>>8460 Would you take your daughter out to places for her to flirt with grown men?

>>8461 No, I would just let my daughter go out and play on her own without scheduling every minute of her day and keeping her under 24/7 surveillance because that kind of treatment cripples people when they become adults both functionally as members of society and emotionally as individuals. Children need to be allowed to have time to themselves to go out and do stuff for all sorts of reasons. If she wants to go somewhere that is too far away for a bike then sure, though. Children aren't the property of their parents, and are their own people. They need guidance and protection, sure, but they also need to learn things on their own and play and be free.

>>8462 >Children aren't the property of their parents, and are their own people. Antis hate this and want to either own kids or have the state own them, always.

It's very difficult because antis. If it were legal the child would introduce their potential lover to the other adults in their lives whom they trust, and they would be able to advise on any warning signs they see that the child missed. And if they see no warning signs they can give their blessing and watch a beautiful relationship blossom and grow for many many years to come.

>>8463 No matter how much they try to dance around it the fact of the matter is that all antis are the worst kind of authoritarians and genuinely believe it is moral to treat children as objects. >>8464 This is literally how it has worked across the entire world for most of human history except when there were political considerations for nobles in states where leadership was hereditary and alliances between rulers were made through marriage. Human beings are pursuit predators and social creatures. This means that we are very good at recognizing patterns (see: early man navigating using stars, how we approach problem solving and data analysis, "6th sense" and how easily we can recognize something being amiss) and learn via observing and copying others (see: how babies learn to speak/walk, how most people are trained when starting a job, what you instinctively do in a situation where you aren't sure how to proceed). This being the case, it makes exactly zero sense to remove children from the real world so completely that the world of a child and the real world are two completely different things. If a child cannot observe something, they cannot learn that thing. This includes sex and healthy relationships (including platonic ones, btw) but also how to handle adversity, failure, danger, how to spot someone trying to trick you, how to figure out something you don't know without someone else telling you what to do, and so on. In the modern world, a child is supervised 24/7 and has no control over anything they do whatsoever, everything is handled for them. They are constantly advised to "seek out an adult" when confronted with any problem at all. In school, they are taught to ask a teacher instead of how to do research on their own at the library or on the internet or even with the book that is provided to them by the school. A child that cannot do things on their own will become an adult that cannot do things on their own. A child that cannot form healthy relationships or spot red flags will become an adult that cannot do so. The only possible reason you would want this, is to teach children something other than reality while molding them into helpless adults that are reliant on some other entity to do anything.

>>8465 This escalating trend of isolating children from reality and robbing them of all autonomy, I think, is also the root of many other things both negative and strange. Some side effects of this is the epidemic of mental illness, an inability to perform socially, etc. Wizard/Robot/NEET/etc culture, formed largely out of a complete lack of social skills, may find it's roots here. The most coherent explanation I have seen is that if everyone learned how to play the piano from birth, and you had trouble, the only advice they would have for you is "just don't think about it and do it". In a situation where what a children can observe is severely limited and artificially controlled (or just outright artificial), then if they miss the first chance to learn it they simply never do. They have no opportunity to revisit that important lesson, and are instead dragged forward. Having missed the foundation, their failures compound until it is nearly impossible to fix and they become adults who are crippled in some fundamental way. Further, the system being generally fragile in terms of handling failure and faults means that most people go all the way through it without any significant failures at all. This is a problem in and of itself, but for the people who do fail it amplifies the very nasty psychological condition of failure. Jordan peterson said some stuff about the psychology of failure, and why it seems that failure brings more failure and success brings more success.

>>8466 TL;DR antis are retarded and are part of toxic system that, at nearly every conceivable level, not only harms children but also produces broken people and hurts all of society and everyone in it.

>>8466 >if they miss the first chance to learn it they simply never do. Also, for most of human history, any type of schooling wasn't divided by age, because, without modern population sizes and growth, you wouldn't be able to fill a room with a two dozen kids all within a year of each other. Just being born in the month of August has a measureable impact on a child's social life because they'll either by the youngest in their grade or oldest in their grade, and they'll be cut off from any friends they interacted with in preschool/daycare/whatever.

>>8468 I remember reading a book, though I can't remember the title, that explained why professional hockey players all have similar birthdays. If you are born at a particular time of the year, you end up a year older than everyone else playing hockey with you as children. This means you stand out as more talented, and have an easier time learning everything because your are more coordinated (and also just bigger). The system as it currently exists is actually built on the foundations of the kinds of schoolhouses you are talking about, and many things about the way we educate children haven't been updated at all in centuries. The segregation of age you are talking about is literally slapped on top of the system we were using to teach children on the frontier how to read. Even the subjects we teach, especially math and science, are outdated. The basic math curriculum in the entire western world hasn't changed since the 1500s, and you have to go through at least 12 years of schooling before you learn any physics past newton and you don't even learn that in the calculus newton made specifically to explain it.

>>8465 >>8466 Well said.

I just want to see cute little girls dressed up and flirting with boys in a way that isn't dangerous or degenerate.

>>8482 I just want to have cute little girls in sundresses and floppy sunhats flirting with me in a way that leads to sex

>>8482 I want to be that boy

First rule of flirting with older boys(as a little girl): Always be the one who initiates. Most boys are decent people, but the kind that actively seeks out little girls is fishy. If you're the one who initiates first contact, there is a low probability of them being a fishy person.

>>8487 I wish we lived in a culture where girls asking boys out was the norm instead of the reverse

>>8488 And I wish we lived in a culture where girls were raised to act like Omega-Class Semen Demons.

I wish we lived in a culture where there were no age of consent laws and I could marry this baby.

>>8490 You cannot marry drawings.

>>8488 i want a loli to femdom me too

>>8494 Not what I was thinking at all but I'll roll with it. What does a femdom relationship look like between an adult man and a little girl? It obviously doesn't come from physical strength, and it is unlikely to come from a gap in intellectual prowess or the little girl being the bread winner for the household. The only thing I can think of is that the little girl has the power to destroy the adult man by reporting him, but that doesn't sound like a healthy dynamic and it can also only exist in our current shitty world.

>>8491 a real version of her who is similar in appearance

>>8495 >What does a femdom relationship look like between an adult man and a little girl? Is this a stealth doujin request?

>>8499 >>8500 dubs point to maybe

>>8495 Bruh, femdom is just dominance in the bedroom. It doesn't require any sort of actual power advantage. Also, even adult women are weaker than men.

>>8517 I guess I am projecting how I feel about it. Femdom can be hot but it's hard to get into it if the dynamic isn't believable and it's 100% make believe. My point with strength differences is that the difference between a little girl and adult man is far greater than between a man and a woman. Plus an intelligent adult woman could reasonably apply social or intellectual dominance where a little girl can't. Like I said though, I'm probably just projeting how I feel about femdom rather than taking an objective look.

>>8519 >an intelligent adult woman could reasonably apply social or intellectual dominance where a little girl can't Are you sure about that?

>>8521 Yes, because I believe you are overestimating how fucked urbanite men are in the west. Every other male in a city that isn't a homeless lunatic or a gangster is a metrosexual failure of a person. The fact that it can't happen to you does not mean it can't happen at all, most people are retarded and weak.

>>8519 So you want a rich brat little girl to dominate you with her legion of loyal amazon women?

>>8522 I don't live in a city you dumb faggot, and I ain't no beta male. I meant are you sure a little girl couldn't do that

>>8523 Make it her army of super-strong loli robot friends and you have a deal

>>8524 I think you missed the entire point of my post, but I also misunderstood you so we are even. I'm like 80% confident the difference in life experience makes it too high a hurdle for your average child. There is a reason little kids suck at lying and hiding things from adults, yknow.

>>8527 >I'm like 80% confident the difference in life experience makes it too high a hurdle for your average child I'm 100% certain a girl of 8-10 years could understand some kind of femdom. >There is a reason little kids suck at lying and hiding things from adults Maybe if they're stupid, I was always a good liar

>>8529 When I used to teach little kids I just let them get away with lies because it just wasn't worth pursuing. At most you think you were a great liar because the adults didn't think most of your deceptions were worth addressing. I am 110% certain that every little girl is cute regardless of whether she understands femdom or not.

>>8532 >At most you think you were a great liar Yikes

The ideal mother for a little girl.

The manga "Looking Up To Magical Girls" has a femdom little girl. Each of these five dark magical girls has a sexual theme, and the little girl's theme is roleplay. She can alter perceptions, and turn toys into minions and traps. She doesn't do that much, though.