Brat who torments their caregiver by doing stuff like messing their diaper right after being changed.

>>41691 >oh honeybunch did you make a little wet diaper right after daddy changed you? >well there is no time to change you before your play date >I guess you are gonna be soggy the whole time while see your little friends >oh did I mention the girl you used to bully all the time was working at the play place as a nanny now?

I always think modern cringe is kind of fun. Doing something really embarrassing to a little but making it a dumb cringe joke. >look at the WAD! You get a wet ass diaper fo sho! >time to puff tuah! And powder that thang! Something about acting like a dumb cringe lord while totally degrading someone with babyhood is just really funny to me. I've made dad jokes while cuddling a little giy that was totally red faced and it's just a whole lot of fun.

>>41693 for me it's that, if they were to say "you're being cringe", the immediate response is "you are wearing a diaper and it's wet, what's more cringe than that???"

>>41705 > "you are wearing a diaper and it's wet, what's more cringe than that???" I think this board would be a much better place if people said as much to themselves before they started casting stones :)

>>41751 I'm still baffled that we had an abdl cringe thread, twice no less. I guess everybody needs to feel normal in some way.

Diaper dimension scenario where a girl drinks extra water so she can get more diaper changes from the teacher she has a crush on.

>>41765 The cringe thread (which I kill by derailment every chance I get) exists for those that feel like they are the bottom of the totem pole in everything in life except for this one little side kink of theirs that they just so happen to not be (in societal views anyway) at the lowest of the low. They choose to make fun of autistic individuals to boost their low self esteem. It's pathetic, and hilarious. There's nothing more hypocritical than making fun of autistic people or those with mental disabilities but you wear a fucking diaper. I will always call out those losers for being exactly who they are.

I just thought of another cute type of scenario that I can't fond the stories to go with but have definitely seen them. The scene where your lifeline end up in the same situation. There was a diaper dimension story like this where the little had a big on the inside of some nursey facility she was conning or robbing or something. In one scene she come in to see her big sidekick shrunk with nanotechnology and naked in the corner with a red bottom crying her eyes out having spilled the whole plan over one of the nanny's laps.

>>42365 Just remembered a story with physical regression like this from Sebtomato. A group sends an operative to regressed a misogynistic writter. They find him by capturing his editor first. The writer thinks the editor might be able to come and save him but he finds out the editor was now a 1 year old. The writter gets regressed to toddlerhood but he also is able to use a hypnosis device on his kidnapper to make her his loving mommy. The book concluded with another agent saying how ironic is was that he got a dedicated woman to leave the work force just like he always wanted.

Im into the idea of adult adoption through the legal system. Or conservatorship. Like there's a loving couple where instead of getting married then one adopts the other with a power dynamic. I like the idea of forced diaper use she until someone's training goes and then the idea of dependence on a caregiver. Someone physically larger and stronger. Workout babes that can wield a paddle sound hot. Im probably incredibly fucked up.

>>42378 Ok this is incredibly fucked up but hear me out. You have a strong domineering woman, workout type. She has a submissive (guy or girl doesn't matter). She starts in with "dummy" training. That means an adult large pacifiers in the mouth at all times unless told they can take it out. Any time they have it out there's gentle, loving encouragement with lots of coddling to put the pacifier back in. Any back talk or fighting results in a scolding and a severe spanking. Conversations with the little can be of the form where they can only take out their pacifier if theyre specifically allowed to. They'll have to respond to questions and conversations with head shaking uh huhs and nuh uhs and body language which would be adorable. At night the little will have the caregiver gently wake them up and have them put the paci back in their mouth. If they can the caregiver will put the pacifier in their mouth without waking and see if they'll take it up. Also, so many bottle feedings to encourage sucking. After a month they'll start to drool and slobber. They might even have trouble talking and start slurring their words. They'll be able to hear and respond to English but they'll quickly forget to talk or speak with a lisp. Two months and they might be reduced to baby babble. They'll be terrified! A summer vacation or a work from home or stay at home spouse will suddenly see their independence evaporate. And that's when you introduce diapers. If they're good and start using their diapers like they should you might let them stop using their "dummy" so much. If they weren't wetting have them start on that, if they weren't messing do that one. And you always have a dummy pinned to their outfit in case of any back talk and as a constant reminder to be good. God I wish I had a hot Amazon woman to do that to me. And I don't at the same time. Or see if I could do it to a little. So fucking hot.

>>42381 It might be overblown but perhaps you could chain this with other attachment objects. So after doing this with a pacifier you could do similarly with a stuffed animal. The question is how you make this an enforcement mechanism that would then create e behavior pattern. The purpose here is to make it so that the object humiliates and makes the little dependent while tearing a previously childish object and making it 'scary'. Which itself would make the object have a sexual or deviant appeal. The French for the "call of the void". So, a stuffed animal. I like the idea of seeing if you can take the animal away and then use it as a voodoo doll if the little doesn't have it with them at all times or misplaces it. Including when they sleep or when they're playing. So over time if they see it missing they'll start to become anxious or neurotic. Here's how this works. Devise a set of punishments that are metaphorical or correlated between what happens to the doll and the little. So the stuffed bear goes missing and then you say to the little "uh oh looks like someone hasn't pooped in a while" and you give them a suppository or make an excuse to give them a spanking. Then the bear shows up again with cute underwear on that has "ouch!" written across the backside. Or you force a little to wear a bonnet and then the bear shows up again wearing a bonnet. Bonus points if the bonnet includes ear buds in playing nursery rhymes in repeat with hypnotics music they can't take off. It may not be correlated enough though. So here's an idea that's a bit scifi but I like it. You have earrings that have buzzers in them that are attracted to the bear via GPS or a homing beacon. I don't know how effective that would be though, again too complicated. Here's what it is. This is the kind of loving maternal dominance that hits the right buttons. Without telling the little you find a half dozen to a dozen activities that are more in the age range of elementary or middle school but are hard or boring and then you make severe punishments for failure. This should be way after the dummy training and they should already be a compulsive wetter. This should be designed to push them from an elementary school mindset to a kindergarten one. So book reports and math tests that are timed and result in spankings unless a bear or comfort item is used. Then the punishments are less severe if at all and the person gradually has easier work to do. You always make it so that growing up as opposed to growing down is much too hard. Middle school to elementary schools should be similar except substituting something else for masturbation. That's the biggest difference between the two. This one requires some thought. Here I think it's possible to combine the two. Make the homework or the book reports something that's sexy at first and involves rewards for competition that are based on sex and then slowly just make failure involve a punishmenr. Then reward more even more childish activity with younger behavior mechanisms. In a sense this is similar to how you encourage pacifier usage through an even worse punishment and then switch to diapers while leaving the pacifier as the new worse alternative.

>>42381 I also like the idea of making someone masturbate so much that they lose the ability to orgasm and are just pleasured by stimulus ar all this making diaper usage a euphoric turn on with our the ability to come. So that could be a way that you turn masturbation into something sexy into just massaging s baby through their diapers. I wonder if this is possible.

>>39929 >Potty training scenarios hold a special place in my heart, but in particular I like it when the caregiver is negligent or twisted in how they go about it. A little girl asks for the potty while out with her family and there's a public toilet very close by, but they just tell her to use her pull-up because they don't want to make a detour. Even better if she then gets unfairly punished for her "accident" later. > In fact, I think unfair treatment deserves it's own point. Specifically when the caregiver casually makes a decision, completely on a whim or for the silliest of reasons, that has severe consequences for the dignity of the child. Things like a parent casually just saying, "oh, we've run out of stickers for your potty chart so I'm putting your potty away until I get round to buying some more," or "It's pajama day at school and you always wear your pull-ups under your pajamas at night, so of course you have to wear them to school." god, I get this, for me what I like most is scenarios involving little girls who normally wear diapers or pull-ups at least sometimes, and actually just need them naturally

>>42386 So I was thinking about this last night. In ABDL fiction there's always the "humiliating birthday party" scene where someone has a birthday party that's for a toddler or a baby. That's cool, but I want more humiliating events and outings. Specifically parties! Reverse milestone parties like "missy can't keep her pants dry any more even if she really really tries" structured as a tea party. Or maybe a bake sale when "Jennifer can't keep her brownies in the oven anymore". There the poor girl is giving away brownies when she's finally lost the ability to hold in her poops. An ultimate fantasy I have is an in birthing party which is almost entirely in the realm of fantasy. The best part is that it would be hypothetically possible to construct this device. What it is is an artificial womb the size of a person where the victim is forced into it and then born again days later. Much more than a week and the person might go insane. What you do is you have a large anatomically corect vagina made out of rubber (this has a massive rubber fetish connection). In reality it's a double walled heavey latex sack where there's a connecting tunnel between the out layer and the inner one. Between the layers is about a foot thick of non Newtonian fluid - you know that stuff that's hard when you punch it and soft when you push it (you can make it with corn starch). I don't know how you would force someone inside. I was thinking of a locking belt and a ratchet system non unlike an umbilical cord. Theyre then slowly forced inside as they struggle to escape. It becomes tricky if you have to force a hole between any of the layers of the latex from an engineering perspective. The easiest way is to have a loop at the far end of the vaginal caviticy and the the which motor would be run through that and back outside again. You'd have to strengthen and reinforce the vagina so it didn't turn inside out. You'd also have to make it so they could breathe inside and also would be cleaned when they mess themselves. (I'm assuming they go in naked and lubed up. I was thinking a long the lines of a helmet on the inside where they would be forced to put it on as the cavity fills with water, but I dont know. Having double sealed plumbing lines between the two layers to hand le theis would be easiest. It would also solve the winch problem. You'd have a line for water in, another for suction and water out. One for the winch cable, and another that had a mask with air and water feeding lines. Much like a gasmask (it might have built in audio and video for brainwashing programming and so they didn't go crazy). As soon as they put the mask on it disconnects from the wall, but it's a latex hood that cinches around the neck. As soon as they swallow the feeding gag and put in the Bose plugs the oxygen starts up. When they're fully cinches inside you flood the inside with water until the have to put it on. You might want a video feed of the inside but I dont know how you would make that happen. I'm also assuming at this point that they're bald. They're then trapped inside. Punching the walls will be painful because of the non Newtonian fluid so they'll be forced to make slow motion movements. You can use the vacuum to compress the sack around them while adding more non Newtonian fluid around the outside. You can vary the water pressure and the heat. At some point you'll want to "give birth". You disconnect the cable from the waist belt and then you simulate contractions by making the environment as uncomfortable as possible. Compression by non Newtonian fluid and then filling the sack with hot water. You then open the seal of the vaginal canal and let the water out and see if they'll fight their way out. The whole time you keep this thing in the living room of the house with pictures of the person over it. You invited family and friends over and have parties. For a week. By the end they'll come out kicking weak and crying. If you keep them on a strict high volume water diet they might end up being incontinent too. Then you hand them around to everyone that knew and respected them. That's hot.

>>42399 I remember something quite a lot like this, think it was the called "The Baby Hotel" (it was the same author anyways, same guy that wrote "The Babying of Her Younger Sister")

>>42411 Oh neat. Haven't read that one. Which chapter is it? Some other thoughts. Languages! Coupled with the pacifier dummy training you can make it so that after they go through that you teach them new words all over again but in a new language they don't speak. Then they'd have to start out with baby talk with a lisp while being all drooly which would be so cute. Furniture is also huge for me especially when it reinforces babyish activities. Bouncer swings where someone is velcroed into a seat and the bungy cords are strapped to the ceiling looks so incredibly fun! You can get these in Etsy by the way which is a gold mine for ABDL gear (not affiliated in any way). Pair that with mittens, a gag, a diaper with some suppositories, and the keys in a timer box on a cord within reach and the little will be forced to jumo around in a messy diaper until the timer runs out. The height should be adjusted so they're just standing on the balls of their feet and so their legs will get tired from standing and so they'll bounce up and down trying to avoid sitting in their yuck. Pair all of that with a vibrator and they'll be forced to come in their mess. Crib beds with locking tops with magnetic locks so the little can't get out on their own. Rubber sheets for the mattress and cartoon sheets. Segufix restraints for the arms, legs, and then the torso, especially so the little can't turn over if you restrain them on their stomach. An enema stand with a feeding gag and a bardex retention enema nearby. A baby monitor and a mobile custom built to play hypnotic sounds and flash lights that's just out of reach of the little above the bed. *Definitely* a potty training chart that should be on school sized poster board that the little makes and colors themself in the most humiliating design possible and it should be *big*. One thing that would be exciting is a brain wave monitor hooked up to a TENS electrical unit. You wait until rem sleep is detected and then you attempt mild electrical shocks on the bladder peaking in timing until it starts disrupting sleep and then backing off, learning and tracking as it goes. Paired with a wetness indicator over time you could make it so that electrical jolts in less and less frequency and power were needed for wetting until they wet in their sleep naturally. You might be able to force incontinence with this method in only a couple weeks if you include daytime naps. VR is a new thing, but it's too "scifi" for me. It seems like it would require too much cooperation by the little not to knock it off. Now a big screen tv, ear plugs, and a chair with straps is something else entirely. I like the idea of a play pen but I'd want it be big and functional. If you took a medium sized trampoline and had iron bars welded around it with a peaked roof and a gate it would work. You'd color the bars to make it look like playground equipment. Inside there should be giant bears with dildo and fleshlight attachments that the little would be severely punished for playing with. I like high chairs but I'd want the little to have the dominant towering over them. So a recliner chair with the feet propped up and then a tray out over it not unlike a custom wheelchair. Similar seats for car seats or wheelchairs themselves would be wonderful. Enforced long term sitting as a way to punish the little would be incredibly sexy. Straps at arms and legs and over the waist would make it so they couldn't get out. As for food, a blender would be essential. Puree everything! Anything to make the littles stool as soft as possible. Hollow butt plugs might be fun but pump plugs or anal plug tampons that they're forced to push out is up there too. Severe cramping with a plug that's just slightly too large in their bottom for twelve hours. They can go whenever they want. In their diapees. Someone mentioned a classroom setting somewhere and I totally agree. School desks and a chalkboard and maps and a world globe and a teacher's desk. Also a paddle on the wall and a sawhorse to be bent over if they get answers wrong. Timed tests and book reports and grade appropriate testing are all exciting, especially if you can switch subjects enough so they're always at a low grade level (cycling languages is one idea). I like the idea of having them watch cartoon shows and then write reports on what happened or risk being punished. I like the idea of a custom potty chair. Someone mentioned a heated seat that made it hurt after spankings which I think is neat, but I'd want a large backrest with a belt that made someone have the small of their back against a tense unit. A childish singsong voice would say "go potty!" while giving them shocks in their back every couple minutes. Rocking horses sound like a must have but I don't know how I would change them up to be more interesting other than add a vibrating seat like the rides you used to put a quarter in. Playground equipment! But all adult sized and improbably large. A tube maze where you can lock people inside and then only have one exit, with a diaper and suppository for encouragement. I also like the idea of locking ankle reins on bungee cords that are super long so you can lock the little in the park around the playground equipment. What else? Chastity devices. I want to like these so much, but they're tricky. For a girl you risk yeast infection but with the right belt and cleaning it's ok. For the guy the fit can be difficult because they can get blue balls or it can damage the penis. Plus it tends to be a sissy specific thing. If there were a chastity cage that worked then the elements that I would emphasize in the stories would be how the dominant woman would use their sexuality to cause the little pain. I've seen this in a bunch of stories where the woman will excite the little until they squeel and beg to be treated like a baby so they don't get hard in their cage. Thats fascinating as a punishment method. There isn't much of an equivalent in the female side of things.

>>42423 >Which chapter is it? Don't know, you're sure to find it with a quick skim or a little ctrl+f "birth"

>>42423 Ove been reading a shit ton of asylum stories and pictures and I like the idea of a doctor's office connected to a rubber room. Ideally the entire thing sounds a bit like the porn set that kink.com had back in the day with the San Francisco armory. I don't know, ideally it wouldn't be for porn but more of a large house for a dls in the story. Someone mentioned the baby hotel which is a bit what it sound like. So the rooms would be. - A foyer or entrance hall with a closet for goats and whatnot. - Master suite for the adult or adult couple that lived in the house, most likely in a second floor. it would have its own bathroom connecting to the bathroom. - There'd be a guest bedroom also upstairs. - An upstairs toilet with shower and bath. All of these would be normal-ish. Possibly some restraint hooks in load bearing supports in the ceiling of the master bedroom, bit it would all be mostly vanilla. - Downstairs you'd have a dining area with a table and chairs. Also vanilla as the baby high chair can be put away. - there'd be a living room that would also have the playpen so the area would have to be quite large and open to the second story. You'd also have to be able to disassemble the play pen and be able to put it away in a nearby storage closet. Otherwise vanilla. - the kitchen would be a normal kitchen with stove sink island counter and dishwasher. Normal. - there'd be a garage. Also normal. Typically you'd have the dungeon be in the basement, and it's rare to have a third story on a house unless it's a row house which this is not. But I'm putting it there anyway. The entire floor is the nursery including a bathtube and shower with a toilet. A flight of stairs that open up into one big area (so no walls between the toilet/shower area) would make the area be more infantile in my opinion. That section would be tiled with a drain, but no walls. Doing something to the toilet (and not the potty training toilet) to make it look more humiliating would be amazing. Make it all gold so it looks like a kings thrown and then do the nursery up in a fairy tale style. The other advantage is that you can lock the upstairs and then tell the guests that it's just an attic. You could possibly have the playpen up here along with the bouncy swing, the tv area and a play matt with toys. There would be two entrances to the basement which would be split. One entrance would go to a small basement area that was only so big as to have the water heater and the electric and for show for the guests. If they needed to go into the basement for some reason. Furnace water heater electrical box in as small a space as possible. The other basement would be accessible by another door that would just be locked and vanilla guests would be told it's a closet. Downstairs there would be the classroom, the doctors office with a rubber isolation room, an area for paddles, ball gags and other toys and so on. There would also be an area that would be more of a traditional bdsm dungeon. It would be an open floor plan with the exception of the isolation room off the doctors office and a barred gate to go in and out of the dungeon (so it doubles as a prison or timeout area) that has an airlock style double gate to go in and out of. I have absolutely no idea how to make an adult sized playground in the backyard for the story. Unless you had the head of the family work for a playground equipment company and then that would make sense for "product research. If there was a tie in for that you could perhaps makes semi kidadult room filled with toys on the second floor that would be for "product research purposes" and might double as an office.

>>42445 https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=docs;ox=showpart;idp=7140 They anesthesitize her and put her in a box. It's ok, I suppose the story is more about the characters emotional state, but I'd have liked to see some design specifications. Imagine this as a an art installation with a performing artist like a magician or escape artist. That would be something.

>>42447 One of the things I find weird in the stories is that the meds always weird dynamic where each location is a set piece for the most part and emotional resonance independent on the scene. A bit like a sapir-worf hypothesis but with places instead of words. I believe there's another similar theory for spaces. - the cage is always for sharing secrets - the restaurant is always for an embarrassing meal where the little can't eat properly - the park is always used as a "this is where you're humiliatingly supposed to act like a kid" - movie theatres always involve wetting accidents - doctors offices are always for exams - there's the preschool where someone volunteers and ends up stuck there - schools are where most of the action takes place but I'm not as much into stories with high school students (it just doesn't do anything for me) and so are the most narratively interesting. That's one of the reasons I like reformatories where someone is dropped off by a parent or guardian which has ties into the institutionalization fetish. I find outpatient more interesting because you have a loving dominant figure and gentle femdom with a partner is an in button. I also find "community" stories where everyone is in on the dominance to be more interesting, such as the diaper dimension series or Twiztid which is sometimes hard to remember exists. I don't know what other places there are in terms of set pieces in stories. Car trips always involve a car seat and then a terrifying reveal that makes the little struggle to get out demonstrating their powerlessness. - there's the grandmothers or neighbors house where the little is taken somewhere to be behavior conditioned or is brought to "the other little" which is often used as a character foil. This can then involve a slumber party scenario. There's also the "stealing diapers from the neighbor kid you're babysitting" trope. -theres the abandoned factory or robot baby scenario where someone breaks into an area and is babysat by robots. Similarly the holodeck in Star Trek. - there's office humiliation usually involving accidental wetting and the use of diapers publicly l. Which refers to the omorashi scene. But that's it. The mall is sometimes used but rarely and arguably more in older stories. In many ways it's a bit strange and is a broader commentary on how few public spaces exist within the US communities. Seeing as at its heart I think of ABDL stories as adventure stories you'd think there would be much more in terms of not only the fantastic, but ways to humiliate someone in public more. I'd like to see more stories similar to the Amazon diaper dimension universe where a community actively trades ABDL littles among them to humiliate them. Something along the lines of "we have this ABDL toddler and now instead of working they live in this alternate social context where they're babysat by dozens of people and sleep in new houses every night". Something like a floating harem maybe set in a fantasy or scifi setting. That would be socially interesting. Work I've seen done in this context has been Eudaemonia by Evil Dolly which remains one of the best fetish stories in terms of world building written in the last forty years. The idea of a humiliating but socially excepted split society I find interesting from a fetish perspective.

>>42108 and don't get me started on the transphobia. you shit your pants because it gets you hard. you have no right to determine what is and is not cringe.

>>42458 Everybody sucks.

>>42449 Ok I saw this one and it made me super excited. There's this idea of someone gets in trouble and they have to buy a mega case of hundreds of dollars of diapers. Say 12 packs of 10 diapers and being changed twice a day - so that would be two months in high absorbency diapers! You change them once in the morning and once right after dinner. If they're careful they might be able to time most of their messy accidents at night, which would encourage night time messing. These are 5000 ml diapers. Any leaks or blowouts and you have to change them into a third diaper for the day which means they'll cut down on food and drink more water. Who wants to sit in a mess or be stinky? It won't happen often but when it does you buy a sample pack of three print diapers! So that's an extra day *and a half* in diapers. Any time they go through three diapers in a row, you just buy that many more. You can total them up at the end of the week. You definitely don't allow more than three diapers changes in a day. That means there's hard and fast rules of what being allowed to try potty training means. Being on potty training means only diapers *during the night* and then pullups during the day meaning frequent trips to the potty and accidents. Pair all of this with a summer break scenario and that means that if they get in trouble or have a blowout 15 days in a row they won't be in pullups during the day before school starts again.

>>42543 Here's another idea that goes a long with the above. High volume retention enemas before the second diaper at night and then a trip to the toilet to let it all before diapering for the evening out for two weeks. Expect some messing afterwards but not as much. Then you stop doing that while feeding them a little (not much) Imodium. You then promise a blistering spanking with the paddle and a painful large butt plug for several hours once they do break down and mess themselves. Tears and screaming should be involved. It would be a way to introduce them to diapers. Making messing scary but wet diapers mandatory would be both confusing and create anxiety because it's hard not to do both after you've been in diapers long enough. So afterwards you make any messy diapers involve a paddling if they were messed during the day which is checked during their evening diaper change. Any diapers that aren't messed during the night will mean a suppository right after a change so they'll have messy diapers for several hours - and a change at lunch. Either way they'll have to buy three more diapers (although the spanking adds an extra diaper and the suppository doesn't).

>>42544 Anyway, I'm so jealous of these scenarios. It's not like it would ever happen in real life to me with a hot amazon workout mommy with a paddle and a changing table. 😅

>>42547 Drugs and diapers with pot are another turn on but for me would constitute edge play. So here what you do is get someone into eating pot food with being a baby with either laxatives or dirutics (or both!) whenever they play baby. Leading to the picture below. Then you do the switch. You dress them in little clothes and have them go out in public with a vape with severe punishments for werrint and messing. A spanking and a trip back into diapers. Then you slowly make it so that over time you switch it so that whenever they're out of diapers you have them smoke pot. Reward them with a trip out of diapers by "potty training" them with pot - well if you can keep your pants clean and dry while high then I suppose we'll let you try without diapers. Eventually they'll normalize diapers and make it so being out of them feels trippy! Definitely edge play but hot nonetheless.

>>42549 Another big one is a regression clinic with large amounts of forced diaperings. I wish that were me so bad 😅🧷

Adult adoption! That's sexy!

>>42552 No wait we can go darker. What you do is you put a little in spiked booties until they forget how to walk. The what happens is you use the ABDL bouncer so they have to use it as physical therapy so they can learn to walk again. Yep.

What are anons thoughts on girls bullying another girl into diapers for being small, flat chested and essentially babylike? Sort of a female version of the PID perhaps?

>>42575 I much prefer that idea over the PID stories. I've had a few thoughts about a setting for that kind of story where some small percentage of girls (maybe 10-20%?) naturally stop developing early and end up stuck as perpetual children. The lucky ones might end up stopping at 14 or 15 - just a bit short and with small boobs - while the really unlucky ones might stop at age 4. Because the condition is frequently associated with potty accidents, clumsiness, low intelligence, and other childish deficiencies, it's seen as quite normal in society for girls like that to get treated as children and even adopted by their normal friends or siblings, It varies a lot between individuals though, so for every toddler-sized girl who needs to use her fingers to count there's an equally small one with the aptitude to study STEM subjects at university. Society loves stereotypes though, so both can expect to get treated more or less the same by all but their closest friends.

I had an idea the other day about a world where "no fap" was required to grow. If you were a little gooner you're height, muscle mass, and penis/boobs would end up staying small. Jerking and flicking were also related to bedwetting and daytime accidents so it's not uncommon to see a gooner types in pullups. Anyone tall and muscular had to have control of themselves and only engage in sex with a partner. If you were a small type that was getting close to retaining enough to grow up a little a bully might jerk them off to ruin their streak and keep them small and tease them relentlessly about it. A hot chick might flash a guy knowing it would be something he jerked about later. I thought about prisons where offenders are required to goon to make sure they can't reoffend and they come out the size and muscle mass of an elementary school kid. There are also nannies parents can hire that encourage gooning for there charges and they end up being small forever cause there parents like them that way.

I don't know if anyone suggested something like this but the "everyone sees you as a kid/baby" thing is pretty cute I think. Seen it done a few times.

I remembered one I really liked years ago. There was a story called The Nanny Protocol where this guy leaves his wife for a smoking hot sex robot. The wife gets back at him by reprogramming the robot into his nanny and the robot is far to strong for him to resist. I love the idea of the former sex submissive robot turning into the mommy dom.