>>23182 snooters will see this and say "my wife and our beautiful child"

>>23182 what? could've been worse

Move jackoffs: >>23187 >>23187 >>23187

>>23013 lots of people think the game isn't transphobic, enough that Nerd malded about it lol

>>22427 >>22633 first one

>>23154 >>23183(me) Another one, because I had to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZoq1eUK-s

>>23226 meatball?

Yeah

>>23259 >>23247 Linking posts is a pain sometimes

>>23176 You're good, and I wasn't expecting such a particularly long reply. >tired so a bit prickly used to it. I'll sum up my response so it is less of a headache to read. >melissa's only really there to fix em I see it as being more supportive and encouraging (especially in better routes). Greene seems as likely to not want to fix his problems as he is to hide them from others, so all the girls are gonna have to put some effort in to get him to a stable place. Janet will have to "fix him" to some degree too. >The Janet section Seems reasonable for the start of their friendship. >LESS likely to help due to father's problems So my thinking is that Kanye may be a bit deranged, but he is still (mostly) kept under control by Naomi Mel has learned how to deal with mental illness by being forced to assist her mother. I agree she would want an escape from that chaos via fantasy and chasing prince charming, and Greene having issues would spoil that fantasy. BUT, I think she would be pretty close to Greene when she finds out and choose step up, and help Greene before he becomes as bad as her father. Could even combine our interpretations together. Her initial thought upon learning of his problems IS to "Fix him" and that she alone could do it as she has experience with it. Which could definitely cause some conflict as she has to learn not to fall into the same pitfall her mom did with Naser and not try to control everything. Or hell, even Mia what with Ben and his pills. >romantic depth, proper development, etc I get it. I'll just point to the best romantic tropes that exist all being some variation of "true love conquers all" And it would take a nerd like Mel to believe in that. >Cynthia She can empathize with the negative aspects of Greene, because she's in a depressive funk like he is, just for different reasons. Misery loves company, but I can only see them downward spiraling unless Cynthia has, like, a LEGIT come to Jesus moment where she tries to turn her whole life around. Anyway, I hope you get some good sleep. Don't know if we'll butt heads again, or if I will be able to belch out as many longposts as I did today, but, it was an actual discussion at least.

>>23399 Not BD, but I am curious What do you think the reason for Cynthia's holdups and her "depressive funk" is, and do you genuinely think it's so severe that a girl in her teens needs a "coming to Jesus moment" to get out of it and turn her life around? An often overlooked aspect in even the games is that these characters are all kids in the grand scheme of things, despite what Snoot and Wani may have people believe, what you made of your senior year doesn't completely make or break a person and people have plenty of time to change even if they don't have things figured out before their 20s.

>>23523 >Not BD is that who I was arguing with? huh Anyway: Cynthia is a shut-in terminally online 4chan denizen ultra gooner that has grown up without any sort of filter and is most often being characterized as being just a genuinely difficult person to be around because she can't disassociate face to face interactions with those she has online. Her only form of humor is memes and being edgy. She sees no issue using /pol/ and /b/ talking points in casual conversation. She's like Anon, but far, FAR worse. Or maybe E1 Olivia is a better comparison? (you know, right before falling down the stairs) I assume she, on some level, realizes that what she is doing is not working, which would either spur her onto self reflection or decide that shutting herself away is the best choice for everyone. She does have time, but she may also just end up being a friendless NEET. I think it's why a fair number of Anons want a game set after or outside a school setting, because people CAN change later in life. School just works because there's just so much relationship drama in that period of people's lives. And some people just don't grow out of their highschool mentality.

>>23523 HOW??? sunovagun, I thought I was doing good catching my normal pitfalls. >>23586 yeaaaaaaah, that was me. I wouldn't say arguing though, half the time was me smashing my head against a wall trying to get my brain to work right. I'm still gonna be developing the relationship with these two though, even though it's not my personal favorite, it's still generally? considered the top greene ship, so it's going into the bayou stuff and getting some proper brainpower put into it. I do agree on cynthia needing help and more time to be better, however I know my interpretation of her is approached very differently (not a gooner, focuses on her self-esteem issues and scale condition that fucked her over at a critical point in time and pretty much forced her into the terminally online space, scorned, bitter, and absolutely capable of saying some venomous shit, but also the most grounded of the group that keeps the rest from flying off the handlebars with bad plans, hence why they even keep her around)

>>23700 oh, hey. whaddya know I mean, I think Mel and Greene is the top ship, so it suits me. How is the whole Bayou creative endeavor going anyway? I'm gonna assume lack of sleep and classes have stalled it somewhat. And you certainly have a far more charitable view of Cynthia than most do. Particularly the part here she grounds the others. She seems more like a, "Shout fuck you [slur] then let Maria handle it and run" type to me. >>23737 >Lightning McQueen Oh my God, Nova got hit by a car!

>>23586 Personally I don't subscribe to one take for most any character, I feel like there's quite a bit of wiggle room with all the gaps in the game's continuities (and inconsistencies) that you can bridge in with your own headcanons. Even more so with characters as mailable as OCs With how many different depictions and continuity's regarding OCs, I do think it's good to try and preface takes on certain characters, lest you go back and forth for an inordinate amount of time, all while assuming the other is operating on the same takes for characters that you are. And who knows, you may start seeing a character in a different light So regarding Cynthia's hangups, personally I feel that assuming all of Cynthia's problems just stem from "she is depressed and toxic because of unrestricted internet access" is the equivalent of saying "Greene is tired and reclusive because he's depressed". Just like how Greene's mental illness of varying severity was recently given to him in an attempt to explain why he's depressed, I feel that Cynthia should also be given a reason for being a terminally online recluse. Myself and others have proposed the idea that she has a genetic scale condition that likely showed up in her teens -think the dino equivalent of eczema or cystic acne- and as you could assume, said condition would most certainly gnaw at a young girl's confidence, likely causing her to close herself off from others when her flare-ups are especially bad, thusly turning to excessive internet use in order to have some sort of interactions with others while minimizing having to deal with them face-to-face. But like with most everything else regarding fankids, it's all up in the air. >Acting like E1 Olivia I'm not trying to imply Cynthia can't be difficult to deal with, or even toxic at times, but I disagree that it's anywhere near the extent of E1 Liv( not to say it wouldn't get to that point if she keeps going the way she is). If that really was the case, I can't see why her friends would even deal with her, I guarantee even her most charitable of friends could handle someone like that for so long. >>23700 >HOW??? I lurk a lot

>>23826 fair points I had honestly forgotten the scale condition aspect. Been some time since that's been brought up from what I've seen. And rereading my own post just now I realize I didn't exactly answer your question at all. In a word, loneliness. World at her fingertips but can't ever seem to reach out and make a friend. >>23841 kek

>>23905 > forgotten the scale condition aspect Can't exactly blame you, it's relatively new in the grand scheme of things and only a few people ever actually implemented it

>>23754 greene/mel's pairing is pretty much the only thing brough up outside the threads from what i've seen so yeah, its like that. bayou stuff? it sure is going, trying to consolidate information and get more beats fleshed out, but there's even more junk to consider too!!! right now I'm trying to figure out how the parents dynamics work, trying to establish better dynamics between the bayous + how they'd get along together, what's the best way of portraying lur's discomfort / anxiety when put on the spot, the backstory of the moores, how the scotias all play off each-other, the jos new outfits, iris's dynamic with lur, silhouette designs for the delinquents, it goes on and on and ON. the only concrete things I have for now is the backstory for the moores and like, three design silhouettes, everything else is just a scrambled mess. >>23927 yeah, really love that scale condition made, gives her a different avenue to explore her terminally online lifestyle

>>23996 Certainly sounds like it's grinding on. Is the bayou stuff gonna be a comic or something? I think you mentioned what you wanted to do with it before but I've forgotten. I recall you saying you weren't gonna make a game out of it. Wait, was it a book, or short story, or something, with some illustrations? I think you said it was something like that.

>>24037 it's a collection of information that i will use to draw stuff, maybe animate, but no cohesive comic or whathaveyou

>>24067 Well good luck to you. Whatever you end up doodling I'll probably enjoy. And good sleep to you as well,

>>22633 >>23226 I have an 8 hour business meeting with my bed, gonna finish up and post the rest tomorrow

>>24142 goodnight

>>22406 >any Stella drawing suggestions for tomorrow? Draw her waving a 4chan or 8chan flag like this (still, not animated)

would you rather have a mia gf like ben did or a mia gf like the legboy-whatshisname had?

>>23996 >scale condition I don't get this thread's obsession to turn every bad character into a secretly tortured soul

>>25380 I don't think a girl having bad skim makes her a tortured soul

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