>>26369
I played a lot of Bane back in the day. That hero was a fucking asshole, especially with Necronomicon. Somehow Heroes of Newerth's Succubus (its Bane clone from back when they were just 100% porting DotA heroes) always felt better to play though. I think it had to do with animation times and turn times, but Succubus was much more comfortable, esp. if you wanted to try playing carry style.
>>26381
>>26382
There's a "fan server" (does it even count as a fan server when they seem to have original HoN devs and are working on some kind of official HoN remake?) that is still quite active:
https://projectkongor.com/
>>26375
>Lies they may tell you when you play DotA 2...
>
>"The game is not over until the ancient falls."
This guy is such a fucking faggot. I fucking hate quitters. Quitters are a consequence of cowardly retards who don't know how to regroup and make a comeback when the enemy is ahead. It's a consequence of people being unable to deviate their builds. If I'm falling behind in DotA as a regular damage carry, I stop aiming for expensive 4K+ gold items and start buying dirt cheap cost-effective items to bridge the gap and start hammering the enemy team. Once I get a few kills including an enemy carry kill under my belt, I can recover just fine. I've done a lot of comebacks so the whole "game is lost" mentality just grates on me. Hell I've helped teammates recover from a bad position because I needed them to do good for our team to win.
Probably my best and most ridiculous loss ever came from quitters around 6.84 patch. I was playing Necrolyte and my team was doing bad and they declared that the game was lost. I said "wtf we are winning just hold out a moment and we've got this" since I was buying the item that would make my build ridiculous (Octarine Core) but they just said "no man this game is lost" so they just called it quits and let enemy team collect
fucking megacreeps and then decided to sell all items, waste it on wards, and fountainhug until the game was over. I then proceeded to 1v5
the entire enemy team plus 3 lanes of megacreeps as Necrolyte and dragged out that loss for
a full half hour after they had megas because my build was that ridiculous. It honestly made me wish for LoL-style regenerating rax because the fact that I was stuck doing base defense meant that I couldn't push at all and needed to D.
If you're wondering how the fuck I was pulling that off, Necrolyte regens up a storm from Sadism stacks and I had Octarine Core which at that time made me regen from basically fucking everything. I was pulling mad gold from all the lanes and hero kills so I accumulated more gold than I could possibly use. My final items were Radiance, Veil of Discord, Dagon 5, Blade Mail, Octarine Core, and Guardian Greaves. Blade Mail was fully retarded because it was a 4.5 second duration of BKB-piercing 100% damage reflect on a 12 second cooldown that became a 4.5 second duration of reflect on a 9 second cooldown that would also heal me 25% of the damage it reflected and the way it calculated that incoming damage and reflect heal simultaneously it really just became 25% damage reduction while BM was active (in addition to making people eat 100% of their own damage). In addition I was healing off of Death Pulse (both the heal and the damage), Sadism stacks, Heartstopper Aura, and Radiance aura practically passively and there were a shitton of creeps around me. I essentially could not die and would also heal from Dagon 5, activating Guardian Greaves, and ulting people (plus hero kills gave ridiculous sadism stacks). I was just an endlessly regenerating dynamo of AoE pain (lower CD on death pulse, heartstopper, and radiance with a Veil of Discord debuff meant that people were taking 200+ DPS just from being in AoE range of me and I would heal for 25% of that) that had surprisingly nasty auto and single target damage to boot.
It took them fucking forever to kill me (like I said, a little over half an hour, this is not an exaggeration). If my team hadn't decided to give up like that we would've won in much less time than it took for me to lose. My shitter quitters even complained to the enemy team "just end already" and they would respond "dude I'm trying" and would continue to die to me. One or two of those guys who fountainhugged eventually (after like 20 minutes) tried to rejoin the match a bit because I was doing so stupidly well the game was still not ending but he had no items and no gold (and was behind on exp I think) so he didn't manage much.
Also getting raped by high level Faceless Void as low level Crystal Maiden is not a sign that the game is over what the fucking fuck. Crystal Maiden is habitually low level. She's a backline support who helps the team by providing global mana regen and buying wards and support items. She's pretty much always going to be weak as fuck but her role is to support her team to victory. This motherfucker was definitely the kind of shit player who would disconnect early when the game wasn't going in his favor until we started using autoban software, hostbots (like GHost++), and sharing banlists on DotA 1. HoN and DotA 2 also punish you for that shit for a reason, but the quitters are still fucking looking for a way to be fucking cancer and give up. Even when the enemy team's carry is dominating, he's usually not going to manage to be everywhere at once so a good telepush can make for a hell of a come from behind win or just force him to D while buying time for your team to recover.
Seriously, I've had so many fucking wins from a position of weakness that I just fucking hate retards who cannot adapt and can only give up when the game starts going south a bit. Motherfucker I've had games where I would carry as a support hero because our team's carry was fucking failing and we would go on to win the game. I've had games where my carries were glass cannons that had damage but would die way too fucking fast and I would support them with all the fucking survival-boosting support items (vlads, mek, and pipe with TP boots to always be there for a fight) and suddenly they would wreck the enemy team instead of dying in short order. Fucking pay attention to how the game is unfolding and adapt, adapt, adapt. You can make shit work out for you if you fucking adjust your build and playstyle to the game and communicate to teammates how to do better. There are plenty of games I've won simply because I knew how to use the chat bar and ask allies for ganks, lane swaps, etc. or just explain how to do a two-hero combo. Sometimes I would just explain to people what items to buy or how to handle certain enemy heroes better. I've seen bad teammates improve considerably mid-game simply because I was teaching them and they would go on to become quite decent and effective. I've had games I won because I told my team "keep pushing, we can get at least another tower" when we win a teamfight instead of going back and farming after the first tower and would end up pushing so fast we raxed. I've also had games where I would just telepush and tower my way into my team recovering from the gold deficit, but most of that shit was before the cancer patch that was 6.82 (where they nerfed tower gold and raised comeback gold so fucking much that it became harder to make an effective difference). 6.82 was cancer. 6.84 reined it in some but man, pre-6.82 DotA was a better game.
Anyway, I don't play DotA anymore because DotA went completely to shit as 7.00 came out. Miss me with that gay shit.