and not the nicest to use but the extra buttons are nice.

>>1928410 Current rumors. VR headset is 1200. Console is 1000.

>>1928414 Source ? The GabeCube especially feels like a good bunch of the specs are cut down, presumably to get it down to a more reasonable price.

>>1928236 >>1928242 I wouldn't be surprised if this was just them poking fun at people desperate for anything regarding HL3 by hiding little teases in the trailer that only really observant eyes would notice. I'll only believe it when I see it. Even if this is really teasing a new Half-Life game and not a joke, it could be a entirely different game from HL3/EP3 like Alyx was.

>>1928272 It was identified. It's Portal 2 mod Enigma Protocol.

I wonder how much it will cost and if this means they're ready to roll out SteamOS as a full distro for PCs.

>>1928447 >if this means they're ready to roll out SteamOS as a full distro for PCs. Will never happen, anon. Don't listen to the youtube trolls.

Phil Spencer publicly eating shit with a smile again

>>1928094 >Valve made a console. What the fuck. but in all seriousness, i hope the influx of new users/consolefags means that valve/other devs pick up the slack for proton compatablity, as well as well known emulators that don't have "offical" appimgs. Hopefully its within the $170 to $225 price given its specs. What i'm more interested in is what this means for Playstation and Nintendo, seeing as that valve has hardware with a potentially better price point AND being able to emulate their older games. Time will tell if this becomes a massive flop, or if valve gets it footing in the "console space".

>>1928428 No actual source sadly, it's speculation from Valve leakers. >>1928458 There are a ton of high-level industry reactions to this thing. It was definitely noticed.

>>1928456 Isn't that what the Valve Machine literally is here, though?

Oh my god Mark or anybody else on the team, could you rename the OP already? For starters it was already announced. And secondly, fuck the Frame, VR shit is least interesting part about this CONSOLE announcement.

>>1928469 >VR shit is least interesting part about this CONSOLE announcement Isnt the Steam Machine basically going to be a stronger version of a docked Steam Deck? I feel the new VR hardware has more interesting shit going on even if it probably won't sell nearly as much

>>1928414 >Console is 1000 So I see they have no intent of really entering the console race then.

>>1928475 I don't mean to disrespect VR, but Valve has been in that space for a long time already. This device is a huge development. There's a lot of unknowns with the Steam Machine, so there's very little to say for sure about its specs. It's apparently significantly more powerful than the Deck.

>>1928466 Supporting one or two static systems is one thing. Publishing a whole OS to be used by all kinds of people with all kinds of setups is something else entirely. Either learn Linux normally or just give it up.

>>1928482 If the intent is to onboard consolefags to PC gaming, $1000 for an entire system is a significantly lower barrier to entry than $800+ for a mid-tier GPU.

Who do you dick first?

>>1928493 I'm already on Gentoo. I meant for the normalfags.

Thread theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sa2R-PM0Uk >>1928466 Not really, right now SteamOS only supports the Stream Deck and the Lenovo Legion, and I guess the steam machine now. If they were to make it a full distro they would need to support a far wider selection of hardware and maintain it for the forceable future. The Steam Machine is a closed system unlike a regular PC so they know exactly what's inside it.

What kind of granny would use VR, or really anything from Steam?

>>1928484 >I don't mean to disrespect VR Oh you probably should. I feel like VR has been on it's deathbed for years - despite enjoying the idea of it, I only ever use my headset to play Pong Pong on rare occasion. Maybe I should play more often, but after working all day it's easier to just vidya in a chair, which is the biggest fault of VR as a concept. I agree that the Steam Machine is more interesting from an industry-wide perspective, since this is Valve pushing into the console space in a way that seems much more serious than when they tried back in 2015. If the rumors about the next gen Playstation and Xbox generations being far more expensive turn out to be true, I could easily see Steam Machines making a sizable dent in their userbase.

>>1928447 Jesus Christ, just use CachyOS with KDE Plasma. It's literally the same thing as SteamOS.

>>1928461 I wouldn't exactly expect this thing to take off in the mass market, considering that Valve doesn't tend to really sell these devices outside of Steam. If they were serious about mass market, you'd likely see more overtures towards putting them on brick and mortar store shelves. Also, if they were intending on going up against Sony and Microsoft head to head in the console space - the thing would have much better specs and likely wouldn't have released until mid-2027 or so in order to fit into the PS6/Magnus expected launch windows. I think Valve is far more interested in trying to set a new industry standard, and then letting OEMs do the heavy lifting of trying to keep up with the bleeding edge of hardware. The real big news out of all of this is FEX, the translation layer that does for ARM/x86 what Proton did for Windows/Linux - allowing native x86 to run on ARM, and apparently well enough that it even works on highly-demanding VR titles. >>1928458 Phil is probably breathing a sigh of relief. The Steam Machine won't be direct competition to the Xbox Magnus - and the Steam Controller and Steam Frame will work on the next generation Xbox if it really is just a Windows PC with a console front-end like Steam Deck. Nadella's probably still shitting himself though, because it's all just one further encroachment onto Window's OS monopoly.

>>1928466 pre-built, nvidia is too jewish for general hardware support unfortunetly. But, hopefully this forces them in somewhat to change their ways.

>>1928539 Agreed

>>1928414 >1k I doubt it, otherwise itll be a worthless entry - steam decks selling point was the low price and good quality in the sea of overpriced chinesium umpcs >>1928466 It only officially supports specific hardware when general systems should run on a wide spectrum of parts >>1928501 You can get something equivalent to the gabecube below the 4 digit threshold and even exceed its performance for less than a thousand, in fact gpus on par with that chip valve showcased cost less than 200 bucks now

>>1928539 Probably not for those SoCs, especially with that custom Tegra chip for the Switch. A nice thing about the old Steam Machine and likely this new Steam Machine is that running custom software shouldn't be a pain to manage if you don't like SteamOS.

>>1928551 Saved

>>1928094 that's gotta be the worst controller ever made how are you going to use the thumbsticks without your palm hitting the capacitive panels?

>>1928604 HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE DUKE 2

>>1928604 >without your palm hitting the capacitive panels? your palm is behind the grip, are you retarded anon?

>>1928414 Digital Foundry is suggesting a $399-499 price for the console itself, based on hardware specs which sit somewhere between Xbox Series S and PS5 performance. If it's much above that, you're basically just paying for nothing aside from the Valve brand name.

>>1928611 the part of your palm right under your thumb, retard

>>1928414 On GN a valve engineer apparently said "no more expensive than an index" so probably $700-900

>>1928621 >No more expensive than an Index The "Index" is only $500. It's the baystations and controllers that pushed the price up to $1,000. But you don't have the baystation this time, and the headset seems to be significantly cut-down than where the competitors like Pimax & BSB2 are. So yeah, $700 with the controllers seems fair, and if the console is $499 - you're looking at about $1,200 for a total system setup w/ VR. That's not bad for entry level.

>>1928630 Shit, I fucking hope your right. I want meta to burn.

>the router >the grill >the tray >now the minifridge we can finally watch the game out in the yard

>alright boys we need to sell a linux machine to people, what should the ads be like to appeal to our target demographic? >

Alright gotta rant here for a bit The Steam Machine Is DEAD E A D ON ARRIVAL As others have pointed out, this is just the same shit that Valve tried years ago with the first lineup of Steam "Machines". It will fail for the same reason as those did. It might not fail quite as poorly, but it will still be a commercial failure that Valve will take the hit for. Valve wanted to enter the console market to steal Sony and Microsoft's lunch, but they are doing it in the entirely wrong way. The simplest way I can sum it up is never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Sony and Microsoft are making mistakes. They have zero first party support, zero real reasons to buy their consoles, assuming they're even continuing to take part in the market. Their consoles are overpriced and digital-only, require online subscriptions, and are all-around just useless. Why would Valve want to enter the console market? It's already on its way out. Valve could have won this shit simply by doing nothing but improving the Steam Deck and their VR tech (though I personally believe the VR fad came and went, especially after Alyx turned out to be a disappointment). Is the moment that Microsoft and Sony fails right now? No, unfortunately it is still not due to collapse entirely for another few years at this rate. But the idea is that it will collapse. Right now, no big time Sony or Microsoft fans are going to buy a Steam Machine. What benefits does PC gaming have for the normalfag consumer? Being an all-in-one. You can play games, do work, chat with friends (discord, teamspeak, et al) and browse the internet. You're not gonna be able to do that on a Steam Machine. Your only use for it is maybe so that people in the house can play games on there while someone is using the computer - but these aren't the days of one computer per household and having to wait while mom's on the landline phone for the dial-up internet to come back. Every bedroom is going to have a computer in it, chances are. If some nigger says they want to play a game that's available on Steam/PC, they're going to get a pre-made PC assuming they don't already have one that wasn't stolen and you know what 50% of that experience for that normalnigger is going to be? Getting on discord and chatting while playing a game. Is the Steam Machine going to have discord interoperability? No, it'll be that shitty Steam clone that Valve tried pushing to replace discord. Discord is too locked-in to the PC 'experience' for users to switch to something that has less functionality and less users - whatever the fuck Valve built as a replacement. The Steam Deck was a good compromise, an evolutionary turn. In all but sales, the Steam Deck ate Nintendo's lunch. Mobility is key PLUS it had the option to deck it up anyways and play it like a typical console. Why is Valve going backwards? Is it to make a more affordable console? A more powerful one? We've seen the stats, it doesn't appear to be that stellar. The only possible way Valve is going to sell anything to cut EVEN with this piece of shit cube is by making it outrageously cheap on release, and I mean it has to be cheaper than a new LCD Steam Deck. $300 at most. Any amount greater than that, and this'll be the OUYA 2 Electric Boogaloo (also shaped like a cube, funnily enough). Even with a good price, it still isn't going to convince most console-primary normalfags. Valve's only market here are diehard Valve fans who probably already own a Steam Deck, a gaming PC, and probably the VR headset. As of writing this, Valve does not have a launch title to convince people to buy the console with. They released Half Life: Alyx to convince people to buy the VR headset, now Valve is pretty much forced to do something like that as their spoonful of sugar to help make the unnecessary console go down. Sony and Microsoft fans who already own an Xbox or PS5 are not going to sell their consoles for this otherwise. That's why I said that what Valve SHOULD have done is wait just a few short years because PC doesn't have to do ANYTHING to win the console war eventually. There is no upper limit to PC gaming in the same way that there is for console gaming. Good on valve for continuing to develop SteamOS which is a good product and should be advanced, but not like this. This machine is just a fuckin' waste.

>>1928653 The Steam Machines were reliant on third party licensing This is no longer the case, I doubt there's a market for this shit though.

>>1928512 Just another one of those things the PR people like to use for promotion material. >>1928652 >tranny and a fat dyke Ideal gayming couple for the western vidya industry.

>>1928653 >What benefits does PC gaming have for the normalfag consumer? Being an all-in-one. You can play games, do work, chat with friends (discord, teamspeak, et al) and browse the internet. You're not gonna be able to do that on a Steam Machine. Yes, you are. It's a PC. They're explicitly marketing it by saying you can run whatever you want on it. You can already do that stuff on the Deck, even.

>>1928652 ANNOUNCING THE STEAM PROGRAMMING SOCKS

>>1928677 Oh. Well, I did not realize that. Maybe that will apply to other consumers as well, like how a lot of people assumed the Wii-U was just another Wii release. In that case, the Steam Machine may have a spot in the market to succeed. SteamOS just needs to be fully ready when it releases to replace Windows. That's my only concern. Windows 11 being the 'standard' now is going to make a lot of people resentful of Windows and eager to change to Linux, but the prevailing notion has always been that Linux operating systems are confusing as hell to compile for and have a very high barrier of entry. If SteamOS can bridge that gap, then it has already won the console war AND the OS war.

>>1928653 Wasn't the whole point Valve started down this route, was to flip off Microshit for constantly throttling them so that people would move over to their gaming site instead? If they can put in an actual fucking setting so that you can make it launch in desktop mode instead of gaming mode (if they're doing the same shit as Steam Deck) Also hope this thing with a better way to take screen shots.

>>1928653 >As others have pointed out, this is just the same shit that Valve tried years ago with the first lineup of Steam "Machines". But it is different, before it was separate companies using steams name for marketing their itx boxes meanwhile now its a beefed up steam deck with its own custom spice of arch >What benefits does PC gaming have for the normalfag consumer? Being an all-in-one. You can play games, do work, chat with friends (discord, teamspeak, et al) and browse the internet. You're not gonna be able to do that on a Steam Machine. <You're not gonna be able to do that on a Steam Machine. You just pulled this out of your ass, yidcord runs on linux >The only possible way Valve is going to sell anything to cut EVEN with this piece of shit cube is by making it outrageously cheap on release This is correct, nobody wants an overpriced prebuilt with hardware from a past generation >>1928652 Looks like we found valves game verification and approval team LOL

>>1928677 To further strengthen this anon's comment. They even showed that you could code on the console, so you can do work on it. Furthemore, stuff like Discord, Netflix, Browsing the web, can be done even on consoles, I think even the 360 had Netflix. The only thing it would really lack, are Office and Photoshop, as you would have to use the FOSS alternatives. That and all sorts of random software used in all sorts of industries, that were only built for Windows, like say CANoe or Enterprise Architect, but for that, business would just but some DELL tower PCs or whatever. Plus, I doubt there would be anything stopping people from installing Windows 7 Windows 10 Windows 11 on it if they really wanted, as you can already do that on a Deck.

>y'all Campo Santo raped this company dead, holy shit

>>1928652 Skrillex? I thought he was dead.

Whelp the GG spergs are out, time to let the thread reach its conclusion with culture war autists seething over nothing. You can probably unsticky this now Mark. I think the console reveal was underwhelming, it sounds underpowered and all reports suggest it will cost more than a PS5. The fact they're not putting out hardware specs or pricing is a bad sign. I don't care about VR. The controller looks alright. The big takeaway is Valve's return to productivity. Randomly announcing a whole hardware ecosystem on a Wednesday evening is a very Valve thing to do, and lends credence to the Half-Life 3 rumors. Still not expecting it this month, but I'm starting to believe it'll be within the next 90 days.

>>1928709 Office has been an online service for years now, it's hardly a point anymore.

<<1928714 I don't think any of those people even work there anymore. That's just Valve comms lead Kaci Aitchison, she's the kind of person to unironically say "folx". As somebody said earlier she's a Quirk Chungus.

>>1928709 I was wrong, then. I'm fine admitting it. I still have to echo >>1928705's sentiments that it does have the disadvantage of being essentially the console version of a PC in that the specs are locked down and likely can't be changed by just any amateur hobbyist. The price for this thing has to be lower than $400 at most or else it will be forgotten. I will switch my primary OS on my home computer to SteamOS when it releases, though.

I fail to see why so many anons are directly calling this a console and are comparing it to a PS5 especially its price. Valve calls this a gaming PC and not a console. This is supposed to be the best of both worlds of being as convenient as a console, yet as powerful and versatile as a full fledged PC. Additionally, a lot of people seem to suddenly forget the PS5 is a garbage money sinkhole. With this Steam Machine, you won't have to pay monthly subscriptions to play online games, you can buy games tramendeously cheaper than the PS5, you have access to literally all video games in history minus whatever Sony hasn't ported from the PS5 yet, and you can mod, emulate and pirate as you please. Even if the Steam Machine comes out to be closer to the more realistic $700 price point, it's still a way better deal than the sorry excuse of a console called the PS5. I'm personally most disappointed with the 8gb vram, everything else including the design and the new controller look spectacular.

>>1928734 Where do you think we are?

>>1928757 >I fail to see why so many anons are directly calling this a console and are comparing it to a PS5 especially its price Probably because of its specs, it's a little under powered for a traditional PC

>>1928734 Go back faggot

>>1928751 >the specs are locked down and likely can't be changed by just any amateur hobbyist. From the looks of it the ssd is easiest to swap with ram being close second, rest most likely soldered so better learn microsoldering

>>1928267 >why Because faggots will eat up anything Valve shits out. The same reason you have retardeds waiting for "desktop" SteamOS as the perfect universally recommendable Linux distro despite SteamOS always just being a clunky generic immutable arch distro that people fix with a bunch of flatpak jank.

>>1928757 Niggercattle see an SFF PC and their brains automatically think console, just the nature of the beast. Also marketing jargon.

I'd buy the VR as a "portable screen" solution, but the fact that it would cost over a thousand dollars is absurd. I already played most VR games and they're utter trash, and the only remaining usage was VR Chat but anyone who wants to stay upright looking at itself in the mirror is a severely narcissistic autist self, so I sold my quest 2. I wonder if they'd make it so the optimized resolution works even for games running in native desktop mode, could you then play at higher resolutions and refresh rates than you could at your normal screen?

>>1928734 >The fact they're not putting out hardware specs They did though, retard.

>>1928094 >underpowered >fat body like target consumer VR Bros, looks like we are going to be stuck with meme and eroge games forever aren't we.

>>1928798 >think I like has soul and thing I don't doesn't Gotta leave a good sticky to bring out the template throwaway cuckchan posts

>>1928803 >top boards >/interracial/ - Interracial >/2dblacked/ - Blacked Hentai/Toons Sorry to inform you, but you guys are the cucks.

>>1928812 >proceeds to browse /b/, /gif/ and /trash/

>>1928241 Taimu you stupid mong

>>1928414 massive flop incoming if true and supremely dumb because this would kill the playstation in the current climate if it hits $50 dollars less than it

>>1928812 >17th board <top Your LLM's training data is a bit outdated.

>>1928652 You know, with all the faggotry in computer tech and Linux this might actually be an accurate representation. There is something about being good at computers that also biases people towards deviancy. A while ago I read some blog post out there that was hypothesizing that schizophrenia might be the human brain at the edge. The idea being that human intelligence has reached some sort of local maximum with the tradeoff being that we are tethering at the edge of madness. One slight push and our fragile minds break. The author was comparing it to how race horses have been bread for peak athletic performance, but the price they pay for it is that their bones are much more slender and fragile, they break more easily than those of wild horses and when they break it's fatal.

>>1928845 Just romanticizing mental illness because we don't notice the quiet highly intelligent guys that get things done. Most high IQ software developer's are incredibly mundane individuals that make millions and just shut the fuck up living normal lives.

>>1928652 Is that a trans flag steam controller?

>>1928206 >The animations they've made are hideous and make you want to bludgeon a puppy to death. Fixed.

this is just a move to increase steamOS/linoox market share and im fine with that

>>1928864 >(You) >>1928866 It's better than using Android or iOS like Apple and Google are doing. I hope someone makes a Linux mobile phone tbh

>>1928406 Reminds me of how you could do this with the New 3ds... If you lived in Japan or imported one from there. Why would n*ntendopes region-lock such a great idea?

>>1928868 no one would make essentials like maps banking or medicals for linoox so unless you live off the land in the forest with your solar powered AI wife you vill use ze spyware phone OS

>>1928874 Doesn't maps already maps for loonix? As for banking apps, how much would it cost to make an extremely thin android device that's about 4 inches tall, super thin and acts purely as a wallet?

>>1928204 >Not an APU >8GB of GDDR6 in 2026 AMD was looking to dump their unsold inventory of Radeon GPUs and Valve said yes. Unless this thing ends up being extremely cheap, you're better off waiting another year for next-gen consoles to level the hardware market first.

>>1928893 If you call it a console they'll be used to 30fps and all the stutters on their 4K TV's.

>>1928893 Putting an apu in this would either make it way too slow and too expensive, even the top of the line igpus are shit compared to dedicated cards from pre rtx era with the radeon 8060s getting its shit kicked in by a 1080ti while costing a fraction even when it was new and its price was inflated by cryptokikes but yeah amd definitely had a stockpile of mobile cards since they cant sell any of them

I don't see this being talked about enough, the Steam Frame running games on ARM that weren't built for it. We're talking Windows, x86_64 and DirectX translated to Linux, ARM and Vulkan, all with near no degradation in the experience as demonstrated in the most extreme scenario of a high speed device like a VR headset. A bonus is the Android compatibility with probably Waydroid too. Valve is comfortably in the lead of getting ARM gaming viable. Microsoft and other industry leaders are so behind its not even funny.

>>1928941 That was definitely the most interesting part by far. Turning random ARM computers into fully functional systems that can translate x86 programs is huge.

>>1928866 idk if it's gonna move shit if that's the promotional material the name sounds like it's some kind of modular PC that can be upgraded/expanded by buying prebuilt blades that just slide in and then "it just works(tm)" but it's actually just a shitbox it's cool that it's small, I guess, but why would I want a PC/Console thing to be smaller than a fucking Steam Deck at the cost of performance? How is this any better than just buying a laptop exactly?

>>1928953 It will obviously perform better than any laptop considering the cooling capacity of simply being a box. But there is no reason to buy this over any other small form factor PC besides Valve's marketing and wanting their support for a prebuilt solution. Every other small form factor PC will have more modularity, expandability, and very likely be significantly more cost effective. But the steam deck had the exact same problems of a ridiculous footprint and being inferior to a laptop in every way and it still sold boatloads because people didn't want to pack an 8bitdo controller or something.

>>1928951 Is this universal, or does the OS need to be tweaked for specific games? For instance if I pick up an old Windows 98 PC game, will I be able to run that natively?

>>1928941 Yeah, the software side of the Steam Frame is far more interesting to me than the hardware

>>1928996 https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX

>>1928508 Stretch out the left side of the VR headset (in that image) and it already looks like a cock and balls. It's going to be doing the dicking, anon.

>>1928878 > how much would it cost to make an extremely thin android device that's about 4 inches tall, super thin and acts purely as a wallet? Anon, you're describing the device that will be handed out for free to every nonwhite when the global digital currency is announced and all cash is made illegal.

>>1929018 Yes, I am.

One thing I'm curious about, is how console gamers will react to an unrestricted system? Piracy will be trivial, the online isn't paid, you can map controls, and you can boot any software you want including emulators. A game isn't running well? Just lower the settings. When the Steam Deck launched I remember a lot of handheld gamers said it was difficult to go back to the Switch with how open the Deck was, it could accommodate whatever autism they had. I wonder if the Steam Machine will be the same for Xbox/PlayStation gamers. I especially see Xbox gamers going for this because it'll support Game Pass.

That was the wrong fucking file

>>1929026 >>1929028 No it wasn't

>>1929028 Good taste, anon.

>>1929026 >>1929028

>>1929026 If this does become popular with the general target audience console gamer I don't expect that they would do much with it if anything at all, at most mucking with the settings There are reasons for the console gamer to not do the things we do with our PCs outside of "I don't know how" and "I can't do it" >>1929028 >woops haha i just dropped my massive stash of pokemon porn haha hope you didn't get to see that

Finally. Steam Machine 2 >>1928866 Basically this. And if it's priced as competitively as the deck is it could become the default pre-built recommendation. I think Valve persistently sticking with and getting better at hardware while making a normalfag-friendly windows off-ramp will likely pay off for them down the line

Honestly the Steam Frame alone has my attention. I enjoy VR games but setting up those tracking devices in my apartment is a pain in the ass. I haven't been this excited for gaming hardware in 20 years.

>>1929026 >When the Steam Deck launched I remember a lot of handheld gamers said it was difficult to go back to the Switch with how open the Deck was

>>1929056 It was meant to be this but I'm an idiot and I don't sort out my shit >There are reasons for the console gamer to not do the things we do with our PCs outside of "I don't know how" and "I can't do it" I do have to consider a lot of console gamers can't wrap their heads around arcane ideas like "file systems" and "installers", so it might be a detriment more than anything. >>1929061 You could argue it's the Steam Machine 1. The original initiative never really took off. >>1929076 what did he mean by this

>>1928866 I think it's more of a commercial beta for FEX, sort of like how the SteamDeck was a commercial beta for Proton. There's only so much testing you can do in-house before you have to release it into the wild and let the end-user do the bug-testing for you. I think that's the real purpose of the Steam Frame/Steam Machine. It's a bridge to building compatibility between x86 and ARM. It's not meant to set the market on fire. It's just supposed to sell enough to turn a meager profit and to get enough units out there that you get a decent sample of various use cases to test for compatibility errors and then use that to direct further development and features.

>>1929097 Proton had already reached close to universal compatibility before the deck even was announced. The steam deck maybe got a handful of anti-cheat games to finally update EAC to the proton compatible version.

I have to admit 16GB RAM is going to be pathetic in 2026. This is not a portable console, console gamers don't care about small form factor now that handheld hybrids are a thing. The Playstation 6 is revealing soon and will likely blow the Steam Machine out of the water in terms of specs. Console faggots will get the PS6 and PC gamers will either get a pre-built with better specs or build their own. And the audience who gives a shit how portable it is will just get a Steam Deck. I'm not expecting the Steam Machine to be a huge success.

>>1929100 The tech jewtubers will rave about how it finally brings the long awaited desktop version of steamOS, only to promptly realize that valve was never going to be capable of making their dream retard proof linux distro and that it will be the exact same shit as everything else they failed to daily drive.

>>1929026 >>1929028

>>1929099 Right, but you still have to release a commercial product in order to prove that it's ready for the mass market since most people aren't going to go out of their way to tinker with some random github project. They're going to buy a thing from a shelf, and then bitch on a forum if that thing on the shelf doesn't work correctly.

>>1928963 A laptop with a controller is not comparable to a handheld. You can't play it on the toilet, you can't play it while moving, and it's ass to play just about anywhere that isn't a desk or table.

>>1929115 Am I the only one who used a laptop on the shitter?

>>1929100 >16gb ewwww I guess, i should have expected it being so small.

>>1929157 I do, but its not exactly a gaming laptop albeit I do game on it. A Dell E7280 which is a very tiny laptop

It's incredible how Valve always manages to make their hardware look like abominations

>>1929159 Unlike most consoles, it has separate VRAM, though only 8GB. That means it technically has more RAM than the PS5.

>>1928109 I hope it doesn't suffer from overheatintg

>>1929026 >>1929028

>>1928094 >Valve introduces the XBOX G4 Cube Uhhhh

>>1929240 It's like, 70% cooling solution by volume. I think it'll be fine. At least they're not using something retarded like Liquid Metal like the PS5 did. >Hey I know... why don't we fill up the machine with a SUPER HIGHLY CONDUCTIVE material that gets extremely low viscosity when warmed up - and then we'll design the box to SIT VERTICALLY so that it gets maximum spread over the board when our bullshit little "containment" method inevitably fails.

>>1929026 >>1929028 If it's the wrong file, then why is my dick so stiff, huh? Bet you don't have an answer for that, huh!

The Steam Machine is going viral in Japan, a significant percent of all posts I'm seeing are in Japanese. Can any weebs explain that?

>>1929385 it's because japs are autistically insistent on playing consoles over PC expect an influx of jap reveiws and games on steam

>>1929385 >>1929392 Because they live in cramped apartements with limited space.

>>1929410 Ah yes, Valve invented computer's that are small as we all know.

>>1929157 It's suboptimal. Only the Steam Deck can provide you with jack pleasure.

>>1929462 No, but they have brand power higher than any ITX build producing company. Point is, it's a small console like PC, it's perfect for Nips

>>1929157 I use my phone, why would you spend considerable amount of time with a laptop in the bathroom? My shits take like 5 minutes and that includes wiping unless it's diarrhea.

>>1929462 Maybe because at their heart, they are still bugmen who need to bury their individuality and self-determination by swearing fealty to a Daimyo, or an Emperor, or a Boss, or a Brand. They tend to dislike the openness of western RPGs (or what used to be western RPGs) which let you create your own character, make a custom build, and then figure out how to use that build to make choices in the game which tell your own story. They just wanted a set story, with set characters, with set growth parameters, that they could just follow along and grind out. Same experience everyone else has, on the same box that everyone else has. Even the old PC98/MSX were more like consoles than computers in a lot of ways since you didn't have a choice in operating systems and they had very limited upgrade paths.

>>1929504 It's a shame societies can never stay long enough in the sweet spot middle ground. It's either retarded misguided hyperinduviduality with no concerns for the community or just conformity to the detriment of any critical thinking even if that's for the detriment of the community. But about dem videogames! People are bitching about the 8GB VRAM limitation, but are there really that many games that struggle with it? Only modern release I know of that needed more was STALKER 2 and that fucking thing was so poorly optimized it gives Clear Sky, Crysis and GTA4 a run for their money.

>>1929512 If the use case is a living room console, the vast majority of people have 4K TV's that the PC would not be able to drive. If the use case is an ultra budget 1080p gaming computer then it's fine, but it remains to be seen if it's "ultra budget" or not.

>>1929519 That's the issue, it's a living room thing The 4K meme has been a detriment to entertainment as a whole, fucking basic streaming packages don't even do 4K., consoles and PC can barely do 4K but Sony was more than happy to use Playstation as an ad for their shitty TVs and now Nvidia is pushing AI shit to keep up with this retarded meme resolution. I'm glad LG is raping both them and Samsung now.

>>1929531 >millions of people go to boot up their streaming services on their new steam box <realize every streaming service arbitrarily lowers the bitrate and locks out features on linux

The VR headset and controller are really temping, but I need a price tag. I was actually thinking about buying a used original controller since I heard great things about it and don't want to fuck with the PS3 dualshocks I have. The only reason I have not given into the VR pill is that the Index was $1k (decided on index for the comfort features it has, which looked to be picked up in the new headset). I wonder if valve is going to give the index and knuckles an upgrade, since they have said for years they can do it better AND cheaper.

>>1929545 >Implying they even realize it Anon, the average person is completely tech illiterate.

>>1929026 >>1929028 Nah, that was the correct file.

>>1929519 They already have "4k" game boxes hooked up to these TVs that can't do 4k. Shit, some of them struggle with 1080p still, and they just upscale and frame gen. Nobody seems to complain about it. Built a PC a few years for a friend of a friend. Cost about $1,000 for him, and I packed in a 6800XT, 16GB RAM, and a Ryzen 5 5600X. I sat there and benchmarked it with him using a pirated copy of Cyberpunk 2077 - but I only benchmarked it at 1440p. He was impressed by the image quality, then immediately complained that it wasn't 4k - and felt I was trying to rip him off because I promised the machine would be faster than his Xbox and his Xbox could run Cyberpunk at 4k. I tried to explain that his Xbox was running it at a lower resolution and then upscaling, hence the image clarity being better here, and that to get this over 60fps 4k that he'd also need to use upscaling. Took him into the menus, showed him how to do it, and explained that it's pretty much the exact same upscaling tech that Xbox uses. He didn't really believe me... or it was just too complicated for him and he was lost. In either case, so long as they say it's 4k capable and then just run the games at whatever resolution - most casuals aren't really going to know or care. The dumb shits put up with forced film grain, TAA, motion blur, chromatic aberration, and other sorts of image cancer without a single complaint. Just turn it on and play game. Everything else is marketing bullshit for the vast majority of customers.

>>1929561 >Everything else is marketing bullshit for the vast majority of customers. Yep, they literally can't tell the difference, it's about social posturing not an actual visible tech improvement.

>>1928709 >I think even the 360 had Netflix. Every console since 7th gen had Netflix

>>1929648 Yeah, but the cocksuckers made you pay for Xbox Live if you wanted to stream movies from Netflix. At least for the first few years.

>>1929659 AHAHAHAHAH are you fucking serious? And cocksuckers somehow worship the 360 while Microsoft would paywall literally everything. Fucking nauseating.

>>1929385 >Can any weebs explain that? Nips like consoles and home computer type devices.

>>1929689 Aka being consumerist degenerate cattle

>>1928094 I can see a market for something like the Steam Machine, particularly for "semi-casuals" and families. Put yourself in the shoes of 13yo billy begging his geriatric, tech-illiterate, facebook-scrolling parents to upgrade from their hand-me-down pre-built office shitbox to something that plays those new games with pretty looking graphix that his favorite e-celeb was shilling. Their options would often be: >buy an ultra-overpriced prebuilt "G4M3R PC" that will become just as dated as the consoles years down the line, for twice the price >give them a long, specific grocery list of PC parts with names like "Ryzen Threadripper G148800X3" to buy off the internet and have them assemble it without frying anything, or pay even more for someone else to do it or >go to best buy or browse ebay, get one of those shiny consoles that play current games with nice graphics, take it home and plug it in But assuming they were to price this new Steam Machine closer to a console, if Valve were to step in with their own shiny box that plays current games decently and just werks, and one that also serves as a gateway for casuals and dissatisfied consolefags to get into PC gaming, with most of it's benefits like free online, emulation and mods, as well as the ability to do work/nongaming stuff with it granted, that wont be an easy sell to them because linux, it should certainly take some eyes away from consoles even if it wasn't nearly as powerful as a true gaming PC. Although i do think they really chose the worst time to announce something like this, with GTA right around the corner in 2026 hyping a lot of normalfaggots who didn't have consoles already to pick up PS5s and XSeXs, and with the PC port coming out later it's pretty safe to say that many FOMO'd normalfags who want that first bite into GTA VI won't be considering this one. That's not even getting into how it's going to run in the Steam Machine's seemingly weaker hardware when it does come out for PC. Although then again, i really don't buy that an Xbox Series S will be able to play it without noticeable downgrades either. >>1929026 Man of taste.

>>1929664 Yeah, microsoft still has that 2008 announcement on their page https://news.microsoft.com/source/2008/07/14/microsoft-and-netflix-unveil-partnership-to-instantly-stream-movies-and-tv-episodes-to-the-tv-via-xbox-live/ >this movie watching innovation will be available to Xbox LIVE Gold members who are also Netflix subscribers and will let those users enjoy streaming movies from Netflix on Xbox LIVE at no additional cost. You could download the app to your free-tier silver account but you could not stream anything until you paid for gold. Same thing happened when they added youtube and hulu to the platform. They only dropped the gold requirement in 2014, a year after the Xbone launched.

>>1929385 It sincerely depends how much that PC prebuilt (Steam machine) is priced, which will tell more about what target demographic the company is actually going for. Steam Decks were heavily priced in Japan between being imports and the state of the weak yen which continue to crater down to this day. >>1929410 I don't see how that's different from the average person living in metropolitan areas but sure whatever

>>1929695 >>go to best buy or browse ebay, get one of those shiny consoles that play current games with nice graphics, take it home and plug it in That's not really going to apply to the Steam Machine though, because Valve is selling everything in-house. Part of why the Steam Deck has only sold a few million units to date is because it's not on the shelves at Walmart or Target. Valve doesn't seem to be interested in selling hardware - they just want to make the hardware to set the standard, then let everybody else copy their homework and use their branding so long as it meets their reference hardware specs and features. All of those, too, will be sold through their respective online storefronts too - as well as maybe Amazon and a few tech/pc parts sites. Microsoft is going to end up having an advantage here if they can get their systems back onto store shelves. Which, I really doubt they'll have too many problems with. Just because a current gen console fails and is pulled from retailers, doesn't mean the next generation system will necessarily follow suit. SMS to Genesis, Saturn to Dreamcast, GameCube to Wii, etc. Orders may be tepid at first, but if Microsoft pulls off what they appear to be aiming for - I think they'll have a decent market next generation, even if it costs $1,200. It'll end up being one of the most powerful entry-level computers on the market, streamlined for console retards, and it'll be coming at a time when many PC parts are expected to skyrocket in price due to demand from AI farms. Honestly "next gen" may end up being a return to more standardized console like devices simply because it's easier for large companies to source parts at volume for bulk rates - than it will be for end-users to bargain hunt. Maybe we'll get lucky and the AI bubble will burst before then, but don't count on good things ever happening.

>>1929696 I had peole using Netflix on the fucking Wii for free Xbox fans really were the goodest of goys that completely fucked consoles and gaming in general. Goddamn dude.

>>1929770 Jesus I need to go to bed

Moore's Law is Dead did a complete breakdown of the component prices, and guesstimates a $425-ish price range for the Steam Machine. Basically, from the weird specs, he's thinking that Valve never really went into this with the idea of future proofing the system. They just had a minimum spec threshold, and then went dumpster diving at AMD to see what they had that didn't sell. Turns out AMD had a 7600 variant that was intended to be used in mobile devices, but nobody wanted because it was on an older process and was a goddamned battery vampire. So it was either bin them and eat the loss, or sell them to Valve for dirt cheap because it met their minimum performance threshold and - since the Steam Machine is a desktop/TV device and not mobile - battery life wasn't a factor.

>>1929814 That's the cost to build - I should have put in there that retail price he expects to be around $450-500.

>>1928094 i can't wait to play some gamecube on my gabecube

>>1929829 *gapecube

>>1928703 >Wasn't the whole point Valve started down this route, was to flip off Microshit for constantly throttling them so that people would move over to their gaming site instead? No, what started Valve down this route was Microsoft introducing UWP and attempting to turn windows into a console-like walled garden where Win32 support was phased out (or "untrusted" with a bunch of scary red flags) and everything would be developed within the UWP API container which (originally) was only going to be available from the Microsoft Store. Basically, Microsoft saw what iOS and Google Play were doing, and decided they wanted that for Windows/Surface/Phone. This would have cut the legs out from under any third party publisher on PC, and would have destroyed Valve virtually overnight. Along with Epic, GOG, and every other game or program distributor. If you look back at a lot of the half-baked features of later Windows 8, and Windows 10 - you can see where they had to scrap everything due to the backlash and repurpose or open things back up. So Gabe decided that there needed to be a "lifeboat" away from Windows in order to make sure there was always another platform to migrate to in case Microsoft decided to burn down their own house with you in it. That's pretty much exactly what Valve has done with Proton. They decoupled Windows Applications from Windows, and now they're decoupling Windows Applications from x86 as well. “With its new Universal Windows Platform (UWP) initiative, Microsoft has built a closed platform-within-a-platform into Windows 10, as the first apparent step towards locking down the consumer PC ecosystem and monopolising app distribution and commerce,” wrote Epic Games co-founder Tim Sweeney. “The ultimate danger here is that Microsoft continually improves UWP while neglecting and even degrading win32, over time making it harder for developers and publishers to escape from Microsoft’s new UWP commerce monopoly.” ~ Tim Sweeny, PC Gamer, 2016

>>1928779 Saw some more information, it turns out it's "foveated streaming", and it is about reducing the bandwith in streaming the rendered game from your PC to the VR glasses, not from reducing the rendering resolution directly in the games themselves and saving resources. In other words, everything VR is still just as shitty and unoptimized to run and render unless you have a pretty good PC already. With the expected price range of the glasses themselves, I don't expect that any buyers wouldn't at least have a decent mid to high tier PC anyway, but it's still mildly disappointing as I always expected this kind of tech to be the actual solution to what frame generation was initially proposed to solve (mix rendering at lower and higher resolutions to save resources and vastly improve performance).

>>1929953 It has both Foveated Rendering and Foveated Streaming.

>>1929966 Yes, but foveated rendering will only apply on actual VR titles that support this, which falls on the purview of responsibility of the developers in charge of each title, not from Valve's end. It needs to be manually coded in the rendering pipeline to support it. I wished we could do that even in desktop titles, but researching more and understanding the idea behind it shows me that it's not something done so easily.

>>1929953 >>1929966 >>1929998 >foveated tied up streaming delitized rendering and loving it

>>1930022 gonna steam some bologna

>>1930022 Eh, the tech seems to be good enough that you genuinely don't notice it, if it's well done. It's like LoD or the billion of texture and light tricks that live around you in video games so they can run at a decent frame rate. Still, I speak from a point of view that never experienced that fancier tech so maybe it IS shit and I'm being tricked by the chosen people yet again. I just won't know until I experience it myself, unfortunately.

HOW. MUCH.

>>1930341 one of the reason why they didnt announce the pricing is probably because of the fuckfest that is american economics. theyre probably not sure about the price themselves. Plenty of time from now to "early" 2026 to see how things go and subsequently announce the pricing.

>>1930341 so much hangs on this, the suspense is killing me. If it's not afffordable none of this will matter, it's either price competitvily or die. I can't imagine people would pay more than maybe 500 for a prebuild pc with a soldered on cpu with those specs despit it being more than servicable. And for the VR headset, their competition is the quest 3 price wise so if they don't hit near that mark only the enthusasts would ever bother with it, killinng the device in the mass market and leaving it as niche just like their past headsets. I love linux so it's basically the only options i'd give a shit about but very little people in general care so much about software freedom in that way where they'd be willing to overpay for something. You also have to factor in you got a billion microshaft shills which will be praying on convincing people that the device will somehow be less usable than other pre-builds with their pajeetos made by pooskins. This needs to be a breakout success in the eyes of the public otherwise it's decades more of enshittification. I doubt that the device would be bad, i'm confidient it'd be amaziing but if it doesn't get adopted it won't matter how amazing it is.

>>1930363 It's not American economics. It's RAM prices. AI companies are eating up every spare chip they can manage, so prices have been volatile lately, and it might force the Steam Machine to change price to stay profitable if it gets too crazy.

>>1930341 >>1930391 See >>1929814 >>1929821

>>1930341 >>1930391 $500 seems like a good price. Anymore and you're getting a gimped PC for specs that you can get in a full desktop for slightly more. Then again it seems like consolefags are getting tired of PS5/Xbox and Steam is getting more popular by the year, so maybe now is the right time for a PC based console competitor if Valve pushes it that hard. I feel like it will just be another enthusiast item though, it's not like Valve needs it to succeed. More interested in the controller myself, hope it's less than $200. Fixes the issues with the first one that I had (aside from the lack of real rumble) so I'll pick it up if it's build like the deck instead of feeling like a happymeal toy the way the first one did.

>>1929085 >filenames I can see how that would happen >I do have to consider a lot of console gamers can't wrap their heads around arcane ideas like "file systems" and "installers", so it might be a detriment more than anything. I think a lot of it is just plain indifference too, or fear of pirating

>>1930397 What about the retarded tarrifs ?

>>1930415 Already factored in, so far as I'm aware. The much bigger issue is RAM pricing volatility because of how aggressively AI companies are buying up everything they can get their hands on. It's already starting to affect the consumer market pretty drastically, so the reason why Valve hasn't announced pricing yet is likely because they're waiting to see how the market shakes out before promising one price, and then having to jack it up a few weeks before launch just to stay profitable.

>>1930430 its the samsung hynix cartel at it again, happened multiple times already

>>1928868 There's PinePhone.

>>1930415 >Eurocuck is still butt-hurt about the tariffs.

>>1930450 i own one, it ain't it. fairphone is far better as a linux phone. I'd dream for a more affordable linux phone but as it is they don't exist since no phone manifactorer really pushes their device drivers into mainline linux.

>>1930430 They're not buying shit up you lying dumbfuck, they're just price gouging like shitheads.

I just can't get over this playing devil's advocate, pretending I'm on board with having a tranny be the first thing someone sees in regards to this product, I would still have a problem with them picking people who are just plain ugly regardless of their identity why not get someone who 'passes'? Capcom keeps parading Spherehunter around any time they can, not saying he passes but at least he doesn't have a cleft chin and 5 o' clock shadow genuinely, what is going on here? is it self sabotage? Are they, on purpose, trying to add onto the tranny exhaustion people are already experiencing? Are they just genuinely this removed from reality?

>>1930661 Did Valve outsource the adverts to a local firm in Seattle, maybe? I dunno.

>>1930675 No Valve is just gay and retarded.

>>1930709 I've seen them fuck with Snowbreak and heard about them fucking with Blue Archive and a bunch of other anime games, for sure they have retarded trannies in the company, but surely they can't be this suicidal surely some suit looked at this and thought "damn nigga, we're cooked"

>>1930720 >surely some suit looked at this and thought "damn nigga, we're cooked" Over what? A two second tranny appearance on a hardware reveal that, by all metrics, is generating a lot of positive buzz? The vast majority dont really give a shit about the tranny unless it's pushed in your face

>>1930661 >>1930675 Doug Lombardi got replaced with Kaci Aitchison as Marketing Lead back in 2022. >>1930726 Shouldn't even be there

>>1928303 That's some amazingly beautiful bullshit.

>>1928845 >A while ago I read some blog post out there that was hypothesizing that schizophrenia might be the human brain at the edge

>>1930963 Probably a Microsoft Op.

>>1930661 >>1930675 The fact your instincts tell you that this must be some sort of mistake, and not that Valve itself is obviously a company filled with retarded faggots, shows how new you are.

Dbrand will be making a custom case for this new Steam Machine. It's the Companion Cube, unsurprisingly.

>>1931068 >No I'm with anon here. Pick someone attractive to sell your game at least Valve. Yeah no shit, the reason they don't is because they don't care about being represented by weird ugly retards because they agree with and appreciate them.

>>1931096 You know, it always mesmerized me, that there has never been an anti-companion cube made up by the community. Like a cube that just yells "nigger" randomly

>>1928779 >I already played most VR games nuh uh https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=8QahhyMrYxA

16gb ram is perfectly fine for linux >ram usage dropped by half from win10 to fedora playing the same vidya

>>1931144 16GB of ram was a joke 6 years ago.

>>1930726 you have no idea what you're talking about why do you think ads show attractive people in idealized settings instead of more relatable depictions of their target audience? the ad is saying "This can be you if you buy this garbage", it's aspirational, that's how all advertisement psych works think about a cologne/perfume ad, how do you advertise a smell through a screen? You don't. when people see the ad starts off with trannies that'll color their impression of the product with "trannies" immediately and for a long time after, that's, perhaps quite apropos, market suicide it's just bizarre to think that people who have such a high up position at such a big company can be so incompetent and delusional

>>1931144 >16gb ram is perfectly fine for linux >>ram usage dropped by half from win10 to fedora playing the same vidya It'll be even more efficient on something like SteamOS in its Game Mode which doesn't have a DE in the background to eat some of the RAM.

I like how it didn't even register that the trailer had the two freaks in them, despite me specifically pausing at their scene because I spotted the 8bitdo controller one of them was using.

what is the chance of my pubes getting caught in that while jerking off?

>>1931260 I was more sad that the trailer wasnt like the introductions for team fortress characters. felt very safe. also it is obvious their target audience for the vr headset is the normies. it wont stop me from getting one for illusion games though

>>1930341 I am gaslighting people on e-bay that the steam frame (new vr) is 500 so they would sell me their index for 300 though yeah I do not have the slightest clue

what grinds my gears the most about vr is that its not really vr its a face monitor virtual reality is sword art online not this this is pretty neat and fun but not vr >inb4 I call it vr in my next post

>>1931348 Less than the risk of smacking your balls inadvertently with the tracking rings on other controllers at least.

>>1931367 >virtual reality is sword art online They already have a headset just for people like you.

>>1931356 I've heard some people say that, since the headset won't use base stations, it may end up sognificantly cheaper than the Index and $500 is in the realm of possibility. But in reality we won't know jack shit until Valve says something. If it does end up reasonably priced I'll probably sell my Zuckfuck headset for it

>>1928212 only consoles that flop care about tflops

>>1931385 I'd guess $700 for the headset, but like the Steam Machine, a lot is going to depend on how the prices of Ram shakes out between now and launch.

>>1931383 wheres the brain death maser beam >>1931389 kek

>>1931367 it will be 50 years till thats in the realm of possibility and another 50 to be open-source

>>1928406 I will put a sticker saying "featuring Dante from Devil May Cry series" >>1928225 thank god it has usb 2 ports usb 3 makes my usb sticks get hot and stay hot too much power >>1928229 the play date >>1928236 so alyx 2 is a thing then sadly alyx 3 will never happen >>1928244 why would they do half life 3? no one is amazed with physics puzzles anymore. >>1928260 hopefully their own version of nvidia physx but they actually use it for gameplay not just visual. that tech was impressive and never utilized. >>1928279 >you can see Bethesda's logo kek

>>1931437 my good man it took less than 80 years for us to invent both paper airplanes (thanks to the brothers wright) and rockets that landed people on the moon. it will come sooner than you'd think.

>>1930341 16GB RAM + 8GB VRAM

>>1931348 >can I copy your homework? <yeah just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious

>>1931446 Just to note, it's not Alyx 2. It's not a VR game, it's a normal FPS starring Gordon Freeman.

>>1931068 Nice hyprland snipping tool, fag!

>The majority of the cube is just a heatsink I wonder if you could mod it smaller with an aio?

>>1928094 Uoooh fukkers!

>>1931553 sex the cube

>>1928094 It needs to be sphere shaped.

>>1928094 >Are you sure this will help us sell Steam Decks? >Steam Decks?

>>1932713 I'm not encouraged that all the advertisements are exclusively featuring adults. No kids or teenagers. That means the price point is going to be high. Probably too high.

>>1932713 What is the problem here?

>>1932995 Anon saw a black person on an ad and thinks 'eck is a scheme belongs to Kalergi plan

>>1932995 Advertisements are gay and jewish

don't these fucking retarded hardware manufacturers know that 4K is no longer the high-end premium resolution but the standard in 2025? WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SELLING UNDERPOWERED HARDWARE INCAPABLE OF 4K FOR $1k?

>>1933030 Black person in my ads ? gotta stock up on those M16s (and insulin shots). >>1933049 >FOR $1k? says who ?

>>1932978 >That means the price point is going to be high. Probably too high. Current closest equivalent in mini PC world is 900-1000 bucks but it comes with a big full fledged 16 core Zen4 CPU and is a very niche product, I'd expect the Gabecube to be around 600, maybe less barebones, I doubt they would but they could go loss leader and flirt with 450 to start really cutting into the market

>>1933055 Some Valve leakers like Bradley and Tyler, the price range I'm seeing has been 800-1000. The speculation is they're marketing it as a PC rather than console because they're not targeting console prices.

>>1933061 >marketing it as a PC rather than console because they're not targeting console prices. I don't know what happened with everyone online turning into retards all of a sudden on this. They're marketing it as a PC, because it's a goddamn PC. It's also the same reason why direct comparisons to PS5 are retarded. This should be compared to its fellow mini PCs. Thanks for providing the source though, those leakers turned out to be reliable so far, a $800 price is concerning. I thought of $700 as a possible realistic ceiling, $600 if they want to be aggressive.

>>1933055 doesn't matter. 4K 60fps is the BARE MINIMUM in 2025. >>1933070 even at $800 it's still cheaper than the PS5 and Xbox because the accessories are cheaper and you don't pay for online and aren't fucked in a locked down ecosystem

>>1933079 >even at $800 it's still cheaper than the PS5 and Xbox because the accessories are cheaper and you don't pay for online and aren't fucked in a locked down ecosystem It is. That's something you're going to surprisingly have a hard time telling people though, they seem dead set on their garbage modern console (speaking as a former console-only user). Still, it would be pretty nice if they make the device more affordable, $800 is a lot of money. It's a price point that potentially gets into the territory of "i can build a cheaper pc myself" argument.

>>1931367 VR can be pretty good if it's done well, the problem is that the depth is completely off in most VR games. It just feels like you're looking at a low res screen that's a foot or two away from your face. Kind of makes the VR completely pointless, same as with most 3DS games. Honestly the only game I've tried in VR that gets it right is a H-mod for MikuMiku Dance.

>>1933087 >It's a price point that potentially gets into the territory of "i can build a cheaper pc myself" argument. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLqLzP Pretty close

>>1933049 Most devices can't even output 4k 60FPS, unless they do tricks like "checkered board". When Microsoft and Sony, say their console outputs 4K, what they mean is that they generate a 1080p image, or even a 720 image, and use a program to stretch it to 4k. Don't be fulled my marketing, 4k is not the actual standard in gaming, it's probably still not even native 1440p.

>>1933049 >4K is no longer the high-end premium resolution but the standard in 2025 >Even a 4090 can't run UE5slop games at 4K/60fps Damn bro, what GPU do you have? Gonna pick one up myself.

>>1933110 I know that. I should've added "native" so people don't misinterpret my post my point still stands. modern hardware is incapable of native 4K 60 and are all therefore obsolete on arrival. I hope (doubt) the PS6 will be able to play at native 4K60 at least on low-medium settings >>1933142 yeah modern GPUs are overpriced and underpowered. getting people to spend the price of a car on a card that can't even play 4K properly. and instead of modern devs optimizing their games so they can run properly at 4K, instead they invent a random fake meme resolution "1440p" to cope with being shit devs.

>>1933187 Don't tell me you actually fell for the 4K meme, bought a 4K gaming monitor, and now are salty that you found out, that no GPU or console, actually renders in 4k 60FPS, unless it's on low settings or some indie pixel game.

>>1933256 4K is not a meme at all. I'll be honest that I haven't gamed in 4K yet (either 1080p upscaled to 4K or 4K at low settings at slightly above 30fps), but outside of gaming 4K is OBJECTIVELY better in every single way. much higher pixel density, much more space to have on the desktop at 100% scale, much cleaner image. it's impossible to go back. it's a shame it's taking much longer for gaming to move to 4K due to retarded devs incapable of optimization. 4K has been a thing since 2013 and we STILL have not transitioned properly despite having 12 years to do so, and instead make a fake bullshit cope resolution called "1440p" so we don't have to deal with the issue and continue being lazy incompetent retarded devs. outside of gaming, running at 4K is as easy as breathing now.

>>1933187 >>1933279 I like 1440p and don't understand the hate. It has been around for a long time and only recently became more popular. It's not "fake bullshit"

>>1933297 1440p became a thing AFTER 2160p. that's why it's stupid. it's a DEVOLUTION. it's like if we went from floppy disks to DVDs and THEN to CDs. I hate 1440p because it got in the way and halted mass adoption of 4K.

>>1933311 Found the nigger

>>1933279 >outside of gaming, running at 4K is as easy as breathing now. Outside of gaming, is what movies? Sure, if you have a movie that is actually in 4K, then probably even something at the level of a PS3 could render it at 24 FPS, though you should know that the movies you pirate might not actually be 4k, as most of them are still 1080p. If it's streaming, like what most people do nowadays, even if you >pay for 4K, Netflix or whatever, won't actually give you 4k streaming, but still just 1080p, for most of their content, while gaslighting you into thinking that it's 4K(Louis Rossmann talked about this). Besides movies, what else anime? Lol. Phones? As far as I know they don't have them, nor do they need 4k, because of how small the screen is. Speaking of which, if you are close enough to a monitor, and it's small enough, then you most likely won't be able to tell the difference between 4k and 1440p, that's why it's a meme. For a giant TV, that you put at the other end of the living room, makes sense to be in 4K, but not necessarily a 17'' monitor. This is why it's mostly a meme, either you don't actually have material that is actually in 4K(movies, anime, games), but at stretched to 4K, or you can't tell the difference(phone monitors). Now I am sure that GPUs from 10-15 years in the future will be able to render today's AAA trash in 4K 60FPS natively, but it won't be able to render the UE6 slops from the future, just because of how much processing power will be needed to render those extra post processing effects, AI frames, and 4K textures. In the end, as much as hardware advances, so will the graphics, sadly, and it might be that the GPUs will never truly be able to render the latest games at 4K 60FPS natively, without all sorts of tricks and/or AI. You can blame it on "unoptimization", all you want, I still think that what I am saying will hold true for the next 10-15 years, so enjoy those AI generated frames.

>>1933311 I don't think developer skill issues can be blamed on a monitor focused resolution. Games just aren't there yet. 4k and QHD became a thing around roughly the same time, with consumer monitors being released in 2010. Neither were really mass market ready at the time, but 1440p caught on because it was easier to work with. I knew 4k wasn't anywhere near ready for gaming, but wanted a bump and got a 1440p monitor in 2019 that has served me well for years. It is what it is, and not because someone made something up.

I might get the frame and controller. Not sure what the point behind the Gabecube actually is. I guess it's for people that want to get into PC games but don't have one. >>1928709 The unfortunate problem with Netflix on Linux is that Netflix hates Linux users. You can pay for 4K and get ripped off with a 720p stream. >>1929385 Japanese houses are small. They love ITX and mini PCs there. >>1931144 This is true. I only feel the lack of RAM when I play with AI slop.

>>1931553 >>1931550 Hardware modding the Steam Machine (or really all of Valve's new hardware) is gonna be fun to watch. There's been plenty of weird hardware mods for consoles, but Valve seems to be the only company that doesn't seem to be actively hostile against this. The only other company that I could think of that currently embraces this kind of DIY tinkering is Framework. Even old prototypes are somehow revived.

>>1933070 According to Linus, another reason they're pricing it like a PC is to avoid the scenario of large volume enterprise purchases. Consoles are sold at a loss and subsidized with game sales and subscriptions, if some corporation were to purchase 50,000 it would be a net loss of millions with no returns. Don't think that wouldn't happen, the Steam Deck is already used for this exact purpose.

>>1933471 it looks like some headcrab eating her head.

>>1933446 The second picture makes it look like the controller is wearing geek glasses >>1933456 Is it not possible for them to verify and block mass purchase orders? >>1933471 Very cute

>>1933438 >The unfortunate problem with Netflix on Linux is that Netflix hates Linux users. You can pay for 4K and get ripped off with a 720p stream. Netflix knee capping Linux is essentially propping up the entire Nvidia shield and streaming stick industry.

Im realizing that the Cube will probably be a dream come true for emulation. Having an easy hookup to a tv that can emulate about any generation will be great >>1933079 >4K 60fps is the BARE MINIMUM in 2025. Im still comfy with my 1440p 180hz

>>1933456 How many units have been purchased for mass use vs it's intended, do you have information on this

>>1933515 Unfortunately no, Valve doesn't publish sales information. Another case of SD enterprise use is animatronics, Disneyland is known to use them for instance.

>>1933324 even films that were recorded in analog or 1080p look better upscaled to 4K, but I still wish native 4K films would be more common, and they will be. only a matter of time. Netflix and all streaming are scam. phones and portable devices don't need and shouldn't have 4K displays due to battery. I have a 27" inch 4K monitor and I do think it looks better than a 40-50inch 4K TV due to pixel density. 50"+ needs 8K to look as good as 4K at 27". and as I've said. at 4K you have MUCH more space at 100% scale than you would on 1080p/1440p. sadly I do think you're correct about 4K still not being a thing in 10-15 due to retarded incompetent devs and adding a bunch of useless junk like AI and effects and failure to optimize games. I will never use fake AI fullshit. rather have real 30fps than fake 120. >>1933334 how come we didn't have this bull shit migrating form 480i to 720p? or 720p to 1080p? 480i to 720p happened in a matter of 2-3 years. by 2007-2008 everyone had a 720p/768p screen. same with 1080p. the switch to 4K is taking too long. not even fake upscaled 4K is popular yet. >>1933495 you do you. I always took resolution over framerate (to an extent)

>>1933604 >I still wish native 4K films would be more common A lot of movies recorded on film are better quality than modern digital 4k but were instead rerelased in "2k" (the supposed resolution differs depending on tape size obviously but you understand) >how come we didn't have this bull shit migrating form 480i to 720p? or 720p to 1080p? There were many freak resolutions between pal/ntsc resolutions and hd/fhd, theres at least a dozen of those ws/wx/sx/ux/wu/fw/fwx abomimations that nobody remembers

>>1933311 1440p is just the 16x9 version of 2560x1600 which was a thing long before 4k. 2560x1600 was also quite popular with high end SLI rigs from the 7th gen era, where even Nvidia advertised the resolution as playable on a single 8800GTX on some titles that were just a few years old at the time like Half Life 2.

>>1933515 >How many units have been purchased for mass use vs it's intended Not the Steam Deck, but: https://archive.ph/Noi26 >US Air Force connects 1,760 PlayStation 3's to build supercomputer <About the 33rd largest supercomputer in the world right now is the US Air Force Research Laboratory's (AFRL) newest system, which has a core made of 1,760 Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) consoles. In addition to its large capacity, the so-called "Condor Cluster" is capable of performing 500 trillion floating point operations per second (TFLOPS), making it the fastest interactive computer in the entire US Defense Department. <... <The Condor Cluster project began four years ago, when PlayStation consoles cost about $400 each. At the same time, comparable technology would have cost about $10,000 per unit. Overall, the PS3s for the supercomputer's core cost about $2 million. According to AFRL Director of High Power Computing Mark Barnell, that cost is about 5-10% of the cost of an equivalent system built with off-the-shelf computer parts. <Another advantage of the PS3-based supercomputer is its energy efficiency: it consumes just 10% of the power of comparable supercomputers. <In addition to the PS3s, the supercomputer also includes 168 separate graphical processing units and 84 coordinating servers to direct traffic within the system. The PS3s are the older, larger variety, since the newer slim models don't allow for the installation of Linux.

>>1933604 >even films that were recorded in analog or 1080p look better upscaled to 4K How can that even be true? For me it sounds like taking a GBA resolution and upscaling it to a 1080p 17'' monitor. Yes, the image is bigger, but it doesn't really have more details. >>1933650 Didn't Valve limit the purchase of the Deck to at most 2 per user, that had at least a 6 months old account, to avoid mass purchase, or was that only when they took preorders?

>>1933670 depends on the source. a lot of analog films were caught in a resolution equivalent to ~5.6K, so you technically need 8K to see the film in full detail. another form is using really good forms of upscaling that makes lower resolution images look better.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VkW3wTHT-p8&t=853 "The Steam Machine is equal to or better than 70% of what people have at home" -Valve engineer, referencing the Steam hardware survey.

>>1933487 Never realized that this is the most likely explanation. I'll just keep pirating :^) >>1933723 I like how approachable Valve's engineers seem to be for this stuff. I haven't seen a single PR person talk about the new hardware and it's great.

>Steam machine >*looks inside >Electricity machine

>>1933446 >5th pic can't wait for vid relate to be the norm, 60+FPS color ewetting displays will be amazing, can you even imagine one of those robots with a screen face but with this instead? https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qF52pUyze80

>>1933869 >nuclear generator >*look inside >fancy water boiler

>>1933604 Cause they aren't the same thing retard, simple as. What a stupid fucking response in a series is stupid posts. Those were a lot closer in pixel density and finally entered the scene after generations of fucking VHS quality.

>>1933869 Is this more to your liking? Still runs on electricity, but at least the cosplay is nice

>>1933650 >>US Air Force connects 1,760 PlayStation 3's to build supercomputer Those expenses were totally justifiable. We needed them to defeat Saddam Hussein's PS2 nuclear missile launching Supercomputer.

>>1933471 She's perfect.

>>1934011 Give it an anime girl's face and make the shell capacitive touch so that she reacts when you head pat it, or gets embarrassed and angry when you mess with the cables in the back, and I'm 10,000% sold.

>announce new vidya console >but no games steambox has literally no games.

>>1934361 Yeah, at this point it's practically vaporware.

>>1934361 jokes aside, I REALLY hope we get true PC exclusives back. last one we had was Crysis. now the PC is just for playing console games with shinier graphics

>>1933471 Would.

>>1933471 *mwah* Perfection.

>Half Lifes 27th birthday next week >HL3 rumours everywhere If nothing happens next Wednesday on the 19th it won't ever happen.

>>1934697 >expecting something on the 27th anniversary of Half-Life >and not the 81st anniversary instead

>>1934744 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>1928606 Have this ready if the price turns out to be retarded

>>1934697 27=3³

>>1931435 >not seeing the glued electronically activated shotgun shell tubes

>>1934481 Your just not looking hard enough or not playing the right game genre's. You'd never see a game like X4 on console because it's just too UI heavy to be controlled effectively with a gamepad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKdx_Xx0yFg&list=PLjMDVXkLIQ36CzWJrF2K1P-EyqHFg5Sdx&index=8&t=219

>>1934481 Nigger

>>1934788 Uh oh

>>1934481 PC exclusives exist, thing is they're usually timed exclusives since devs eventually want to sell their games on the PS5 or Switch for some extra revenue.

Your bigger then a Gabecube right anon?

>>1936053 No and im PROUD TO BE GNOMISH

Half life 3 launch title for gabecube lets goooooo.

>>1936053 Yes, but only when standing at attention (grower not a show-er)

>>1931553 hnnnnnggghhh AHHH FUCK GABE HAVE MERCY

>>1936424 hotglue the machinery

Looking at the controller again. The desk puck is great and I hope more companies rip that off.

PC saw his friends were having so much fun in the livingroom, he decided to join then.

>>1933604 >how come we didn't have this bull shit migrating form 480i to 720p? or 720p to 1080p? 480i to 720p happened in a matter of 2-3 years. by 2007-2008 everyone had a 720p/768p screen. same with 1080p. the switch to 4K is taking too long. not even fake upscaled 4K is popular yet. Although it's still a doubling, it's a lot of pixels to render, and the difference in pixels is a lot more. We've had huge jumps in hardware since the 480 to 720 and 1080 change as well, GPUs used to have 1GB to 3GB and that was impressive at the time, in the 4K era we haven't had that happen as much really. I think also adopting new connectors is taking a while as well which means making a 4K high refresh rate monitor is more expensive or is limited to a lower refresh rate than some cheap FHD or QHD monitor, which is a problem as companies sell a lot of gamer monitors. The AI boom creates demand for high amounts VRAM, which helps with putting large displays in memory, but does not create an incentive for raster performance. Developers put less effort into optimizing games and want to put giant textures in games now that will eat up all that VRAM, and 4K just means you lost even more VRAM. Also 4K video content became "exclusive" expensive stuff that you have to pay extra for so on the streaming platforms except for free ad subsidized ones like YouTube and also is more expensive on disk, and it turns out most people don't care enough to pay for it or don't have a screen that would display it. Oh yeah and you have horrible scaling issues with 4K which means game devs need to scale their UIs or add manual scaling. Old games don't scale their UI or need to be modded heavily for it. Also some OSes have scaling issues still, overall this is still an early adopter technology in 2025 unfortunately.

>>1928652 >therapist office decoration >an unfinished game of chess >pink mug Whoever put this scene together was having a giggle.

I'm gonna need to see its price first...so I can eventually get a second hand one.

>>1936424 Good for her tbh, I hope Gabe sees this >>1938578 real

>>1936424 god forgive me

>>1939357 There's no way you beat your meat to that Anon cmon

>>1939363 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlf08yTPiU&list=RDcHlf08yTPiU&start_radio=1

So... what's the chances of Valve's OEM partners being able to create their own Steam Frame "Compute Unit" with all of the required baseline features to make it eligable for Steam Frame branding - but also having upgraded memory, ARM processor, higher resolution displays, color passthroughs - etc? The device seems easy to tear down into large modular chunks which can be replaced or modded - and Steam's initial hardware release just being a, well, a budget friendly framework from which customize your own device.

>>1939779 >different ARM processors I don't think it's very likely. The state of graphics drivers on ARM is pretty bad compared to AMD, Intel or even NVIDIA. If you want good performance, you're basically limited to one old kernel version the manufacturer released a driver for. I'm assuming Valve is going to maintain the driver for the frame's GPU themselves so that it runs well with newer kernels. I doubt the OEM partners are able to maintain graphics drivers themselves.

>>1939873 That got me so surprised thawt they'd be releasing an arm based product for gaming no less. My excperience with even the "highest end" of arm devices on linux has always been really awful just in how arm processors get support. >>1939873 Valve historically has been really good with mainlining their drivers. I'm praying they convinced qualcom to let it happen.

>>1941109 wait this piece of shit uses ARM? dead on arrival. end your locked bootloader and not being able to install whatever OS you want on it

>>1941152 ARM is used for the new VR headset retard, the GaybeCube uses x86 hardware. Somehow you missed the specs which are everywhere.

>ARM ain't that the same processor a the GBA/DS?, could someone make some kind of hypervisor to run those games there?

>>1941707 Why go through the trouble? Supposedly the Frame can just run android APKs, so you could just stick an emulator there, somehow

>>1939357 >>1939639

>>1941152 Valve hasn't locked down the bootloader on any hardware they've released so I don't think the frame will be any different. >>1941707 Might be possible, but I don't think anyone would bother since those handhelds are easy to emulate.

>>1941707 Older arm chips code isnt compatible with newer arm, that's the thing about RISC architectures

Kind of wish Valve allowed or released themselves some benchmarks for the Machine, to show how really powerful it is. I know this for a fact, but good luck convincing the uninitiated that it should perform far better than what is normally expected from the same parts on regular PCs due to using Linux and the exclusive optimizations Valve pushes to their own hardware (just like in the Deck).

>>1942231 I don't expect miracles from it, but it will perform better than a machine running windows. Lots of people already have SteamOS installed on the Xbox ROG Ally X and measured an embarrassingly noticeable advantage. Personally, I think it's a good idea for Valve to release a potato. They need to put the brakes on this trend of ever increasingly powerful hardware that brute forces worse and worse looking games. We've been on a trajectory of diminishing returns since the 7th generation at least, meanwhile they strip out dynamic illumination, physics engines, NPC AI, and other core features just to get the things out the door under budget and buggy instead of broken. The industry is buckling, and as much as I'd like to see a collapse, Valve probably doesn't since they rely on game sales. Everything just needs to scale the fuck back for a while until either we can get some actual programmers trained again, or the AI gets good enough to replace everyone. This shit is getting too expensive for end-consumers to blow more and more money on fewer and worse games. Just give them an affordable budget unit that gets them by, and then let them decide later if they can afford to upgrade it or just buy a more powerful OEM variant. Ironically, Microsoft had the right idea with the Xbox Series S, but pre-plandemic prices were still at least SOMEWHAT reasonable so it just ended up holding back the higher-end hardware.

>>1942339 Alyx being on VR pretty much forced them to optimize and improve upon older visual techniques. Graphicfaggotry was bad enough 15 years ago, nowadays, it's gone beyond a fucking joke.

>>1942171 There are emulators for these consoles on arm devices (including the specific chip valve is using) with comaptibility lists covering nearly all the games >>1942231 Theres going to be a lot of benchmark vids coming out from multiple different big channels once the thing starts being shipped out, for now you can look for benchmarks of closest available hardware (ryzen 5 7640u and radeon rx 7600s/m)

>people arguing about Steam Machine specs Why even bother? Graphics peaked like 10-13 years ago, everything since has been rat race of progressively less efficient techniques that theoretically look better but don't appreciably affect perceived fidelity. In some ways games today look worse than they did in 2012-2014. Besides that, if specs mattered Xbox would have outside the PS2 and PS5 would have outsold the Switch. I have no idea if the Steam Machine will be a hit or not but specs likely won't factor in, price and user experience will matter more.

>>1942407 specs matter but they are just one part of the puzzle >In some ways games today look worse than they did in 2012-2014 Modern games have regressed in many ways, not just graphics/performance wise the cubes popularity will depend a lot on the price and whether its a good deal compared to something you can piece together yourself with all the used parts available for cheap

>>1942339 >Personally, I think it's a good idea for Valve to release a potato. Agreed. >>1942407 >>1942418 As the other anon said, it'll be a matter of price. I do believe that it's in PC users best interest this thing is a hit, if it somehow becomes a baseline for devs to target, it'll lead to much healthier games performance-wise.

>>1942418 Pricing is absolutely key. The rough price of the components in the Steam Machine add up to about $425, which bodes very well for this thing's actual price. If the Deck was sold at a loss, they could see this for a very small profit margin at around $500 or $450 if they really wanted to.

For all the arguing I've seen about the Steam Machine's specs and pricing, people actually in the industry have a very different opinion of it. https://archive.ph/7wPUH https://archive.ph/ZLeuL https://archive.ph/MOWfo https://archive.ph/zvVSb The general consensus I'm seeing from tech journos and some devs: SM will kill Xbox or heavily dampen, onboard people to PC gaming, and be a major console disruptor. I don't know if I agree, but it's a very different narrative to what I'm seeing online.

>>1942676 It might kill Xbox since their next console was literally a fucking PC. Nintendo and Sony will remain unaffected by it.

>>1942676 I wonder if Microsoft will try to pull some strings with the Government to get them to take on Valve. There's a lot of companies who tried and failed to push their own launchers who aren't happy that Steam kicked their asses - like Tim Sweeny - who would love to push the growing narrative that Steam is a monopoly. Now I don't think Microsoft really gives that much of a shit about their consoles, but if Steam Machines were pick up and prove to be a market disruptor - that's going to increase the prominence of Linux as an alternate operating system. While I doubt Linux will ever break even 10% marketshare anytime soon, 10% is unacceptable to Microsoft. 1% is unacceptable, so long as it provides an escape route out of Microsoft's ecosystem while not losing compatibility with Windows programs. What's the chances that they go crying to the Government in order to get Valve investigated by a heavily bias panel for anti-trust? The Government has tacitly owned Microsoft ever since their own anti-trust hearings. The Government allows Microsoft to exist as a monopoly in exchange for cheap licenses, services, servers, and contract work. The Government and Military run on Windows. If Microsoft can bullshit them/pay them into thinking that letting Linux disrupt the Windows monopoly would be a threat - could we actually end up seeing Valve get split up? We already know Microsoft has been angling to buy out Valve for a while now thanks to the FTC leaks. Seems a good strategy for them to have the Government rip Valve into pieces, scatter them to the wind, and then buy up the pieces for pennies on the dollar.

>>1942676 It will absolutely fuck Xbox because this is what Xbox Magnus was meant to be, but it's launching years before it with better software and a functional OS. Remember that Phil Spencer at one point thought could buy Valve.

>>1939363 >he doesn't pleasure himself to images of inanimate objects Consoles get thirsty too~

>>1942676 Not hard to do when Xbox is an inch away from death.

>>1942407 It's crazy that developers barely use what we have currently and the games still run terrible. I wonder at this point what would it take to get developers to actually care about making their games run and look good again.

>>1942774 Why work hard when you can FSR/DLSS your crappy game performance

>>1942676 >SM will kill Xbox Doubtful, I think the remaining Xbox users only play CoD, Battlefield, or the yearly sports slop. And that's about the only stuff SteamOS won't play because you can't really do invasive kernel level anti cheat like you can on windows.

>>1942378 Yes, but that isnt the same as natively running them which is what >>1941707 was asking

>>1942861 i misunderstood the question then Youd need the actual chips to be present because a shared isa is not nearly enough to play those games, especially when theres a 20 year gap between the designs

>>1934697 You fucker, for a moment I thought that was Gordon using the Solid Snake hev form.

>>1942705 >I wonder if Microsoft will try to pull some strings with the Government to get them to take on Valve. People still remember the monopoly case of the 1990s. No one taking Microsoft's side is going to have any constituent support.

>>1942339 >Personally, I think it's a good idea for Valve to release a potato. They need to put the brakes on this trend of ever increasingly powerful hardware that brute forces worse and worse looking games. Unfortunately people also thought the the Deck would make devs actually optimize their games but it hasn't gotten any better.

>>1943278 The Deck wasn't a mass market success

>>1943056 Microsoft wouldn't have any public face in the matter. They're not going to come out and directly say "This Anti-Trust Hearing brought to you by: Microsoft: Powering Your Future" on CSPAN.

>>1943284 Well then just look at the fact that devs barely optimize their games for the consoles we have right now.