I've missed him bros

Oh no... >>10314 He seems to be one of your consistent bromons. Congrats on getting the lad back. >Ultramegadeath

I understand what you all meant when you said this was autistic as fuck.

Some of these are decent changes, but others really aren't.

>Enchanted makes all positive stat boosts become negative haha... setup sisters we lost.

>>10316 Love the retarded looking dragon, simple as I'm probably one of the five people happy that it got an evo, and even happier it's actually pretty damn good kek whether that holds up in this schizofest is another matter >>10318 oh it hasn't even started yet bro

>>10321 I'm not a big fan of using Archaludon, but I'm glad it exists. I'm even happier it made smoggies seethe so hard. >oh it hasn't even started yet bro Can't wait haha...

I'm sure this is going to make for some screenshot gold later.

>>10297 >>10300 >>10302 gg, am I in time for empiremaxxing

Is there a google doc of missable shit I should be aware of? >>10325 retvrn to the chromosome collection game.

GG for all the stuff I missed and happy freedom day for everyone in Muricah. >>10314 ArCHADludon becoming one of my go to bromons almost immediately after I first used it in battle was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. >>10318 Oh you poor innocent fool......... https://pokemon-fangames.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PE/overview https://pokemon-empire-pbs.infinityfreeapp.com/PokemonPBS/ Here's the autism docs, a lot of it is fairly outdated though and the PBS doesn't note a lot of newer encounters and such. The mod also added a few encounters to the early game like Meditite on the frozen mountain clearing.

it can say easy all it wants but I've seen the stupid shit base game does

Does this game allow for randomized hidden abilities? Can I reset for Moxie Scraggy? >>10327 Thanks bro.

Moxie Scraggy first try.

What exactly are paragon moves and how do they work? Pressing the button let me use Low Kick "for free".

>>10329 Yes you can, the starter you get also comes with an item that replaces ability capsules, you'll note Octavius loves replacing, renaming and changing shit for literally reason. >>10331 It's functionaly a fifth move, that's it.

What a wretched battle background. From the screenshots you guys were posting they don't get any better later on either. >>10332 Noted and I'll brace for it. Thanks bro.

was this always here? I thought the game just threw you to the wolves at the start but you can get some healing items here

>>10335 Yup, this gatehouse always existed. There's also a secret in that little wardrobe for later, I think you can get what's inside after you see the cutscene with the gigamutt champion.

>>10334 How many badges for a bump stock?

This reminded me of how much I utterly loathe the new DK design.

>Schizo field text >Dogshit pixelated battle backgrounds Bros... we've retvrned to derivative reborn slop. We're home. If you get paralyzed in this intro section do you just have to deal with it because there's no center/bed? >>10337 A remoraid or octillery can't be too hard to get, but importing a rainglock or cannonance from fochun is probably hell getting it by customs.

can't wait to sue these people for "using force exceeding self-defense" like a true american

This name was a perfect pick.

>>10339 Yup, you're fucked outta luck until you reach the first pokecenter, Octavius used to shit on the player here if you managed to get knocked out, which wasn't hard in the slightest. AVOID THE TRAINER IN THE BENCH, DO NOT APPROACH HIM, the fucker has an extremely obnoxious and hard to kill fakemon. Also avoid using F12 as much as humanly possible, it will bite you in the ass because Octavius hates you. >Weaponmons Funnily enough the game makes it seem like Mega stones are high grade military weaponry and their production (Octavius outrights disregards every bit of Pokemon lore and substitutes it with his dogshit) is deemed super illegal. >>10340 Speaking of this, there's a lot more cash to steal and find around Polaris now.

Bros, give me one good reason to not debug the EXP All into the game? >>10342 >Bench trainer Fought him and beat him if you mean the ground/poison thing. I caught one myself in the grass nearby too. >Also avoid using F12 as much as humanly possible, it will bite you in the ass because Octavius hates you. What happens?

>>10339 It's weird how TM Bullet Seed is legal everywhere except America and France. Then again, America even banned HMs and the useful ones had to be reclassified as TMs to pass the customs. >>10342 Production of mega stones specifically? These are just rocks irradiated by the ultimate weapon, I don't think Telius should be able to produce them unless they seized the means of destruction. Also you can buy uranium off eBay.

>>10343 EXP gain is shit throughout the entire game, spawning in rare candies is entirely justifiable given how awful things are otherwise. >What happens Using F12 is explained in game as the MC tapping into a cursed eldritch relic that saps his lifeforce every time he uses it, this will have lasting consequences thanks to Octavius wanting to make your life miserable. It's not too pronounced at the start, but later down the line the game will punish you hard for using F12 at all, I think you can dodge this by closing and re-opening the game, but I'm not sure. >>10344 Like I said, Octavius doesn't give a single shit about Pokemon lore or Pokemon as a whole actually, Empire outright hates Pokemon and only onces it as mask to push for Octavius' dogshit fanfiction and political ramblings and "le deep philosophical topics".

>>10345 only uses it as a mask* fuck my brain is tired.

>>10345 He could have instead made them illegal because gen 7 suddenly turned mega evolution into torture, and I assume this plot point came out after gen 7 was released so he had an easy out to achieve the same result. I haven't yet gotten around to playing Empire because of general lack of time and this general's impressions of it but geez, guess I'll have to look forward to sperging over the lore violations too.

if you don't have speedup on you can totally grab this from the woman's house before she catches you once I have no idea what it does

>>10348 Is it piracy?

>Sand won't go away after 12 turns >Sandshrew is outspeeding everything and every single one of it's moves flinch you because fuck you >Herder is immune to all forms of status for some reason >Bulldoze for literally no good reason is boosted to absurd levels in this field >Doesn't do the 3x damage thing to mons using Dig >Another fight here in this cafe had a cunt using 3 mons at once with a busted rain team while I was only allowe to use 2 Pokemon Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh................ >>10348 This is related to chapter 1's secret quest, you need to make your first dex completion milestone, find this and the third item is in the inn upstairs. Also, if you invade the house at night through the window, you can go upstairs and get a full restore.

>The AI input read cheats with Sucker Punch Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh..........I want to like Divulgence dude, I really do, but shit like this pisses me to an unreasonable extent.

Sandshrew isn't fucking using a fucking item that boosts flinch chances, so the fucking field is giving it a massive flinch boost niggery boost, I'm suspecting it's something retarded like a 60% chance, because there's no fucking this shit stain is flinching every single one of my Pokemon nonstop with his much consistency.

>Get flinch stunned for 15 turns >The game has the audacity to make the last Pokemon in this dogshit fight abuse evasion shittery

>Shellmet egg Fucking dammit...........

Switch training accelerator spawned. I hate these battle backgrounds. >This NPC I understand why you all wanted me to play this now. >>10351 >Sucker Punch I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

OhNONONONONO

I thought it was a regional but it has a different name

Oh it isn't set in stone what you get here. >>10355 The Yo'ACK shit is hilarious and it gets progressively funnier. >I'm pretty sure it doesn't Out of my 3 attempts at that fight, Cacnea only used Sucker Punch when I used an offensive move, never otherwise, at some point of seeing bullshit of this level it becomes hard to believe I'm not getting fucked on purpose by the AI. >>10357 Octavius made every catmon into either a Dark type or outright changed their description to something really retarded, then there's Perrserker, which was genocided by the commies in Tellius, then the species was ressurect via soyence and turned into......this..........

>Casual Mewtwo owner Oh, of course. >(((Ezekiel))) >(((Isaiah)))

Definitely not a guy with ulterior motives.

Was looking at the mystery egg variables, not much interests me, but I like Skelp and Spheal a fair bit, already got an Ice and Water type on my team, bit unsure what to go for here.

>>10358 Couldn't they just bring a pair from overseas? Does the brand exist in-universe? I'm actually waiting for some corpo IRL to make a species of something as a product and/or an ad. We had cloning for decades and that's before you get into eugenics, though the latter is just dog/horse breeding while I'm looking for something more like the Jurassic Park.

>>10363 No, you don't understand, Octavius HAS to come up with the most demented excuses possible as to why EVERY SINGLE POKEMON has to be autistically reworked to fit HIS VISION. >I'm just waiting for some corpo IRL to make a species of something as a product H-haha...............

I almost forgot, here's the region map. It's different than most we've played and almost looks more like a bing bing wahoo plumber overworld than a pokemon one. Got some stuff to do, so this'll be a break point.

Orevald. There's also the option of not taking the egg. Maybe it'll do something eventually. Maybe after the gym.

Though if you do end up deciding on getting the egg here. this is where all future mEggs are decided. the variable is set here not in character creation.

>>10367 >>10368 I guess I can wait til' after the gym.

>>10365 I don't know what that second thing is, but I'm talking about doing something like reviving the dinosaurs for a zoo specifically for commercial purposes. Or, if Hello Kitty exists as a brand in Empire, making that creatura to spread brand awareness. >>10366 Official Pokemon overworld isn't much different to this since gen 3, the in-game maps just have less detail and the biomes tend to scale less. Kanto was designed with urban expansion in mind and Johto is just Kanto with traditionalism because it's Kansai, but we tend to get generic volcano/ice area/desert/forest/marsh/whatever nearly every gen. >>10367 Did you see my post about missables in the previous thread? >>10301

You can come into this sidequest at level 70 btw

Taking a break to make dinner. >>10370 It's a supposed attempt at reviving dire wolves, even though it's just a genetics experiment to make bigger wolves, which don't actually share any ancestry or genetic material related to dire wolves, basically just a PR stunt. Realistically reviving dinosaurs with how sparse the genetic material present in fossils is.......well.....really out there given how fragmented and eroded it is from millions of years of decomposition, best thing you could do realistically is genetically alter a few birds to return their more basal Archosaurian traits, which would still cost a fortune and would probably be a nightmare to sequence and edit. Plus, creating genetic freaks with the sheer intent of keeping them in captivity for the rest of their pitiful unnatural existence is really fucked.

Just read it.I don't know if I'll be able to follow through with that feedback all the time. Some content that you miss in the game you'll simply have missed it. The battle with the dad, the information you get with Will during the Shuppet event, the special egg you get by not buying the egg in Mooncrest. These are all misseable. Though for the egg and Shuppet it just means they appear slightly later in the wild. I think it simply comes with exploring. I want backtracking to happen in a way where there's a lot that happens. whenever you get access to the start of the game again, there will be new quests, probably new items, many new things to do. exploration, missing, learning and maybe replaying ti try different things is how I'm working in the game.

>>10372 >Plus, creating genetic freaks with the sheer intent of keeping them in captivity for the rest of their pitiful unnatural existence is really fucked. That's the point, I'm curious enough to watch late stage capitalism pull it off because you know full well it's going to happen one way or another. >>10373 It depends on what exactly you miss out on. Personally, my autism and FOMO often make me look up a game's information to see if there's something that's permanently missable, and while I do backtrack when there's some obvious reason to backtrack (eg new HMs), I'd rather not miss something interesting just because I didn't backtrack somewhere far at an arbitrary point. See: Mirakle B fight in Colosseum, appearing at the end of an early game dungeon during midgame, having no indication of doing so and disappearing after the final boss. See also: a shit ton of stuff in Reborn, including character points that you can't ever make up for, and you can't even track them in-game. Missing some species is okayish as long as it appears later, same with items. Everything including TMs on SS Anne is gone if you don't get them in time and I don't think the game actually gives you a warning that it's about to set sail besides saying that the party is already over when you first enter it, so the player may have expectations of being able to get the optional stuff later, such as after running back to the PC to heal so you can take on the trainers in cabins, so if you didn't save before leaving then fuck you. Another example is the missable Master Ball hidden among Electrode in an optional room in RS, because the hideout arbitrarily closes after getting the next badge. Arbitrary and/or unpredictable behavior cutting things off is the worst as you can see in these examples. I saw you put an NPC hint for some of the stuff, but even that ended up being misinterpreted in this thread. Then there's choices creating arbitrary consequences down the road. Like in Reborn, Shiny Charm being available long after the choice that gave you no indication of Shiny Charm even being relevant, so if you made the wrong choice then fuck you, I don't even know if it's made available later. As a bonus, there really is no reason for it to be locked off even in-universe. No-reward battles and information may be less important missables, but it still punishes people invested in your story, so consider making those available later down the road. As an aside, for major character battles, it's nice to have some way to repeatedly rematch them, even if in post-game. I'm not against backtracking itself, but you should make it obvious when something is worthwhile to backtrack (eg new HM) or give the player a reason to notice new content in old areas, eg by making the player pass by for plot reasons or even in a different sidequest. Just try to limit on the amount of times the player has reason to backtrack a wide area, up to the entire region. And especially try to limit on missable stuff so that the player can play the game at their own pace.

gonna keep pronouncing it yo-ACK-e anyway

Feels oddly funny seeing this given what happened yesterday. >>10373 I think it's perfectly fine to make some missable events like the missable events with Corey and Sigmund in Reborn, so long as the rewards locked behind them aren't too important and can be made available later. Also, I think the reward for beating the dad should be made a bit better, albeit I imagine it will be more impactful later regardless. >>10374 >It's going to happen one way or another I think there was a genetical experiment from a while back where geneticists tried to create chicken embryos that had a mouth/muzzle similar to a dromeosaur aka a raptor rather than a beak, I haven't read up any papers regarding that in a long while, it might have gone somewhere. The issue is a lot of these are just PR stunts that go nowhere most of the time, ironically enough curing cancer would be infinitely simpler than creating a fully functional manmade Dromeosaur, in fact the basis for it has been known for decades, but it will never be followed through or done because it would bankrupt a dozen pharmaceutical companies that profit off your misery.

Fucking hell Whiteouts: probably like 260 https://streamable.com/7bkukk WHY did ALL of these faggots have to be bosses, kill yourself Fuck the 5th fight in particular for making me even THINK the sentence 'I miss LAWDS'

Sorry for disappearing for a while, work has been a very special kind of hell lately Did I miss anything while I was away?

>>10377 gg. lycanroc pulled through in that last one but I can imagine you'll relive these fights whenever you listen to orre's battle theme

>>10378 not a whole lot. pokemon flux and odyssey were alright, pokemon divulgence is worth playing, and some of us start playing modded empire

>>10380 Well might go play Odyssey another day then, think I am going to join in modded Empire tomorrow since I miss torturing myself and I never actually played Empire

Dunno what caused it, but I got this weird bug where after talking with Pierre his sprite didn't disappear. >>10377 >Each and everyone in the policefags on Mosely's quest was made into a retarded dogshit boss Cripes dude.......GG, that looked miserable as usual. >>10378 Welcome back bro. In terms of fangame stuff, there was- Odyssey's final version released, it was disappointing. We got a new rebornlike in Divulgence, it's pretty good, wouldn't recommend playing it the hard difficulty aka Over The Rainbow. Empire got a mod released for it and the lads jumped into it. RG is playing yet another hellish Rejuvenation mod. I guess there was Flux's new chapter too a while back. We got some news regarding Desolation a little while back, some good, some bad sadly. Tangentially related, Deltarune's new chapters released and in chapter 4 Kris/(You) rapes Noelle in the weird route, this is likely somehow getting referenced in Rejuvenation given how much Jan loves stealin- I mean taking inspiration from Deltarune, and also due to the fact he has a corruption fetish.

>>10381 here's the link to it https://drive.google.com/file/d/13BIi9dwMUeXp1HssCRv_JR55dfUJmg2Y/view?usp=sharing

>>10382 I already knew about the Deltarune stuff but if there is anything that Jan steals from chapters 3 and 4 is making a Necrozma fight that is totally not Dess >>10383 Thanks

>>10384 Kek, I saw the thread this popped up from in /vp/. Necrozma is available to the player via beating a superboss fight against Mr.Luck. I absolutely expect Jan to rip off the Roaring Knight fight or possibly even some other stuff like Gerson. We got a slight teaser from v14 and Venam is getting a redesign that is literally just Susie's dark world look.

>Air Slash hits twice >Gets a massive fucking power bonus from the field >Has basically a 75% chance to flinch whatever it hits WHY?! JUST. FUCKING. WHY?!

I am suddenly tempted to try my hand at drawing a Golden Experience based regional for Ledian, for no particular reason of course.

>i'll be out for a little bit >get dragged around the whole day and am now also slightly drunk well, that's my bad, but it looks like bread isn't too far into empire I just realized, bunken, but you played the version of empire where I removed all the puzzles, means you'll have the 'joy' of experiencing them this time, haha.. >>10378 welcome back bro, sorry to hear about work >>10377 GG >Fuck the 5th fight in particular for making me even THINK the sentence 'I miss LAWDS' kek at least this is a sidequest, I guess. and even though this is shit it's more effort than moto put into his own stuff I'm sure I'll be singing a different tune if/when I ever do this myself >>10387 this isn't terrible, I wonder what the requiem version would look like

>>10387 Bizarre already has a GE Ledian line if you just want the sprites

>>10388 they can't be as bad as dark lights

>Considers training my Dunsparce for Pierre's gym >Try changing it's ability from Rattled >Can't use ability capsule >Can't use dream misty >Dunsparce had every single one of it's abilities besides Rattle nuked >Can't even find this "change" noted in the changelog Okay............? >>10388 >>10389 Bizarre's take on it isn't bad honestly, I think I'll go a bit lighter on the inspiration so it isn't too obvious by also adding a star motif to the design.

>there is alt for speedup but also ctrl for turbo mode >turning both on is maximum overdrive

WAKU WAKU! I HEARD THIS EMPIRE GAME WAS REAL STRONG! SUGEEEEE I CAN'T WAIT TO FIGHT IT! I DON'T EVEN CARE IF I GET MINDBROKEN FROM THE SHITTY GAME DESIGN AGAIN! if i had any talent or dedication I would replace the protag's sprite as necessary, but whatever this game was BVILT for monotyping, so it feels wrong to not mono/dualtype. poison/ghost doesn't fit kakarot, but meh >>10390 they aren't, but it's like comparing putting your hand in an oven (empire) to putting it in an overheating nuclear reactor (dark light) >>10391 good luck for the gym. i don't remember if you're locked out of getting bibarel by this point, but he smashes it pretty easily

Whiteouts: 263 https://streamable.com/fuiajv I still remember the telluric sneed growth Comfey >>10379 >>10382 >>10388 Thanks bros >>10384 >Mr Luck gets retconned revamped out of existence so Jan can have a ebin Knigger boss Necrozma

this seems new >literally opens up a link to the fucking discord invite instead of just the online PBS page why would you do this >>10394 GG. i have a gut feeling that factory 12v12 boss with aya is going to suck hard

>>10394 gg

>"she" doesn't know >>10395 >>10396 Thanks bros >i have a gut feeling that factory 12v12 boss with aya is going to suck hard Considering how much level advantage shit has had for some reason...haha...

Oh, the modder gives you the necessary berries when talking to her again kek

ah yes, the 'common sense' of psychic being strong against electric or dark being supereffective against poison

no, octavius, i'm actually pretty sure it's specifically your type chart that makes no fucking sense well, that and jos louis's

>> this is actually good, thunder's 100% accuracy for some reason kek

>Can't leave the gym despite the fact I already beat every trainer >Don't get healed before the gym fight >The fucking path to the leader is filled with a bunch of overtuned bullshit including a Lycanroc regional that ouspeeds and oneshots everything >EVERY SINGLE ITEM IN MY BAG GOT DELETED FOR WHATEVER REASON SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH................................................. >>10393 The issue is every single fucking aspect of this gym sucks fucking dick, so even get my Bibarel up there wouldn't exactly work. >>10394 GG. With how much kaizosharties seethe about Luck's move contracts kek, wouldn't put it past that happening.

>>10399 Well see, Psychic > Electric because 5G activates the microchips in your vaccines and Dark > Poison is because black people use drugs more. It's yet more masterful political commentary by Octavius subtly integrated into the game mechanics, just like Toby Fox does.

oh my science, they're actually on my level >>10402 Thanks, that's how the gym works, fighting the gym leader is included in the gauntlet, and your items temporarily get removed in the gym

>The bullshit Lycanroc regional also has perfect coverage, just to make sure it will always knock out everything in your party I suddenly miss the meteornigger gauntlets from Yang. >>10404 I hate how neither the base game nor mods address you being able to beat this bitch, I always keep a bred Dolphan army with Ice Shard and Endeavor in my back pocket for this section. >That's how it works I gathered, I still fucking hate it though.

I remember being filtered by this for so long last time

ZAMN the modder added new outfits that I'll never even see outside of the first .2 seconds of battle? HOLY----! ...it's a nice feature, I just wish it didn't cost money which you have so fucking little of in this game >>10403 My MASTER Octavius-SAMA...I kneel....

debating whether to nickname this guy 'Pokemon Empire' >>10406 >you may actually end up liking empire more now that you're way better at battling kek. wonder how it'll stack up to OWD after you go through the puzzleshit though

Please, fucking change Pierre's gym gimmick, this shit is just fucking awful dude.

>>10409 if you haven't seen it there's a fountain in the upper part that heals your team back to full

>>10408 Do you even have enough characters in the name field?

>>10411 well, you can edit that in rpgmaker

>>10408 thanks, but the mon variety might just be better. the puzzles have to be really bad to be worse then the despair of seeing the title screen change

just as a note to ashime or anyone else who's unaware of this game's bullshit, there's a lot of sidequests that can't be unlocked later until you do earlygame quests like these that apparently have no relation for instance, you have to get all 3 pokemon for the kid on this bench (even if you don't want to) to do a huge questline that spans the whole game and potentially gets you very strong shit, nothing indicates this >>10413 h-haha..

>if you come back to this specific drawer in the gate near where the plane drops you off at the start of the game after you talk to elise, this guy appears who would know to do this? how would you ever find this? who knows i'm going to try and use as many fakemon as possible, I think, even though the edits to the 'real' mons basically make them fake anyways

>ai lets me use bonfire 3 times >golett uses high horsepower for even more speed >rolling stone the team away I will enjoy this while it lasts, rest in piece bozo. I think the ace trainer you can fight over and over uses her original team

>Archen doesn't have Defeatist >This means the player will never get access to it Besides that, relatively easy fight, grinded a ton of money to get candies to evolve my Noctowl, that and Tirtouga surprisingly pulled really hard for me, Carracosta has very quickly started to become one of my favorite mons in quite a few fangames. >>10410 I didn't notice that was there at all, thanks for pointing it out. >>10415 Speaking of this, there might be some extra shit in terms of available mons early on, it's hard to say since there's no documentation. >>10416 GG.

>>10417 thanks bro, and gg.

Whiteouts: 267 https://streamable.com/7dbsex Double field boosted hyper voice moment >>10416 >>10417 gg

got my team assembled, that's all I really wanted to do. i'm pretty tired, so I'll continue tomorrow >>10416 >>10417 >>10419 GG lads. almost at the end there now orevald, if you want to rejoin the 'fun'

>>10419 >>10420 thanks bros, and gg RG. I remember them having better names then Death Wings.

>DARKNESS has taken over the field VGH.........Desolation GODS........I miss Ayrith......... >>10418 >>10419 >>10420 Thanks bros and GG RG. I'm jumping back into Empire soon as well, not sure if tonight since I'm pretty tired.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, I DON'T WANNA XIE!!!!

>>10414 am I supposed to have them in my party or is he meant to fuck off

>>10424 You just find and catch them to progress the quest, then talk to the kid again.

all you have to do is find the mons, he disappears after you find the stufful

the other 5 have regular results, is it some weird bullshit type like what you see on glitch field? >>10425 >>10426 thanks bros

>>10427 i imagine the modder or octavius redid the hidden power code and accidentally made it so ??? is a possible type, it's probably effectively typeless like struggle

I find it funny how psychics/espers exist in the Pokemon world and have been shown to be able to teleport, yet almost not a single fangame remembers this and instead comes up with all kinds of weird spoopy powers to give to their villains, not sure my team is optimal for the last fight that's a head.

>>10429 Anime had the bullshittery with Sabrina's family but I don't think humans actually teleported without outside help like Pokemon or warp tiles in the games.

>>10429 >>10430 yeah, I dunno about that one. psychics in pokemon tend to be really weak (as they should be) reminds me of zumi comparing sabrina bending a spoon and having vague future reading powers to the glowy superhero bullshit rejuv degenerated into

And it's over for now. My feeling are mixed, mostly due to the bullshit difficulty on OTR, but otherwise it's a really solid start, the game looks gorgeous and I see a lot of room for improvement, I can definitely see this becoming a fantastic rebornlike with a lot more polish, I'm way too tired to make note of all my thoughts right now, so I'll leave most of what I have to say for whenever I wake up tomorrow, but I think my two biggest issues are how unbalanced and unfun some of the fields are and the lack of variety in wild encounters, most of my other issues can be entirely and squarely be put on OTR stuff, but I still need to make note that item spam on trainers and bullshit like guaranteed flinches on the floating island field, as well as forcing the player to fight under horrible disadvantages like fighting 2v3 fights is bullshit. If I had to give the game an arbitrary rating right now, it would probably be 7, I'd recommend it without a second thought and I do think it's alright, I do wish the story and characters were a bit more flashed out though, like most of us made note, barely any characters feel like they stand out much besides Bradley and Chopper and neither is around for too after the earlier sections of the game, Emily and Dad are just there and don't really do much to stand out sadly. >>10430 >>10431 It's kind of a mess, because psychics in Pokemon can teleport, but it's heralded as a rare power, Avery from the gen 8 DLC was a whiny bitch because he couldn't teleport like everyone else in his family. >Zumi's bullshit claim Sabrina uses ESP psychic powers, none of the shonen garbage in Rejuvenation compares, Melia isn't reading minds, using psychokinesis or doing a bunch of other stuff that is in line with what a psychic does.

>>10432 congrats bro and good review

I'm going to sleep, I feel dead tired. I'll join up on Empire tomorrow, I'm basically almost reaching Ellyria already, but with how slow I am, you lads will probably catch up soon. >>10433 Thanks bro.

>>10432 GG. Fair enough, didn't know that about Avery (though I never touched Gen 8 kek)

Say nigga Octavius. If Clover and Noon can, you can too. >>10378 Welcome back. >>10403 kek

It's a stupid touch, but I love how you can act like a complete nigger in people's houses. I hope at least one NPC reacts to it later.

Karenxisters...

>>10437 It does fuck with relationship values with some of the NPCs I think (don't worry, they're about as irrelevant as Reborn's). I know you can steal money from people's houses and that sends the police after you

>>10439 well now I shouldn't say that, some relationship values do somewhat matter for important rewards. but for the most part you don't need to worry, and especially not right now

Still searching for a battle background that isn't dogshit. >>10439 >>10440 Noted.

OH MY FAUCI

My neurons are activating.

This one gets its own post.

This mountain has a nice view...

I'm so glad I clicked into this thread before I went to bed >>10446 LMAO In the base game this is 'this is a book on the struggles of transgender people' and then it says 'all the pages are blank' of all the fucking things the modder changed

Hope you lads all had a good 4th of July. >>10447 Octavius keyed, modder locked.

>Randomized into Water/Ground That seems like a decent type combo, just really have to fear grass now >serene grace and air slash Guess I am going with the duck even if it says it's very hard mode

I can feel the dark calling of stall...

>>10420 >>10421 >>10422 Thanks bros >>10446 KEK

>>10435 Thanks bro. Kek, with how awful gen 8 is, to the point I genuinely regret having tried to pirate it, I can't say you missed out on it. People tend to forget Avery exists becaue Klara and her bullshit are more popular for pretty obvious reasons. >>10437 I think doing this upsets Elise and Ezrael, which are two of the few actually good characters in Empire. >>10446 WAIT, how did I miss this shit before? The modder actually changed it? Holy fucking kek. >>10450 Mud Bath singlehandedly makes one of the shittiest sections in Empire playable, sadly very few Pokemon get it.

>Was checking some stuff real quick via the coding to see if I missed anything so far >Stumble onto relationship variables >Despite not exactly bothering to please her Alanah has 9 relationship points with me due to me fucking her earlier Huh, I also just confirmed doing stupid shit around Polaris does indeed massively fuck your relationship with Elise, and she does give you some good stuff if you're on her good graces.

Empire really is fucking cursed, I barely got to the first route and my energy goes out for a bit >>10452 Good to know, might hold on to it then

the fuck >>>>>>No king's shield >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Body Press >>10454 kek

kek And for some reason, Aegislash comes prepackaged with a shit illegal ability, you can change it back via debug/macho brace

It seems I will need to weak this around here

>16 (XVI) (sixteen)+ level advantage >a bajillion trainer effects sigh

If this game's writing wasn't an insult, this scene could have been really cute. >>10454 >Plays Empire >Gets random power outages H-haha......so it isn't just me....... >>10458 It's sad to remember the days in which mid-battle effects were extremely rare in fangames, those were better days.

>The game is relentlessly spamming sleep nonstop to the point it would put Shitstones 2 to shame >I'm constantly being forced to abuse Spikes execution bullshit due to how awful these fights are Fuck's sake dude...........

>Nancy on Snowy Mountain >Chandelure is a fucking 6v12 on Back alley Chandelure really doesn't look that good bro

I had forgotten to save after I beat Rose last time, I'm gonna warn you lads, this fight was made so much more annoying in the mod. It doesn't look that different on principle, but the AI isn't as retarded anymore and Mismagius will one shot almost everything. All of this was made so much worse for me specifically due to Inkay getting nerfed to shit.

Keep this line in mind, because it will lead to one of the most retarded and downright insulting things you've ever seen in any form of media ever.

You can get a cute scene with Elise after the second gym, timing for it is really tight and not makes it clear you can come back to Polaris to see this. Damn shame contextually this scene basically boils down to a jew is exploiting a broken grieving woman for his own benefit. Also, you can access a new floor of the mine and a new quest in the ranger's corp. I think the rest of the lads know this, but new floors of the mine become available every chapter and there's so damn good stuff in those most of the time.

>>10462 >>10463 gg

Hmmm....

I have exactly 1 move that can hit this thing with the type chart changes. Surely this won't be a problem later haha...

Adam Might get two field changes, fun

Never mind, this nigger had a sash so my only recourse was to Swagger him and let him tap himself twice because he was 2 shotting my mons anyway. Whiteouts: 2 (+2)

Hmmm ^2

This guy says this and all but so far everyone in this game's dialogue is sort of wooden like they're an aspie. Is this an intentional writing quirk for this region like an accent or cultural thing or is this just how Octavius writes characters?

Why can't my character wife this chudette?

I think I just won the game after 4 (hard) resets. I assume it doesn't evolve ever thobeit.

at least this guy's rat brigade is optional. >>10476 gg

>>10466 Thanks bro. >>10470 >>10476 >>10477 GG. The modder reversed a dogshit change one of the Empire devs made to Shedinja, which was to nuke Wonder Guard as well as giving Shedinja 100 HP as compensation. >Ezrael I will always find it funny how much his new sprite reminds me of Morshu with the Tyrolean look. >>10472 This is how Octavius writes characters outside of a few rare exceptions, the dialogue is horrible and clunky, albeit pretty funny sometimes.

Naturally since this is both a blind playthrough and I'm making it a point to read everything and avoid as many missables as possible with (probably) excessive backtracking, I'm going to fall far behind all of you. So far I'm not minding the system changes too much, but some of the type chart changes are just retarded. Overall though I think there's more good changes than bad ones and it's clear he has some autistic vision of how he wants this to play rather than just hitting random buttons and levers for its own sake like a lot of fangames/romhacks do. >>10478 >>10477 Thanks bros. >I will always find it funny how much his new sprite reminds me of Morshu with the Tyrolean look. kekaroo >Writing Given the sheer volume of yap in this game, I can see why it'd be really offputting but it hasn't annoyed me personally yet. It's hard to really glean what the personalities are in these characters so far are though.

>Tadbulb is now a chapter 2 mon that can be caught by fishing near Calvera >Was made into a shitty mixed attacker and is now also randomly Electric/Fighting >>10479 If you need help, just ask, a lot of shit in this game makes absolutely no sense and is borderline impossible to figure out without guides. >The changes I think the biggest issue is that it's change for the sake of change, Octavius is extremely autistic and isn't content with the relative simplicity of Pokemon, a lot of the time with Empire it feels like I'm not even playing Pokemon. >The personalities I don't think even Octavius grasps it too well, I will not spoil shit that happens later, but the writing in this game gets really insulting.

>Iron Fist on a worm What. >Spectral Wisps synergizing with Bug Types What. >>10480 >If you need help, just ask Will do. >change for the sake of change I disagree with this from what I've seen; it's extremely autistic and borderline incomprehensible (let alone actually good) what he's trying to achieve with some of these, but it doesn't seem like truly patternless random changes. I'm willing to reserve judgment on how good/bad this entire equilibrium shift is until I see more of it in action but so far the gameplay's fun. >relative simplicity of Pokemon Neither was Reborn or any of its derivatives with the introduction of field effects with more text than the average yugioh card. This feels pretty on-point for this sub-genre of pokemon game so far.

Get bent faggot.

Picked up a few of these doing the zumi quest, this one in particular seems very useful right about now kek Wonder if this would let A-Milotic punch an icicle crash sized hole through the Guzzlord giganigger god, why does that fag have MM's fairy storm drain >>10477 >>10482 ggs

Speaking of extreme dosages of autism. >>10481 >The gameplay's fun I agree with that, I think the game until Elyria and possibly even a bit into Toliman it's okay, but it gets painful after that. >Neither was Reborn Fair, but Reborn's field effects were comprehensible and felt like they were meant to represent the terrain advantanges from the anime. I'm not gonna pretend they were all executed well, but fields in Empire follow the rule of things being utterly nonsensical and outright miserable.

She's kinda cute, please tell me I'm not being massively baited. >>10483 Thanks bro. >VoidSphere A sneed by any other name. >MM's fairy storm drain Something something tranny festering wound allegory.

r8/10 >>10484 Just looking at the field manual, some of these fields are fucking retarded, but the bulk of the core (global) system changes (barring a few type chart changes) so far I've seen seem decent enough.

>>10486 gg, pass/10

Whiteouts: 281 https://streamable.com/mzx2ny Fuck that Archeops

>>10488 GG and the spirit of Yakub lives on. >>10487 Thanks >pass/10 Oh no, I'm getting baited.

this might be the game that has the most "let's just check to see if you have THAT answer on you" battles not looking forward to torterra >>10488 gg. I watched the whole thing but I don't understand why he randomly decided to turn your pokemon into ground type

Alanah did nothing useful, but overleveled Scraggy can handle the whole fight by himself... or at least it would if her Chingling didn't confuse it and cause it to nearly kill itself. I really hope allies that intentionally sabotage you doesn't become a running trend in this game.

>>10486 Avoid/10. >>10488 >>10491 >>10492 GG. Speaking of Alanah, there's an INTERESTING event with her that's missable, it's at the second floor of the inn, apparently the mod made the outcome of a choice you can make there have an actual effect later.

I forgot how rough Delpha's movepool is kek, I'm sure it appreciates Delphox's +20 SpA bst buff thoughever >>10489 >>10491 >>10493 Thanks bros >I watched the whole thing but I don't understand why he randomly decided to turn your pokemon into ground type Desert's mark moment, I assume it's to btfo any would be SpDef tanks trying to survive via type advantage over Gilded Helix like I did with Kyurem-B I mean seriously, it just barely misses a 2hko on this bulky nigger kek

>>10492 gg.

>>10493 thanks bro

>Add a crafting mechanic to the game >Forgets to add the ingredients to craft shit, which effectively makes the mechanic pointless >>10494 I am suddenly given traumatic flashbacks of v13 intense ACKland.

ACKturnebros...Sucker PunchGODS...what the h*ck is this >>10497 Well, I'm probably fixing to face something even worse, haha...

This exploding nigger took far too many resets. >>10491 GG with whatever that was. >>10493 Noted. >>10498 Holy shit that is some high octane trannymod seethe.

>>10498 the sucker punch change is fine, no I'm not seething

>Octavius shitting on Insurgence's fakemon design >>10498 Holy fucking niggery.

>>10499 >>10500 >>10501 haha... Most of these have been like that for a while, but I just noticed the sucker punch change and figured I'd showcase the TRUE victim in the trannyseethe

How or even why?

>>10493 Was this in the original game? It seems like such a shitpost that's the result of a modder having an autism fit. Regardless, I stuck my dick in crazy and am prepared for the consequences.

>>10504 Oh no, this was very much in base Empire, it just really didn't go anywhere outside of Alanah having a "pregnant" switch turned on. The game makes a massive deal that it's been over 9 months during some of the later chapters, as well as there being some very unsubtle parenthood allegories and dialogue blurbs, but nothing comes of it in the base game.

>>10499 thanks bro

She seems nice. Please don't also be bait. >>10505 What does the mod make it do?

>Remove King's shield from Aegislash's learnset >AI has an Aegislash, it has King's shield >>>>>>>>When it uses it, it doesn't go back to shield forme lol

the man, the myth, the legend

I forgot that for whatever reason after you beat Rose this little dude randomly becomes available in the same cave you go to face the niggertree. >>10508 Elise is thankfully one of the few actually likeable characters. >What does the mod make it do? I have absolutely no fucking clue, Wagie alluded to it, I haven't seen anything yet.

Actual glow in the dark CIA nigger

>>10512 gg. that egg takes forever to hatch, even with both speedups on

Surely this has strings attached. >>10513 Surely this has even more strings attached than that...

>>10512 gg >>10514 haha...pseudos now require an item to get to their final evo, but in exchange, their first evos are way sooner

>>10513 >>10515 Thanks bros. >item Available at the ass end of the game I assume?

>>10512 GG. >>10516 H-HAHAHA......yes, as well as locked behind extremely esoteric means, RNG and an extra dosage of shooting yourself in the foot by being completely unable to save and reset for long periods of time.

AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE >>10516 haha...they only just became useable in 12.5 iirc, but you start getting them in E11*

autism All PULSE2tism, but in exchange, no extra trainer effects outside of reflect and T*ilwind

Ashime is gonna have a field day when he sees this scene in it's full depravity. >>10519 >Even the mod dev realized D*ep E*rth is complete dogshit

Checked out the new shit that unlocked when I beat Adam >>10268 More butterflyniggas, (notable) rewards include >Life orb >Covert Cloak >Eternatus > Of course, it's nerfed hard I want to do them, but at the same time I'm starting to feel Yang Meteornigger levels of fatigue form bossfags kek

Gods I fucking hate the Spike execution mechanic, and I'm the one abusing it. >>10521 I don't blame you, this shit's just awful.

Get the fuck down from there ya little tard.

I'm sure some fag is going to try and fuck me over with this at some point, surprised it hasn't already happened yet tbh

>Wander through cave in the dark >Run into these faggots with my team battered >Barely survive >>10520 That screencap is immensely jewish. I'm sure I will.

The resetathon for a good one begins. >>10521 >This is fine but Leech Sneed isn't

>Corsola is now randomly Grass type >>10525 GG, I got scared shitless by the level 30 nigga for a sec. You wanna hear the funniest part about that kike? The game wants you to like him.

>>10525 gg

Hmmmm. I'm noooticing. >>10527 >>10528 Thanks bros. Did I miss Flash or does the game really want you to nigger around in the dark like that? >Level 30 It took basically the combined efforts of my entire squad to put him down.

HMMMMM.

Post-(((revolution))) France being flooded with niggers and jeets. How did this game escape trannycord's chudwatch radar?

>effect spore triggers on ranged moves fuck

>North >Smart >Trustworthy Lmao. >>10529 No, the game very much wants you to stumble in the dark and get fucked. >>10531 Telius feels like a weird mix of Slav countries, a bit of southern Europe and Germany in certain areas, hard to say for sure though. The council are a bunch of bolsheviks and the two most proiminent members are part of (((the tribe))). >>10533 GG.

>>10533 gg

Huh.

>>10534 >>10535 Thanks bros. >No, the game very much wants you to stumble in the dark and get fucked. ebin design >Telius feels like a weird mix of Slav countries, a bit of southern Europe and Germany in certain areas, hard to say for sure though. I can see that culturally so far for sure. In terms of the circumstances of the (((war))) and all that regarding the populace being incited against the rightful monarchy, I do see a lot of parallels to France doe.

Nursing a bit of a hangover today lads, not sure how much or if I'll do anything at all kek >>10533 >>10488 >>10491 GG, sorry if I'm missing something >>10537 >>10534 This is a picture of one of the devs on how they meant to design each race/country in Empire and what culture they were based off of Though in practice a lot of the Yo'akis are just straight up niggers

I wonder why games who love bitching about slavery never tell you (((who))) owned pretty much every single slaving ship that brought nogs from Africa, or for that matter (((who))) made almost the entirety of slave owners in the Americas, or even the """"""""""""coincidence""""""""""""" of slave auctions typically being held in jewish holidays. >>10537 I definitely see it too, the people you're supposed to see as "heroes" from the war are a bunch of psychopaths and lunatics just like the ((("French"))) revolution. >>10538 Hope you get better soon bro. >That shitcord conversation I still don't buy this shit for even a second and Octavius' isn't fooling anyone with this crap. >>10539 Same.

>>10538 Thanks bro. Drink lots of water. >pic Interdasting. I don't see many of the resemblances, but I'm admittedly only at the start of the game.

Forgot to attach pic like a tard.

>>10538 hangover or side effects of dark light exposure? either way rest well

Can't outthink the Carbink... and whatever the hell this thing is.

>>10542 GG again. >>10544 Empire's own take on the Hitmons.

>>10541 >>10542 gg

I'll take a break for now before starting episode 2. >Healing went up 50% Octavius, you nigger. >>10545 >>10546 Thanks bros. >Hitmons Neat

Ah I see, pain is on the horizon