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/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General Anonymous 07/21/2025 (Mon) 05:55:11 Id: 87dbd9 No. 581612
Cute Bunnies Edition Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them. Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other. Image source: https://x.com/R_Enomoto_EN/status/1945492136742494376 VShojo is: Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570 Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo Related: /lig/ for extended + and former member discussion Previous thread >>563941
one last mouse for the night
rolling
rollan
Roll
>>581626 green thread
I miss her.
Rolling
Rolling
*inhales copium* froot will stream before the end of the month
>>581678 I think that's guaranteed, judging by her recent activity
>>581678 Wish hard enough and it may just come true. I will wish together with you.
rolling for nagi bringing froot back
>>581690 NOVA will save VShojo, not in numbers but with the power of unity.
Rolling
>>581696 Based and unity-pilled.
Fuck I need that music video to drop so more people can react and be in awe of my oshi ヾ(`ヘ´)ノ゙
Nagi live, GTW Hotaru at 7PM
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Think fast, pendejo!
Rolling
What is this Nagi form called?
>>581862 A masterpiece
Week's finally done. Is whatever was going on over now?
>>581867 thats peak baby form
>>581870 Hopefully
>>581870 Probably not.
Sonch time
>>581928 She's showing off Henya's tummy
Nagger is ultimate vshojo gamer. also rolling
this retard really need tts to remember her to do things. Purpe retard squad
>>581964 what kind of depression that cause you to forgot to eat for 2 days?
>>581976 she just hate herself
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Rollin
>>581976 a long life of practice I wish I could do that shit
Rolling for my wife
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>>582002 Moose tits color
>>581981 fair >>581993 with how underweight she is, yeah same. got me lose some weight
Don't look at twitter
>>581994 >mamanya stinky >hope soon >geega another rant >wife sleep haruka
>>582031 Sleep with wife Haruka
>>582028 You can't stop me.
Requesting Peke's NSFW art tag because I forgot what it was. Just posting Peke NSFW art also works
>>582056 lol, I've been staring at sloppa horrors so much it doesn't even register anymore
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I am dangerously low and need to refuel.
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1947310278619615592 sonch cooking when she wakes up in the morning
The Gamer of Vshojo did it.
>>582222 babymaxxing
>>582222 Nagi is gonna boast about it to Henya and I don't see her beating this DLC, she pretty much gave up after one stream.
>>582222 Atrioc the gooner?
>>582253 Nagi earned bragging rights
Hotaru done for the day, more P5X tomorrow.
>>582256 That's the one, although he took it on the chin, put his head down for half a year, and was forgiven by the actual people that mattered. Also put a sizable portion of his own fortune to lobby against deepfake shit and got a lot of stuff taken down, as well as tangentially helping vtubers deal with dox information online as a side effect of his efforts.
>>582405 Love your content atrioc
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Michi is the cutest.
>>582520 WE'RE SO BACK
>>582520 Yeah I think we're back
>>582520 nice, hope she has some musinc planned too i miss her covers
>>582520 Just do it already, its a perfect time to do so >inb4 she will return during Michi subathon or some shit
>>582529 Boo you suck boo go away
>>582522 Haruka streamed recently, Froot is planning to stream...it's close enough to being "back"
>>582535 Literally nothing is going on nowadays, what did I say wrong, mr. Big Chungus?
>>582541 We are back dude, your dooming is gay
>>582545 I'm not even dooming lol, just asking to stop dragging it
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>>582520 oh thank fuck the 12+ new notifs were about this, we're finally on the back track!
GIVE ME MY APEX COLLAB WITH NAGGER FROOT
>>582569 the only apex stream i'd actually look forward to
>>582574 >not enjoying the Apex streams wher Froot gets hella drunk and starts cusing like a sailor shameful
>>582559 Whatever dude
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Delinquent schedule
i wanna make an edit of that injection hope meme but idk which vshojo to use
>>582520 Is this a new hope? Does the healing begin? Is the dooming over?
>>582599 Would using Mouse for it be in poor taste?
>>582619 kek thats why i wasn't sure
>>582520 holy fuck, finally some good news.
>>582539 mouse seemed to be planning to stream until she realized her mixer was broken so i count that
>>582520 What do we think of the model? Do you think this is the rebrand Froot was talking about?
>>582651 could be but the hair color looks the same so guess we'll have to wait and see
>>582651 FroogNoir
>>582695 I hope this is the collab song together with Mouse.
>>582754 looks like its the cover of your idol from that kpop movie so probably
god we really need some new blood for these hours, it's completely dead
>Froot comes back >I'm selected for fucking jury duty Fuck.
>>582893 Thanks for sacrificing yourself so we can enjoy Froot
Sonch time
Mouse unironically /out/.
>>582920 Good for you, buddy.
@everyone Hello everyone, When you have a moment, please take the time to watch the following video from Mouse for a full and in-depth explanation of recent developments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwLbGcUMy6g ** Summary (TLDR):

** VShojo withheld an unspecified sum of money owed to Mouse, and half a million dollars raised during the subathon intended for the Immune Deficiency Foundation. As a result, Mouse has chosen to no longer be affiliated with VShojo.
 What this means moving forward:
 - Mouse retains full ownership of her IP and all related assets - Mouse continues to be represented by UTA - Mouse’s regular streaming schedule will remain unaffected - Mouse remains on good terms with all VShojo talent - Ongoing product releases (Birthday merch, Worm Daki, Gfuel collab, Goodsmile figure, MSI collab) are not impacted - The TwitchCon concert is still happening - All other upcoming projects and collaborations remain unchanged - Roxy will continue as Mouse's manager - The VShojo channel has been closed — alternative options are being reviewed - A new dedicated merch hub is now live: <https://ironmouse-merch.vercel.app/> - A new donation link to support the cause is available here: <https://tiltify.com/@ironmouse/ironmouse> We sincerely appreciate everyone’s patience and continued support during this transition. As always, we ask the community to remain respectful — harassment, witch hunting, or threats directed toward any individuals or entities involved will not be tolerated.
Its over
>>582926 ok, nvm.
>first time in my life i take a 15days vacation in another country >Michi subathon running the whole time life is cruel..
Oh my it is actually fucking over for vshojo
what the fuck
Welp, we're gonna need a new thread. fuck.
>>582945 can we run that one to conclusion and just bake /xvsj+/?
on the bright side kson is live i guess lmao just close the fucking company at this point what the actual fuck
It's so fucking over.
>>582926 Bruh connor unfollowing Vshojo and Gunrun makes so much sense now. Fuck that, man.
I feel bad for nova 😔
I mean, at least this is it. Final oof. There is no more oofenings beyond that. Vshojo will fall apart and we can move on.
>>582926 WELL... THAT EXPLAINS FUCKING A LOT. OOFFFFF
Man the NOVA girls breaks my heart
Holy shit. Who was doing blow with the funds lol, just had mouse’s video pop up on my YouTube. Still watching it right now
Someone save Michi i don't want her to be stranded in this shit anymore
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>>582926 i had to break my vacation from this thread for this holy fucking shit
Its over actually this time
>>582926 Well it ended up being worse case scenario huh. Fuck man. I really hope Henya and others get help because Vshojo likely will not survive this.
i felt all those "vshojo needs to come out and explain things" calls were a bit exaggerated but this ACTUALLY demands gunrun and vshojo as a whole to speak up. What the actual fuck.
This is actually the end. Now we all know why she was heartbroken, 500k stole.
>>582989 500k destined for the IDF, no less
Mouseshojo soon.
The fuck is this? I wasn’t expecting literal black company shit.
>>582987 Yep, and the likelihood of them have some counter that would clear them up is significantly low. It's 100% over now. I'm just worried about all the other talents.
>>582991 yeah that is a blow you don't recover from if you have no receipts
Vshojo is now on par with Niji. This is some real criminal ahit.
>>582926 Withholding from IDF is stupid, did whoever responsible think IDF wouldn’t speak up and reach out to mouse about the commited donos not arriving?? Anyways I’ll follow mouse, she hasn’t failed me so far.
Geega talking about it
also what the fuck, I know understand Zen, Geega leaving. But what did Mata do?
>>583015 ... She threatened to rat it all out knowing mata
i feel so bad for the NOVA girls and henya rn they're gonna get caught in the middle of a category 5 shitstorm
>>583019 she might've actually. That does track. Fuck man WHERE IS GUNRUN THAT FUCKING GOOK
>>583015 mata was terminated and we shall never know why, probably knowing her, and given what she said in a stream not too long ago, it might be something like what >>583019 says
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Well that's bad but apparently Ai is headed to Kson's house right now
>>583025 if company goes under - NDA is voided, and everyone can speak. That's why she was lawyering up maybe, she knew Mouse is going to come out
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ZETA Division please save my girl you're my only hope
Man... WHAT FUCK NOW?
Mouse discord down.
>take a nap >see this ...
We should also discuss what to call the new thread. We know we're gonna need it soon.
So it mouse the only one who spilled the beans? Wonder what vshojo did to the other girls if they can skim off the queen’s charity
>@everyone I just want to tell you guys i love you guys and thank you and I am sorry about this. I have not been able to stream at all because of this. This will be the longest break I have ever taken. I will try to emotionally and mentally prepare myself to come back soon. Thank you for being patient with me.
Well safe to say this might be the last Vshojo thread ever on here.
>>583056 the way geega has been speaking about it she decided to terminate her contract as soon as she learned about this
>>583056 Mouse probably has actual proof, others just inconclusive evidence or hearsay. That's why mouse came out swinging out of the gate
Plusses were rejected because of their associations with Ironmouse, and the other leavers who knew about this.
I'm thinking that we'll see people walk over this. I'll be surprised if we don't, honestly.
>>583054 Is there a /big/ here? I'll probably go there
>>583072 NOW ari saying she would NEVER join vshojo makes a lot of sense... FUCK
Kuro also removed VShojo mentions
geega's trying to skirt around a legal way of saying that she might've possibly been also fucked by them
>>583056 Mouse sent her money, subs, donos, etc., through Vshojo for anonyminity. I don't think the rest of them do it that way.
I'm guessing Michi is probably going out too and i'm happy about it
>>583079 https://x.com/K9_KURO/status/1947402580180799990 can an iphone user tell me what emoji is this kek
>>583079 Kuro needs to reevaluate what "cool awesome things" are.
>>583078 Im scared. What if Zen is somehow related to all this. Zen didn't stream today...
>>583079 Michi too
Damn it's unironically over.
>>583056 And with Mouse's connections to major streamers, no way in hell Vshojo is going to recover. They're going to shut down end of the month, calling it now.
>>583083 anon at this rate I'll be surprised if the company just doesn't dissolve
>>583087 geega wouldn't stay friendly to zen if that were the case, chill
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Well, vshojo finances were always kinda sus and fantastical. Now we finally know how the business model work, by stealing from mouse kek
>>583089 man they can easily just run away but nova is tied to the UMG deal... even if they wanted to, they can't just leave probably
vshojo is fucked as entity, talent are not going anywhere. Still it's really shitty whatever they did behind the scenes
>>583087 How? Like cmon man
>>583102 VshojoJP is hopefully separate from EN at this point
>Still has Vshojo in the twitter handle Froot Haruka Kson Mel Hime Henya <No Vshojo Mouse Ama Kuro Michi Also all of Nova?
>>583111 I hope so...
>>583113 >Also all of Nova? nova never had it in their names
>>583111 If it's this I hope they rebrand
>>583113 MAN AMA JUST JOINED KEK
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Jesus Christ, dude. Worst I experienced going forward was a couple members leaving without explaining much. Something like that would have been pretty harmful, but the company might have been able to go on, even if as shadow of what it was. This shit is WAAAAY worse. It's unironically over for them. Just hope the girls make it out alright, specially Nova who clearly still need some kind of support.
>>583092 bruh, vshojo has always been about the girls. Even if they “survive”, it’s meaningless. I’m following mouse out, unless Henya is staying then I’ll occasionally try to ignore the V while watching her
>>583125 I like this more. Leave and burn the building down on the way out.
>>583125 nah, this is best outcome. If company is rotten enough to siphon money from charity - it should burn and set everyone free and let them speak
BLINK, GONE
>>583125 *I expected
>>583125 Not even the biggest antis would have expected Vshojo to keep charity money for themselves. That's fucked and I really wonder what Gunrun is thinking.
I am weirdly calm right now
Well, are you happy now faggot asking for answers the last 2 weeks? KEK
>>583141 Seriously. Charity money. Fucking charity money.
>>583147 it's the finall killshot, no more vagueposting the vagueness was the worst part of the past weeks, so this is actually quite tame in comparisson
>>583141 Antis are retarded, they double down defending their org. I know I’m not gonna be defending vshojo lol
>>583152 Yes. Unironically yes.
>>583147 the cat's finally out of the bag. We've been getting our balls slowly crushed by this big bad event that never seemed to come, but it has finally come. You feel release.
>>583147 i'm actually happy we left the limbo where everything was behind the scenes, now we know it's over and no more need to think about it
>>583147 kinda the same for me But my heart broke a little for the novas I know they'll be fine at the end but still
Yeah btw Mel moved to Japan huh
>>583147 Same, weirdly enough. I know my oshi wil keep streaming through it either way, so i will follow her wherever.
Gunrun running for the IRS because he technically commit tax evasion
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>>583171 this is like completionist 2.0, actually
I want to watch the video but I don't know if I can deal with this right now.
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>>583170 i wish i could feel the same
Mata pinged discord saying she will be away for a time because mouse video... Well, i guess we now know WHY she insisted so much in saying she was fired.
>>583174 it's weird that I know 2 wholesome chungus people who ended up commiting tax fraud
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>>583176 Hopefully this is part of the reason the vshojo nova account was made in the first place pekebro, i hope whatever happens they remain close.
>>583128 Henya is gone. No way in hell she stays.
>>583175 weirdly enough it was comforting for me... Knowing she is taking care of herself and hearing her voice even if it's a bad thing.
>>583188 Can loutlot be trusted? What if he takes nova out and rebrand only for JPs
>>583210 I'd be happy with that, he seems to be doing good so far. Obviously you can never tell what's going on behind the scenes, but the girls seem to like him.
>>583225 but can you trust a stografag hmmm?
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>Get home from wage slaving. >Saw Froot finally teasing a return >Get excited >See what happened with Mouse and vshojo Fucking hell..
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>>583195 my hubris.... i was so sure the girls would be safe from all this...
>>583236 nevermind, burn it to the ground.
>>583241 I still think they'll land on their feet, but only time will tell. Only thing we can do is to support them really.
Ok, I know it's all recent but can we come out with a new name? No more vsj+ after this one please.
I'm hoping Univolt starting a separate channel and twitter means loutlot actually asved them from vshojo and he wasn't involved with this black company shit
>>583263 /xvsj/ + /vsjp/ for now maybe?
>>583147 Same honestly, I feel more calm than when Zen left, I just don't care anymore, I expect pretty much everyone else to leave at this point, if it means no more vague doomposting bullshit and everyone being happier then so be it. I'm still gonna watch them and still hang out in this general.
So uh, when does Hime walk?
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>>583263 /uni+/ - Univolt+ General >>583264 Yeah, nova coming up with the new name (univolt), the UMG deal being very specific to nova, and separating the socials kind of starts to make sense
So... not a single corporation turned out to be good huh
>>583291 never trust the men in the suits
>>583276 She’ll find out about this in a couple months. >what, mouse left? >wait vshojo is gone?
>>583294 I mean in hindsight "no shit" right but wow dude
>>583263 I'm gonna be honest with you chief, I don't think it's gonna work.
>>583263 Mouse+
Poor Novas but also poor Amalee. What a situation to walk into.
>>583343 man ama's even worse: she came in specifically for vshojo to help her with a whole ass glazing with it, only for this to happen. At least nova lives in the loutlot bubble, which given the situation i wouldn't even throw my hands into lukewarm water for...
Bruh, I just remembered Aethel mention it would take him 500k to join vshojo. Jfc that guy KEK
>>583355 I'm trying to find the clip.
what the FUCK my dudes haven't scrolled up yet to threadread but it explains a fuck of a lot. stealing charity money is the lowest of the low, like that's actually worse than ripping off the girls when it comes to merch funds or something
man i just feel bad for mouse, she can't get a break. God made her character and decided that every roll below 5 is critical failure.
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With waifu jam, I remember the lyric something like vshojo till I fucking die kek. I has the passing thought of ‘what a stupid move’, keep it mouse only.. surely it won’t bite you in the ass later, but maybe I’m a cynical asshole and she just have that much faith in the company… anyways
>>583343 I'm guessing everyone will switch to UTA now
Mouse's subathon really did kill VShojo. I always had a bad feeling about the way it was handled, but thought it'd just be an error or something. Feel very bad for Mouse, because everyone is going to dig into her past and I can't really blame them for that.
>>583367 don't worry, according to mouse - they did both
>>583355 It was funny, but I think it's just a coincidence. He was just throwing out absurd numbers. And it is an absurd amount of money to try to steal.
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>>583355 this means pink love lives behind the scenes
>>583416 Could be, but he specifically said 500k, so...
lmao
>>583416 feelsbadman, so mouse still talks to Aethel. I wonder why nyan ditched her copper cat
>>583427 DUDE... What a time to make a return
>>583410 oh no I haven't watched her vid yet. oh no this is fucking insane and the last thing I expected. I'm glad the talents are all blameless I think a few of us had a feeling that froot and haruka making moves to come back was a sign that the company may be collapsing because they know they can't rely on it for merch income in the future
>>583427 >>583441 >>583447 my rrat is that she knew, so she went on hiatus until her contract expires to not feed this black company shit
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just visiting to check in on you guys hope everything turns out alright for the chuubas
>>583452 from the timing side, I think it’s because of her google dockey. People still love to spin it and harass her, reigniting antis and shined a spotlight on her
>>583452 that's completely believable and I subscribe to it
>>583466 it was also just after mouse's subathon, which money were taken from if I recall correctly. I just want to believe that talents are good people I guess, even if company seems to be shit
>>583465 It should mostly be fine, everyone owns their IP afterall, only Nova is potentially fucked by this. I sure hope not.
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so, Henya finally joining phase?
shondo replying mouse... What a crazy world we are living in
watching Cyyu, maybe he will spill something about Ama side of things
I've seen a couple of the generals for small corps going through it when their copro was going up in flames and shutting down. Never thought I would see the day fucking we'd be going through it with vshojo. The solace is that at least the girls will still be themselves at the end of the day
>>583499 killyourself
>>581619 Foreshadowing...
tricky donataed 2k and camila 500$ for the charity
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wait, i have a question... WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO MY MELODY GFUEL SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>583524 FUCK YOU AND ME KEK
>>583427 Heh yeah, bad timing for everyone concerned >>583447 >I'm glad the talents are all blameless That's the main reason why I don't care as much as all the previous stuff, that was always part of the plan, if VShojo itself turns to shit then that's on them, all the members can leave safely >>583465 They all own their IP and all the money they make through Twitch and Youtube still goes directly to them, they will be fine, they'll just need help with management
i'm trying to listening to geega because she actually talks about this stuff but she's soboring to me i can't stay focused on what she says..
>>583528 merch will probably be okay was they are handled by gfuel itself ?
>>583532 >all the members can leave safely we don't know the extent of the UMG deal Nova has. If it's with them as a group/individuals yes they can leave, but if it's with vshojo itself, well they won't be able to leave as easily
now that i think about it i would've expected Vshojo to have a statement prepared for this, they are still silent not even mentioning mouse leaving the company like they usually do, not like they can save this shitshow anyway
>>583497 I don't think VShojo is involved in their contracts with UMG
>>583534 understandable. I don’t even bother to tune in even though I’m slightly curious about the situation.
Henya taking a break.
>>583543 If they're silent it's because saying anything would absolutely tank them in a court of law.
man I really want Gunrun to try and put out a defense not that I think I would believe it but I want some hint of how this happened and what changed since from Mouses video it doesn't seem like this is just something they were always doing. I may have misunderstood but it sounded like it just happened in the latest subathon and not the previous ones.
>>583536 >>583544 Yeah i'm just making assumptions here, it sucks for them but at least VShojo can't touch their streaming money
Hey, Froot! So, while you were gone... https://x.com/LichVtuber/status/1947418272758173994
Henya taking day off and don't know when will return... YEAP
>>583543 probably no one left after this one. Tax evasion is really really bad. IRS will rape gunrun
>>583501 (me) yeah it was nothingburger, he is just saying that NDAs are a thing, don't put it on talent, and that Vshojo has been murky for some time already (that last part was weird)
>>583551 How long a break are we talking here? Here i thought things are looking up again after her loss and she showing up to peak collab laughing so hard
good timing
>>583581 losing brother and vshojo stealing them... Who knows how much merch money was take under wraps.
>>583588 Another California girls situation.
>>583588 I guess it really proves she was off and no one knew about her these past months.
I told you motherfuckers. I TOLD YOU
>>583499 That would be sad as fuck but I think Henya needs management. I just hope Loutlot will form his own group.
>>583576 well JP says a little rest, she’ll be back. Just gotta let her process things.
>>583588 I imagine given everything Froot was dealing with likely herself she was the last person Mouse was going to talk about this with. Really unfortunate timing for this though.
Kson said something? I was watching her stream but i zoned out...
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im glad peke is not even streaming until next week, like sure dramafiends and people detached from vshojo as a whole don't even know nova exists, but peke has a 0 percent chance of getting some idiot asking her shit not that she would get any of it anyways
>>583595 Geega literally said the opposite earlier, she talking with Froot a lot. So did Saiiren per Froot's Discord posts.
>>583596 Who posted this one? >Gunrun: call an ambulance! Call an ambulance! But not for me!
>>583605 did geega say that they'd been talking about this specifically though? it's clearly been kept as quiet as possible
I have so many questions: Whoever in VShojo managed Mouse's finances (Gunrun?), What made them think they would be able to get away with what they did? Why did they do it? was it really just greed? Mouse made the video, it means they refused to pay up. The only thing I can think of is that they couldn't pay (not that it justifies stealing from her AND fucking charity of all things), because the alternate explanation is really fucked up. Man, if I feel betrayed, I can't even begin to imagine how does Mouse feel. I love the pink rat and it kills me inside that I can't do anything about it.
>>583613 based hope she actually stops giving a fuck and starts putting retards in their place
>>583617 no, geega said the opposite actually, they've been talking about other things, not the whole mouse issue
>>583613 as them twitter kids say pop off queeen or something
>>583619 I also think they genuinely couldn't pay her back, stealing for no reason from someone who prints money makes no sense because of course they wouldn't get away with it
Man this shit is LSF of all places.
>>583613 holy bazed
>>583619 It has to be a situation of people using the money with the assumption they would make it back to pay later. The only thing that makes any sense to me.
>>583628 saw this on "reddit" I think it is too early to say this is Gunrun's fault. Unless he was directly responsible for the accounting then it could easily have been someone else embezzling money. It is usually people hired later that ruin everything. Vshojo started so great it is hard to imagine Gunrun had any hand in the current situation other than not being on top of whatever caused this.
guess i can stop suffering through this geega stream, the self glazing started
>>583631 the most worthless subreddit, LSF will just make this about hasan somehow. god knows how but they always do
>>583631 lsf is /vt/ but for fleshies, somehow it's even worse kek
GEEGA said that Mata's situation there wasn't anything wrong with it, Mata has always kept it to herself and that's good. People assume too much negative things about her, and that people you should support her. Apologize
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>>583619 just got to do the usual, keep supporting the rat. Fuck her antis, and I’m glad she stood up for herself
>>583613 Beat his ass, froot!
>>583613 Based but I hope she doesn't waste her time replying to all of these lying parasites >>583631 A lot of vshojo antis (dramafags) post there so i'm not surprised
>>583668 to be fair they are being very "normal" about it, the vt material is being downvoted to hell tough
>>583613 I'm proud of her, she came out a lot stronger from he hiatus
Just heard the news, i'm so sorry bros. Hoping JP isn't affected by this
>>583686 thanks anon, we hope so too
>>583686 Nova will likely be spun off into Univolt. Univolt will be the new "Vshojo" with Nova being Gen 0.
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midget love
DUDE it now makes so much sense why people like limes and grimi fucked off to mythic. DUDE WHAT FUCKING SHITSHOW!
>>583708 Also... Mei was indeed cursed with knowledge. Imagine knowing about this for months and having to keep it quiet.
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Kinda saw this coming when that Mouse+Kson concert had no Vshojo branding
He has to say something
So I guess Haruka won't be streaming the Pokemon Presents tomorrow?
>>583708 >>583715 limes might have known from mata but mei is unlikely and grimmi definately didn't, even froot didn't know and she was in contact with a few members recently
>>583715 like what, mouse was talking and asking around but too scared to confront management on why IDF wasn’t receiving donos? So auditions tanked?
>>583733 everything about auditions makes sense now. I'm sure whoever was picked was informed by probably roxy what was going on so they dipped. I'm so glad mouse has roxy though I'm sure she's suffering with how swamped she is even without this shit
Peace has been achieved.
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>>583730 anon, she’s never gonna stream…
>>583740 okay now this is still a mystery, give me your rrats why zen has unfollowed because I can't figure it out
>>583740 This leads credence to the block theory. Zen is following Mouse, but Mouse isn't following Zen.
>>583740 the timing of zen follows and unfollows feels so weird seems like a pr follow but whatever that rrat is kinda irrelevant now
I guess we'll never see the results of the auditions, I would've liked to see the circle grow bigger before everything goes to shit, it would've sucked for the new members but at least they would've kept all of their stuff if they decided to leave immediately afterward, I don't think we'll see any new +s in a while... >>583729 kek
>>583746 > give me your rrats why zen has unfollowed because I can't figure it out it really is very simple: zenhera outburst
>>583698 Tourist here Is Henya shit out of luck? She got the new model when she joined VShojo so do they own it?
Amalee removed vshojo mention too, there was one in her bio
>>583740 So many baits and nonstop rrating just for this, even here, i'm glad I skipped most of it
>>583762 No, all talent IP is owned by the talents. She'll be Henya as long as she wants. Nazuna kept hers, Mata kept hers.
>>583762 vshojo owns jack shit when it comes to the talents, that's why the brave buyout rrat proctor and his retards were parroting didn't make sense: vshojo has nothing of its own
>>583762 Everything belongs to her, this part hasn't changed
>>583715 >>583732 Mei has been talking about being cursed with knowledge for months. I am assuming she knew something.
>>583762 No, they all own their IPs, they just have to worry about management.
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That’s fast, geega’s plus already react Andyed for mouse’s video
>>583746 Zen was mad about the ER collab and kept overthinking about it Bursted out to Mouse (who was probably at the time going to quit without a proper reason) Got probably ignored or rejected of said conversation Assumed the worst Went out of her way to not see Mouse anymore See what was the reason <"Oh fuck, am I the asshole?" Probably calms herself out, and sympathizes with Mouse.
>>583768 >>583769 >>583770 >>583775 Oh okay I wasn't sure since she had to abandon her old model and come back as Henya Did Vshojo give her the model? Or did she personally buy it and then join?
>>583762 No Henya will keep her IP, regardless of what happens from now. Hopefully VshojoJP turns into it's own thing. >>583708 They didn't pass the auditions but, in retrospect they were lucky.
>>583781 Vshojo sponsored it, but she owns model and IP. I think only mascots for some reason are not owned by talent
>>583781 we don't have the specirfics but it's probably like they funded it and made the investment back on debut merch revenue and pocketing part her money perhaps, kek
>>583787 >mamanya stealing money meme suddenly not as funny anymore
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Ok this one is pretty funny, and yes I stole it. They will get so much worse
Keep an eye on the GeeX+ talent page from now on.
>>583789 I remember when Fatamee jokes died overnight.
Hotaru schedule, P5X (into P5R maybe) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6EJ7hwvCCsE
>>583797 They're such scumbags
Some info on Froot on what she's been doing the past months and what she plans ahead
You know, now that its out of the bag, I've noticed Henya stopped introducing herself as "I'm Henya the Genius from VShojo" for quite some time now, I get why now.
dokibird with the big dick swing
>>583839 I'm very glad she's been unplugged, best way to restore mental health
>>583839 >Froot genuinely didn't know any of this Holy shit.
>>583839 glad for her having a true detox, but man these past few months must be something to get back into...
>>583849 yeah, the timing on her return really was just that bad lmao
>>583847 indies stick together ........... mouse is an indie now. that might take a while to kick in mentally. also damn she's got a lot of assets to remove branding on
>>583839 jesus
>>583846 it’s not that deep, everything is cortical damage from long covid. She watches the same Japan video like 6 times without remembering dude
I guess the saying is true, "where there's smoke, there's fire". I guess all of our doomposting wasn't wrong when we were wondering why people and staff were leaving left and right. Alothoug, I still think geega's content and gta autism sucks.
>>583839 wait, is this why Katie was pissed? that she, like veryone else, was cut off from talking to Froot online?
>>583853 So... Hostile takeover of /big/?
>>583859 But she did that for years, every single raid she said the same phrase.
>>583862 yeah my feelings didn't really change towards talent who left >>583865 now that would make sense
>>583865 But Katie had the MOST contact with Froot. Like they were physically in the same location. They shared a fucking bed. Possibly fucking in the bed.
>>583869 i subscribe to the henya brain rot (real) theory
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Call me Garfield because boy do i fucking hate Mondays now
AMALIVE
>>583876 yeah, in the first few months, but after that? all quite and silence
amalive don't think she's gonna say much looking at her title but if she does please share, i already watched too much whitewoman hag drama talk today
oof just realized that legal shit will probably be a lot less safe for mouse now, I hope she's got a good proxy and system that's able to keep her name as private as possible. and all this shit during her dad jesus fuck
>>583895 if you think she's not joining geex in a few months max you are delusional
>>583865 Probably, but the wording from two sides tell different stories, Froot wanted time for herself and distanced from everyone, Katie still was close to break through that, Froot eventually had to say something, maybe came out wrong or went unsaid, Katie assumed the worse and friendship ended right there.
THE TAROT CARDS.
>>583899 I'm sure she is (connor being on the board, coincidence or long term planning?) but this could be a pretty serious court case and you never know
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>>583908 it all comes back to the fucking tarot reading
>>583908 Light those fuckers on fire already
i came up with a rrat "events timeline". It's early 2025 everything is good. Mouse receive calls of her accountant saying there is something wrong with her numbers and she need to talk with her boss, soon they found out about the "scheme". Mouse gets confused and overwhelmed and tries to talk with the people she knows to have more experience mata and geega. Don't know who she talked to first but at some point mata probably got very pissed ( knowing about how she was screwed over multiple times) an clashed with management. Someone got tired of her and had the brilliant idea of fire her. Now they cant hide it anymore and talents start to hear about vshojo taking some of their money off books. Zen has a zenhera, eat the space cookies and talk about leaving vshojo, Geega start her preparations to jump ship and mouse tries to no avail fix the things. I think the tariffs was the final nail, it's common for companies to withheld some money when they know the cash will flow but tariffs broken them... And we are here.
>>583893 Doesn't look like she'll be saying much for now
>>583944 She asked GEEGA if it was ok to stream
>I'm not gonna comment on anything well there ya go
>>582606 foreshadowing...
>>583940 rrat from ex about Mata >ran merch through Bricky >supposedly it meant Bricky shared money with Vshojo for their cut before Mata got hers from Vshojo >numbers didn't add up and she was pissed >got fired with an NDA, starts lawyering up to see how to circumvent that
>>583899 Oh yeah Ari also joined them recently >>583944 >>583958 Good, I don't see Ama being an expert in legal matters like this, especially if she just learned about it today, I hope she blocks TTS as well in that case
>>583969 That is good point too
>>583969 If real, or something close to it I'm seriously mad at what they did with the leftover merch, it was such a spit on the face to her.
>>583990 They couldn't afford to do anything else.
Wonder what Falsecord is up to.
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>>584007 reading this thread
Wonder how much mouse lost, do you think it was a whole million? She probably broke vtuber records again
good news, hopefully she draws more
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1947440778000867759 sounds like mel also found out just now
>>584015 ludwig lost like 3 millions fromhis org not paying him, mouse is very likely in the millions
>>584015 Considering everything she would make went through Vshojo, probably a shit load. Just imagine how much they could possibly be skimming. Not just money to the immunodeficiency foundation, but money that could be used to assist her father. Really think about what they've done here.
>>584028 >I lost more millions than you'll ever make He was so fucking cold with that line.
>>584039 sadly he also was right
>>584039 it was such a good line he abused it until it bvecame stale kek
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>>583291 there is one
>>584028 shit, imagine how many jars of plasma that can buy…
https://x.com/memu6ta/status/1947441788538785831 in better news, peke's friends are free from the gta event, it's over you can be sure they're going back to the league mines of course did you expect anything else
>>584054 look i don't wanna insult the landlord buuuuuut
>>584054 Nah, that one is a ticking time bomb that the talents are trying to stall for as long as possible
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Are we fucking serious right now? I grab my phone between sets and see this?
>>584054 so indie it is, got it
>>584063 i mean ironmouse is the normie's vtuber, everyone of these lsf fiend content creators are going to milk this shit
>>584054 They literally stole a talents IP. Shut the fuck up Phasecuck.
>>584063 >>584068 didn't mouse collabed with him? It was expected. Mouse has a lot more clout than she believe
>>584054 No dude
>>584074 Collabed and had him on the latest (only?) SOTD of 2025.
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ok geeg ended her yapping, and ama's not going to say anything man i wanted to come back to this thread when peke came back from her vacations but the midnight clock ticked fuck you gunrun you will pay (financially and methaporically)
i feel better now knowing what was happening but at same time i want to headpat rat and say it's all be okay...
I just want everyone to be ok
>>584107 everything will be okay with girls anon. Gunrun is cooked though
>>584107 Once the lawsuit is handled, the healing can begin. Zen already followed Mouse back, so it's the little things now.
>>584111 ENs, Kson and Henya, sure but Nova though? I'm worried for them
>>584114 Nova will be fine. Loutlot will spin them off.
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>>584114 I trust this nerd
>>584121 i think he works best when we don't believe in him
>>584121 inb4 loutlot flashed her penis to peke
>>584054 >full of doxxfags, dramafags, and antis no thanks >>584063 Why are you surprised? of course all the drama channels are going to farm this
>>584135 no that was peke flashing her benis to k4sen
watching mouse video again... We are glossing over a lot of things mouse said and only focusing about the money. https://youtu.be/MwLbGcUMy6g?feature=shared&t=266 4:26... Shit sounds bad.
>>581870 kek >>581619 kek(x2) Sorry friends, for what it's worth
>>584153 this is literally the exact same thing anycolor told michi to get her to stay
well, she took it off too
>>583147 About that...
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Oh, shit.
>>584170 >>584121 Wrong post
>>584173 Uhhh what
>>584173 Fuck man it never ends.
>>583967 I'm sorry...
>>584173 PLEASE STOP IT'S ALREADY DEAD PLEASE
>>584173 this has to be (one of) the holo guy right
>>584173 do we know all the staff members tha joiend last year?
>>584191 yeah that guy who came from cover, fits perfectly with kaho's description.
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Fr/out/. Dropped the Vshojo.
>>584199 hen/in/a
>>584188 It's very vague but I do remember discussions about an infamous/incompetent JP guy from Cover joining VShojo
>>584208 Could be
I just saw a tweet talking about how it took them two months to get paid by vshojo and I was also paid late... totally forgot about it until now. I fully trust the person I was speaking to and the way they talked it was something going wrong in accounting. I don't want to be more specific for privacy but this was never an issue until last year.
>>584208 That's what the ex is speculating on. I do remember holo viewers coming over and while some made sloppy seconds jabs, some were warning us about his behavior.
Seems like VShojo woke up and removed Mouse from twitch team and twitter
>>584225 thanks for the input akagi
>>584229 It only took them several hours to do the bare minimum. Personal record right there!
>>584229 5PM PST. End of business day, just like the rest.
>>584070 huh since when, aren’t they also doing keep IP shit with invaders?
>>584206 Praying for VshojoJP to bubble themselves out of Vshojo.
>vaguetweet >4xvsj instantly becomes unbearable Gee, thanks. I guess.
>>584235 Not her, I wonder how many of us are out there though. Sorry I can't add too much detail I don't want them knowing I go here.
>>584243 you only have yourself to blame.
>>584243 your fault for being in half
>>584212 AAAA fuck fuck fuck, protect Novas
>>584244 understandable, i was just jesting because akagi is the first long term contracted artist i think of haha
so uh, didn't maiko go to japan recently? did he work for any other corpo previously?
>>584243 What were you expecting from that shithole?
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>>584251 I will find where that faggot lives, should he do so much as hurt one of peke's hairstrands
>>584259 More shitting on the company but the baiters are overtaking
Also Mouse unfollowed Gunrun, oof
>>584243 don't bring them here thank u
>>584264 took it sweet as time... I really found strange gunrun not being around during the boat tour. He was always there for mouse even during IDF events. FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>584255 Maiko shared Mouse's tiltify link, don't randomly start accusing people, that guy >>584208 could also be unrelated for all we know
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>>584274 to think last time i was here we were casting the doomers off and it was worse, way worse than whatever they were dooming about
>>584277 I didn't accuse him, I legit don't remember if he had a background before joining V. I do remember he was vacationing in Japan recently though
i love kaho but tweets like that are so dangerous, puts a target on many very likely innocent people, i hate that kind of vaguepost
>>584289 Based
>>584289 nl coded tweet
Vshojo office right now. (This also explains no minecraft server kek :( )
>>584289 Based
>>584299 they pocketed the minecraft server budget
>>584289 Fucking love this man.
>>584255 Maiko was doomposting just like Panini, and he genuinely tried hard for Michi so he gets a pass from me. If he was compromised, it’s unironically over since he has access to everything Michi. I would say it’s a 0% chance but Sinder and Vshojo genuinely caught me by surprise this year. Mewtendo was the first to leave anyways.
how the fuck no one noticed most of new mouse merchs have no vshojo emblem on it but hers?
>>584289 His Plants vs. Zombies stream yesterday was nuts, I wonder if he wanted to pick something goofy and fun on purpose to get one last good vibe for a while.
>>584313 Maiko controls Michi's finances specifically. That whole thing was weird, I had never realized the company had access to their funds before that.
Dudes, I've been baking this thread for the past few months, I have no idea how to approach this thread moving forward, this is truly over for them. Any ideas?
>>584318 Maybe. He also said he had planned to stream today too though not sure when. That will be interesting.
>>584322 call os xvsj+ just like half did... Nothing changes for now.
>>584322 Just keep baking as normal for now I guess. We can change it to ex-vshojo if we need to.
For those that missed the geegxplanation https://youtu.be/jsv0U6cTiHw
>>584325 You will invite shitposters who left in 2023
>>584331 silverschizo was already banned here.
>>584322 /vshygddtj/
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>>584060 if you have something to say just say it >>584061 picrelated >>584070 >stolen "literally" signed it away on a contract, willingly
>>584319 I'm sure it's voluntary per talent and Michi understandably trusted the company 100% and I'm sure still trusts Maiko. But yeah you send invoices to and are paid by VShojo, not individual talents, so when it comes to contractors the accounting department sees almost everything.
>>584313 Kaho tweet is just vague garbage that left out she met him in US, Maiko wasn't in other corpos before being contacted by Panini, and I guess this was all very recent. Recent VshojoEN hires are more likely, they had a few late last year or early this year.
>>584347 We are back just not how we thought we would be back. Hoping for Pink Love next
>>584333 And it's a ban on discussion of her specifically, not former talents. So theyre not an issue we need to deal with on this board.
>>584356 yeah, it's just a question of reporting them or ignore id. Easy
>>584173 Take everything this whore says with a big grain of salt and skepticism
>>584369 How convenient it was you reminded me I could do that
>>584241 Invaders all have individually negotiated contracts IIRC
Crazy the company hasn't said anything yet. I guess Mouse sprung the announcement on them?
>>584351 It didn't seem vague to me, there's so few people Kaho could be talking about. These problems are relatively recent and so was the hiring of the person, Gun isn't blameless because it's his responsibility but what she described is the same kind of shitty business bro who would steal money and pressure talent.
>>584385 nobody knew she would drop it today
>>584385 Not really anything they CAN say atp, it'd just fuel the fire
>>584322 The org hasn't disbanded yet, at least officially. You can just keep baking /vsj+/, removing Mouse from the OP, and decide once it officially dies.
>>584389 it's not vague but what was is the timing. She said in a separte tweet, as a reply, that she wrote it in context of meeting said guy in the US, and didn't notice the timing of it so the takeaways are: 1. Kaho is a dramafag 2. This might be the ex cover guy at AX
>>584287 she does it for personal clout and attention. She's an ex pornstar who wants to "leave her past behind"... but keep using her porn star name. A simple personality analysis will tell you everything you need to know about her
>>584347 Eh, just a PR move, imo. Her unblocking mouse now after this stuff dropped feels kinda fake to me. Also remember, she unfollowed Henya on twitch as well. There is a chance she didn't know about any of this, but the whole thing still doesn't explain the falling out (both mouse and henya not showing up to zen's subathon, etc.)
>>584385 Lawyer probably told the to shut fuck up and mouse lawyer probably told her to come clean and tell about the money.
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>>584322 hostile univolt takeover /uni+/
>>584389 she also broadcasted she is on her way to snitch to his superiors. probably that person is also following her and knows she will tell. Just Kaho things man
Completely unrelated, and I own up that this is fucked up, but I was here dooming (before all this happebed) about how vshojo could possibly recover and I was saying how in order for the 'group of talents' of vshojo could come back stronger was if they got new people and replace, not just the leavers, but the MIA members like froot, haruka and hime too. But obviously, unless something fucked up happened, there was probably little that was going make those three leave. And something did. So there's a part a part of me seeing this implosion and going 'oh no the gang is gone' to also 'fuck yeah, the three members who never did shit are out. well along with everyone else'.
>>584396 I'd say 2 and not 1 because from what I can tell she's certain it's this guy who's causing problems and wants to make that known since its not something we would know. I'm worried about the legal ramifications for her for saying so though.
>>584398 If it was a PR move, she would post it about it and make a big deal. As one of the few people who read the conversation, Zen was genuinely hurt by the whole thing, and knew she was overthinking but was to hurt to not overlooked it. Safe to say, she didn't knew much. She clearly realized stuff today, and at least be in peace with it. I don't think they will go buddy buddy all the sudden, but it's a good step.
Ludwig talking about the drama and watching the video
>>584417 Now this will be interesting, he's got some experience in this area.
>>584417 connor BF is such a nice guy
>>584406 That's like celebrating that the ship is sinking because it fixes the rat problem
>>584416 She deliberately donated 5.5k to put her donation above the 5k donators to make it more publicly visible. She also just made a public tweet to farm more public goodwill out of the situation.
>>584417 Well this is expected is Mouse Everyone and I mean everyone is gonna react to that video From Asmon to random drama yt fags that dont even cover vtubers This unironically a Doki 2.0 completionist boogaloo
>>584430 there is a real risk of even pewdiepie say something KEK
>>584429 Being visibly publically isn't the same as posting about it. Not even the other stuff, that Zen was going to do anyway. If Zen wanted major attention as a "PR move", Zen would have responded to Mouse's tweet with "I donated 5k to you friend" or something.
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>>581612 So, uh, how you holding up, bros?
>>584430 >>584433 Imagine knowing nothing about Vtubers except >the filian model drama >doki vs niji and now Vshojo stealing from Mouse
>>584322 I would say just keep it the same its not like people following the girls(and kuro) arent going to want to watch how things go from here.
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>>584443 good to be desu. half of year now makes more sense
>>584443 Bittersweet, glad Mouse got it off her chest but this situation is still fucked
>>584443 Hopefully VShojoJP rebrands, other than that this company deserves it.
>>584443 As a general actually fine, we knew something was wrong for months and now we know what so that's a relief. Awful for talents though.
wait wait... I thought they had only took money from the last subathon. They took from both after the first one?
>>584467 No just the last one, the rest missing afaik is her personal merch money.
>>584467 The first one went off without a hitch. Worked as planned. The second one was the one where they stole the 500k. The rest of the money is straight up Mouse income that they stole.
>>584443 A couple weeks ago I was insanely depressed but I basically made peace with it. I knew something really bad was coming, it was too obvious. Now I don't feel anything.
guess vshojo is the veridian dynamics from vtubing world.
Kson removed VShojo from her twitter handle
>>584494 SHIT! JP's going down too
>>584475 they stole from the third one
>>584503 It's ov... Yeah yeah
>>584443 Chill. Now that the worst case scenario has happened, all that's left is to ride it out and see what's next
Lud going in on Gun >I'm not suing him, I don't give a fuck
>>584503 Hopefully they will split from org and make their own
damn lud is straight up rippin gunrun he's right on what he's saying though. There is no way he wasn't aware of this
it was pretty obvious but if you want some more confirmation by someone in the business Lud said that Gunrun and a lot of staff knew 100% what was happening
>>584494 So that just leaves Haruka, Hime, Mel, and Henya.
>>584516 what did he say?
>>584526 >Lud said that Gunrun and a lot of staff knew 100% what was happening To be charitable, he said "there's no way" GunRun didn't know.
>chatter: this is a pr nightmare >lud: dude no, this is a crime, call it what it is
>>584526 panini 100% knew
>>584523 it's so weird and surprising. I suspect it wasn't an active choice HE made to steal but he should have stopped it, and if he somehow didn't know it was his responsibility to pay attention.
>>584532 org is done, Gun is liable, donate plasma
>>584537 "PR nightmare" and it's literally stealing from a chronically ill woman raising money for other chronically ill people
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Breaking: Footage captured of sonch exiting the Vshojo HQ
lud putting his money where his mouth is and dropped 5k on the tiltify
>>584531 the company is done for unless they somehow reveal mouse made it all up with proof and it's not happening, there is no point in looking at who's in or out
Also, Mouse is still on the talent page.
Ludwig unfollowed GunRun, what does this mean?
>>584443 I'll be chill once I know the Novas are safe
Mamane has removed Vshojo from her handle
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damn so nova are the only ones remaining they're trapped trapped
yeah... Next bake xvsj+. Show is over boys.
>>584581 They've got the UMG contract and a brand to spin off into. They'll be Univolt Nova soon.
>>584584 I don't think anyone wants to be associated with vshojo anymore. Just go to /lig/ or something. Anyways, offline golden kappa train in mouse's channel, if anyone cares.
With Vshojo dead, Mel will never be able to shop on Amazon again...
>>584596 lmao never...
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>>584596 >Just go to /lig/ or something
>>584596 Nah. /xvsj+/.
>>584596 I sure fucking hope that her stream income is set up to go directly to her and doesn't have to go through vshojo's accounting department first
>>584523 It definitely felt off how inactive Gunrun was on twitter this year only retweeting and birthday wishes. I'm certain he knew what the fuck was going on
>>584621 the crazy thing is that it only happened because mouse decided to handle her own money... Imagine.
I just hope girls are talking right now, because they are for real in this shit together now.
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>>584225 So which one are you?
>>584596 /lig/ hates us
>>584656 We didn't raise them right. As a joke.
>>584651 what the fuck happened in 2024 that they turned full on black corpo?
>>584667 we will probably never know
>>584667 The covid boost completely dried up in 2023 so in 2024 companies were on life support
>>584667 Probably went into debt due to some poor investments like vstream and then the accountant started borrowing from Peter to pay Paul
>>584625 from recent first hand experience of a very similar nature to mouse, a parent getting a serious diagnosis with a time limit completely changes your priorities if you've relied on them for many things as an adult. not only do you swap roles with them and do things for them instead but it makes you rethink all of the responsibilities for your own life that you rely on others for. because the experience suddenly not having someone handle it for you and not being ready to take it on is much worse than taking it over in a planned way most people when they move out of home for the first time, but for some of us who don't get to for health reasons it usually takes a major unavoidable shakeup to get your brain into gear and want to do everything on your own as much as possible
>>584679 I see it, the amount of sponsors VShojo were giving lately was abysmal, there is no way you can keep it afloat in merch alone if people are just using third party merch vendors.
>>584687 fuck, forgot to clear reply
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>>584687 >probably has no idea what happened yet
>>584667 I assume they spent those 11m without using them for anything slightly profitable
>>584651 Oh good lord, that Daryl wasn't getting paid means it was those high up too, not just us smaller comms. I wonder if any big model artists will talk.
>>584706 models were paid for the talents anon
my nigga peter will talk about mouse it seems
Is anyone else kind of indifferent about this whole thing? Maybe because I doomed it all out when zen and geega left, but like I don't feel a thing. I'm just kind of like "how unfortunate for mouse and everyone" and just went about my day since.
>>584710 Everyone is paid through VShojos accounting, including model artists. It's the talents money but they handle the payment. Unless you mean something else.
>>584700 Seriously. If I'm running a company who's main income is (supposed to be) from merch and sponsors, and I get $11 million in venture capital, first thing I'm doing is outright purchasing a warehouse and starting evergreen merch lines. The fact that there wasn't a line of plushies of each member in their standard outfit available at all times is shocking to me.
>>584718 What the fuck does that even mean?
>>584738 he believes vshojo is a terrorist organization
>>584718 appreciate the support lud but this shit just invites idf jokes
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>>584742 Naruhodo
>>584744 He already stated his plan. Say this, Vshojo sues him for defamation and wins $500k. Mouse sues Vshojo and wins $500k. Mouse donates it to the Immunodeficiency foundation.
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>>584753 THEN WHAT THE FUCK WERE THE GREAT THINGS COMING KURO WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY
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>>584759 He said big, not great
>>584759 He said that before the oof posts. Whatever they were, they're not happening anymore.
>>584759 For himself, he meant for himself
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>>584762 well this is certainly big i suppose
>>584753 he and michi have done this song and dance before, they know the feeling >>584756 not needed, already a third of the way there damn
This has been a year of all time.
i remember someone saying gunrun docky was about to be dropped... WELL...
>>584667 You are what you eat, they hired too many nijis
>>584769 Nah, the way he was describing it came across as group related. Multiple members were recording something around the same time. It doesn't matter anymore though.
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>>584790 The gunrun docky was supposed to be a shitpost, not an actual reality...
>>584800 surprise...
>>584713 What’s he saying. Though my nigga Pete is probably just gonna support mouse and lift her up, doubt he’ll lean into the drama
You know, following through VShojo for years I never though I would see word black corpo thrown around on it. My dumbass really thought that talents owning their IP would be safe from it. Honestly, this is saddening to me. No more group projects, no more team, the term "unity" lost all its meaning.
Lol. lmao
>>584833 the auditions were a success after all, too bad Vshojo fucking tanked before they could debut
>>584833 she had raided peke a couple times... we lost a member who couldve stuck to her..................
>>584833 why did it take so fucking long i feel sorry for them after making it and having to wait a fucking year only for vshojo to go up in flames
>>584833 >a whole year for PiaPi wtf was vshojo doing
>>584833 hey look actually nobodies. KEK
God Gunrun is so fucking stupid. Handed everything on a silver platter and fucked it up this bad. Jesus Christ.
>>584833 at least we get to find out who was going to join... she seems fun. more natural voice than most. she'd do well with 3AM if they're looking
>>584833 Unironically who?
>>584833 I watched this girl a couple times after peke raided her, she's a good pick. What a shame.
>>584852 EXACTLY!
>>584833 Anyone watch her? Glad we have closure in this front. Even as the company goes up in smoke, making it through the infamous auditions is a kind of bragging rights I guess
Henya
>>584866 So it's Haruka (eternal slumber), Hime (in a different reality), and Mel (mentally broken) left.
>>584852 >>584847 >>584865 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RwRAoCQtPrg She was part of Doki's concert, she's got tons of energy and speaks both Japanese and English.
>>584866 Mamane
>>584873 <speaks both Japanese and English would have been an amazing addition
>>584852 200ccv, an actual small but established vtuber so no "newbie trying it out" risk >>584855 mid 2view... they actually did the auditions god damn I feel so bad for these guys, this would have been so amazing for them >>584870 they'll all go within a day. mel may take longer as this is the toughest on her behind mouse, this company was so important for her and gun was so good to her and it must just be killing her inside
Fumble after fumble lol
>>584895 Well that one sounds like Shoto decided not to, not that Vshojo rejected him.
>>584895 damn they really let that one get away guessing it was similar to geega where they were hashing shit out but they didn't bother negotiating with him as long as her
>>584895 same timeframe as ama, guess they were trying to scout people and then gave up and started the saviourfag auditions
>>584884 Mel must be devastated. Nudge her friend to join to “take care of her”, only to achieve the opposite effect in the end. I mean they did do lots of stuff for her but.. >>584895 Never liked Shoto, mostly because he’s cringe. Not that I think he’s a bad person
https://x.com/CaseOhUpdates0/status/1947479812995448977 lol this shit is fucking everywhere, it might eclipse last years nijidrama with this much attention
Don't know about you guys, but I'm frankly surprised they were actually trying to get new members. I really thought they weren't doing shit.
Why did Geega say Vshojo would thrive without her if she knew all that
>>584924 I'm telling you Mouse is big Like she might not get her ccv but shes Saba big and is known by big cerators This shitstorm is Doki 2.0 completionist boogaloo
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It just keeps coming.
>>584921 there's no need to rewrite history, without a doubt mouse wouldn't be where she is right now without vshojo and it's been great for her and all of the other talents. it's just incredibly unfortunate and awful that something went wrong within the last couple years or so. the company at its core isn't predatory and wasn't built to be (if it was then they all wouldn't be able to bail like they are right now), something changed and we'll find out what eventually >>584924 that was big because they indirectly almost killed their employee, but most people didn't know what niji was or who selen was or even what vtubing was. most streamers and their audiences have heard of ironmouse and there's no he said she said plausible deniability when it comes to missing money for a charity donation that was extremely public
Haruka
>>584954 Only Mel and Hime remain.
>>584943 I feel lucky I even got paid now... Roxy would have been in charge of communication for payment for them, her and the other managers jobs must have been even harder if they were having to push accounting to get off their asses constantly.
>>584954 >gets accepted in >didn't think she'd actually get in >gets imposter syndrome and depression worsens >doesn't stream for ages >starts to recover, come back to say she'll try to stream again but it won't be immediate >slowly see her more often recently >then today happens Whoever is with the moose better cuddle the hell out of her
Man mouse is really big as fuck... Look how fast the news are spreading into the normeisphere.
>>584983 ksheena eternal GOAT
>>584983 Doki must fucking love cup noodles.
>>584979 She is the biggest EN vtuber on Twitch and the one most well-known in the normie-sphere outside of Gura/Saba. This has basically spread even faster than Selen's termination did
>>584979 500k stolen from charity is easy clickbait
>>584989 yea she loves eating ice soup for a year when it comes to either her projects or shit like this
>>584991 six hours to fully extend across streaming platforms, curious on how far it could go on the wider internet and irl
>>584997 ok if hotaru is putting public support for mouse it gives me a bit of relief that they can get out of this mess somehow
Peke too, nagi is probably still asleep.
>>585037 >nagi is probably still asleep Nagi doesn't sleep.
Nagi new bio
>>585043 peke also removed vshojo
And now Hime, she also responded to Mouse
>>585045 Hestia as well she still has to remove the location but the rest is gone
>>584958 Just Mel now
>>585059 Mel and Hotaru
>Hime logged in and changed it before Mel
ok... So mouseshojo will be real now
>>585069 let mel handle things at her pace, she's definitely having a bit of a mental brekdown since she poster her own tweet
>>585072 yep, this is probably her worst nightmare
>>585059 what if she’s still shitting herself
Well Monke just went live
Mouse alt live, if you want a rehashed opinion since Jap defamation laws force him to hold his tongue.
Mel I really don't want to be disappointed again tonight
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>>585079 just in time, the thread was starting to slow down
>>585070 It was real all along, the whole ops ran on her life blood
>Even Nova and fucking Hime all removed Vshojo from their name Literally everyone straight up is /out/ now. On one hand, still hate to see this is how vshojo goes up in fucking flames. But on the other hand, it is nice to see solidarity among all the girls(and Kuro)
>>585080 VShojo is not a JP org.
>>585074 yeah while mouse was betrayed by the actions themselves, mel must definitely feel betrayed too because she's always spoken how vshojo felt like her true home, and to do such a henious thing must feel terrible on her
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Laughed when that shit happened but now it finds new relevance. /in/ for evil org?
>>585095 current talent walks out vshojo reforms and picks up sinder, elira, vox and the vtard girls
>>585086 their reputation was both their strength and weakness. their talents are loyal to them because they were good to them, but their fans are loyal to the talents, not vshojo. so if they hurt a talent in an undeniable and inarguable way then the other talents will stick together, and then the fans will follow the talents it's how companies like this should work imo, it's normal that corporations aren't punished for wrongdoing, this is what should happen when they do something awful >>585089 brainworms will probably make her blame herself despite reality
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It was a good run. Sonch in 9 hours btw.
>>585100 Evil lineup is kinda sex ngl
i just woke up, this feels so strange like wtf i just wanna go back to sleep again. I hope all the girls will be well ;__;
>>585115 it'll normalize anon, give it a couple hours. if you've been keeping tabs on the company's weirdness the last few months you might find relief eventually as most of us seem to have
lol
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>>585125 >>585127 oh fuck it's onnnnnnn
>>585127 >>585125 kek I'll be sleeping at that time but lets see what she says
10000% unrelated but it's so funny that this is bombshell monday
>>585125 >>585127 text says We need an explanation. PLEASE ANSWER VShojo Please take responsibility and give an explanation to the fans who supported you. (I will explain my current situation here.)
>>585134 holy kek
>>585125 >>585127 HOLY BASED KSON
>>585134 time to mod for her bros
>>585105 >it's how companies like this should work imo, it's normal that corporations aren't punished for wrongdoing, this is what should happen when they do something awful I'm glad at the very least this came to pass. I'm tired of playing "who stands with the company", "who stands with the victim", and "who stands with the victim but can't say anything because they need their job" every drama. Everyone's on the same page
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>>585134 I'm so happy for her, and glad that she feels safe and comfortable enough to talk about it
>>585134 What a week
>>585134 lmao, she chose a good timing congrats to her though
>>585134 Grats to her
There is no way he didn't know anything
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>>585146 captain it's just monday
>>585152 >>585153 Suspiciously relaxed wording given the circumstances...
>>585152 >>585153 this fucker probably spent it all
>>585152 >>585153 buddy thinks he's slick when he's under scrutiny as well given he's a co-founder
Thread getting copypasted to 4 word for word lmao
>>585166 Thanks for the update, you can go back now.
monke live btw
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>>585166 don't care, go back
Brother changed his shirt for mouse... Respect
>>585152 he might have felt something weird was going on but not the specifics. like if gun or anyone else responsible for this shit was acting strangely anyway turn monke on if he's not up because he's talked to a lawyer so he's certainly going to talk to us
>>585179 ... You know these two are married. KEK
>great tweet by the way, my lawyer said it was fine
>>585134 itshouldbemenothim.jif Anyway, what crazy day (or hours) had it been.
>>585123 ty anon, yeah that's true i guess
>>585179 I still think saying "nah bro" is inappropriate given the situation
>>585197 oh yeah for sure but imo not a sign of guilt
>>585189 what has he said just joined
>>585204 nothing of substance yet but he's starting serious right now. he even closed chat
>>585197 Have you seen MTD? The man couldn't speak seriously if he had multiple guns to his head. >>585204 He is angry. He's just getting into it now. Turning chat off so he doesn't lose his train of thought.
>>585204 nothing, he just talked about lud's tweet and closing chat for this but he's going to start talking about this now
>>585210 i am of the idea that mtd is trying to save public face, dude's a cofounder and was chief marketing officer, there is 0% chance he did not know any of this
>>585210 >hey I'm going to turn chat off for a bit >emma fucking tts's around it
>>585222 I admire her autistic tenacity
>>585222 we need to marry emma and scuttlebutt
peke retweeted kson's stream announcement
oh michi...
oh shit he's pulling out the MSpaint this is real shit
Monke opening paint to break it down
>>585249 did connor's dad work at blizzard
>big investor money goes in >specifically draws 11
>you now remember Henya and Michi joking about being worried because Vshojo is too generous and let's them keep most of the money
>>585259 Fuck...
Mouse is in CDawg Corp
well... The zenhera was justified. Well shit
>>585259 eh it was always sus af to me, since they fumble merch so hard (their alleged main revenue stream)
>>585278 yes but there's still the henya/mouse unfollows that need explanation
>>585278 part of it her zenhera against vshojo? definitely her crashing out on mouse, allegedly not knowing this situation and thinking it was all about herself? no
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what even
>If you aren't taking any of this money, you kind of don't have a business Something that anyone with a brain could find out.
OH FUCK... All that shit everyone made fun
>>585278 Zen lashed out on Henya and Mouse because they dared to collab without her while Mouse was dealing with ALL of this, and Henya mourning a relative.
So Connor is pretty much confirming VShojo was practically strapped for cash. Given that, it is logical to assume they took the subathon money, wrote IOU's, and used that cash to fund their current operations, but now they are broke and can't afford to pay Mouse and the Charity. Ooof.
>spent 200 million yen on fucking shinjuku ads
>>585315 WHY? That thing never brought not but mockery to us
>>585315 ENGLISH vtubers in JAPAN, there were no VSJJP at that time
>>585315 when he said that I gasped so loud my cat jumped off me. insane
That’s 2 mil, not 200mil. I think monke fucked up his JP. More accurately it’s 200 man (10000s)
>>585315 >Was there a reason to advertise an English agency in Japan Holy shit, I feel so vindicated in my criticism of that atupid campaign.
Fucking RETARD
>>585326 the problem is that vshojoJP wasn't even real back then
>>585323 btw it works out to 13.5k usd, not fucking 200k for fucking pillars lmao
>>585315 wait a sec, who was in charge of marketing at that time?
>>585343 Mowtendoo
>>585343 mtd, the guy who's throwing gunrun under the bus as we speak kek
>>585346 CTO at that time, not him
>>585351 he was always the CTO, no?
>>585326 i really don't think anyone with a working brain thought it was a smart move by vshojo
monke basically confirming it's probably much worse than we know
>>585355 Changed to CMO after VStream exploded
Are we back?
>>585356 It’s bad but not that bad, Monke made it seem 1000 times worse by casually spreading misinformation with bad math.
>>585365 we always needed a big explosion to rebuild the unity this explosion couldn't be bigger
>>585346 I am now getting why so many on the top left as fast as possible before this got out. "Time for me to part ways with Vshojo" my ass.
another one
OH man... Imagine mouse having to explain this shitshow to her mother... Oh brother...
>>585371 Fuck, the newbies signed those contracts
f. woke up to this bombshell. guess its time to leave chans for good
>>585381 she is european, americans are used to be fucked over by contracts.
>>585371 >putting mouse as an afterthought. Ruthless business woman
>>585401 just stay here, we're handling it together and it's been positive and helpful at least for me. haven't seen the ex, not going to
>>585401 mouse is still alive and your oshi... It will just be funny now... Like a divorce.
>>585417 well at least we now had a confirmation that they tried to get lily and probably sinder KEK
>>585414 >>585413 thanks, even if the company burns down, at least we'll still have our talents ig
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Based, making new chatters sit and wait while spreading awareness on PIs
>>585371 Ok now I dont know if I buy that one. Literally all the talents specifically mentioned how good the contract is and that includes Kson who had the Holo contract to compare with.
>>585371 eww why she gotta self insert into everything? i don't like or trust this girl
>>585426 The idea of Sinder doing everything dirty to climb in popularity, getting sent a contract by Gun, reading it and then denying it is a funny mental image
>>585445 it's easy to kick the man lied down.
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>>585442 he always uses this stuff as an excuse to raise awareness of PI
ok hotaru also removed it so it's just mel now and it's safe to assume it's just because she cried herself to sleep or something
>>585461 I really worry for her, if she's innocent this entire org she helped establish just crumbled to dust
>i wish mouse could go hail mary and tell you all everything, but lawyers gotta lawyer >I'm angry, I'm disappointed, it's not difficult to pay money that you owe. It's not your money, don't fuck with it. >My lawyer messaged me, it's not in all caps, I'm fine
Hotaru update
>>585472 Very professional as expected
know how mouse is and how she "avoids" real confrontation, this is probably killing her inside.
>>585470 starting to think they took a lot more from mouse's revenue than was taken from charity
>Geega raided Connor >Connor praises Geega
>>585484 her house quest comes to my mind...
I LOVE MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michi's wife fucked up the donation so she donated an extra 1k, purple retard love
>a lot of the talents had representation outside of vshojo >why would that happen? >you gotta wonder
>connor saying that kaho's tweet is basically grounds for defamation kek
>>585494 ehhh that was over two years ago, everything indicates this was more recent. like dumb choices since the beginning but actual theft I'm- ah so monke has strongly implied kaho's tweet is correct ooooooo boyyyyyy
>Kaho tweet will make your lawyer flip the fuck out
>>585480 I just kinda think it extra sucks because mouse couldn’t just cut loose and leave, never looking back. Meanwhile she definitely had to deal with people asking about leavers constantly on top of what’s happening
>I saw Kaho's tweet, that's the kind of tweet that would make your lawyer flip >But it makes you think >Kaho has no chill and I love it, nothing but respect >Definitely makes you think
>>585516 >I didn't see Kson's tweet >Yup, that's a Kson tweet
>>585514 it's around the second subathon time
wait demondice said something? Things going crazy now.
>maybe my lawyer won't appreciate this >so here is my biggest what the fuck in all of this >as someone who is always concerned about Mouse, if you owed someone money, and if that person isn't in a financially secure position, what are you going to do? Not pay it? >You're playing with someone's livelihood, with someone's life
i can hear some jp manager screaming
>>583606 I did, I knew something was fundamentally off back when I made it kek
>>585544 yeah... if this had happened maybe three years ago and she didn't have a cash cushion from years of success it would have literally killed her >>585548 she turned replies off it's fine
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Mouse is poor that’s why she made Connor buy her cinnamorolls
anotha one
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>>585556 and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming
peke took a nice time to take a vacation KEK
Ok now I seriously have to wonder why so many people didn't say something sooner
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>>585567 she still found time to be angry and tweet kson's stream from the "mountains" sasuga
>>585572 Probably because they were hoping to get paid or worked out. But it's clear now that's not gonna happen.
>>585562 I know it’s been a while since I asked about your collection Mr.266 Peke bro, but what’s the current count and what’s the 266th picture?
monke gonna play the funny monke game because mouse wants it
>>585572 cuz of the good standing reps of vshojo which is now in the dumpster
>>585572 Thats the only thing that irks me Every time no matter what People wait for someone to take the first step and then everyone starts coming out the woodworks with accusations
>>585576 this is 266 >>585573 current total sits at 309 + 9 videos
>>585572 like monke suggested the entire thing as a pyramid scheme and it finally run out of money. Orange man killed vshojo D: KEK
>>585572 What >>585578 said, because it was VShojo and they were spotless and had paid before so I wasn't worried for the months it took and assumed it was an accident and my invoice got lost. Everyone seems to have assumed the exact same thing.
ngl i'll miss having most of my favorites in one group, hope at least some of them make something like vchiban or join already established friend group
>>585572 People will claim that they always knew, but it's far more likely that most of them didn't and only know realized and tried to pass it off as such
>>585572 >Got a suspicion there's something wrong >Might just be me >They still payed me later tho >If I say something it will be likely be buried Repeat for everyone Then they all made it worse for everyone since VShojo kept getting it away
Tall order, but if they reach 500k through tiltify then that’s a huge uplifting news to come out of this shitshow
lol she removed it
>>585615 that's just so funny
>>585615 Forgot her when drafting the evil lineup kek
>>585572 >vshojo pays normally till last year >they say "oops sorry, payment will be a bit later, please wait" >money never arrived >people involved never made any ruckus because its VShojo >shitstorm finally hits >you are here
>>585615 lmaooooo girl you have bigger shit on your reputation than this explosion
The friendship (for now) between Numi and Michi makes me so much less worried about Michi
Test
nimifags are having it harder than us
>>585679 >i can't believe id die fighting side by side with a pippafag >how about a friend
>>585679 >pippa actually being accountable for her community's shittiness Somebody pinch me
>>585688 man... The timing of the news was so perfect. KEK
>>585688 I think she wanted to drop this news for a while and couldn't pick a better timing
>>585694 this might be the biggest news of today
she's fucking going through the higher ups like a dragon
>>585707 > like a dragon
>>585707 Final battle on Millennium Tower with Gunrun, lets go!
>>585707 glad monke isn't streaming for long so I don't have to pick between DK and this. because man that's going to be a fun watch
i bet mouse is laughing like a silly baby watching monke playing it. Oh man...
https://x.com/AmeDollVT/status/1947519686561960389 Another vtuber who made to second interview, and yikes, that story
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man, grok usually give me genocide, war, or tariffs. So weird seeing mouse here in the news
nagi retweeted the kson tweet
>>585759 I think all of Nova is retweeting it
Michi unfollowed Gunrun, I knew something was wrong when she streamed without stream background. Also >Ironmouse from ... Twitch
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fr we all need this exact game right now
>>585773 when was that? I'm guessing kuro and michi were some of the first vshojos she spoke to about this
>>585787 Last stream? She was using her 3D model with some default BG.
>>585791 somehow I thought she said that from twitch thing a while ago but maybe not
>>585795 No, that was the same stream.
It's just so baffling to me
>>585847 oh man... Henya without management... o7
>>585847 Stinky has a plan nice
>>585867 She has mamane
>>585847 >>585867 >>585867 R0xyy was in Henya's chat a lot recently. I hope that means there are plans in the background happening to help her.
>>585867 I assume she is fucking off and taking mamane with her, she removed the vshojo stuff from her bio too
>>585872 and UTA, she will be fine
He made good on his word.
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>>585878 made me look
>>585884 Nobody can donate sums that large
>>585847 might also be related to what Kson is gonna say later today
Mouse exploded the Vtuber sphere but its Marriage and Pregnancy that finally crashes the site. Kek Unicorns
>>585903 I was just checking. Did this shit kill the entire place and not just the board? If so then lmao
Just wanna say that I really really hope loutlot is not complicit in any of this.
4chan is deadge?
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what up niggas, what's new here? halfchan dead again
>>585919 someone getting married killed it lol
>>585907 It did kill the whole place yes
>>585909 I seriously doubt he was involved in that.
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Erm did 4chan just get hacked?
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>>585940 Mass unicorn Suicide posts crashed it
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kindly get the fuck out of my thread, ex tourists
>>585948 Dude, who the fuck honestly thought that woman was single? She is hot... KEK
>>585955 pretty sure she's been in the same relationship since before joining holo, even
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alex kiyoshi pelz you are on the shit list
I didn't expect to be reminded of unicorns existing today. I'm parasocial for Lucy but I'm not THAT parasocial
Mel posted a couple of things in her fansly maybe she is doing better
All talent managers removed VShojo mentions in their bios, rip
>>586023 Hope the Talents will continue with their managers. Just as Mouse has with Roxy. I wish the best to Maiko; he's been going through a tough time and managers both Michi and Amalee.
>>586023 these weeks i thought if vshojo were to go out it would be with a wimper, its talents leaving one by one as months passed but it's dying in one final flash
Feel bad for the plusses that loved vshojo
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>>586051 they loved the ideal vshojo represented, not vshojo the org. We were the same. We will move on. The biggest bomb has dropped. Can only go upwards now.
shiiit
>>586088 you know what i'm going to bed
>>585919 antis keep losing, first they can’t shitpost Gura now this
>>586088 who was that one? I don't remember
>>586119 Tono Octavius's manager
>>586119 JP manager
>>586031 if you put it that way, this end is preferable. It had ups and downs, I would say the ride was just ok and more fun than not. End of an era
>>586124 Oh its over over. This is the band playing music on the Titanic.
You know what. This has actually reinstated my full confidence in talents themselves. All the shit and uncertainty made clear for once. I feel better.
>>586088 loutlot and him are doing good shit with the novas and the jp side of things in general. The pink v brand is forever tainted but hopefully they can recoup
>>586138 Just rebrand to NOVA. Easy peasy
>>586148 i guess the problems is no more money.
>>586148 this. 6 vtubers starting off fresh, maybe bring in the people from the audition with you and you have a full new corpo without any of the baggage.
>>586148 How do you survive as NOVA?
>>586158 Sure but better to be at rock bottom with a fresh start than to be digging through the bedrock to hell.
Haigaisan...
>>586158 So nothing changed?
>>586164 >>586166 there is no money to keep people working. It will be complicated
question kson was following loutlot or not?
lmao I went to sleep 10 minutes before the announcement dropped. Not THAT surprised, but I thought it would turn out to be a simple case of bankruptcy and not one of stealing funds in a desperate attempt to stay afloat.
>>586174 Gotta be some with the UMG contract.
>>586187 Oh no, not the mastering man
>>586174 You do not know that. We have no idea in what manner VshojoJP and EN are intertwined.
We're nearing the end of this thread. So, what the next thread will be? xvsj+? vsjex+? vsjgrad+?
>>586214 anon, stop with the copium...
>>586220 just xvsj+ will be ok for now. The agency is dead after today.
>>586220 i think xvsj+ with early 2025 lineup would work
>>586224 agreeing with this. we can figure out a permanent title and how we want to handle things later
can always go to the old reliable pmg KEK
she is never leaving her job sadge
>>586236 Hesticle...
>>586236 she was so close to freedom :(
>>586224 >>586224 Well, see you guys on the side. Onwards with the new chapter.
>>586220 /xvsj+/
>>586257 everyone who was in the begin of the year
>>586259 Yeah, that was what I meant.
>>586257 should make a multi poll for people to add options if they want to
>>586261 Just post here, I will remake with new options
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>>586257 Just add all ex vshojo talents, no need to be picky now
>>586257 just post here, and yes
>>586267 This will end up badly
>>586270 like i said just the one who were with us until this shitshow started. No need to talk about people who left 2 years ago.
>>586267 >>586270 silver is banned by name and other leavers haven't fucked up the general at all so I'm not opposed to allowing talk of all other former members
>>586275 Are you sure the ban will stay? It will just create more problems, besides 2023 leavers doesn't want to do anything with current lineup.
>>586280 just leave the same description and change the name
>>586280 if we want it to as a group. unlike the hellhole the moderation here doesn't enjoy the userbase suffering and wants to help us have a good time. really I want an excuse to yap about nyan too but we sorta do that anyway so I guess it doesn't matter
You guys are dumb as hell
just let this die forever and come back
don't really care who's in the OP. It's harder to falseflag here anyway, just Do it like half
halffuges.
>>586303 flaseflag about what? it's over
mouse over 280k nice
oh fuck off
>>586334 fucking disgrace of a lawyer
>>586334 From where would he even get it?
>>586334 how the fuck this parasite... >>586337 i call it bullshit
>>586337 Also, I don't need to go to law school to know that a management contract isn't going to protect a company from getting sued for stealing charity money lmao
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>>586334 he's so full of shit motherfucker you're not legal eagle, you're a passport bro scumbag who found a niche to grift in. kill yourself before you hurt any more people
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>>586329 I'm sure mouse doesn't need legal funds considering who she's going against obvious doesn't have any fucking money and she does but I think mouse can use this as a chance to ask creators she's friendly with to start awareness campaigns about something easy to explain, like plasma donation. that's not money that can go wrong, and in the end it can save a lot more lives than even PI awareness
do you guys think the shitshow that the "3D CONCERT" was because of vshojo? Mouse said at the time it wasn't vshojo related BUT now that things are this bad...
>>586354 nah because she specifically said vshojo was super helpful during that
man what a strange day...Hope rat is feeling a bit better after the bananza stream.
>>586354 not at all, every indication is that things were fine up until maybe Q2 2024 >>586360 they could do the funniest thing rn
Ok, I guess we will be with 2025 lineup for now, will change things around if needed later MIGRATE >>586389 >>586389 >>586389 MIGRATE
>>584241 Yes. All the IPs are own by the fish


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