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Sad Puppies 4 Leader of GamerGate 01/29/2016 (Fri) 02:35:25 Id: 58c0c2 No. 314360
Nominations for the 2016 Hugos have now opened for the Sci-Fi and Fantasy literary fans - the awards being held later in the year. After last year's 'No Award' Hugos - 'Burn It All Down!' - who knows what will happen this time around. Sad Puppies 4 (their 4th year for those who don't know) have been up and running for a while now - you can recommend/see what's been recommended here - http://sadpuppies4.org/sp4-recommendations-pages-and-faq/ Meanwhile, the triggerati have been up to their usual tricks - this time trying to stop retailers from stocking books by dem dirty no-good wrong-thinkers who have taken part in Sad Puppies - https://archive.is/nKVHf
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>only actual choice Choochoo delivers some right-think.
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Hugos round up: Couple of No Awards - including applause for No Awards - sjw declaring victory + the Puppies losers, winning speeches containing the words 'diversity', 'oppression', 'privilege' and follow up articles on how the 'right-wing' failed to sabotage the awards. You could have written that any time in the last 12 months. Tweet quoted in the pic is telling: >genre changes The genre is Science Fiction and Fantasy, sjws think it should be sociopolitical commentary. That's a different genre.
I can't tell. Did we win? Explain our victory.
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>>326869 According to sjws, Sad Puppies lost - completely missing the point about what the Puppies stand for. Author Larry Correia set up Sad Puppies to show that the Hugos had become more about political bias than a book award. Either unaware of this or willfully ignoring it, sjws continue to spout gender politics and all reaction to them is shouted down as right wing activism - completely proving Sad Puppies point. This year Sad Puppies was led by 3 women, but, seen as inconvenient, this has been overlooked by the media - who would make themselves look bad by attacking 3 women - instead focusing on Vox Day who runs the Rabid Puppies. The 2 Puppy groups work independently of each other but sjws have lumped them all together in order to push the right wing/MRA/etc narrative. Sjws are still at it on social media - virtue signalling and banging on about how the Puppies lost and linking to all the articles that have since appeared in a massive 'We won! Diversity yay! Right wing boo!' circlejerk. Most of these sjws probably have no idea that the Sad Puppies was run by 3 women this year -they only read their own biased media who won't print that part of the story. Point any of this out to sjws and the response is → see pic. A Sad Puppies 'win' is showing the Hugos has become about politics over sci-fi books -sjws still can't see that. After last years Hugo meltdown you'd think sjws would do things differently (anyone else would), but sjws lose again.
>>326870 Maybe next year we should focus on a victory condition that doesn't require multiple paragraphs to explain how it is a victory?
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>>326875 >According to sjws, Sad Puppies lost - completely missing the point about what the Puppies stand for. >A Sad Puppies 'win' is showing the Hugos has become about politics over sci-fi books That's all the explanation. the rest is a summary of the whole for faggots + lurkers who want a bit more background/context. Here's a bit more guff: Regarding the Hugos, sjws think the 'battle' is about which authors win an award - sjw approved or Puppy approved. When it's all sjw approved award winners, they claim victory and shout about how the Puppies lost. The Sad Puppies don't care about this - they're looking at the bigger picture - in that the whole awards are politically biased - and said that it's just a bonus if any Puppy nominated author wins an award. Sjws do everything from a political standpoint and think because they do, then everyone else does too - hence they think -or rather assert - that the Sad Puppies are all acting from a right-wing stance, not an apolitical one. As for the Hugos 2017, so it goes, the sj clique have changed the rules to weigh more heavily in their own favour - further reinforcing the point of the Puppies.
>>326884 Forgot this bit- Neil Gaiman won an award for Sandman Overture -he didn't attend but the winners speech he wrote was read out - including the part saying that anyone calling themselves 'Puppy' was a 'sad loser'. Doubtful if he knows anything about the Sad Puppies -or that this years was run by 3 women -and is just parroting the socjus party line, but shoe on the other foot : Imagine if someone - a man - at an awards show called 3 sjw women 'sad losers' - talk about colossal outrage. There would be misogyny articles every day for weeks - and that'd just be from the Guardian, never mind all the others.
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It'l be hard to top the lulz of this year's Hugo awards
>>326884 >Gamergate tarot Unrelated to the thread, but is there a series on this? This is relevant to my interests.
>>326914 Now you mention it, aside from the GG comic strip, I've not really seen any GG series pics. Don't know of any multiple pics of the same theme either -say like a set of 'Vivian 4 seasons of the year' or something. All I've got are one off pics. Ask around, post in the draw thread -someone always knows more.
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>>326928 Dammit posting a reply about pics and not posting a pic. GG pics all (almost all) on currently defunct other machine -it went green screen (thanks Microshaft).
>>314366 epin baitpasta oldfriend
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Following the Hugos is the much bigger scifi event Dragoncon - with it's own Dragon Awards. http://dragoncon.org/ With the Hugos still very much controlled by socjus, talk on social media is that the Puppies, and scifi/fantasy fans in general, may as well ditch the Hugos altogether and turn to the Dragon Awards instead. Aside from books + comics, the awards include film, tv and games. Voting is also open to anyone, not just members. http://awards.dragoncon.org/2016/04/04/official-press-release/ May end up that while sjws carry on their own Hugos circlejerk, everyone else moves elsewhere.
>>327064 Fuck that. Why not participate in both?
>>327131 Do what you like. Sjws have shown this year and last that, with the Hugos, if you're not singing from the socjus songbook you don't get a look in. The awards are already losing their prestige. It's also up to individual fans whether they can afford it -voting in the Hugos requires paying a membership fee - for the Dragon Awards voting is free.
>>327157 >with the Hugos, if you're not singing from the socjus songbook you don't get a look in That's the entire point. The campaign is all about exposing that the Hugos are run by an ideological clique that don't vote on merit but aim for ideological conformity and the nepotistic support of their friends. Every time the Hugo slate is filled with a wide range of quality authors that either aren't friends with the clique or don't agree with them politically, it exposes the SJWs when burn down their own award to stop people with different political beliefs from getting a look in. I don't see any reason to just give the SJWs a free pass to be bigots. Make them live up to their own purported standards or eat shit at every opportunity that you can.
>>327196 Yeh I hear you - I was thinking of the longer time-frame, with the Hugos being a yearly event. 'The sjws only award themselves' is another message to spread. They'll lose relevance, sow the seeds of their own downfall. Authors are already wising up to it, just takes time. It used to be that sticking 'Hugo Award Winner' on a book meant an increase in sales -now I see a lot more comments like 'If it says Hugo winner, I avoid it.' Sjws like to think they can control the medium via publishing -but the rise of indie/self-publishing negates that -authors can create their own success (and sell way more books than the socjus clique). For those who don't know, self-publishing has been largely spear-headed by Amazon - authors can write what they want -and to socjus, this makes Amazon the Devil.
>>314415 A lot of these people involved in sad puppies were proto-SJWs themselves. I'm from the gun part of the internet. Places like thehighroad were being colonized by SJWs and a bunch of them became mods, then started turning their shit tier fiction into books, networking with each other to get publishing deals. Now they're suddenly "anti-sjw" but I can show you guys some crazy shit from the old TheHighRoad days
>>327239 I'm pretty much of the opinion that Sadpuppies and Rabidpuppies are separate groups at this point. SPs are the ones with better PR, and RPs are the anti-SJWs.
>>327271 Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies always were separate groups. It's only the media that lumps them together to spin a certain story. SP is a mix of people, whereas RP is basically Vox Day's own platform.
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Winners of the Dragon Awards have been announced today - Best Science Fiction Novel - Somewhither: A Tale of the Unwithering Realm by John C. Wright Best Fantasy Novel - Son of the Black Sword by Larry Correia Best Young Adult/Middle Grade Novel - The Shepherd’s Crown by Terry Pratchett Best Military Science Fiction or Fantasy Novel - Hell’s Foundations Quiver by David Weber Best Alternate History Novel - League of Dragons by Naomi Novik Best Apocalyptic Novel - Ctrl Alt Revolt! by Nick Cole Best Horror Novel - Souldancer by Brian Niemeier Best Comic Book - Ms. Marvel Best Graphic Novel - The Sandman: Overture by Neil Gaiman Best Science Fiction or Fantasy TV Series - Game of Thrones – HBO Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Movie - The Martian Best Science Fiction or Fantasy PC/Console Game - Fallout 4 by Bethesda Softworks Best Science Fiction of Fantasy Mobile Game - Fallout Shelter by Bethesda Softworks Best Science Fiction of Fantasy Board Game - Pandemic: Legacy by ZMan Games Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Miniatures/Collectible Card/Role Playing Game - Call of Cthulhu Roleplaying Game (7th edition) by Chaosium Inc. That was today's news. Tomorrow's news - in response to this - will consist of salt, virtue signalling, white knighting, links to the Guardian, etc . . . Also derisory hashtags on social media, probably containing the word 'white'.
>>327239 >Now they're suddenly "anti-sjw" but I can show you guys some crazy shit from the old TheHighRoad days Nu? What are you waiting for? Show.
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>>327636 >Best Science Fiction or Fantasy PC/Console Game - Fallout 4 by Bethesda Softworks I CANNOT CONTAIN MY FUCKING RAGE I DON'T KNOW HOW THE FLYING FUCK THESE FUCKING MORONS CAN FUCKING JUSTIFY THAT THERE WAS A FUCKING SYNTH RECLAMATION DEPARTMENT THAT TOOK UP A FOURTH OF THE FUCKING INSTITUTE AND THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE ACTUALLY THAT ENTIRE REBEL SYNTH THING MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE AND THEY WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOOD SCIENCE FICTION???? BULL FUCKING SHIT
>>327787 I haven't played it and don't plan too - what didn't make sense about it?
>>314432 archive got deleted?
>>327221 >It used to be that sticking 'Hugo Award Winner' on a book meant an increase in sales -now I see a lot more comments like 'If it says Hugo winner, I avoid it.' I wonder if there's a way to market that. Start putting stickers on all the "losers" books. Maybe: "Didn't get a Hugo, so probably a good book." or "Got a Hugo No-award" I'd make it a personal point to buy the books they avoided.
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>>327883 It's here: http://archive.is/CwNUN Still as bad. >>327884 'No Award' stickers is a great idea. Baen Books might do it -probably not the other publishers.
>>327969 >'No Award' stickers is a great idea. Castalia House (aka. Vox Day's publishers) might actually go for it. Should raise this idea to them.
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Some literary related nonsense so posting here. Ausfags may have caught this one -from the Brisbane Writers Festival -where author Lionel Shrivers delivered a speech - 'Fiction and Identity Politics' - basically calling out the idea of cultural appropriation and hoping it's just a 'passing fad'. And . . . . triggered. Unsurprisingly there was a backlash from snowflakes for this heinous wrongthink -one of them walked out during the speech -and then wrote an article about it in the Guardian: http://archive.is/W34Nr -The intro of which is kind of 'all about me'. Turns out some of the snowflakes were reacting having not heard the speech - well gosh - which then turned up, also in the Grauniad, a few days later: http://archive.is/TRyZg Worth a look - especially if you've not heard about the sombreros.
>>328134 >The stench of privilege hung heavy in the air Someone wrote that.
>>328135 Sounds like a Hugo award winner.
>>328134 My god, this writer - and her editor - are so out of touch she contradicts herself in her summary: > The opening of a city’s writers festival could have been graced by any of the brilliant writers and thinkers who challenge us to be more. To be uncomfortable. Yet she wrote this entire rant - which the Grauniad dutifully published - because the speaker challenged her and made her uncomfortable.
>>328136 Smell your privilege.
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Dumping this link here. Just a heads up. Although not recently updated this was/is not a site by the Sad Puppies - http://blog.sadpuppies.org/ Keep an eye out for false flags like this - they'll probably still turn up in searches even if the site is no longer used. Guessing there's similar sites out there - whether related to gg, games/gamers in general, or the puppies or comics etc - either set up just for trolling - or by shills trying to spread disinfo.
>>320272 >Erin Dies Alone What? Why?
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How to Revisionism - preaching (history) to the choir here - 'The Rise of Science Fiction from Pulp Mags to Cyberpunk.' http://archive.is/NA5Fa [All text no pics] It covers quite a lot but then throws in the usual mix of 'privileging' 'gender roles' 'toxic effects of capitalism' etc. -everything through the lens of muh feminism. Hints of 'maturity' and of being seen to be grown up too - that'll do it. Also 'male or female or gender fluid' - at which point some brain cells gave up. Gender fluid = stuff that squirts out of humans. I've already made that association - too late now.


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