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>>1429 Well, the video playback on the links is blocked, so I'll have to sit and read the transcript. You took the trouble to convey these words at some risk, so I will do my best to consider all of them and to respond. The solitary Urmah flagship monitoring this planet was mentioned at least a year ago, maybe longer. In the same conversation it was mentioned a Draco flotilla is also here, maybe to monitor the Urmah, maybe to monitor us. It was also mentioned that aboard the Urmah ship was some great leader of their people, like a king was on board. I also heard there was a small, single-ship GalFed faction of ~60 individuals orbiting this planet with a feline species aboard being nearly wiped out in some sort of crew/concubine mutiny event at approximately the same time. Were these some associates of the Urmah? Contextually, some of the references to GalFed are too vague to be useful since Sol humans, including me, are not familiar at all with how any of that works, what goes on, what the interests are, or the circumstances of their society and government and why/how they are important, etc. Genuinely the only thing I suspect I know is the GalFed construction and dissemination of the Daggim resonance drives used for ""FTL"" jump travel is tightly controlled by a sort of cartel, which obviously carries implicit de facto power even without formal authority, since that's the fracture point for vital infrastructure in the context of a galactic civilization spanning scores of star systems. Outside of speculation and intuition, people here simply are not armed with the knowledge to form a coherent framework of information regarding this topic. From my experience, I believe I have had brief interaction with several different ayylmao races over the many years on halfchan's /x/. From what I could intuit, this included: native Terran reptilians, Alpha Dracos, Alfarii, "Nordics", Zeta Reticulans, Saiph, and Urmah. Could be wrong on some, but there are people on Earth's internet that are neither Humans or bots. As for the content of that interview, the description of the one being interviewed of the Urmah makes them seem like a valuable, stalwart, courageous, and honorable people to befriend. The creed and values of the Urmah, at least the snippets within the interview, seem to be compatible with Human ideas of good, positive values and outlook on existence. Despite the unstable situation on Earth, I think Sol Humans can count ourselves very lucky to have such neighbors to the star system we inhabit. And I quote this statement from part 3: >And the only thing that is keeping us at bay is the weak Federation argument that Earth is as it is because its inhabitants want it to be so, all for the learning experience. As long as that stands, we cannot and will not intervene. I think that humans would wholeheartedly want to have this yoke lifted off our collective necks. I also take exception to the idea that the GalFed is a genuine representative of Earth or its interests, since they are not our lord, not our liege, and our society is, by definition, cut off from their organization in an official capacity. In the microcosm of the origin of my own terrestrial nation, the USA: Our rebellion against our former liege, the UK, was justified almost entirely by authority being wielded over us without any representation or accountability. If this is the current situation in the context of the big picture regarding Earth - it is an insult for them to claim they represent Earth or that we want this. If that is what they say, then they have wronged us, my entire species, and this entire planet. Yes, deals and agreements exist between them and Earth governments, but this is clandestine and simply cannot carry the same judicial weight. However, this is in the context of governments being infiltrated for generations by GalFed representatives or other, non-human entities. It is known that many notables, nobles, and noteworthy individuals are not human at all, but disguised ayylmaos or some form of hybrid manner of creature. This seems to be part of a strategy by GalFed or their peers to simultaneously rule or manipulate Earth by proxy through these individuals, whilst also referencing them as representatives of Earth as a whole to justify the current state of affairs, despite the fact that the ones appealing to this sort of Prime Directive surely know that every word coming out of their mouth is a lie because they are acutely aware of this subterfuge. Obviously, not everything is some ayylmao in a rubber mask. This system is compartmentalized to such a degree as well that it is a wonder that it functions at all. The hearts of Mankind can be easily corrupted, especially within such a labyrinthine Great Game in the context of this galaxy. It is simply they have the advantage, identified the fracture points by which to control our civilization and this planet, and exerted their will in such a way to confuse their rivals and Humans. both from this interview and info gathered over years through intuition, GalFed have ulterior motives regarding this place and are rather permissive for criminal activity on this planet; which is violation per their laws - not ours, which makes their position in that regard all the more egregious of a slight. From the perspective of a Sol Human, GalFed has informal rule here as an "emperor far away" who acts with impunity and break their own laws when it seems convenient for their interests whilst citing the selfsame laws to keep other independent factions like the Urmah at bay. In other words, it seems we are nothing more than subjugated by their power, and any reason they provide is simply in maintenance of that power. Farming us like livestock, abusing us as if we were slaves or chattel, selling us like merchandise. And in short, this idea that we, Earth, want it to be this way... Is an absolute barefaced lie. They are lying to your face about this and sneering through their teeth at the Urmah, at Sol Humans, and the others who are victims here and elsewhere of this misbegotten status quo. If permission is all that is needed, then this one gives the Urmah permission to make contact if the desire or possibility is there.

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I consider them to have plead their case well. I accept their position and moral considerations as being just and right, even with the scant information available. They are also our close neighbors from what information is available. It would be dishonorable to ignore them, since circumstances I think have provided the framework for a unique positive relationship between our peoples and star systems.

>>1854 If some of that Law of One lore is real, then I'd say they've had quite a bit of warring with some of the factions that federation is now being accused of being in dealings with (Orion/Cabal of some evil ayys). There's many mason media that admits that there are repto underground ayys (Iron sky, vril the coming race, darling in the franxx inverted them to be good guys etc) so it's weird for federation (painted as good guys by shows like star trek) are doing deals with such beings. You look all of the media we're been bombarded and most of it points either sirius and orion, when Urmah points to neither (it's Vega), and that's why you don't see Urmah or Lyrans much in the media. Weird huh?

>>1865 Well the situation is that we're being loosh farmed for some beings that have very bad vibes, and federation seems to be ok with this (maybe because of corruption, maybe these bad beings want to further infiltrate federation idk). If you check the Law of One stuff it seems to point out that it was the Orion blood of Annunaki that caused wars in our solar system, Maldek was destroyed and Mars was scarred, and basically people on Earth are either reincarnations of people who died on that war, or offspring from annunaki who had sexual relations with human females. Either way there's Orion blood in our planet, and the shady cabal elite is trying to manipulate that to their own ends, they'll use the Orion blood in person to trap them in MK Ultra and other mind traps for subservience/get you to do their bidding, while simultaneously loosh harvesting people out from their Sirian spark. It's said that our spark of creativity comes from Sirius (which I don't automatically associate to be a good place, because false light and all that is possible), basically this place is sort of like a cannibalism farm, where the orionites eat other orionites while also loosh harvesting the syrian side of said beings. Maybe they've gotten some higher ups from federation addicted to adrenochrome/loosh eating and that's why federation is allowing Cabal and archons to do this. It's really quire cruel what's being done to us.

>>1893 >That's how we got Babylon and Atlantis, which although seen as high tech civilizations, and being functional, relied heavily on a crude process of selective breeding where the very savage humans of the time would be ritually sacrificed by the 1000s every day to gradually remove their violent tendencies over time. Today, and in the past millennia, the regular human is a lot less violent lmao that sounds like whole lot of bollocks, I have no idea where you're getting all this from >Humans need to be civilized through a slow gradual process, which the federation has the time to maintain. Oh ok, so they create the problem (install 3d grid matrix to keep souls from leaving / healing naturally in other star systems) , then the provide solution (join our alliance with cabal) What a load of bollocks you've provided

>>1917 You didn't talk to anyone, I have my doubts that you even used chat-gpt

>>1919 Are you jewish? Why are you using jewish tactics?

>>1923 No they don't, but nice larp.

Reptilian Jews own the Earth, they are the native population. Humans are alien invaders, they shouldn't complain about oppression or immigration. The constant "if aliens are here, why won't they show themselves" is so stupid, when those saying it are the aliens themselves.

>>1928 What are you gaining from deceiving? Are you getting some kind of kicks? Paycheck?

>>1854 >Honestly, how is this different from what they say the Federation are doing? Intent matters. Goals matter. >>1893 GalFed's position is the status quo which has been in place for millennia following the warfare Sol experienced in those ages past. I don't think it is appropriate or right either that GalFed apparently is motivated by curating our development to and end of their choosing. This is due to the fact that GalFed doesn't seem to be able to contend with their own longstanding problems that seem to manifest internally as organizational failure and abandonment of their principles and rule of law, as seen in anecdotes regarding Earth; so I am not very confident that whatever goal or end they have in mind for Mankind is suitable for this species or even good at all. How can we allow ourselves to be subsumed into that collective? Where that end seems motivated primarily by keeping us compliant, diminished, and easy to rule. It's like allowing one's own species to be lobotomized at the behest of an incompetent bureaucrat, but scaled up to the size of an intergalactic civilization that projects no exuberance or vigor. That alone carries with it a certain sort of horror, even gazing out from afar. From my perspective, their goals are murky, ill-defined, and ever-shifting. GalFed's continued presence and laxness in authority seems to invite some rather sinister characters to this sector. A big issue here is that inconsistent and fractured motivations of GalFed's members so it isn't quite right to regard that entire polity as some foe, but their organization is definitely enabling great evil here now, and has been for a long time. I don't think it is inappropriate to charge them with the notion that their presence and influence in this region of the galaxy leaves a lot to be desired to the "locals". Instead of malice I ascribe it to clumsiness or incompetence. Or GalFed itself has been undermined by similar beings that have brought low Earth and Mankind, which seems like a strong possibility. Meanwhile, the Urmah, as far as I can tell, are here for pragmatic reasons first and foremost - that being to achieve security in a frontier area which is nearby to the core of their civilization. What I believe was an Urmah individual, they did mention in a past conversation that Sol is a vital junction for transportation in this sector and inherently has some strategic value to them as our neighbor. Something about "slingshotting" between stars as a method of intergalactic travel. I'm not going to pretend like I actually know what they are talking about, but absent those details; those statements still do provide context. We can understand "why" even if the "how" is not provided. The devil is in the details though, and without a complete picture of information we cannot really proceed from speculation to conclusion in good faith. However, lacking in details on what the Urmah or GalFed are like, it would be foolish to cast our lot immediately. Without understanding and knowledge it would be a simple task to wander into a trap, make a hasty decision, or be taken advantage of. When the fate of an entire planet hangs in the balance it would be foolhardy to rush things, no matter how strong the desire for liberation. We could well simply be trading one cage for another without our knowledge. The OP linked interview also mentions a brief description of their moral creed and code of honor, which lends some value to their presence here and reveals that their actions and motivations are, at least in part, motivated by a separate, higher moral purpose which I believe Humans can understand if it were communicated to them. The aforementioned scenario in the pictured excerpt, from my perspective, is simply a frank description of what a so-called "catastrophic" (cat-astrophic?) disclosure scenario will entail. Exercising power and mobilizing force in the real world is seldom pretty or seamless, especially on a planetary scale in a place like this with a largely ignorant, instinctively violent species which possesses nuclear weapons like Humans can quickly devolve into a thorny scenario with unforeseen consequences. Given the disparity of forces arrayed, I don't think we can genuinely harm an Urmah expeditionary force if such a crisis unraveled itself, but we could certainly destroy the biosphere on this planet for no valid reason and zero gain. Not to mention that the other factions participating here with such dark purpose are definitely not above causing permanent damage to Earth, Humans, or Sol for no reason other than spite. I believe the Urmah want to avoid this scenario, and not for some great love of Mankind either. Should that turn of the cycle come to pass, it would give their rivals all the initiative once more after Mankind's surface civilization would be wiped out... again - thus leaving only those inhabiting the subterranean portion of this world, which is yet another set of factors which are almost entirely unknown to laymen such as myself, but mentioned enough in passing to provide some context in the big picture. Even if there is no explanation there due to lack of information, it cannot simply be ignored as a crucial factor. Absent the mitigating factor of billions of humans inhabiting this planet's surface, Earth could quickly become a secure outpost for some foe or rival of the Urmah. Not to mention GalFed is not above pitting its members against each other in order to weaken both parties so as to exert greater authority over them by the collective of GalFed. Urmah interests seem focused on maintaining this independence and league of alliances they have eked out. I think a liberated Mankind would readily join or at least positively associate with the Urmah given our proximity to one another, whilst a planetary catastrophe befalling Earth would give GalFed an unacceptable amount of leverage over Urmah territory if Sol genuinely has some strategic value in the "galactic geography" so to speak. Unfortunately, despite such long-winded posting, this thread serves primarily as an exercise in seeking clarity for the scant few bits of information we (think) that we know and comparing notes. Yet still, with the methods and sources available to us, very little in the way of certainty can be admitted. And to put it all on the table, Mankind has our own interests even in our fallen state. This is a given. Our entire species has been slaves to baleful shadows for perhaps ~100,000 years, picking at our souls; all whilst being fed a steady diet of poison, treason, and pernicious lies. I would request that some grace be given to those of us who seek for the benefit of us all. Forgive Mankind for our ignorant manner and amnesia. Staring into the abyss of our past has made it seem like we have hearts of stone and quick to draw the blade. We are not monsters, just people who have been beleaguered by monsters.

>>2028 To be quite frank, I do not regard "racism" as this great, ultimate evil that must be stamped out at all costs. That word in itself is a dishonest slur referring to a natural, generally healthy condition of philopatry and self-identification and kinship. The term, "racism", has a main function to demonize a normal sense of self-identity, kin identity, and the mechanism by which protection from a hostile or threatening other is sprung from. I think that sentiment of yours is couched entirely in habits based on submitting to the authority of Mankind's modern society, which uses this modern concept of "racism" as a cudgel to beat people into submission via both social conditioning of the collective and via government policy seeking to address this so-called "issue". And that's without opening the whole can of worms that modern appeals on Earth to stamp out "racism" can easily be understood as simply a broad strategy to exterminate White people through a dishonest appeal to egalitarian sensibility in order to hoodwink vast swathes of the population by pandering to their good will. As an side, the elites and institutions here on Earth are almost entirely malicious and self-serving in their position. I cannot understand why ayylmaos restrict their dealings to these people apart from slavish adherence to a formality or perhaps a desire for easy leverage over a weak planet. I am also aware of the native Reptilian population on Earth, and of course they should be party to any discussion involving this planet, and I do agree that the primary issue here is Humanity in its current state. The Terran Reptilians are concealed and do not interact with us, so if they desire a solution that includes the entire planet, then they need to include themselves in a genuine honest relationship with humans besides hiding from us at all times. I know we are a threat because of our numbers, but much of this implicit threat comes from absolute ignorance (which seems cultivated in us and deliberate). And although this statement may seem cold. If there are indeed intractable differences between us because of some great evil done to either in the past, then perhaps they should not have made that decision in the first place, hid from the consequences, and let the outcome fester for such a long time. On some level, I consider that part of the reason why Mankind has been kept in the dark for such a long time is because the ones responsible for this situation we find ourselves in are deeply afraid of what would happen if it became widely known what they did because the ones who did it knew it was a bad thing to do. Back to the point; even considering the issue of "racism" objectively rather than ideologically has too great of a social cost for many individuals to bear, so they don't even think about it. Or, alternatively, their true objective doesn't match the discourse, so the appearance of debating a salient moral issue is simply a smokecreen to waste peoples' time and conceal their true intent within something that externally appears to be a lively and necessary debate, despite the fact that only one party in that conversation entered it with good faith. Without establishing sensible axioms on this topic, there is no way to adequately apply this arm of philosophy at a scale so great as this galaxy, methinks. Meanwhile, in pursuit of this agenda, the tangible results are: a creeping increase in government power and authority and a diminishment of all sapient beings in a race to the bottom. One need only look at these issues inherent in modern society, mostly in the "Western World" - but these principles can be extrapolated to a scale so great as that of GalFed by limiting discussion to principle, even with the general lack of specific information. If this is indeed the foundation for GalFed's internal social strategy, then it is no wonder they come across as being clumsy, incompetent, and without coherent goals. Their problems and flaws mirror the ones present on this planet, in our society. >They are the only really anti-racist force out there. Everyone else sees to their own race's interest first. This is not a problem. One cannot attempt to please everyone else without considering oneself and one's kin. The Urmah or the Pleiadeans asserting themselves as a discrete group with their own interests is not inherently a threat simply because they enjoy a large degree of independence which GalFed chafes at. It means Earth has options, and also that there are others out there in that great void who value their freedom and independence as much as we do. Specifically on the Urmah. Their physical stature and martial capabilities of course demand a certain sort of respect. Maintaining their independence from GalFed means that military strength is going to be a practical requirement of their desired position. I have no doubt that they can show up with a formidable armada based on what has been said, and since this region is in close proximity to their territory I would wager they would have the logistical advantage as well on top of the upper hand on a pound-for-pound basis they enjoy with their physical stature, and from other biological characteristics of clearly being derived from a feline predator species ancestor. Despite the forces arrayed here and the potential for conflict, the Urmah come here on a diplomatic mission under a neutral flag. This speaks to the desire of finding a diplomatic solution to the way things currently stand on Earth, despite this charge against the Urmah of "racism"(sic). I shall not comment further on that since there is so little information. I cannot let my assumptions run wild, but I will say, from my personal opinion, the Urmah seem to be a more appealing party to treat with on this matter, if only since they don't seem to be constantly lying about everything, all the time, to everyone they meet - which is the sense I get from any interaction regarding GalFed. The Urmah are also our neighbors, so I think they deserve a certain priority over their counterparts, which appear as faceless, mercurial bureaucrats. Yet, I am a Human from the Sol system, not some tabula rasa archetype to be molded as some collective system sees fit. I readily admit and accept I have my own interests, needs, and wants because of no reason other than I am what I am, and not something else. I also assume that others are the same way, so it would be hypocritical and foolish of me to assume otherwise. I am also gripped by curiousity. In the context of a diverse galaxy, how can one submit one's own people into a collective such as GalFed with such murky standards and goals? And, by the way - the condition of putting one's own people and kind first does NOT imply that one feels hatred or even hostility towards others or the outsider. To negatively regard any desire to break away from a lurching collective like GalFed is to be a tyrant. Rather it means oneself and one's collective kin group have established boundaries for protection. This is pragmatism. To interpret those boundaries existing as a desire to harm others - simply for being limiting to the outsider - is simply to be incorrect in one's thinking. Of course, GalFed is something that I think will always exist in some form considering its scale. Rather than trying to destroy it, war upon it, or be hostile, it is something which could be reformed or reacquainted. I understand its purpose and necessity I think, but the level of corruption within beggars belief, which has metastasized to such an extent it almost spoils the entire thing, the quandary Earth finds itself in being a rather salient example. Not to remake that organization in my own image or to my own designs, but something which remains beneficial for all in some way, and hopefully will be more resilient to future opportunities for corruption and weakness manifesting. This can never actually occur without truth, humility, or honesty from all parties involved on a two-way street. Since GalFed has all the initiative and the position to begin that endeavor, it is entirely up to them. If none of that is forthcoming then ultimately it is their fault.

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Consider too the nature of interspecies diversity in a galactic context. Some species' inherent nature may mean that their desires, wants, and needs are mutually exclusive with others. For example: Think of the variety of Dracos (I don't think these are the one's native to this planet, maybe they are. But that is not the picture I garnered from Arno's posts, /x/'s resident inner-Earth reptilian) which devour Humans, which traffic and enslave Humans for the purpose of consuming our flesh, which torture and kidnap our children. How could one possibly create a society where these groups could live harmoniously together, why would we even WANT to live with them or share a society with such beings? And how could you anyway without great institutionalized oppression as a requirement to establish this theoretical society? And of course that comes with the caveat that an individual member of a species which does devour Humans may simply choose to not do that or behave that way, but we are discussing entire social systems, so the obvious reality of exceptions to the rule existing can take a back seat. That reality does not imply extermination of the other, rather simple segregation as the most amicable status. Water and oil do not mix no matter how much one desires it so. Their inherent characteristics make them incompatible. Forgive me if that was a bit of a simplistic description, but other species in this galaxy clearly already have a predator/prey relationship with other sapient, intelligent beings. And no matter if they are consuming our flesh or keeping our entire species in a planet-sized pain engine to harvest "loosh" - that level of inherent difference is not something which can be easily remedied by passing some law no matter how just or comprehensive. One does not achieve harmony in all things by forcing them together simply from having the power to try. Violence and deterrence are not the same things, though they are close peers. Absolute unity or conformity is not inherently a good thing when one deeply examines the cost of achieving such goals and the implications of total submission to that ideal. Formidable strength or overwhelming firepower is not inherently a threat, though it always does carry an implicit warning. Gentleness cannot come from a position of weakness, and strength is a virtue; however, strength is also one virtue that must be tempered by the other virtues we know. Chaotic strength, no matter how mighty, which is wielded with no wisdom, forethought, or responsibility is a quick shortcut to agony.

>>2425 Ideals are valuable as a primer to formulating goals that require innovative solutions. To know which prize should be sought. To guide oneself through uncertain times, and to temper one's base desires. You are correct however, in that any decision must fall within objective reality - a difficult thing to truly define in this context on Earth as so many angles, actors, and factions are concealed with very little in the way of truth being available. The peril is being caught up in extreme levels of idealism which either make no mention of objective reality, or in so many words seek to usurp objective reality as the end result of unbridled pride unleashed. >It's not a good position for someone on a planet with no space travel, to talk about "independence". I also know that this is another absolute, outright lie. Please stop telling such outrageous lies, it is unbecoming of this conversation. If by chance you are referring to the fact that such things are not disseminated amongst the general population then you might have a point, but I don't find it very useful to refer to the surface-level political and social situation on Earth as some standard to measure by, since when it comes down to brass tacks all this world is a stage. Sure, they exist essentially as a breakaway civilization at this point, but they too are tethered to the fate of this planet. That status of separation could change at any time if someone in the know could overcome their cowardice. One needs only to tell the truth. A house of cards is the wrong sort of thing to rely on to build a fortress with. The stakes are far too high for the position they currently take to be regarded with respect. Oathbreakers. The secret space program, and whatever the successor is to Majestic 12 do have intergalactic capability. Their operations are hidden behind shell organizations and official badges, but from a surface-level examination they are tightly associated with the aerospace arm of the MIC in the United States, namely Battelle and other familiar names like Lockheed Martin come up after surface-level examination. We can only follow the breadcrumbs as far as the trail goes. If they take exception to the fact that a handful of words is enough to spoil the little game they have been playing, then maybe they should not have ensured the pathetic weakness of this planet in service to "the Noble Lie" or whatever other faulty, asinine slogan they can muster up to justify or explain their lack. This presupposes of course, that their allegiance is their own and they aren't simply another arm of power structure of the Council of 11 or "illuminati" that you cite, which is entirely possible. I have heard about this role of the Jew that you also mention, but if they are simply a remnant from an archaic, ayylmao proxy then I would prefer to go for the head of the snake instead of the tail. It is only sensible. The appeal to extraplanetary factions and species is because it is the only sensible option in the context of the information that is available to us. They are the only ones that have any capability of changing this situation or providing answers even if they aren't going to do anything themselves. Trust is a scarce commodity in this universe. I can imagine the perils of planetary genocide like you describe but there are fates far worse than death - one of them being a cage for all eternity designed only to magnify suffering, forever. Death is a gift in comparison to such an artificial, synthetic hell. If the other side of this coin are hellbent on keeping us here underfoot for their sordid designs, then I don't have any qualms in burning the entire thing down if the flames of our funeral pyre can also scorch those who have trapped themselves in here with us by the circumstances they have created. Thereby stopping it here and preventing them from doing this to anyone else, anywhere else, at any other time. Even if such a course of action does not deliver those responsible to oblivion, they would have their diabolical designs thwarted by mortal man, at least for a time. A tactical victory. >What they do isn't going to follow any standards except their own, which can be summarized as "eat and expand". Rather low-functioning and bestial don't you think? Intelligent I'm sure like you say, but the cunning perhaps now devolved in the way of a savage beast. If the entire existence of some of these beings is predicated on nothing besides being the most miserly, cruel predator that roams the void - then extermination becomes self-defense, not only for oneself, but for all sapient beings in the entire universe. That is not a word to use lightly, but I had always assumed that such a threat and the potential for it to emerge once more is the foundational purpose of GalFed's mission statement. The brief history of their origin which I have been told was that GalFed itself emerged from an ad-hoc alliance formed in response to the threat of some insectoid hivemind species from which all of the resonance ""warp"" drive technology utilized by many in this galaxy was copied from. The "devil-conqueror" represented an existential threat to all in its path, and the measures necessary to blunt and remove the threat were taken, and I cannot think of any other solution either from my perspective. To ride out and meet that sort of a threat with such ruthlessness - that is not racism, nor prejudice. That is cosmic justice. Mercy even. Humans have a saying about power: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. I see this factor in these beings that you mention, who likely were not always like that in some bygone, past age - but have arrived at that point in some nameless ancient past beyond reckoning. In that climb to ascension, that ladder of power they abseil. They have actually regressed into a bestial, low state despite climbing the layers of reality. To examine them through a pinhole we can only see so much since we inhabit this material realm For whatever objective, purpose, reason, or folly that brought them there. The reward is for them to hunger for all, to thirst for all. That is to become The Beast, the one seeking to devour creation. I don't believe that is the only destination along that pathway. I believe and have faith in God. As one of those in possession of a soul we have a duty to others inhabiting creation to protect their souls, and in doing so we protect our own. Those ancient souls who may yet have become The Beast on the path to power, the devourers of creation and slaking their thirst on the souls of others. To fight against that is not just a decision, it is to be charged with a divine purpose. Duty. Some may regard these words as simply describing a futile purpose in the context of the circumstances that have befallen Earth, but some things are beyond flesh and soul. Truth being one of them. We, allegedly, are no more than a morsel for The Beast. Even if every power in the mortal realm has resigned us to that fate impassively, then we can ensure that they will choke on it. Remember, no matter how small or futile-seeming, the opponent always gets a move.

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Some may regard these words as so much hot air from a parochial ignoramus in this grand scheme, but this is the only way to understand when no answers come except in riddles and capitalizing on mistakes made by strangers. I consider your position to be right however. Seeking out the best pathway for peace in this galaxy. A difficult task on such a grand scale. Truth is required though for any lasting peace to manifest, lest one find themselves in a war that resembles a peace too closely so that it may emerge and pass by unnoticed.

i kind of want this one to peg me

>>2481 For someone claiming to be a lightworker, you sure seem to have certain agenda and pro-jew fixation

>>2480 Stop lying then. Is that so hard? You make these choices. I know more than you think. And I also know that I don't know a lot of things. I don't care about violating security clearances or discussing things which are supposed to be hidden. If that is your agenda in this place then you can kindly withdraw back to your hole. The example in question, you say this planet has no space travel. I know that is a lie. MJ12 and their successors exist. Solar Warden, etc. The fact this is not supposed to be public knowledge does not mean that doesn't exist. Ergo, you just told a lie. You lied to me. If that makes you upset, then stop doing it. I also know that information is not something which I am supposed to know, but those who think that can kiss my ass. I also don't consider the words of oathbreakers and traitors. Compartmentalized or not, everyone has agency and a mind which can think. These things can be talked about, openly, without riddles, and with honesty. Or, alternatively, you can choose to play a stupid game. If people choose to continue to play a stupid game then they get treated like they are playing a stupid game.

>>2491 >These things can be talked about, openly, without riddles, and with honesty. Well said anon, more people should be less afraid of speaking openly and truthfully. You're not going to get punished for speaking the truth

>>2562 And what lie is that? Pray tell. Respect is earned, not given. Give me a reason to do so. Simply demanding it like some slighted bureaucrat is not a great way to begin this exchange. And not really, you gave the primer on GalFed's position just like the last guy in the single-ship faction, who got roasted from a solar emission and then stabbed to death by the rest of the ship's crew when their similar narrative was not met with absolute submission and obedience. Obviously planetary genocide is a bad thing, but GalFed pits its members against one another to achieve institutionalized dominance over all. A dubious collective that is flagrantly rife with corruption whilst demanding total obedience to laws and principles they fail to uphold themselves. GalFed sacrifices planets and species entirely for a nebulous concept of "the Greater Good", which often seems neither great nor good. Not to mention they and their members seem to have been instrumental in the continued enslavement and suffering of this planet under the Archon types for millennia. GalFed also has rivals whom are outside of their system, so this idea they are the best game in town and there's no other way... That argument simply cannot be made. You become angry when I question the veracity of certain things in the manner of one who is upset their master is not obeyed without question. GalFed is not the master of this place or master of Mankind. Outside of the ayylmao's technology - many of the ayys seem quite stunted intellectually on an individual basis. >>2563 Ah, so you're just another racial enemy that pretends like your hatred and envy of my people is justified by a dishonest appeal to egalitarianism and unity, which your kind uses only as an excuse to harm us, and not because you actually believe in it. Don't worry, We see you and your ilk. And we will never forget what you have tried to do to us, motivated by great evil. You are not entitled to our works and you cannot shame me to think otherwise after all that has happened in these past decades leading up to now. White people are entitled to the same protections and standards as everyone else, including self-determination, no matter how much you want to have access to our society in order to plunder it for yourselves. Don't forget, if total harmony and unity on this planet is the goal, it failing is the fault of literally everyone except Whites, who wholeheartedly embraced that sense of setting aside differences decades ago as an experiment. Every other group on this planet took that as an opportunity to sucker punch our society and use that notion of unity as a weapon whilst adhering to zero of its principles themselves. Think on your sins.

>>2562 >>2563 and the mask slips...

once you get crumbs of truth, lies don't stick so well anymore

>>2844 Exactly. Once you see that someone's motivation is just being an ugly racist, you know you don't have to care what they say. They're genetic dead ends.

>>2888 So you're against white race? Doesn't that make you racist? Did you just self-own yourself?

>>2940 >white race That's a racist code word used by people who are afraid to say openly they are racist. It's revealed when they also say things like >jews aren't white >slavs aren't white >italians aren't white and so on, despite their skin colour being identical to those people they do deem to be "white". When this is pointed out, like now, these people (you) will attempt to divert by saying >I mean white identity, not genetics and that proves the point: "white" is not a race, it's a racist ideology.

>>2991 Just say "Yes" next time, hypocrite racist.

these feline need to intervene, kick the asses of reptoids and galfed