>>309513 Let them try and we'll just throw Bayonetta's character critique by saint, martyr & saviour Joshnita Mcinteesian right at their faces

First they hate her because MUH MALE GAZE and FIGHTING FUCK TOY bullshit and now they like her because she's in Smash? They really are just parasites that latch onto anything they think will help their narrative.

>>309517 Bayonetta is practically a second-party character for Nintendo, since they funded the second game and made it a Wii U exclusivity. Can't say the same about DoomGuy (I still believe Blazkowicz was more important than him).

>>309516 >>309540 > "Everything about Bayonetta is designed to attract males, but when Bayo makes it into Smash then it doesn't attract males, it scares them". Nice logic, perma-victims.

>>309663 It is the same as pretending there are no female protagonists then claiming e3 as a decisive victory due to their shitposting. pic unrelated

>>309540 >In my Fucking Fuck Toy video. wut

This is a brilliant opportunity to drive the wedge between normies swept up in PC fever and the hard line SJWs like femfreq and others. All we need to do is public praise bayonetta, agree with the softcore feminists that she's a good character, etc. However, any SJW e-celeb that's shat on Bayo for being fighting fuck toy trope needs to be sent the archive of their previous post for all to see. Driving the wedge on the soft core, trying to make them publically denounce e-celebs they previously agreed with isn't a winning strategy. The cognitive dissonance will be mind blowing but it pushes them away from us. With respect to history being revised I'd say it's half intentional, half Hanlon's razor. Tl:dr: Time to drive the wedge, go easy on the normies, hard on the ecelebs and journalists.

>>309513 What is feminist to claim in Undertale? I mean, look at Alphys, she deliberately engineers problems so she can solve them and be the her- nevermind that's modern feminism.

>>309735 That was her second listed video for the series and she and McIntosh are just now getting to it. Expect it to be released early 2016 around Feburary/March and it's nothing but lambasting every sexy kickass girl like Bayonetta, DOA, Street Fighter, KoF, Soul Caliber, Golden Axe, etc.

>>309742 But it's /Fighting/ Fuck Toy? There's an actual tweet with her name for the trope written correctly, so it's not like that image was made up but - huh

>>309741 How about we start with Undertale's overt anti-violence message and the fact that it has multiple gay characters for no other reason than to make a political statement?

>>309753 The first "gay" moment is with a skeleton who doesn't even know what dating is and even turns you down because he "doesn't like you that way." Plus the main character could be a girl, it's never really made obvious. The second is two guys in sweaty armor and it's an obviously a joke. It reminded me of those two fat guys in I think Pokemon GSC who were facing one another, one's back to the other, and when spoken to, they respond along the likes of "Is it weird there's two big guys standing next to each other" The third is Mettaton who is ridiculously fabulous and camp, but otherwise sexuality is never brought up. And finally there's Undyne and Alphys, which is completely unknown until the end and is also played for laughs and poked fun of throughout, even by Mettaton during the quiz game. If anything, this goes AGAINST the narrative because they hate when gays are the focus of the joke. I have no idea how this is a political statement at all. The anti-violence thing is just done as a twist on what is usually expected in a video game. You kill random things to level up. But what if those random things had lives and were friendly all along, and YOU were the monster to them? Plus the extent to which the game changes and focuses around killing everything doesn't exactly make that "antiviolence" message work. People WILL kill everything to get that ending.

>>309754 Sorry but this just sounds like a completely subjective interpretation to me.

>>309756 No more subjective than your own

>>309756 If it's subjective then why are you correcting me like your interpretation is an objective fact? I certainly didn't see it the way you do, I thought the gay characters were gay as a sort of soapbox attempt, like, "wow, look how normal this is, am I right anita?"

If you want to do more than bitch and whine, start hunting for info. To make a case for hypocrisy we will need: * Examples of people condemning Bayonetta as anti-feminist. Names, dates, URLs, archives. * Examples of people praising Bayonetta as feminist. Names, dates, URLs, archives. After collecting the info, look for patterns of people saying the same thing at the same time. >>309516 and >>309540 are a start, but a total of two tweets does not mean anything.

>>309517 >be Doomguy in Smash >can't attack upwards >can't attack downwards >can't duck >can't jump Worse than Dan Hibiki in Street Fighter.

>>309763 Yes because we all know that every character in Smash plays 100% accurate to their source. You know how Duck Hunt dog's only moves are to bark, pick up ducks and giggle at the screen?

>>309513 Almost makes me want to go out an buy a new console just to play this game with this character. I wonder if there will be the usual whining about "hurr durr sexualises women hurr durr something something"

>>309516 What a two-faced cunt. Feminists have been trash-talking Bayonetta for fucking YEARS.

>>309742 >Golden Axe Oh for fuck's sake She goes after the one game that has a male wearing just a thong

>>309753 What does level of violence have to do with feminism? That's some Full McIntosh level thinking, Leader. They're completely unrelated issues. Jack Thompson doesn't give a shit about feminism but spent years campaigning against video game violence. Valerie Solanas is still hailed as a feminist icon, but unironically advocated killing all men and then shot a guy.

>>309517 I want Doomguy too but holy fuck that salt >Burn in Hell Iwata TOP KEK

>>309853 Did she really talked shit about a game were there's nothing sexist? Yeah, the amazon was wearing a swimsuit, so did the barbarian. Also, the reward for beating the game wasn't rescuing a princess but rescuing the king & queen.

>>309855 Not talking about feminism in particular, but I'm pointing out how it definitely caters to SocJus.

>>309876 SocJus are some of the most pro-violence people you'll meet, though. They just want a monopoly on deciding where it gets aimed. That part of Undertale really has nothing to do with their agenda.

>>309619 >If they abandon Joshnita on this, it means the SJWs are losing. Sarkpuppet is just Mary Whitehouse with dwindling Intel victimbux at this point. She was even e-begging for a new mac. Guess powder is expensive these days and she's burned through all the donations.

>>309735 Armenians like to say fuck a lot.

>>309513 cool

>>309763 You can shoot upwards and downwards in classic Doom, and it's actually automatic, you just have to nail the horizontal aiming.

>>309517 I'm interested in what convoluted process you would have to go through to make Doomguy a viable character in Smash.

>>310022 he makes about as much since as solid snake did

>>310173 The Twin Snakes exclusive on GameCube. Doom in all its games was multiplatform and not at least 1 nintendo exclusive iirc.

>>310437 Doom 64 was pretty different from other versions of Doom, if I recall. It's more like a spinoff.

done

https://youtu.be/E1xIkPAcoYY?t=3s A good advice from Bayonetta to Anita Sarkeesian.