>>75 True, but she would need to either find a male strong enough to overpower your wife (easier said than done in Gensokyo) or restrain her beforehand. On the other hand, it means she will be very much conscious during the process (unlike with possession), but that also means there's no guarantee she'll enjoy it (unlike with possession), and thus a chance you won't hear your 2huwife moan wildly during sex while saying how much she loves his dick, which is very bad if you ask me. Still, i agree, she's remarkably versatile for this kind of stuff. I had an idea for a fic where Mizuchi possesses Reimu on the night of her wedding and gets the youkai miko knocked up by a lesser youkai in front of her husband, but between CDS delays (i wanted to see how the story ended first) and burnout in general, i never got around to writing it

>>18 The thought of my youkai wife leaving me behind and sending pictures of her naked body post sex every once in a while really turns me on. That said, i would stop at sex. Tengu aside, are there any other cameras in Gensokyo?

>>18 Thought it said beating the child at first. Obviously the ideal is that it goes beyond my comfort zone. If I get to have any say, it's that she can be around him. They can work together. There is nothing lewd with my consent. And without my consent, it goes as far as she wants short of leaving me. Once she's gone, there's just 0 appeal because I need the connection to care.

Writing something to derust myself after a month and a half of running in circles, unsure of what to write. In a garage sale at the Hakurei shrine, for the small price of a bag of rice, you had gotten your own personal maid, very nice! Bad at cleaning and much worse at cooking, but cheerful and pretty, a much needed presence of joy in your life. Ever since then, your days were spent in eachother's company; at first to keep an eye on her, lest she do something stupid, but that soon became an excuse (as good as any) to spend every second you could by her side. Master-servant relationship be damned, you genuinely liked her, and she seemed to return your feelings in her own strange way, so no harm no foul, right? Not quite. She was clumsy, careless, and quite dense at times; as fate would have it, her odd personality was a symptom of a much larger problem lurking in the back. Having gotten to Gensokyo in a battered state, only made worse by a decade of piling up dust at Reimu's storeroom, her malfunctions left several gaping holes in her logic processes. Unaware of this, you eventually entrusted her to run errands on her own. During a trip to the market, a merchant tried his luck with the maid, generously offering a large discount in exchange for some rather obscene "favors", a deal that she happily accepted without a single thought, unable to see any problems in a situation where there were this many. In the back of his shop, the fish seller's greasy hands left a stain onto her pale synthetic skin as he grabbed onto her waist, pounding her pussy relentlessly with a cock that was as fetid as his wares were. There was no risk of unwanted pregnancy nor any other kinds of long term damage, plus he was offering something nice in return as well; so even after he pumped enough seed to knock up an oni into her onahole-pussy, the robot maid saw no need to protest, not with him, and certainly not today.

>>93 It's efficiently written, puts together a lot of context and characterization quickly in a not-clunky way. I've been trying so many western VNs lately that I forgot some people know how to write. Ew though, absolutely nasty, but props anyway. >eachother two words >no harm no foul comma. no harm, no foul >company; at first to keep an eye on her Semicolon denotes independent clause, which needs a subject. It should be "at first you keep an eye on her" unless you change it to a comma, but I like the semicolon there. I hope you write something that isn't fetid, greasy, stinky, or ugly. Not that it's my choice, if ugly bastard NTR is the one kind you like, go off king.

>>94 Thanks. Got a lot of ideas for 2hu NTR but more often than not i get stuck trying to write things in great length and polish, which has gotten me nowhere for these past couple weeks. So i glued myself to the post box until i had something to show for it, and i really like how things turned out that way. >grammar and punctuation I'll keep these in mind next time. >I hope you write something that isn't fetid, greasy, stinky, or ugly Don't worry, i like NTR in all sorts of flavors. My next work is muscular woman x hung femboy NTR, hopefully it won't take another month and a half to finish.

>>95 You could try opening a text editor (for convenience) and typing a partially incoherent stream of consciousness for the story, then go back and rewrite it all, with your mess helping you stay on track. Like, I could sit here and shit out the total trash NTR for a thousand words with ease, myself. Nothing I'd want my name on. But it kind of puts the bones down that I can build on. None of the original text survives as I replace everything. Hell, often it won't even be the same structure. The whole plot can change. But having something—anything—to start with really helps grease the wheels. Even if it's as formless and amorphous as typing "And the she says something about 'oh what a big cock you have' and in my heart of hearts i knew she was trying to remove my concerns but I felt patronized and knew it was a lie. She makes some tea and then later at the book store she's with Chad Thundercock and he tells her how good The Gay Gatsby is and she sucks his cock" It's stupid, lacking substance, it's nothing short of a shitpost. But it is a start. And just replacing the first sentence can result in two paragraphs, with a pretty clear goal. I do not know if it would work for you, but I figure it can't hurt to tell you how I do break past that "staring and writing nothing" phase. >spoiler Warily optimistic but you seem to know what you're doing so it ought to be good.

>>96 Thanks for the advice. I usually write things piece by piece and then try to glue together the finished parts, i'll try this to see how it fares.

>>97 I hope it helps. I have seen touhou porn, but I don't actually know anything about the characters, so I can't really contribute to NTR. Best I can do is talk. >piece by piece and try to glue it together Never tried such an extreme of that. Sometimes I know a sequence I want in it and write that part on its own then write the parts that lead up to it. Never done large portions of it in disconnected pieces to glue together

>>101 The thing about Touhou is that there isn't much to "know" about 95% of the characters, most of them appear only once, are given a basic profile, and one or two character traits to their name if they're lucky. The series gives you very little to work with, but also a lot of room for creative freedom. Take Ruukoto for example, she only appears once in a single game, but in that sole scene we're shown that she's: A) Given to Reimu. B) A robot maid. C) Bad at cleaning. From A and her lack of further appearances, i concluded she was most likely shelved, and came up with the garage sale as a starting point; from B and C, i presumed she was malfunctioning, which served as a plausible enough reason for her to cheat (easily the most important part); the remaining gaps i had to fill on my own, but those little bits and pieces of official lore proved invaluable in doing so. >Never done large portions of it in disconnected pieces to glue together Not that large mind you, i usually lay down a barebones outline of the story divided in small parts, and then work on those separately whenever inspiration strikes. Messy, but it works, kind of.

>>106 >a basic profile, and one or two character traits to their name if they're lucky. Eh you know what fuck it. I'll just take a quick look at a wiki page and give it a try. <Youkai must maintain a certain level of fear to survive, but they avoid outright attacking humans Huh. That sounds like a good reason to cheat on someone you love. Make them anxious and scared, unsure of the security of their relationship. So now I need to make sure I pick a character that is a youkai. HOLY SHIT REIMU IS A TOTAL BITCH what the hell. I had no idea she was such a menace. Just a nasty person. I just wanted to grab some random youkai girl to throw into a spur of the moment smutfic and ended up reading Curiosities of Lotus Asia(ch 1-3) where they bully this poor youkai that Reimu even describes as "just minding its own business" when she jumped her, beat her up, and took her books that Reimu didn't even value because "They looked valuable to the youkai or something" And she's so rude and dismissive in general. Wife material. Anyway I found that quite amusing, but ended up there because Tokiko was the middle character in a list of Youkai on touhouwiki.net and picked her on a whim. Alright Here's the Touhou NTR written by someone that knows (almost)nothing about Touhou. https://pst.moe/paste/bmrekd Just a short little thing. Don't know if I could really do NTR with less than 10,000 words, since it really hinges on getting invested in the relationship and characters to hit. But youkai need human fear to survive? That's easily an entire novel's worth of potential. I wonder at the possibilities.

>>115 Fuck Reimu. Youkai feeding on their partner's fear is a very novel concept for a NTR fic, and the twist at the end got me real good too, good job. The only thing you got wrong was that no one in Gensokyo knows about computers, which should be a testament to how accurate this is. >Don't know if I could really do NTR with less than 10,000 words, since it really hinges on getting invested in the relationship and characters to hit To each their own, i personally prefer to focus on the act of cheating itself (why she's cheating, who she's cheating with, how she feels about it, etc).

>>118 >no one in Gensokyo knows about computers Rennosuke or whatever the shopowner is named knows of computers, just not about them. And the book Tokiko was reading was about computers. My thinking was she mentions "if we ever find one of those" without actually understanding how useful it would or wouldn't be. Read all you want about how non-Neumann computers can handle parallel datastreams, you don't have electricity if ever did find one. At least I don't think they have electricity. Which could be a fun scene if someone did a longer running fic based on this, where much much later they finally find one of these and there's a little "I told you it'd be useful" but it never turns on and accomplishes truly nothing. Curiosities of Lotus Asia involves the Tokiko's three books being the last three volumes of a 15-volume set of The Future of the non-Neumann Type Computer which is probably not a real book but such computers do exist. This architecture of computing is just not very relevant and faded to obscurity as the computer architecture we all know became dominant. >feeding on fear is novel for an NTR People are SLEEPING on this. The touhou wiki said the youkai have to surprise, haunt, or even threaten assault to get the fear they need to survive, but what better fear than being in love with one and getting cheated on? I also like things to be interactive, so I also wonder about how you could design something mechanical with it. Might work best as a female-protagonist one, where you're balancing trying to stress out your beloved human bf while progressively getting more personal thrill from playing around this idea of infidelity until you finally go too far and instead of misleading your boyfriend into thinking you might have done more, you shut it down and reassure him on impulse. Which scares him more. It shifts from being an overt tease to not wanting to do the NTR-play because you really did it for real and can't stop yourself from wanting to obfuscate that. You can't bring yourself to tell him you did lewd things with another guy because "revealing" that you actually did nothing and you're just playing with him is the real lie and you think he'll see through it. Which, that line of thinking feeds right back into how to write the story from the human's perspective and build that tension. Her sudden shift to not teasing and wanting to brush aside all that stuff makes you way more paranoid that she actually did something. I mean, you see what I mean? The core concept that youkai need fear to live is very potent. You can also take a more sadistic angle, too, and we all love wicked women, but wicked women can cheat in any plot so that's beside the point. >I prefer to focus on the cheating itself. There's a real skill to being able to imply and characterize a lot about the relationship in the midst of the action instead of building slowly. You showed you can be pretty efficient with that, I'm envious. I should read more short NTR smut and get a better feel for that style, it'd do me some good.

I spend too much time on these. >>119 Ah, that makes much more sense now. When living in a place sealed away from the world, a bookworm has to make do with whatever they get their hands on. >People are SLEEPING on this To be fair, they themselves probably didn't realize the potential for NTR it has, i know i didn't until you pointed it out. >I also like things to be interactive, so I also wonder about how you could design something mechanical with it Fun approach to writing. A good starting point would be to look into their abilities, some of them can be particularly useful for these kinds of scenarios, and for those that have none, a quick look into their story can work just as well. >I mean, you see what I mean? Yeah, i get you. It's quite flexible as a starting point that it could to pretty much anywhere, the youkai lover that crossed the line and wound up regretting it you described is a very good example, but how about a meek, gentle youkai who resorted to such tactics as a last resort, slowly descending into corruption as she not only actually cheats on him, but enjoys every second of it too? Or maybe a youkai wife, married for several years now, making you question whether or not you're actually the father of your children? Perhaps even a teasing youkai that acts too close with other men and simply handwaves away your concerns? She doesn't actually do anything behind your back and is more than satisfied with letting the sweet, sweet paranoia brew in her lover's mind, until you start to enjoy it, throwing a wrench and a half into her plans. >You showed you can be pretty efficient with that, I'm envious I'm flattered. Quite honestly, i only started to write little over two months ago precisely because of these threads, so it's reassuring to hear that from someone who knows more than i do.

>>120 >Fun approach to writing I believe if it takes the form of a game, you get more personally connected than just a linear story. Plus you can pad out the time the relationship builds with distractions like other plot elements and objectives until the player really comes to like their significant other. Then bam, you stick the knife into the player and slowly twist it. I'd love to make an RPG of some kind one day and try to make your relationship with other characters in the party feel really nice and deep and then put NTR landmines in that you don't see coming because you were too caught up in it being an actual game that you enjoy for other reasons and plot elements both rote and romantic that doesn't let you tap your foot impatiently. But game development is hard. >someone who knows more than I do Don't give me too much credit. I'm good at some things, bad at others. Writing is a broad skill.

>>89 Same here, regardless of whether it's with my consent, without it, or one leading to the other, everything will be fine as long as she keeps me by her side. >beating the child The other kids certainly will. Though that makes me wonder, how would the rest of the village/manor/wherever you'd live react to finding out you're a cuckold? Since there's no way you can keep a relationship like this under wraps for too long (with most 2hus at least).

Glad to see the ntrhu threads still cling on to life.

>>128 Slow and steady, we're doing our best to keep the spirit alive. Thanks for dropping by.

The Hakurei shrine maiden is, without a doubt, the most important person in all of Gensokyo, it's only natural to ensure each generation of them is the best they can possibly be, right? Thus, like many times before, Yukari has carefully selected a man of good genes to father the Hakurei miko's child. There was one problem though: she was already married. The sage's decision was final. Would the miko tell him, burden her husband with the knowledge that the child they'll raise together will not be his? Or will she keep him in blissful ignorance, shouldering the guilt entirely on her own?

I wish Chin made more Touhou NTR.

Reimu's a boy now, don't think too much about it, i certainly did not. On one side of the table, a man ate quietly, a modest serving of fish with some rice on the side. A lunch like any other, if not for the scene on the opposite side: empty bowls piled one after another, a woman wolfed down her food like a beast, with complete disregard for everything around. Though he did not show it, her lack of manners bothered him, yet more concerning was the "why". With the bloody aftermath of her last fight still fresh in his mind, nettled beyond reason she was preparing for a rematch, she should know the Hakurei was unbeatable by now. He knew well of futile endeavors, voicing his objections were one. The words wouldn't come out, he didn't have the guts to stand up, to her, to anyone around. He remained silent once more, this time when it mattered most. And she knew that already, his cowardice was all too familiar by now. She felt unfit to be a woman after being mistaken for a man so many times, yet next to him, she might as well have been one. Still, what could she do about it? Though a failure he may be, that's just the way he was. For his sake more than anyone's, she fought to keep her thoughts in check, such enthusiasm wasn't shared by Reimu, however, who wasn't feeling like it today. Impatient as always, bargaining was the next thing in line, if Reimu won she'll do whatever he wants. This bout was less violent as he clearly held back, the taste of defeat much more bitter for it, to him it was the other way around. Her sweat and blood was like a nectar when licked directly from her wounds, however few they might have been. His tongue ran across her chiseled body, and he loved every inch of it. Whether the stimulation or the compliments, she was drenched by all of this, made more evident as his fingers slid in and out, despite appearances he knew really well where to touch. And yet no amount of moans would wipe the troubled look on her eyes. Her body was finally sought after, at the mercy of a male's lust, but it wasn't her lover...he could never go so far. If he saw what was happening, would he even dare to fight back? Though bittersweet feelings persisted, at least her sour expression eased up. Her pussy quivered as she squirted shamelessly all over the mat, the cue Reimu needed to move onto the next act. The young miko stood up, his apparent innocence at odds with the truth. His pants taken out to reveal a beast sealed down on his crotch, with each talisman removed the demon rose up, throbbing and firm once all of them were gone. Her eyes widened in terror, no boy should have something that large. She was beaten and pinned down, her pleads for mercy soon rejected, no putting the brakes on it now. The samurai was about to be dominated, and deep inside, she looked forward to that. The pain of her first time was short lived, and the pleasure healed more than just that. Repressed feelings, buried desires, brought to life and set free at last. His masssive cock battered her womb with expertise, pounding her brain to mush, soon calling out his name with a passion, growing more attached with each thrust. His sacred seed was thick and warm, burning up her inner demons with each shot of it pumped inside. The first creampie of the day, and each of them far from being the last, always ensnared by her legs with a blissful look in her eyes. She begged him to be knocked up, to be forever at his side, to forget a certain someone, to leave that burden behind. When the flames of passion run their course, they still had eachother to keep themselves warm. Reimu laid to rest atop her body, sleeping soundly between her arms. That he went on for so long was a miracle, even as cum flowed out of her pussy she was still stuffed full, no doubt pregnant with his child. No regrets were left in her, all guilt was now reduced to ash, she truly felt like a woman for the first time in her life. This went in circles far longer than it had any right to, i'm glad it's done at last. I had some ideas to write the morning after, but for my own sake i decided to end things like that. Never again am i going to hold onto a story for so long.

>>146 There are technical errors, but in terms of prose, what stands out is a lack of description for the characters' appearances. She's a macho woman. I don't know anything about her hair, clothes, proportions. It also doesn't transition very well into the flashback of what happened. "she fought to keep her thoughts in check, such enthusiasm wasn't shared by Reimu" sounds like Reimu is there at the lunch >Whether the stimulation or the compliments It's all so vague and skipped over. You didn't write any compliments. He was telling her that he sweat and blood was like nectar? He told her he loved it? Should be more clear what he actually says and does. There's also very little sense of place for where the memory happened. >samurai That seems evocative. May have been more prudent to weave it in earlier. It comes across like what you're doing is the dramatic angle where the character is trying to move forward while weighed down by the events they rolling through in their head, doing something normal and day-to-day while replaying what happened. And that can work in NTR especially with things like frequently comparing the love to the other person and how those feelings have digested. But you take the reader out of the present moment pretty entirely, instead just going over the memory itself, but going over it so broadly and generally that it's not really doing anything for me. It needs more prose painting what this character looks like. And if you want this reminiscent style, it may be nice to have more of the present moment interacting with the way the memory plays. Personally, I'd prefer actually having the scene of the sex instead of a glossing over of it, but if you do want this style, then things like her handing the empty bowl to her beloved, his fingers twitching as they brush against her, his inhibition contrasting the fluid movement of Reimu's over her body, every motion natural to him. She furls her brow at him, and he averts his eyes, dodging any sense of a challenge, while not an ounce of doubt could be read from the miko's unconcerned look. And that she lost her virginity to Reimu over that fight seems like a more climactic point. It just sort of comes out of nowhere. Combined with 0 chemistry between these two nameless characters, it has no impact. I get no real sense that they even like each other. I don't feel a sense of her bitterness being that she she loved this guy for long and struggled so much to let him feel comfortable instigating intimacy, that she expected and wanted his gentle, caring, thoughtful touch, but he wouldn't go for it for that same gentle, inhibited nature, and finally someone treats her like a woman. Reimu touched her, Reimu lusted for her, Reimu let himself be a man. And now, even now, all she lets is the slightest scowl and her beloved is shrinking away from those steely eyes. She's wanted him so long, and he held back because he didn't want to do anything she'd dislike, and someone else did it first. And it was good. To some extent, it would feel like her boyfriend's fault. I think that's the idea you leaned toward, but instead of having wanted him so long, it just feels she doesn't like this guy. Still, not a bad read.

>>140 >>141 >>142 >>143 Married woman ntr is the best. Thanks for the dump!

OK touhou NTR I just saw. Source: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125424663 >>147 >>146 I'd like to add: I appreciate it and give critique with love. I like more NTR being posted and I hope it always improves so you can be the best NTR author ever one day

>>147 >What stands out is a lack of description for the characters' appearances My bad, i keep writing under the assumption that the readers know about the characters as well as i do (which is not very, mind you, but just enough for this kind of stuff), i really need to work on that. >It also doesn't transition very well into the flashback of what happened I went back and forth on my choice of words there for a while, the alternatives were cleaner in that regard and i didn't put much thought into it when i changed that around. >it comes across like what you're doing is the dramatic angle where the character is trying to move forward while weighed down by the events they rolling through in their head, doing something normal and day-to-day while replaying what happened I really fucked up there then, because it was supposed to be a straightforward telling of the events, chronologically speaking at least. Wording seems to be a problem in this one, i was too concerned with getting words to flow nicely that i overlooked their actual substance. >combined with 0 chemistry between these two nameless characters, it has no impact That is my biggest regret now that i look at it objectively. Reimu doesn't do much of anything beyond gently shoving the plot down a slope, and the only dialogue the guy has is to nail in the point that he's a coward, which didn't matter much in the end since the cheating was mostly out of her control. Actual dialogue and better pacing would have worked wonders here, but i don't like writing the former and i was at sitting my patience's ends so i never considered the latter (see below). >but instead of having wanted him so long, it just feels she doesn't like this guy The original intention was that she stuck with him because no one else wanted her, and that in spite of it he was a nice guy, that his company was (barely) better than none. But alas, i tried to be too concise with my writing, and wound up cutting some much-needed corners just to get this thing out. Most of the faults i attribute to my own impatience and exhaustion overall, i've been stuck with this for so long that i was only concerned with getting it off my back. I don't think there was a way around it however, over two months of running in circles with nothing to show for it has worn me down like nothing else has. It wasn't all bad at least, served as a good learning experience and a step up from my prior attempts to write anything long. Thanks a ton for the feedback. >>148 No problem, there's surprisingly not that many Touhou NTR doujins out there (that are actually translated), so i'll post more if find any.

>>150 >readers know about the characters as well as i do You never even name them. But also, it's just nice to read prose the paints a picture, even if you do know what they look like in a broad, general sense. >his company was barely better than none It is so far away from NTR. >tried to be too concise Brevity is the soul of wit, they say. It's a great talent to be able to say as much as you can in as few words. And you do have the ability to do that sometimes, but some parts of the story should be gushed and detailed more for reading pleasure. >stuck with this for so long and just wanted it done Valid. You learn a lot finishing something and reflecting on the mistakes instead of abandoning it. Get the weight off yourself and start writing something new! >Thanks a ton If you want a more technical tackling of the English grammar, spelling, and sentence structure, let me know. Didn't want to get into that unasked-for since this isn't Writing 101, but I can get into the weeds if you're interested.

Forgot I had this thread on the watchlist. Hope you've been doing well, NTRfriends. I hope you have a vivid sleep paralysis delusion of your waifu getting fucked on top of you.

>>166 Thanks.