The way I see it there are two types of people, those who put up barriers to their own enjoyment and those who embrace their own desires. The former are normies who will give a whole preprogrammed list of 'reasons' why xyz is bad and you should feel bad and here's why you can't embrace your own desires and can't enjoy yourself. The latter are people who simply understand their own desires and like to live according to them, whatever barriers there may or may not be. There's no benefit in taking anything said by the former seriously.

>>53058 This. The only concern you should have when enjoying your own shit is if it's hurting others or yourself in an irreversible way. If the answer is no then go for it.

>>52505 >>53058 >>53074 This is pretty much why I don't really care about RL transgender stuff and avoid engaging usually. If you're an adult do what you want with your own body. I just have issue with the amount online trannies and political nuts that use it as a shield against criticism or try to downplay or dismiss the real medical issues transition hormones and SRS can cause or cry you're an -ist or -phobe if you don't completely validate and condone their behavior. It is disturbing how much online trannies and groomers try to dismiss the negatives of fucking with your endocrine system and surgically altering or removing functional body parts. For comparison body builders taking steroids don't have this kind of gaslighting and dismissal that steroids and testosterone supplements can easily fuck up your body and any sane medical professional would rightfully lose their license by treating body integrity disorder by cutting off a perfectly functional limb. If the medical technology was actually there to make me a woman indistinguishable from one born that way or close enough without chronic pain from surgery, destroying sex drive, demineralizing bones, being dependent on hormones from a pharmacy for rest of my life to maintain the flesh sculpture simulacrum (that one in particular hits close to home just from experience of what it's like to be on psych meds and experiencing rebound symptoms from suddenly not having access), etcetera, I'd likely jump on it. I eventually just learned to stop discussing my mental health issues and body image problems online because there's always some jackass thinking he found an egg to groom to validate his ideology and they get offended regardless of whether it's a firm polite "No, I'm not interested" or telling them, "I'm not going to mutilate myself to validate someone else's political ideology. Other than that it does annoy me when online trannies think they in particular are special and need to be especially validated. Contempt for the flesh is a normal part of the human experience to some extent and there's plenty of philosophy and religion trying to resolve the issue of human bodies being slowly decaying sacks of bone, blood, and flesh we can't really change or stop inevitably decaying going back millennia. Also I want to stress I make a distinction between tranny and transgender. Trannies are the nuts trying to groom and be the center of attention while being delusional, overly political, and responding with rage and dogpiling if you forget their pronouns or typo and forget the s when calling them she.

I know there's not a lot of ABDL/TG stuff (ignoring how many unattractive trannies are in to ABDL), but can we please just not discuss real world transgender stuff and related politics in this thread? It's derailing every time. We already have threads for RL sissy and trans stuff. Go talk about it in those threads, no need to bring it up here. >>53075 And yes, the politics, medical horror, lying about effectiveness, and gaslighting is exactly why I want nothing to do with real world gender stuff. Been pointed out numerous times before that real world gender ideology, transition, hormones, and SRS is likely going to be viewed in the same light as lobotomies and twilight sleep births several decades from now. Let's just leave it at that and get back to the fantasies not bogged down by all that. Anyway, actually bothering to post stuff instead of just autistic arguments about gender nonsense.

>>53199 >1st pic What even is happening in that?

>>53199 >>53221 Higher res version of first image. The description on Trap-Diaper's pixiv just says it's a commission for Anonymous. Even higher res the premise just seems to be "guy inexplicably transforms into sister's twin, is incontinent, becomes diapered waitress, does ballet, and gets babied". There's no on panel transformation and it's not a recognizable rule 63 so without the speech bubbles we wouldn't even know it's a gender bender comic.

>>53236 If that's the level of quality people will pay for, no wonder porn commissions are such a big thing. What an awful comic

>>53199 Doesn't want to talk about it because he's an actual retard

No images to post right now, but here's some ABDL gender bender stories. https://www.deviantart.com/pottypantspu/art/The-Ring-of-Reality-904216849 https://www.deviantart.com/pottypantspu/art/The-Wayward-Witch-1-949072370 https://www.deviantart.com/pottypantspu/art/The-Wayward-Witch-2-999272890 https://www.deviantart.com/pottypantspu/art/The-Wayward-Witch-2-5-999338071 The author disappointingly goes long stretches without posting, but this does seem to be where just4n0th3rus3r got the Ring of Truth concept for his stories and captions since The Ring of Reality was posted several months before that. >>52518 >>52643 >>52671 >>53259 Do you have any insult other than retard for people not agreeing with you? At least be creative and give us some variety if all you're going to do is give single line insults without giving any kind of argument against what other Anons are saying. At least Sage Anon's autistic screeching could be entertaining and funny. I know you don't have anything beyond uncreative insults. You don't actually have a good argument against criticism of RL gender ideology because you're a midwit just buying into the dogma. Maybe start thinking for yourself? Or are you too much of an imbecile for that?

>>53270 You don't get my creative insults because you frankly do not deserve them. I refuse to put more effort into insulting inbred retards like you, than you put into your entire thought process. Because I have had this debate, hundreds of times over the years, and all I have learned is that there is no argument, no matter how well formed, nor evidence reviewed that would make you re-examine your views. I could give you a hundred different studies that clearly communicate my argument and it would never affect your views. Because you would never read them because you're an anti intellectual, illiterate retard. And that's why by the way. You're not a retard because of what you think, you're a retard because of how you think, because of your mode of thinking, your lense of analysis. You are anti intellectual and uncurious by nature, and you fail to meet the minimum standards of what it means to be a human being. That's why I and others simply resort to calling you a retard. You do not deserve more than that and you wouldn't likely understand the words we're using anyway. Funny that you get triggered by just that response though. Retard.

>>53309 You should not insult a man by employing such claims and words against him. I disagree with his point of view, but he too is a monad possessed of omniscience. He is more than a mere human being, he is ultimacy, as every other object in the universe is. One should have respect for him. Furthermore, the insult employed, which is related to the cognitive functioning of man, is inherently qlippothic in nature. Also, to the anon who responded to him, you gave into the evil by employing such techniques against him. To resort to insults is not to argue in good faith.

>>53270 Nah

I don't understand what the problem is with what >>52505 said.

>>53329 Agreed. All he was saying was the fantasy is preferable because RL transgender stuff got coopted for political reasons and that medical tech isn't there yet and that what we have in real life to do this can seem barbaric. The medical horror isn't even specific to gender transition. A lot of stuff said about medical gender transition could be said of far less political elective cosmetic surgery: unnecessary, ethically dubious, doesn't magically fix underlying mental health issues, potential severe medical complications for something only cosmetic, arguably the industry encourages these related mental health problems, a symptom of how we overvalue physical attractiveness and don't have a healthy mental relationship with aging...

>>53329 >>53336 Retards

>>53350 It is mean to call other people that, anon.

>>53352 Obviously, retard

>>53350 I genuinely don't see the problem. If I promise to be civil would you care to explain it to me?

>>53354 Anon is having a bout of cognitive dissonance

Trying to get away from the trans debate, but I had a very fucked up Idea for a littleverse story and how to incorporate TG into it. Basically unbirthing. The big regrow a new umbilical cord, plug it into you and shove you back into your bigs womb and from there it's the doctors and nurses pumping into your adopting mother all the augmentations that were requested while you slowly change in the womb until your inevitable birth.

>>1887 Being turned into an 11 year old girl or younger with no potty training and having a thicc slave mommy or more take care of me. To be their diaper dependent mistress they adore and care for.

>>1887 >>53688 I'd want to be a petite, slender girl in early teens or just looking like that (young enough to be a bit childish, but old enough for big girl fun and act reasonably independently when needed) in a relationship with a loving gentle mommy domme with nice full lactating breasts. I imagine my mommy in this scenario leaves me to basically be a housewife to do the cleaning, cooking, and other domestic work and likes to relax when she gets home from work with her little girl at her breast and enjoys dominating me in the bed room. I imagine a regular scenario where when she comes home from work, undresses, and she gets comfortable then goes to the couch with the expectation for me to unprompted to either nurse from her or eat her out to help her destress and relax. Maybe a daddy too. Personally I'm bisexual but prefer women. Perhaps "daddy" in this case is a futanari with a thick cock. When she has the time my mommy would enjoy doting on me as her little girl, occasionally restraining me and putting me in very thick diapers to be treated like an infant for a weekend or extended vacation, just her helpless little girl who's only concern is pleasing mommy. Other times we might go out for a date night with me being a bit embarrassed at her childish preferences in the clothing I wear and always making sure I'm at least wearing a thinner pullup when out because she respects me enough to know I'd prefer to be discreet about it in public. Is it weird that a lot my fantasies surrounding this are basically just having someone that actually loves me and I can give value too? As a guy, my entire adult life I've felt rather worthless or only as good as what physical labor I can provide for others. My gender bender fantasies (not even just specifically ABDL) have me in a monogamous domestic sex kitten role (or perhaps polygamous, there's a certain appeal to a sister/wife or two to play with and love just as much when mommy or daddy isn't around and chores are done) and both me and my partner being completely okay with that. I sometimes think that if I wasn't such an anxiety ridden mentally ill coward and actually had a woman who gave a shit and valued me as a man while not thinking I'm a freak or disturbing for showing emotion or discussing things sexual we could both enjoy in private I wouldn't have as much interest in this. A lot my relationship fantasies in general aren't even sexual, just having someone who genuinely loves and respects me and makes me feel like I'm actually useful and have a purpose while not thinking I'm a pervert if I reveal my sexual fantasies to her. Sometimes I think there's something wrong with me for just wanting a loving romantic relationship that doesn't have to be completely sexual even if that is part of it.

>>53372 By slaanesh, where have I heard about this before? don't google daemonculaba.

>>53707 I for one just want to see what it's like to be a girl, and if it had to include diapers I'd want what I said there. Because having a thicc slave MILF or a whole harem of them lovingly adore and worship me as I act as a dominant little lady sounds nice. Plus when I become a man again I'd have a slave or more to knock up.

>>53732 >>53688 And now I am back after thinking more on this. I'd want the harem of slave thicc slave mommies to be 20 strong. 2 human ones, 2 elves, 2 dark elves, 2 wolf girls, 2 kitsunes, 2 catgirls, 2 lamias, 2 cowgirls, 2 bunny girls, and to top it off 2 twi'leks. All serving, pampering, worshiping, and loving me.

The trope has evolved. Grow up

Pity how little actual Sex TF ABDL art there is. Sketchman posted another one about a month ago. Only other thing I have not posted already is this short manga I found on Sad Panda ( https://exhentai.org/g/3112161/49392de444/ ) about a guy who turns into a loli for some reason (magic?) after wearing one his sister's diapers followed by incest and him turning back after cumming. Can't find an English translation though, but seems pretty straight forwards what's going on without it. >>54042 This is just crossdressing/sissy/femboy stuff we've already got three different threads for. >>11143 >>24691 >>31488

>>54324 And the rest. >>32873 Also weird no one ever posted the finished TGAR sequence here of that second image.

>>54325 Mental crash did a great one here. Wish I could pick up that wand.

What would you do if you had the chance to make your genderbending diaper fantasy a reality?

Another new one from sketchman. Source for the Tanya AI stuff in this post and posted earlier: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/113833505

>>56317 How realistic? Because I have one where I'm adopted by giants, and another where im adopted by normal size people but still treated like a baby.

>>56317 I'd be happy with just technology getting good enough that real sex changes and perfect body modification within human standard are possible, but as for what I might do... My ultimate fantasy is very similar to >>53707 I've thought about what I might do if it were actually possible... and TBH yeah I might actually be willing to kill someone for for a life of ultimate pleasure, fantasy, comfort, and love. If I found some magical book that was proven to work and it said if you want this you'll need to perform a blood sacrifice... yeah I'll admit that scares and disturbs me what I might be willing to do if I lacked morals and presented with the ability to achieve what would otherwise be physically impossible in our world and something was required in exchange. I get why forced possession and body swaps ties into gender bender fantasy even if it disturbs me a bit. If the technology was actually there I have no doubt the rich would be stealing the bodies of young poor people to live forever... already sort of happens with organ theft. It's for the best it doesn't exist. Getting into moral philosophy the question of "What if this was available to everyone and what would be the expected consequences of that?" is useful

>>56317 The answer is obvious: trap a bunch of gay guys and turn them into a harem of sweet and adorable AB/DL women

>>56540 Ultimate fantasy tier. >>56622 I get that. But if I found something to get my diapergirl and slave mommy harem I’d probably end up taking it.

>>56622 Well. If sex changes or procedures a s complicated like that WERE possible it'd mean humans could do just about anything to organics. I doubt it works like that, because DNA duh It's .. not an easy err obsession to keep healthy. Your mind however is a different story. That could be yours. Your dreams, could be... There's quite a few frontiers general conciousness needs to get around anyhow before we can move on from our backwards understanding of the universe and beeingS specifically. Just enjoy what you can and youll be happy. Maybe get a Gielfriend and stixk Penis in her Vagoo? That sounds like interessting..? But keep the dream